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Will Josh Brolin Say "Stop! Hammer Time!" In Spike Lee's OLDBOY Remake?

Nordling here.
(Marking this article Spoiler in case a reader hasn't seen the original OLDBOY yet. That poor bastard.)
Now that Spike Lee has been confirmed for the director's chair for OLDBOY, kudos to Twitchfilm for landing the scoop. Now it looks like they may have landed another - Mandate Pictures is pushing hard for Josh Brolin to slurp up the octopus in the new film. That's pretty good casting - Brolin can do the aging thing pretty well, since his character will spend 15 years in captivity. That part would be a gift to any actor who decided to play it. I'd love to see who plays the American equivalent of Woo-Jin Lee. The chemistry between the two parts is essential and the article throws around names like Idris Elba and Aaron Eckhart, who would all be terrific in either role.
I just hope that the actor plays the role without ego and doesn't insist on changing up the darker nature of the character. Oh Dae Su goes some pretty bleak places in the film and I feel pretty confident that there are many actors out there who just can't commit to the part because of that. I don't see Denzel Washington fucking his own character's daughter in the film, for example. There's just an extreme aspect to the character that will scare many established actors off. If Josh Brolin is willing to go there, and Spike Lee is willing to take the audience there, it could make for some extraordinary filmmaking.
Obviously this is a film with a fervent fanbase - and I count myself as one of those fans - so any changes will be met with skepticism. But in making the film for an American audience, things will probably get changed. It's unlikely that mainstream audiences would accept the despair that Oh Dae Su ends up in - if it can't be punched away, they'll likely reject it. But that's also what makes the film so very powerful. In the end, Oh Dae Su is utterly destroyed by his nemesis, and if Lee twists the knife properly, at the very least, this film's going to be despised by Joe Moviegoer. But for those of us who know art when we see it, this remake could be a transformative filmgoing experience. Lots of possibilities and variables, and I don't blame fans for being concerned. But Lee's an amazing filmmaker - even when he's off he's never less than interesting. I just hope that Mandate gives him free rein with this project.
Nordling, out.
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I WANT ATTACK THEE EBLOCK
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zing!
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Brolin has certainly proven he can play the lovable loser, but can he play the blank-stare zombie-esque maniac? I don't know. It almost seems like the studio only watched No Country for Old Men and saw Brolin in a "cat and mouse" scenario and figured Oldboy was a perfect fit...and I'm not certain it is. And honestly, I don't think I could buy Josh Brolin having sex with anyone, much less his daughter. The "romantic" element just seems a bit far-fetched for him.
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July 12, 2011, 4:31 p.m. CST
Aaron Eckhart only works in a specific kind of role. He was great in THANK YOU FOR SMOKING, and pretty mediocre as Two-Face.
by golden tribw
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July 12, 2011, 4:32 p.m. CST
I believe a previous AICN article mentioned that the octopus/incest was exclusive to the first film and won't be in a remake ... IS THAT CORRECT?
by golden tribw
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I don't for a minute think they are gonna have him fuck his own daughter.
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July 12, 2011, 4:33 p.m. CST
Evergreen is a fragile, pathetic, douchebag nerd. He should be cast accordingly
by Mel
Paul Giamatti killed his career with Ironclad...I could see him as the creep, otherwise.
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July 12, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST
enricobalazar....what about the octopus scene? I know how they'll change that..
by Mel
He'll be eating animal crackers and they'll overdub animal screams in pain
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Nordling = Shit I have been reading this website and various other movie gossip sites for quite some time now and I have never come across such an appalling writer. Every time I visit aintitcool I am disparaged by his awful reporting. It is worse than Harry Knowles' and that is a stretch
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July 12, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST
Paul Giamatti has been killing his career with every single movie since SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. Even SIDEWAYS was just a little stalagmite in a long descent
by golden tribw
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For the record: OLBOY was based on a manga WHICH DID NOT INCLUDE THE INCEST SUBPLOT. That was a creation of Park Chan-Wook for his film. Even if the American film does not include it - and nobody knows yet if they will - that does not mean they're disregarding the source material.
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I know he's doing a gazillion things now, but combine him with Spike Lee and I think there'll be magic
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He definitely won't be put off by the daughter-fucking aspect.
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Josh Brolin is a great actor, and I can definitely see him as such a maniacal character. Also, whats with all the Paul Giamatti hate? Am I the only person who saw John Adams or something?
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The remake of old boy will only be for fratt douche bags and all around stupid cunts. You want to impress me? Make the comic book version of old boy which isn't sexy to most people.
