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Harry has finished the HARRY POTTER series with HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS Pt 2! Which is bleeding magnificent btw.
There are film franchises that sometimes work their way into your life. For the past decade we’ve been seeing the various adventures of HARRY POTTER. When it began, I scoffed at the notion of this “children’s book” and the mania it has caused. BUT – I went in with open eyes & mind. I swore a decade ago to never read spoilers, to save reading the books for that point of time in my future where if I find myself lucky enough to have children… Well, I’d like to read the Potter books and discover the undeniable magic that must reside in them at that time… with a child.
Exactly five and one half years ago, the world of Harry Potter had a massive change for me. I met my wife upon our first date exactly five and a half years ago, and on this day 4 years ago I married her. Her name happened to have CHO as her middle name and I am most definitely a HARRY. Harry’s first kiss in the series was with CHO and we made a big deal about that. Every year, about two weeks before Halloween we throw a WIZARD PEOPLE DEAR READER party, where we play SORCEROR’S STONE with that rather awesome audio track. Our living room has jack o’lanterns hanging from the ceiling at various levels just like in the great hall at Hogwarts…
Yoko and I love the HARRY POTTER series – but we both haven’t read the series, she’s cracked a few of the books, but I’ve forbidden her from telling me anything that is in the books that isn’t in the movies. I have been committed to running a site that often deals in spoilers, while at the very same time avoiding spoilers – and I’m happy to say… I SURVIVED.
I made it to the first showing of HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS PART II at 11:10am this morning, the first 2D show at the Alamo Drafthouse Village. It was a sell out crowd. I had 7 tickets for the show, bringing my father, sister, nephew and a pair of his friends, but we couldn’t sit together, so it was just Cho & Harry – as it should be – at the end.
I have to say, I’ve been privately rooting for Ginny to be killed so Harry & Cho could make a lil Eurasian Wizard or Witch… But that bitch in pink ruined any chance of their relationship – but in this final outing, I saw a spark between Cho & Harry twice in the film. I liked that.
How did it conclude for me?
Smashingly! Everything that is revealed about Snape’s character is pretty much exactly what I had hoped was coming. I won’t say what that stuff was, just in case, like me you’re trying to remain spoiler free… good luck on that btw – it isn’t easy. It is why I avoided the midnight crowd, when you’re in line with the hardcore – sometimes there’s some hardcore fan that is so excited to see their favorite part of the story and they could inadvertently blurt something out and suddenly my wand pops out and it’s Avada Kedavra and Dementors for the rest of my days. Fuck that. I’ll just slip in, not talk to anybody – be anti-social and just let the film play.
This final episode was extremely emotional. As the film played their came an overwhelming building sense of finality that washed over me. I could feel it ending, almost in the same fashion that Voldemort feels the threat that he feels. I honestly don’t want the series to end, but that is precisely why it must.
I would absolutely love it if the cast and crews could make another 20 episodes. That the sets would continue to stand, that we follow with magical lives of these characters with different genre twists. I’d love to just discover Harry’s adult world of magic. How he exists… I would love spin-off films that followed the life of Neville or Luna. The R-rated lives of Ron & Hermione.
If you haven’t discovered or warmed to Harry Potter – I hope you find it some day. It might be when you have kids.
Without a doubt, the HARRY POTTER series is one of the great episodic film series of all time. To deny it, would be to deny STAR WARS, LORD OF THE RINGS, GODFATHER, JAMES BOND, the FRANKENSTEIN trilogy, the Weissmuller TARZANs, the Rathbone & Bruce SHERLOCK HOLMES, the THIN MAN series, The MAN WITH NO NAME trilogy… All the great popular film series of all time. That this series was about a child becoming a man and that Warner Brothers was able to commit to the whole series, produce them in such a way as to have a whole cast of now adult actors that are ready to move on, create magic in whatever way they wish. This is more than Harry, Ron & Hermione… Look at the enormous talent pool they’ve created with this franchise.
I’m really curious what the next 20 years holds for the young cast members. They’ve had their talents honed by working with some of the very best older actors. If acting is what they wish to do.
Now – DEATHLY HALLOWS Part 2 has one truly stand out performance. It was frankly time for Lord Voldemort and Ralph Fiennes to take center stage. There’s a point in this film that evokes a point in Miike’s brilliant 13 ASSASSINS – and it involves the fragility of invulnerableness. His character has always strutted like a peacock, but here he finally has a great character to become. The highs and lows he experiences give him the basis to be the grandest bipolar villain in screen history. Watch him after the forest scene in the courtyard of Hogwarts. He’s just a delight. I once sat with Fiennes – long before HARRY POTTER. I was convinced he’d be the greatest Lex Luthor ever. After QUIZ SHOW & SCHINDLER’S LIST – I was just blown away by the fierce intelligence in his eyes. His ability to delight in his own thoughts. In RED DRAGON, which was the film he was at Sitges to promote, he was again the stand out from the film. Now we have him in one of the biggest franchises we’re ever likely to see. How does Voldemort stack up to the Emperor in STAR WARS? Well… for me it is a clear decision. Voldemort, especially in this final film, has become one of the great villains.
As for the Half Blood Prince, Rickman’s turn in this final film is the reason to rewatch the entire series right now. I’ve got this thing I have to do with my wife, but when I return home this weekend, I want to watch the entire series. Not before, that’s wrong. But after. The brilliant thing about Rowling’s story is that only now at the close do all the relationships, odd eccentricities, looks that characters have. Only now does it truly all make crystal clear sense – and it doesn’t let you down. It doesn’t make you sad for investing so much in what is really quite a silly tale of wizards and witches. Instead, here at the end I realize that this is a film series that isn’t over.
Just as I rewatched the entire SHERLOCK HOLMES series earlier this year, or that day this year I watched all 6 Star Wars films on SPIKE, or my recent one day orgy with LORD OF THE RINGS Expanded Editions. This is a comfort series. A film series to cuddle up with and share with the people you love, be they your wife, family, girl friend or children. The series takes its dark turns, its perilous trips, but in the end it is a complete life cycle that points out what we pass on.
The epilogue of the film underlines this. The universe of Harry Potter continues whether or not J.K. Rowling and Warner Bros puts it to paper or to screen. This universe is ours – to discuss, play with and wallow in. It’s a blessing really.
Today I watched 3 young people that I’ve come to love riding astride a magnificent albino looking abused dragon upon it’s valiant flight to freedom – and I cried. Cried because it was beautiful to see. Imagining the wind, the smell of that Gringott chained beast. The character animation of that dragon was perfect. It was one of the best dragons in the history of cinema and its life of pain was written upon it. That isn’t easy folks. It’s easy to make a badass dragon, it’s something else to make a dragon with pain. I can think of only one other – and I had a 15th Anniversary AICN screening of it earlier this year.
I delight at the magic of the Potter films. They are truly magical from beginning to end. This is most definitely not the last of this series that I’ll write about. For the rest of my life I’ll reference it, compare other films to it – quote it, party with it and I most definitely plan on raising a family and including it alongside a great deal of other wonderful films.
Enjoy this series. We’re not likely to see one quite like it ever again.
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Well that's an overstatement if I ever read one.
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July 15, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST
Harry has finished the HARRY POTTER series with HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS Pt 2!
by Lord Albion
Thanks for that Harry, cause I'm sure that JK Rowling and Warner Brothers had no idea how to wrap it up.
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Are terrible. I want to read about the movie and the cinematic qualities it has, not why it means alot to you.........
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Atleast as far as the movies go. DH2 had its moments, but POA will always be set apart from the rest of the films.
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July 15, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST
Harry has finished the HARRY POTTER series but will be DAMNED if he's finished swinging the BAN-HAMMER!
by Darth_Kong
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Because I would have gained nothing from reading this thesis on emotional responses other than Snape and Voldemort are great in the movie. And there's a dragon that will make you cry. But that's about it.
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For God's sake, pull yourself together man.
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I mean, that's pretty typical, but moreso the last few days...
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Why do quotation marks have to fuck EVERYTHING up in a post? Get your shit together. I said: 'To quote Argus Filch- ''For God's sake, pull yourself together man. '' Jeezus.
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Nordling?
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Better than the book, by miles.
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Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, the sequel to The Terminator and Terminator 2: Judgment Day. Yet, for some strange reason, AICN doesn't give credence to it.
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it can't finish its planned story because people refuse to acknowledge its existence or take notice.
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July 15, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST
Harry, I'm having trouble understanding this part of your review. Quoted below:
by THE_CHOPPAH
'There are film franchises that sometimes work their way into your life. For the past decade we’ve been seeing the various adventures of HARRY POTTER. When it began, I scoffed at the notion of this children’s book and the mania it has caused. BUT – I went in with open eyes & mind. I swore a decade ago to never read spoilers, to save reading the books for that point of time in my future where if I find myself lucky enough to have children… Well, I’d like to read the Potter books and discover the undeniable magic that must reside in them at that time… with a child. Exactly five and one half years ago, the world of Harry Potter had a massive change for me. I met my wife upon our first date exactly five and a half years ago, and on this day 4 years ago I married her. Her name happened to have CHO as her middle name and I am most definitely a HARRY. Harry’s first kiss in the series was with CHO and we made a big deal about that. Every year, about two weeks before Halloween we throw a WIZARD PEOPLE DEAR READER party, where we play SORCEROR’S STONE with that rather awesome audio track. Our living room has jack o’lanterns hanging from the ceiling at various levels just like in the great hall at Hogwarts… Yoko and I love the HARRY POTTER series – but we both haven’t read the series, she’s cracked a few of the books, but I’ve forbidden her from telling me anything that is in the books that isn’t in the movies. I have been committed to running a site that often deals in spoilers, while at the very same time avoiding spoilers – and I’m happy to say… I SURVIVED. I made it to the first showing of HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS PART II at 11:10am this morning, the first 2D show at the Alamo Drafthouse Village. It was a sell out crowd. I had 7 tickets for the show, bringing my father, sister, nephew and a pair of his friends, but we couldn’t sit together, so it was just Cho & Harry – as it should be – at the end. I have to say, I’ve been privately rooting for Ginny to be killed so Harry & Cho could make a lil Eurasian Wizard or Witch… But that bitch in pink ruined any chance of their relationship – but in this final outing, I saw a spark between Cho & Harry twice in the film. I liked that. How did it conclude for me? Smashingly! Everything that is revealed about Snape’s character is pretty much exactly what I had hoped was coming. I won’t say what that stuff was, just in case, like me you’re trying to remain spoiler free… good luck on that btw – it isn’t easy. It is why I avoided the midnight crowd, when you’re in line with the hardcore – sometimes there’s some hardcore fan that is so excited to see their favorite part of the story and they could inadvertently blurt something out and suddenly my wand pops out and it’s Avada Kedavra and Dementors for the rest of my days. Fuck that. I’ll just slip in, not talk to anybody – be anti-social and just let the film play. This final episode was extremely emotional. As the film played their came an overwhelming building sense of finality that washed over me. I could feel it ending, almost in the same fashion that Voldemort feels the threat that he feels. I honestly don’t want the series to end, but that is precisely why it must. I would absolutely love it if the cast and crews could make another 20 episodes. That the sets would continue to stand, that we follow with magical lives of these characters with different genre twists. I’d love to just discover Harry’s adult world of magic. How he exists… I would love spin-off films that followed the life of Neville or Luna. The R-rated lives of Ron & Hermione. If you haven’t discovered or warmed to Harry Potter – I hope you find it some day. It might be when you have kids. Without a doubt, the HARRY POTTER series is one of the great episodic film series of all time. To deny it, would be to deny STAR WARS, LORD OF THE RINGS, GODFATHER, JAMES BOND, the FRANKENSTEIN trilogy, the Weissmuller TARZANs, the Rathbone & Bruce SHERLOCK HOLMES, the THIN MAN series, The MAN WITH NO NAME trilogy… All the great popular film series of all time. That this series was about a child becoming a man and that Warner Brothers was able to commit to the whole series, produce them in such a way as to have a whole cast of now adult actors that are ready to move on, create magic in whatever way they wish. This is more than Harry, Ron & Hermione… Look at the enormous talent pool they’ve created with this franchise. I’m really curious what the next 20 years holds for the young cast members. They’ve had their talents honed by working with some of the very best older actors. If acting is what they wish to do. Now – DEATHLY HALLOWS Part 2 has one truly stand out performance. It was frankly time for Lord Voldemort and Ralph Fiennes to take center stage. There’s a point in this film that evokes a point in Miike’s brilliant 13 ASSASSINS – and it involves the fragility of invulnerableness. His character has always strutted like a peacock, but here he finally has a great character to become. The highs and lows he experiences give him the basis to be the grandest bipolar villain in screen history. Watch him after the forest seen in the courtyard of Hogwarts. He’s just a delight. I once sat with Fiennes – long before HARRY POTTER. I was convinced he’d be the greatest Lex Luthor ever. After QUIZ SHOW & SCHINDLER’S LIST – I was just blown away by the fierce intelligence in his eyes. His ability to delight in his own thoughts. In RED DRAGON, which was the film he was at Sitges to promote, he was again the stand out from the film. Now we have him in one of the biggest franchises we’re ever likely to see. How does Voldemort stack up to the Emperor in STAR WARS? Well… for me it is a clear decision. Voldemort, especially in this final film, has become one of the great villains. As for the Half Blood Prince, Rickman’s turn in this final film is the reason to rewatch the entire series right now. I’ve got this thing I have to do with my wife, but when I return home this weekend, I want to watch the entire series. Not before, that’s wrong. But after. The brilliant thing about Rowling’s story is that only now at the close do all the relationships, odd eccentricities, looks that characters have. Only now does it truly all make crystal clear sense – and it doesn’t let you down. It doesn’t make you sad for investing so much in what is really quite a silly tale of wizards and witches. Instead, here at the end I realize that this is a film series that isn’t over. Just as I rewatched the entire SHERLOCK HOLMES series earlier this year, or that day this year I watched all 6 Star Wars films on SPIKE, or my recent one day orgy with LORD OF THE RINGS Expanded Editions. This is a comfort series. A film series to cuddle up with and share with the people you love, be they your wife, family, girl friend or children. The series takes its dark turns, its perilous trips, but in the end it is a complete life cycle that points out what we pass on. The epilogue of the film underlines this. The universe of Harry Potter continues whether or not J.K. Rowling and Warner Bros puts it to paper or to screen. This universe is ours – to discuss, play with and wallow in. It’s a blessing really. Today I watched 3 young people that I’ve come to love riding astride a magnificent albino looking abused dragon upon it’s valiant flight to freedom – and I cried. Cried because it was beautiful to see. Imagining the wind, the smell of that Gringott chained beast. The character animation of that dragon was perfect. It was one of the best dragons in the history of cinema and its life of pain was written upon it. That isn’t easy folks. It’s easy to make a badass dragon, it’s something else to make a dragon with pain. I can think of only one other – and I had a 15th Anniversary AICN screening of it earlier this year. I delight at the magic of the Potter films. They are truly magical from beginning to end. This is most definitely not the last of this series that I’ll write about. For the rest of my life I’ll reference it, compare other films to it – quote it, party with it and I most definitely plan on raising a family and including it alongside a great deal of other wonderful films. Enjoy this series. We’re not likely to see one quite like it ever again.'
