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Miss Moneypenny, Javier Bardem, And Ralph Fiennes Will Be In BOND 23!
Nordling here.
It's been rumored for some time that Javier Bardem would be in the next Bond film, possibly as the villain, and that Ralph Fiennes would also be involved in some manner. And although this isn't exactly confirmation, The Daily Mail reports today that both have been cast, as well as a return of a certain Bond character - Miss Moneypenny, to be played by Naomie Harris (Calypso in PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN: DEAD MAN'S CHEST and AT WORLD'S END), pictured below:
No word on who Bardem and Fiennes would be playing, but if they're both villains (and it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that considering their careers) Daniel Craig would have his hands full. As for Moneypenny, Bond and her have always had chemistry together, and I'm certain Harris would bring that sexiness of the character on screen. Sam Mendes is directing the next film, which so far doesn't have a title. I'm actually glad we've had this break between Bond films - it's allowed Craig to establish himself outside the franchise and since I thought the last one wasn't nearly as good as CASINO ROYALE perhaps Mendes would bring a more classic approach to the material. At least the camera might hold still in this one.
Nordling, out.
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July 8, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST
I liked her as the crazy voodoo lady in Pirates of the Caribbean.
by frank
Witches with Jamaican accents are hot.
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I feel like that's vaguely racist. No?
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They had that all set up and then just forgot about him. I would also like to see him return as Nearly Headless Nick in the final Harry Potter, but I don’t guess that is happening.
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are the best kind of black chick
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I totally agree. I realize people go by what they see on TV as fact. But sorry but the majority of black people are not ignorant as some would like to think. If i went be what ive seen on tv, most white people would be racist and live in trailer parks. but thats not the case at all.
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July 8, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST
It's a Sam Mendes film, so the villain will be middleclass repression
by Spandau Belly
Look forward to Bond having a mid-life crisis at Ikea and Josh Groban doing the themesong.
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"Miss Moneypenny, Javier Bardem" thinking he was playing Moneypenny. After all, if M can be a Dame, why can't Moneypenny be a dude?
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I think that's more hip and modern, amirite?
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July 8, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST
I dunno - black chicks from the caribbean are mighty fine..
by Righteous Brother
and the USA - in fact, from anywhere.
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She looked totally fit in her bra at the end. Even with all those Ragers runnin around, I'd still find time..
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"I expect you to die Mr. Bond....ya stupid cunt." Actually if Craig decides to hang up Bond in the next 10 - 15 years or so, I could see the older Alexander Skarsgård from True Blood as a younger reboot.
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Fuck! I hope that Amon Goeth's grandson hires Anton Chigurh to kill Bond.
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she was rather delicious as Calypso!
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Like that Kerry Washington in interviews.
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July 8, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST
I know they will, I knew on tuesday thanks to comingsoon.net, get with the programme whoever runs this uber sloooow site.
by Arkhaminmate001
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Her voice is about as sexy as a mules while being attacked by wolves. Her acting is worse
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Moneypenny's role is to show that Bond does actually have some heart. I have a hard time seeing that working with Craig's Bond, especially since they (presumably) won't have an established relationship. I suppose this could work if there's a major subplot to act as an origin story for their relationship.
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Even if she tried REALLY hard not to, she couldn't help but bring the sexy. I hope this is true!
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although i wouldnt mind me some sweet british black chick either.
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Felix Leiter wasn't a black man in the books, in fact he says some pretty bigoted things about black people in Live and Let Die, but Jeffrey Wright has done a great job with the character. What about Moneypenny demands that she's white other than you being uncomfortable with interracial sexual tension or having an unnecessary fear of a source material, that I'm sure most of you have never read, being 'tarnished' in some way?
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they'd have been protesting every movie since You Only Live Twice.
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Since they have a chick M.
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July 8, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST
I don't think it's racist to expect my MoneyPenny to be white
by THE_CHOPPAH
I mean, what is the point of making her black, except to stir things up? I was pissed when they kept Lame Judy Dench as M in the reboot. Not really a reboot if you have the same freaking character carried over from the last series, is it?
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July 8, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST
Actually spandau belly, Mendes sworn enemy is always...
by Mel Gibsteinberg
The institution of marriage. He's not opposed to the "artist's" interpretation of marriage where you are allowed all the hookers and blow you can manage, just so long as you keep that stiff British upper lip and don't talk loudly.
