AMC’s 13-episode second season, probably launching around Halloween, will continue to earn "The Walking Dead" its TV-MA:
July 18, 2011, 3:46 a.m. CST
Looks like Walking Dead alright. Hopefully they don't stray too far from the source material next season.
July 18, 2011, 3:56 a.m. CST
by Dick Jones
...and that mistake being renewing my interest in zombie media right when it was beginning to fade. I cannot fucking wait for the new season to begin.
July 18, 2011, 4:06 a.m. CST
Fuck yourself AMC.
July 18, 2011, 4:34 a.m. CST
There's more in the world than the US, you know?. Idiots.
July 18, 2011, 4:37 a.m. CST
you twats. Can't help it if we are awesome.
July 18, 2011, 4:38 a.m. CST
Currently I'm staying in Sweden, but I live in the states and can't fucking see it. Thats some weak BS.
July 18, 2011, 5:16 a.m. CST
by jack Bauer
That's a cracker.. The UK and the US have a pair of useless cunts in charge screwing every person in each country to the ground. We the UK and you the US can hardly be awesome :) Anyway, you lot let baby killers off! :) Seriously, all this streaming copyright crap from a website kind of defeats the whole object of bothering to put it on a world wide website.. Make it world wide or just run it on tv..
July 18, 2011, 5:18 a.m. CST
July 18, 2011, 5:22 a.m. CST
by A G
This website has been posting trailers which cannot be viewed outside of the USA for fucking years now and it never fails to piss me off. Fucking amateurs.
July 18, 2011, 5:31 a.m. CST
Can't see why people would get excited for this.
July 18, 2011, 6 a.m. CST
by Sicuv Uyall
July 18, 2011, 6:02 a.m. CST
1. On another channel or legal website. In that case, AMC is simply honoring advertising agreements. They advertise to their American audience and leave foreign advertising to their affiliates. I can't watch most BBC stuff unless it is through BBC america's website. Or . . . 2. You are watching it illegally. In which case, AMC could care less about being nice to you.
July 18, 2011, 6:10 a.m. CST
rick looks very pissed off and he smashes the zombies heads in with a rock.
July 18, 2011, 6:20 a.m. CST
when ever there is a crisis in the uk. cameron leaves the uk. or heads for the toilets in the commons. he is qutting his trip to africa to head back to take charge of a crisis he which bring down his premiership. the head of the police Sir paul Stephenson resigned yesterday. rebekkah brooks was arrested by appointment? what the hell does that even mean. so her highly anticipated commons committee appearance may not happen. she was due to appear with Rupert Murdoch and his son james. cameron me his former communications chief andy coulson at christmas with rebekka =h brooks. and there was a meeting in march with the murdochs over their defunct bid to take over bskyb. there is something rotten in the state of britain.
July 18, 2011, 6:31 a.m. CST
...but it did disappoint me somewhat. The pilot was amazing, a great adaptation of the comic and actually added to and improved it. Most episodes afterwards were not as good (Robert Kirkman's ep was pretty good, especially where it hewed very close to one of the better bits of his comic), much of what they added or changed from the comic just didn't grab me.
July 18, 2011, 6:48 a.m. CST
I count 3 maybe 4 good episodes last season with the 1st episode being the best. After watching Game of Thrones, it may be hard to go back to mediocre television.
July 18, 2011, 6:58 a.m. CST
Looking forward to the new and longer season of The Walking Dead!
July 18, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST
so to say that only 4 of them were good still speaks well of the show. At any rate, I love it and can't wait for it to come back. Also, having never read the comics, I have no allegiance to the source material, and hope they just come at me with a solid, action-packed story.
July 18, 2011, 7:29 a.m. CST
Not just the black zombie, either.
July 18, 2011, 7:45 a.m. CST
At least its better than it was just a few years ago - when it was the old, crappy 80's movie station. Still, Turner Classic is now more like what AMC used to be - great older movies with a tasteful host that gives insight etc. But with great shows like this and Breaking Bad - they really aren't American MOVIE CLASSICS any more.
