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Ridley Scott Isn't Afraid Of Pesky Volcanoes, And Is In Iceland To Shoot...WHAT??
Merrick here...
A reader named John pointed us towards a Nordic news report about the filming of PROMETHEUS in Iceland.
Two choice quotes jumped out at me here. The first is Sir Ridley's response to the threat of a volcanic eruption at a shooting location for the film. Said threat later proved erroneous - it's his response to initial reports that I find amusing. I've heard very similar tales about Scott from folks who worked with him on other projects. He's not easily deterred...
“If one is afraid of nature in this profession then it would be best to find a different job,” director Ridley Scott told reporters at a short meeting in central Reykjavik before heading off to Hekla to film — less than a week after international media erroneously reported that Hekla was about to blow its top any moment. Scott said he did not lose any sleep over the ominous news reports.
The second noteworthy comment might be considered a SPOILER, as...if Scott is being literal/straight-up about this...it's an intriguing indicator of the breadth of this picture. I've been way out-of-the-loop over the past few weeks - I can't shake the pneumonia that's been beating me down - so I apologize if this detail has already been mentioned elsewhere (I'm not aware that it has).
The director confirmed that Iceland will not play the starring role in Prometheus: “It will be 15 minutes in total, if all goes to plan. We are shooting the beginning of time.”
The. Beginning. Of. Time.
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Per THIS report at IceNews.
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July 11, 2011, 12:29 p.m. CST
This should be the Number 1 one every respectable Geek's list of most anticipated movies.
by Mozzerino
Riddles returns to Sci-Fi, to reinvigorate the Alien-franchise, with Michael Fassbender and Noomi Rapace in the leads. It almost sounds too good to be true. When is this coming out again? Tomorrow, I hope...
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Pinewood Studios has burned down like 3 times in the past 30 years? Scottish Lightning?
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Very...hard.
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Alien is one of the finest films ever made as far as I am concerned.
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I'm sold. That and I'm fast becoming a bender for Fassbender..
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Anything else in the mean-time to keep us entertained? I'll answer my own question: Not fuckin' likely.
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July 11, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST
This is going to disappoint so many when it has nothing to do with Aliens!
by LowDevil
IT IS NOT A PREQUEL!!
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Scott will deliver, oh boy, will he deliver.
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July 11, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST
Shoehorning 2001 concepts into the Alien Universe = LAME
by AnarchyWorldsEnd
This is going to be a well intentioned misfire. If only PWSuck hadn't royally fucked up Alien vs Predator... And if Alien Ressurection never happened... And if Alien 3 had been it's own thing without Ripley (or the original script that had the Earth War concept from the Dark Horse comics)... We wouldn't have them feeling the need to go this prequal route :-( It seems all the nest Alien stories are unused scripts and comics. Only the shite makes it to the screen.
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Nothing even comes close. No, not even the mighty TDKR.
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Several months ago, I actually got around to reading H.P. Lovecraft's stories and it was a revelation; both of how ahead of his time he was and how much today's horror/sci-fi derives (to put it mildly) from him, especially the ALIEN saga. Judging by what we've heard of the plot, it sounds like Scott is making Prometheus (consciously or not) his Lovecraft mix-tape. So remind me WHY Universal pulled the plug on the Del Toro/Cruise/Cameron AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS again?
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thank goodness, it's Ridley. Can you imagine somebody else with an original script getting the funding like he can? You go boy. Hell, he should bring in his brother on this one and make it action packed, too. The whole project sounds inspired, immense and AWESOME!
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...followed by the rest of it?
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...and I hope it isn't a direct prequel to the Alien franchise in the traditional sense. I like the idea of the chariots of the gods connection and the plot rumors surrounding it. That sounds interesting. Ancient Aliens baby!
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July 11, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST
DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THAT IN THE RECENT LEAKED SET PHOTOS... THE ONES FOX HAD PULLED, SHOWING THE GIANT, GIGER-LIKE ENTRYWAY...
by Astronut
That the top of the arch shows what appears to be an alien head with its jaw open? No one has mentioned that, but that is what I'm seeing... Go here, these guys still have the pics: http://xenomorph-hive.net/2011/07/more-prometheus-set-pictures-leaked/ And what are all those "things" stacked up... are those - - eggs??!! Anyone??!!!!!!! (can't wait for this, I'm gonna sheet me drawers for sure)
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Oh Ridley, please complete me. The Beginning of time eh'? Masterpiece me up you crazy mother you.... You who have given me Alien. BladeRunner.Legend. Black Rain. Hannibal(fuck you haters). Gladiator. Kingdom of Heaven(Scott version natch). Gimme your reason to exist.... I live in a world utterly and completely seperate from yours yet I demand MY PERFECTION!!!!! Wow these mushies make me paragraph....
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July 11, 2011, 1 p.m. CST
(and to think I was wasting time over on that horrible Tin Tin TB........)
by Astronut
I would rather read news about Ridley Scott polishing his boots on the PROMETHEUS set than watch that shitty TIN TIN trailer again. Ugh. Talk about "fail."
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Sir Ridley Scott is the today's recipient of the Werner Herzog Award For Filmmaking Badassery In The Face Of Adverse Nature. Mother nature my ass!!
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Saw the photos - no idea what it all is other than massive coolness.
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July 11, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST
And by the way - no one needs to give a damn if this is not an Alien movie...
by ClayMatthews
...it is Scott doing real Sci Fi for the first time since '82. If you are not "there" for this you are on the wrong site.
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You could not possibly get me to become more excited about this film than I already am. I do searches for news about it every day! In fact, I watched A L I E N again for the 57th time last night to satiate my hunger for this prequel. Looks great on Blu-Ray. Damn good. Then after I watched the movie I watched the "making of" stuff. Just soaking up every last little piece of info and also listening closely to Ridley talk about "possible origins" of the space jockey... it's fascinating to me. A L I E N is my #1 favorite sci-fi film of all time and to me, it is far more grand and amazing than ALIENS. As good a movie as ALIENS is, I think it is overrated a bit. When I was younger I used to think it was "better" than the original because it had so much more action. But then as I got older I started to wake up to the fact that the original A L I E N is legendary, superb filmmaking... and than the Cameron sequel is good but nowhere near the piece of epic nature of the original.
