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Nordling here.

When I review a film, I like to sleep on it before I write it up.  Sometimes that's not possible, such as a press screening the night before a film opens.  But I think I'm a better reviewer once I've had a sleep on a movie - I find that it's easier for me to look at a film with that distance, and if in the morning I still like what I saw then it gets a positive review. Reviews of films right after seeing them tend to skew hyperbolic because I'm so eager to put down my thoughts and get them out.  So you should take that into consideration when reading this.  I'm under no time pressure to write this review, although I like to have my reviews out by opening day.  But I really felt the need to share this one, because I'm just that excited over CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER, which shoots to the upper levels of superhero films.  In fact, I'll probably make bold statements throughout this review, like "It equals THE INCREDIBLES and SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE in sheer filmic joy" or "CAPTAIN AMERICA is the RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK of superhero movies."  Again, take them how you like.  I'm confident I'll feel the same way in the morning.

Does it have flaws?  Yes, but they're minor ones, and most of them come from the fact that I could have stayed in that world a hell of a lot longer, and two hours simply wasn't enough.  Joe Johnston has made a truly retro film, straight out of the Saturday matinees, and what's so wonderful about it is that it completely embraces its nature.  CAPTAIN AMERICA means what it says - there's hardly any snark in the thing, and the humor is just as genuine and funny without it.

Chris Evans, like Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark, completely embodies Steve Rogers, and he gets that character intrinsically right.  So much so that I can't imagine anyone ever playing this role - Evans is Captain America, for all intents and purposes.  Steve Rogers isn't just an Everyman; he's naive in many ways - I'm curious to know what he thought "fondue" was before Howard Stark explains it to him - and Evans embraces Rogers' nerdy nature.  When Evans plays Steve Rogers as the skinny, scrawny man in the beginning of the film, he nails that aspect of Rogers - helpless, but so wanting to do good and help people.  But if Evans didn't successfully show us the character's humble beginnings, his transformation wouldn't seem so genuine, but Evans utterly gets the character.  When he plays Steve Rogers before the Super-Soldier serum and the VitaRays, he quietly commands the screen, even though his physical presence is slight.  Kudos, also, to the special effects team that worked that particular bit of film magic - I stopped wondering how they did it about 30 seconds after seeing the effect and simply bought it.

Hugo Weaving is terrific as Johann Schmidt/the Red Skull, confident, wicked, and so gleefully evil even the Nazis want to hold him back.  Toby Jones is good as Dr. Zola, Schmidt's toadie/scientist, and HYDRA beats COBRA all to hell, with their ray guns that decimate soldiers and their technology.  The supporting cast is excellent as well, with Tommy Lee Jones on fire in this, adding much of the humor and just being as much of a badass as he was in THE FUGITIVE.  Dominic Cooper delivers a funny performance as Howard Stark, and you can believe that he's Tony's dad.  I loved Neal McDonough as "Dum Dum" Dugan, who can toss back a beer and then let blast with his shotgun.  Stanley Tucci's Dr. Erskine is the film's conscience and very much the voice of Steve Rogers' inner ideals, and he turns in a heartfelt, moving performance.  Sebastian Stan as Bucky Barnes is a departure from the comics - he's no plucky lad looking for adventure but a tough soldier who does the dirty work that Captain America can't do.  Unfortunately this is one of those places in the film that I wanted to spend more time on - Bucky's in and out of the picture much too quickly for my liking.  It will be interesting to see if this franchise follows Ed Brubaker's sotrylines, because I definitely would like to see more of Bucky in later films.

Hayley Atwell, as Peggy Carter, gives a truly wonderful performance, one rarely seen in these kinds of movies.  She's no damsel in distress and she's never once rescued by Captain America in the film, except when he pushes her out of the way of a moving car, and even then she handles herself well.  In fact, she pulls his rear out of the fire a couple of times.  The relationship between Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter is a truly believable romance.  She learns to appreciate Rogers before he becomes the great soldier, and their relationship builds in a very charming, moving way.  It's, in a word, sweet.  I think CAPTAIN AMERICA isn't just for the guys - women will enjoy that Peggy is a well-rounded, heroic character and there's nothing forced in her and Rogers' romance.

The action of CAPTAIN AMERICA is decidedly old school - stuntmen, explosions, and although there's quite a bit of CGI it's mostly there to render backgrounds.  There are action montages - the film spans several years - and everything is coherent and well-shot.  The 3D is largely ineffectual - see it in 2D if possible.  Other than a few sparks shooting at the screen and Cap's shield bouncing around, I found it to be mostly a distraction, and it muddles up the action.  I was already engrossed in the story and didn't need the 3D confusing things.

The film is earnest in a way that very few films are now, and Joe Johnston knows how to put earnest on screen without seeming cloying or corny.  THE ROCKETEER and OCTOBER SKY proved that, but with CAPTAIN AMERICA Johnston makes earnest seem cool.  There is no place for cynicism in this world, and the more jaded and cynical audience members might peg this film as propaganda.  I do not agree in any way shape or form - CAPTAIN AMERICA hearkens back to a truly simpler time, where the moral lines of good and evil were much easier to see, and one of the best things about the film is that in parts it genuinely feels like a film from that era.  The filmic roots of CAPTAIN AMERICA run deep, and Johnston draws on all those great Saturday matinees, and even his experiences with THE ROCKETEER and RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (he was that film's art director, and there are several callbacks to that film in CAPTAIN AMERICA which were quite fun to see).  In fact, the ending scene, which we all knew was coming because we know where Captain America ends up, almost feels like it's a different film altogether and I could have actually done without it.

