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Nordling here.
TheOneRing.Net has scored the exclusive first look at Thorin Oakenshield, complete with Orcrist, and he looks suitably badass. I'm very curious as to how Richard Armitage plays Thorin. In the book he's a mighty warrior and noble, but also a bit vainglorious and stubborn, and Bilbo's the Hobbit that sees Thorin for who he is. But I'll say this much - he looks great, and woe to any Orc in the Misty Mountains that sees this guy coming at him:
Click on the picture above for a bigger photo. So far this is turning out terrifically, and I couldn't be more happy.
Nordling, out.
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Im shocked that I very much disliked the first trilogy I admit I knew nothing about the source material. I dont know if that had anything to do with it or not.
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fire the phasers
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I've always been unsure if Glamdring & Orcrist were a pair of blades or if they just happen to have been found together. It looks a lot like Glamdring though so I'm assuming that's Orcrist.
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Scientology by L Ron Hubbard is more fictional than anything Tolkien could have imagined.
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I am GLAD I'm not the only one that thought that.
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This is almost as bad as pretty-boy Kili with the 5 o'clock shadow. FULL BEARDS!! None of the dwarves in the 3 films had beards like these guys.
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Looks like John Travolta. I don't have to worry about The Hobbit sucking because it will.
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July 17, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST
Wouldn't the sword fall out of his hand if somebody hit it?
by Domi'sInnerChild
It doesn't even look like he's gripping it with his right hand.
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It seems to have only half a cross guard--which seems like a poor design. Thorin looks okay, a bit younger than I had pictured him. There is something about some of these dwarves that evokes Klingons, but I think that is the results of the Klingons being modeled on medieval Germanic and Scandinavian tribal lore and culture. The ST universe is based on the ancient world in some respect-the Klingons are the Germanic peoples. The Romulans are the Romans and the Vulcans are the Greeks.
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His beard is too short.
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July 17, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST
NICE, just like all the others. But that backdrop just screams Wal-Mart portrait studio.
by 3D-Man
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July 17, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST
Oh no the bitter self loathing types are bashing LOTR now?
by Andrew Coleman
I guess nothing is safe from these haters of everything. Like if you think everything sucks you're not a nerd, you're a goth vampire wannabe or a self loathing deeply depressed fuck. Seriously why come on here just to be like... "I thought the LOTR was horrible"... Okay then what are you doing here? Why click or look at this? You bitter types are just full of shit.
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Now just let Evangelline Lilly get killed in the Battle of Five Armies and I'll be satisfied.
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Kingon!
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'that's definitely Thorin, son of Thrain son of Thror son of Dain, King under the mountain. Now I'm dying to see the arkenstone and/or Smaug...
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This movie looks as bad as Jackson's other fuck up. Does this guy even read the books?
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CANT FUCKING WAIT
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I must agree with the others, my first impression of the face and eyes was to hear Gowron's voice :)
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I like it !
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That's not Commander Kruge? Sorry, my bad.
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July 17, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST
More Klingon jokes, please! You can never have enough!
by Jonathan Hicks
Wankers.
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wakka wakka! That's all from me.
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is this the same actor that playes gowron in star trek-next generation? The eyes are a dead giveaway. Will this dude be beamed down??
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That is NOT the beard of a proud Dwarf.
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July 17, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST
On a seperate subject...No early reviews for Captain America?
by SydBarretsMyDad
No early screenings? Not a peep? Has that ever been a good omen for a movie?
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We are Klingons!!!
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July 17, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST
THORIN OAKENSHIELD + ORCRIST = TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION
by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION
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July 17, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST
Syd, in order to make money, AICN abides by industry rules and does not rock the boat.
by Jerry Piper
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No dark knight rises teaser news, no news on the post credits cap/Avengers teaser?..only the biggest super hero team up movie...ever! I used to come here to get stuff before everyone else...wthiu?
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But I'm still looking forward to it!