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for this film on IMDB? Very interesting.
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I have lost faith in Scott long ago, but I think the promising thing in this movie is Giger working on it!
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Fox finally put out a fairly vague paragraph about the basic set-up for the film but everything else online posing as a "synopsis" or a "set visit" has been fan-created lies and nonsense. Everything from that fake "Alien Harvest" script to the "2058" synopsis you refer to is total bullshit. It's like "Indiana Jones and the Sons of Darkness" all over again. And I have to say, I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled that virtually nothing about this film has leaked yet, aside from the occasional spy photo or Scott's cryptic comments. This is, without a doubt, my #1 most anticipated film of 2012.
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For me, the main appeal of the original film is its "mystique"... it's "world of the unknown" ... that is what we are going to get with PROMETHEUS! IT'S A WIN/WIN Doing this as a prequel that is not focussed on the actual "alien" monster was so smart. I think it was the smartest thing Ridley could have done and for several reasons: 1) The actual "alien" monster is played out 2) The franchise was soiled by bad sequels and AVP 3) Ridley knows it is pointless to try and "out-do" himself by making another film centered on the "alien" monster itself We will get imagination like we have not seen in a very long time. In fact, if all goes as I think it will, this film will take a furious DUMP all over Avatar.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/plotsummary If so, my bad.
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July 11, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST
lowdevil, it will have Aliens in it... mark my words... the proof is out there.
by Nick
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Mark my words.
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never thought a scifi-horror movie could get my most anticipated movie in 2012. anyone knows, if Scott is still planning on shooting two prequels ?
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oops, too late!
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I think this was too! Mark my words
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Fucking wake up ... IT IS! They aren't the main focus until the second half but they are there. Accept it.
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which the studio denies, might have something to it after all. Doesn't it involve a race of advanced aliens populating earth?
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He'll have no-one to blame but himself if it isn't.
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I just want another great sci-fi. Because I'm greedy.
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July 11, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST
"[the aliens] aren't the main focus until the second half but they are there." Where did you read that?
by Astronut
As far as everything I have read, the main focus is on "Gods... the engineers of space and time..." Yeah, the space jockeys utilize a method to harvest worlds by letting xenomorphs clean it up etc, but I don't think xenomorphs are the pivotal enemy for the main characters to engage. I think the main focus is going to be on the whole space jockey aspect and NEW creatures/dangers. Ridley told the main guy in charge of creating monsters that he needed to be "better than Giger." So you know there are going to be some tripped-out things taking place and not just the egg/face-hugger/alien scenario. That stuff is played out. We've all seen it a hundred times. Ridley knows this. He will blow minds. It's not mainly about the "alien." Prepare to have your mind fucking blown.
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July 11, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST
Pre-Human DNA Aliens... we will see their lifecycle before being introduced to our DNA
by Nick
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the Hobbit, to Lord of the Rings. Think of the Ring, as the Xenomorph.. whereas, in Alien and it's sequels, it was the main focus, Prometheus will be just about how they came to be, with the importance being on their creators.
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There is no fucking way he is shooting 'The Beginning of Time'. He is shooting a volcano in Iceland in 2011. Nobody can go back in time. I hate it when these Hollywood types hype up shit about their projects.
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You know what one of those LEAKED set pictures looks like to me? The Nostromo ENGINE ROOM. I'm not saying that's what it is but it has a little of that look. Look at the 4th picture down. http://www.zen171398.zen.co.uk/Alien%20(page3).html
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July 11, 2011, 2 p.m. CST
natalieportmansyummyafterbirth.... that sounds like a very logical way to describe it, judging by what we know (which granted, is not a lot)
by Astronut
I like your description in spite of your shocking screen name... lol
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July 11, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST
Yeah, I really don't care how or if it 'fits' the ALIEN saga.
by blackwood
I want to see a new big-idea science fiction film directed by someone who can comfortably stand with Kubrick as having a definitive vision that literally shaped what science fiction is in the human imagination. Just... fuck yeah, man.
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going into a meeting right now... which pic are you refering to, the top exterior shot of the Nostromo?
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The photo underneath the text ENGINE ROOM DETAILING. http://www.zen171398.zen.co.uk/Alien%20(page3).html Look at the leaked picture of the weird egg like things that are sort of stacked in a circle around those bent pillars. I'm not saying this is what it is but they look similar. Maybe some sort of Biomechanical Engine Room or other Tech.
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..the leaked synopsis was right on the money. Which was weirdly denied by Fox. But every time we hear snippets about scenes being shot, they sound like something from the synopsis.
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July 11, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST
At this point the WEIRDER Prometheus is the BETTER. It needs to be CRAZY WEIRD beyond anything we have ever seen. I don't care if people are offended. Make it BIZARRE.
by Darth_Kong
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That kinda sounds dirty, don´t it.
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best country on Earth. Beautiful place to live. Times are rough there at the moment but i'm moving back there as soon as it is feasible. <P> Beginning of time? Like when everything was just some gluon plasma for millions of years?
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Keep peeking behind the curtain and, in this day and age, you'll end up knowing the entire plot and seeing pictures of half the movie. You want to go into Prometheus fresh don't you?
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crumbling. first milly dowler had her phone hacked , then 7/7 families, then the soldiers who died in the afghan and iraq wars, then gordon brown and now 9/11 victims it has been alleged. the murdoch family are in utter panic and the old bullfrog is considering sellin off all of news corps assets. will that include 20th century fox. I wonder..... and will that jeopardise this alien film.
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This gives me hope that the film will portray the fossilisation of the Space Jockey in the Derelict over the course of billions of years, rather than shoehorning his demise into the decades preceding the first film with a bullshit explanation for the fast-fossilised state of his remains. The dead Space Jockey should be kept ancient and Lovecraftean.