Again, you can take this any way you like.  I didn't sleep on the movie, and I felt compelled to write about it upon coming out of the theater.  CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER is one of the best films of the summer, and of the year.  It's going to be cherished for many years to come, and I have no hesitation putting it with the other great films of the genre.  Marvel Studios has built up THE AVENGERS, film by film, and have saved the best for last - CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER is what going to the movies is all about.

Nordling, out.

P.S.  I didn't get THE AVENGERS teaser at the end of my press screening.  You should have heard the audience groan out in frustration over that piece of business.  Those so-and-sos in Austin got it, though, and when I see this again, and I will, I better get it or there'll be hell to pay.

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  • July 20, 2011, 11:56 p.m. CST


    by MattDomville

    Must be worth a look, then. My thoughts on Chris Evans as Cap:

  • July 20, 2011, 11:57 p.m. CST

    suitable for kids?

    by slappy jones

    I got a seven year who is fucking desperate to see it.

  • July 20, 2011, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Can't wait!

    by TheMark

    Still can't wait!

  • July 21, 2011, midnight CST

    Can't wait for midnight!

    by VanGoghX

    Mostly positive reviews thus far, sounds like it should be pretty good. Keep it up, Marvel!

  • July 21, 2011, 12:04 a.m. CST

    My buddy is Skeptical

    by LuminousBeing

    Because he hates America. USA! USA! USA! Go Cap!

  • July 21, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST

    This is getting great reviews.

    by fanboy71

    I can't wait to see it. It sounds like they did it right.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Yeah I also liked that it was very earnest

    by jules windex

    Evans sold the do-gooder stuff very well. We had the same groaning at my screening when there was no Avengers trailer.

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  • July 21, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST

    and what's so wrong with a damsell in distress?

    by chien_sale

    lefties would want you to imagine that's a concept invented by movie and cartoons. because sure no man has ever saved a woman. no man has ever acted like a gentleman and courtuous. I knew those Hollywood morons would do that with Cap's love interest. They can't have a woman that acts like a 1940s gal, the way they used to be, you know, ladies.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:20 a.m. CST

    What ISNT Nordling knocked out about?

    by Rex Carsalot

  • July 21, 2011, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Period film vs modern Cap...

    by ZaphodBeeblerox

    The Steve Rogers character works best in that more black and white morality realm of WWII when you were either Allies or Axis. He was a representation of when America was an example of 'Might For Right', instead of what has morphed into 'Might Makes Right' mindset over the years. It's that difference between stepping in and stopping a bully from beating someone up much smaller then them and just beating up someone that you think might be a bully.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:23 a.m. CST


    by mcclaneriggs

    Yes, we get it. You've cherry picked the negative reviews that reinforce your own review of a movie you haven't seen. Nording says he liked it. Some reviewers didn't. That's it. That's how all these things go. You've already made up your mind. So move on to something else that interests you. There's plenty of movies out there for everyone. Apparently you're tired of Super Hero flicks. Point taken. Now shut up.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:25 a.m. CST

    All I can do is base my decision to go on

    by brobdingnag

    what I've seen of it in trailers so far and I haven't seen anything that makes me think this will be anything but good. I'll actually be in Austin over the weekend, which Drafthouse should I go to?

  • July 21, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    The just don`t get it

    by musically_endowed

    It looks like the negative reviewers were expecting for Evans to turn Cap into Ironman in red white and blue.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Not to be this guy, but it's *Neal* McDonough.

    by Lenny Nero

    Great review, though, and it gets me more and more pumped for a film from a director I greatly admire.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:30 a.m. CST


    by Lenny Nero

  • July 21, 2011, 12:30 a.m. CST


    by bob1138

    There isn't a comic book movie rut, just a DC rut. I like the Nolan Batman flicks but they are their own thing, great dramatic works about a rich vigilante who wears a bat costume. The Marvel movies are actual "Comic Book Movies", Caps looking like another good one. Make Mine Marvel! ( but would like to see some great DCU movies too)

  • July 21, 2011, 12:36 a.m. CST

    So, viggeo

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    In one breath, you say that you'll go into this film "with an open mind" because of JP3 (perhaps that was intended as sarcasm?), but in the next breath (and seemingly endless posts), you bring up negative review after negative review to reinforce your initial point that the movie is going to suck. So, which is it? Open mind or case closed?

  • July 21, 2011, 12:39 a.m. CST

    And, BTW,

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    A 58% on RT means that there are still more critics out there (so far) who like it than there are those who don't. Why don't you post some of the positive reviews for the sake of, I don't know, some kind of objectivity (which you claim to have).

  • July 21, 2011, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Oops...sorry, beat me to it.

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    But there are much more flattering reviews on RT, as well.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:40 a.m. CST

    The question I believe Nordling, or my own intuition?

    by Jerry Piper

  • July 21, 2011, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Moriarty liked it.

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    [Marvel] saved one of their very best movies for last, and I suspect Captain America: The First Avenger will send audiences out of the theater rabid to see what's next.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST

    And I trust Moriarty a hell of a lot more than Emanuel Levy.

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi


  • July 21, 2011, 12:44 a.m. CST

    really, viggeo. Karina Longworth?

    by bob1138

    So a film critic from the Village Voice does't like Captain America! That's it burn the prints, delete the hard drives it ain't worth even unspooling this vile film!

  • July 21, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Also, I seem to remember at the time,

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    Critics, overall, were not all that impressed by Star Wars or Raiders. Earnest, impassioned and wide-eyedly optimistic don't generally play well with critics. So, I'm taking some of these reviews with a grain of salt.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Actually, you didn't post all of the "fresh" remarks...

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    Only the ones that were qualified by criticism. I still haven't seen you post any of the raves, of which there are several.

