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DARK KNIGHT RISES teaser trailer description... Don't read if you want to discover with HARRY POTTER this Weekend!
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Hey folks, Harry here... Last night I was contacted by a few projectionists across the country that had received the 35mm teaser trailer for DARK KNIGHT RISES, which is being attached to HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS Part 2 - along with that JOHN CARTER teaser. Well Quint gave us the breakdown on that. I'll call this spy, NIGHTCRAWLER, for my own reasons - but here's what he sent in:
Alright sir, here it is. I'm doing this on my phone so I ask that you correct any obvious grammar and punctuation errors I may make.
-Trailer opens with studio logos set on top of the blue flame from Dark Knight.
Start panning up some buildings, but cut to the screen card: EVERY HERO HAS A JOURNEY.
Cuts to a shot from Begins with Bruce walking up to that Village when he's looking for Ra's
Screen Card: EVERY HERO HAS AN END
Ra's (Liam Neeson) voice over: "If you make yourself more then just a man. If you devout yourself to be ideal. And you become something else entirely. A legend Mr. Wayne....A LEGEND!"
Screen Card: THE EPIC CONCLUSION
Cut to Gordon in a hospital bed laying on his side. Looks to be in serious pain. Has A breathing mask on. He is talking to someone.
Gordon: "We were in this together, then you were gone.......Now this Evil rises. The Batman.....HAS to come back." (all this is said in a very raspy voice, in much pain)
Bruce/Batman(its not shown who he's talking to, so don't know in which form Bruce is visiting him in. My guess would be as Bruce Wayne) : "What if he doesn't exist anymore?"
This part is the hardest to understand in the entire trailer, I listened to it at least 10 times but the score is over powering here and Gordon is having trouble talking. It sounds as if he says, "Humor me," while trying to laugh. I might be wrong here, full disclosure.
During this quick talk we're shown a shot of the bat cycle when it drives up the ramp from Dark Knight, Gordon destroying the Act Signal all cut in with the Hospital. As well as super fast flashes of Bane's face.
Pan up crumbing buildings to reveal the Teaser Poster, the camera zooms to the white opening and on an all white screen the title appears. The score reaches a fever pitch before turning over to The chanting from the website.
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES
Fades to black and then we see Batman backing away from something, then Bane enters from the left side of the screen. Very quick shot then the trailers done.
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I guess.
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I wonder if the bat comes back..
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Want to see it, seems like a good trailer but I hate when movies use old footage for a teaser for a new movie =/
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If the "humour me" line is correct, there seems to be some insinuation that Gordon has figured out who Batman really is. Also, didn't we already hear that Alfred ends up in the hospital too? Seems that everyone is under the weather in TDKR!
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bring back nipples on the batsuit, that's what killed Bane in Batman & Robin.
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I think this is the part of TDKR I'm most intrigued about. Nolan is actually going to have a conclusion to his Batman series and I can't actually think of any other comic book movie franchise that has delivered a definitive ending.
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And I was really hopeing we'd get a flash of Catwoman. Darn it.
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...because it was just an awful fucking movie through and through. On a more related note, I hope they REALLY start kicking up the viral marketing in the way they did with The Dark Knight. I even have one of the Dentmobile magnets. :)
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I am one of the few, but that costume didn't work for me. It looked like a batman action figure variant, like nfl superpro batman. For me, the suit should be less busy, so I hope that he will have come up with a finalized look for this film, having had time to tinker with it since the events of TDK, something like the arkham asylum suit would be awesome.
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probably
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I hate those cliche "ever hero has an end" type cue cards that every trailer uses. They have replaced the "in a world" by The Voice.
But that said, it sounds about right for a teaser promoting a flick a year away, just enough of a tease to wet your whistle, and still get you pricked up. -
but I think this sounds cool. Anyone care to read anything into a trailer they haven't seen yet? Apparently you can see Bill Pullman's arsehole in the top right corner at 1.22
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LOVE AND OTHER DRUGS has plenty Catwoman flashes.
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Move along,nothing to see here
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I preferred the Begins suit to the Dark Knight one. It looked like a GI Joe outfit, no bueno.
I got that it was about the function of it, but c'mon, you are still doing things for the artistic element, go ahead and make it somewhat sweeping and elegant, not just completely utilitarian. -
Seems a little odd, since she's a recognizable character and Bane isn't (except to comic geeks and people that haven't purposely forgotten Batman & Robin).
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Tagging any superhero film as an "ending" is just too stupid for words. Capes and spandex practically define the term "continuing saga." Batman doesn't need an "ending," just because Nolan's declared himself "outtie." Just give us a tale, well-told, and have a modicum of respect for the audience -- y'know like what occurred in "The Dark Knight" -- and that's all we really need.
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Jul 12, 2011 3:33:06 PM CDT
He MUST be as Bruce Wayne, otherwise he'd have that shitty growl
by shiftyeyeddog
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That's sort of why I like it. For comic geeks, Bane is a cool little easter egg. For everyone else, its just an atmospheric reveal of some big scary dude, and it tells you nothing.
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Plus it wouldn't really make all that sense for Gordon to be asking Batman to return, and he's standing there in his suit saying "nahhh, I just don't think I can do it anymore, in fact I don't even have that suit anymore, I sold it...huh...oh yeah, uhh, nevermind."
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It's never really been done before and it makes this more then just another superhero film.
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Jul 12, 2011 3:35:58 PM CDT
and this cant be fake if he received it from 4 diff. projhectionists, unless he's lying
by billy_d_williams
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I'm excited to see what he has planned. Third movies in franchises are tricky, so it'll be interesting to see if he pulls it off!
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Jul 12, 2011 3:37:02 PM CDT
HOPE THIS IS GOOD, INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE IS THE ONLY THIRD FILM I LIKE
by meadowe
to an extent epIII and Return of the Jedi, depending on what you call the third movie in a trilogy.
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creator of Brady Bunch and Gilligan's Island and writer on dozens of shows including Red Skelton
and once again, Herc, the guy in charge of TV, has his head up his ass watching eps of Saturday Night Lame and Karaoke Idol...
Seriously, does he have pics of one of the staff blowing Bill Cosby or something? How the fuck did that narrow-minded "critic" ever get put in charge of the TV section?!? -
Jul 12, 2011 3:38:58 PM CDT
HAS MORE THAN TDK TEASER, SO HOPEFULLY THE TRAILER IN DECEMBER(?) IS AWESOME
by meadowe
idk how Bane can hope to compete with the Joker, and for Tom Hardy's sake I hope the nolans had that in mind cuz I think he's a great actor and deserves a great role worthy of his talents, especially in a follow up to The Dark Knight.
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Bruce Wayne: "What if he doesn't exist anymore?"
Batman: "Rraaa rif reee roesn't reeexist raaanymorrrr?" -
As fans of the character know, Bruce Wayne will always be Batman... even if he's not wearing the suit. Because he will always see himself as Batman. That's who he is, that's how he sees himself in his mind. There is no "Bruce Wayne." As Batman Begins correctly showed, that's facade.