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July 11, 2011, 2:24 p.m. CST
BTW I don't see how this is a SPOLIER. The leaked pics on alienprequelnews.com is a SPOILER.
by Darth_Kong
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July 11, 2011, 2:25 p.m. CST
It's like saying, SPOILER, the movie takes place in space.
by Darth_Kong
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Minus Gary Sinise's guyliner?
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after AvP, DH4 and T4 i dont think i could take another one. those hit HARD...especially T4 - still remember the little [PG13] logo at the bottom left of the Pizza Hut ad the level of sheer contempt for fans by making R rated series PG13 is staggering
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Seriously, with a title like prometheus why do I have a feeling that the audience finds out the aliens are genetically engineered. Perhaps by the race that the space jockey belongs to.
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show a good alien, vs Weyland the man, fighting atop a volcano... the Alien falls into the volcano and turns into Darth Alien.
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More interested now. Was otherwise kind of Meh about yet another Aliens tale. How many stomachs can explode in one lifetime? Well one per person I guess.
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July 11, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST
Probably some stupid scene where a caveman finds an alien or something.
by Yelsaeb
That's how it always goes.
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Yeah. I hope to god this an "R"........ not "PG-13"........ No watered-down pseudo violence. I want hard core violence and profanity where needed. I'm sure Ridley would want to do it as an "R". Think about the reported "homosexual" angle where the space jockeys make people do stuff. Plus I seem to recall Ridley saying that this film will be very dark and controversial... something to that affect. Does anyone think he had the rating locked down before he agreed to do the film? Is that possible?
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July 11, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST
MORE FROM SIR RIDLEY RE: PROMETHEUS (NEW SHIT RIGHT HERE)...
by Astronut
It is possible to get this environment elsewhere, such as the Mojave desert in California, but this place is more primitive and wild I think. Nature here has a certain character and I like the black rocks. It was a better option. Being here is fantastic, really fantastic.What I have found in this country is a gorgeous beauty. This is exactly what I wanted from the beginning.
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We had a good relationship with Giger for many years. We showed him the script for [Prometheus] and he liked it. He's going to work a bit for me with this movie and has been working on a major project that comes in the film.
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Sounds a lot like the beginning of X-Files: Fight the Future. Hope Scott is more creative than that.
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paraphrasing but you can read it here, from last year: http://tinyurl.com/6f56ukn it sounds like the 'alien' could actually be the face-hugger precursor, rather than the big black phallic thing with 2 legs and tubes on its back. what were those tubes for anyway? i fancied they used them to produce that bio-gunk that seemed to line all the spooky corridors.
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July 11, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST
RUMORS ARE RUNNING WILD ABOUT H.R. GIGER'S INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS...
by Astronut
Just read this comment. And I don't know if it's true or if it means a hill of beans, but I hope it's not like this guy is saying: From what i've heard Giger was kinda let go. He did some stuff for the movie but the prod designer was no too happy about his name shadowing his (pretty common among production designer for years now, a lot did not liked that sometimes the name everybody remember about the look of the movie is the one of an illustrator or concept artist). Giger's designs were either reworked or some just re-designed from scratch. Don't like Neville Page either but i think he can make some nice stuff for the alien gods inside the space jockey suit. But the creatures and god's civilisation tech, homeworld have to be pure Giger...
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the other PG13 atrocities were directed by Anderson, Wiseman and McG. they will have been hired in part as they will have been fine with making the movie as a PG13 (with abit of CG blood/extra violence for the 'R' cut on dvd) im fairly confident Scott will have secured an R rating. whenever he's talked about the stuff we'll see in Promethues it certainly dosnt sound like PG13 to me i dont want anything TOO gory so much i need a sick bag (Alien 4) but i DO want an R rated sense of dread/foreboding/horror (as in the 79 Alien), several F bombs and a nice quota of (tasteful) gore
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I don't believe I have ever read that one before... that was good!
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All that fucker cares about is PROMETHEUS....... kinda like me. heh I could talk about this all day. I saw the pic you mentioned as well, darth. You might be on to something... I was thinking the stacked things looked a little more like eggs... like an egg bandoilier (sic).... bullet belt for a machine gun... that maybe the space jockeys fire them off to a planet like a machine gun... just trillions of them... maybe?
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It most certainly IS a prequel to Alien. Still not a believer? Follow the link and listen to Damon Lindelof talk about writing it and how it fits into the Alienverse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzRjHDAgRmk
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July 11, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST
Nobody get UPSET. ALIEN was a sex gag about a XENOMORPHS lifecycle. We all get that...
by Darth_Kong
Fight Club's moved out of the basement. I think Prometheus will be more along the lines of exploring how more of this BIOMECHANICAL technology works. At least I hope. We haven't even seen the surfaced scratched for what they can do in this movie. Look at the interview with Damon Lindelof. He says something along the lines of it's a fanboys dream come true. Prove it.
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...Because 2001 is the only sci-fi film to ever incorporate elements of the beginning of time into it, right? Why not compare it to Tree of Life while you're at it. Same thing too, isn't it? To be honest, 2001 really only gets into the dawn of man on Earth, whereas Prometheus sounds like it's going to the beginning of the Earth itself. Big diff. Again, it never fails to make me laugh how quickly you nerds can spout off comments like "This is going to be a well intentioned misfire" from a two sentence quote of Scott concerning scenes that will comprise a fraction of the film at some point. And then to follow that up with a bunch of woulda/coulda bullshit about the other Alien films that followed (let's not even count the AvP films on account of pure taste), none of that means anything. Guess what? Those films DID get made, and your beloved comics DIDN'T, so deal with it. Not to mention that it's Ridley Scott returning to the franchise after how many years -- I'm sure he probably sees something in this story worth telling, don't ya think? But you'll still be lining up on opening day to see it, mark my words. Just wait for the teaser this fall, you'll all be eating your words...
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July 11, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST
IMDB has full plot summary (warning, if true loaded with spoilers)
by empty_headed_animal
You know you want to read it, it's like the big red button with 'Don't push' on it. Irresistable.