  • homage? anyway I will be watching this on friday and I will also be listening to the reaction to the amazing spider-man teaser.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:53 a.m. CST

    James Rocchi - MSN movies

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    Captain America is not high art, but it is so unabashedly fun -- and such well-made fun -- that it is hard to not like and admire it for so steadfastly being what it is.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:54 a.m. CST

    Devin Faraci - Badass Digest

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    A rollicking old-fashioned adventure story - two fisted, over the top and filled with retro scifi flair.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Is the last 10 minutes really just a commercial for the Avengers?

    by double_l88

    That is ridiculous if they do.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Andrew O'Hehir -

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    Captain America is exactly what the third week of July needed: a curiously fun, surprisingly imaginative and unashamedly old-fashioned yarn of skulduggery and adventure.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Not saying CA will be in league w/ SW or Raiders...

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    Just that those particular types of movies don't ever do well with critics. Seems a shame that I'm having to explain what seemed to be a perfectly obvious statement to begin with. Gotcha.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST

    I just saw it in San Diego

    by Jim McArthur

    It's good. I can see what Nordling is saying, though I'm not quite as in love with it as he seems to be. Origin stories suck. Boooring. Batman begins is about as good as it gets in that dept. Joe Johnson is not Christopher Nolen. Johnson does an origin story by the numbers. That all said, Cap has a lot going for it. Johnson, first and foremost - and previous statements not withstanding - is an asset to the film. His hand is evident. He's like an NBA official - you can really feel his effect on the game. There's a tone. A real, honest to goodness tone. You can taste WW2. And the action/camera work is stylized and fun. OK, but one thing... Hydra comes off lame. The double handed salute is retarded. Johnson neuters the Nazi connection choosing to focus solely on Hydra. Dumb. I'm no Cap purist - so I don't care what the comics say... Cap killing Nazis would have been better. Period. Evans is the man. The main chick (Peggy I think - I'm bad with names... her neck is kinda short)... she's good. Corny but fun. Nice enough to look at and feisty. Tommy Lee Jones is pretty funny. Stark is great. And you know what? It ends well. The whole last 20 minutes is pretty fun. Dude hitting that propeller was awesome. Oh and Cap should have at least TRIED to land the plane... All in all, I'd say it's as good as Iron Man. I still like X2 (and maybe First Class) better. TDK rules all.

  • "oooooooooh witchy!" yeah even though he was the main villain he actually had to say that; goes to show why Renny Harlin hasn't had a hit since die hard 2 and had to do a freakin John Cena movie. Anyway good for him, and fellow Covenant co-star Taylor Kitsch kicked ass on Friday Night Lights and is also in John Carter.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Viggeo, critics loved Thor and X-Men...


    both of which you found "disappointing." So the critics were wrong about those movies... but right about Captain America? Kindly let the door CHOP you in the ass on the way out.

  • Vincent Canby of the NY Times wrote that. About Empire Strikes Back. So fuck critics, the lot of them. Bring on Cap. I'll think for myself, thanks.

  • But first... Captain America does look like a fun throwback movie so I will check it out for sure after passing on Green Lantern/Thor/Pirates/Transformers etc...sorry but I gotta be frugal with my movie money nowadays Hollywood due to this scary economic wasteland in the US.So far I only saw Super 8 and X-Men First Class in theaters and didn't mind parting with my cash for those flicks. BTW... The Sarah Palin doc thread here on AICN was brimming with discussions I never thought I would see on AICN. I like shooting the shit about movies,sports etc as the next guy... but I was glad to see so many AICN talkbackers aware and concerned of what has been and is currently going on in the US right now. Maybe Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich can don Captain America's shield in 2012 and try to end the profit "wars" er...occupations,bring jobs back to the US and destroy the corrupt private bank known as the Federal Reserve.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST


    by Meadowe

  • July 21, 2011, 1:05 a.m. CST

    seen it, loved it.

    by Stifler's Mom

    I had the same reaction as Nordling. As good or nearly as good as Iron Man 1, and it's infinitely better than Thor.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:06 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed it

    by sharpie

    *shrug* <p> I thought it was really good, I honestly cant really think of anything that was done wrong. There was a bit of bland in regards to the Howling Commandos, and that, being such as easy fix (like, oh, I dont know, give them fucking names in the movie, I think I heard "Duggan" in the background at one point, but none of the others are actually named, and neither is the team) is irritating. But overall it was really fun, it all really worked, Evans was great, Weaving was fantastic as usual. Yeah

  • July 21, 2011, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Hey, if you're gonna quote Emanuel Levy,

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    I'll quote Devin Faraci. I think we can both agree that neither one is worth a shit as critics, but AICN head-honcho opinions non-withstanding, my point was that there are divergent opinions on this one.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:08 a.m. CST

    Also, Slappy Jones

    by sharpie

    There were 2 (very vocal, but in some instances hilarious) kids behind me in the theater, they loved it, but there were a few moments shown in the Hydra camps and general things with Red Skull that they were a bit scared, but I'd say they were probably about 5, a 7 year old could handle it (and probably love it) no problem

  • July 21, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    viggeo_morgenstein, did you see Thor yet? The movie you said would fail

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    which is now getting close to half a billion. You said you would see it just so you could give it a bad review (which is kinda mental). Never saw that review. Really looking forward to seeing Captain America!