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July 15, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST
xen11 is to The Sarah Connor Chronicles what dioxholster is to Stargate: Universe.
by THE_CHOPPAH
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July 15, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST
THIS MOVIE WAS FUCKING AWFUL, JUST FUCKING TERRIBLE BEYOND WORDS!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinMan
I’ve been a defender of David Yates since Order of the Phoenix and for a Director with only a bunch of television credits; I thought he did a great job with Order despite my personal belief that the book had problems. My one complaint was that the movie felt way too clipped and could have used a bit more breathing space. I also believe that he’s incapable of properly delivering those big emotional moments with satisfying punch. He also had a tendency to underplay things a bit too much. He’s a good shooter but doesn’t have control over the flow of his films. Deathly Hallows Part 2 has all of these problems to the fucking max and then some. I can’t begin to tell you how fucking disappointed I am with this fucking movie. I was all set to buy the entire series on Blur-Ray at the end of the year but now, fuck that. This is Spider-man 3 levels of disappointment. Firstly, this movie is horribly edited. It’s soo choppy and cut soo tight that it rushes through anything that’s important while on the other end of the scale he lets other scene’s drag on and fucking on. Example, Snape’s back story was something that should have been taken slow. Instead it’s done at a lightening pace and we never get a fucking sense that Snape loved Lily. This is a perfect example of how Yates both cuts too quick and also cuts short any sort of big emotional payoff. The Yates decides to drag out that fucking King’s Cross section with Harry and Dumbledore in the afterlife. That scene is EVERYTHING wrong with Yates style. Drawn out, underplayed with no emotional payoff. Also, the battle scene’s are too fucking short and we get no sense of time passage. While Harry and Co. are fucking about, are we to assume that people are throwing spells at each other in the courtyard for however long it takes them to search for the Horcrux’s? Now, I’ve read a lot of complaints about how the deaths of certain characters were handled, that they rushed through them and didn’t properly give any of the characters their due. I suspected that people were being stupid and just wanted every death to be dragged out for five minutes. But they were right. We see characters for maybe ten seconds before they get offed and I felt nothing for their deaths. I don’t care if we’ve seen these people in the others movies for however long, I needed to see them in action in THIS MOVIE so that their deaths would hurt. Ten seconds with Fred and George and then we see Fred lying on the ground. Five seconds of Lupin and Tonks and then their bodies are put on display. Lavender is killed and we only know of this because they show her body for one second and where was Shefali Chowdhury who played one of the Patil girls? Am I to assume her characters was killed because we saw the other Patil girl was using a blanket to cover a body that we never see? I know I’ll sound like a HUGE fucking geek but Transformers The Movie showed how you kill off secondary characters. At the beginning of the movie, Autobot’s are getting wasted left and right and you feels those deaths because you know the characters, you recognize them and although most of them didn’t get a word in, you still felt for their deaths because that movie took the, however little, time needed for you to know who those characters were. But we don’t get that sort of emotional payoff in Deathly Hallows because Yates cuts everything too fucking short. You know, when you split a movie in two, why not let the thing FUCKING BREATH since people are more then willing to sit if the story is good enough?!? I mean, the guy let Deathly Hallows Part 1 fucking drag on and on. It also doesn’t help that the staging and blocking of most of the scenes is fucking horrendous and soo awkwardly cut that I sat there with my jaw open at how fucking inept this movie was. The score did the movie no favors at it was entirely forgettable and I can’t tell you how fucking annoying it was every time the sound and music dropped out. Long scene’s and moments of nothing but awkward silence does NOT make for compelling drama. The worst part of the entire thing was the final battle between Harry and Voldemort. It has the distinction of being dragged out for far too long and at the same time also throwing away Voldemorts death by underplaying it to such a fucking extent that I could not fucking care less. And what the FUCK were they thinking with that goddamn particle effect that they used for not only his death but also Bellatrix’s as well as Nagini’s. Another thing, apart from the bridge, everything that Neville Longbottom did should have been given to Ron Weasly as it would have given him something to do other than stand around and look like a fucking twat. Everything should have came to a crescendo in the courtyard and HOLY FUCKING SHIT did Voldemort come off like fucking Dr. Evil in those last scene’s proving the idiom that a villain should keep his fucking mouth shut. He didn’t come off half as threatening as he did in any of the previous movies. Like Freddy Kruger, the more he opened his fucking trap, the less effective he was and it didn’t help that Ralph Fiennes played it almost for camp when he should have came off as intense and menacing. That’s all I’ve got for now. I’m soo mentally exhausted over how much build up there was for this movie, only to get the spiky dildo up the ass at the end. A fucking wretched ending to what could have been an iconic achievement.
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They make me laugh so hard that I have no trouble squeezing out my colon hogs.
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Where do ponies come from?
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"I cried"? I'm sorry, I just don't believe that. Look, there is a reason movies like The Goonies, Monster Squad, Labyrinth, etc etc resonate with me as an adult at age 31, and it is because I grew up with them, so I even as an adult I will always see them in a different light than a fellow adult who is watching them for the first time, however when it comes to Harry Potter, I was in my mid-20's when the first once came out. It isn't going to be the same feeling or emotion. It just isn't. This isn't to say there is anything wrong with the Harry Potter flicks. They are all good and well, for the most part, each installment makes for an entertaining couple of hours, but I have just heard so many time so many articles and reviews that "you cried" over them that I just kind of stopped believing it. We did not grow up with Harry Potter, it has nothing to do with the magic of "our childhood" It just simply doesn't. It isn't a kids movie such as The Sandlot that purposely is trying to catch a glimpse of the past. Just let Harry Potter be for this generation's children already. It isn't about you are "gushy feelings" from your childhood.
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Curious to see your reaction to the novels now, and if they might offer a new hindsight to the films for you.
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It seems that you love everything that's popular now. Harry Potter is for Children, Harry Potter sucks, Harry Potter has ALWAYS SUCKED!
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Once again, you use your powers of observation and brevity to point out the flaws in our emotionally compromised HeadGeek.
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July 15, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST
THE KING'S CROSS SECTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLAYED LIKE "IT'S A GOOD LIFE" FROM THE TWILIGHT ZONE MOVIE!!!FACT!!! LET ME EXPLAIN.....
by CreepyThinMan
At the end of Joe Dante's "It's a Good Life" segment of The Twilight Zone movie, he does this fantastic scene between Helen Foley (Kathleen Quinlan) and Anthony (Jeremy Licht) are talking in sort of netherworld landscape. Its just a stage, dimly lit wit some fog on the ground. But what Dante does it use this strobe effect that give the scene an otherworldly feeling that is infinitely more effective than having two assholes on what is obviously a greenscreen stage, surrounded by infinite white light. That King's Cross scene should have had an ethereal feeling and Yates completely fucked that right in the shitpipe. He did the same thing with the scene in the forest. The guy knows how to move the camera around but he has no fucking clue as to how to give a scene a particular feeling and his horrible editing style kills any sort of "magic" that most of these scene's would have otherwise had. When I watch Azkaban, I was enthralled with the mood and atmosphere but, most importantly, it was the was the way that everything felt that gave that movie its strength. I also loved Goblet because even Mike Newell had a better sense of tone and editing than this fucking wanker Yates who obviously got the job because he would follow orders, keep his trap shut and get whatever footage the Producers asked for. Deathly Hallows part 2 is a fucking disaster on par with that fucking piece of trash Green Lanter. You now, people talk shit about Thor (my favorite movie of this summer so far) but Kenneth Branagh paced that movie perfectly and hit all of the emotional beats that he needed. Was it revolutionary? Fuck no! But everything was soo well done that I couldn't help but get wrapped up in the story. I can't say the same for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2. What a fucking disappointment.
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July 15, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST
the_choppah, I THINK WHAT'S MAKING YOU LAUGH IN THE BATHROOM IS THE TRAGIC COMEDY THAT IS YOUR TINY COCK!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinMan
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Praise from you is no small thing.
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July 15, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST
I keep having these fears that Katy Perry and Rebecca Black will be a teen duo and pump out movies similar to Corey Feldman and Corey Haim.
by Darth_Kong
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I told you to stay out of my stash. That is some strong shit. You need some training on it before you dive in head first.
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July 15, 2011, 4:31 p.m. CST
I get these scary feelings mostly in the morning and they fade by mid-afternoon.
by Darth_Kong
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The last great series ever huh Harry? What a joke, I usually defend Harry, but, my god Potter wasn't that groundbreaking! Harry your reviews are truly suffering. I just can't trust you after recommending Tranformers 3. But I'm still seeing this, just don't think it will go down as THE LAST GREAT MOVIE SERIES
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I haven't seen it yet, can someone enlighten me?
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for it to be good? These aren't even reviews anymore Harry, they're freaking blog posts.
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July 15, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST
catchtheman, I had a feeling you'd mention something about penises.
by THE_CHOPPAH
It's what you do. You like penises. Not that there's anything wrong with that. FACT.
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"Ooo, I'm Harry, and my girlfriend is Cho! Ooo! I hope Ginny dies so Harry can be with Cho! Ooo! Injured dragons make me cry. Oooo!" As many have stated before me, Harry, you need to actually review a movie in your movie reviews.
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So the ongoing LOTR series sucks ass then? And Tin-Tin is gonna suck? Hyperbole much?
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July 15, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST
Hey, would you look at that? J-Lo and Marc Anthony are getting divorced.
by THE_CHOPPAH
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July 15, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST
the_choppah, I CAN'T HELP BUT MENTION PENISES IN RELATON TO SUCH A DICKHEAD AS YOU!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinMan
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I am what I CHOP.* *I did moonlight as a mohel for a few years in the 80s.
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that I've touched as many penises as catchtheman.
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July 15, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST
the_choppah, I BET YOU USED THE FORESKIN AS CHEWING GUM!!!
by CreepyThinMan
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Your takedowns of HARRY POTTER and the Head Ginger in Charge are usually florid, witty and elaborately argued. These 'insults' you're tossing my way are better left to the playground. Please, use your talents. Don't waste them. Flame me with the same panache you flame everything else.
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I've had enough of this whole Harry Potter franchise to last a lifetime.
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July 15, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST
"Compare other films to it"....Harry.....are you fuckin serious?
by LORDOFLIGHT
What.....like Mary Poppins for instance? Cos that's the type of thing it should be compared to.
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I hope to god we get back to REAL fantasy and away from all this kiddified fantasy crap like Harry Potter and Eragon.
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July 15, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST
the_choppah, YOU'RE NOT WORTH MY HATE AND THAT'S THE WORST THING I CAN SAY ABOUT YOU!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinMan
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July 15, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST
Here's another film to compare to H. Potter..Bedknobs and Broomsticks!
by LORDOFLIGHT
There's another similar type thing Harry.
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it's a big disappointment for a last installment. It's not all bad but in the hands of someone else it could have been great. Snape deserved more time, considering his role in all of the movies, not just a 5 min flashback. The final battle, poor editing. Not what I expected, the dual between Dumble and Voldi in the Order was 10x better and more thrilling. I'd give this film 2.5 out of 4, don't understand the love its getting from the critics. Herb out.
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I'm sorry, but did you say something else, catchtheman?
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Deathly Hallows pt 1 is now totally a useless movie, it will be the least watched of the entire series, the least bought DVD as well. One movie, not two, was needed to end this series, and pt. 2 proves that point.
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Please just disappear into kids matinee hell so the rest of us don't have to put up with this incredibly overhyped crap any more.
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I've known some folks like harry who just have seen the movies and think they are crazy awesome but have never read the books and I'm always thinking "REALLY!!! then you must needs go batshit insane when you read the books for this feeling to be consistent" I think the books are spectacular but the movies have more or less just been ok. the books are SOOOOOO superior its nuts! is anyone with me?
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Just think.........if that dragon had been in some REAL good fantasy flick (that's not aimed at 5 year old girls who like dressing up as witches) then it could have been really cool
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July 15, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST
Why would any adult (particularly males) rave about a film about kid wizards?
by LORDOFLIGHT
It never ceases to amaze me how some adults rave about these bloody films and books. I think it's totally mad how some adults really get into them. It's weird for fucks sake.
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or they say they like them cos their wives or girlfriends are into them. Cos I'm fucked if I know what any male over the age of 14 sees in them (apart from admiring the special effects....which are too good to be in a film about boy wizards).
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Order of the Phoenix should have been his only entry, and it would always have been seen as the weakest in the series regardless. Cuaron should have been asked back for either HBP or DH as his style IS how this universe ought to be. Prisoner of Azkaban is the only real movie with any class and substance out of all 8. I give Mike Newell's Goblet of Fire a pass because he had so much to cram into that movie and he excecuted stuff like the Voldemort graveyard scene, Cedric's death etc. perfectly. Columbus's entries have more about them than all of Yates's put together. As others have said before me, the guy doesn't know how to pace a sequence, where to put the camera, how to find the emotional heart of a scene, how to make anything feel like it's not 'on rails'. With him it just feels dull, drab, calm. Not epic, magical, emotional, spectacular, tear-jerking, enthralling, satisfying, all the things the Harry Potter films should be, especially the finale. I really wish Order had bombed so they went and found someone with a bit more life about them to round out the series. Not a studio puppet like Yates.
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You have been trolling the past 3 Potter talkbacks pretty hard core!
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July 15, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST
HARRY POTTER SMASHES RECORDS - 80 MILLION + on 1st day! Watch out Avatar Harry's coming for ya!!!
by Arkhaminmate001
HP has been confirmed as breaking TDK record for 1 day, TDK also holds the 3 day record -120 million - but that's as good as gone. This Movie will reach Avatar gross, and the best thing is...IT'S A BLOODY GOOD FILM!!!
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July 15, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST
choppah: I am at work and in tears I am lauging so hard - at elast everyone else has gone home.
by ClayMatthews
This is why I read talkbacks man - epic. What movie are we even talking about again?
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Come on, we know that they butter you up with freebies to get a good review out of you. You're a joke.
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July 15, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST
"Where do ponies come from?" Oh, Christ I am so stealing that.
by ClayMatthews
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July 15, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST
No one cares what you think anymore, Harry.
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
Even if you miraculously haven't been bought out by the studios and legitimately like this, people no longer trust you and your badly written reviews. No one cares about your fucking life, Harry. Lose the ego, take some writing classes and show some dignity by getting off your knees for the studios, and maybe -- just MAYBE -- you can start making this site resemble what it once was. Oh, and fix this fucking site. As primitive as it is, it shouldn't have any problems. Yet you get page errors and posting problems daily.
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July 15, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST
The AICN 15th Anniversary Screening of "Pete's Dragon" made me cry too.
by The Reluctant Austinite
sniff -- I'm still not quite over it. he he he---
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I hate to say it my man, but you have been duped. It is a good thing you did not read the books, as I did. I wont get into details because I respect your decision to finish the cinematic HP universe before indulging in the literature HP universe but I will tell you this...The Battle of Hogwarts is much more epic in the book than it is in the movie. Knowing you and what you like, you would have loved if the filmmakers did what they should have done with characters and CGI, instead of paying these three young actors more than a 100+ millions of dollars. Sometimes, I wish the actors cared a little bit more about the fans than their paychecks. All I wanna tell you is DONT READ THE BOOKS, you'll be sad forever!