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July 11, 2011, 4:41 p.m. CST
BTW are they going to shoot in Morocco or has that been scrapped?
by Darth_Kong
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July 11, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST
The beginning of time? Did he not see The Tree of Life? Malick
by Mr. Pricklepants
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July 11, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST
The beginning of time? Did he not see The Tree of Life? Malick already did it.
by Mr. Pricklepants
Of course, I'd love to see Ridley Scott's version of it. It's bound to be visually stunning.
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Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh-mazin!!! Can't wait for this one. The beginning of time by Ridley Scott? Interesting.
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July 11, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST
Nobody should care about this tying in with the Alien mythology because...
by Gary Busey's Upper Half
The AVP movies were awful, b-grade shlock that should have never been made and Aliens 3 & 4 were barely better. The only "real" Alien films in my opinion were by Scott and Cameron. And neither of those established much backstory with regard to the creature or the Space Jockey other than what they looked like/acted like. So who cares how tangential the connection to Prometheus is? I just hope it's a good movie in its own right, canon be damned.
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The plot summary is indeed quite nutty. Not quite sure how I feel about that though. That's a little...fetched? Gods vs their creations? Come on now. :-) If anyone can pull that off though...tis Mistah Scott. The cast is just phenomenal.
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i still can't believe that anyone can see this as one of the most anticipated "genre re-inventing" movies it needs only one Person to ultimately uberepic f*ck this up: Erich von Däniken It seems to be obvious, that nobody from this talkback knows anything about him - otherwise it can't be explained in any logical way, that there are still people, that can't await the release of this movie He is a Person everybody in europe only laugh's about He got sued multiple times in the last 50 Years for STEALING complete Storylines and he even copied Pages 1 by 1 from Sci-Fi and Fantasy Books.....selling them as his own for his "scientific Researches". (he needed to quickly release some books cause of open payments) He is a proven liar, impostor and got captured back in '68 by interpol because of his open payments and had to stay multiple years in jail... There is not one single Scientist worldwide or even like Scott claimed the NASA, that take him serious or agree in any of his fictional therories He was even selling magnetical healing b*llSh*t on german home shopping stations What the hell happened here with the aicn talkback? Just Google it!
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By the sounds of the second comment. I'm guessing we're going to see the space-jockey's uber terra-forming bio-tech play a hand in the creation of man?
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July 11, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST
I really hope they stick with the HORSE SHOE design for the Space Jockey ships...
by Darth_Kong
Just streamline some of the design and make it look more like the shape of a MAGNET perhaps. That might help sell the whole FIELD PROPULSION aspect of it or the space-time folding or pan-dimensional capabilities of the craft. Even the Original Derelict could use a little redesigning. Not much but a little to make it more I don't know "SPACE WORTHY". It will be cool if we se one of these DERELICTS in flight maybe like in ALIEN MAKERS 4. I mean the whole woman sticking her legs in the air with vagina airlock opening metaphor is cool with the Derelict but I want to see some more streamlined design that helps sell the whole idea of a more ADVANCED PHYSICS. Field Propulsion.
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I have 3 HIGHLY anitcipated filmn next year, and it's more than any other film ever. And it a 3-way dance between this, TDKR, and The Hobbit. I can't pick one over the other!
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...That I'm pretty sure it's the beginning of time on Earth -- as in, the seeding/creation of mankind on the planet by the space jockeys...or whatever they're gonna be called. Probably not the beginning of the universe and time, because I don't think that looked at all like Iceland. Let's read a little deeper into these articles, people...
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get your nooses ready, fanboys!
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took my wife at 39 so get some rest Merrick and worry about your health. This news can wait. Pneumonia is a killer.
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you think the ALIENS are the 'planet cleaning' organism that the betrayed Space Jockeys were bringing back to earth? nah... it would be pretty amazing if what the space jockey ship jettisoned toward earth as a final fuck you as they went down over LV-426 was a ship carrying the THING. it wouldn't fit in the timeline, but i'd say the THING is more threatening than ALIENS. oh, unless they sent it BACK in time to wipe out man before the event where man fucks up the space jockey's groove. hm.
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primates were already on earth. space jockeys wanted to upgrade them, so they made something that could 'breed' with them...in the same way the facehuggers impregnate man or other species and birth the xenomorph. whatever they created to attach to the female primates, caused the first humans to be born out of their wombs. something programmed to be fleshier, have less hair, smarter, more adaptable. it would have traits of an ape, but be something new. it may have taken several steps to get to the current level of homosapien, but it's pretty standard knowledge, some unknown event caused us to come from apes fairly quickly. in the same vein, the xenomorph is an improvement over whatever it's birthed from. it has the traits of what it came from, but is designed for killing and harvesting other life, and terraforming a planet (giger style) to be suited for the jockeys. ? just a thought.
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I'm fucking ready, already.
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They have map out the universe and can see the begining of time.... The can also see as far into the universe as we can see into our body...
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It would be cool if the Space Jockeys made man. It makes finding the one in the Derelict on LV-426 even more creepy. It would be like Batty meeting Tyrell in Blade Runner, meeting the GOD of BIOMECHANICS? Maybe that's the same theme? I would be fine with that.
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I realize most fanboys want a "hard R," but they're not going to be spending $200 million on this movie if it's not going to be PG-13. No way. Not only did it come up in pre-production (Fox balked at spending that sum if it wasn't PG-13), but look at all the other films in the series too -- Alien was a hit; Aliens was a hit but wasn't a blockbuster even by 1986 standards; Alien 3 underperformed; Alien 4 underperformed; AVP was a hit partially because it was PG-13; and AVP2 went back to an R and bombed. Before you condemn it, we don't even know what TYPE of film this is going to be. Could be another reason why Ridley is distancing himself from the other Alien films, because it may not be an excessively violent story.
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Can't wait to go back this universe.
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Any race of people that tame Xenomorphs and use them as ammo for bombing runs are the kind of badasses we love to see. If man truly screws over these dudes and steals their tech I'd feel proud to be human!