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'Penny should be mousy and bookish and bespectacled, not a knockout. Harris would be a great Bond Girl, but we need a Moneypenny that 007 can have a good flirt with, but not one so distractingly gorgeous that he'd never have any incentive to leave M's office. A mid-90's Sandra Bullock type would be great. A shame that Mendes and Kate Winslet are no longer a couple...check out Winslet as she appeared in the 2002 film Enigma. THAT'S Moneypenny...attractive, but in a fetchingly "plain" way. Of the three previous Moneypennys, Caroline Bliss (from the Dalton era) was probably the prettiest.
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July 8, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST
NAH, urban would be something more like "MunneyCent"
by Yotz Von Frelnik
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Quantum of Solace is good compared to that
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So, her first name is Penny. this wouldn't bother me so much. At least it would be an acknowledgment that this wasn't Moneypenny.
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Maybe they'll nerd her up a little, I could see her with her hair pulled back, glasses ... maybe some thigh high stockings ... sexy heels ... see through white shirt ... OK, that derailed, sorry :D Bardem and Fiennes? Sounds awesome. I totally dig on Craig as Bond, the first movie was outstanding, the second, I saw in a bad environment (guests and too much drinking) so I don't recall it, but the little I do I remember as mediocre.
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July 8, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST
I don't see how it's racist to have Moneypenny be black
by Nasty In The Pasty
What, they think audiences won't want to see 007 flirting with a black chick? He humped the SHIT out of Halle Berry (albiet in the WORST BOND MOVIE EVER), and no one batted an eye. The race of the character is immaterial. As someone above said, we have a black Felix Leiter (and a female M), and and no one complained about that.
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The only source on this is The Daily Mail, one of many British tabloids that loves to make up James Bond casting rumors. But hey, if you like fake Bond rumors, I've got a few more... Katy Perry and Lady GaGa are CONFIRMED to sing the theme song together! Sean Connery will have a cameo as James Bond's long-lost father! The plot will hinge on James Bond's unexpected financial windfall when he discovers that Bill Gates will pay him millions of dollars for forwarding an email to other Windows users!
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Sean Connery must be rolling in his grave...
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and not another quantum of solace
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Moneypenny is the anti-Bond Girl. Where Bond Girls are sultry, dangerous vixens, I've always thought of Moneypenny as the (still sexy, but) mousey, uptight, girlish secretary, daydreaming about getting James into a big church wedding.
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I just think she's a pretty poor actress on the whole.
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... fat, useless, civil servant! ;-) http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/comedy/images/thickofit_terri.jpg
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Bond never goes farther than flirting with her, not because she's not hot enough, but because she represents the public that gets to remain innocent because Bond is out there doing the dirty work. They can make her any ethnicity they like, so long as they don't make her an ass-kicker, seductress, or any other type of Bond girl or conquest. She has to stay innocent because that's the whole point of the double-O sacrifice.
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But still have a crush on James Bond.
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Moneypenny should be a dude. Because why not?
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July 8, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST
God, you idiots. Making fun of all races other than black = ok. One little joke about blacks = idiots crying racism.
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
Ya know, black comedians have no problem making fun of other races, especially asian. But once someone makes a joke about a black person, the hypocrites all start collectively sobbing. I have no problem with Harris as Moneypenny, but it is a prime example of casting to create a stur and to be different for the sake of being different. They did NOT audition a bunch of actresses and happen to pick Harris. No, they decided from the beginning that they wanted a black Moneypenny.
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July 8, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST
Well, hears hoping she has nice extensions, and some apple bottom jeans...
by Nick
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July 8, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST
How about an asian Moneypenny? black race is not the only non-white
by KilliK
race in the world you know. IMHO an asian chick does the best sophisticated/librarian,sexy but shy look.welll at least that's the impression i got from a lot of films with asian women wearing glasses.
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July 8, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST
I think Moneypenny won't be like what people are expecting...
by Andrew Coleman
Doubt she'll only be chatting with Bond early on. I'm sure she'll be more of an agent that works at MI6. Also if Bardem is the villain who Fiennes be playing? Doesn't even matter... I'm just glad Bond is back.
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Either Javier Bardem or Ralph Fiennes will be playing 00 agent, or, at the very least, a covert ally. If one of them is a covert ally, its probably Bardem, not unlike Topol's casting as Colombo in For Your Eyes Only. Everyone is going to expect Bardem to be the bad guy, so they're going to cast against the expectations.