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July 17, 2011, 5:48 p.m. CST
Hey, g00mp...ALL of those other dwarves in the 3 movies add up to 1 dwarf.
by Baked
Actually, these dwarves are really cool looking. Gimli always struck me as kind of a joke, a caricature of dwarves, although he was pretty badass. These reimagined dwarves are dangerous without looking like refugees from an episode of David the Gnome.
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What a warrior!
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They should have cast Lloyd.
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July 17, 2011, 5:54 p.m. CST
This mother fucker should be standing in front of a wall of Marshalls
by Dark Doom
Heavy fucking metal Klingon..Or is that Perry from Slayer?
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Look at the detail in his sword....
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glad that characters dont have that "wanting to chew man sausage" deep look in their eyes
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Been awhile since I read it.
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I think Balin and Dwalin, which AICN missed, look better though.
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FUCK OFF! You start this bullshit in every talkback. Get some new material you soppy twat!
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July 17, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST
Looks great, apart from looking a bit young and the full-size-adult proportions
by kevred
Strong look, lovely details and ornamentation, nice looking sword design. Looks a bit too young - too much like the other dwarves. And, of course, the exact body proportions of a normal full-size human, but as we've seen, that's apparently the easy way out that the filmmakers have taken. Hope these all look terrific (that is, better) on screen. Based on LOTR, it's a good bet.
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That was here several days ago, did you miss it?
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these names are absurd
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At least, it looks like a short beard. Which would be pretty much inexcusable. That's a dwarf's badge of honor. I smell the stink of market-testing in these early designs. Which doesn't seem logical, since this is only the follow-up to one of the most beloved film series of all time.
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It's like Peter Jackson thinks throwing a person in medieval wardrobe and giving them facial hair is equivalent to being a dwarf. Naturally I'm gonna reserve judgement until the films actually come out and I see them in action, but so far what I've seen and heard about this movie isn't hyping it too much for me. Of course, maybe that's a good thing what with the whole concept of over-high expectations. ;)
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July 17, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST
kevred, by my count only five of the thirteen dwarves have long beards in this movie.
by rev_skarekroe
Bombur doesn't even have a beard at all (a mustache and sideburns is not the same thing) and Fili has a week's worth of stubble. I really think Jackson and his writing girls just skimmed these books, honestly.
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Thought about it and Chi McBride in The Frighteners and that black guy who played Hayes in King Kong, just off the top of my head. But ...you weren't actually looking for an actual answer, were you?
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...were also shooting some scenes yesterday according to TheOneRing. Pretty cool if you ask me.
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I grew up reading Tolkien. Of the dwarves we've seen so far, almost all of them are the way I imagined them then and still imagine them. I don't think of dwarves as generic short people with huge beards, so I never imagined Bilbo's companions as 14 Gimli clones. Plus I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere in one of Tolkien's books that the size of a dwarves beard denotes age/authority.
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LOTR was and is awesome, but I'm really jazzed for The Hobbit films.
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to Thorin Ownsyerass
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LOTR is lame. Peter Jackson is a hack. Frodo should have kept the ring, what a dumb-ass!
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was... Roger Delgado!
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Gowron. According to Wikipedia, "Gowron (Klingon - ghawran) first appears in the episode "Reunion" as the main rival of Duras for the succession of the post of Klingon Chancellor K'mpec, who suspects that one of the two had been poisoning him and appoints Captain Jean-Luc Picard as "Arbiter of Succession" to determine who will follow him. Before the arbitration process can be resolved, however, Worf's one-time mate, K'Ehleyr, discovers the evidence that implicates Ja'rod (the father of Duras) in the Romulan attack on the Klingon outpost Khitomer, and to prevent her from disclosing it, Duras murders her. Claiming right of vengeance, Worf challenges Duras to a duel, and kills him, resulting in Gowron's ascension to the Chancellorship." But I'm sure you knew that already.
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getting from there to here
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Sorry to change the subject and all, but when is the DKR trailer gonna be "officially" online??? Unfortunately I have no interest in seeing Harry Potter (haven't seen Part 1 yet) and I really want to see this teaser.