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I've seen all the movies except for "Azkaban" - which many say is the best - and tried once to read the books, but didn't get past the first few pages. I don't know what it is because I don't begrudge anyone their fandom, but I've tried and tried to get into this "universe" and I just can't. I don't seem to relate to anything here. The sort of childhood depicted here (minus the magic, of course) is nothing like mine was and I've never been either a believer or a big fan of that kind of magic. To me, it's just the same old hero's journey with yet another set of names and trappings. The movies frustrate me because although I'm sure it's not anyone's fault, I can understand maybe 2/3rds of the dialogue (due to the accents, which I guess I'm not as used to as I thought) and when I turn on the captions, it's all... underwhelming. All that aside, I respect Rowling for what she's done and hope Potter fans get what they want out of this series.
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You are right about getting to experience the magic (of EVERYTHING) all over again when you have kids. Only it's even betten than that. It's like someone hit the reset button on life. You get to experience the magic all over again, but it's as if it's the FIRST TIME again. Having a child restores your imagination virginity. There's only a few times where it's frustrating (when they can't understand the concept of time travel or alternate universes). But for the most part, it's amazing. My son was born 10 months before the first Lord of the Rings. He has been raised on it now, and I get to experience WITH HIM, the excitement of the upcoming Hobbit flick. It's huge for me, but it's even bigger for him because he's been waiting for this HIS WHOLE LIFE! And I get to be there, sharing the experience with him. It's amazing, surreal, and miraculous in all the best senses of those words. Get that rehab DONE so you can reproduce, man! It's well worth it!
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I'm right there with you. The books are so much better than anything the films have presented. But Harry's luckier than both of us. He gets to enjoy the movies BECAUSE of his ignorance of the books. And then he gets to read the books and be delighted ALL OVER AGAIN! I wish I was in his place.
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July 15, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST
Not trolling vader......just can't stand this overhyped Potter phenomenon.
by LORDOFLIGHT
Seeing as some people seem to be caught up in this nonsense with these decidely average kids films and books.
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..and all bullshit aside, this site really is the cosmic center of the geek universe. If you and AICN were gone tomorrow the world would be a sadder, smaller place. I would even miss the trolls. It makes me smile that you are so wonderfully weird and boundlessly enthusiastic and I think it is great when a movie can mean something personal to someone - especailly someone who loves movies as muich as you do. But that was not a review. You have a very big voice in the geek community and we do largely read this site for scoops and reviews. Including yours. You know this. With great power comes great responsibility, Harry. Reflections and ruminations on HP7.2 so noted. Looking forward to future reviews.
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It comes off as trolling because you go into places where you know you will find lots of Harry Potter fans and express your confusion PASSIONATELY. Over. And over. And over. If you don't get it, why be so passionate about it? Why not just "not get it" somewhere else? I don't get everybodys love of Transformers. So I read the reviews out of curiostiy and then leave. I'm not "moved" enough to feel the need to EXPRESS my indifference to all the fans.
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Every single actor in this movie with more than 3 minutes of screen time is over the age of 20. Now what, you dumbass fucking troll?
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Your review and perspective is not complete until you read the novels. and you have plenty of kids among friends and family to share them with.
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July 15, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST
Harry--how are you gonna pick voldemort over palpatine?!?
by THE_CHOPPAH
Palpatine was planning shit years and decades in advances. Plans within plans. Playing both sides for one goal. Voldemort didn't plan for shit. Palpatine threw that shit before he walked in the room!
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like Lupin and Tonks but that doesn't mean they couldn't change that and I wished they had. I mean Lupin is a character who had been around since the 3rd movie and he deserved a better send off as did other characters like Moody. Hagrid was such a non-factor in this movie, it made me wish he was written out of it altogether and his hugging of Harry felt too casual for someone who had known Harry since he was a baby and had witnessed his death and the small detail that he'd just killed Voldermort. Of course I thought the whole scene was odd where Harry walks through the hall and people are barely acknowledging him. No victory snog from Ginny, no motherly hug from Mrs Weasley, no pats on the back from Hogwarts classmates. No wonder Harry bolts to go hang out with Ron and Hermoine.
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Meanwhile, TIME has put up the Balin and Dwalin pic: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/15/time-exclusive-first-look-at-balin-and-dwalin-from-the-hobbit-movie/
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When Capone says he didn't really love it, you guys give him hell about it. "Oh, Rotten Tomatoes begs to differ with you! You must not have gotten paid by the studio! Everyone else loves it why don't you?" When Harry says he loved it, you tell him he's an idiot that loves movies made for children and that he will like anything popular. Most of you just spew negativity and don't contribute to any real discussion. Just so you know. Its annoying.
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Word. It sucks having to wade through all the crap to find the actual contributing talkbackers who aren't complaining about the site or the reviewers.
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97% fresh with a an average rating of 8.4/10 after 200+ reviews counted. Wouldn't it make this movie Oscar bound?
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So relieved to see Craplight getting knocked.
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Harry doesnt review movies, he gushes over them like a teenage girl with a crush. I have never once been convinced to see a movie based on his reviews and prolly never will. Harry, please write a real review for once. Right now i see them as "Harry had multiple orgasms while watching a film"
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Positive reviews don't mean its Oscar-worthy. Its not.
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July 15, 2011, 8:51 p.m. CST
Yate's best (which isn't saying much). Azkaban best of series.
by Thanos0145
Mrs. Weasley's battle with Bellatrix was much better than Harry vs. Voldemort. The score was lacking and its a shame they couldn't get John Williams back to finish this final installment. It sucks that Snape didn't get his due in this movie but the blame goes to Yates.
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The last 2 movies have probably had the strongest scores of any of the films. It appears as though you rate the score of a film based on the anthems rather than the actual mood. You want to hear themes you recognize. Have you ever noticed that THOSE movies never win awards? You ever think that there's more to music than a catchy theme? Apparently not.
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July 15, 2011, 8:57 p.m. CST
genderblender you just proved you didn't see the movie. good job.
by Mel
What you said doesn't even happen. So that's a fantastic attempt at trolling.
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Just because the actors are now over a certain age don't mean they're still not kids flicks. They started out as kids flicks and books......and they always will be. Again...nowt wrong with kids films but let's not get carried away and try and make out they're anything other than kids matinee type films. Type of thing the Childrens film foundation used to make (only with better effects).
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July 15, 2011, 9:01 p.m. CST
the_choppah - Palpatine was a bad guy who had absolutely no depth
by Mel
In the movies, if you think about it, Palaptine was as shallow as it gets. OK he wanted to run the Republic. Why not? I could see that...but how the fuck is he some badass lightsaber wielding Sith when he mocks the lightsaber in Return of the Jedi? How can the "Sith" be extinct for a billion years when it's just a dude with the force who is evil? It's not a race, obviously. What's his beef with the Jedi, anyway? He just does random shit. Voldemort was a racist. He hated muggles. He wanted to take over the world, and he needed to eliminate his magical enemies before doing so. It's not like he can avada kedavra all of China, you know? He was trying to unite the wizarding world under his "flag" so he could take over. Palpatine was kind of doing the same, except that he just randomly killed most of the people who could have joined him.
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July 15, 2011, 9:02 p.m. CST
lordoflight, YOU SAID it's about children. 20 years olds arent children.
by Mel
I made you look stupid and you actually tried to defend your idiocy with more idiocy.
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John Williams' work on the 3rd movie was inspired and definitely the best of the series with recognizable motifs woven throughout the film. 5th movie had the worst score. At least the 6th movie reused Williams' Quidditch music from POA. The Deathly Hallows music I need to listen to more, but I definitely did *not* come away with the impression they were the best of the series. In fact, the music used when Snape has his flashback to being a child, sounded a lot like unused material from Desplat's "Cold Mountain" soundtrack it was so similar to that. Not that I mind, I thought it was wonderful, but nothing will touch Williams' work in POA. That's only part of the reason why I believe POA to be the best in the series.
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Obviously they're older in this one but for most of the films they were kids/teens. And now they're older doesn't stop this from being a kids film.
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I beg to differ. Palpatine wasn't shallow. Though his goal was a simple agenda, he had to carry out a multigenerational plan to achieve it. He wanted to rule the entire galaxy..and would kill anyone who got in his way. Including children and ewoks. He didn't have to bully you into doing his dirty work..he talked you into it, manipulated with ease anyone at anytime. Last point--he went up against Samuel L. Jackson and won.
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I really enjoyed it (with minor quibbles) up until the Kings Cross scene. I would have enjoyed a FEW more look-ins at the battle, as the action we did get was pretty exciting and epic. A lot of things were as good or better than I imagined - the Gringotts break-in, the protection of the castle (McGonagall owned), the Room of Requirement scene (just spot on), Voldemort's announcements to Harry's followers, Harry's moment(s) with Snape, the Prince's Tale, the goodbye's to Ron/Hermione, the long walk to the Forbidden Forrest, and the killing scene itself (brilliant, I thought). Unfortunately, from there, I felt they started to bobble it, which was really unfortunate, because I felt that part was just written for the screen. Neville's triumph definitely should have come after his speech (the resulting "conflict" with Nagini, Ron, and Hermione just felt forced and drawn out). Where was the reaction from everyone when Voldemort brings back Harry's body? A scream from Ginny and everyone else just looks sort of confused. We should have been getting camera shots of looks of shock and grief from the surviving members. Sure, WE know he's not dead, but they don't. Even more mystifying was the aforementioned post-duel reactions of everyone. People were barely acknowledging him! It's understandable that all of these folks were fighting for their own survival, but there needed to be more of a clamor. There should have been applause, congratulations, awe, SOMETHING (sorry melgibson, I have to differ with you there). All of this could have been solved by simply having the last leg of the duel within the Great Hall. I have no problems with them extending the scene between them, but when they make their final apparation, have them land in the middle of everyone. You can't tell me that both sides wouldn't have just stopped and watched the iconic battle going on between them. They all knew that that's what it came down to in the end. Instead, it felt too much like The Boy Who Lived became least famous during his highest moment of triumph. And whoever mentioned the "particle effect" used for the death of the snake, Bellatrix, AND Voldemort, I completely agree. It's been done before. They could have been more creative there. Overall, I left the film satisfied with large chunks, and irritated by others, which is pretty much how I've felt about ALL of the films. The main difference here was that I liked a whole lot more than I've liked in the others. Unfortunately, the parts they got wrong were some of the more disappointing and inexplicable mistakes in the entire series. So I'm feeling a bit more empty than I'd hoped.
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July 15, 2011, 9:35 p.m. CST
lordoflight - your current argument basically basically implies that all adults are children because they started out as children
by BlackBauer0320
just trying to follow the logic... so, a kid starts out a kid, but then grows up to become 18 and is involved in a dispute involving weapons...he should still be tried as a child because that's what he started out as? (forgive my horribly vague and poor example, but I just don't understand how a concept that starts out aimed at a younger crowd can NOT evolve to be aimed at an older crowd...especially when the readers are aging along with the characters).
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Hurray for Edits.
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but I would have liked a bit more of it. The battle for hogwarts felt rushed and, IMO, they could have added 15 minutes or so to it. The Prince's Tale section could also have been expanded to show why Lily and Snape had their falling out. I realize nobody's expectations can be completely met with a final chapter of a long series like this, but all in all, this was a satisfying ending.
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That's always quite a feat. I still think with this series you're better off reading the books first. But at least you can read them now, right? :D Anyhoo, the movie was really good. I just had a sense that we had to finish it. It's funny. I knew how everything would happen but unlike other serieses (?) I felt a need to get rid of the Dark Lord. Like "let's do this!". As if I was one of the kids at Hogwarts and I wasn't going to get any peace until it was over. lol I also realize I'm gonna miss these kids. Meaning Rupert as Ron, Emma as Hermione, Daniel as Harry, etc. I feel a need to draw a heart in their peanut butter sandwich as I send them off into the world. Like they're my kids or something. And that made it so very sad. I cried several times. I wish it wasn't over. (spoilers) I wish there would be movies where they take the kids to quidditch practice. There was a little kid leaving the theater I was in who said "So it starts over with the kids?" and I thought... 'You may be onto something".
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July 15, 2011, 9:45 p.m. CST
Sorry melgibsoncalledmethenword but the score was lacking.
by Thanos0145
I'd rather listen to the earlier HP scores by John Williams than this moodless score for Deathly Hallows.
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Capone is a douchebag for his negative revew because the studio didn't bribe him and Harry is an idiot for liking it be use it's a stupid kids film. Such interesting feedback on here
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July 15, 2011, 10:17 p.m. CST
Am I to understand there is a TOMATOMETER but this site has no BAN-METER? How will I ever know what happened to CREEPYTHINMANLIVES? ;)
by Darth_Kong
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What does this shit matter? It's all coming down, folks. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em.
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July 15, 2011, 10:21 p.m. CST
I'm going to have to play a CARD. Not the RACE CARD. Not the SEX CARD. I'm playing the GEEK CARD.
by Darth_Kong
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Five years is all that we got.
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July 15, 2011, 10:26 p.m. CST
And if you can't provide a BAN-METER Harry Knowles, I say you've lost your GEEK status.
by Darth_Kong
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She makes me hot. I love opinionated, combative ladies.
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Love to know what you think of the Lord of the Rings (I remember a decade ago when HP talkbacks turned into a war of words between LOTR and HP fanboys, because it apparently used to be a crime to enjoy both).<p>The Hobbit is ultimately considered to be children's literature. So based on your comments, it doesn't matter than the later books (LOTR) are intended for an older audience. It's kiddie books and hold no merit for anyone over the age of 18.<p>But somehow, I doubt that logic would hold true. Which leads me to ask, what's the real reason you hate this series?
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A cop knelt and kissed the feet of a priest, and a queer threw up at the sight of that.
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Not financially - it's too beloved world-wide for that to happen. If the dragon made you cry, Alfonso Cuaron would have us all jumping off buildings to make the pity in our hearts stop. Yates gave the Potter films nothing but lots & lots of silent, motionless moments. So, thanks, Yates for delivering a mediocre product on schedule and on budget for a fuckton of profit. You earned your paycheck.
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These books and films started off for younger readers and viewers and it's only the last 1 or 2 where the kids have grown up. I'm talking about adults who've been into them from the start when the kids were very young.
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July 15, 2011, 11:25 p.m. CST
I hate these films precisely because people bunch them in with real fantasy bramton1.
by LORDOFLIGHT
Like Lord of the Rings or any other fantasy that was never intended for kids. Tolkien was a genius whereas Rowling is nothing of the sort. She's just got lucky as her kids books have been so overhyped.
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I am a fan of the series but there are too many goddamn plot holes. They take things out that should be there but then they put in the resulting consequences. Also who taught Yates to direct?
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exactly. see my above post.
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1) Emma Watson clearly moving during the fade before the epilogue before the director says "cut" 2) The way Voldamort met his demise...I was really hoping for one last BOOOM! spell but nope. 3) The kid playing Harry's son in the epilogue...totally snotty brat of a kid that clearly is enjoying that he was cast as Potter Jr. That's it...other than that this film was great for: 1) The music...nowhere in this film was a battle anthem...I didn't hear war drums being sounded or any sort of massive battle theme like in LotR...this movie was filled with pulse-pounding emotion and dread...we didn't rrrreally need to see the supporting cast fighting cuz we heard how impossible it must be....the music just plain rocked. 2) Dumbledore and Snape...wrapped everything up perfectly...honestly, being a fan of SAW, it was almost like Severus dropped a tape recorder at the end and Harry hit play and the audience was treated to a "Saw" twist. Fantastic 3) "I've always wanted to use that spell!" Add to that the best movie kiss I've seen in a long time, Neville finally getting some respect, and Aberforthe's nuke blast. Snape, Neville, and Aberforthe....Dumbledore..nah, besides, he was totally gay.