  • July 21, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    I have a yellow pen in front of me

    by Mockingbuddha

    but it is out of ink. Viggo Morgenstassen has Rotten Tomatoes open in another window. Cool. My other window is The Onion. I am trying to decide if I should wait to see this movie when my kids get home from grammas on monday or go see it friday and then again on monday with the kids. It's not an issue of desire, it's an issue of money. Fuck the haters Hollywood, keep making those superhero movies. Also, I just read the Umbrella Academy comic. It is foking awesome. This time traveler dude that is like seventy, but trapped in a little ten year old boy's body is just going around slaughtering these time-cop soldiers by making lots of micro jumps into the future that makes him, (from our regular time perspective) appear to move with incredible speed and agility. The cops get all confused because they are at the crime scene and they can tell someone's just been blasting away with an AK47, hundreds of rounds, but they can't find a single stray bullet that didn't kill a time-cop. Best thing I've read in a while... hollywood?

  • July 21, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    So donnyunitas' NY Times quote was pure fabrication.

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    Maybe I should google it to check, but it sounded pretty legit. And BTW, I'm old enough to remember the critical reactions at the time. While the critics were kind to people like Coppola and Scorsese, they tended to shit on directors like Lucas and Spielberg.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:16 a.m. CST


    by Meadowe

  • July 21, 2011, 1:19 a.m. CST

    viggeo_morgenstein, did you see Thor yet? The movie you said would fail

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    which is now getting close to half a billion. You said you would see it just so you could give it a bad review (which is fucking mental). Never saw that review. Great review Nordling, I wanna see this movie nowwww! (have to wait til mid august in this shitty place tho)

  • July 21, 2011, 1:20 a.m. CST


    by Meadowe

    i bet nobody knows that I have multiple screen names and try to insult people with them at the same time to make it look like I can actually relate to other human beings!

  • July 21, 2011, 1:20 a.m. CST

    Yes, it's really, really good.


    The only negative is the crappy CGI used to make Chris Evans skinny. Other than that and the fact that it takes a while to get going, I loved it.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Fart Noise

    by David Hinson

    I'm sure it will be good. But maybe you can fight the pre-pubescent need to make everything the greatest of all time the moment you experience it. Let it sit in the noodle for awhile and then using your powers of objectivity formulate a responsible opinion. Now if you will excuse me I'm getting back to OSX Lion. It really is the greatest operating system of all time.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Just for viggeo

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    “Captain America" is exactly what the third week of July needed: a curiously fun, surprisingly imaginative and unashamedly old-fashioned yarn of skulduggery and adventure” Captain America is not high art, but it is so unabashedly fun -- and such well-made fun -- that it is hard to not like and admire it for so steadfastly being what it is. Captain America succeeds grandly where the others failed. Some positive review nitpicking, as rediculous as what you do. I am certainly not defending the movie, but if you were fair based on only 24 reviews on RT the response is mixed certainly not a consensus of negative and from the reviews I have read it seems like some people really buy in to the nostalgia, the "pulp" aspects of it, whilst others don't. To be honest with Joe "Mediocre" Johnston at the helm I didn't have high hopes, but will check it out.

  • I know I will enjoy them, no matter what critics or super genre haters say. Even Incredible Hulk, which by many is deemed a failure and Marvel Studio's worst, I find very re-watchable! Marvel fanboyism I guess :) but I really do enjoy them.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:33 a.m. CST

    viggeo, 11!

    by Mattman

    Holy fuck, I'm famous.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:37 a.m. CST


    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Your word that you would give it a bad review even before you'd seen it. You stood by that. Surprise! Why so much hate? What do you like? Favorite movie?

  • July 21, 2011, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Viggeo... that's coming in the sequel

    by Mattman

    The first one is pretty much a huge set up for that. I see you're one of the 11 who bought it. I'm surprised you caught the undertones, I worried it was too subtle.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Viggeo, so where's this Thor review of yours?

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Captain America soon, Avengers next year, Thor 2 in 2013! You will be busy writing bad reviews and I will be busy enjoying great movies.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Bottom Line: Does Cap smash Nazi's faces in with his mighty shield?

    by Onin Solstice

  • July 21, 2011, 1:54 a.m. CST

    How surprising AICN endorse C.A. after all the set visits & freebees.

    by Arkhaminmate001

  • July 21, 2011, 1:54 a.m. CST


    by Mattman

    Prepare the lotion! You might want to buy in bulk from Costco.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:56 a.m. CST

    I gave Harry an advance copy... and you know what?


    He kinda loved it.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Karina Longworth...

    by jzarbaugh the most closed-minded, pretentious "critic" I have ever come across. She will not give a film a positive review unless it tackles the topics of diversity and tolerance. It would almost be comical if it wasn't so sad. The only film I recognize among her positive reviews this summer is "Midnight In Paris". Ms. Longworth needs to stick to reviewing Art House films. They are obviously the only genre she enjoys. Sorry, Viggeo- you can't be a true movie critic if you don't enjoy a variety of movies and are unable to judge a film on it's merits in spite of it's genre.

  • July 21, 2011, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Viggeo, thanks for that!

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Fair enough! :)

  • July 21, 2011, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Just got back. Personally I found it all a bit dull

    by Stegman84

    To keep this non spoilery, I'll just say that it's neither as bad as it could have been, or as good as it should have been. Everything looks the part, the era 'feels' right, it just doesn't have much life to it, much excitement. The action is there, the character is there, but none of it ever really feels like it truly connects, it all just feels a bit hollow and soulless. At least it did to me. The people who desperately want to love this probably will, because it doesn't do anything too wrong, too alienating or out of place along the way. While the people who want to hate it also probably will, because it doesn't deliver anything special, anything surprising, or anything truly exciting along the way either. It is just kind of there, largely inoffensive and somewhat unspectacular. Those that go in with an open mind will likely either have a minorly enjoyable, if rather forgettable, experience, or else they'll just be a bit underwhelmed by it all. Me, I was sadly in the latter group, and I'd have to lay most of the blame for that squarely at Joe Johnston. The man can deliver a nice shot and get all the details right, but he doesn't seem to be able to deliver true atmosphere, pace or excitement worth a damn, and that is what ultimately sinks this film below what it could have been. For me at least. I look back as Jurassic Park 3, The Wolf Man, Hildago, and now Captain America, and I see the films that could have been, and they are so much more than the rather hollow beasts that Johnston ultimately delivered. Hell, even his best film, The Rocketeer, isn't as good as it should have been. The more I think about it, the more disappointed I am. But again, it's not a bad film, it's just not a particularly good least in my opinion. But I'm sure fans will make up their own minds, just as they should. Just...don't get your hopes up too high, okay?