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Racism is funny.
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Russell Brand as Bond Tracy Ullman as M Lil Kim as Ms. Moneypenny Mos Def as Felix Leiter Sasha Cohen as Bloefeld
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I have had a crush on Naomi Harris since i saw her in A COCK AND BULL STORY.
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It does raise the question, when Craig leaves the role after a few more films, will the next Bond be black?
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Since he was considered for Bond for Goldeneye.
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that will never happen.at least for the next 50years.FACT.
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Whoever takes the job becomes moneypenny.
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23 is shaping up nicely. Since the producers are intent on a female "M", let's all agree that it is high time to retire Judi Dencsh. Helen Mirren please and thank you. Just think about the subtle possibilities.
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That's why they kept her in the reboot. Black Moneypennny seems like a similarly bold choice.
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July 8, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST
The fact that moneypenny is now black realy pisses me off
by RedBull_Werewolf
I'm not racist but seriously just leave the characters as is, whats next a chinese Q or a A homosexual M Political corectness can suck my dick. Lois maxwell must be spinning in her grave knowing they turned moneypenny into PC gimmick
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That's just the thing, what about the character says she can't be black, or Q can't be asian or M can't be gay (though why would we need to know one way or the other about M?)? What does it matter? It's not like being white is in any way inherently important to the character.
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Should that grammatical error be considered a deliberate racist/sexist attempt to put the black female in an objective position instead of subjective equal to the white male? <p> No? <p> So I won't be getting a government grant out of this.
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July 8, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST
Bond will pat her on the ass and Al Sharpton will Kool-Aid man through the door to save her!
by Mandolorian
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July 8, 2011, 4 p.m. CST
Actually, people should be offended that Moneypenny is black, but not for the reason you think
by THE_CHOPPAH
I mean, whyz a sistah gotta be a secretary? African Anglicans are losing ground in this reboot. Halle Berry was a badass spy every much Bond's equal. Her love 'em and leave 'em attitude even trumped his. This isn't progress.
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But agree her best was still 28 Days Later. The comic book sequel to that featured her character but was bleh. She was also in The Tomorrow People way back when, which most of us watched on Nickelodeon I think...
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July 8, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST
the black already claimed Felix leiter, leave the rest of the characters as is
by RedBull_Werewolf
This is worse then when the women claimed M. Moneypenny is and always should be white, her and bond are supposed to have chemistry, how are a white man and a black woman supposed to have chemistry or sexual tension?
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oh, I get it.
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is amazing and is the antithesis of anything any of the fat, stupid, sputtering british europoor fucks on this board would ever like. Also, Harris is one of the 10 hottest women in the wor
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Because if you're being sincere, sweet jesus....
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I think it's the europeans who are down with the casting of Naomi Harris. I'm european myself and i'm quite pleased with the choie. So there. If anything, i suspect the americans might be mroe consevative about her casting. Contrary to what americans believe about Europe, this is quite a cultural mesh up in here, from people all around the world. Fuck, it was even we who invented cosmopolitanism.
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I'm sure she will acquit herself well in the role of Miss Moneypenny, Harris would be far better cast as one of the Bond "femme-fatale " girls. I could totally see Harris in the similar types of roles as Sophie Marceau, Jane Seymour, Izabella Scorupco, Famke Janssen, Carey Lowell, Maud Adams, and Barbara Bach. I'm fine with Harris as Moneypenny, but her acting talent and screen presence is wasted on the role.
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July 8, 2011, 4:25 p.m. CST
I predict she will be 'more involved' than the character typically has been.
by THEE Miracleman
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i vote for that.
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fuck off
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Bardem, Fiennes and Harris are all outstanding actors. And it's not "PC" to change things up - it's about updating our classic stories to more accurately reflect the times we now live in. A old white male M, a young white female secretary, etc. - these once were the only options you'd see in a 1960's Cold War fictional MI6 office. Not anymore. Get used to it.
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Imagine all the sweet shit he could hide in a turban!
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But I think Goldeneye was a really high point to start from. I love Goldeneye.
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i know they say there may never be a new Q, but what amazing against-type casting that would be.
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I'm psychic.
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You merely clicked enter before I.
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HAHAHAHA. As a Muslim, I find that both hilarious and almost DEFINITELY not happening.