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July 16, 2011, 12:27 a.m. CST
I enjoyed it. I thought the pacing was a little too fast though.
by Orionsangels
Overall though it was a satisfying end to the series.
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(Spoilers ahead.) I really didn't want to be disappointed in the film, but I was. I thought HBP was excellent, and really nailed the emotion of the story. But this one seemed full of special-effects spectacle to the exclusion of any emotion. The intended emotional moments lacked the necessary buildup and time spent with the characters to make the payoff work. And the whole thing felt rushed to me. If you're going to split it into two films, why rush through a 130 minute runtime when you could tack on an extra 20 minutes or so and really flesh out the moments of real gravity? This film, with 20 more minutes spent on the Snape backstory (astoundingly rushed, to the point of insult), Hogwarts battle (and its criminally overlooked deaths), and a proper finale (what, they ditched the entire final extended dialogue between Harry & Voldemort, with everyone watching, in favor of him dissolving?). Heck, even the postscript felt rushed. It was great, and moving, to see all the actors come back for another go. There were really nice moments sprinkled throughout. But it was a crummy time for everything that Yates has gotten wrong in his previous episodes to come back all at once. Rushed, jumbled, disjointed, a mess. And I say this as someone who adores the books and loves the actors. This was a serviceable but empty payoff.
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Don't you worry Harry. Warner will reboot the series in time for your kids who will think the coolest thing about the series is that it's in 3D motion capture. Or something like that.
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July 16, 2011, 1:13 a.m. CST
Hell, they'll probably do a Stuff We Had To Cut From The Books series.
by Subovon
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you cried at the dragon scene???? you thought THAT was one of the best dragons of all cinema experiences given to man??? maybe, but is that saying much....once again, heres to peter jackson and to giving harry a heart attack cuz if this movie toots his horn that surely will do him over
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=79858
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Give us seven, yes SEVEN full four-hour films with all meat, no fat, no punches pulled.
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Without emotion, espectacle, slow, bad written,awful ending..... And should win razzie for worst make-up...
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Having just watched all three extended edition LOTR blu-rays (and having gone to see HP7P2 last night and enjoyed it), all I can do is laugh and say that that statement has lost Harry his last shred of credibility for me personally. The Potter films are entertaining. But in the same league with ANYTHING in LOTR? Please...
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July 16, 2011, 3:36 a.m. CST
People who really think these are the greatest thing ever...
by AndoSoundsLikeAMong
Just need to get off their asses and read more. I'm not denying their success, or the relative entertainment value they contain. Whatever it is, J.K. captured something, found something, and also got really lucky - but she's obviously given a lot of people what they want. With films, okay. Yes, these aren't hardcore fantasy, but if you want to see magic and dragons elsewhere on the big screen, guess what, you can't. Now this series is over The Hobbit is the only thing like that slated for, well, ever. But with books, aimed at adult readers, there are so many out there that should reward you more than HP that I'm not sure where to start. The HP series as a whole demands at the beginning that you are going to accept a wobbly magic system played more for whismy and convienance than consitancy or set rules, and the existance of such things as watches that can wind back time which show up once and are then ignored forever. The instant impact, the "now" or one moment of problem solving magic can invoke is all that matters to Rowling, and sod the overall consequences for the entire story. And even then, Harry wins on a stupid, convoluted, tenious technicalty, which makes perhaps the most important scene in the entire series a "blink and you'll miss it" moment when Harry snatches Malfoy's wand away in the previous film. So. Well done J.K. I love fantasy and I really want to like HP more than I do; but the reason that I don't, is that it just isn't good enough. If you think this is the best there is out there, then I'm almost happy for you - you're no where near the ceiling yet. All you need to do is start reading.
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Come Dec 2013 - there will only be one cinematic dragon His name is Smaug
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A few years ago when I was stuck in bed for about a week, I watched all of the 'Friday the 13th/Jason' movies, back to back... It was mind-numbing.
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July 16, 2011, 4:58 a.m. CST
I envy Harry in the fact that he found a Cho- where are all the Asian female nerds/geeks?
by Kamaji
I guess being Chinese/Caucasian makes me some kind of freak, stuck in a limbo that just can't be broken out of.
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all about palpatines rise to power. as well as being about the birth of anakin skywalker.
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Crap. Search your feelings. You know it to be true. :)
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No freak at all. A huge percentage of "minorities" are mixed in America--almost all blacks, for instance. "Purity" is the illusion.
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The Harry Potter books are awesome. People who don't like them haven't read them or don't admit that they've read them. The movies? Not so much. Still, anyone who judges the books from the movies is really ruining what could potentially be a really good geek experience through cynicism.
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What are these books you're talking about? I mean, there are plenty of great secondary world fantasy books but books set in the "real" world? I'm not debating with you, I'd just like to know what they are so I can read them.
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July 16, 2011, 9:01 a.m. CST
Going to see this with low expectations...Snape Story Disappointment..
by conspiracy
Look...the only thing in the books with ANY emotional complexity is Snape. His story is possibly the only really adult thing Rowling has yet written. Seriously, I was really looking forward to the thespian God Rickman and the writers getting the chance to infuse this kiddie story with some honest adult emotion. If you have not read the books...Snapes story on screen SHOULD make the most heartless motherfucker weep like he just lost his entire world, the one thing that allows him to keep hold of the last thread of his humanity...which is exactly what happens to Snape and makes him the character he is. Really..there should not be a dry eye in the fucking theater....Yet, now I am reading it is rushed through in less than 5 minutes so I can watch 3 B grade actors look for magical trinkets? Really...we are going to give 5 minutes to what is, other than Dumbledores unethical machinations, the core of the story so they can shove in some CGI dragons and a ginger saying "Brilliant" 20+ fucking times? Fucking Amateur
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If there is one thing as obnoxious than a self righteous, all knowing, self important Xtian, Jew, Muslim, etc... It is a self righteous, all knowing, self important Atheist. Don't you agree? ;)
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July 16, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST
re: "[POTTER is] one of the great episodic film series of all time. To deny it would be to deny... the FRANKENSTEIN trilogy..."
by buggerbugger
Wait, what? **What**?! Did you really just **deny** four of Universal's 'Frankenstein' films in order to refer to the seven-part series as **a trilogy**? Did you really just do that, Harry? Did you really just deny more than half of the instalments in an episodic film series in the **same fucking breath** that you disapproved of such behaviour? 'The Frankenstein trilogy'? What the fuck is that? I can hazard a guess that it's the original, 'Bride of...' and 'Son of...', but knowing your schizophrenic taste in movies, this supposed 'trilogy' is probably made up of some of the more shit-house episodes, such as 'House of Frankenstein' and 'House of Dracula'. Well gee, fuck it, then. I guess it **is** okay to deny 'Harry Potter' as one of the greatest episodic film series of all time and we're all free to refer to 'The Harry Potter trilogy', depending on which three movies you think are the three least shitty, or even 'The Harry Potter Movie', denying all but your favourite. The best 'Potter' film will always be 'Harry Potter and the One Where Daniel Radcliffe's Fake, Inhuman Smile Appears the Least Amount of Times'.
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Entertainment Weekly for its cover of a few weeks ago had a close up movie promo shot of Daniel while shooting the first movie. The photo was actually very nice as it had Daniel smiling and in a giddy mood. Very honest. But the one thing I took away from it was the reason this kid is so happy is he's thinking: I'm going to play Harry Potter and I'm gonna be fucking rich!!
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Didn't Mr. Knowles understand that nothing would ever happen between Harry and Cho after she ratted him out (even though she presumably had been drugged) about his training of the others in Order of the Phoenix? The writing couldn't have been written any more clearly on the wall.
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July 16, 2011, 10:45 a.m. CST
re: "An atheist claims to know for a FACT that no such thing exists."
by buggerbugger
An atheist claims no such thing, in the very same way that an atheist doesn't feel an overwhelming urge to state that it's a fact that the pantheons of Greek, Roman and Egyptian gods and goddesses don't exist. But sane and rational people will continue to take these things as givens without any evidence to the contrary in the same way that they will take it as a given that there is no such thing as a unicorn or a fire-breathing dragon. If a man appeared tomorrow, claiming himself to be the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, the majority of Christians wouldn't believe him **without proof**. Come on, Jesus 2: Messianic Boogaloo, show us some fucking magic tricks. No magic tricks, no fucking "belief" in your claims, mate.
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July 16, 2011, 10:45 a.m. CST
Not to bag on you Harry, but man, you need an editor.
by Orbots Commander
You should at least run your piece through spell check before you post it. The spelling and grammatical errors took me out of the reading experience.
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Cheers. And yes, it's that very same smile. Kid's an actor and he can't even do a convincing smile.
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Just a couple days ago you were saying Harry Potter would bomb and CA would dominate it. Now you've totally switched your stance. Now you're throwing shit at Captain America. You also stated you'd never see Deathly Hallows part 2 but here you are ragging on scenes you didn't like. You flip flop more than a politician.
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July 16, 2011, 11:08 a.m. CST
HARRY POTTER is one of the great episodic film series of all time
by kwisatzhaderach
It really isn't. Is Harry seriously trying to say it's on the same level as Star Wars, The Godfather, the Bond flicks, Man With No Name trilogy etc? Jesus wept.
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Dear Harry, I note the criticism of your review above; just wanted to say that I thought it was excellent. There are a plethora of reviews about the film on the web, this was far more personal, but also setting it in a wider context. For me the film wasn't quiet pitch perfect, although very good. Some of the changes from the book do not make internal logical sense in the cold light of day; but do not distract when watching the film. I do not agree with a couple of critiques I read, complaining of the speed with which the film wraps, this echoes the book - and brings the audience back full circle. When reading the books I thought that Rowling had killed Dumbledore off one book too late, as Harry needed time to become his own man before facing Voldermort. In fact Rowling was bang on the money, Harry does not 'out-wizard' Voldermort; I thought this central point was well delivered. Like you I watched this film in 2D, thank goodness. 2D digital I think is superb, delivering top notch quality; 3D robs the picture of dynamism for very little return. M
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That has to be one of the dumbest expressions I've ever heard.
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Oh boy. Not hard to imagine this thing making US$200 millions this weekend.
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isnt "Real Fantasy" kinda self-contradicting...?
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I so wanted to see the movie ASAP that I went to Paris France to see it on Wednesday since the movie opened there. I made a video of my adventure - a fan tribute to the ten years I've spent with the series. http://youtu.be/96u4pAEOZwE
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I have absolutely no belief in god, but it's not something I really consider or have to reaffirm on a daily basis. I personally don't see a need to deny something there is no evidence for. Saying "There is no god" makes about as much sense to me as saying "There are no dragons". Why should I actively deny something that can't be proven in the first place? If people didn't bring up god all the time, or the lack thereof, I honestly would never even consider it. That doesn't mean I think we know everything about the universe, however. I respect my religious friends (particularly the ones who are secure enough that they don't need to push their beliefs on others).
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Fuck. Fucking. Fuckers. Fuckity Fuck Fucked. FACT!" Oh and "shitpipe." Musn't forget "shitpipe.
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I can't help most of these talkbackers with the blowjobs they're in dire need of. But I'd be happy to give you a hug.
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July 16, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST
So glad we can all finally stop talking about this next week.
by Subtitles_Off
Glad it's rewarded the investment for those of you, um, for which it has, uh-sorta. Whatever. I never could get into the first one, but I stuck around for two or three more out of loyalty for my favorite little people. (I've asked before and could never be bothered to remember: Which one is the one where Gary Oldman shows up? I mean, seriously, "I point my animated, electricity-ish effect at you, while you point yours at me" all blends into one, big, meaningless blur.) I asked one of those favorite little people, now a High School senior, which movie he was seeing this weekend, and he told me he was going camping with friends and hoping to get the unchaperoned attention of a certain girl. See? It didn't ruin an entire generation.
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There are no dragons. Well, besides the komodos. They're D-I-N-Os. Thank you, science.
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anyone saying they thought it sucked is either an idiot, a bitter nancy, or just wants to be a dickhead about it... This movie is pretty much universally loved by critics and fans alike EXCEPT the same dildos on this site that hate everything....
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July 16, 2011, 2:17 p.m. CST
Real fantasy, I would think, is something that fires up the imagination with new ideas.
by Subtitles_Off
Geek fantasy just keeps repeating the same old s#!t over and over. I wonder, will the shy boy ever face his fears and triumph? When will Good and Evil just get drunk together and cuddle, compromising afterwards, realizing there aren't really any stakes all that huge which merited all their silly games? When the Fate of Everything is always in the hands of kids or bodybuilders, Everything doesn't stand a fucking chance.
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Gee after 10 + years he finally kills Voldermort and thats it! No moment of emotion! No celebration! No moment of crying for his losses or any emotion at all! Just walks into the castle dum dee dum dee dumb oh I killed him no one need to rejoice or thank me or for me to show anything even relief! Just hug Hagrid and explain how easy it was to get the elder wand and go forward 19 years later! I mean come on this is the moment we've all been waiting for people! Wouldn't you at least cry or say Thank God its over!!! wouldn't you show it!!!! Come on!!!!!!!
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That would require the entire universe. That'd be quite a bit more than 92 million. Get over yourself. Hey, don't get me wrong: I'm glad if this gathers up more money than TRANSFORMERS or STUPIDHERO A, B, or C. I hope it has a grand time, blowing its wad all over the pile of cash that will be used, eventually, to make more TRANSFORMERS and STUPIDHERO movies. I just wonder why you care so much about money that isn't yours and how it makes me an everything-hating douche when I don't?
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July 16, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST
Professor_Bedlam, how old are theses kids supposed to be?
by Subtitles_Off
You ever see a High School or college kid who wanted to be seen crying in front of mommy? Maybe you needed dancing teddy bears? Or, maybe, Harry Potter could've walked backwards for forty minutes, saying goodbye to all the hobbits and fairies? You wanna cry at a movie? Rent MAKE WAY FOR TOMORROW from Netflix. The only response that is appropriate for the ending of Harry Potter is, "(sigh) Finally."
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July 16, 2011, 2:35 p.m. CST
Really! So you like to just see them stand there with there thumbs up there ass!
by Professor_Bedlam
wow No creative mind in you what so ever!!!!
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Thanks. And for the record, I'm making certain I only read the posts from genderbLender and not the impostor genderbender.
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Thumbs up their ass. Not creative. The usual hugging, crying, high-fiving, music-soaring clichés. Creative. Um, I know we've lowered the bar for creativity in celebration of the new Millennium, but Creativity just called Jon Favreau who just called Sylvester Stallone who just called Harry to say, "Creativity is getting fukking tired of limboing so low."
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July 16, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST
genderblender, you'll get used to it. It's only one of The Choppahs, anyway.
by Subtitles_Off
They're down to a pack of two or three. They gotta use multiple handles to become Legion. It's a sign that they can't deal with you. Tell them you hated BACK TO THE FUTURE, and they'll be incapacitated for a week.
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July 16, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST
so full of shit you must squeak going into a turn
by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead
how about an actual review? Solipsism is bad for you in the long run.