July 18, 2011, 7:54 a.m. CST
Every other weekend. It sucks anyway. Can't wait for Walking Dead.....brilliance!
July 18, 2011, 7:55 a.m. CST
If you can't watch it, get on a bit torrent and download it....geez.
July 18, 2011, 8:15 a.m. CST
...that those two smashed weren't Lady Gaga and the cast of Glee.
July 18, 2011, 8:21 a.m. CST
by jack Bauer
Spot on... Many of the sites were saying that Brooks was going to be what they call a blast wall, she's going to take the crap for all and have a pretty penny bunged in the account. With the level or resignations and arrests you would hope all will out but you just know there's going to a few nice little hand shakes in the right places. Mind you, with Cameron tainted we can only hope there's a 'clear out' at Westminster.. Sadly I think the rabbit hole runs too deep...
July 18, 2011, 8:39 a.m. CST
Bring it on.
July 18, 2011, 8:40 a.m. CST
I guess Rick doesn't need a gun, just arm him with a rock and he'll kick legions of zombie ass. Really enjoyed this last season, even with some of the inconsistent writing and logic. There were some really stand-out moments, most of the core leads are very good and overall, it's a good, well produced, take on the genre. I was aware of, but hadn't read the original comics, though I did recently score the first issue (via digital on our tablet) and it's pretty outstanding. I'd be willing to start buying, but I don't want to get ahead of the story.
July 18, 2011, 8:46 a.m. CST
How AMC doesn't get any flack for rating both the Walking Dead and Breaking Bad TV-MA I don't understand. I understand it's up to the network to decide the rating but both shows are R-rated material.
July 18, 2011, 8:57 a.m. CST
I am normally one to jump on the irritation train about 'You Can't Watch That In Canada'... but this I could watch just fine. Also, I get AMC on my TV, so maybe we're in the age of smarter internet that knows what you are subscribed to. Creepy. Anyway. I liked most of last year's terribly forshortened season, but the final two episodes really strained my appreciation. They were dumb and bad. Definitely not enough to write off the series or anything silly like that. Just... going into this season hoping for better, not blindly enthusiastic for more.
July 18, 2011, 9:03 a.m. CST
by Truxton Spangler
to loosen their standards and take advantage of the MA rating, like FX does. With its future assured, I hope that the series' writing can achieve parity with the other elements this season.
truxton spanglers cereal cabal, I think AMC's TV-14 rated shows are just as bad as FX's TV-MA show. Every word is allowed on both networks except the f-word. There is no restriction on violence whatsoever. Partial nudity is allowed on both. I see no difference between the content on both networks, just that FX rightfully labels their shows TV-MA and AMC puts on the TV-14 label.
July 18, 2011, 9:26 a.m. CST
I realize this probably takes place right after Season 1 but Rick's hair is a little too coiffed for having gone through Hell. Also, they're going to have "Walt Syndrome" with his son Carl having aged and probably grown a foot in-between seasons.
July 18, 2011, 9:26 a.m. CST
I've never been fond of direct story adaptations when I've already experienced the source material. I wish I never read the Walking Dead comics because, while I've enjoyed them, they have become very repetitious and I've never really liked the art. I would rather not have spend >$200 on the story. I'd rather have watched six hours of zombie TV show. Now if I watch the show I'm going to be completely bored by the story.
July 18, 2011, 9:43 a.m. CST
Wonder if he found out that Laurie is preggos with Shanes kid yet.
July 18, 2011, 9:44 a.m. CST
Works like a charm. I'm in Australia and only have trouble viewing Hulu stuff.
July 18, 2011, 9:51 a.m. CST
by Tigger Tales
The best parts focused on Merle. The mystery surrounding his disappearance created an exciting atmosphere. Also the suspense of "when is this dickhead going to pop up again?" The goings on at the survivor camp were just okay. Pretty decent character development. The flashbacks are done really well and add a great dynamic to the storytelling and character building. Where the show really went south was the opportunity to use the CDC as a cool story arc--they completely wasted that with the useless doctor and tainted any hope I had for later seasons. I think I will still watch season 2 though, with hopes of getting my yen for zombie fare renewed.