But now it seems Gordon might know the true identity of Batman? That's fucked-up. And Bruce may be given up Batman entirely? That's fucked-up. And maybe this is going to be his "end" - as in a retirement or a death? That's fucked up.
Hopefully this makes sense in context. Right now I don't know what to make of this... at all... and feel concerned.
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I'll check out the trailer Friday when I see HP.
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Jul 12, 2011 3:41:42 PM CDT
THE "ENDING, CONCLUSION" MOTIF REMINDS ME OF MATRIX REVOLUTIONS
by meadowe
if this is true that is...reminds me of Oracle's voiceover in the matrix revolutions trailer about everything that has a beginning has an end, and how at the end of the trailer instead of the matrix code dropping down on the screen from the top filling up the screen, it drops down from the screen to the bottom until there is no code left at all. That's what the whole fading into white light reminded me of.
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What do you guys think?
If you are saying whether it was a good movie compared to those before it, then I would say few (if any) make the cut, but if you are just asking which 3rd movies were decent outright, I'd wager a few:
Return of the King
Last Crusade
Back to the Future III
Prisoner of Azkaban
Nightmare on Elmstreet 3
Return of the Jedi
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Ouch.
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Jul 12, 2011 3:44:32 PM CDT
Some people can't be reasoned with. Some people just want to watch the world burn.
by knowthyself
People will die. I'm a man of my word.
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Give him a day.
I'm more annoyed by the fact that Gene Colan's been dead for weeks and nobody here seems to give a damn. -
Jul 12, 2011 3:44:35 PM CDT
It's actually with some Transformers showings here in England. Most of the stuff's from the previous movies - probably because they're still in the early stages of filming, but it's a lot better than the voice over DK trailer. I think Gordon is actually s
by arkhaminmate001
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I'm hoping for some kind of variation of knightfall. Arkham breakout, Bane watching and learning, Batman getting worn down, and finally Bane breaking Batman. Not sure what kind fo definitive and happy ending you can give that, but I am hoping for something like that with Nolan doing it far more justice than my description ever could...
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Batman gets his ass kicked by a ferocious, hungry adversary (Clubber Lang, Bane), his patron dies (Mickey/Gordon), and he comes back at the end after embracing his more visceral side by working with someone who'd traditionally be a rival (Apollo/Catwoman).
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Finished the goblin story and didn't end with him swinging through the city. Sounds like an ending to me. The hero doesn't have to die for it to end. It was a thematic ending where he has to start over with Mary jane and finally got over the death of Ben via sandman forgiveness.
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I'm sure he's seen some f'd up things in Gotham, but an 8 year old seeing his parents gunned down in a $h!++y alley has to be way up on his f'd up-o-meter. And I'm sure he noticed that the same time a jackhole put a stapler to the back of his head and started running around in memory cloth was the same time the news reported that Bruce Wayne was back in town. Anyway, I'm still up in the air as to whether or not see hp7 or just look at this on the internet.
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(quote)Relax, Sherwood Schwartz's corpse isn't even cold yet(unquote)
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Jul 12, 2011 3:49:53 PM CDT
Just to finish what i was saying - i think gordon actually says 'him or Me' but the music score is epically loud, but the final shot of a tired Batman and Bane is quite Jizzworthy!
by arkhaminmate001
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With a bikini clad Catwoman racing batwoman. Slo-mo and jiggly jiggly jiggly all the way.
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It's implied in the comics that Gordon has known batman identity for quite sometime. He figured it out but has never asked.
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well sounds interesting from the description.
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Jul 12, 2011 3:51:39 PM CDT
Sounds teaserly enough to me and it falls in line with my theory on how Nolan will bring this full circle...
by mr. nice gaius
...it's all in the lessons Wayne learned while training with Ras. Trust me on this. MNG won't let you down.
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In Nolan We Trust.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPY-RgUvhVM
It's nothing like described above and looks like it was recorded with a Nokia 8550 -
Has he pissed you off with a boring or horrible movie? Curious.
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Jul 12, 2011 3:58:42 PM CDT
I was kinda hoping to catch a glimpse of some Catwoman boo-bays, myself.
by astronut
Alas, that does not seem to be in the cards, judging by the description.
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Jul 12, 2011 3:59:51 PM CDT
Hm... I'm wondering if this will take cues from The Dark Knight Returns
by rev_skarekroe
Batman comes out of retirement to defeat a hulking monstrosity who's turning Gotham into a hellhole...
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Who are you, Mathew McConnaughey?
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I am kind of hoping Nolan and Bale decide in like 25 years to do another and do that storyline.
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WHY'RE YOU TRASHING MY SCENE! YOU ARE TRASHING MY SCENE!
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I'll call this spy, NIGHTCRAWLER, for my own reasons says Harry.
WHAT ARE THOSE REASONS?!
IS IT BECAUSE HE IS BLACK?!
I don't want no racism here.
Hey Nightcrawler, if you're reading this then make a post and explain? Also tell us why you didn't video this teaser on your phone and post it up here?
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LMFAO!
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He calls him Nightcrawler because he has a slimy wang.
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Hurry thespians, get in the actmobile and make it to the stage pronto!
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Leo and (the underused) Marion being it's only saving graces, along with some amazing effects in places. However, Nolan forgot to make us care about what was going on or whether some numb fucks are trapped in 'limbo' or whatever plane of a dream world.
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...The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly...Toy Story 3...there are a bunch of great "threequels". Yes, the vast majority are horrible, but there is a precedent that this could be fantastic.
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I'm assuming he's not the 'main' bad guy of the piece.
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What about it sounds fake? Sounds pretty coy, doesn't show much, and gives a tiny tease at the end. Sounds exactly like the kind of teaser they would do a year out.
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Why is this the "epic conclusion"? It's Nolan's last film (probably) not necessarily the last Batman film in this series.
Why is Gordon asking for Batman to come back? Where has he gone? He was still around when the last movie ended.
Why old footage from the last movie? I know they're still shooting and this is a teaser but that's just lame. Give us something new. We don't need a lot of reshashed footage, that's not wetting our appetite for a brand new movie. -
It's very well written and feels less made up than some of the other bullshit reports of heard about. But I don't know, I still smell fish. (Queue the obscene jokes.)
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The teaser is less than 30 seconds and shows nothing but Bane's back with some dialog. It was shown before Harry Potter (which kicks unbelievable amounts of ass, by the way!). This guy here has made up his own trailer in his head and you have posted it.
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Dude where have you been for the last year WB, Nolan everyone involved has been saying this is the last of THIS Batman.
If they are using knightfall for a source material then yes Bane will destroy batman so bad he can no longer be batman. Which I am sure is why it is called Rises because he will have to overcome it.
Andy they are reusing footage because the movie has only been filming for 2 months.
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Jul 12, 2011 4:20:04 PM CDT
I hope he has an updated outfit, the TDK was too busy. Wait, how do I convey a lisp via text...too 'bithzzy'?
by azultool
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Remember at the end of TDK, Batman was on the run, the cops wanted him, he sacrificed his image to maintain the image of Harvey Dent as Gotham's White Knight. So where is he? Probably keeping a low profile and staying out of the spotlight, living it up at Wayne manor. Seem's pretty obvious to me.