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July 16, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST
Potter has shattered the opening W/E record..
by AvadaKedavrainthearseohsnap
That was previously held by TDK @ around $156m Deathly hallows 2 is now @ $174.6m w/ another full day left in the weekend. I am prediciting that this movie could approach the $2b mark before its theatrical run concludes.
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Gee, it proves there are a whole lot of people who have invested into the Harry Potter, um, phenomenon. And? Fucking Jebus! Pick something important to care about. It doesn't have to be world hunger or an end to child abuse. Just something more substantial than the size of your favorite fantasy movie's bank account. Newsflash: Some dumb thing made a lot of money this week! (SPOILER: The above Newsflash was a trailer for next week's Newsflash.) It would've been interesting if HARRY POTTER 8 had opened to only $12 million. That it uses its IMAX-sized 3-D strap-on to rape ten times that out of a horny public isn't interesting, at all.
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But...fantasy isn't real...it's fantasy. So the term "real fantasy" is kinda silly. That's like saying "fake non-fiction" What are some examples of real fantasy that doesn't pit good against evil or have someone overcoming some challenge anyways?
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Fuck talkbackers. Fuck choppah. Fuck catchtheman. Fuck MJ. Fuck genderblender. Fuck genderbender. Fuck believers. Fuck atheists. Fuck whiners. Fuck complainers. Fuck philosophy. Fuck religion. None of it's going to matter in five years anyway. Fuck it. Most of all, though, keep fucking thatchicken.
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One day I will make it on the Fuck You list with you Chopper...one day...
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July 16, 2011, 4:33 p.m. CST
Harry watches entire Sherlock Holmes series but still doesn't know whodunnit
by melonman
Fat ginger cunt
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July 16, 2011, 4:41 p.m. CST
"quote it, party with it and I most definitely plan on raising a family" - No you're not Harry you fat fuck
by melonman
You'll be in the fucking grave soon you lying sack of cunt shit
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You mean wike Batman?
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July 16, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST
No. I mean wike how many widdle retards waff at yor widdle stupid dick jokes, fukkhead.
by Subtitles_Off
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It was good. My wife and I will probably see it again before it leaves theaters. Everything else doesn't make a shit of difference.
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July 16, 2011, 7:14 p.m. CST
Overall a satisfying ending to the series.
by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS
But it could have done with a bit more celebrating at the end and the nub nub song.
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Overall, I don't think anyone could ask for a better Potter movie. Not unless they don't like Harry Potter in general, in which case they shouldn't even bother seeing it.<P> It was all there, emotional highs and lows, tragedy, and triumph. Exactly what a summer tent-pole film should be.
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Oh hey Harry, good to see you. Anyway...
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I spent ten minutes writing why this movie was disappointing and your piece of shit talkback structure and amateurish website (which should be fixed by now; ae you webmasters this fucking lazy they haven't fixed the site's problems after 6 months?), erased EVERYTHING. I hold you responsible. Get your fucking act together. I'm sick of my writing being erased by your preschool level-indifference to your website's problems. Now onto the topic at hand: Voldy and Snape were great, the pacing was off in many scenes, Neville's hero moment was neutered, the Molly/Bellatrix scene felt tacked on and was amateurishly shot, Voldemort's end was confusing and extremely weak. It's good but not great. And why settle for just bring good when you have thr ability to be better? Fuck this. It will get great reviews bc "oooooh, it's the last Harry Potter, so everything about this is GREAT!" but everyone will look past some terrible storytelling to focus on emotional responses, just like you. Maybe in a year they'll realize what a disappointment this is. And maybe in 3 years you'll finally fix this fucking website and all it's damn problems.
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And pissed off (as anyone would rightly be after having website code erase their message).
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Are you a fan of Ministry?
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Look, usually I'm not one to complain about technical issues or the delivery method of content because I really don't care, but this truncating of posts is really effecting the quality of your product here.. I mean, yes we know the way the site works (or doesn't) ultimately doesn't matter because ultimately nobody fucking COMES HERE for any sort of real content or "Cool News". Look, it doesn't have to be said the only reason 98.6% of the people who visit this site is for the other people, to be entertained and exposed to new ideas and perceptions and be opened to seeing things in a way they never thought of before, and to give back and share their own ideas and passions about what THEY love. If anybody wants cool news, all they have to do is go see what's trending on fucking Yahoo, and maybe a couple days later it'll become Cool News. You yourself, as well as all the contributors (except maybe Copernicus) really are meaningless, and only exist as a springboard for discussion or expression of personal derision against said contributor. I suppose there's a few people that come here legitimately for your own personal thoughts and feelings on a film, but those people are kind of like "vapid grandma" people, those people in society who just kind of float around in a haze with a blank happy stare and living in some weird happy fluff floaty world and only existing due to society's "understanding", aren't they? Visitors really only need to read one review of a "blockbuster" film here, because there all essentially the same and are usually bland and value-less, although you have some real doozies. The REAL information and opinions and feelings people are after is gleamed and discovered in the talkbacks, and you seemingly appear to be content in not acknowledging the problem and letting your technical issue bullshit hamper and repress that. Just an opinion.
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July 16, 2011, 9:50 p.m. CST
Thank God you don't write or work on movies Subtitles_off
by Professor_Bedlam
So you want to have no emotional connection or accountability with the audience just a sigh! No wonder why your on here! You have no imagination or heart to write or know what a compelling and climactic would be in your mind!
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July 16, 2011, 9:52 p.m. CST
by the way sub where was the sigh of relief in the movie Oh yeah that wasn't conveyed either in the end!!!!
by Professor_Bedlam
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I don't hold the books in as high esteem as others. I think Rowling fucked up more than she resolved. However, I thought this movie really ended things on a high note. Every scene worked for me, even scenes that didn't work for me in the book. Was far better than the atrocious boredom of Part 1. I've enjoyed most of the Potter films, with Azkaban, Half-Blood Prince, and Hallows Part 2 being my favorites.
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It's Batman...and he looks battered, beaten and scared. Actually very unsettling.
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July 16, 2011, 10:57 p.m. CST
I see that a lot "Why be happy with good, it could have been perfect"
by Smartacus
It's a bullshit thing to say. Sure you say "It could have been better" but nobody is deluding themselves into thinking that's what you mean. You mean "It could have been perfect" because nothing short of perfect is going to please most of you. No, it couldn't have been perfect. There is exactly zero chance that any adaptation from a TV series, book, comic book, Readers Digest article, toy line, Saturday morning cartoon, or set of novelty trading cards will reach the screen in anything close to perfection. There's maybe a sliver of a chance that some original film can reach that for a portion of its audience. Adaptations have no chance at all. At best they're good movies that give you glimpses into what you read about or imagined. This was a very good movie. The box office numbers this weekend reflect a widely held affection for the source material and the 7 preceding films. Those were also good to very good movies.
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Especially considering how hard it is to define "perfect". Just look at some of the people here claiming it was a perfect movie.
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Dont be stupid enough to assume the large box office gross for the first three nights means its a good widely loved movie. It just came out. That means a large number of people wanted to see it. Has nothing to do with quality, and if you draw a connection between those two factors, you're an idiot.
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July 17, 2011, 12:08 a.m. CST
Captain America will be the second coming of Daredevil, in both quality and BO. In other words....NEEAAHHYAWWWN.
by Jerry Piper
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I still like the Molly/Bellatrix scene but it does have a weird fucked up edit when it starts. Before Molly enters the fight it appears that Ginny is dueling Bellatrix and some sort of spell hit Ginny. Then it flashes to Bellatrix and back to Molly - and Ginny is now all of a sudden way at the back. How the fuck did she get back there so fast? In fact, if you look at what Bellatrix did to her...it kind of looks like she killed her - she's reacting similarly to how Sirius did when he died. As for Neville - I consider the film version to be an improvement over the book version. in a book, you can't really cut between two scenes very well, so one entire scene tends to play out in its entirety. Complaining about the snake scene would be like complaining that Peter Jackson innercut events in the Lord of the Rings movies. Because it was film version, Yates was able to create an intensity when Ron and Hermione were failing to kill the snake only to have Neville come in and save the day. Harry can't kill Voldemort until the snake is dead, so this is an excellent way to create a climax, because in the book, Voldemort's death is about the least climactic thing I've ever seen. I honestly can't believe anyone would consider Neville's role to be diminished from the book. As for the pacing, that's pretty subjective. It's still based on a book and apparently if they take ANY liberties with the book then people throw a fit (like Neville not killing the snake when it would have been the absolute most boring moment to do so). The battle isn't non-stop in the book. There are calm moments, and it's needed because in reality, there's not much battle at all (book or movie). It's paced similarly to most war movies. We Were Soldiers, Saving Private Ryan, Tak Guk Gi, etc. You fight...you rest....you fight....you rest.
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Honestly, it could be the next Iron Man. People may be clamoring for it. I have no idea. We'll see.
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The battle for Hogwarts should have been tense, edge of the seat stuff. But it wasn't. Far too much focus on Harry, Ron and Hermione. The battle was almost background stuff bar a couple of scenes. Shame.
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The battle WAS "background stuff".....do you even know why this battle took place? You obviously didn't read the books and chances are you're just some brainless dolt who thinks movies are only good when lots of stuff blows up.
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Harry is 'reviewing' again.
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The first two are very much kids movies, they are what they are. #6 is dull and uninvolving pretty much throughout, and missing the most crucial story stuff. And #4 I hated, despite the great dragon scene. Otherwise, it cut a ton of incredible action from the book out, and ruined the other set pieces by cutting them to shreds and losing the sense of spectacle. And then, as a whole, #4 just had an attitude to it... it felt almost like a Twilight type thing with the way it handled the romance. Just a bad film... Newell is a terrible director. Deathly Hallows probably is my favorite, but that's both films taken together as one piece.
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Mark my words, easily over 500 mil worldwide, EASY.
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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I love Ministry. STIGMATAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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July 17, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST
Uh genderblender plenty of trades/graphic novels are on the NYTimes list
by sunwukong86
Watchmen being one
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July 17, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST
Who else spends a significant portion of their Sunday expounding upon The Rocketeer's B.O.?
by D Ropaela
An overeducated, overbearing boor. If it wasn't clear the first time, genderbender, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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July 17, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST
I've had more success getting asimovlives conceding points than anyone has with genderbender.
by D Ropaela
She is like a petulant child with constant access to Wikipedia. There's no convincing her, no debate. She disdains each and every one of you. Why bother saying anything to her other than SHUT THE FUCK UP???
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July 17, 2011, 11:43 a.m. CST
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES teaser-trailer (I'm not a HARRY POTTER fan but finally saw TDKR teaser a few times)
by JDanielP
I believe it was Jim Gordon on the hospital gurney, roughly voicing the need for Batman in Gotham City, speaking to either Bruce Wayne ...OR... Batman. And yeah, after close examination of the teaser, Bane is going to be BIG (though not BATMAN: ARKHAM ASYLUM video game big)...and will be an effects standard at least equal to the transformation of Harvey Dent into Two-Face. Oh, yeah. Count me excited.
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July 17, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST
Big box office doesn't stop them from being AVERAGE KIDS FILMS!
by LORDOFLIGHT
So the film's broken all box office records. What a surprise! Seeing as these films are so vastly overhyped it doesn't surprise me. It just probably means a lot of people have been swept up by all the hype.
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Hey, I think we've finally found something Genderblender likes!
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July 17, 2011, 11:47 a.m. CST
No fucker will remember these films in a 100 years time.
by LORDOFLIGHT
Even 50, 30 or 20 years. Other classic films will be remembered but I bet people will realise one day that these films are only big cos of hype.
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Bedknobs and Broomsticks and Escape to Witch Mountain.
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...Gordon could have been speaking to anybody, with Bruce Wayne's response actually cut from an entirely separate scene. Heck, even Jim Gordon's voice could've been played over SOMEBODY ELSE on that hospital gurney. --And if Bruce Wayne WAS in the hospital with Gordon, it's possible he was not either Bruce or Batman in appearance, but rather in a disguise (with a mustache, as a police officer, whatever)...so the possibilities are endless. And it leaves enough room for any HUGE Batman fan to be very excited, upon close enough examination. I can already thank Nolan for that much.
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Shut the fuck up.
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Maybe then all the hype will have disappeared and all the people caught up in this Potter fog (which takes away rational thoughts in adults) will see Harry fuckin Potter for what it was all along. Nothing big, nothing special. Films to keep the kids from being hyperactive on a Saturday morning or afternoon. Maybe then all the adults who think they're reading Shakespeare or watching something epic will start reading or watching something with a bit more substance to it then.
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July 17, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST
Genderblender, you should retire after that cancer post...
by THE_CHOPPAH
no way you're going to top that for self importantly delivered small-hearted ignorance. I'm impressed.
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Shut the fuck up.
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July 17, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST
If genderbender were in Germany in the 1930s, she would have been an ardent, outspoken apologist for National Socialism.
by D Ropaela
You know, cuz it was popular, and nobody like democracy anymore.
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July 17, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST
@genderbender: Your arguments have more strawmen than a cornfield.
by D Ropaela
Shut the fuck up.
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July 17, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST
I bet some silly fuckers think HP's comparable to those gender.
by LORDOFLIGHT
Harry Potter's ok I suppose if you're introducing young kids (of about 5) to reading. And even though I see no problem with older kids still reading them (up to about 12)..............at least try and read something with more intelligence, depth and substance to it as well. Unfortunately people are so caught up in this Potter hype nonsense even these kids parents get caught up in this crap too.
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Overall a great series however 4 and 5 were pretty bad to me, especially Order of the Phoenix. It doesn't fit the tone of the series at all and was a major fuck up, probably due to Kloves taking a break from the series for some awful reason. Some people think it is the best but I dont see it. The best: Prizoner of Azkaban and Half Blood Prince. So my films in order: 3 6 8 2 1 7 4 5 But if the snape scenes of 8 had not been done so well it would have dropped down by 7 since the rest was underwhelming and rushed they needed 30 more minutes. 7 was likewise rushed and uneven, the blurry chase scenes are unforgiveable. 4 the challenges were very underwhelming and it is disjointed, like Order of the Phoenix however not as severe. They could make prequels of snape and Lilly or the founding of Hogwarts and of course sequels with Albus Severus but she will have to replenish her coffers sometime.
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Once more, how are there strawmen?
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Learn to read you fucking moron. I said "This was a very good movie. (new sentence) The box office numbers this weekend reflect a widely held affection for the source material and the 7 preceding films. (new sentence)Those were also good to very good movies." When the eighth film in a series comes out odds are incredibly good that a majority of the people paying to see it know what to expect. In this case those odds are even better since this final film is really just the second half of the seventh film. The only place I find cynical shits crying about how this film was a tragic failure is under bridges and in talkbacks. The source material enjoys widespread affection. That's a fact. The previous movies have all been very successful and well received by the general public. That's a fact. They love the shit out of this one too. That's a fact. I said it was a very good movie because I've seen it and enjoyed it. Nothing else regarding this really matters to me.
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July 17, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST
I have to ask: what exactly is wrong with Mary Poppins?
by david starling
Yes, its a Disney film, and it was made with regards to entertaining families - whole families. Yes, it may not appeal to all, and some of its values may be lost in this day and age, but its good nonetheless - and it is certainly a lot better than a lot of shit I have had to put up with on the big and small screen. I'm being really really REALLY naive here, so can I ask: is it a question of how cool you can be perceived, by how much you shout about how one movie is cool, and another sucks? Because if it is I think that's just plain shite. Goodness, I'll watch a movie I want to watch it, and if it really doesn't look that good, I'll just leave it. Too much to worry about, and its only a movie!! Goodness. Some of you act like J.K. Rowling wiped out your entire families or something.