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July 12, 2011, 6 p.m. CST
Has there been any actual confirmation that this will be based on the Korean film version???? Or will this be based off the Japanesse Magna???
by MRJONZ72
I ask this because when Stephen Spielberg's and Will Smiths names were being tossed around...I could had swore I saw an article on this very site that said they was going to to base it on the Magna. So i wonder if Spike is also going to base it on the Magna there are a lot of differences...and some major ones. i also found the novel to be less darker in tone...but its still pretty bad ass and i loved the movie one of my favorite of all time. I would not be surprised if they are doing the Magna as it is more "safe" for Hollywood.
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It's just a movie, they're actors, they're not related, and they're not really having sex. If South Park can get away with feeding parents to their son in chilli, a little incest twist isn't going to ruin society.
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Another reason not to remake the film.
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July 12, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST
I like it. But get a real director first. Oh and the Octopus? easy...
by torontoxic
...crawdads. Ever seen a guy eat a live crawdad? They smash them with their fists and pop them in their mouths. Trust me its WAY more disturbing that little octopus and its not all together uncommon in Louisiana. In the swamps anyway.
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I'll pass on this movie since the original korean is pretty much perfect!
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We all grew up reading Oedipus Rex. We know the score. Americans can handle it or get the fuck over it.
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July 12, 2011, 8 p.m. CST
Change everything, keep remaking the movie with a different director actor team and different twist ending
by JackSlater4
Forever.
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July 12, 2011, 8:02 p.m. CST
As little enthusiasm as I have for this project, I do like me some Brolin
by Sardonic
He could pull it off if anybody could. They need to CHANGE the movie though, not just make it a copy. Don't have the octopus scene. Don't have the hallway fight. Don't have the tongue. Doing all that stuff over again would just be way too unoriginal. They need to think of new stuff (lol). I'd go as far as to say drop the hammer, but that'll never happen happen (and I'm sure the hallway fight will happen).
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That's not the impression I have of him as a person and I think he is strong enough not to bow to a studio. I also have the impression that Brolin would be willing to do stuff that's screwed up. I don't like the suggestions for Oh Dae Su's nemesis. The guy in Oldboy is so easy to hate just by his appearance before he even utters a word. I would like someone with that same sort of smarmy look and cocky swagger that is easy to hate. However, no pun intended but aren't these suggestions all a little bit too old for the characters if comparing them to the original? Just going by the trailers for the remake of Girl with a Dragon Tattoo it appears that it is possible for a US remake to stay close to the source material.
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July 12, 2011, 10:18 p.m. CST
[quote] If South Park can get away with feeding parents to their son in chilli [unquote] You think Matt & Trey came up with that?
by golden tribw
Good grief.
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so who cares about a remake. It may be an improvement.
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The incest and the bleak finale seem like too much for us pussified Americans. They should make it a Disney ending with a cameo by Snow White and the seven dwarves.
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It's the sort of role that makes a career.
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... I've seen Oldboy and certain images are permanently imbedded in my brain. I was disturbed and amazed with the film in so many aspects. As much as I criticize American remakes (like "The Visitors" and "Dinner for Schmucks" that do not live up to their French originals), I think "Let Me In" was absolutely fantastic (based on the Swedish film "Let The Right One In"). I've seen some Spike Lee films and am curious to see what approach he takes. I'm going to keep an open mind on this one.
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July 13, 2011, 2:08 a.m. CST
nordling if u r a fan of old boy what about NO REMAKE
by captaindickbloodsrobot
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July 13, 2011, 2:08 a.m. CST
old boy is perfection the way it it and any other director will make a copy and since when is a copy better than the original???
by captaindickbloodsrobot
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July 13, 2011, 2:09 a.m. CST
old boy is perfection the way it is and any other director will make a copy and since when is a copy better than the original???
by captaindickbloodsrobot
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July 13, 2011, 2:10 a.m. CST
you could cast russel crowe or daniel day lewis and still it would be a lousy copy!
by captaindickbloodsrobot
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July 13, 2011, 2:11 a.m. CST
by the way the best movie spike lee did was inside man and even that was a medi. movie and was saved to be shit by cliwe owen
by captaindickbloodsrobot
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I Dont care what they put out. It's going to be americanized crap that will be lost in translation. Terrible idea. This is akin to a Live-action Akira, and you see how that turned out. I remember when Will Smith and I think it was Spielberg were attached to this. Just as fuckin bad.
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I like Brolin and Spike Lee, but there's is no way in hell they will make a good remake here.
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If you proceed with this 'remake' or whatever you want to call it, just know this is going to be a career killer for both of you. You cannot remake a movie that has already achieved perfection. Perfection in casting, cinematography, screenplay, scoring, production design... Your version of OLDBOY will be a pale imitation and fans of the original will NEVER embrace it. Spike Lee, I know your career is on the ropes right now and you're looking for a commercial hit to make you bankable again, but OLDBOY - when it tanks and it will, because every critic in the world is going to hate on it - will only send you straight back to the canvas. Go write something original and audacious, or find another strong property like 25th HOUR and make it for a shoestring budget. This is not the movie to fuck with. OLDBOY already exists in this universe and if xenophobic cunts out there can't or won't read subtitles, they should never be able to share in the joy of watching one of the greatest films of the last decade.
