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Will Ed Norton Go Head To Head With Jeremy Renner In THE BOURNE LEGACY?
Nordling here.
Tony Gilroy's THE BOURNE LEGACY is looking better and better, even without Matt Damon playing the titular character in it. Variety is reporting tonight that Ed Norton is in talks to play the film's villain, going against Jeremy Renner in the new film, which will take place in the Bourne universe as Renner's character seeks his own identity. The film already has Renner and Rachel Weisz in the cast, and adding Norton as the villain ups the ante for this action thriller. Although Jason Bourne does not appear in the film, I'd imagine there will be some kind of callback to him and since Damon hasn't discounted returning to the iconic role, it's quite possible if this film is successful that we'll be seeing all of these characters again in a new Bourne film.
For myself, the Bourne films got better as they went further along in the series, so THE BOURNE LEGACY could very well end up being the best of the franchise. I'm on record as pretty much despising shaky-cam action scenes, but the only time they really worked for me was in these films, and in THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM the sequence in Morocco is still one of my favorite set-pieces in a long time. If Renner, Weisz, Norton, and Gilroy can bring that intensity to the film, it could be a success, with or without Matt Damon.
Nordling, out.
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Sounds good to me.
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Sounds more like a rehash.
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Doesn't he always either piss everyone off and not get invited back, or take his ball and go home?
He's good but his history doesn't suggest a guy who will endure through a franchise. -
Children of Men. Only recent film that comes to mind that blew me away action wise and it wasn't even an action movie, but great set pieces. Oh and The Dark Knight was damn impressive. The first Bourne was the best, and without Greengrass. Had no shaky action scenes, resulting in me not throwing up. I prefered Greengrass's 911 flick...
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I don't really give a shit. The series is dead, and it was never so popular that it's begging for a reboot. Norton doesn't make it any more interesting either. I like Norton, but he's not cool.
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Countdown until Ed Norton starts demanding to rewrite the script and try to take over the editing process in 3...2...
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Ah well... I'm sure Ruffalo will do a fine job
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"Although Jason Bourne does not appear in the film"
Then it should be the no-Bourne Legacy, quasi-Bourne, Bourne-esque, sorta-Bourne, like-Bourne-but-different . . . -
The first Bourne was the best, especially that fight in the Paris apartment. I was really jonesin' for the follow-up, but spent most of that movie staring at the floor and trying not to lose my lunch.
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I'm very pro-Renner and have no qualms with Norton. In fact, this does sound mighty entertaining now. I'll probably end up enjoying it quite a bit, but yes ... is it really BOURNE rather than "like-Bourne-but-different" without Matty?
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Jul 12, 2011 9:36:04 PM CDT
Hopefully they buy a counter-weight for their steady cam this time...
by bantuwind
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Jul 12, 2011 9:37:27 PM CDT
JEREMY RENNER ISN'T THAT GREAT. He was mediocre in Hurt Locker (which sucked), he played the same character in The Town (which was decent), and I don't buy him as Bourne, which is not even to say I liked Damon or the first three movies to begin with.
by goldentribe
In fact I didn't. I disliked all of these movies. I hate the shitty action and bad editing which took all the fun out of the international intrigue for me. Worse fights than James Bond movies had 50 years earlier, piss off.
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I saw Renner play Jeffery Dalmer about ten years ago in a direct to video film. It was not a very good movie but I remember thinking that this Renner guy is gonna make it big some day. I still believe this, he came close with Hurt Locker but I don't think we have seen his best performance yet. I am not sure this is the role to make him an A list actor but if anyone can replace Matt Damon I think he can do it.
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The Fight sequences would be off the wall Badass!
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Not a fan of hers and don't like looking at her face and acting but that's ok.
Norton would be good as a bad guy because he is a good actor and I don't like him much either haha So he would work for me as a bad guy. I don't mind him, just gone off him.
Jeremy Renner I really like and think he's very good.
So the Bourne character isn't in the film. I thought Renner was just replacing Damon as that character but I guess not.
So what's the story? Will Renner just be waking up like Damon did and have to find out what's going on only to eventually discover he was part of the same program Damon was? -
Jul 12, 2011 10:22:11 PM CDT
"Not a fan of hers and don't like looking at her face and acting but that's ok."
by dahveed1972
You're a fucking idiot dude. And i can guaranfuckingtee you r one ugly john merrick looking sonovabitch. Seriously, keep your stupid, ugly little "thoughts" to yourself. Not even kidding.
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Jul 12, 2011 10:32:29 PM CDT
The best part of Bourne Ultimatum: PADDY CONSIDINE
by danielplainviewonvacationinboston
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Anyone who's seen Carlos knows how well he can carry a film. And at the end of Ultimatum it looked like his character was on the same trajectory as Bourne. They have an interesting replacement protagonist ready to go, why not follow up on that?