July 18, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST
...this upcoming season in my town. They transformed part of Newnan High School into a FEMA camp that had obviously been overran by Zombies. Got to watch some filming last week from about 100 feet away. The actor who plays Shane, Jon Bernthal, was particularly friendly and came over to chat and sign autographs during filming breaks. Very, very cool to drive by a zombie ravaged FEMA camp every day for a week on the way to work...
July 18, 2011, 10:26 a.m. CST
I know I've said this to WD talkbacks in the past, but I'll say it again. Writers are lazy and disinterested. So much so that the logic holes and sheer idiocy of the world they created just completely kills any suspension of disbelief. Collapse happen maybe 45-60 days prior to the story. Food: how is this a problem? Everyone may have hoarded it, but could not have consumed even a small fraction in that time. Should be tons of food and water almost everywhere. Guns/ammo: same complaint as above. Gas/appropriate vehicles for the task: same complaint as above. And of course there are tons of military hardware and vehicles just sitting around, but yea, let's drive a giant idiotic RV than an armored Humvee. Now to get a bit more granular, especially now that we've all seen shows like Life After People... Roads would be almost immediately blocked by stuff as simple as fallen trees. Happens every day except there would be no DPW to clean them up. Road travel would therefore be slow going at best. Cities and large towns would have burned. One small fire would engulf a city with no FD or emergency services. In a calamity like this, every large group of structures would be toast for the most part. Chemical and nuclear. Fukashima anyone? Large swaths of the country would be nuclear hell. Other areas chemical hell when containment facilities went unpowered and untended. And I could go on. Seriously, WWZ is the only one that does a pretty good job at addressing the obvious in a plausible fashion. At least enough to suspend disbelief. WD is passable for the easily amused or the feeble of mind. Sorry, just calling it like it is.
July 18, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST
I love the show but what adds to it for me is the fact that I live and work in Atlanta and am all around the city. Tons of sites I live near, especially the Cobb Energy Centre that doubled as the CDC, being overrun by zombies is pretty mind-blowing. Just can't seem to catch a break getting cast as an extra! They filmed an incredible scene down the road from my house a few weeks back that was an all out bloodbath and shootout in a commercial/business district. So my guess is the entire season isn't lost in the woods like it appeared to be headed toward. At some point they end up back in Atlanta or in another town that Cumberland will serve as a double. Can't wait to see where they take it!
July 18, 2011, 10:40 a.m. CST
July 18, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST
Do you really sit there and watch this show evaluating how unrealistic the situation is? You do get that this is a show about zombies, right?
July 18, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST
Who are these idiots who keep saying this show stinks? If it does, what could possibly be superior to you drooling stumps? Dr. Who?
July 18, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST
um, lets see. They have no more biological defenses. In REALITY, animals would destroy them more then uninfected humans. Birds would learn quick that they are no threat, and feast upon their flesh. Insects would harvest their bodies. Not to mention the wear and tear of our enviroment. From cold, to extreme heat. You list of "reality" Sadtruth, it PATHETIC, because none of that would be a problem when you think about what a zombie is logically.
July 18, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST
My bro and I went and watched some filming over there. At one point, the actor who plays Shane was running right toward us with a horde of zombies right behind him. Pretty awesome. The "zombies" all waved at us like they were the stars as they climbed onto a bus to leave. Pretty hilarious but, in a way, I guess they are the stars.
July 18, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST
...but not the other stuff. If the zombie epidemic interrupted regular commercial transport for even twenty days there'd be entire areas picked almost clean of food. The foodstuff stockpile in a major metropolitian area is not that great relative to the population. I guess it would depend on the infection rate...but you'd also have huge spoilage issues once the power went. And I thought the primary reason guns weren't being used that often was because gunshots attracted more zombies than they killed. With regard to road closure, if you removed all the vehicle traffic from the roads near my house, it would have a lot longer than 90 days for the roads to become impassable due to downed trees. Some trees would fall, true. But not enough to close off the entire road system, especially if there was no other traffic on the road. Abandoned vehicles would probably be a much more significant problem, and they've showed us abandoned vehicles / lines of traffic as a problem during the show. I guess your complaint about the vehicle choice is plausible, though. Personally I'd be driving an M-1 Abrams.