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The beginning of time and the universe. Pretty amazing sequence, actually. I love ALIEN (and ALIENS), but I think this will be somewhat less than amazing. There is no need for a prequel and the leaked synopsis (which I hope is a fake) sounds monumentally stupid.
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I don't need another gun battle with a character like Hudson dropping the F-Bomb over and over. I mean I love that scene in ALIENS but I can live with it in ALIENS. I'd rather see more of an emphasis on design and story than F-this and F-that. The blood and gore thing has been done really well in ALIEN as well. I want a PERFECT movie with Prometheus and it can be done at PG-13. R would be better but it's not gonna make or break me by there being one less F-bomb. I mean 2001 was G and I was fine with that too.
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July 11, 2011, 9:39 p.m. CST
I mean if Ron Jeremy isn't in this I'll live. It'll be hard to manage but I'll make it. Somehow.
by Darth_Kong
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July 11, 2011, 9:45 p.m. CST
The fans, and non-fans, should be more concerned with Ridley giving us a design-feast that makes The Fifth Element look like a USC student film.
by Darth_Kong
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July 11, 2011, 9:51 p.m. CST
I know it's exciting there is a brief bit of nudity in Mrs. Dalloway but last I heard there were no Space Jockeys in that movie.
by Darth_Kong
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July 11, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST
Does anyone even know what happens to Matter when it comes into contact with Anti-matter?
by Darth_Kong
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July 11, 2011, 9:54 p.m. CST
Fans should be SCREAMING for a science fiction film with an Anti-matter Grenade Launcher!
by Darth_Kong
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July 11, 2011, 9:55 p.m. CST
A L I E N...FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIIIIIIIIMMMMMMEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
by MrMysteryGuest
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sometimes I've been really excited for what Scott is planning and other times, i've just been scratching my head... i've read the synopsis, and it could be great, or it could be ass. not sure which it is yet...depends on what ridley scott shows up on set - the visionary behind Alien and Blade Runner or the Gladiator/Kingdom of Heaven director.
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July 11, 2011, 10:42 p.m. CST
What if there is more than one creature occupying the Space Jockey suit if it is indeed a suit?
by Darth_Kong
Does it have to be one?
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The Gladiator/Kingdom of Heaven director?? you mean the director who made a best picture winner and a highly underrated flick that was gutted by the studio?? that director?? those are two awesome flicks
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July 11, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST
Here's what's also been bugging me. DARK ENERGY and DARK MATTER...
by Darth_Kong
What if these "GODS" aren't based in physical matter? What if they are a form or hybrid of DARK ENERGY or DARK MATTER? As far as I know we haven't figured out what dark energy or dark matter is yet. If I'm WRONG someone interject. But with that being said, what if the "GODS" are of this form and the only way they can interface into our 3 dimensional universe, if you add time it's 4 dimensions right?, is by using a suit, which could in theory be a Space Jockey suit that may be ENGINEERED from human DNA mixed with this BIOMECHANICAL technology? These "GODS" or beings enter our universe or dimension or world by moving around in some type of physical matter that could be a Space Jockey suit? I think the whole Erich von Däniken thing may not be as HEAVILY involved as we may think but maybe some of his ideas are being lightly or vaguely used from a conceptual standpoint. When everyone heard this they panicked and production is happy with the muddying of the water as it hides all the story ideas whatever they may turn out to be. The idea of the "GODS" being physical matter is kinda old and boring. But if they were somehow from a dimension that was or is similar to DARK ENERGY or DARK MATTER that would be kinda cool. In our dimension or another. What I'm saying is the concept of these "GODS" or "ENGINEERS" becomes more interesting if they are not TRAPPED in physical matter like we are. Because WE ARE TRAPPED in physical matter. You don't think so? Trying going to another universe or dimension instantaneously. Still stuck here right? But this concept becomes cool if the only way for them to physically interface with our dimension or universe is to become into physical matter and that may be where the Space Jockey suit idea could be utilized. It could be cool. If they want to be here they would need a body or a vehicle like you or me right? If the Space Jockey ends up being a suit it would be cool if Ridley did something like this and to me beings that are more AKIN to dark energy or dark matter might, from a purely fictional story standpoint, need BIOMECHANICAL technology to build a suit so they could in EFFECT bb in our world. The concept of the suit makes sense for "GOD-LIKE BEINGS" wanting to physically be in our universe or dimension or world. Thats how they physically GET AROUND. It's like NEWTONIAN MECHANICS. The physical suit gets them from point A to Point B in a linear fashion if they want to EXIST in our dimension. I personally think the concept of "GODS" being physical matter creatures, if you will, old and worn out. Being a different type of matter than physical matter sounds more GOD-LIKE to me.
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July 11, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST
It's like the Space Jockey suit and Derelict on LV-426 didn't crash. The PAN-DIMENSIONAL "GOD-LIKE BEING" just abandoned the suit if you will...
by Darth_Kong
Yeah the chest exploded from the inside but it didn't REALLY look like the DERELICT crashed. It didn't look like a crash site. It almost look like it landed. Makes Kong wonder.
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July 11, 2011, 11:29 p.m. CST
Anyone remember the chair Lily was going to sit in in LEGEND and how it appeared to be ALIVE...
by Darth_Kong
I wonder if any of the interiors of the Biomechanical Space Jockey ships will be like that? Not hard cold surfaces but actual living Biomechanical surfaces that appear to move or look alive? Like a computer but a Biomechanical living breathing thinking ship?
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July 11, 2011, 11:37 p.m. CST
Think about it. "GODS and ENGINEERS" coming into PHYSICAL MATTER. That's why you need a biomechanical Space Jockey suit...
by Darth_Kong
Yeah, I'm probably WRONG but I ain't heard anyone else's ideas so sue me.