As for why the old footage, well remember the first TDK trailer with just the logo and talk over? This is a "teaser" not a full trailer, so they are going to limit what they show, and they are showing old clips as a means to tell whatever story they are telling with this teaser.
If this is Nolan's last movie, I have a hard time believing that Bale or the other actors will be back, but who knows. And if they do make another (or when) it may be a new director, with new sensibilities and a different concept of where the story should go. Seems like a reasonable concept to me. -
Break free from the things we hold tightest, that's when we see some real interesting shit! Bring it on Nolan you awesome ass motherfucker!!!!!!
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Ooh, the HARRY POTTER reviews are coming in positive now...
The thrilling conclusion to a phenomenal cinematic story 10 years in the telling, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 is proof that authentic movie excitement is its own form of magic. ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY
It's a climax of truly epic proportions. LA WEEKLY
Everything a summer blockbuster should be but rarely is - a whip-smart, slam-bang piece of entertainment where we deeply care about the fate of the central characters. NEW YORK POST
It's wonderful. Epic and heartbreaking and just as grand as it needs to be. NEW YORK DAILY NEWS -
...What if they are planning on killing Batman?.....jeeez..
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To have her sit on my face, ala Madonna on top of Dafoe in Body of Evidence. Also, Hathaway seems much skinnier than Madonna did, so less chance I get my nose broken.
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I would pay $10 dollars for Anne Hathaway to sit on your face and fart.
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The icons are dying.
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"Now this evil rises" sounds fake to me.
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I'm not sure how to covey a lisp via text, but you have sounding like an asshole down pat, so that's one up for you. also, I'm not gay - ask your mom
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Is this sans pants, g-string only, or the full bush? I think the menu dictates the price. Also is this a hot air bubble fart, a wet fart, or a down 'n' brown dirt bomb. I'd only take the former, not into hot lunches or cleveland steamers, thank you very much.
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Legend says that when Hathaway's sphincter sounds its mighty horn - it is foretold that mel gibsteinberg will breathe no more.
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And something in my teeth, yeshhh!
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that sounds so fake - and utter shit i may add. Why would they A) show old footage? when in the history of film has a trailer show footage from another film? that is ridiculous. B) A shot of the poster? unless he means the shot depicted in the poster ie rubble falling from buildings, why in gods name would you cut to a still of a poster?
It will be similar vibe to the DK teaser. little or no footage + a voice over.
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pathetic losers
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Jul 12, 2011 4:30:06 PM CDT
...so I ask that you correct any obvious grammar and punctuation errors I may make.
by franks_television
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You are about to be schooled by a hundred talkbackers explaining to you exactly when in the history of film old footage has been shown in a trailer. But just to name a few recent ones:
Star Wars (Revenge of the Sith I believe)
Harry Potter (Half Blood Prince?)
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mel, something in your teeth? I'm thinking sweetcorn.
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Since you clearly don't care for Nolan's films, I'm just curious.
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There is no way that this can be better than the previous two, but box office takings will be HUGE, and we'll get another. Why bring in Bane? He's hardly the best villain to use. I'd rather see The Penguin, or Hugo Strange in this.
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that i dont like Nolan's films?where the fuck do i say that boy?
i like Prestige,Memento which is a masterpiece,Insomnia,BB,i like TDK but it is very overrated and it is also a fact that Inception is one boring pile of shit.
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Sheeez, about 95% of you knuckleheads are going to be so disappointed by this movie when it comes out or so blind by having Nolans nutsake in your face to judge it objectively. The level anticipation is already at a fever pitch and they aint even half way through shooting the fuckin' thing.
CALM....THE.... FUCK.... DOWN!
Listen, I have no ill will with Nolan as a moviemaker. His take on Batman is the truest thus far. But some of you clearly have no lives with "In Nolan We Trust"....ahhhh for all that is good.
CALM....THE.... FUCK.... DOWN!
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Jul 12, 2011 4:37:41 PM CDT
@mel gibsteinberg: Totally agree with your good 3rd movie list
by rsanta74
I might want to add that Nightmare on Elm Street is a bit of an odd series. Out of 9 movies, about half of them are actually good; all for different reasons naturally. There's almost this Star Trek level of unevenness to the franchise.
NoES1: Great flick. Total innovation for the genre. Lots of characterization to both the victims and the killer, in a genre where that really wasn't the case before.
NoES2 - Freddy's Revenge: Abysmal. They ditched Nancy and had the "power of love" conquer Freddy - by the scrunchie chick from Seinfeld no less. Never liked the idea of Freddy coming into the real world to possess people. Some good imagery, but weak sequel:
NoES3 - Dream Warriors: Now we're back in business. Lot of likable victims. Dream powers. Freddy is given a sense of humor, which isn't over done at this point. Nancy returns, as does John Saxon. The series also gets infused with some nice hair metal music too.
NoES4 - Dream Master: Another good movie. Not as awesome as 3 or 1, but it ties up the story arc with the Dream Warriors quite nicely. Had #2 never existed and the series stopped here, it might have been an awesome horror trilogy. The victims are a bit more 2D, but Alice rocks as the Dream Master - Freddy's good guy counterpart. Renny Harlin actually does some interesting stuff here.
NoES5 - Dream Child: WTF happened here?!? The series was batting a solid .66 and all of a sudden it takes a deuce on itself. Now Alice is pregnant, neutered, and powerless? Lame. Lame. Lame. Freddy's humor started to get a little campy in #4, but it really ramps up to just fucking stupid here. Super Freddy!?!? Fuck me... Don't even get me started on Alice's lame friends. Glad they're dead.
NoES6 - Freddy's Dead: THANK FUCKING GOD!!!! Bury that sucker. This movie is shit. Oh, wait. It's shit... in 3D!!!! Not even Alice Cooper or Lisa Zane could save this upper decker. The victims suck and have no personality. Only watch it if you have an insane desire to see a 16 year old Breckin Meyer. The Johnny Depp cameo is nice well integrated, but it's not enough to offset cameos by Roseanne or Tom Arnold.
NoES7 - New Nightmare: And just like that, we're back in awesome territory. No surprise since Wes Craven, Heather Langenkamp, and John Saxon are all back. Plus, it half-way breaks the 4th wall by reinventing Freddy as a demonic creature come to life through stories. Very slick and polished movie. Different than the 1st, but equally good in its own way. Freddy's no longer funny. He's back to fucking scary now.
Freddy Vs Jason: Okay. Let's get it out of the way. This is a Godzilla Vs Mothra sort of affair. You're not going to totally please fans of either slasher. It might also piss off some fans that Freddy takes center stage and that this movie is squarely placed in the NoES continuity. At the same time, as a Vs battle flick, it's pretty damn fun. It's not smart and does play on every cliches, but there are some really memorable fight scenes. Jason Ritter (predictably) hams it up a bit, but Kelly Rowland is a surprisingly fun and funny victim. If you like monster battles, this is a good flick.