July 18, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST
Lets say a Tank for instance, since that is what we first see. Go ahead, operate it. And of course, being in a tank, is the best possible mode of transportation for a WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE. Lets see Cramped Hard to Drive Hard to manevour not to mention that no one would have the knowledge to keep up with the "up keep" on a tank. Even a typical military carrier, with a soft top... that would be worse then an RV.
July 18, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST
by Truxton Spangler
True, AMC does allow their shows to go to the same lengths as FX does, but it's the exception rather than the rule, and notably telegraphed when they do by special disclaimers. FX just rolls with the standard warnings, doesn't make a point of it, and their audience expects it. The people at AMC would be the first to admit that they don't play by quite the same standards (and have done so).
July 18, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST
July 18, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST
OK, I guess I invited it... :-p Military vehicle, LIKE A HUMVEE. Dude, read for comprehension will ya? No, a typical civilian would have no idea how to operate a tank or other military specific vehicle, except hummers. Armored hummers are really the only way to go. They are also ubiquitous. Food. The infection rate was so fast that the vast majority of the population was gone in 30 days. Since the attrition rate was clearly astronomical, no way that food and water stocks (canned/bottled) would be anywhere near scarce. Road blockage: I did not say the roads would be impassible, again please read what I actually typed. Slow going. One fallen limb means stop, cut, clear. If it necessitates chainsaws or even winches (which Hummers have BTW), you have the noise problem. Guns/ammo: I clearly recall them FIGHTING over a silly bag o guns. Why? Seriously, WHY? Guns O plenty everywhere. America, F Yea! and all that. And yes, I am complaining about a silly Zombie story, but there is no excuse for lazy and disinterested writing. Once again, for those of you who failed to read my post for comprehension, WWZ did a bang up job so the standard has been set. WD falls horribly short and should not be apologized for. We (you and me) deserve better at this point, dontcha think?
July 18, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST
by Uncle Stan
July 18, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST
July 18, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST
by Uncle Stan
If you held out in, say, a mall for a couple of weeks, zombie muscle tissue would deteriorate to a point in which it could not support the body let alone provide locomotion. A month later, you walk out and the world is yours. Unfortunately, as mentioned, all the nuclear plants would have melted down, and you would have more to worry about from the massive population of rats and cholera than you would from any new zombies.
July 18, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
Why do they need an armored Humvee? Nobodies shooting at them, they don't have to worry about landmines, a humvee doesn't really offer any practical advantage in this situation. RV is shelter/storage and lots of room. And its not like they said hey, let's go steal this RV, it just happens that the RV is the personal vehicle of one of the guys in their group, they have a whole caravan of several other types of vehicles. Road blockage has been shown to be an issue. Maybe not fallen trees, but I don't agree that the show loses believability because they've been driving on roads without fallen trees. And I don't believe the show has addressed food or guns as if there's a shortage of it, so much as its difficult to have to wade through armies of zombies to find and retrieve them. Scavenging weapons and ammo here and there is probably easy enough you're right, and the two times we encounter new groups of people, they do have guns and ammo. But stockpiles of guns and ammo, a lot of those have probably been grabbed up during engagements that happened with the zombies prior to the show and scavengers, and the areas that might still have stockpiles still involves wading through zombies just to even look for that kind of stuff, so when you come across a guy with a bag full of guns and ammo and you might pick a fight to try and grab it.