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July 13, 2011, 5:09 a.m. CST
If there doing the Magna then it will NOT be a remake..I still havent seen it confirmed that thier remaking the Korean Film. Again I swear I had read that Spielberg and Will Smith were doing the Magna not the Korean Film
by MRJONZ72
So I'm wondering if Spike is taking the same route.
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July 13, 2011, 6:12 a.m. CST
In the end, Oh Dae Su is utterly destroyed by his nemesis
by Kelly Grimes
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I don't think he was. The ending is fairly ambiguous, Nordling. As I recall you're never quite sure whether he destroys himself to live content as his daughter's lover or not.
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July 13, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST
I Saw The Devil isn't even close to being as good as Old Boy.
by Sardonic
I Saw The Devil probably wouldn't even exist if it weren't for Old Boy.
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And I'll throw The Man from Nowhere into the mix. Yeah, bitches!
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July 13, 2011, 1:29 p.m. CST
Oldboy wouldn't exist if not for Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance.
by Stalkeye
Fact
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Never really saw most of the Wire series, but I heard he had an interesting role. He's ideal for a Spike Lee Joint.
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You should really watch Old Boy. It's beautifully photographed, unapologetic in it's subject matter and violence, dark as hell and some really cool original shit going on! Hollywood will never be able to recreate this movie. What they'll produce is going to be watered down bullshit!
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July 13, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST
I love Brolin, but I don't think thats very creative casting
by Kammich
I think its a bit too easy to cast a well-known Hollywood "action" star. Not that Brolin is really an action type of guy, but he has definitely played his fair share of tough guy roles. He's a great actor, but I don't think he really fits the part. The first time we see Oh Dae-Su, he's actually fairly pathetic. Drunk, loud, overweight. The guy is clearly the FARTHEST thing from a "badass." It is only after 15 years of confinement that he hones his skills and loses his sanity, becoming the cool, emotionless asskicking machine that wields the hammer. Thats why I hate the suggestions of people like Idris Elba. Another fantastic actor, but Elba is a BORN badass. There would never be any question that he could walk up to you and beat the everloving christ out of you. You're supposed to underestimate Oh Dae-Su throughout the movie. If Spike Lee is really remaking the film(and not the Manga), and is aiming to replicate Min-sik Choi's performance... he should stay away from Idris Elba, Josh Brolin, Denzel Washington, etc. Get someone middle-aged, who can go from meek and out-of-shape to a cool, calculating badass believably. I'm a total hypocrite, because I honestly don't have any really good suggestions that fit the criteria. Thinking off the cuff entirely... Willem Dafoe? Sam Rockwell? Sharlto Copley? Shit, maybe even Russell Crowe. I dunno, its a tough call. Woo-jin is a lot broader and would probably be much easier to cast. The role echoes a lot of Christian Bale's performance as Patrick Bateman, so Bale could be a good choice. Maybe I'm crazy, but I could really see Joseph Gordon-Levitt(who worked with Spike Lee before) in the role... but the (assumed) age differential would be a problem.
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July 14, 2011, 12:30 a.m. CST
If Spike Lee is so damn good then why cant he do something ORIGINAL!
by Surfaces_are_supposed_to_be_FLAT
Instead of jumping on the "let's get all our ideas from overseas and call it 'remaking'" bandwagon?
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July 14, 2011, 9:59 a.m. CST
Spike is an excellent director and he's done a shitload of Original projects
by theycallmemrtibbs
She's Gotta Have it, Do the right thing, She Hate me, Bamboozled, The Inside Man.. Unfortunately, a lot of people didn't see those thought provoking films, They would rather see films with Black men running around in dresses for some bizarre ass reason. <p> Hollywood wouldn't invest in potential projects like the Jackie Robinson story (Spike's been promising for years) but he would get a big budget for a remake of a movie that already has a huge following...
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The Oh Dae Su character needs a Sean Penn or Johnny Depp treatment. Only actors who people would think are just as crazy as the characters himself. Plus the age matches. No sure about who should play his nemesis...Jude Law? Has to be a younger pretty boy.
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July 15, 2011, 10:44 p.m. CST
Nooo!! This is one movie that should not be re-made!!
by John Staymoist
well if anything, it will only serve to give the original even more luster.
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July 15, 2011, 10:44 p.m. CST
Nooo!! This is one movie that should not be re-made!!
by John Staymoist
well if anything, it will only serve to give the original even more luster.
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