NoES1 Remake: THIS is why you don't remake classics. THIS is why you don't let Michael Bay or anybody associated with him near anything you love. Jackie Earl Haley is NO Robert Englund. That's like dressing up Nic Cage in Bela Lugosi's Dracula costume. It just ain't happening. Just as Lugosi defined Drac, there was so much of Englund in Freddy that Haley couldn't do the part justice. Never mind the fact that the makeup was shit. They also crapped on all of the main characters and made them so utterly forgettable. They couldn't even get some of the iconic imagery from the first film right. Very bad. So over-produced that it lost that gritty edge of the original.
WATCH: NoES 1,3,4,7, & FvJ
SKIP: NoES 2,5,6, & Remake
ANYWAY.... I've got zip to say on this Batman teaser. I haven't seen it. Just basing on what I've read, it's typical teaser fare. I'm not bothered by reusing old clips. A 45-60 second teaser isn't designed to do what a 150 second trailer would. It's just doing what teasers do: Tease. Like that date who leads you on all night, but still won't put out even after the lobster. LOL. A teaser's just meant to leave you hot, bothered, and in need of a fucking cold shower. -
But if she's facing me, then I get to rug munch instead of ingesting corn hole kernels, I'd prefer that to be honest.
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Do you prefer Batman Begins to Dark Knight?
And yes, Prestige is very underrated among Nolan films. -
Jul 12, 2011 4:41:25 PM CDT
I'd like to thank solitaire aka: MICHELE BACHMANN'S "HUSBAND" for typing such a lovely message on his jizz-soaked keyboard.
by azultool
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You pretty much called out "Nolanoids" as pathetic losers. Basically saying anyone who was an ardent fan of Nolan's work was a loser. Since I'm assuming you wouldn't call yourself a loser, I assumed you don't consider yourself a fan. Seems logical to me.
Also - "it is also a fact that Inception is one boring pile of shit"
Really? A fact? How do you define facts? What is your basis? Plenty of people found it interesting, engaging, and watchable, I wouldn't call that boring. But go ahead and make more baseless claims and wild accusations, it seems to be easy for you. -
Ha! yeah I kind of expected that the moment I typed it, but using old footage doesn't seem Nolans style? ok I can imagine Lucas doing it if you are correct about ROTS and you're probably right about the potter trailers. oh well I may well be proven wrong but I just have a feeling Nolan won't go down that route.
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In a trilogy? Wayne gets hounded by the cops, and decides after one final fight, to quit. Maybe the Bane Knightfall back breaking scene occurs early on? Then Bruce recovers and comes back to lay the smackdown on Gotham, which is why it's called The Dark Knight Rises?
Anyway, I think this trilogy sets up the mythology, in a different way.
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With very early teasers, you really aren't do much more than letting mass audiences know that you have a movie coming out at a certain time, its really nothing more than a title and a date, everything else is just a means to convey that in a movie trailer, as opposed to just using the poster. It's a marketing ploy.
In the ROTS the trailer starts out with Sir Alec saying "For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were..." whatever he says. Pretty sure that was the movie teaser, and not just a DVD trailer or something else. But could be wrong. -
i guess we'll C. too fuckn early 4 a teaser imo....its a fuckn year away
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That description is totally different to the teaser that's on Youtube. I'd rather believe my eyes than someone's bullshit post.
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Jul 12, 2011 4:52:14 PM CDT
TDKR will be a huge hit,that's for my BUT still i am very curious
by killik
to see how his final BO numbers will compare to TDK's.
Let me explain:
TDK earned about 530m domestically and 470m in the rest of the world.
SM2 earned about 330m in USA and 550m internationally.
That kind of difference between two of the most commercially successful movies in the cinematic history,is not accidental.
IMHO it was Ledger's tragic death,which was overexposed by the Media for at least a month before the movie's premiere,and unforgettable performance which helped the movie tremendously to break the domestic BO records.
I dont deny that Nolan's contribution to those grosses wasnt trivial and that also the genius advertisement campaign helped a lot as well,but still these factors are not enough to explain the above paradox in the movies' BO numbers compared to the ones from other comic and non-comic blockbusters.
In other words if TDKR fails to reach the 530m mark in the domestic BO,then that confirms my theory that without Ledger's death the movie wouldnt have manage to achieve the same commercial domestic success.
If it succeeds to reach that mark,then i was wrong and kudos to Nolan and WB.
anyway we will learn when the film premieres next year.and if i am right my prediction is that the movie will reach about 400m in the domestic BO. -
It still sounds better than some full formed 1st trailers. The first X-Men 1 trailer was so bad. They used footage with bad test CG and lumpy dialog that would end up getting re-written in the final. The final X-Men 1 trailer was even worse. They showed you the whole movie in less than 3 minutes. A lot of flicks do this, but it was insanely annoying here. MIB2 level annoying.
I'd rather a movie trailer cocktease me than give it all up. That's why the X-Men First Class trailers were so good. Even when you thought they gave it all up, they didn't. They held back tons of awesomeness from the trailer. -
Shitty movies make bank all the time (see Transformers Revenge of the Fallen). So are you saying that BO = quality? Or legitimacy as a great film?
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A michele bachmann reference? seriously??
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yeah I hear you, I just find all that re-using old footage a bit weak, like the movie execs think the audience are dumb. "hey remember Batman, the dark knight dude? well he's back! " I think Nolan is a little cleverer than that anyway I just re-watched the rots trailer and you're right it does use old footage. so I retract my original statement - made in purists anger!
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Jul 12, 2011 5:00:05 PM CDT
It's legit folks. The trailer is out there already showing in theaters
by chain
I've seen a screencap of it and a film reel tagged with the label and a computer screen with the files on it.
@robmakesfilms on twitter works at a cinema in Cornwall UK that has it and has shown it.
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Jul 12, 2011 5:02:56 PM CDT
As opposed to your scary brilliant 'I fucked your mom' line. Wow, is that you bringing out the big guns?
by azultool
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Jul 12, 2011 5:04:33 PM CDT
Solitaire...As in alione, staring at your Tom Hardy as Bane picture wondering why your special purpose is standing at attention.
by azultool
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Jul 12, 2011 5:05:33 PM CDT
if you zoom in on gordon's eye you see the joker wearing a superman tee
by zombot
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Jul 12, 2011 5:06:59 PM CDT
@mel gibsteinberg Nolanoids = fanatical hardcore fans of Nolan,completely
by killik
deprived of critical thought,personal taste and common sense.
brainless zealots who would suck Nolan's dick even it was infected with the HIV virus.
when someones yells that TDKR'S poster is *the best movie poster ever made which shows how it is done* you dont exactly call him a normal fan now,dont you?
*You pretty much called out "Nolanoids" as pathetic losers. Basically saying anyone who was an ardent fan of Nolan's work was a loser. Since I'm assuming you wouldn't call yourself a loser, I assumed you don't consider yourself a fan. Seems logical to me.*
as you can see from the above answer of mine,you were wrong.
there are fans,and then there are fans.