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Jul 12, 2011 10:44:42 PM CDT
To paraphrase something a TBer said in Nordling's Harry Potter talkback....
by blagyver
I really wish I could get into these movies. I love how much talent is behind each one and I love that smart action thrillers can still succeed with a huge fanbase. They've just never clicked with me. Not trying to troll, not trying to be a dick. I am the exception to the rule.
Regardless, Norton's the man and I'm sure he'll do well in this. The creative team is getting pretty damn solid as it moves along. -
That'd be a much more organic and natural extension, rather than just introducing a brand new character with Renner as Bourne-lite.
I'm still optimistic on this as I love the first three films (just recently watched all three back to back and think they still hold up fantastically), and Gilroy's Michael Clayton was a great flick too. But casting of Renner just strikes a very unexciting
note for me. Hope I;m proven wrong though.
I'm curious if this film will continue Bourne's love of the written word? The first flick he fought a guy off using a pen. The second flick he used a magazine. The third flick we saw him use a book. But I'm worried that this flick will see him using a tablet computer or laptop. Damn this digital age. -
If they can repeat the formula, smarter-than-average plot/characters, great action scenes (love the camera following Bourne through that window in Morocco), then I'm all for it.
If you're against it then just don't watch it. -
Interesting that he is picking up the pieces after Ethan Hunt and Jason Bourne. Time will definitely tell if he is indeed an A-lister. I've liked him quite a bit in stuff dating all the way back to Dahmer and S.W.A.T. but am still not sure if he can carry something.
On a site note, there was something about Julia Stiles in the last Bourne movie that was immensely attractive to me, and I've never really fancied her. Thoroughly enjoyed the emotion she brought to that fight scene between Bourne and Desh as well. -
Jul 12, 2011 11:21:32 PM CDT
The Paul Greengrass quick cutting Bourne style films are tired
by bobo_vision
Rehashing them with a new actor is exhausting just thinking about it. Renner brings zero excitement to this idea....neither does Norton as a villain.
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In that case, you should search the internet for the sex scene between Julia Stiles and Mekhi Pfifer. Nevermind...I did it for you:
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This is a good cast though.
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Sadly enough, I've actually seen O and remember the scene. The reason that Bourne movie sticks with me is because I've never liked her much or found her attractive in anything else. Appreciate the time and effort though sir.
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If she does anymore sex scenes in her post-Bourne period...you can be sure I'll post them at one time or another in the talkbacks.
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Jul 12, 2011 11:52:58 PM CDT
Who cares, both actors are awesome, will see this opening night.
by ganymede3010
Sounds like a great action movie.
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I know, let's have the CIA shooting innocent civilians in a train station. I'm sure that happens all the time.
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Not only as an actor but in a sweaty, vulgar fashion too.
I'll stream this on Netflix. -
I didn't want to see a Bourne film without Matt Damon in the role. So if his character isn't even IN this film but it takes place in his universe and follows the previous films, I'm open to seeing this.
It has my curiosity, let's see if it delivers.
The Bourne Supremacy is one of my absolute favorite films alongside The Empire Strikes Back. -
Jul 13, 2011 12:40:34 AM CDT
(sigh) Why is Universal runnin' their studio like MGM? It's becomin' a haven for hacks. A Bourne movie without Bourne? And when you factor in Ed Norton's participation, you can guarantee his prima donna ass will rewrite his lines, and then demand to takeo
by amadeo zeller
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Jul 13, 2011 12:48:48 AM CDT
Rachel Weisz is a better human being, a more attractive person, and a far more talented actor than Jeremy Renner, based on all available evidence......
by goldentribe
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renner and norton are awesome.
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Jul 13, 2011 1:02:06 AM CDT
"THE BOURNE LEGACY could very well end up being the best of the franchise
by rupee88
or it could very well end up being the worst of the franchise...what a goofy, empty statement....just hype based on hope with nothing else behidn it.
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i bet its nice...jus sayin
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Great choice, dickhead.
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Norton was on board for Avengers, he had even met with Whedon and cleared his schedule for it. Just like with Terrence Howard, it was Marvel that made the decision to recast the actor, apparently having not enjoyed the experience of working with him on the Hulk.
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Greengrass seemed to get all the credit for remaking it twice and adding f**king shaky cam. I nearly walked out of the cinema during the second movie.
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Jul 13, 2011 5:21:48 AM CDT
I fucking hate all bourne films. Never understood why a good actor like damon, would try to impersonate steven seagal.
by baronweazle
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Does nobody want to voluntarily work as a cold-hearted CIA assassin nowadays? Do they **all** have to be brainwashed into doing a job they'd renege on once the conditioning loses its grip? That's not very patriotic at all.
These guys are the anti-Bonds. Do they have to be brainwashed into fucking the hot chicks they meet on their missions, too?
HANDLER: Go on, fuck the hot chick, do it for your country!
BOURNE (hands shielding eyes): I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I don't wanna... (pukes) -
Jul 13, 2011 6:41:55 AM CDT
Is Renner the new go-to replacement star for action franchises?
by stalag17
Taking over both the Bourne and Mission: Impossible franchises?