July 18, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST
are not a real threat unless they sneak up behind you...a brisk walk can get you away from them...fast moving zombies are more of a threat
July 18, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST
I agree that much of the writing became lazy. Great premiere but, man, it went downhill... <br><br> And, yes, there is lazy writing. Sure, it's about zombies...but is it too much to ask that our unbelievable show be grounded in a little reality? If you're going to have me believe in zombies, at least have the humans act realistically to the situation. There would be plenty of canned food and bottled water. Plenty of guns. Those were unnecessary plot points that dragged the show down when other stuff could have been going on. <br><br> A woman in one ep last season says "I miss my vibrator". Not only is this a line OBVIOUSLY written by a clueless man, but it's stupid. It's been a couple of months. There are batteries everywhere on the shelves of abandoned stores. She could be diddling herself crazy 24/7 with her vibrator. Shit, she could be putting an electric toothbrush against her hoo-ha daily, for crissakes. What a stupid line. <br><br> But that's not really the problem with "The Walking Dead". The problem is that the characters are both unbelievable and unlikeable at the same time. If you're a white guy, chances are pretty good you're a racist or a wife beater. And, honestly, even the END OF THE WORLD didn't cause racists to chill out a bit and rethink the race hate? <br><br> Then there's the wife beater who is stubborn and mean and causes his wife and daughter to live in fear until he gets the snot beat out of him. With other redneck men saying "Stay outta that! It's THEIR MARRIAGE". It's obvious the writers have never actually BEEN to Atlanta. Thanks, Hollywood. <br><br> But if you're a minority? Don't worry, you're alive in the "Walking Dead"....but you're a lame stereotype. Gangbangers who love old people (sure), and thugs and wisecracking Asian kids. Um..sure. Oh, and they aren't likeable either.
July 18, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST
July 18, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST
by Norman Colson
All I know is that the show is set in ATLANTA!!! there are rednecks and gangbangers!!! and the occasional asian guy. lol. But i dont care about that, i want to see if they can find some form of civilization. the military cant be all gone. they would have had some bunkers of sorts, like norad and the cdc centers... And fast moving zombies extremely dangerous, 28 days later, resident evil 5, etc... But slow zombies are even more dangerous in greater numbers and your ammo is low...
July 18, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST
July 18, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST
I really hope something happens in Season 2
July 18, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST
by Tigger Tales
season 2 is going to rock!
July 18, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST
The zombies have been shown to possess some strength and, when in numbers, the ability to do some damage. Breaking through doors and tempered plate glass for instance. But they have also encountered hostile human groups, so armor against the very real threat of gun fire, brigands, etc. So yea, an armored Humvee would be perfect. It maintains basic drivability for normal civilian drivers, provides a lot of safety. Further, it is one of the most capable vehicles for getting through less than perfect surroundings and off road. It also is a diesel, allowing for the use of vegetable oil based fuels when actual D2 becomes scarce. An RV is probably the most incapable vehicle to traverse less than perfect roads. At least if they just had a bunch of basic SUVs that would make more sense. But no, not from this show. Yea, the claim that one has to wade through zombies in the quest for food/ammo has been made, but it is just plain dopey based on the world they have created. They drive for miles, pass loads of houses, no zombies. They enter and leave a major city with relative impunity even. So why not just check a house here and there when on a country road? No, we get close to dying of thirst instead. Makes no sense at all. So again, we deserve better. It can and has been done. Excusing or defending it just begets more poor and infantile writing.
July 18, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST
THESE ARE NORMAL PEOPLE IN THIS SITUATION. IT'S VERY EASY TO SIT BACK, AND BE A MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK. PEOPLE MAKE CHOICES BASED ON THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE. THEY ARE GETTING THE FUCK OUT OF DODGE, AND AN RV IS THE NEAREST MASS TRANSPORT VEHICLE, OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE IT. DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO BE LIKE... A HUMVEE IS A BETTER CHOICE, LET'S MOSEY ON OVER TO THE STREETS, AND SEARCH FOR ONE. THEY GOT OUT, AND SET UP CAMP. ALL WAS WELL.
July 18, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST
Taking a peck out of a Zombie would just infect the bird. And Insects don't seem to care. Notice that at the CDC flies were all over the dead corpses but flies don't follow the Zombies around at all.