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July 17, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST
So I guess we can gather that they all wear really dark clothes
by MooseMalloy
Damn you Matrix movies!!!
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I'm a huge LOTR fan. I list FOTR as my all time favorite film, but I think this Thorin design is terrible. When I saw the Oín reveal, I thought for sure that was Thorin. Go back and look at Oín. That looks like the leader of a group of badass dwarves. This just looks like a pretty face. My least favorite dwarf design, and considering that he's the lead, I think that's a pretty big FAIL. As a huge fan, I just hope Richard Armitage's acting and the script can overcome this terrible, maybe a bit too strong a word... this disappointing design.
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Peter Jackson, we're tired.
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Driven, stubborn warrior-leaders on crusades of honor and glory to secure themselves and their people a legacy. Both are good with blades. Both are easily annoyed by people with pointy ears. It's not a bad parallel to have in a first impression.
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Overall, the dwarves are a far cry from the fairytale characters Tolkien invented for his children's book. This crowd look like a hardcore Goth band. Thorin looks like a Klingon.
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I thought Elijah Wood was fine, but Pippin and Merry and particularly Sam were pretty awful.
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Speak for yourself, pal.
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Fucking priceless Nerd delusion. Says it all.
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It was actually goblins that Bilbo, Thorin and friends encountered while journeying through the Misty Mountains. Orcs didn't make their first appearance until "Fellowship of the Ring".<br /> <br /> If they use orcs instead of goblins, no harm really. But I hope we get to see goblins. We saw enough orcs in the Rings trilogy to last a lifetime. <br /> <br /> I imagine they'll be making the ring a much more ominous thing than it was in the book. In "The Hobbit" the ring never exhibited any of the corrupting tendencies seen in the trilogy. So much so, was this the case that I speculate that the role of the ring in the trilogy was a redux from its role in the "The Hobbit". "Fellowship" wasn't published until seventeen years after "The Hobbit". It was probably during that time that Tolkien conceived of the full scope of the evil that the ring represented.
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God, Im a nerd
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Rob Zombie must have gotten tired of directing shitty remakes and has decided to get in front of the camera again. Though I can't argue against Klingon and BATTLEFIELD EARTH comparisons. It also seems a bit like Peter Jackson's pirate cameo from the ROTK special edition. Looks badass I guess, but at least from this photo he doesn't have the appearance I expect from a dwarf, let alone the dignified gravitas I expect from Oakenshield.
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Gimli was a great dwarf design...but these just look like Men. perhaps because you can't tell how short they are, but I think it's more the lack of Dwarfish beards.
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All of these images like like they are the same guy with a different "O" face. LOTR was cool and all but way over hyped. It wasnt bad but it wasnt Green Hornet good. Nothing is as good as the Green Hornet and stuff.
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In the "Unfinished Tales," Tolkein states Gimli is 60 at the time of the quest to retake Erebor, too young to go. That makes him 120 at the time of the Quest to destroy the Ring. In the Lord of the Rings Appendices, Thorin's birth year is given as 2746, making him 195 years old at the time of the Quest to retake Erebor. Now Dwarves do have long life spans, but continuity wise, this version of thorin, badass kiligon looking as many have stated, looks far younger than the much younger Gimli. Add to it the fact that Thorin spent over a century in exile, subsisting at the pleasure of others as Gandalf stated, and had already taken part in some viscious campaigns, he should much older, much more haggard than Gimli . That said, he does have that greedy look in hi eyes consistent with Tolkeins descriptions in several books and letters. And the clothes are cool. Very cool. Tolkein is the patron saint of geekdom!
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Come in, over.
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July 17, 2011, 9:15 p.m. CST
Thor + Paul Oakenfeld + Captain America's Shield = Thorin Oakenshield
by MrMysteryGuest
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Over.