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July 11, 2011, 11:55 p.m. CST
Please, Alien(s) has been ruined, buried and all but forgotten
by corplhicks
face it ! it died after Aliens (Alien 2) Unless he takes a really new direction, and just doesn't have 2 hours of Alien chasing people it's dooomed. by the way, the crazy doctor in white in that shitty Winona Ryder Alien movie played Wormtongue in LOTR-TTT
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A few weeks ago Damon Lindelof who did the final rewrite of the Prometheus script was interviewed on Kevin Pollak's Chat Show. The interview in on kevinpollakschatshow.com and is just under 3 hrs long. He only talks about Prometheus for a few minutes but confirms that the movie takes place in the Alien universe. The interview is much more interesting because he goes into detail about how and why Lost came to be.
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lets have a PG13 Alien movie thats ok
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July 12, 2011, 8:42 a.m. CST
You can keep Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines. That shit was R and it would've been a better picture if it was G.
by Darth_Kong
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I agree with every single word you just posted, EVERY ONE. However I am * still * a little leery of Fox giving him $200+ mil and then letting him slap an "R" on it... As a good, current-day example, Warners gave Nolan $200+ mil to do Inception. But the film is rated "PG-13," my friend. Avatar, a shit fest, a tech demo.... hahahahaha!! That is such an accurate statement!!!!! Dude, more from you re: PROMETHEUS, please! Love reading your comments here...
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wrote: "some unknown event caused us to come from apes fairly quickly." i've always suspected this was due to the ingestion of psychadelic plants/fungi by the ancestors of our branch of the primate tree.
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re-watched aliens the other night, and alien only a while before that. the former is a nerf gun compared to the real thing. cool as a child but the original movie is the one.
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Solid coverage of Prometheus dev
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July 12, 2011, 9:59 a.m. CST
And it will set the record straight once and for all that Ridley Scott is better than James Cameron...
by Astronut
Personally, I don't understand how there can be a question of this, at least as far as the A L I E N series is concerned. As good a film as A L I E N S is, the original A L I E N is leaps and bounds a better film, and for the following reasons: • It contains real mystery and intrigue and a venture into the dark unknown • It gives us a very realistic, gritty environment... the crew's quarters, the alien world... • It has an utterly amazing, eerie soundtrack... perfectly suited to this mesmerizing odyssey... • The acting is miles above what we are given in the sequel • There is a bit of levity but the dialog is not overly "jokey" (ie; the constant one liners from Hudson, Bill Paxton's character) Now, I don't sit here and say that A L I E N is without its faults (a couple of bad effects shots and, for me at least, the misfire editing of the alien attacking Dallas with its arms stretched out, almost like "gimme a hug!") What I do say, and I have been saying it for YEARS is, the original film is like a legendary, classy, hypnotic, eloquent journey into the unknown. Whereas the sequel, despite some great, great sequences, is like a "slam bang" take on the franchise. Still love me some A L I E N S but it cannot, CANNOT hold a candle to Ridley's amazing original.
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i was abit shocked by that as Cott is normally a dedicated R man...then again a Robin Hood movie is abit of a family thing like Bond or Sherlock. they couldnt really make it R..plus the dvd DC was R was it not? The Alien-verse is full on R material...the fact they made AvP PG13 was laughable and influnced the ratings for DH4 and T4 aside the big name actors, FX, robots etc one of the main 'stars' of a Alien/Predator/Terminator/Die Hard film is the R rating... - i.e. knowing your gonna hear some F Bombs and see some no holds barred brutal violence thats gonna make you wanna cover your eyes at points...and some real horrific terror, deaths, tension, dread etc...take that away and your getting rid of a vital element that brought about the success of these franchises in the 1st place These movies are supposed to be scary. If they PG-13 it there will be no tension at all. When the alien/cyborg/terrorist is coming after someone you know they will either escape or it will cut away and nothing will be shown. -not to mention the dialogue will be unrealistic.
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• It is "EPIC"
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what the R rating does is automatically put the audience on edge from the start...because literally anything can happen...if it's PG-13 it relieves most of the tension because the audience knows there are limits to what they will see...this movie doesn't have to be a gore fest but it does need the R to create that feeling in people that they might see anything at any time
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If I had to bet though, I am thinking Fox will have this as a PG-13, maybe a "Special Edition Director's Cut" DVD rated R.......? I don't want this as anything less than "R" but I am simply being realistic.
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There is so much to ponder relating this movie.
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July 12, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST
Wait, cartmanez, I take that back — — — I meant to say "Agreed, raskolnikov_was_framed"
by Astronut
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July 12, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST
Actually I agree with both of you guys now that I look back at your posts...
by Astronut
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which might not be a huge problem if the story is epic and the content is adult...but if there are scenes where you can easily tell they were written to fit into a PG-13 rating that would suck...like people saying "friggin" and cutaways from violence or "sex" scenes with people nearly full clothed
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July 12, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST
THE 2ND POST (by mozzerino) IN THIS TB MUST BE REPEATED... BECAUSE IT IS SO TRUE...
by Astronut
This should be the Number 1 one every respectable Geek's list of most anticipated movies. Riddles returns to Sci-Fi, to reinvigorate the Alien-franchise, with Michael Fassbender and Noomi Rapace in the leads. It almost sounds too good to be true. When is this coming out again? Tomorrow, I hope...
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July 12, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST
What is Ridley doing today, you ask? Ohhh, nothin' much except "FILMING THE BEGINNING OF TIME!!!!!!"
by Astronut
GEE - Zuss!!!
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July 12, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST
I guess I will just keep posting here until a new Prometheus TB comes along...
by Astronut
It's okay to talk to yourself as long as you don't interrupt.
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I had better be in the damn movie. Charlize Theron can land on my Giger-shaped rocks any day.
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I bet her coochie tastes like cherries
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when that Prometheous synopsis was leaked about a week ago. After some time to mull over what this film might end as though, I am feeling a lot more excitement for Sir Ridley's epic Lovecraftian space jockey gods plus humans and Xenomorphs plot. Hopefully it will be a great sci-fi/horror masterpiece, and will spur Sir Ridley on to go on a serious sci-fi filmmaking binge. We need The Forever War. Then after that, maybe he will make his Brave New World film? Or how about Dune, which has stalled recently? Ridley is one of the few directors working these days that I could fathom being able to pull off a great Dune film.