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But for the life of me, I can't figure out why genderblender is so invested in it doing badly, or genre movies doing badly, or why kids shouldn't read Harry Potter novels. In short, I'm mystified why genderblender comes off like such a film snob/stuck-up ass. What, pray tell, big Summer popcorn movies do you prefer these days?
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July 17, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST
Whoa! I think I noticed a slip-up from genderblender. 'She' and 'thatchicken' appear to be the same TBer!
by THE_CHOPPAH
Look at this rapid succession of posts. Notice that 'thatchicken' responds to his/herself ... The short time-frame separating these posts, and the scrambling nature of them lead CHOPPAH to believe that genderblender/thatchicken is one in the same, posting under two different names in two different browsers. Jul 17, 2011 12:54:42 PM CDT @thatchicken - again, articulate? by genderblender How are there strawmen? Reply to Talkback Jul 17, 2011 12:57:24 PM CDT @thatchicken by thatchicken Once more, how are there strawmen? Reply to Talkback Jul 17, 2011 12:57:32 PM CDT @thatchicken National Soclaism by genderblender No, I wouldn't be an advocate of National Socialism. However, anyone CLAMORING for it at the time should have been welcome to experience it - for themselves - firsthand, with none of the rest of us suffering their idiocy. SO, if the German people had demanded it, then I would have said, absolutely, let THEM have it, but don't foist it on anyone who doesn't want it. Then, when they were starving and had no clean water, and were clamoring to the west for aid, I would have said, no, no aid, you wanted this. Enjoy. Then this half-hearted post from 'thatchicken,' who, after having played the idiotic, barely articulate alpha-male foil to genderblender, hasn't been heard from since ... Jul 17, 2011 12:57:49 PM CDT Oops. by thatchicken Now that's a pretty sloppy cover-up for someone as usually sharp (in her own way) as genderblender. Allow me to pat myself on the back, since you have been CHOPPED.
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July 17, 2011, 1:56 p.m. CST
Genderblender: the base arrogance of fangeeks in the face of the success of IRON MAN and DARK KNIGH
by Mattman
You know Genderblender, while I don't agree with much of your well presented argument, you have a point there. When Hollywood finally gives fanboys what they want, and it becomes a huge success, they turn on it with no loyalty whatsoever. I fucking despise that about the geek community. I think you might be wrong about Cap's box office though. I think it might perform spectacularly. And you know what? I think many of the geeks will turn on it after it has received mass appeal, as they do with anything. We'll see. While I don't hate my own kind as much as you seem to, I do share some of your disgust, and I understand where it comes from.
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July 17, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST
Actually, I take back that CHOP, genderblender/thatchicken.
by THE_CHOPPAH
Rather, I say 'Brava!'
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Oh, indeed, many geeks were arrogant after those two very good, not great, blockbusters. But then ... that's many, not all. genderbender deals in generalizations, even though he/she/it have good points. Very seductive. I'd watch my wang if I were you.
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After spending numerous years on this site I finally decided to create my own review site for a laugh called cocaineandpopcorn. There not much on it but I did review Harry Potter http://cocaineandpopcorn.com/harrypotter8.html Its not my best piece of writing but guys drop by and let me know what you think It would be great if Harry would post on my review
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There are some who present well rounded criticism of Dark Knight (yourself) but the majority of geeks crusade against it simply because it gained popularity.
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I don't care how much it made or didn't make. That means nothing to me, honestly. Twilight made was a huge success. Does that make it a better film than Rocketeer? Fuck no.
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The loudest ones tend to be more extreme, as we've witnessed firsthand in this thread. And, frankly, there are plenty of outspoken defenders of TDK who absolutely refuse to acknowledge any flaws. I still know plenty of geeks, in 'real' life as well as on other sites, that still think TDK is the bee's knees.
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Talkbackers are a vicious lot. As for TDK's flaws, I will always refute what I think people MISTAKE for flaws (or bend into a flaw in order to shape their argument). However, Dark Knight is not a perfect film ("Things are worse than EVAAAR now!")
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But that's half the fun. As for the other half ... well, I haven't quite figured that out yet.
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Uh... no they didn't. One thing about fanboys is when something DOES beat their cynicism, then they love it to no end and there are no faults and they take everything personally. This idea that fanboys are cynics is incorrect. Fanboys are extremists. Everything is either crap or brilliant art. There is no middle ground. There isn't even a "it's great but obviously far from perfect." It's either great art that will last for millenia - like anyone can predict that - or it's worse than what they crap out in the toilet. THAT'S what I hate about fanboys. Like take HP 7 pt 2. I think it'd be hard to argue this film is crap. It's not. It's great summer entertainment. But I could fill pages with all the problems, especially regarding pacing and off screen deaths and a lack of focus on other characters and the very odd stuff when Harry first gets back to Hogwarts (lock Slytherin in the dungeon, really?) or the coincidence of Harry and co. being there JUST as Snape is dealing with Voldy or... or... or... I liked it a ton. It's not perfect art. It doesn't need to be. I was greatly entertained, it was emotionally investing, and obviously some of the complaints people have - well, it's part 8 of 8. We had the build up, especially in the very underrated 7 Part 1, it's go time now. Very few things are truly to the extremes fanboys make them. For example, if you read fanboys response to my opinion of The Dark Knight, you'd think I hated the film, when in fact I near loved it, I just thought the massive amounts of plot holes and the weak 3rd act kept it from being truly great in my mind. And Iron Man's a lot of fun, but the story is pretty by the numbers and weak. It's not flawless, but it's very enjoyable and gets a lot right. Or Hell, take a non-fanboy film like The Tree of Life, which has some serious editing problems and mistakes (like revealing a death and the emotion associated with it waaayyyyy too early), but it's still one of the most original, bold and fascinating films I've ever seen. Even the idea of constantly having to "review" and categorize and predict how a film will be perceived years down the line RIGHT after seeing it mystifies me. I remember when The Two Towers came out, a few people didn't like it (not me - it was my fav of the movies) and they were told, "WELL WHAT DO YOU KNOW... THIS FILM WILL BE WATCHED AND LOVED FOR 100s OF YEARS, WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE???" Like... really, people seriously said shit like that. It's embarrassing, really, and makes fanboys sound even worse than extremist political discussions (Obama is worst President ever! No, Bush is! Obama! Bush! Obama! Bush!)
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Is probably a 60 year old man with weight issues... the best "trolls" (as in ones that actually deserve a response) are good because they actually bring up good points, but then FUCK WITH YOU on them and see what they can get you to say. Quite amusing, really. Except for racist shit or spam, I've never really minded so-called trolls on the Internet... they're easy to ignore if you want, and people act like it's some big crime. It's not. The worst is when people are so fucking earnest in their ignorance, usually regarding thinking an opinion can be a fact. Like, "If you didn't cry at X... then you don't have a heart." Or, "only a troll could dislike this movie!" Reminds me of The Passion of the Jew. "You can't not like The Passion!!"
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Brilliant novel, could make a brilliant movie if it was split into two halves and made by someone with a true vision for the story.
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That Salamander passage cracked me up. It's true, BUT you are talking about the very worst the sci-fi section has to offer. As with anything, there are gems, and those should be celebrated, rather than abandoning the entire genre. I would not abandon Ender's Game. I would not abandon A Game of Thrones. I would not abandon Dune. All of these books care more about telling a story than they do about the genre. The genre simply provides a fantastic setting in which to convey those stories. When i see a Warhammer book, I avoid it. I already know what to expect from it, and I know I don't want to read it. EVERY genre has a boatload of shit to sift through. I do understand your disgust with the community. But that doesn't mean the genre should be obliterated just because it is abused. If only ONE good story existed in the sci-fi fantasy section, that would be enough to justify its existence.
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July 17, 2011, 2:32 p.m. CST
"Explain the difference between a Republic and a Democracy?
by Winston Smith
Technically a republic is a form of democracy. That's like saying, "what's the difference between a game and football?" And by the way Americans, it's way too broad to say we're a democracy. We're a constitutional republic, a representative democracy, by DESIGN. America is about checks and balances. This attempts to keep everyone in check, even the "masses" which can be manipulated and can be wrong.
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July 17, 2011, 2:33 p.m. CST
CAPTAIN AMERICA may still do pretty well, but I can't see it opening No. 1 next week.
by THE_CHOPPAH
If POTTER manages to slip 60% in N. America next weekend, which it won't because it has an A from Cinemascore and great word of mouth, it would still rake in $68 million. Maybe, MAYBE CAP would come close to it, but I doubt it. POTTER has effectively sucked the oxygen out of the movie buzz arena. CAP may end up being SHERLOCK HOLMES to POTTER's AVATAR, and that ain't such a bad thing, really. CHOPPAH predix for next weekend (N. America): 1. POTTER: $75 million 2. CAP: $60 million
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I only said that because I seem to have caught you in some sock puppetry with 'thatchicken.' As halfbreedqueen2 said, the best trolls are effective because they argue something so well and then fuck with you about it. So ... pardon me if I have reason to doubt. Still, this is a fun game we're playing. I enjoy this. Indeed, perhaps one day you'll show me yours and I'll show you mine. And there won't be a gender studies textbook in the world that will help us understand what will then happen. So, ; ) right back atcha.
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July 17, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST
Actually, lemme revise that POTTER number for next weekend.
by THE_CHOPPAH
It'll probably be closer to $80 million to $85 million, domestically. Apologies.
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If it gets good word of mouth, it may open to $60 and then ride the relatively uncompetitive wave of august.
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We open with a scene showing wizards blowing shit up and fighting, with Dumbledore narrating. Then, we cut to Harry Potter, who's parents are douchebags. He's an all-American kid. Harry goes to Hogwarts and meets Ron (who in Bay's adapatation is a black ginger boy), "this is bangin'" says Ron as they meet. Then they meet Hermione, she's bent over, leaning over a table reading a book, Harry tries not to look at her ass. "Oh...she says", "could you help me fill this in, its a double paragraph spell", says Hermione, as a breeze lifts her skirt, the ornage light of the candles glistens over her slender back and her golden hair. Harry looks awkward. Ron says "that's some smokin' hot ass", but Hermione blows him off. Dumbledore reveals to Harry that Voldemort killed his parents. Dumbledore wisely declares that "we will kill them all", and later reveals that he allowed Harry's parents to die "so you would understand that these fuckers have to be killed." Unable to defeat Voldemort themselves, Dumbledore calls in the US army who blow shit up and do most of the action. Lots of big fights ensue, with Harry saying "nonononono!" and "gogogogogogo!" endlessly. We also see lots of shots of Hermione's hot body, especially during the "nudus fastus" spell scene. We also see a Hypogriffin fucking an owl, because its funny.
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People, when they hear that, assume you're talking about direct democracy. Technically the US is a democracy. It's a representative democracy. And then under that term, representative democracy, we are a constitutional republic. So basically... we're a democracy. Citizens have a say in their government. More specifically, we're a representative democracy. We elect people to make many of the decisions for us, rather than voting on every single bill and collectively writing bills and doing the work of the government (which would be impossible in any large sized government, Madison, I believe, even said that direct democracies become weaker and weaker the larger a country becomes). And then within that, we're a constitutional republic, meaning that we elect people in, it's not based on heritage or anything else, and we don't have a monarch. And these people elected in are bound by the rules of the constitution that cannot easily be changed, and in fact cannot be changed by any single entity, including that of the "common voice" unless than also verified by multiple branches of government. Checks and balances. But technically to say America is a democracy is not wrong, it's just very unspecific, like saying, "we're going out to play a game" but not saying what the game is. Football, Chess, Dungeons & Dragons? There's a wide variety.
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An occasional zesty hate hump is good way to stay in touch with your feelings ... and keep shit in perspective.
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Phonus Hackidimus!
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Sure, it's formulaic, but it has its own charms. Not the least of which is Diane Lane. And, my, what a pair of charms she has!
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I'd really like to know. I would say that we got better mysteries at some points in the past than we do now, better romantic comedies, better screwball comedies, better war films, better horror, and better social commentary dramas...but we definitely did NOT get better fantasy. In fact, fantasy is probably the one genre of film that's currently in its golden age.
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That'd be like Batman without the "Bat".
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Sometimes you freak me out Harry. That's quite a weird thing to say in so many, many, many ways. I feel a bit dirty reading that. Aye, I know you wrote an infamous review of Blade 2 that'll have sexual therapists debating what it says about you for years and that's fine - Blade's about vampires, vampires are about sex. Aye, I know that you giggle at the drop of a hat and get very emotionally involved at the drop of a hat and that's fine. I cried when Doug McClure died because nobody fights dinosaurs better than he did. I get all that but to have some desire to see characters from a children's series have anything resembling a R Rated life. No man, that's just wrong.
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CHOPPAH serves two undeniable powers in this existence: 1. CHOPPAH 2. Pudenda
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wink wink
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I'm pretty sure the makers of Real Steel came out of The Fighter saying, "Let's make that movie... with ROBOTS! We can't lose!"
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http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/thorin-2048x1536.jpg
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I 've seen all the potter movies including the last one, i like them but thats all, just like, i don't love these movies. Im about the same age as Harry but the potter movies came into existance when i was already a man not a boy, so the wonder element never captured me like star wars or indy did. My love will for those movies i mentioned plus a few others, i'm sure the kids of today will revere potter as much as us oldies revere star wars etc Deathly hallows 2 was far better than pt 1 but i didnt think it was the best in the series, i still think The Half blood prince is the best all rounder in this series but others will no doubt disagree. 7.5/10
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So if you're saying that this is the golden age of fantasy because of HP then you're wrong. Real epic fantasy is stuff like LOTR (which was never intended for kids) or the Elric series.
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It's like the tsunami never happened.
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Is a plumber that I know - he's not great at hios job but still very much alive and well and doing substandard plumbing. So whoever it was that wanted to rain vitriol on his talents - well, I'll give you his number. I saw the comment scrolling down and never really took note of who wrote it. Dave Stevens - he wasn't a plumber but he is dead. Seriously, if you are going to level concise arguments why you dislike someone's work then get their name right. It's only polite.
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Then shut the fuck up, you clearly don't know shit about what you're talking. I don't have kids, either, but you don't see me making dumbass statements like "raising kids is easy." Clearly it's not. If it was then there wouldn't be so many shitty parents out there. And clearly it's not if you've ever worked with children, as I have as a teacher. It's not easy. Most things in life that are worthwhile are not easy. You, on the other hand, are being fed. I'm feeding the troll!
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See what I did there?
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You don't get to CHOOSE what your kid is interested in. This is the greatest mistake parents make, thinking that their kid isn't ANOTHER person separate from them. You sound like you'll be one of those awful parents, and your kid will have mommy (or daddy, depending) issues for the rest of their lives. Already wishing for one sex over the other... yeah... but raising kids is easy, of course. You just whip them, tell them what to think, and tell 'em not to be dim and shit. And then they turn out just fine. IT'S THAT SIMPLE!