  • July 21, 2011, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Rubber, huh?

    by jzarbaugh

    I'm actually quite surprised. Of course, that is definitely an independent film, so it kind of fits her pattern. I haven't seen the movie, but I would really like to. It doesn't happen to tackle the topic of diversity, does it? I am pretty sure the main character is black...

  • July 21, 2011, 2:30 a.m. CST

    RE: viggeo_morgenstein

    by thecheesegrommit

    WOW! I can't imagine knowing this guy personally, he's grating right? Or is it just me? It's hard to tell through "Texting" "posting" the tone or inflection so I'm hesitant to say this but is he a Ri-tard? I mean no offense if that is the case but I do get the impression there is some sort of addle brained situation. The ramblings of lesser intelligence. Remember the kid in your neighborhood back when we were growing up who ate dirt and we'd laugh at him (which was wrong I admit) but this viggeo_morgenstein just seems...I don't know, like that dirt eater I guess. Part of me wants to just comfort his mom and say "you're doing great" and the other part of me wants to punch him square in the face (which is wrong I admit). Captain America does look great however!!!

  • July 21, 2011, 2:43 a.m. CST


    by cripeman

    You have some personal stake in posting all the bad reviews? Have all your money invested in Harry Potter? You trolling for Warner?

  • July 21, 2011, 2:57 a.m. CST

    When will it be on DVD?

    by Atomic_Crusader

    I'll be sure to check it out!

  • July 21, 2011, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Look how popular I am, I'm dominating a TB with negativity!

    by Lone Fox

    Viggeo fail.

  • July 21, 2011, 3:20 a.m. CST

    welcome the viggeo_morgenstein's webpages

    by generasputinhole

    ok, we get it, you hate america. please, don't spoil it for the rest of us who actually want to see it before we bash it.

  • July 21, 2011, 3:33 a.m. CST

    What's with all the spacing in the posts?

    by Greggers

    It's as if the content isn't annoying enough, and you have to make the posts *visually* annoying as well. That's some next-level trolling shit right there. For what it's worth, if it ever feels like it's too much work, you can actually leave the spaces out, and I can pretty much guarantee we'll still think you're an asshole.

  • I was so worked up for this movie. and the AICN's posted reviews have fucked that up. AICN is actually killing my enthusiasm for this movie. Ironically, by posting mindless positive reviews. Fuck's sakes, dudes! Shame on you. I still believe i'll like this movie, but not thanks to AICN. Fuck's sakes!

  • July 21, 2011, 3:46 a.m. CST

    And because of the CRUSHING DISSAPOINTMENT that was First Class

    by AsimovLives

    The american version of that movie must be one terrible job, because the movie i saw here in Portugal, Europe, was one jolly good fun time at the movies.

  • July 21, 2011, 3:51 a.m. CST

    A friend of mine caught an early preview of this...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    And he's into the superhero movies more so than me. He really liked X-Men First Class and highly recommended it to me (and I checked it out and found lots about it I liked) and he also liked Thor. Captain America? He came out of it slightly let down... he felt it wasn't as good as Thor or X-Men. He said it wasn't a bad movie, just a bit so-so. The impression I got was that he didn't want to dislike it. His opinion reminded me of how I felt about The Rocketeer when I first saw that in the theater years ago. (My friend is nearly 20 years younger than me.) With The Rocketeer, I felt like I should have liked it more than what I saw, but in the end, that movie felt spiritless to me.

  • July 21, 2011, 4:01 a.m. CST

    not going to defend myself directly, viggeo

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    My problem with The Rocketeer was that, we have this cool concept for a hero -- in both the way he looks, dresses, and the time period. But it never felt like the script did much with the character, until up to the very end/climax. Yet then the action sequences were just sort of "eh". It just wasn't exciting, despite the *idea* of the character (and the movie's excellent poster art) conveying the feeling of Major Fucking Excitement. The vibe I got from my young friend when he saw Captain America (and he's never seen The Rocketeer) sounded eerily similar. Take this for what you will. No need for personal attacks.

  • July 21, 2011, 4:26 a.m. CST


    by paul lester


  • Go on, prove me right by writing another 30 posts about why everything you do has meaning. It doesn't, just so you know.

  • July 21, 2011, 4:49 a.m. CST

    this film will bomb in the uk

    by chinofjim

    becuase of Harry mania. By the way, how is it that these big Hollywood flicks all have english ladies? Don't you have any decent chicks in US anymore?

  • July 21, 2011, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Not as good as Thor but not as terrible as Green Lantern.

    by elsewhere

    From Rotten Tomatoes. I didn't think Thor was that good and didn't bother with Green Lantern. Not looking good for Cap, but I'll give it a go.

  • July 21, 2011, 5:35 a.m. CST

    The Rocketeer all over again - good clean fun - but not great

    by melonman

    Sometimes fun is enough for a summer popcorn flick I'm just not going to expect anything more than that

  • July 21, 2011, 6:10 a.m. CST


    by Kingasaurus

    Can nearly all over-the-top positive film reviews please dispense with the functional equivalent of the following cliche?: "So-and-so doesn't just play Character X, he IS Character X. He inhabits the character. Going forward, I can't imagine anyone else ever playing him." Sheesh. Enough already. If a guy gives a good performance, please just say it another way, K?