*Also - "it is also a fact that Inception is one boring pile of shit"
Really? A fact? How do you define facts? What is your basis? Plenty of people found it interesting, engaging, and watchable, I wouldn't call that boring. But go ahead and make more baseless claims and wild accusations, it seems to be easy for you. *
Like Harry,i almost fell asleep during the movie.and my brother too.that is a fact.so either we all suffer from sleepiness or there is something terrible wrong with the movie.i dont know about you,but my bet is on the latter.
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Jul 12, 2011 5:07:41 PM CDT
If you care more about what a movie makes over what it means to you
by dogsoup
Then you should shove a rabid honey badger up your dickhole before calling yourself a fan of anything.
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in the post about the BO numbers.reread it,try to think carefully what i mean and then try to post again with something related to what i wrote.
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Theyve been filming since May and arent supposed to be finished until November at the earliest. I honestly doubt they have enough footage to show all that in a teaser trailer.
Remember the Dark Knight teaser trailer? Yeah Im thinking thats what this is going to be
I love how everyone gets so hyped up
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Jul 12, 2011 5:13:26 PM CDT
@dogsoup oh i am sorry i didnt know it is a forbidden sin to discuss about
by killik
the BO performances of the movies.you think we shouldnt gossip about the lifestyle of the movie stars of the movies either? it is bad huh?
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Jul 12, 2011 5:14:02 PM CDT
*Remember the Dark Knight teaser trailer? Yeah Im thinking thats what this is going to be*
by killik
FACT
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Jul 12, 2011 5:15:23 PM CDT
KILLIK = Nolan Hating, James Cameron butthole licker. FACT
by umbral_shadow_
This dick has been trolling around here for years. FACT. He used to go under the handle Ominus. FACT. He said Inception would be a box office and critical failure. FACT. He then shamefully changed his handle to Killik, hoping no one would notice. I did. FACT. He permantly has James Cameron's jizz in his eyes. FACT. He is a Nolan hating troll and rapes young children in dark alleys. FACT.
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Don't get me wrong. Joker was the tits. Pure bliss on screen. Oldman is spot on as Gordon too. The tumbler batmobile rocked the house too. Excellently shot. Beautiful looking on film in every way. Both films LOOK amazing. Then again....
- Bale makes an awesome Wayne, but so-so Batman. Apart from the growl, I'm not digging him as any sort of master detective. He just comes off as a rich boy thug with a hard-on for criminals and expensive gadgets. FWIW, I think that Keaton was better. His Batman was kind of a shrimpy, all too real world looking billionaire. However, his Batman had all of that smoldering psychotic intensity that Keaton made famous in his other roles. Plus, Keaton's Batman was much more of a detective than vengeance hungry thug. His Wayne was also more deeply disturbed by his parents' death - as if Batman were the real personality and Bruce was the mask. Bale doesn't strike a solid enough balance between Wayne and Batman, imo.
- Caine's character feels like a proper confident, but not so much like Alfred. He's more like Michael Caine chumming it up with Batman/Wayne.
- Neeson's Ra's al Ghul is just pathetic. Not how he's acted. Neeson's done worse (Star Wars), but he's also done better (Darkman). The problem here is how lame the character is written. Not believable as Ra's. Not threatening in the least, especially when he can be taken down easily enough by a year one Batman.
- Two Face.... Would've been good for his own movie. They crammed his story into TDK, which probably made the main Joker arc suffer. Two Face's appearance only served to pad the movie to an overly long runtime.
- Isn't Morgan Freeman tired of playing the wise old black dude part? It's nice to see him as being somewhat of a techie instead of the sage, but he doesn't contribute much.
- Gyllenhaal or Holmes. The audience knows the difference. You can't pass off one for the other. It's like comparing a BK Stacker to a filet mignon.
- Nice gritty real world look, but Burton's gothic vision for Gotham was far more visually pleasing.
I don't think ANYBODY has gotten the Batman franchise 100% right yet. TDK comes close in some key respects, but misses the mark in others. Same thing with the Burton Batman films. So totally on the mark in some big ways, but way off base in others - like DeVito's Penguin or Nicholson's Joker.
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Jul 12, 2011 5:15:59 PM CDT
I'm also thinking that the YouTube teaser could just be...
by cletus van damme
...voice overs on a still shot of Bane that was released a month ago.
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I came out of late night preview of HPotter here in the uk....
it actually starts with a shot of the joker rotoscoped on to andy serkis in drag, shouting let me outta here!! next there is an almighty explosion, quite possibly the biggest ever seen on film. it then cuts to a still photo graph of Morgan freeman smiling.
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Jul 12, 2011 5:23:26 PM CDT
*He said Inception would be a box office and critical failure.*
by killik
fucking liar.i never said that.and i dare you to prove it.and i changed my nick because killik is what i use in the other forums.
you know umbral,this is not the first time that you personally attack me with those sycophancies and i cant understand the reason.why all that hate? did i do something wrong with you? did i rape your mother or something?
i dont know what is it with you,but dude chill out.this is a site where we talk about movies and are having some fun and life is too short to spend it with this kind of petty things.
*and rapes young children in dark alleys.*
was one of those chilndren,you? that might explain your hate against me.HA. -
Jul 12, 2011 5:24:44 PM CDT
*...voice overs on a still shot of Bane that was released a month ago. *
by killik
yeah that's what i thought.but i think Bane moves his shoulders in the supposed teaser.but it is too blurry so i might be wrong.
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Jul 12, 2011 5:25:47 PM CDT
@jasonicus: I've got Inception here and I'm afraid to watch it because
by rsanta74
I'm afraid it'll break my love affair with Dreamscape, which I nominate for the "Movie Most Deserving of a Remake" award. =) I'm also not too sold on the dream within a dream within a dream bullshit.
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if only someone could adapt that series into a movie...who knows maybe someday..
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Jul 12, 2011 5:33:45 PM CDT
i like INCEPTION but the dreams were too consistently realistic
by zombot
the chances of each subject, every time having 'normal' dreams- is microscopic. even normal, realistic dreams are tinged with weirdness, changing roles, pissing in decrepit bathrooms, losing teeth, finding money, not being able to run....etc
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Jul 12, 2011 5:36:57 PM CDT
batman animated series: will be at least another 10-20 years until it is met or surpassed
by zombot
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which i have and i am not kidding.
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Jul 12, 2011 5:40:03 PM CDT
@killik: Yeah. Batman TAS does seem like the best of the Burton and Nolan worlds
by rsanta74
Would make an awesome movie, but WB/DC doesn't totally have their shit together when it comes to their movies. Not like Marvel, at least. It'd take a monumental effort to pull off a faithful, yet more adult oriented live action version of TAS. Not positive that the higher ups would do it or that audiences would be so quick to reject the Nolanverse and all of the actual good stuff that implies.
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i read it on another website, but it goes more in details on Batman looking tired and weary backing from Bane, like in KNIGHTFALL!
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I've been keeping dream journals for 4 or 5 years now. Most of them err on the side of more realistic. Very little surreal or freaky shit. I think that it might be because I'm more of an active dreamer, aware that I'm dreaming, than a passive one. Still... Not all dreams are about flying monkeys disturbing you and your prom date with midget Frankenfurter. =)
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both have handled adult issues of death, murder and vicious CRIME far better than any of the flicks so far, and they were goddamned children's cartoons!
what the fuck, movies? i mean, TDK came close, but...well, hopefully pt 3 will be fucked UP. -
You must don't like great movies!