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Now, I will be the first to say that these images of the dwarves, save for a few, do not match how I envisioned the dwarves in the Hobbit. Nor do they match Tolkien's vision. Many do lack the long beards and the colorful cloaks and costumes. At the same time, consider what PJ needs to do here. 1. He needs to create real identities for each of the many dwarves based upon appearances. This is hard to do if they are all a variation of say Gimli in the film version of TLOTR. 2. He needs to somehow reconcile the light tone of the Hobbit with the serious tone of the LOTR--this is something Tolkien didn't worry too much about, but is essential for continuity between the these films and his LOTR. Here it seems he is raising the tone of the Hobbit to the level found in the films--thus we get warrior bad ass dwarves rather than fairy tale dwarves. 3. He also has to appease to a certain degree those who put up the money who are no doubt lobbying for a film design that appeals to the widest audience--not just readers and fans of the books. This is why we get the "hot" dwarf and the goofy comic relief dwarf, etc. Moreover, they have to be familiar enough for us to identify with and recognize in terms of human beings rather than an alien race--and again this has to be done visually. This is hard to with 13 dwarves all sporting long beards that mask their facial features.
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At a few places in "the Hobbit" Gandalf takes pains to remind that the dwarves need Bilbo, and furhter reminds Him that they have been basiically refugees for the past hundred years since the coming of the Dragon. These "dwarves" are dressed like kings.
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The scale is a little downsized I think, but take a peek http://tinyurl.com/6zsjrmh
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Of course they look spiffy; the photos were taken at the Sears Portrait Studio. They're dressed to kill! (literally) They are perhaps design shots--I am not sure if they represent the dwarves as they land on Bilbo's door or if they are readying themselves for the Battle of Five Armies. I will reserve criticism of the kind you are referring to, until I see still photos from actual scenes of the movie.
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The poor dwarves have really been scrounging ! The dragon toy does look right, even to the bejeweled chest with the bare patch. They don't shoot in sequence, and these could be shots from the end of the movie. One last nitpick, in about a dozen places Tolkein does state that the dwarves wear their beards as sorts of badges of honor. They may clean up real good, but trimmed so short?
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July 17, 2011, 10:07 p.m. CST
I love how people think they "know" exactly HOW a dwarf should look.
by Cureguy
It is so regoddamndiculous! Gimli, Oin, & Gloin were of the same royal family of dwarves. They look similiar. We have NEVER seen what dwarves from other families and regions of Middle Earth look like! So how can some people think they know exactly what a dwarf SHOULD look like. It's sooo stupid. Yes, they are short, of stocky build, and for the most part barrel-chested. Besides, that their looks can vary greatly. They don't all HAVE to have long beards. You guys are complete and utter douchebags!
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We saw the dwarf lords who received the seven rings of power, and we saw a few oher dwarves during the Council of Elrond. And this dude's beard is TOO SHORT. (Especially when considering, as someone above already pointed out, the length of dwarves' beards is reflective of their age and position.)
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Just commenting on the pictures vs. what Tolkein wrote in the books and the letters that have bee published so far. You're correct cureguy, as Tolkein described, they are short, stocky, barrel chested. Unless I'm really going blind, these "dwarves" are less robust and more gracile. WETA is free to do as why wish, but it is dangerous ground designing with such well written and beloved source material. I just hope PJ goes full on storytelling, and explores bilbo's psychelogical journey. Bilbo's introspection offers some great opportunites to get very creative inthe storytelling. Unfortunately I'm betting that Jackson will give i n to the the temptation to throw in a 20 minute "vermin fest" after Bombour drops himlike the ridiculous chase scene in King Kong. the Hobbit' (book) isn't about the looks, or action. Bilbo's at his best when he has to think his way out of a situation. Its a coming of age tale, not an action adventure. Its a story that as written is very filmable. Some aspects of the Lord of The Rings movies were astounding, the big effect shots, the look of the characters, but other aspects were like Elves at Helm's Deep, and totally omitting the scouring of the shire were IMHO, less good.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMRctX7fZe4&feature=player_embedded
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Thank you very much. You just turned my shitty weekend around!!! My next child will be named underdogthe3rd.