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July 17, 2011, 7:12 p.m. CST
Lordoflight, the LOTR films and the HP films are contemporaneous.
by FluffyUnbound
I'm including the LOTR films in the golden age of fantasy film. Seriously, unless you're a teenager there's NO TIME between 2001 (the release date of Fellowship) and now for a golden age to start and end. 2001 is part of our current era. 2001 is yester-fucking-day in terms of the history of film.
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Yes, but the plot holes in DK weakened its thematic power for me. A lot of its ideas felt half-assed. I thought Zodiac was a far more interesting film about "the nature of terrorism, savagery versus civilization, our modern efforts to combat terrorism and the ultimate futility of it but also the need to do it, the nature of virtue, the nature of vice, SO many things". I mean, serial killers are terrorists, at least the Zodiac was... he INSTILLED terror in people. That's why people became obsessed with that case. Zodiac is one of the best examples I've seen of a theme working itself naturally into a story in a film ever.
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July 17, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST
2001 is yester-fucking-day in terms of the history of film.
by Winston Smith
Amen. Filmmaking of today and 2001 is very similar. I'm not talking about 3D or digital or the tech, more just the way stuff is shot and cut and the feel of filmmaking. Also interesting, because of fashion and style and general mood, a lot of films from the 1970s now feel VERY contemporary. I just watched Alien on blu last night, that movie could have been made yesterday pretty much.
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July 17, 2011, 8:05 p.m. CST
As an Alan Rickman fan, I must say that I am waiting for...
by Longtime Lurker
The blooper reel. There has just GOT to be a blooper in which Snape yells at Harry----POTTER! I'M GOING TO CUT YOUR HEART OUT WITH A SPOON!!!! :)
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Hey, my wife wanted to catch it again. We saw it Friday night in a packed theater and when it ended a pretty good number of them applauded (which I always find odd after a movie but whatever). Today we saw it at the same theater that was again packed and again watched as a majority of those attending applauded when it ended. It is what it is. I am so looking forward to Captain America and will check that out next weekend but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it come in second if Deathly Hallows is still rolling along like this. If Captain America comes in second next week then I think Deathly Hallows may have some serious legs.
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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! First cancer, and now child rearing... If you can somehow combine the two into one post, I'll drop everything I'm doing and impregnate you with a malignant little bastard right here and now.
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ITS TRUE READ IT ON FOX NEWS
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Genderb(l)ender is a troll. An intelligent troll who hides her true motives behind discussions about the real meanings of intelligence, fantasy, horror, and what makes a fanboy/geek a fanboy/geek along with thoughtful insults directed at everyone who shares different likes than her. ... But it's painfully obvious this is all just baiting to get an emotional response and attention. Replying to her is just feeding the troll. Though you may think she cares about what you have to say, she wouldn't make such extreme and biased statements if she was truly as wise as her actions lead you to believe. With your attempts to engage In civil discourse, you're just encouraging her and feeding her in the long run. She's not interested in discussion and debate, merely emotional reactions to give her a rise.
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Then I'm happy to oblige. I like nothing more than intelligent debate and discussion about film here on AICN, though that rarely happens and when it does it's only with a specific group of talkbackers. If you want to be taken seriously, I have this advice: stop making insults and tired, generic blanket statements based off old stereotypes in regards to most talkbackers (fanboy/geeks) here who don't share your ideals about what makes true fantasy or horror or scifi, people who read comic books and Harry Potter and enjoy genre films (and in the end have zero effect on you and others). It makes you look petty and immature and is incongruous with your conspicuous attempt to appear more learned and wise than the rest of us. A truly wise person wouldn't act so ridiculously, actively hoping and instigating the failure of certain movies (Tintin, Captain America, etc) just to hurt and disappoint a subgroup of the population you claim to not like. It means either A) you're immature and petty or B) you're trying hard to get an emotional reaction out of those youre writing to and about (ie, trolling). Or even C) a fanboy/geek really hurt your feelings in the past. Because a lot of your actions reek of an attempt of vengeance on the community as a whole ("You like Captain America? I can't wait for it to fail!!!"). It's childish. It's trollish. If you're better than that, and your writing seems to imply you believe you are, I don't think you'd engage in such behavior because it's so petty and childish. So if you want to convince me that you're not a troll, you know what you need to change. And for the record, if you don't want your nieces and nephews to watch tv, you don't call your cable company asking them to help you with parental control so you can turn every channel off, you just unplug the damn thing. Easier and more efficient. Less time listening to them having a tantrum too.
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... Then I doubt you'd spend so much time trying to insult them. That's trollish behavior. If thats not your intention, I'd like to see something that suggests otherwise.
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And typing on an iPhone. Please forgive any and all typos and hard to understand sentiments.
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No. It's harder.
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July 17, 2011, 10:21 p.m. CST
As the proud father of 12 children (that I'm aware of),
by THE_CHOPPAH
I can say that being a parent is the most rewarding, enjoyable, exciting job I've ever had. It's also tantamount to pulling your groin once or twice a day.
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July 17, 2011, 10:38 p.m. CST
Being a parent isn't as hard as parents say
by Charlie_Sheens_Coke_Numbed_Penis
The working title of Casey Anthony's new autobiography!
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Good one!
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You REALLY need to follow that rabbit hole STL introduced you to last week.... Go on and take the red pill... You won't regret it
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Seems he started up his trolling "experiment" again.
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Lady Fishus... That's my working hypothesis as of now...
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How can anyone respect women? I mean, really? Chicks? Seriously, I get that childbirth hurts and all...but, Blenderbabe...you never even experienced that part, so...as you are just being female, quietly just fuck the fuck off... Okay? Let the grown up talk, sweetie...
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You're very clearly a great child psychologist, and indeed if only everyone raised kids as you would, this world wouldn't have so many goddamn problems!
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July 18, 2011, 1:24 a.m. CST
Just saw the movie and I am flabbergasted by it's greatness.
by Jerry Piper
I've never read the books, so maybe it changes things. Who cares. I thought it was the best movie of the year, even better than Midnight In Paris.
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July 18, 2011, 1:25 a.m. CST
Finally, a Potter better than Azkeban. Thought it would never happen.
by Jerry Piper
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July 18, 2011, 5:01 a.m. CST
Harry has finished the HARRY POTTER series with HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS Pt 2!
by aleph_null
As opposed to what?
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phhhhht
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http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/avengers-teaser-trailer/ I just watched this like 10 times.
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How the fuck did Luna end up in the Room Of Requirement?
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July 18, 2011, 9:08 a.m. CST
wow avengers teaser leaked..and AICN still not posted it yet.
by knowthyself
Kudos kapr1. Talkbacks provide way more news than the actual site does.
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My girl & I saw HP7pt2 yesterday and really enjoyed it. Never read the books, so, I only know the films, but, I really enjoyed Parts 1 & 2 of "The Deathly Hallows". Amazing that we were able to see this cast from the first film through the final moments of this final film. I don't always agree with Harry (Knowles), but, I appreciate that he wears his heart on his sleeve.
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It is amazing that the original three lasted for all eight films.
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Another example of the bad storytelling to be found in this movie. You'd think Harry and co. would have been surprised to see her there. "Didn't we leave you at Shell Beach yesterday?"
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Word to Big Bird... Looks pretty awesome although noticeable absence of a certain Green guy.
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How did your domestic box office predictions for Harry Potter hold up? What was it again, something like 32 million? Great call dip shit. Can't wait to see more of your trolling prophetic rants fall flat on their face. P.S. I'm sure there are plenty of kids who developed a love of the written word from Harry Potter who read things other than Charlie Bone. And even if their tastes don't live up to your lofty standards it's still better that they ready crappy YA novels than stare at a TV all fucking day. You may return to your Oreo induced hate comma now.
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July 18, 2011, 10:16 a.m. CST
Sarah P.'s "Undefeated" beats Potter for #1 Weekend gross
by mcgoocain
It's true! in On only 10 screens! I just heard it on Fox News! Sarah made more money with her new movie than Harry Potter! President Palin, please! This proves that there is a God and all the magic in the world won't help you liberals! So there, lousy Rotten Tomatoes giving the movie a zero rating! Suck it! Anyone who doesn't like this movie probably eats French Fries and not Freedom Fries! Ha!
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I had to deduct half a star because Hermione didn't take off her clothes after coming out of the lake. What a cocktease of a scene! Otherwise, best HP ever.
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July 18, 2011, 10:25 a.m. CST
SARAH PALIN IS ADEPT AT BATTLING WITCHCRAFT AND SORCERY, MCGOOSKI
by BSB
She's immune against the magic arts. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CC8QtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Diwkb9_zB2Pg&ei=RFAkTtb8Co210AGul82rAw&usg=AFQjCNEbfTwdq9vF1JpQgn6H93LyqYUJGw&sig2=IbpSHhmqTuSDFC5zckz3GQ
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IMDB gives Sarah Palin a 1.5 star rating. What does this mean? It means people think her new movie is just as good as "Manos: The Hands of Fate," but not as good as "Anus Magillicutty." I personally thought that "The Undefeated" is every bit as good as "Anus Magillicutty", maybe even a little better. So there!
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I know what you're talking about. I had to get my wife to fill in some blanks, but I think the storytelling in this installment was much better than in past movies. The Snape flashback was especially touching. I think it could've used an extra 5 to 10 minutes of Hogwarts battling, and a longer ending like ROTK's, but it was still an extremely satisfying movie. Which I sadly cannot say for the last few.
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Movie could have definitely used another 10-15 minutes between the Battle for Hogwarts and with Snape's flashback. I was disappointed. Glad you liked it though. You didnt read the books, right?
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You say Sarah P. is "...immune against the magic arts." Yeah but can she perform a gay exorcism and bake cookies, at the same time? If she can't, then it's Michelle Bachmann all the way? When is Michelle's new movie coming out? I saw her last one, called "I'm Flaky, So What? - I Still Got Elected!" and it was pretty cool... but kinda left you hanging, wanting more...
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I didn't read the books, no. But I can understand how someone who did would want more. This could very easily have been a 3 hour movie. Again, I thought the Snape flashback was great, but more would've been better. I'd been let down by the series since pretty much Half Blood Prince, but now I really want to watch it again from the beginning and focus on the nuances in Snape and Dumbledore's characters that led to this finale. I can't wait to see this again. This movie will have legs, for sure.
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I dunno know if Palin can perform gay exorcisms, but I done heard that Michelle Bachmann's husband - a psychologist - is an expert in the field ... http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/58741.html I like my pie crust flaky, not my President's. Sorry Michelle!
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That is all.
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July 18, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST
bsb ALL-CAPS bitch, Michelle Bachmann's husband is a flaming closet case!
by uberfreak
You just have to listen to him speak. LMFAO! My gaydar went off about 3 seconds in. And I am not slamming gays here... 1 out of 10 people are born gay as are you bsb you fucking faggot (note: not faggot as in gay but as in the South Park version of faggot).
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A pig? Yes! But, not a misogynist. No one likes vag more than The Choppah!
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July 18, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST
Michelle Bachman's husband is as queer as the day is long
by THE_CHOPPAH
Queerer still. As queer as a day on Uranus. (No pun intended.)
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July 18, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST
I believe that, were this movie truly the second coming of Christ as Harry would have us believe...
by ATrue
...this TB would still be discussing it, rather than subjecting visitors to ludicrous, self-righteous blather on the disciplining of children and references to Sarah Palin. Who the fuck ARE you people?
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July 18, 2011, 1:39 p.m. CST
The back of a bottle of shampoo offers more riveting, stimulating content than The_Choppah's posts
by Mattman
That's why I spend 2 hours in the shower every day. Today, my shampoo bottle and I will be discussing the lack of Catwoman in the Dark Knight Rises trailer.
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But every once in a while he gets sober.
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Gee, your hair smells terrific!
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I've read the book more than once and it's terrible. Rowling has too much power. Her editor should have told her to cut half the shit out of the last 3 books.
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I feel sorry for her vagina!
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The Choppah has his detractors for sure, but he also has a lot of TBers who enjoy his disjointed brand of pointlessness. You on the other hand have no friends or supporters in these TBs. The Choppah was one of the few who enjoyed your psychotic malignancy, but you burned that bridge. It's not too to late turn it around, however. All you have to do is kiss The Choppah's ring and all is forgiven.
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That poor woman had no fucking clue what she was going to do with any of those characters after book #5. She had a world-class runaway train on her hands, and was under WAY too much pressure by then to just work on it. The publishers would never have allowed it of course, but what she really should have done was taken at LEAST another year, and figured out her ultimate endgame... but maybe even that wouldn't have mattered. It was clear throughout the whole series that the best parts of the stories were the parts where Harry was happy and had friends... she liked the smaller vignettes. As far as The Big Picture went, she clearly only had a loose outline and never stopped to fill it in before the whole thing got away from her. Which is a shame, because the last book was an unmitigated disaster, IMO. Really, though, I think it's totally unfair to compare the movies to the books, really in any way. The people all up in arms about the changes the directors made are assuming that the movies are actually trying to be faithful in any real way to the books, and they're not, they proved that from minute one by botching some of the smallest, easiest-to-adapt details. These movies should really only be judged as movies, stand-alone, separate from the books.
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July 18, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST
I think genderbender is feeling the hyenas of AICN closing in around her.
by DoctorWho?
Sure, she posts some stupid shit...but no more stupid than most of the idiocy here. Hey gender, just hijack a thread...any thread...and steer it into some obsessive rant about Sarah Palin and you'll be back in good graces with the "cool kids". *<p> Translation: The jocks and bullies with the macho-bullshit attitudes won't beat you up anymore.<p> You're welcome.
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She's got some BALLS calling The Choppah out. (Literally and figuratively!) She's lucky The Choppah is in a good mood today and has a soft spot for psycho chicks. As I type, The Choppah's kicking back right now in an undisclosed location with a bottle of Courvoisier and my new lady friend, Casey Anthony.
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Give that bitch Casey a stinging, open-hand smack on her bare ass for me. Ya know...from one misogynist to another ;)
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I believe Braindrain has transported his wit and wisdom exclusively to Twitter where his inane posts make him come across as an intellectual giant among the mental midgets. The 40 characters are less format was made for braindead fools like him. Can't confirm it however as he banned me as a follower long ago. I do sort of miss him from time to time. It's nice to have an easy target to use as a punching bag when you need a cheap and quick lift to your spirits.
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But Sarah P. has a new movie out this week with her co-star Jerry Lewis- and it is headed to No. 1 at the B.O. What better time than now to comment on the best movie of the year, so far? Oh and genderwhatever- the goblinknightlex does what you aspire to do - but with so much more of an amped up boredom factor- you should aspire to his past glories of irrelevance.
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July 18, 2011, 4:31 p.m. CST
But Sarah P. has a new movie out this week with her co-star Jerry Lewis- and it is headed to No. 1 at the B.O.
by DoctorWho?
THAT'S GREAT...<p> So wait for the obligatory Herc post on the subject and jerk off until your face turns blue.
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genderwhatever just strings together a bunch of analytical insult cliches and considers it insight. So boring - so easily the idiots slip into what they think is what talkbacks are all about. So Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - so yesterday. Fuck that shit, right?
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anyone watching this?
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July 18, 2011, 6:47 p.m. CST
So... Emma Watson is in Beauty and the Beast, with Del Toro Involvement?
by Longtime Lurker
Anyone else heard this? Come on, people, keep up. :) Harry Potter is so yesterday....:)
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July 18, 2011, 7:26 p.m. CST
Yeah!! Emma to be in Del Toro's "Beauty & Beast." Wicked.
by Jerry Piper
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Both you and the other GENDER's posts are so tediously similar that it really doesn't matter. You know, like the difference between $80 million and $92 million...NO BIG DEAL.