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Sucker Punch had better dream worlds than Inception did.
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Overall, I've enjoyed most of Nolan's films.
Memento is a masterpiece. Insomnia is a solid remake. Batman Begins is a terrific restart of a series that was nearly destroyed by Schumacher. The Prestige is equally commendable.
However, starting with The Dark Knight, things started to take a turn for the worse. It starts well enough. The middle section, with the Batpod chase and jail interrogation, is tremendous. The third act is incredibly poor though. The ferry scene is nonsense. Two-Face is wasted. For a movie that many were calling the greatest comic book film ever or even on par with The Godfather, that just doesn't hold muster. It is quite a flawed film.
Things only got worse with Inception. The cult of Nolan, which was formed after the fervor of TDK, which in itself was formed partially due to the death of Heath Ledger, had already deemed his follow-up to be the one bastion of smart filmmaking going into the summer of 2010... sight unseen. It was crowned a masterpiece ahead of time. Cognitive dissonance pretty much prevented most people from realizing that the emperor had no clothes. They had invested too much into it. Whenever you told anyone that the movie might be bad, the "In Nolan we Trust" theocracy shut you down.
Inception is simply not a good movie. The characters are all 2-dimensional. I didn't care about any of them. The action made no sense... especially the snow fortress scene. The plot has way too much exposition. A telltale sign of a poor script. The only thing it had going for it were nice visuals and a great Zimmer score.
Nolan is no god. He is much better than the Bays and McGs of the world, but to worship him is just juvenile.
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no matter how bad ass you are, how many gadgets you have, a moral, one man fight against villany ends in disaster. bat's is gonna learn he needs a larger network of allies, or to make batman 'itself' an organization (like the league of shadows, but somehow more 'just' or humane??
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Are they working in that angle? I can dig that.
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Watch how we steal your money for a 3rd time. =)
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whether you take it at face value, or think leo is trapped in the dream at the end, or believe the entire thing is a dream, or even consider the fact that all the characters are representative of different aspects of leo's personality or mind, you have to say this: it was a very tepid way to stretch a two second philosopical/theoretical concept into a full movie.
i like inception but think if it was distilled and polished into an hour twilight zone episode.
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I'm not sure why Harry went with Nightcrawler. Might be cause I emailed him in the middle the night. AS far the grammar goes, I sent that in no my HTC Thunderbolt. And anyone who uses smart phones knows the auto correct can be a bitch.
ABout me and how I saw the trailer, I'm an IMAX projectionist. we received our HP7.2 print yesterday along with the trailer. I came in early today to watch the trailer so I could send it along for everyone. I was only able to screen it once, as it takes some time to thread up a IMAX 1570 machine. THe reason for no video or pictures is simple, I ran it once and I was busy watching it and trying to get everything written down to send in. I then went back and listened to The audio a bunch of times to get that.
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I'm not sure why Harry went with Nightcrawler. Might be cause I emailed him in the middle the night. AS far the grammar goes, I sent that in no my HTC Thunderbolt. And anyone who uses smart phones knows the auto correct can be a bitch.
ABout me and how I saw the trailer, I'm an IMAX projectionist. we received our HP7.2 print yesterday along with the trailer. I came in early today to watch the trailer so I could send it along for everyone. I was only able to screen it once, as it takes some time to thread up a IMAX 1570 machine. THe reason for no video or pictures is simple, I ran it once and I was busy watching it and trying to get everything written down to send in. I then went back and listened to The audio a bunch of times to get that.
Also have a correction on that, the last thing Gordon says is "He must, he must" not humour me like I thought before. -
There are some concepts that just shouldn't be taken past that 1hr length. Look at the episode that inspired the movie "The Box" for example. Solid concept. Very cool. Take it to full length and it loses steam. You could literally tell where the film makers ran out of source material and starting winging it. Some stuff is just more deserving of a shorter format. I think that's part of what's got me so amped about the idea that Marvel might be doing some short films. Some of their characters and teams are awesome, but just not awesome enough for 2hr movies. Honestly, that's exactly why I enjoyed the Jonah Hex animated short more than the actual Josh Brolin live action turd.
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Is it really so difficult for people to accept that some of us just like Nolan's take on Batman? I've been reading Batman comics since childhood and for me his films are a great version of the character. The Animated Series is a masterpiece, some of the other animated outings are well worth the watch and the other live action films I don't like at all.
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Jul 12, 2011 6:03:19 PM CDT
right!-'limited palette' is often better for fiction, etc, rsanta
by zombot
keeping a concept simple. leaving things unexplained but the mind filling in the details. gets people thinking about morality, theoretical science, the meaning of life- the best short stories do it.
a good writer, artist or director can do so much with a limited palette at their disposal. even in a two hour movie. night of the living dead never leaves the farmhouse. the THING never leaves a remote station. in both cases not only is there a shortage of facts about what is going on but the entire scope is small. in both cases the stories blossom to represent a larger metaphor, or several metaphors.
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that is my theory!
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Of course Inception dreams are more "normal". the dreams have been built up that way. They've been "constructed" so the dudes can navigate.
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There IS a lot of merit to Nolan's take on the Batman franchise. I don't deny that. At the same time, it's also quite uneven and flawed in places. The Nolanverse, contrary to what the most rabid fanboy might claim, is NOT the much sought after holy grail of comic book movies. It certainly represents a maturation of the genre and is itself a level above the old Batman serials of the 40s, but it still has its own glaring problems.
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Jul 12, 2011 6:12:52 PM CDT
An Arrowhead, A Blueflower, A Broken Strand of Pearls, and the Coin
by thejudger
I wonder if these symbols will show up in this film.
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Agreed, it's not perfection and it does have it's flaws. But as a lifelong Batman fan I'm happy that the film versions of our favourite Dark Knight have gone in the direction they have under Nolan's watch. After he's done with Batman I'd like to see the films reincorporate some of the more fantastical elements of Batman. But taken as a series on it's own, Nolan's Batman films aren't perfect - just really good and better than what went before.
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Jul 12, 2011 6:21:36 PM CDT
I ask that you correct any obvious grammar and punctuation errors I may make.
by countorlok
Yeah, good luck with that.
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Remember their Catwoman picture exclusive?
You guys are muppets!
Oh, speaking of DC movies, where's that exclusive Man of Steel photo?
That's right- also fake.
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Jul 12, 2011 6:25:25 PM CDT
the difference is that I am NOT Michele Bachmanns "husband"...
by solitaire
...while I DID fuck your mom. I am seriously hurt here...I spent all day waiting to tell you I fucked your mom, y'know, working on the presentation and everything.
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thank you for telling me I'm alione, Is that italian for "I'm a lion", or perhapse I am the number one fan of Ali? I'm glad I have you around to tell me these things. I'm the one getting a pants tent over Tom Hardy? Your'e the one that writes like you type with one hand you ignorant fuck
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God, are they really using such a trite, tired old type of line for this thing? Is this going to be a parody or a real movie?