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but hopefully when we actually see Thorin Oakenshield in the film motion and hear him speak, he will come across less like a Klingon. I think it is a bit too early to judge now by just seeing a still image with a generic gray portrait studio backdrop. Also, in this image his skin looks plastic, or wax-figure like. Probably due to the photographer manipulating the image in Photoshop or something. Anyone else notice this?
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Thorin is described as being very haughty, stern, and officious. He has a talent for singing and playing the harp, wears a gold chain, and has a very long beard. His appearance is also characterized by his distinct sky blue hood.
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But it ain't Thorin. :)
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and you say he's never cast a "minority" group? You're a twat McKnight. I'm sure Dwarves would consider themselves a minority! Learn to read a map, fuckhead. Conan
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*drooling over Avengers trailer now*
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And candtuff7 for posting it!
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In before the banhammer/lock/shutdown occurs. Awesome link. Now to wait for Quicktime...
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For some reason, I keep thinking "Klingon" when I see this guy-- I know he's not made up to look Klingon, but something about this...... and it doesn't look Gimli-like to me, then again maybe it's not supposed to.
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July 18, 2011, 1:05 a.m. CST
Who is this p'tahk who dishonors the house of Oakenshield?
by cricketgreen
too young and too klingon but I'm still looking forward to The Hobbit. I do appreciate the idea they are going for of not making 'Gimli clones' as someone said above (see the Council of Elrond in FOTR for that) but Thorin, Kili, and Fili, like a bad marksman keep missing the target.
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John Howe used to paint dwarves (their individual names plus the word dwarves) since they are the design team, and compare. Also, Tolkien himself was an vocal admirer of various illustrators, notably Arthur Rackham and Pauline Baynes. Go take a look how they drew dwarves/dwarfs, goblins, fairies, elves/elfs, dragons, dryads, etc. Rackham did a version of Santa/Father Xmas who looks like a classic wizard.
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I don't think it's a coincidence the the 4 dwarves with the least facial hair are the ones that were cast with heart throbby actors...James Nesbitt, Aiden Turner, Rob Kazinski (before he had to quit), Dean O'Gorman and Richard Armitage aint mingers, are they? don't wanna cover those pretty faces. For me, i have no problem with them all looking different. it will make it easier when they are on screen to tell them apart
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Is what the elves sing to Thorin in The Hobbit. Not much chance of that happening according to this picture... Looks like someone beamed a Klingon down into an episode of Game of Thrones.
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These recent pics all seem a bit too stark and Star Trek-esque to me. I remember the LOTR movies using lots of smoky blue filters and stuff, made it all feel ethereal and mysterious. I agree with the other posters that this image makes Thorin look like a cheap-assed Klingon. I guess it'll all look great on film, but these images are a big turn-off so far. I'm no expert, but then neither are most people looking at these images and pondering if the film will be as cleanly shot
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Come on, really.. "Thorin Oakenshield"? Why not "Spider Frankenclaw" or "Bladen McIronSuit" if we're gonna do this?
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Same here. The resemblance really is uncanny, isn't it?
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Did you forget the photos of Dwalin and Balin posted a couple of days ago?
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O Thorin Thrain's son Oakenshield, may your beard grow ever longer ...
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A skinny dwarf with no beard? What a disgrace. He's probably claustrophobic or some shit too.
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I always imagined The Hobbit as more colourful than these grey pictures that keep popping up. I mean, it's a much more of a children's book than Lord of the Rings. Where's the colour?
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I smell a Dwarven conspiracy!
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This is a prequel of sorts to the LOTR movies which were not particularly colorful. Why should this be any different?
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He's Klingon looking
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It's that armitage is a seriously shit actor. Outside the uk people might be unaware of his work. But we're well acquainted with his poor performances. Here's hoping Jackson can tease some hitherto undiscovered acting talents from the man.