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Jul 13, 2011 7:13:25 AM CDT
The last Bourne was cool, the other two were a little mediocre
by nabster
The first one was definitely mediocre. The second one was cool, but a little to shaky and bare in story.
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Hopefully thaty means Joan Allen in a chicken costume!
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Just make it about Doctor Silbermann's average day.
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It'll be like a road trip movie, only in space.
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I worked behind the scenes on the Incredible Hulk when they were shooting in Toronto. The guy was rarely on set (only when filming his takes - being driven from his hotel), never interacted with the other actors, demanded rewrite after rewrite, and never showed up to the wrap party, even though he was still in town. Such a scmuck! I was somewhat disappointed that Hulk was recast, for contnuity reasons, but I wasn't surprised at all. Nobody liked him on that film.
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It was established in the previous series that "Jason Bourne" was just a code name for the Damon character, so theoretically, couldn't Renner still be playing "Jason Bourne", but simply another operative with a different history, given the same code name?
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prove it boy.otherwise you are only an anonymous,hateful sycophant.
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I personally thought they were some of the best action flicks of the last decade.
The last entry in particular was really well done, especially, yes, the Morocco sequence where Damon runs across buildings, then leaps into a balcony window and has an epic fight where he kills a guy with a towel.
Although I'm not the biggest shaky-cam fan, it's often used when it shouldn't be, it WAS effective in this series of movies, to give the fight scenes a kinetic, claustrophobic feel. The use of the technique in Quantum of Solace, however, was misplaced. -
Because that was never his real name in the first place. If a code name, then it's reasonable to tell the story of other men who went through the same program, and were treated in similar ways.
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Jul 13, 2011 9:29:07 AM CDT
if this is the first of a new trilogy they will only get worse
by goldentribedidntnoticethebatlogo
and Jeremy Renner is fugly and boring and looks like he was a boxer for ten years before he started acting.
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Frewer can play a weasely government-type.
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Jul 13, 2011 9:58:10 AM CDT
So they could pull a Mission Impossible also with Renner?
by myphdisdoom
I find this odd that Ghost Patrol is basically Tom Cruise handing off the series to Renner. They are going to do the same thing with Bourne? Seems odd using the same actor for the hand off. Still Ghost Patrol looks awesome... They need to make sure Bourne 4 or whatever needs to stand out and not just be a retread of the other films.
Hollywood just wants franchises... Why because we the audience obviously love them. Look at Transformers... Horrible fucking movies but people really love going out and seeing film that are part of a franchise. It makes it an event. Look at Pirates 4... Studios will keep pushing franchises on us until we stop going which will never happen. -
killik - I've been posting on these boards for a while now. I'm not someone new just posting random BS. I am ex-military, and was hired by Zamaret Kleiman to work on TIH to handle prop guns, and was alos a military extra in a number of scenes. I worked on the film for 6 weeks, between late Aug to Oct 2006. I worked on the scenes filmed at a park in Toronto, where you see Tim Roth fight the Hulk after he gets the super soldier serum. It was suppose to be a 2 week shoot, but it went over time and over budget, which was bad for the film but great fopr me ;)
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I enjoyed the original trilogy as action flicks, but was never really enthused about the central conceit of them to elevate them any higher.
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just isnt for me. ive tried,, lord knows ive tried. but i just dont like them. they werent "bad", they just werent Great. and why make anything less than great?
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They're seemingly done well and yet...2 days later I can't recall the plot. All of the movies have interchangeable titles and plots. Sound and fury... signifying nothing.
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Ya...wow..these movies really sucked....WTF? Shut up. What was great to you? Wait. Don't bother telling me, I will only be thinking about how much smarter I am than you the whole time.
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Jul 14, 2011 1:50:51 AM CDT
Bourne got a facelift. Bam! One line of dialogue explains it all.
by onin solstice
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"On a site note, there was something about Julia Stiles in the last Bourne movie that was immensely attractive to me, and I've never really fancied her."
I know what you mean.
Stiles isn't conventionally attractive, but there is something undeniably sexy about her. -
For me, Supremacy (2nd). I thought the shakey-cam was perfect in that. It went OTT in Ultimatum to the point where I couldn't follow some sequences.
Supremacy is just beautifully assembled. -
Where did that whole thing come from? Is it supposed to be some kind of gag whereby portraying one of the smartest and most eloquent people working in Hollywood as a mental incompetent is comedic? I always felt I was missing something there.
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Jul 14, 2011 1:51:17 PM CDT
would be nice if they included Stiles in a cameo. Spoiler question follows
by ragingfluff
Is her character still on the run? Or does she get to come back to the CIA?
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but is Renner going to say the trademark catchphrase when he's in a club full of bad guys and chicks?
BITCHES, COME!!!
'cuz that was awesome the first time.
... what?
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