July 18, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST
I'm surprised that mosquitoes haven't ever been used, at least to my knowledge, in zombie movies to explain the rapid spread of infection around the globe. I kinda like this explanation more than the old if-you-are-bit-you-turn-into-a-zombie explanation that just about every film uses. If a zombie gets hold of your arm, chances are it will stay attached or if it is a pack of zombies, once they get a hold of a live person will pin them down and start tearing them apart. Shit, that would make zombies scarier again then due to the fact that you can't really get near a zombie, because if they can grab onto you you will probably get eaten right there on the spot. This would of course mean that the only people safe would be those who were up north in the cold, either where there aren't really any insects around or during the winter when they are dead or hibernating or whatever it is they do. Also, if the zombies were frozen or slowed down by the cold like in World War Z, the colder and arctic parts of the globe would be the only places for any chance of real survival during a zompocalypse.
July 18, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST
For such a virulent virus, it seems they can splatter themselves with huge amounts of gore and not get one little bit in their eyes or nose or mouth or open cut or other mucous membrane. Makes for lots of smashing zombie heads with rocks, smearing zombie guts for camouflage, and other epically infantile stuff. But now I'm getting really nit-picky, I know. Heaven forbid a halfway creative adult be involved in this.
July 18, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST
I can agree with some of your points, but you just kinda shot yourself in the face by turning your 'issues' with the show into 'I could totally do a better job, because I'm better than these people.' I mean, maybe so. But piss off with that crap.
July 18, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
Now you're making an argument for what you feel people SHOULD do, which is fine. I agree, sure, if they had a perfect understanding of the situation maybe they'd spend their time grabbing up the military vehicles lying around. But what we're shown is characters simply making due with what they have and what's easy. So a character who owned an RV before the zombie-ocolypse continues to drive his RV after it. Is it what YOU would do? Apparently not, but its not lazy writing. And try to remember we aren't seeing these characters after years of trudging through city after city. This group of characters who were coming to the city for refuge, because that's what the government was recommending, and they got together outside the city when it was clear refuge wasn't available in the city. All we're seeing at this point is the little camp the characters have made with each other with their own vehicles and their own supplies. Stealing and scavenging is something that's still relatively new to them, and its only at the end of the season that they start coming to grips with the idea that this zombie-ocolypse is a long-term, perhaps permanent problem, and not something they're just waiting out until society finds a cure and a solution. And we've saw Rick check houses as he made his journey. So we know its something they do do, but the first season dealt largely with them staying close to the city, and to repeat my previous post, the idea of shortages isn't really something the show has dealt with. In fact I don't recall food ever having been brought up as an issue. I don't know where you saw someone near dying of thirst? I don't recall it ever happening, especially since the majority of the season happened right next to a big reservoir. Nor do I recall them driving for miles past country houses while they were starving. They once all got together and took the drive back into the city, but it wasn't because they were starving, and it wasn't some big long journey. They got attacked in the camp they thought was safe, so they went to an area in the city that the characters thought would be secure and protected.
July 18, 2011, 3:57 p.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
I can't remember if this was already covered in the show or if its just in the comic, so I won't spoil it. But if they deal/dealt with the zombie infection the same way the comic does, it will have addressed the points about why getting zombie guts and blood all over you doesn't zombie-fy you.
July 18, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST
Hope it is better than the first. Got bored real quick, same with the Pacific was routing for the Zombies and the Japs. All the characters were cliches to the extreme. Obama gonna get another term bitches
July 18, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST
Maybe they have Purell and Raid in thier blood, with a little anti freeze.