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July 18, 2011, 7:54 a.m. CST
To summarize everyone, and yes the are right. 1) He does
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
look like a Klingon, specifically he does look like Gowron. 2) Dwarves are supposed to be scruffy looking with long beards. How do we know this? As was pointed out besides Gimli we see one of the early shots in Fellowship where the rings are being doled out, and that's what the dwarves look like. All that aside, add to the mix the dwarves appearances in the animated versions of Hobbit and Return of the King, and other versions of dwarves includiing Snow White et al, and this guy does not look like a dwarf, especially a vagabond dwarf whose kinsman have been scatterered since Smaug took over their land.
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This Middle Earth is dark, shitty, and mean.
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http://www.scifitv.com.au/Blog/2009/02/The-Top-20-Star-Trek-Cameos/
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Seriously, that blue hood is everything. If it's not there, that's SERIOUS disrespect of the source material. Shit, first Tom Bombadil, now the fucking blue hood. I'm gonna hate this if there's no blue hood in there.
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http://weallbegintoburn.blogspot.com/2010/04/thorin-oakenshield-hobbit-concepts.html Looks more like I would have imagined. I am not really disappointed in the look they are going for, but it IS a bit "non-dwarfy" overall.
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What Twilight movies are you watching? A more important question might be "WHY are you watching Twilight movies?"
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The goblin cleaver!!!
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He looks far from dwarvish. He looks human. Like a Haradrim in black. His sword looks Elven. His eyes look Khandish. He has no definitive dwarven characteristics. I think this make-up and costume is a fail. They need to do it again or else the dwarves will not be recognizable as dwarves. Not impressed with this one at all!!!
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It's good that the sword looks elven, because it *is* an elven sword :)
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Jeebus Christo Peter Jackson, I can't believe you refused to give a Dwarf King a long beard. I'm disappointed.
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July 18, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST
Looks like David Tennant's Character in Fright Night remake
by frakthetoasters
that's what I say.
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specifically Hebrew. Tolkien modeled dwarfs after Jews... not Jon Stewart Jerry Seinfeld Ashkenazi/Shepardic European Jews but ancient warlike Hebrews of Christian biblical tradition with virtues that liberal 20th century Anglican idealized them with. The Hebrews who genocided the Philistines and and Canaanites, established Israel etc. That's why, particularly in the Hobbit they're shown as a race apart. Noble but flawed. They are greedy, insular, scheming but also valorous, proud, and loyal. There's a lot of nonsense that ppl post about LOR, but this is directly from his correspondence. Tolkien was very sympathetic to the Jews (for example he rebuffed a Nazi publisher in the '30s when few were as bold) but also held the customary stereotypes of that period about Jews, held both by Christians and Jews themselves. As for Thorin... TB nailed it. He looks like a Klingon John Travolta in Battlefield Earth. Thorin should be older... but understanding the realities, Phil Jackson had to cast him younger for the females.
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except this isn't Star Trek, it's LOR. Thorin should have a beard first of all. Not having it, using your Star Trek analogy is like having a Vulcan without the ears or Klingon without the crap on his head. The main concern for the Hobbit is that, while Jackson did so much right with Lord of the Rings, especially in character design, he fucked up dwarfs terribly. They are not comic relief they are the most hardcore badasses in Middle Earth. Gimli came across as a clown. He cant even keep up with Aragorn on the march. Jackson really had no clue in the movies what dwarves are about. Has he "figured it out" between then and now? While the character portraits have looked beautiful they dont feel like Tolkien's dwarfs. As many have said they're more like Klingons or something out of modern sci fi than classical Tolkien.