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July 12, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST
Yes it's a fucking alien film you stupid fucks. Straight up! Fuck.
by UltraTron
Only says on the title. Alien. Fuckwits. If that's not good enough- the aliens bluray box has a quote from him saying he can't wait to take you back to the alien universe.
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and was on the cover of time magazine as the greatest movie of the summer.
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to figure out who I'm talking to
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July 12, 2011, 1:57 p.m. CST
Where does the word "Alien" appear on "the title," for Prometheus, exactly?
by Astronut
The hell..? Did I miss something?
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July 12, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST
Ever notice how many American Idol contestants had "ALIEN" names...
by Cletus Van Damme
Hicks, Hudson, Lambert...hmmmm.
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...and alien is MUCH better than the overrated and childish aliens...but scott is also an overrated hack who got incredibly lucky with alien and blade runner more becuz of capable writers and producers who could keep his dumb ass in check in spite of his tendency for mindless incohesive bullshit...ala lucas on the first two SW flicks. reading everything this asshole has to say...he can't even decide what the fuck it is.. it will simply be a confused pile of half-assed ideas & wasted concepts that mr plinkett will probably be tearing to sheds two years from now. fact
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Dude. That's not a fact. That's you being very dark and bitter. Come on, man. How can you be so cynical about this film when everything we know about it gives us genuine hope? Ridley. Giger involvement. New ideas. A new take on the Alien universe. Epic scope. Not just "another bug hunt" this time with "new faces." Ridley has been going on for YEARS how he has wanted to revisit that universe and tell new stories, offer new ideas. We're getting something NEW, MAN! Jesus. Pour yourself a drink. Relax. I'm telling you. It's going to kick ass.
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If you are any kind of fan of the original ALIEN... the concept, the execution... Ridley's attention to detail... the mysterious Giger vibe and the limitless possibilities of showing us more... you would NOT be saying "it will be shit." You compare him to Lucas? Wha-? Why, because he is a "big name director" who did some "big name sci-fi"... There is no comparison to draw. other than stating ALIEN is better than the sequel, saying that kind of stuff tells me you have zero credibility when it comes to predicting the success or failure of this film.
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keep your ridiculous fanboy expectations in check people. Scott is so hit or miss these days its ridiculous...he hasn't made a truly great movie since Blade Runner nearly 30 years ago!!!
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July 12, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST
darth kong: The fans, and non-fans, should be more concerned with Ridley giving us a design-feast that makes The Fifth Element look like a USC student film.
by Jonathan Hicks
But that's what Fifth Element was - a movie made by/for art and design students who know fuck-all about science fiction. I'm really hoping that Scott sidelines the alien stuff (but still includes it) and concentrates on the bigger picture. Also hoping that he nudges Aliens out of the picture - that's a great movie but a shit sequel.
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You speak wisdom and state facts, my friend. Please come here often to right the wrongs such as the ones perpetrated by the clueless clown haters above. The only "newer and hot" director in my opinion who has that magical, lightning in a bottle, Ridley/Kubrick level of top-shelf quality is Christopher Nolan. What I don't get is, again, why — why does someone shit on this film project when the ORIGINAL CREATIVE FORCE IS BACK TO DO WHAT HE HAS ALUDED TO AS "UP THE ANTE AND OUT-SPECTACLE JAMES CAMERON AND AVATAR." I am paraphrasing but that's pretty much what the man said at one point. What's to hate???!! If you're a hater of PROMETHEUS at this early stage, and.. knowing what we know about it.. then either A) You weren't a fan to begin with or B) there's just no hope for you, you dry, joyless fucks.
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July 12, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST
Oh. And by the way. Gladiator is fucking awesome film, haters. EAT IT.
by Astronut
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Which was why I said that it was made by people who know fuck all about sci-fi. It was just a huge poncey London Fashion Weekend design clusterfuck pockmarked with shitty 'mankind is shit' observations and a barely strung together story that read like shitty fan fiction. I'm more than educated on the brilliance of Scott, and the films he creates. I can honestly say that I'm in awe of the man, and even his lesser films are works of visual art and he has such control aover what he creates that it makes me pity the future of the motion picture industry when he finally bites the big cigar. And I mean that.
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u make some very good points. ill try 2 stay more hopeful about this film. u r wrong about gladiator tho ; )
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It's all good.
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July 12, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST
post Promethues...Ridley should do the Blade Runner prequel
by CARTMANEZ
look they gonna do it whatever so it may as well have Scott directing 2012 = Promethues (Alien Prequel) 2015 = Blade Runner prequel 3 year gap just like 1979-1982
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If Dune is to be re-adapted, I would like Alejandro Jodorowsky to be the one in the director's seat. He already has a Dan O'Bannon script and loads of HR Giger and Moebius artwork ready to go. It would be a shame if he died without getting a chance to show us his surreal, psychedelic vision.
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July 12, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST
Sci Fi yes. I don't even care if people call it Blade Runner with Color Crayons...
by Darth_Kong
And as much as I love ALIEN don't forget it may have one or two technical flaws. Flaws that are easily overlooked and forgivable but it ain't perfect. It's a MASTERPIECE that I love but its not technically perfect.
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I really don't think this will re-invigorate the "Alien Franchise"... I think, and hope, that it finishes it. I suspect this movie is going to be the answer to the questions of Scott's own movie, ignore the others, and go beyond what passes for sci-fi in movies these days to give us something really interesting with some depth and resonance. I'm pretty sure it will NOT give any openings for someone to come along and make another CGI humans vs aliens action/horror sequel.
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July 12, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST
I wonder if that one leaked GIGEResque set piece is from a ship...
by Darth_Kong
I would rather see the inside of Space Jockey ships than bases in caves. I hope we see ship interiors.