  • Brilliant!

  • July 21, 2011, 6:22 a.m. CST

    Holy shit, Viggeo's drunk!

    by D.Vader


  • July 21, 2011, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to this...

    by ChickenStu

    Green Lantern was shit. X-Men First Class was OK but a but overcooked - Thor was pretty damn good IMO, but I get the feeling that this one will be the superhero movie to beat.

  • July 21, 2011, 7 a.m. CST

    did you want to fuck it?

    by MamboMan

    like Harry?

  • July 21, 2011, 7:46 a.m. CST

    The Variety guy wrote that review ages ago.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Red white and bland! That's gold! I am one clever motherfucker! Hell, I can just skip the screening entirely now that I've come up with that nugget of wit!

  • July 21, 2011, 7:51 a.m. CST

    How come AICN deleted my quotation marks?

    by rev_skarekroe

    What kind of weird-ass filter do they have in place here?

  • July 21, 2011, 8 a.m. CST


    by dengreg31

    I hate to use this word, but I can't think of any other one that applies as well... I'm not around here very much so I don't know if this is going over old facts.. but.. Is Viggeo.. you know.. retarded?

  • July 21, 2011, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Movie critic superhero reviews...

    by BizarroJerry

    I think on some level we're getting to the point where it'll be harder and harder to go by critics' reviews of these movies. Many will dislike them simply because they've grown tired on the constant churning out of superhero flicks these days.

  • July 21, 2011, 8:06 a.m. CST

    blimps are stupid

    by happyanimal

    sometimes they are ok, but in movies they are always dumb. why do people like blimps so much? and everything being beige? i hope captain america doesn't have a blimp. just wait til captain america gets to the year 2012. BOOM! i don't think the viggeo mortensen understands movies at all. that said, this movie is just a dumb crap. probably by viggeo mortensen and xhowser...i've seen weirder things in this city so it wouldn't surprise me. some people will do anything for jurassic park 4...even anal sex. we all know captain america fought nazis, viggeo mortensnen...who else is there tho? especially then. . we also know that one captain america fought the japanese empire and the italians. and soviets too. he's got a lot of catching up to do now. how do u like school, vigeo mortenson? oh, i'm sorry.... maybe one has just eaten a big sandwich of dumbshit.

  • July 21, 2011, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Wasn't Jon Favreau Dum Dum Dugan in Iron Man?


    Seriously? Way to keep up with continuity MARVEL! (I'm not really upset... but lets pretend okay.)

  • July 21, 2011, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Obese - did you actually WATCH Iron Man? He plays Happy.

    by impossibledreamers

  • July 21, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Viggo, that last post was slipping in The Miz territory...

    by impossibledreamers

    Because I'm the Viggo... and I am... AW-W-W-W-W-WESOME!!

  • July 21, 2011, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Sounds like Joe Johnston should have done STARWARS 1,2,3

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    Just saying.

  • July 21, 2011, 8:29 a.m. CST

    On the critics topic, I remember reading a critic walked out of a movie...

    by impossibledreamers

    when I lived in Louisville. He said it was wretched and not worth watching. He had walked out of the originial Terminator. Now, like it or not - as a critic - if you leave a movie halfway in my book, you don't deserve a job.

  • July 21, 2011, 8:33 a.m. CST


    by ZOMBRE

    That poster is hideous. He can sure trace a photo though.

  • July 21, 2011, 8:59 a.m. CST

    eat a dick, viggeo

    by deelzbub

    take your trolling somewhere else today

  • July 21, 2011, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Viggo. For the record. That last one had to be a joke

    by Knobules

    It was from Village Voice. They don't even look at a movie unless it is a "period" piece. If ya get my drift. I bet they put a tape recorder in the back of the theater and let it run. Too busy playing hacky sack and hating the penis.

  • July 21, 2011, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Viggeo = Genderbender = Genderblender = Troll.

    by micturatingbenjamin

    Don't feed the trolls.

  • Viggeo/Genderbender--What a fucking waste of oxygen. Go watch a pretentious art film and choke on your own dick as it goes up your own ass and up your throat.

  • You would love this movie right? Or if it was titled. "Jane Austins Capt America" soundtrack by Indigo Girls. Then OH its amazing! A well crafted "period" piece.

  • July 21, 2011, 9:30 a.m. CST


    by johnnyrandom officially AICN's most irritating troll. Well done, sir.

  • July 21, 2011, 9:34 a.m. CST


    I saw an advance screening of CATFA last night with my wife in Scottsdale, AZ. This movie kicked all sorts of ass. The only pre-Avenger's movie that is better than this was the first Iron Man film. The CG and 3D effects were awesome. We walked out 100% satisfied.

  • July 21, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    HOw the fuck can you take Cap America seriously?

    by doom master

    Its understandable that he would be a poster boy for the 40s WW2 era, but he comes off as little more than American Patriotism Bullshit, which is why I dont care for him. Subtle? Apparently not. Cap must sport a 15 inch cock as well, I'm sure.... They should have placed McDonald's and Coca Cola patches on his arms, to boot...

  • July 21, 2011, 9:53 a.m. CST

    A O Scott liked it. Also Ebert.

    by FluffyUnbound

    So I guess not only Marvel geeks will go for it.

  • July 21, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    ledergrant/ Obama/ fascist/socialist

    by Uncle_Al

    So which is he? A fascist or a socialist? He can't be both. Go back to poli-sci 101, bagger. Captain America isn't here to take us back to the Good Ol' Days, which by the way, never existed. Captain America has always been here to keep us honest, to throw our self-declarations right back in our faces and make us ask ourselves is that what we really want to be. He is a national barometer of political thought.