July 18, 2011, 4:53 p.m. CST
Where did I say anything of the sort? I didn't, so not sure if you accidentally read someone else's post and attributed it to me? On their road trip to the lab, they ran out of fuel, food, and water. And like I said, it would be more realistic if they were just driving SUVs and F-250's. The roads would be shite mere weeks after the collapse, so while they may have stuck with their own vehicles at the start, they would quickly have had to switch. Also, the RV just glares due to its clear mechanical unreliability. While a dopey house frau or fatass white guy may not be cognizant enough to reason this through, the red necks and the cops sure were. Palookaville nose cop was with them from the start, so unless we are to reason he is retarded, no way they would have been so totally rag tag. Not with all the free good stuff lying around. Plus, even dummy 'muricans would be jonesing for a nice Escelade and the sudden ability to actually have to use it. Finally, I'm sure there were groups of woefully unprepared folk earlier on. They all died. This group supposedly made it farther than the majority, so that right there is a glaring disconnect. Nope, my observations stand. And now to be repetitive: WWZ did it well, the standard is set, there is no excuse for such sloppy and banal writing. But if you enjoy this kind of thing, god bless you.
July 18, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST
And make characters that are realistic and can empathize with, along with putting them in some interesting situations.
July 18, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST
Carl needs to learn how to shoot a gun.
July 18, 2011, 7:13 p.m. CST
by Queefer Sutherland
Never expected any of that for season 2. Not expecting it to be any better than season 1, either, so I predict a sudden drop in viewership as more people realize this show isn't living up to its source material. Won't be a season 3 unless they make this thing better. Or so I hope.
July 18, 2011, 7:41 p.m. CST
Ron Jeremy as a zombie. That would be scary as hell.
July 18, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST
So, we've got the white-power racist prick who likes to call black people the 'n' word and beat up on them. We've got the white trash wife-beater. We meet the Hispanic 'gang' and they turn out to be basically Saints. PC Zombie show? Fuck AMC.
July 18, 2011, 8 p.m. CST
July 18, 2011, 8:21 p.m. CST
They should have been back by now.
July 18, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST
They should have been back by now
July 18, 2011, 8:30 p.m. CST
I give up. The stupid AICN site won't post my posting. only a random sentence. Carry on. I'll just read.
July 18, 2011, 8:50 p.m. CST
Aside from fantasy violence, nothing about the show is TV-MA. It's just a more-intense-than-network TV-14 show.
July 18, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST
July 18, 2011, 9:54 p.m. CST
I couldn't care less if they drive an RV or Humvee. I just want realistic HUMANS who don't speak in bad cliches, aren't awful stereotypes, and aren't all complete assholes I'd not want to be around...even if they WERE the last people on earth. That's not nitpicky. Sure, I want a cool zombie TV show. But not so much that I want shitty characters and lazy dialogue. That's like saying I should be happy there's a "Star Wars" TV show where every character is Jar Jar Binks.
July 18, 2011, 11:45 p.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
We're getting into particulars of particulars, so I should just abandon this, but to address your points, they were all driving SUVs, they simply had an RV too. Which is a reasonable choice to make, because again it has plenty of space for them to store stuff and can offer shelter if needed. Its totally reasonable for them to keep using it while they got it, but their caravan had four or five other vehicles, all of which were SUVs. Also I feel like you're under the impression they spent the season driving the RV all around the city. The RV didn't go anywhere until the trip to the lab. And they didn't run out of gas on the way to the lab, they drove right up to the lab, and when they escaped the lab they hopped back in their vehicles and drove away. Scavenging is difficult, its reasonable they don't have an endless supply of either, but the show isn't giving us a world where food and gas don't exist or its all gone, only one where its tough to get, especially for a group thats set up camp away from civilization, I think you're making a bigger deal of that then it is. I'm in much more agreement with other posters regarding some of the characters and pacing being weak and cliche. But these points about the RV and whether their food should be well stocked or just OK stocked aren't of the "this is impossible/illogical in the story they've established" variety, but rather of the "its not what I would have done" kind, which is just kind of the equivalent of fan speculation but doesn't make for weighty criticism. I think the basic crux is you're just envisioning a different show, you want the survivors that immediately gave up hope, ran to the nearest military base, GI Joed up and started raiding every home. The first season is about the group that hasn't formulated its plan yet, the government protected refuge they were coming for is overrun, the first season is them hoping to wait it out and slowly coming to terms that the problem is too big for them to be able to do so. I think the choices and challenges established in that scenario have all been well within reason.