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You really have to be a fan of the book.. Oh what the hell, this movie will just plain stink! The costume looks horrible, too many liberties were taken with the characters and the plot will lurch forward badly. Here's how it will probably go down: It will basically start out with a few minutes in one place, a few minutes in another, a few more elsewhere, etc. You get the idea, and then all these separate incidents gradually and slowly lead to one single plot. MST3K's Pod People was easier to follow! Maybe a few good things about this: Martin Freeman looks enough like Bilbo Baggins should, but will be hampered by the lousy script and implausible plot. The culture shock he has returning home after too many years might be done fairly well, and the Smaug description reminds me of a cross between Freddie Kruger and Jason Voorhees. This movie could have been so much better set entirely in WW2 with the opening scene of Hitler screaming at his generals, "I could make that bellboy a better leader than any of you !" That is from the mythos of the book. After the opening credits, we should see the process of Bilbo becoming the hero who goes on to fight Smaug, who through most of the movie should be spoken of and referred to, but not seen. This movie will need that sort of impact, the indication of the sort of evil the Nazis represented, but as it is, it sounds like one big car wreck.
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Empty bottles of Grecian Formula for Dwarves found in Thorin's dressing room.
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Pretty shitty. Then they said they would stick to the same aesthetic, hence the wig and goatee. Total crap as far as I am concerned.
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the Lord of the Rings movies. I was alway kind of groaning inside at the look of Gimli, which seemed like a big thick fake looking makeup appliance. But they sure got the orcs and those bigger orcs down nice. Jackson is really good at horror.
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...is confirm the argument that too much freedom of speech/uninformed opinion is damaging to constructive rhetoric in a civilized society. Or to put it more simply: internet forums are full of morons. Good job, guys.
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I just can't bring myself to care about Bored of the Rings spinoffs.
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I mean, I had the impression from reading Tolkien that dwarves never shave their beards. It is like a point of pride to have a long beard. A key element of dwarven custom. I think I can get past this, but it does irk me quite a bit. Also, why did AICN give Balin and Dwalin the short shrift? Orcrist looks pretty awesome.
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I don’t recall seeing that one before.
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thats all I want to know...
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He must have a great personality seeing as she is way better looking than he is. Although, come to think of it, he may have been thin when they first started working together. Seems that he is sort of Oprah-like in his weight fluctuations. I know he wasn’t rich at the time. He does seem like the violent, abusive type though. I’ll give you that.
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And yet you felt compelled to come on to a talkback about a Lord of the Rings spin-off and share that?
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You were expecting it to descend into an episode of A-Team, weren't you? FALSE DAWN! CHOPPED!
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It looks pretty faithful to the book, wings are a bit smallish and scale is small vs hobbit figure compared to book description, but to maintain scale the thing would have to be as big as a cessna compared to that hobbit figure. Otherwise he looks mean enough, bejeweled chest and all. http://tinyurl.com/6zsjrmh
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That's not a bad thing. Gowron was the coolest Klingon of em all.
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The design of the dragon there is kind of cool, though. A more traditional looking dragon head with a shorter, long legged body similar to that of a prehistoric mammal or something. Almost looks like some sort of hellbeast more than a typical dragon. Which wouldn’t be such a bad thing.
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But it could use a little length for sure!
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July 18, 2011, 2:18 p.m. CST
isn' that the Klingon Riker goes to serve on his ship?
by Brannagins Law
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July 18, 2011, 3:34 p.m. CST
At this point, if you are going to have Dwarves that don't look like Dwarves
by Frankie
let black, asian, brown actors portray humans, elves, and dwarves in the Hobbit. When I read Tolkien as a kid, I didn't envision this.
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Y'know, this could be photographs of the post-Smaug/five armys outfits; plenty of armor laying around in the hoard, I'd bet. And I think the Hollywood shock-and-awe machine would throw that out there before they introduced the characters looking like refugees from "Fiddler on the Roof." Fear Not. Yet...
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If you look at the still of Bilbo reading the letter in Bag End with all of the blurry dwarves in the background that was released in Empire magazine a month or so ago it looks like they are wearing the same outfits that they have in these press photos. Presumably Thorin would not have Orcrist at that point, though.
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Glad it wasn't just me. For those in the dark, Roger Degado played the original Master in Doctor Who. He looked like this: http://www.shillpages.com/dw/delgar08.jpg
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Damned 'l' key!!!
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Is it just me or does he look like Odd Bod from Carry on Screaming? OOOOOH Matron!!!!!!
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But digging it all the same.