  • July 21, 2011, 9:56 a.m. CST

    If they put a McDonald's patch on his arm...

    by FluffyUnbound

    ...I would fucking buy all the comics. That would be AWESOME.

  • July 21, 2011, 9:57 a.m. CST

    RT top critics score 73%

    by Jason

    Even Ebert liked it...not in 3D of course, but that seems to be the general consensus. Anyway, if you feel like reviews matter (and obviously at least ONE person really seems to think reviews are relevant) then there you go.

  • July 21, 2011, 10 a.m. CST

    i guess even losers need a leader!!

    by detroitred

    why dont you save yourself soap box loser?let YOU tell it,we were in a utopia 4 years ago.Talk about the movie or save that shit for whoever you pay to listen to you!

  • July 21, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Viggeo- Time Magazine...

    by Uncle_Al

    HATED Star Wars (1977). Read the review for yourself.

  • July 21, 2011, 10:08 a.m. CST


    by wrx

    It really does amaze me that there's so much hate for movies like X-men FC and Cap. these movies kicked ass in a way that most action/fantasy/ sci-fi movies just don't do anymore. First class was easily the best of the franchise. All the time I've been reading comics, i thought Magneto was powerful, cool etc., but this movie made me want to join the damn Brotherhood! Seriously i could watch him hunting Nazis for another 3 hours of screen time. Cap was like Indiana Jones meets the Rocketeer, but i wont spoil any of it. I will just say It was very , very satisfying.

  • July 21, 2011, 10:23 a.m. CST

    saw it last night (kinda SPOILERS).

    by brassai2003

    This is PERFECT for kids. there was quite a few in the audiance. Warning though, people DO die in various ways. So it's up to the parent. this was a solid piece of action. If you like the Rocketeer, you're going to fucking LOVE Cap. Johnson hit this one out of the park. My favorite parts were the easter eggs for comic fans EE SPOILERS: At the Worlds Fair watch for the ORIGINAL HUMAN TORCH! He's in a glass case like in the comics. Arnim Zola's intro is framed in a way that looks like his current self in the comics. There's a great shot of Bucky being an ace sniper like Winter Soldier. I intend to shell out for it this weekend as the FUCKS at Marvel didn't attach the post credit sequence.

  • July 21, 2011, 10:26 a.m. CST

    by viggeo_morgenstein

    by brassai2003

    I think you are Dan Didio....

  • July 21, 2011, 10:26 a.m. CST

    viggeo_morgenstein = fucking tool

    by Lamerz

  • July 21, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Thumbs Up uncle_al!

    by Mr. Nix

    Baggers are the most ignorant and irrational segment of our society and they seem to revel in displaying it every chance they get.

  • July 21, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Johnston doesn't do

    by Shaner Jedi

    snarky very well. He makes movies that are sometimes painfully earnest and sincere. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But it's always true to him.

  • July 21, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Been psyched for this but...

    by Darth Macchio

    ...can we go back to the old school code-based method for line spacing on AICN? Just being able to hit <enter> and put millions of fucking blank lines has really gotten out of hand. And no offense, Choppa, your bits are usually funny so at least there's some degree of payoff in having to scroll but others? not so much.

  • For some people maybe. I question if that time in America every really existed, or if it's just the rose-colored lenses through which we view things. That being said, I can still appreciate the aesthetic and I VERY much look forward to seeing this movie!

  • July 21, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Uncle Al: right on!

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

  • July 21, 2011, noon CST

    Capt America vs Ultimate Capt America

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    Even though the Avengers movie seems to be taking an Ultimate approach, I'm glad they're going with the more 616 (traditional) version of Cap. He seems to better embody America's ideals in a fair-minded, likable way as opposed to the right-winged prick in the Ultimate version.

  • July 21, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Wow! Looks like someone loves him some Captain's cock.

    by OnO

    Look at all those negative critic quotes. Nice try. Idiot you live in the age of Transformers 2. Expect Captain America to make enough money for Scrooge McDuck to swim in when he jumps off the yacht he parked on it. I'm sure a few more negative quotes from "you" will stop that from happening. Our hero. Yawn.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST

    bad reviews by critics always remind me of Led Zeppelin...

    by kname2

    back in the day Rolling Stone magazine used to slam Led Zeppelin in critical review after critical review...yet, the band was selling millions of records and was all over the radio...and now they're considered by most to be icons of their genre...and still selling substanial numbers of CD's even though they disbanded in 1980. millions of fans and counting LZ showed that Rolling Stone was dead wrong... critics are just a musician I long ago realized that critics who typically bash a genre are just wankers that never had the ability or daring nature to actually learn to do what they are paid to bad, if you don't like it...don't watch it...the rest of us will probably enjoy it oday and ten years down the road...same goes for Cap and the other hero flicks of recent memory...sure there are aspects to all these geek movies that strayed from the source material but, at least we have some variant of the characters we love...Spider-Man 3 as example in my opinion didn't need Venom and would have been great with Sandman as the lone bad guy...but, then again I have hated the horrid lame Venom from day one in the what? it was still cool to see Spidey fight Sandy...take the good with the bad because it's the only way Hollywood will ever gives us comic's the nature of the beast as sad as it, I'll be there at midnight tonight with my Jack Kirby reproduction triangular Cap shield and popcorn regressing to my inner 10 year old...if the film sucks, so be it...I won't buy it on DVD if it does and I lose $9.50 for a ticket and 2 hours of my what? it's just a movie...but, I've enjoyed Johnston's other cinematic efforts in the past so, I'll give him the benefit of he doubt on this one...I bet it rocks overall...we'll see at midnight