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July 8, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST
Christ, I hope all you complaining about Harris' race are trolling
by soma_with_the_paintbox
No one is "fishing" in order to turn these films into Benetton ads. They're just trying to reflect modern life, there's no agenda there. Tilting at windmills, tinfoil hats, etc, etc.The only REAL problem I can foresee is that she's too hot for Moneypenny. Although she fugged up suitably well for POTC, but that's a far cry from plain and mousy.
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July 8, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST
GOD DAMNED AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Illuminate
@billyeveryteen You racist douche bag. Go home to your trailer and fuck your cousin. lol Connery loved the black women and his Bond slept with one. She looks damned hotter than 95% of the white chicks out there. @redbull_werewolf Yes you are a racist. The part should go to the hottest and race should not be a factor. She is hands down hotter than a lot of the actresses out there no matter what race there is. Now go and fuck your cousin to. :) Yee haaaa. lol All you homosexuals who say she should be a man need to just come out of the closet. There is nothing wrong with being gay anymore and they are legalizing gay marriage in some states. I bet she fucks like a rabbit in bed. This was unexpected, but a very awesome choice for Money Penny. Let's just hope she is not playing a bitch who mocks Bond. The previous Money Penny was like that in Golden Eye but the actress who played her loosened her up throughout that series. I've liked all the Money Penny's and ALL the great actresses that have played her. If she plays the character with sexy teasing than it will be awesome. Money Penny was starting to get a bit TYPICAL boring. This new actress has played very expressive characters so she just might bring new energy to it all if they don't ground her to much. It would have been great to see Felix in action as a sort of Bond side kick. I first noticed that great actor on Young Indiana Jones TV series. It seems like they are just upping the actors with talent and quality in this Craig series ever since they started with casting the best serious actor who has ever played Bond: Craig.
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July 8, 2011, 5:53 p.m. CST
Moneypenny? Great. How about Q and a couple of gadgets, too?
by matineer
Had to ask.
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She looks to have just enough sex appeal to make her interesting. My own personal choice though would have been GEMMA ARTERTON - how stupid were they to kill off the best thing in QOS?
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July 8, 2011, 6:02 p.m. CST
dr sauch, actually the new Bond movies...
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Gravy
are far more 'European' in their approach than some of the previous ones, especailly the Brosnan movies, which were just big, dumb takeoffs of the typical American action movies of the late 90's. This can even be seen in their baroque, classy titles like 'Casino Royale' and 'Quantum of Solace', rather than the Brosnan movies which were all 'kill this' and 'die that'. The Craig movies even have sophisticated Euro hotties as Bond girls, like Eva Green and Gemma Arterton, instead of bimbos like Denise Richards and Halle Berry.
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July 8, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST
BIKINI PIC LINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Illuminate
All you racist hillbillies out there know you want to slide your dicks into this http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/14267/Naomie%20Harris.jpg I bet you just want to diss fucking your cousin and that you are now pulling out your hillbilly dicks and shooting your jizz all over the monitor for this fine ass woman. :) She'll make for the hottest Money Penny ever and I can't wait to see her on the big screen.
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The problem with her is that she's too hot for the role of Moneypenny. That character was always the antidote to all the "Bond Women" - a very proper English woman, with an ongoing flirty banter with Bond, but you know he would never sleep with her. They got it wrong during the Dalton Bond years as well - They put glasses and a ponytail on an obviously hot woman, and tried to pass her off as bookish and mousy. About as effective as trying to pass Denise Richards off as a nuclear scientist. As for the issue of race: Jeezus people. Step into the 1980s. I can't believe that is a topic of discussion. Make Moneypenny black. Hell, make Bond black. I'd love to see the guy who played Lister on Red Dwarf play him. Might not fit into the recent feel of the reboots, but I think it would be awesome.
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July 8, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST
Bernie Casey was the first black Felix Leiter, not Jeffrey Wright...
by SubliminalJones
Give credit where credit is due. And as long as Moneypenny isn't being played by some skank with a New Jersey accent, we should all be thankful.
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July 8, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST
Nothing wrong with a black Moneypenny...
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Gravy
A black Bond would be a different matter, and not for racist reasons either, but it's fine to change the races of the supporting characters. In fact, changing Felix Leiter to a black guy was a good decision, since his laid back cool was an excellent contrast to Craig's intensity.