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WAAAAH They're gonna kill off Batman WAAAAAAAH just like they killed off Spock WAAAAAH Oh wait...
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Nolan will never top Memento.
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Jul 12, 2011 7:58:57 PM CDT
Cut to Gordon in a hospital bed laying on his side. Looks to be in serious pain.
by stargrove
Yep, Bane raped him. Gordon: "We were in this together, then you were gone(Batman chickened out and bailed on Gorden while visting Bane's sex den) ......."Now this Evil rises" (Gorden cannot come to grips that he actually liked it as made obvious by hospital gown tent). Catchman's suspicions of Nolan's "inclinations" were obviously well aimed. Nolan is clearly going all "out" for this one.
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At least,not as right as The Animated Series. The Schumacher films were too campy and stupid but Nolan and co. have overcorrected and made Bats TOO realistic. Batman,when done right,should play like a dark opera... thats why TAS and related shows like Batman Beyond and Justice League are so awesome. I hope and pray that when the WB decides to reboot the Bat-Universe yet again they turn to the likes of Bruce Timm,Paul Dini,and Alan Burnett...turning those guys loose on a big budget live-action film(or better yet a live-action HBO series)...goddamn that would be epic beyond belief. Dare to dream fanboys...dare to dream.
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Is it done like a windows slideshow with groovy transition effects? Sounds odd and or cheap,unless it's a 3D animated version of the poster....? I smell the b.s.
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Really? Comic and movie news makes you get hard and ejaculate? Ok, fanBOYS, maybe. I for one am a man and no matter how much I might like a particular movie, I'll save my baby gravy for the ladies. Can we please cut back on the stiffie and ball snot talk?
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this sounds suspicious. Would they really use footage from past movies? That right away makes you think of all the fake fan made trailers out there.
A Heroes Journey comes to an end? Really? What, are there a hundred thousand Batman comics out there? His journey never ends. They sure as fuck aren't going to kill him.
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I now believe more that this could indeed be the description of the DKR teaser.
However, the reason I believe this more now is because upon going back to the DK trailer I cannot believe how lame and terrible that actually is. If I didn't know for sure that was the DK teaser I would have thought it was fan made. Very poor quality but this description is exactly along the same lines as that teaser. In fact I've seen fake fan made trailers for Batman on youtube that were far better quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCZdatww69w
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Ok, I guess I misunderstood. I know this is Nolan's last Batman and yes, the world he created may go with him.
It wouldn't surprise me if the studio continued. They can do what they want. That could take the form of a reboot or maybe it would just be seen as a reboot by the public because Nolan was no longer attached.
Even if they made another film straight away and Nolan and Bale were not involved, maybe even Oldman too it wouldn't necessarily be a reboot it could be a continuation whether it was seen by the public that way or not. -
I mean, someone has to have the balls to cam it- projectionists! Come on!
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seeing potter on saturday. looking forward to this trailer more than i am the pottah.
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What score? You mean the BWAAAAAAAAAAAAANG reaches a fever pitch.
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Nolan better pull it, quick! Audio and video clips from Batman Begins, combined with pseudo philosophical and unimaginative subtitles?? They can't be following up that teaser poster with THAT. Even if this trailer only amounted to one single clip of footage from TDKR... people would lose their minds. Anything remotely relevant to this movie, is better than that. Sounds awful.
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It cracks me up how many of you think its fake still. This is what the trailer is, I may be wrong on the wording on the second card and there's a very good chance it says "every Journey comes to an end" I was trying to write everything down that was on screen and enjoy the trailer at the same time.
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It cracks me up how many of you think its fake still. This is what the trailer is, I may be wrong on the wording on the second card and there's a very good chance it says "every Journey comes to an end" I was trying to write everything down that was on screen and enjoy the trailer at the same time.
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can you tell us about the Avengers teaser?
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One of the very few able to match Batman on wits and physically. I feel sad for those of you who only know him through the Clooney garbage. He could be great if done right.
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Just kiddin'. I'm in Canada and the description isn't showing up at all. Wrong region I guess.
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And think he is lamer than hell. But, everyone has their own personal taste in Batman foes. I prefer the arch-criminals over the supervillains.
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User tdkspoiler posted it..cam from theater..doesn't match description...
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Its fine if people want to call it fake and say crap about how Nolan would never let this be released and this is sad. I can't wait till Thursday night when everyone sees the trailer and its exactly what they read it was.
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You're the biggest shit in the piss river known as the Talkbacks.
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Grey's Anatomy? I think this idiot found some fan made thing somewhere and got fooled.
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How well can you see banes face? Description?
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Just like the rest....couple of clips of Hardy from Bronson with voice overs....so lame already.......
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At the end of Gordon's lines a front shot of Bane is flashed on screen for a second at most, its very quick and you can't get much detail other then it looks like a scary mother
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz9hIcvKW50
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For one reason: Bale is the most physically imposing Batman, and so far his foes haven't exactly been a physical threat (although Ra's put up a nice fight on the train). I would like to see Bale's Batman go toe-to-toe with a physical threat, and I can't think of a better choice for that than Bane. Also, I have a feeling Nolan will give us the intelligent Bane of the comics, who mentally breaks down his foe before facing him. While Bane isn't the obvious choice, I'm excited to see what Nolan does with him.
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...'cos even as Bronson he wasn't *that* imposing. Certainly not enough to take down a six-foot two bloke in body armour, anyway.
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Jul 13, 2011 2:22:39 AM CDT
the only thing that sucks by this epic sounding movie is that it aint the joker in the las movie!batman should fight the joker in the last one
by captaindickbloodsrobot
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Jul 13, 2011 3:28:05 AM CDT
It makes you wonder if we could see a non traditional ending...
by dancingforever
Where the hero doesn't necessairly win. It seems to be a trend with Lost, Inceptuion, and Jon Snow being killed in the latest Game of Thrones book.
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Actually I hope it's nothing like knightfall. The story is too long and too complex to be watered down for a 150 minute movie...
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=lArptIW3dOM
THIS is the teaser that is being discussed - there is NO new footage in it, the only thing is the animated teaser poster at the end. Ridiculous, even worse than the TDK teaser four years ago... -
I'm so bloody curious to know how they conclude this trilogy. Does Gordon know Wayne is Batman?? Does Wayne give up his Bat-mantle forever??? Does Bane break everybody's fucking backs?? Do the League of Shadows steal a device that evaporates buildings??? Fuck!!!
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I thought it was supposed to be 1:30 minutes long? Why is that only a minute? haha....
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Gordon (raspy): "NYAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGG!!!!|
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It amazes me how some of you still don't like the villain. What better a challenge can Batman face other than the villain that breaks him? Knightfall storyline sounds great to me.
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I have just bought 'A Dance With Dragons' and am three chapters in and you post that?
Harry, please ban this wanker. Ban him now! -
Jul 13, 2011 8:34:33 AM CDT
If you think about it, Batman didnt face any real challenge in
by killik
either movie.
In BB,even though he was still an inexperienced fighter,he easilly defeated Ras and his minions despite the fact that they were more in numbers and better experienced warriors with a longtime training of more than just 5 years..