  • July 21, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST

    funny how no AICN writers can write a review without spoilers.

    by DannerV2

    They need to explain scenes and plot points in order to make their "own" points.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:29 p.m. CST


    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    I'm Black, and Nordling's right. He didn't say "Morality in America sure was in order, back then," YOU did. We had racism and genocide back then, just as we have today. However, as a society, we didn't have the stifling political-correctness of modern times that discouraged people from making judgments about others' behavior, didn't waste time debating "what the definition of 'is' is," or worry more about the feelings of our enemies in a time of war than the safety of our nation. We were FAR more focused and united (government, citizen and Hollywood) on defeating the enemy OUTSIDE our walls, rather than wasting energy bickering amongst ourselves and bemoaning every action taken to do so. That's why we were able to win WW2 on two major fronts across the globe in only four years.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Viggo-f*ck you...

    by kname2

    “It was a pleasure to realize, once ‘Captain America: The First Avenger’ got under way, that hey, here is a real movie, not a noisy assembly of incomprehensible special effects…As we plunge ahead into a limitless future of comic-book movies, let this be an inspiration rather than ‘Thor’ or ‘Green Lantern.’” [Roger Ebert,]

  • July 21, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Viggo f*ck you some more...

    by kname2

    “While he can’t quite vanquish our bad memories of ‘The Green Hornet,’ at least Captain America can remind us of the genre’s original, innocent appeal…Style and action are the main parts of this movie, too, and true to what many fans found in those Golden Age comics to begin with — awesome inventions, and wild clashes between pure-in-heart heroes and sadistic villains.” [Stephen Whitty, Newark Star-Ledger]

  • July 21, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Viggo f*ck this...

    by kname2

    “‘Captain America’ is exactly what the third week of July needed: a curiously fun, surprisingly imaginative and unashamedly old-fashioned yarn of skulduggery and adventure…This is a fast-moving, atmospheric action-adventure, with clearly delineated heroes and villains and comic supporting characters, and almost all of it is set between 1942 and 1945, when most of us can agree that historical ambiguity wasn’t much in evidence.” [Andrew O'Hehir,]

  • July 21, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Oh and case you forgot...f*ck you again...

    by kname2

    “‘Captain America: The First Avenger’ is stolidly corny, old-fashioned pulp fun… In his winged helmet and leather-patch uniform, he’s a one-man commando-squad fighting machine who wields his stars-and-stripes shield — made of the toughest metal on earth! — like a battering ram and a lethal boomerang.” [Owen Gleiberman, Entertainment Weekly]

  • July 21, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST

    and yes I spelled Viggo wrong on purpose...

    by kname2

    no sense in giving him too much respect by spelling his ID right...

  • July 21, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST

    theghostwholurks...well said

    by kname2


  • July 21, 2011, 1:45 p.m. CST


    by Ironhelix

    Well fucking spoken sir. I agree wholeheartedly.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Ah poopenstein. Yep, there's one in every TB.

    by DoctorWho?

    The thoughtful, reflective "moralist" blathering on with zero context or historical insight...but plenty of moral relativism.

  • July 21, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST

    African Americans fought in segregated platoon in WW2


    I think Spike Lee Perry made a movie about that.

  • July 21, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Doom Master...NEWS FLASH:

    by DoctorWho?

    This film IS set in the 1940's! So you should have no problem with it right?

  • Fight em evil Nazis, one of which is annoyingly overconfident... saves the girl... not bad for a 7 digit paycheck. Oh yeah. Free food! Yes, this movie will knock them out! Knock them! I tell ya! And I'm telling you this all the way to the bank!

  • July 21, 2011, 3:36 p.m. CST


    by Red_Right_Return

    You don't have excellent cinema taste. You have boring taste. You are exactly the kind of pretentious film geek I ignore when I see movies like this. The more you rail against it, the more I want to see it. At least you liked TDK. I gave you one pass for that. Too bad you completely blew it with your denial of X-men: First Class.

  • July 21, 2011, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Neal McDonough

    by robhouston

    Glad to hear he is good in this - he is too great an actor not to see him more often.

  • July 21, 2011, 7:33 p.m. CST

    poopenstein, we nuked two Japanese cities

    by Continentalop

    After offering them two chances of surrendering. <P> 90-160,000 died in Hiroshima and 60,000–80,000 in Nagasaki. These bombings, of course, happened AFTER the invasion of Okinawa, where the uS had 62,000 casualties (12,000 died), and about 107,000 Japanese soldiers died. On top of that between 40-150,000 civilians died, many of them committing suicide. <P> So yes, the US nuked 150-240,000 Japanese citizens, but compare that to what COULD have happened if the US invaded the Japanese mainland (considering that 147-257,000 Japanese died on Okinawa alone). And on top of that imagine how many more American lives would have been lost, on top of how many more Japanese (and the US had every reason to believe in high casualties, considering how bloody every fight with the Imperial Japanese had been). <P> Operation Downfall predicted that the US would have half-a-million dead, and 5-10 MILLION Japanese fatalities. So what would have been more immoral, dropping the bombs or not dropping the bombs?

  • July 27, 2011, 1:27 a.m. CST


    by redkamel

    It would have been logical to just drop one off the coast or the middle of nowhere on Japan as a warning. It is, after all, a nuke. IMO moral deficit lies in not giving them any warning that they were not entering a fair fight. That we could erase cities with a button. It wasn't mentioned in the Potsdam Declaration.

  • Aug. 1, 2011, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Winter Soldier

    by The Shroud

    Bucky in Winter Soldier mode with that badass sniper shot and then picked up Cap's Shield to assume the role for a second.......