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July 8, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST
Loved Gemma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Illuminate
@rebeck2 You are right GEMMA ARTERTON should have gotten more screen time. That other chick in QOS bored the shit out of me. Gemma is not my type, but one look at her sexy eyes and I would be fucking her missionary style. Normally I go for doggy but I would want to be blowing my sweet juice inside her while looking into her eyes with her legs on my shoulders. :) Damn all these hot chicks are reminding me that I need to fuck some good pussyyyyyyy tonight. Need to get off the computa and make a few phone calls.
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Make him Japanese, and then we can have all the stereotypes of Japanese guys being obsessed with technical gadgets.
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July 8, 2011, 6:17 p.m. CST
Bernie Casey never appeard in an official James Bond movie
by RedBull_Werewolf
Don't even try to throw Bond trivia at me you dick. NsNa is not a bond movie, it's a remake of thunderball made out of spite. Jeffrey Wright is the first Black felix leiter and nothing against the actor but the character should have stayed white..oh and he shoudn't be portrayed as a dick... not really sure why wright has chosen this trait for leiter
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July 8, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST
MAKER HER SEXY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Illuminate
Money Penny needs to be proper with a strong hint of "you know she's going to fuck the hell out of you in bed." The sexiness has to be there since she's not on screen for long. Signing off
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July 8, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST
@redbull_werewolf Unofficial in papers only,but it was a James Bond movie alright
by KilliK
so no you are wrong, Felix Leiter was firstly black in NSN. FACT.
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1) Never Say Never isn't a Bond movie. Period. 2) There's nothing wrong with Felix Leiter being black (or whatever they want him to be) As for Leiter being a dick, I don't actually think that's what they're going for in the new ones. He's showing off as a man of strong will, trying to do the right thing in an organization that is corrupt. He tries to intimidate Bond with an attitude of American superiority, but can't do it. This is Bond, after all, who is never intimidated - and the British invented acting superior (might have been the Germans. Anyway, the English perfected it). In the movies, Leiter has been inconsistent, portrayed every which way: Old and fat (Goldfinger), slick cop (Live and Let Die), young and oddly gay looking (Living Daylights), action hero (Licence to Kill), pretty much useless (about 90% of the rest of the movies). Why not cranky with heavily pigmented skin?
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July 8, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST
So if NSNA was a james bond movie that makes the first 2 casino royales and james bond jr legit too?
by RedBull_Werewolf
you sir are a fucktard, The only thing that counts in Bonds film world in the official EOn films. Never say never again was if anything a bond parody. In fact if it had stared anyone other then connery it wouldn't even be remembered today and virgin fanboys wouldn't include it in cannon
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July 8, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST
NSNA's biggest crime is not that it's unofficial...
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Gravy
but that it's just plain shit. Horrible movie.
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Expect the guy who played Hiro on Heroes to play him.
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Forget Moneypenny, shouldn't we be talking about the different ways this movie is going to blow?
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Bond films never work when the villan is played by a well known actor, especially since fienes is just about to wrap up playing one of the biggest movie villans of the past decade. As for javier bardem, Lets hope he's a ally in the mexican secret servce or something
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He deserves a better send off than that fucking Madonna movie.
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The Bond franchise has flip flopped on characters before,so this isn't the first time. Felix started out white then he was black went back to white now he's black again. So Moneypenny comes as no surprise. And really who cares as long as they dont change up again. If your going to have her be black dont change it two or three films later.
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Caring about the race of Bond's flirty coworker? That's ridiculous even by 1960s standards. Charlton Heston in The Omega Man 40 years ago is most socially advanced than some of you morons.
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He had sex with one in LIVE AND LET DIE. Did he have sex with Grace Jones in A VIEW TO A KILL? I can't remember.
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Idris Elba is more like the ideal James Bond than any pasty white geek complaining in this talkback.
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Complaining about this is like saying Lt. Uhura shouldn't have been black.
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Titles like that may be more American, but they follow a trend from John Gardener's novels. "Nobody Lives Forever", "Win, Lose, or Die", "Death Is Forever". These follow Fleming's "Live and Let Die", "You Only Live Twice", "From a View to a Kill". And really, only two of Brosnan's four titles were like that, so that's kind of overstating the issue. That said, I've often thought "You Never Die Enough" would be a good Bond title.
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July 8, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST
Peter Serafinowicz is bound to be a Bond villian one of these days.
by Yelsaeb
All we have to do is wait.