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July 18, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST
I, son of Jack Sparrow and his favorite Klingon wench do hereby decree...
by Boober
Just Sayin'. What the EFF happened to all the color? Did the great nothing jump out of Neverending Story and stop by Middle Earth or something?
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I AM A TALKBACKER! I AM IMPRESSED, YET I MUST FIND SOMETHING TO NITPICK ABOUT! Seriously, though, I am liking the look of the dwarves. Remember, The Hobbit is more "novel", less "epic". It has facets of kid's book, fairytale, action adventure, and comedy, as well as serious tragedy . A diversity of costumes and moods seems to suit this story. And I trust PJ.
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Looks like a mangy dog with wings. The head reminds me of the monster from the old John Frankeheimer movie, Prophecy.
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July 18, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST
This guy looks like the bas splayer for Klingons near Uranus!
by slave to the one
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Look at the higher res pic... he does have a full beard... it's just trimmed on the cheek for some reason. I guess it's a "style" thing. But shouldn't one of these dwarves have the Gimli style beard? I mean come on.... it's a dwarf requirement, isn't it? I guess Gandalf as enough hair for all of them. I have to admit, I'm getting excited about this. Must.. not... get... hopes... up.
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Looking at this composite picture, http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DwarvesFinal.jpg , I agree that Thorin should've looked more like Oin. Or at least have a full, long beard like Gloin. And I still don't like the Kili and Fili look ... I don't they don't get turned into the "young comic relief duo" like Merry and Pippin. But I'm guessing that'll be inevitable. Some of these guys look badass, though!
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July 19, 2011, 1:46 a.m. CST
Ugh.. Smaug's proportions seem way too 'human'.. Looks sorta like Roland Emmerich's SMAUGZILLA.
by Darth_Inedible
It's pretty obvious he was designed with human scale arms and legs to make the MOCRAP process easier. Lazy Pete... just LAZY. What was wrong with Howe's design? Heck just giving us an updated Vermithrax Pejorative would have been awesome. Instead we get SMAUGZILLA... http://tinyurl.com/6zsjrmh
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July 19, 2011, 2:01 a.m. CST
Pete MOCAP works great for human scale characters(Gollum) and giant monkeys but dragons?
by Darth_Inedible
Yes a sense of dread came over me when I heard Cumberbatch was MOCAPing Smaug. NOT GOOD. Dragons are supposed to move like exotic creatures, not men in fancy virtual CG suits. Maybe if you could train a lion or something and hooking it up to the sensors it would work... But this is a recipe for crap. What's probably going to happen is they'll end up having to totally redo all but the facial stuff and they'll still be stuck with the lame-ass body proportions that were supposed to make MOCAP easier. Imagine if Spielberg had mocapped the T-rex in Jurassic Park... Big floppy arms and long legs with human knees... ugh.
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July 19, 2011, 3:51 a.m. CST
yes the dragon Snoogie is gonna walk around like a human
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
it will look JUST LIKE some dude bent over crawling around on all 4's. It will look so fucking retarded that nerds and dorks and dorknerds will be bitching and moaning and having their periods over it for a thousand generations.
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July 19, 2011, 3:55 a.m. CST
wow that snoogie toy looks fucking retarded! hahahaha
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
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July 19, 2011, 7:14 p.m. CST
@dreamfasting - I am aware the swords they find are all elven. But you missed my point completely:
by Surfaces_are_supposed_to_be_FLAT
The fact that nothing about his character looks definitively Dwarvish is a big problem. Yes they find that great stash of weapon's and he takes Orcrist, but he should still look like a dwarf carrying it. Not some crazy Ali Baba of the Night's Watch person. This person looks NOTHING like a dwarf.
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is fucking AWFUL. Awful, awful, AWFUL. Let's hope that's not the final design.
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I posted that Thorin picture on my Facebook, and one friend responded with "That guy's supposed to be a dwarf? He looks like Frank Zappa with a sword!" Nice observation, I thought. Though the Gowron comparison is apt as well.
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