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July 12, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST
What's funny. Once a film or a movie makes it to home video release there doesn't seem to be the KNEE-JERK reaction to ratings as there is when its in the cinemas.
by Darth_Kong
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July 12, 2011, 9:12 p.m. CST
I agree that in the worst case scenario, if FOX puts a PG-13 in the cinemas, then put a HARD R Director's cut on Blu-Ray.
by Darth_Kong
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July 12, 2011, 9:12 p.m. CST
That way the executives will still makes boat-loads of cash and there's no problems.
by Darth_Kong
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July 12, 2011, 9:13 p.m. CST
They can still make the mortgage payments for their homes in Beverly Hills and Pacific Palisades.
by Darth_Kong
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July 12, 2011, 9:14 p.m. CST
They can still send their kids to the POSH private schools so they're not corrupted by the unwashed masses in the public school system and can retain their ELITE status.
by Darth_Kong
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July 12, 2011, 9:15 p.m. CST
The HARD R version on Blu-Ray can even have the Make-Out scene between Noomi and Theron. It's a win win!
by Darth_Kong
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July 12, 2011, 10:15 p.m. CST
Let's take a deeper look at this whole PG-13 thing. What about the ABYSS?
by Darth_Kong
Now don't get me wrong. I've never sat in on any MPAA meetings so I'm not wholly educated on how they make their decisions as to how and what gets a rating but if Prometheus is released with an R rating it won't change my hair style. I'm for it. But what I don't know is if there are any conditions that are or were place on Ridley when he embarked on making Prometheus. What I mean is where did the money come from to make Prometheus and did the financiers put any conditions on that money? I don't know. Now follow the logic train. There are times when I'm a little surprised that The Abyss received a PG-13 rating and the reason for this is the BARE BREASTS shots of Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio. Now before anyone gets their hearts all a flutter think about what I'm saying. PERCEPTION. PERCEPTION. PERCEPTION. Apparently you can give a picture a PG-13 rating with nudity if it involves saving a human life. I get that. But it's still nudity right? In the context of a LOVE SCENE with the same amount of nudity would the picture have received an R? Does this fall into the area of CONSENSUS TRANCE or CONSENSUS REALITY? To be fair, I think so. In the POLITICALLY CORRECT world we live in it doesn't matter weather or not something is a fact. If people perceive it to be true they will make it true. This happens all the time. Now we are back to PERCEPTION. If something is not perceived as erotic but life-saving apparently it can receive a lower rating, or PG-13 as opposed to R. Not that a love scene with nudity was or is critical to the story of The Abyss but you see the point? Story. I mean, would it have led to the credence of The Abyss or the authenticity if we had seen the divers nude while they were changing into their wet suits? Would that have been integral to the story? Is this APPLE and ORANGES? I don't have all the answers but it makes one wonder where the line is drawn for the rating system. And I'll tell you this. An R rating wouldn't have made AVP any better of a picture. It wouldn't have saved it. Sorry. The captain of that doomed ship couldn't have salvaged that train-wreck with added nudity or f-bombs. The point is, here it comes, if the story of Prometheus deserves an R rating I'm sure it will get one and that's great. If it deserves a PG-13 rating and was designed by the powers to be for that rating then I'm sure that will come to pass. Either way, PG-13 or R I want to see it. I mean, I'll take an R any day but it doesn't always mean that it will salvage the enjoyment of movie. You could have put all the tits and ass in AVP and dropped F-Bombs every thirty seconds and it wouldn't have made me enjoy it any more. It was destined for failure from the beginning. Unless anyone comes on this website and LEAKS the script or link to the shooting script we don't have any reference for what rating it should get because we don't know the full context of the story much less how the visuals look.
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July 12, 2011, 10:39 p.m. CST
The Alien franchise has a horror element to it
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
Horror = rated R not some castrated PG-13 wanna-be horror flick so that the studios can sell tickets to teenagers It's censorship in order to protect their investment.
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July 12, 2011, 10:48 p.m. CST
winona_ryders_pussy_juice - It better end up being a STRAIGHT UP horror flick then...
by Darth_Kong
Does Winona still have a problem popping too many sleeping pills?
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has Ridley ever made a bad movie?? even at his worst...like a bad movie being Star Wars prequels, Indy 4, any Bay movie etc...have any of Ridley's movies even come close to those kind of disasters?? even Spielberg has 1941...and I'd put any of Ridley's films over that nonsense even Ridley at his "worst"...arguably Body of Lies Matchstick Men G.I. Jane A Good Year 1492 Robin Hood those movies might be disappointing but they are not out in out failures...and I will argue that all of those are extremely underrated, especially Body of Lies and A Good Year
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July 13, 2011, 6:25 a.m. CST
darthkong - PG-13 as an R rated DC dvd is not the same as a real R movie.
by CARTMANEZ
R rated movies are movies that were R from the start (Alien, Blade runner, The Terminator, Die Hard, Predator etc) stuff like Die Soft 4 and AvP are PG-13 movies from the start ,the script is PG-13,the action is PG-13, the horror and sense of dread is PG-13 The characters are PG-13, the gore is PG-13(wasnt there a description in the AvP script of a 'gush of PG13 blood'?) then the studio just put some digital blood on the PG-13 cut to make it look R and release it as the R cut. PG-13 released as a R cut on dvd is not the same as a real R movie.
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dark kong sleeps...
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July 13, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST
cartmanez - I get the feeling Prometheus is going to be more like 2001 as opposed to Friday the 13th or a Freddy Movie.
by Darth_Kong
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Didn't they have to cut out Mr Kinney or Kenny lying on that Delta City model being all shot up by ED-209 for the theatrical release to avoid an X rating or something? I can't remember. See what I'm saying? Those extra gory shots were put in the LASERDISC release for Criterion's Robocop. It happened with Robocop. Can it happen with Prometheus? Yeah. Sure. I just don't think the story of Prometheus isn't going to be the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Ridley did that with ALIEN. I think this may be more like 2001 as opposed to Leatherface stuff.
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July 13, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST
I bet that Ridley will shoot for an R but let's hope the MPAA and the studio doesn't whittle it down to a PG-13...
by Darth_Kong
But you realize that is a possibility in a world of infinite possibilities?
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