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Two Genderb[l]enders! Which one do we shoot? I say we nuke 'em from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
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nuking the site from orbit is very often the only solution that makes sense for SO MANY of life's troubles these days :)
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Yeah, Rowling obviously knew where she was going with it but the books are all over the place. The last book, in my eyes at least, should have short and tense. Instead it was long, slow and plodding. I'll be interested to see what, if anything, Rowling does next. Regarding the film, I understand that the focus is all about the search for Horcruxes but I really feel that the director could have concentrated on the battle a bit more. Fred Weasley doesn't even get decent death scene, nor does Lupin. David Yates is nothing more than a safe pair of hands.... Like a Dad giving his son the car keys for the first time.... Warner Exec ' Now listen, here are the car keys to our billion dollar franchise car. Don't do anything clever or too exciting in it' David Yates ' Ok Dad. I'll be back by eleven'
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Just like LaBouf in Transformers 2.
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July 20, 2011, 12:19 a.m. CST
UltraTron's Review Of Learning That No IMAX Theater Is Playing Transformers 3 Because Harry Potter Has Replaced Every Muther Cunt Of A Show:
by UltraTron
I want to personally shit in the face of every cunt IMAX theater owner, Daniel Radcliff, the entire Hairy Cooter series- everyone involved with this bullshit- just eat my fucking shit. Not an exclamation mark. No. I'm quite calm. Last time I checked there were at least 5 IMAX theaters playing the greatest and largest epic spectacle motion picture ever created. Technically it is most sophisticated creation on film. In the entire history of film. Really. No,no really. Micheal Bay made it I know- it's totally nuts that these things can be said about this film. But you see guys. Nobody argues. Anyone who has seen it agrees. It is simply the most incredible motion ride experience ever had in a movie theater. And just when I finally wrangled everyone to go see it. No. Sorry. Hairy Cooter is in every fucking IMAX theater there is on earth. Not one single one left over for the most sophisticated technical production ever produced for the screen. I had so wanted to study it one more time. So in closing: Harry Potter- eat shit..(like Shatner woulda done it).. And die!
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July 20, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST
No really. This is fucking bullshit. Everyone should be fired. What the fuck? The movie is fucking still playing and hasn't been out that long.
by UltraTron
What in the fuck is this fucking bullshit? You don't fucking have anything to pull people out of their fucking houses you silly fucking cunts. What?! Am I out of line?! Really?! I'm being out of line by saying that you guys fucked people in the fucking ass?! Really?! Because where I'm standing it's assfuck city. It's assfuck city in my town without an IMAX theater playing fucking transformers 3 in 3 fuckin D. Bay! Where the fuck are you buddy?! You need to put the fucking smack down on every IMAX theater in fucking goddamn Muther fucking HOLLYWOOD! Hello!!! Where you fucking live!!! They are no longer playing your fucking 3D IMAX movie in a fucking IMAX theater. Helloooo!!! Hello!!! Is this fucking thing on?!!!
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July 20, 2011, 12:53 a.m. CST
You have fucked me. And in fucking me. You have fucked the best you got. Your greatest hope.
by UltraTron
You have fucked the human spirit itself.
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July 20, 2011, 1:18 a.m. CST
Ok so the lesson learned here today kids is this. You have exactly 2 weeks to see an IMAX film. That's it. So the new ads for all IMAX films are to read as follows:
by UltraTron
See! This movie! Only fucking playing! For 2 fucking weeks! Then! It's just in shitty regular fucking 3D! Everyone got that?! Ok we just want to make it clear in our ads from now on that there will be only a very very- what some would call extremely- short period of time within which you may view our select entertainments that because of the nature of IMAX 3D films and the cost of such huge productions are very very fucking rare and reserved to only a few per human lifespan! Everyone fucking got that?! Great! So to recap! Our new theater, television, radio, online, and anal bead thought transference ads will showcase the very important fact of the matter of the business pertainining to the very real and tangible reality of our lives here on earth in reference to the duration that IMAX films will be shown. That being no more than 2 weeks at a pop. Then it's gone forever. Replaced by some Harry potter thing. Then some dinosaur documentary or whatever the fuck occupies an IMAX theater when they arn't playing something actually worth seeing in one.
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July 20, 2011, 11:39 a.m. CST
See?! It's like a fucking day later and nobody even wants to talk about this shitty Harry potter bullshit. But ya know what?
by UltraTron
I got 5 fucking people who want to IMAX 3D some fucking robot carnage captured with the most advanced 3D camera ever devised- but guess what?! They now have to see horcrux flabberjabber ridiculoso! That pretty much sums up the entire fucking series of films doesn't it? Just some candle store bullshit that accidentally became the only fucking thing people had to do with themselves. Does this series really "work" for any of you? I've enjoyed parts, sure. I'm sure I'll see the latest in 3D IMAX(only because I'm now collecting these rare IMAX experiences like a collector of the rarest of rare antiquities). But overall it's been like slogging through a never ending tv series with great production values and not one character as indearing as even shitheel Wesley Crusher. If it hadn't been for the useless boyfriend tagalong in the new doctor who series- Wesley would have probably remained the screen's most useless blotch until Ron Weasley. Ron Weasley: blotch of shit on my screen. That could be his spinoff series. I want blood.
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Ultraton is really Michael Bay or a producer on Transformers. That's the only sane explanation why anyone would be outraged over the lack of IMAX screens for a crappy Michael Bay movie. What's next, sit-ins and hunger strikes for Stephen Sommers' GI Joe sequel? Aim higher, dude.
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July 20, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST
You haven't seen it. Clearly. So what else do you have to say?
by UltraTron
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This was a huge plan. I'm never seeing these fucking people again that I was supposed to see this with. Never. This is the biggest bullshit since we got Osama the day after Japan's nuclear disaster outdid Chernobyl by a gazillion. Then. No news from Japan was ever again reported. Ever. Ever since. Nothing about the survivors. Nothing about how they're doin. Nothing about all the things scientists say are flying all over the globe and causing unfucking believable cancerous shit from hell. Get it? We're fucked. The most I can hope for is some decent IMAX motion ride theme park thrills. Maybe I'll get a quidditch whatever the fuck broom ride now. Go get your fucking shine box.
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they flubbed the ending. why the hell would voldemort leave nagini after he said like 10x it had to stay at his side? why take away the invisibility cloak and *huge* shock that would have brought to voldemort? why get rid of the scene from the book where harry gives voldemort a chance to redeem himself? harry broke the wand without fixing his own? they even stressed that using someone elses wand wasn't the same as the "one e that chose you". bunch of dumb fucking changes.
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July 20, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST
Name a superhero you wouldn't rather have seen grow through 9 useless movies instead of this candle store shit?
by UltraTron
Take your fucking pick. I wouldn't have minded superboy through college and beyond. Or spiderman. Or young batman in training learning chemistry and shit. Anything really. Young Deadpool getting raped by his scout master. Anything but this candle shop. After 8 movies I don't even have the remotest desire to see the ending. That's just fucked!
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July 20, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST
Give me Rowling's agent. From now on the name UltraTron will become synonymous with puppeteering.
by UltraTron
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July 20, 2011, 6:45 p.m. CST
This is the best post about woman's tattoos I've ever seen-
by UltraTron
Gentlemen (and any ladies who may be posting/lurking), please bear with me while I rant a little about a sinister and disturbing trend among contemporary females that particularly disgusts me. I'd like to get some feedback regarding tattoos on women. I live in Birmingham, UK, and tattooed women seem to be an epidemic rash in these parts. For what it's worth, my attitude is that woman tattoos are utterly revolting and unforgivable. What I especially loathe, what really makes me want to spew my guts out, are the dark blue-green, spiky, webby, gothic-horror tatts (usually an inch or two above the girl's arse crack) that look like terminal-stage gangrene. They make even the most lovely, sweet, healthy and hygienic woman look like a stinking, two-bit crack whore with fulminating STDs and genital warts. Ladies, don't do it! Do NOT, ever, for any reason, get tattooed (unless, of course, you ARE a diseased, stinky skank-whore who dates alcoholic biker-thug drug dealers. Then it's OK, because the more criminal scum you infect, the better). And body piercings? Don't get me started! You have to be a total "mentalist" to willingly allow chunks of metal to be stuck through your flesh. Labia and clit piercings? What, are you insane? Are you out of your tiny ****ing mind? This is not sexy, "hot" or "cool". It is obscene and horrible. It is a vile desecration, favoured only by sicko BDSM aficionados. Dozy, superficial women probably think this kind of **** is good, like a typical "Sex in the City" episode (which, by the way, is written by a foul cabal of gayboy pillow-biters and shirt-lifters. How's that for ****ing irony?). Well, it isn't good. It sucks. Nasty, tattooed, pierced women should be denounced and arraigned wherever they are found, for the evil sluts that they are. Such blatant skank-posturing should be punished by a day in the stocks, suffering a rain of rotten, stinking vegetables, followed by community-wide ostracism. Furthermore, any slag with a TONGUE piercing should have her ****ing head chopped off, since she obviously places no value on it whatsoever. And when The Religion Of Peace (TM) finally takes over Europe, this is probably exactly what WILL happen, ladies, so don't say you haven't been warned. Please don't get back to me about how tongue piercings allegedly improve BJs. I, for one, do not want to feel a slug of metal scraping up and down my knob when getting sucked off, nor do I want metal bits bouncing around my face when I "go down". Unmutilated lips and tongue only, please, and no nasty surprises "down there", thank you very bloody much.
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Yup. That's what all tattoos look like. Every one ever done. Sorry. Oh you wanted to talk about Harry potter some more? Sure here ya go- ridiculoso flabberjabber! That do it for ya?
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July 20, 2011, 7:51 p.m. CST
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck Harry Potter. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck Harry Potter.
by UltraTron
That's all I got right now. I'll be back.
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Packed at an 1130 am showing (2d) on a Wednesday. What was weird were the amount of old people (60's, 70's) with no grandkids in tow. Loved it. Whole cast was great, including Radcliffe. David Yates can teach Michael Bay a thing or five about how to direct a balls to the wall action picture. Really nothing to bitch about. Confused on the wand ownership explanation at the end (dropped my phone on the floor), but I'll figure it out I guess when I re-watch it on BR. It's at least on par with Cuaron's film--and maybe better. Flame away, doooooshes--but I'm sad to see these films are no more. Been a great decade.
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July 20, 2011, 10:22 p.m. CST
Fuck I'm happy the fucking thing now has a complete story to tell me.
by UltraTron
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July 20, 2011, 10:55 p.m. CST
Ok I have a valid lawsuit I'm filing against all IMAX theaters in greater Los Angeles.
by UltraTron
I had a group of investors ready to see this film. It cost me a great deal of money to set this up. Without any warning there are no more IMAX screenings of the latest 3D IMAX Transformers movie. Lucky me I get to sue them free of charge because of my connections. You can read about this soon.
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Well I hope they made all the IMAX money they could make in that time.
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July 20, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST
They started it on a wednesday. So I guess I just didnt even think of those 3 days. It only played for 2 fucking weeks and 3 half ass days?!
by UltraTron
Eat my fucking shit you fucking cunt fucking dick sucking fuckwods.
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I haven't liked any of Yates' films. 5 and 6 were pretty bad - the worst being 6. I've only seen 6 once and that was enough. The editing and flow of the film was just off. Truly bad filmmaking. However, I saw DH 1&2 back to back (Thurs/Fri nights) and I disagree with the whole of your review. I think Yates finally got it right. He had to fuck up a few films beforehand as "practice", I guess, but he finally got it. Watching the 2 films for the first time back to back really brought everything together for me. Maybe you should try the same thing? I was able to watch them both as one whole film instead of waiting in between. Maybe that made all the difference. I loved it, and thought it was a fantastic ending to the onscreen saga. And, the albino dragon, as Harry mentions, was truly a work of wonder. Kudos to all involved in creating it. I *will* agree that Voldemort needed to talk a lot less. The whispering stuff got old really, really fast. I also agree about the disintegration effect. It's been done 100000000000 times before in other films. It's time to come up with something more unique. But other than that, I thought the film (both parts as one whole) was awesome. I'd give it another chance once you can see both parts together.
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Some of those were too fast. But over all, I had no issue with it. The worst edit in the entire movie has to be when mom Weasley defends Ginny against Bellatrix. It cuts right to "get away from her you bitch!" (or whatever the line was) and then she starts attacking Bellatrix. I was left wondering... what the hell just happened? It took a minute to catch up. Awful, terrible editing. There was zero emotional impact. So, I can agree there too. But the film over all was great, I thought (again, I recommend watching both back to back).
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"Wizards" who are born with magic powers. Superior based on birth - never ability. What does Harry ever do that makes him admirable?
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What the fuck has Yates done with this final installment? It was horrible in nearly every conceivable way. The sound mixign was atrocious. The score was dull and uninvolving. The acting aside from Radcliffe was embarassing. The final batttle is boring. And my god the editing sucked. A mishmash of scenes with no smooth transitions. Just choppy bullshit all the way through. WTF happened here? Yates has at least until this point proved he can structure a movie. This was a despicable phoned-in joke. He not only did not stick the landing here he fell flat on his face. How anyone could think this movie was good is beyond me. AWFUL.
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You've probably already killed yourself over this, but thanks for giving me a laugh. Too bad about missing the IMAX 3D Transformers 3, dude. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you lose.
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That comment about wanting to see Ron and Hermione and their adult R rated life?? it feels pretty icky. It's one thing to say you want more Potter story and spinoffs; it's another to comment like that about kids who have existed as minors in our minds for ages. Really, what's next? Potter-Porn? come on dude, goto a shrink !
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everything except the last battle is basically meaningless. but still there was some build up to this. This movie redeemed the movie series of Potter for sure, as personally I have felt that the movies sucked since about #3 or so. Last couple minutes were touching and heartfelt.
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I fucked a girl who liked to dress up as a night elf from world of warcraft. Found a leaf in my underwear when i got home.
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If you picked up a book for the first time and started reading it and put it down....Harry Potter is not for you... If your like me that just kept on reading until you realized it was fucking 4am and you had to wake up to go to work at 5:30am....then your hooked...and that was before you saw Emma Watson....Once you saw Hermione Granger you felt like you were a kid again.... Remember those countdown clocks for the Olson Twins to be 18? Where the heck were they for Emma Watson? (unless i totally missed them since I was married)
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After Hobbit is done, and Jackson and time warner get the rights to the Silmarillion, then the next 10 movies of the Silmarillion, will put the HP movies in their proper place. Plagiarized stories of Books of Magic , as well as a "conveient" magic system makde of blowing smoke from a donkey's behind. Only saving grace is the money and techinical skill and inventiveness of the effects and some better than average directing and cinematography. With the detriment of further turning kids away to paganism and witchcraft which is the devil's work. LOTR promotes faith in a higher power and dilution of self-aggrandizing magic which by the time of the third age had been decreed to leave the world along with the Elves leaving man to prosper by faith alone. HP makes a good soap drama among a few elitish kids but not much else to call it one of the timeless "all time great movie series". As was said earlier, it'll always be little league compared to LOTR.
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