July 19, 2011, 2:09 a.m. CST
The first mini season was sucky except for the first episode
July 19, 2011, 2:10 a.m. CST
All kinds of zombie fluids would fly out and if you get some in your mouth or nose or eyes, you are fucked.
July 19, 2011, 2:10 a.m. CST
damn typos and lack of edit feature.
July 19, 2011, 6:27 a.m. CST
i am glad i am not watching this on rte 2..then.
July 19, 2011, 6:32 a.m. CST
I'll remember that when AMC deigns to allow me to watch it "legally". I'll think about watching it for a second or two and then say, "Nah, I was interested in seeing it a few months ago, but you couldn't have cared less about being nice to me **at the time**, so I returned that little "fuck you" favour with one of my own by downloading the whole fucking series illegally **months ago** and this "legal" teaser you're whoring is old hat now. Besides, why would I buy your lousy fucking boxset when you released it with **edited versions of the episodes**? Twats."
July 19, 2011, 8:48 a.m. CST
Shows like this always make me think how cable packages make you buy blocks of networks, even if they include those you'll never watch. (for the record I watch Dead, Madmen and Breaking Bad) Since we've all been slowly boiled like frogs, paying for television when it used to be free, I'd like the option to buy individual channels and in some cases individual shows. I think some channels would actually see more revenue from people who don't subscribe if they could download a particular series for a small fee. I don't need Showtime all year round, but I'd like to see Dexter.
July 19, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST
July 19, 2011, 2:34 p.m. CST
wendy deng and her right hook. all that security for the select committee inquiry and bloke with shave foam pipe attacked old man murdoch. the pie foam wielder is now in custardy. his case will be handled by the clown prosection service. old man murdoch and harry knowles have one thing in common. they both run thier companies and are not involved in them on a day to day basis.
July 19, 2011, 2:39 p.m. CST
but only one of them actually hates 20th century fox. but like murdoch, harry, if studios are nice to harry he will be nice to them.
July 19, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST
murdoch was attacked by a shaving foam pie.
July 19, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST
Do you like anything? Seriously. Asking.
July 19, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST
Seriously, anybody who goes over nitpicks about what would 'really' happen in a zombie apocalypse needs a life, pronto. How anyone can complain about this show is beyond me. It's about the characters and the shit they go through. It's not about food stocks and military vehicles. And zombies go 'urrrgh'. I could care less how they got that way or how they work. The story is about how people lose their humanity when trying to survive.
I agree, Oisin, that it's about the characters and the shit they go through. <br> <br> The problem is that the characters suck. They're assholes and they're not believable. They're lazy stock figures that were tossed in with little thought. There's like ONE well-rounded, believable character. The rest are cliched douchebags. <br> <br> The zombies are far more realistic than the human characters.
July 19, 2011, 10:01 p.m. CST
July 19, 2011, 11:04 p.m. CST
by paul mcghee
must be hard to kill zombies with squishy rocks:) notice the squishy rock at the beginning? index finger on his right hand... love this show by the way!!!!
July 19, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST
by paul mcghee
sorry!! his left hand.....
July 20, 2011, 7:51 a.m. CST
by Norman Colson
Wouldnt a major problem be gas with those things? my Infiniti g35 sucks alot of it and i figure in a post apolocalyptic zombie world gas would be a problem for a thing that sucks more than a 2 dollar hooker on hunts point!
July 20, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST
If they stay true to the comic pacing will actually slow down a little. if they stay true to the comic we may in fact come to a point where we go many episodes without seeing a zombie. This is a story about the survivors not the zombies. The threat in the zombie apocolypse isn't the zombies. Its despair, and your fellow survivors. Much like in the original george Romero movie. That will become a BIG factor this next season. In the comic food and defensible ground become the limiting resources and the driving engines. Oh... And all these characters you like? They're gonna die. When are they gonna die? Soon Compadre!
July 21, 2011, 8:12 a.m. CST
back to old fashioned tv-land. But I expect the wrinkles to be ironed out next season. Too much of a hit for them to skimp.