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is a virgin, I guarantee! and who cares if Moneypenny is black? Naomi judd is fine as Moneypennny, and a welcome addition my boy! racist white people, my nigga. Never gonna get over our taking of politic, sport, and music. hollywood is next, so brace your self for a black bond, ya honkies!! James Bond, we comin for YOU, Nigga!
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July 8, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST
Moneypenny should be a lesbian, waiting for the day when Bond gets a sex change.
by highfunctioningsociopath
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@darth_ghidorah85 tell me something, how many times have you had to pay for pussy or having to settle for some second rate ugly chick with crabs? hahahhahah You've always been a LOSERRRRR :) racist and you will grow into old age being a loser racist. Some people deserve to have a shitty life/to be a loser and you are one of them. lol
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He's not a bad actor but I've never gotten what's so great about him. He has the same personality in every movie and he's got this gigantic head and goofy face. It might work if he plays the villain in this movie.
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Thats three pretty intense lead actors. All of a sudden I find myself anticipating great things. I hope I am not disappointed. I was a big fan of Casino Royal like most of you and was similarly meh on Quantum of Solace. Heres to the franchise getting back on track.
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you a salt-lettin' cracka ain't you? my bo thinks he the shit cause he can talk some mess online on the comp. probably fat and outta shape. let me guess? not only can ya get the ladies, but i bet youre also a caged fighter? think ya can tango with me, "bro"? ya fatsass probably works at wal-mart, down in the louisiana bay9ou hunting gator while fucking your sister who happens to also be your mom. dumbass inbred white boy...go fuck youself.
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July 9, 2011, 1:56 a.m. CST
Now, Mr. Bond, I will torture you...with my wand!!! NYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by MrMysteryGuest
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Wowwwwwww, you are so fucking off on everything about me that I was laughing my ass on reading your message. lol Talk about clueless. Avoid rainstorms my friend, you would not be able to find your own dick to take a piss. :) lol Excuse meeeeee, I'm still laughing while typing this shit. I'm going to save your message just for every time I need a fucking laugh. lol
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July 9, 2011, 3:16 a.m. CST
They need to make it feel like a JAMES BOND movie. The last one was anything but.
by HarryBlackPotter
Quantum of Solace was not good, everyone knows that. It wasn't exactly terrible, but it just wasn't a BOND movie, it was a BOURNE movie with Daniel Craig in it. I want gadgets, I want Miss Moneypenny, I want Q, I want Bond shagging anything with a pulse, I want exotic locations, I want supervillans and sharks with frickin' lasers...and I want Bond to be 'quippier' to coin a phrase. Connery did it, Moore did it, Dalton crashed and burned with the quips though and Brosnan was pretty good at it. Bascially, we need to see a James Bond movie. That's all I ask.
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July 9, 2011, 3:36 a.m. CST
And the suckage of the worst version of Bond continues
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Adding Calypsso as MoneyPenny adds absolutely NOTHING to make Daniel Craig's humorless, snarly, thug version of Bond any more appealing. :P
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In case you don't know, Bond as a user of gadgets is a deliberate invention for the movies. It's not inthe books, in which he has to resort to his wits and skills. And i'm happy that the new Bond movies have kept the gadgets to the bare miminum, to the point all of them are pratically of the shelft stuff. I'm loving this new approach to Bond, which, ironically, is much closer to his origins.
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July 9, 2011, 3:49 a.m. CST
theghostwholurks, so you prfered the clownish bullshit from the Roger Moore's years?
by AsimovLives
There's always one!
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I want Casino Royal 2.
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but the Cowboys and Aliens trailer doesn't look very good. I sure wouldn't place the blame on him. I myself love the new Bond. Yeah, they ripped off Bourn but so what, they did it very successfully with Casino Royal. Quantum was pretty mediocre but I prefer it to a lot of the older, cheesy Bond films.
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After the steaming pile of shit that went by the name 'Quantum of solace' let's hope The next movie is a return to form (and learn how to hold a camera and edit an action scene you retards)
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They should have made Moneypenny a man to balance out M being a woman. :) Ok, just kidding. It'll be interesting to see what they do with this.