Hell the guy managed to destroy their secret HQ and make them his bitch in less than a minute,even though he had just graduated.
talk about realism and dangerous,larger than life, villains..
In TDK things are even worse.What was his main opponent in the intro and final battle? dogs.yes ladies and genlemen Batman battled and defeated dogs.TWICE.
there was also a crazy clown with a knife,but he didnt possess any danger, something which was even acknowledged by himself.
At least with Bane,it seems that Nolan tries to rectify this major flaw of his previous movies.Μaybe this time Batman will have to face a very dangerous,psycally imposing and life-treating enemy whose combat skills really match his.
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Lots of folks on Superhero Hype have claimed to see it, but they aren't giving the link for fear off being banned from the site.
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It's not that cut and dry. Besides do you really think Dancingforever actually read the book already? Just a trollie troll troll.
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That viral marketing was real. Where they chant, "IT IS BUTTER, BUTTER. IT IS BUTTER BUTTER."
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Crappy video camera quality, but the description above is accurate. Just search on Dark Knight rises, there are several up there.
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2 hours is just not enough time.
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Jul 13, 2011 9:08:22 AM CDT
BTW - The one thing that bothered me about the Dark Knight
by i_snake_plissken
I still don’t get why Batman had to take the fall for the dead cops/DA. When you’ve got a maniac running around town blowing things up and killing people left and right, wouldn’t it be very easy to say, “the Joker was responsible.”
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The trailer just got removed, but it fits the discription
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of honor.you know the same code of honor which allows him to let people die in cold blood.
that or the script mayyyyybe is not that well written as the Nolanoids make it to be.
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Jul 13, 2011 9:20:26 AM CDT
They would be pinning the murders on the Joker, who was innocent
by xen11
of the crime. The Joker would win.
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or the next Buddha.aha.
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in case you didnt notice.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmwcQsy5d4o
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Jul 13, 2011 9:29:50 AM CDT
Batman dsoes not Kill, not sworn to protect all life big difference
by katet19
No one dies by his hand, but weighing the good he could do alive against dying to attempt saving a megalomaniac with a horse cock is a pretty defensible choice in my book.
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Jul 13, 2011 9:35:26 AM CDT
If Joker was morally responsible for those murders because he created Two-Face, then
by xen11
society is morally responsible for creating the Joker. The Joker is merely a moral response to the corruption of society. The Joker is right. The Joker is humanity screaming out against the crime of corruption.
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get your batman facts straight.if Batman is in a position where he can save the life of someone,even if he is his most swornl enemy,he will try to save him.
He even wounded Robin,the one who was killed by Joker, in order to prevent him from killing Joker for revenge.
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this is going to be all kinds of awesome!
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because of the simple fact that noone knows anything about the origin of Joker in the movie.
The guy kept lying in the movie about his past and even if it was true what he said,then it had nothing to do with society but rather with family/couple issues.
GC was responsible for the birth of Batman,as it was shown in BB,but was it also responsible for the creation of Joker? we dont know because there is no established info in TDK which shows that.
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Jul 13, 2011 9:42:33 AM CDT
*The Joker is humanity screaming out against the crime of corruption.*
by killik
by killing innocent people.right.Hitler had a similar ideology.
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Trust me. But I urge everyone to see it before Potter.... Or wait for the official online.
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:39 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:39 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:39 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:39 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:40 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:40 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:41 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:42 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:42 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:43 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:44 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:44 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:44 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:44 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:45 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:45 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:45 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:45 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:46 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:46 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:46:46 AM CDT
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption
by xen11
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Jul 13, 2011 9:49:44 AM CDT
Yeah, somehow I think Batman could live with himself….
by i_snake_plissken
“Batman, although this asshole just blew up a hospital and killed at least 30 cops, we’ll be crossing the line if we pin these deaths on the Joker.”
“Works for me.”
“Yeah, me too.”
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Jul 13, 2011 9:49:56 AM CDT
Finger got caught on 'enter' and things went crazier than usual.
by xen11
The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption causes a reaction in the form of chaos - THE JOKER - who holds the mirror up to society and gives back what was received.
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Jul 13, 2011 9:53:50 AM CDT
Are you saying, "The action of wrongfully making the innocent guilty because of corruption?"
by i_snake_plissken
Somehow, I'm sensing this is your position.
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First of all it varies wildly from writer to writer. In the comic story line Batman stops Jason from murdering the Joker, more to help Jason than the joker, and the joker blows the building up. He doesn't directly save the Joker, he's trying to save this boy's soul who helead down a path of "super heroism"Batman makes no attempt to save the joker, or fish through the rubble to make sure he doesn't have a collapsed lung or is suffering some grizzly fate. In the recent Final Crisis Batman broke two supposedly unbreakable golden rules not killing and not wielding a gun in an attempt to shoot and Kill Darkseid. Not to mention Batman most likely knows the man who taught him everything he knows is just as capable as he'd be when it comes to escaping near death.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgHXIkUE7ho
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Jul 13, 2011 10:20:38 AM CDT
That trailer will be taken down faster than intelligent life in a room of Conservatives
by xen11
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it has terrible video quality.just be patient and wait for the official HD version.it is a matter of days or maybe even hours to be put on the net.
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Jul 13, 2011 11:01:14 AM CDT
Sorry, this sounds like a terrible trailer.
by chronicallydepressedlemming
The Batman.....HAS to come back."
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I actually had an alternative, better one outlined but the talkback ate it. seriously, fuck this shitty software.
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Jul 13, 2011 12:21:28 PM CDT
Dialogue in teaser hard to understand...
by turd_has_risen_from_the_gravy
yeah, just like in many of Nolan's recent movies. They have terrible sound mixing for some reason. I still don't know half of what Ken Watanabe was muttering about at the start of Inception.
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Because some of us see Batman as an extension of the detective genre and not just a superhero/action hero. For me, I also enjoyed Batman enjoyed in battles of wits with villains instead of just fights.
And the entire "Bane broke the Bat" thing seems redundant. He physically challenged him, great; Joker in the last movie pushed him to the limits of his moral convictions and own beliefs. How is anything that Bane does in the next movie going to compare to anything that Joker did (hurting Batman isn't nearly as hard on Bruce as killing his childhood sweetheart and corrupting a man he admires, and still not pushing him to kill the joker)?
Maybe Nolan has a great Bane story, but I still wish he picked a different villain. -
That's what I think Gordon says at the end.
Also, you can see a bare hand at the bedside, meaning that's Bruce and not Batman. Gordon knows, and I think that's awesome. Also, Gordon is a good cop and detective, of course he'd figure it out. Not 60s TV show Gordon, but comic book / Nolan-verse Gordon? It's a no-brainer. -
http://www.pinkisthenewblog.com/2011/07/first-look-the-batman-the-dark-knight-rises-trailer-leaks-to-the-internets/
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Someone else heard "He must". "Humor me"?? Give me a break. Also, it's "Every JOURNEY has an end". Not "hero". And no, this isn't fake morons and it's actually well done teaser.
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LOL! You've all been punked.
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