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If Eon are thinking along the lines of lets make Bond 23 more politically correct they will lose even more audience. Its not like QOS was a great movie either I think Casino Royale will be the only decent Craig movie then after Bond 23 the reboot with a new actor its not like Craig is in demand outside of Bond his acting range is pretty limited. She is at best a TV level actress & hardly a looker so most likely for the limited budget or just to be different this is what Eon/Sony think will do in the part....... Just bring back Samantha Bond & John Cleese already!!!!! Judi Dench is still around why not those 2 as well???
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Negroes are funny. AICN talkbacks on Bond are funnier. These truths are indisputable.
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Exhibit A.
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I call 'nonce!' Who's with me?
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Knew it!
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If bardem is in this, that means he's going to be shooting that, and means Ron Howard can't continue his fucking-up of the DT series. At least for the near future.
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July 9, 2011, 8:40 a.m. CST
The black woman is not the issue here, Dude! It's the Daily Mail reported this. UK press is notoriously dishonest in its reporting.
by Karl Hungus
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July 9, 2011, 8:46 a.m. CST
RACIST LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Illuminate
All you guys saying that they cast a black woman in the part to be politically correct are either: A. Racist B. A complete moron. C. All the above. The racist part is obvious. So, let me explain how fucking stupid you are about the "political correctness" bullshit. FELIX LIGHTER (JAMES BOND'S SIDE KICK) IS BLACK THEY DON'T NEED TO CAST ANOTHER BLACK ACTOR TO PLEASE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS YOU FUCKING IDIOTSSSSSS! I'M SURE THAT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE BEEN CALLED A MORON KNOW IS IT? LOL Damn there are some dumb illogical mother fuckers on this site. They cast her in the part because they wanted a more expressive actor and she is definitely a character actor, Pirates proved that.
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Oh, and I'm sure that 95% of the men in the country would diss your fat racist mothers and ugly sisters and if you are lucky your butt ugly girlfriends to go on a date with the new Money Penny. So, tonight before you go to sleep crying that you will never have a woman as fine as her than remember reading this. lmao
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@racists oh, and just because a black guy went ass to mouth on your Mommy before you were born doesn't mean you need to be racists. Your mommy smiled while she sucked all of her shit juices of his dick. :)
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Hey Everyone, The King of England just commented on this site! lol Can everyone say dork. lmao BTW, you have no fucking clue what race I am because you are dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb, dude, you are soooooo dumb. lol
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Funny, and an oxymoron, all at the same time. Fascinating.
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His name is Jaws. He kills people.
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Seriously does anyone really give a shit that Moneypenny will be black? It's the ultimate expression of cynicism to suggest that the casting of Naomie Harris is down to political correctness! Could it not be that she was simply the best actress for the job? Or are those complaining implying that black people can't act? Regardless, bring on Bond 23! Daniel Craig and team have totally re-energised the franchise.
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That's your new name 'werewolf'. I'm sorry, get used to it. You are Redbull Retard from now on. I mean for Christs sake, Monepenny is on screen for a couple of minutes, tops, in EVERY fucking Bond film so far. She says little and does less. She has no fucking character. So to say that they are 'changing' the character by making her black makes zero sense. In fact Moneypenny, M, Q, Leiter; every single character outside of Bond could change race, gender, become a wheelchair user - and I wouldn't give a shit. Really! How many characters are as important as Bond in a Bond film? NONE! Except the villain, and that role changes from film to film. But you can go cry in a corner if the skin colour of a secretary matters to you that much, Redbull Retard.
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From Ian Fleming, Goldfinger, the chapter; "Thoughts in a DB III": "But the DBIII had the advantage of an up to date triptyque, an inconspicuous color - battleship gray - and certain extras which might or might not come in handy. These included switches to alter the type and colour of Bond's front and rear lights if he was following or being followed at night, reinforced steel bumpers, fore and aft, in case he needed to ram, a long-barreled Colt .45 in a trick compartment under the driver's seat, a radio pick up tuned to receive an apparatus called the Homer, and plenty of concealed space that would fox most Customs men." And of course Odd Job's hat. The Dragon Tank from Dr. No, of course, is also in the books. I'm sure there are many others.
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July 9, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST
Moneypenny is some sacred cow character whose race can't be switched? WTF??
by Orbots Commander
Besides, she's only been cast as white in the Bond movies. In the books, her race wasn't even mentioned, I don't believe, so there's a wide latitude. I wouldn't even mind *Bond* being black, again his race was never specified, as long as the right actor was chosen for the part. If the producers found the young, British equivalent of Denzel, then hey, I'm game.
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Do people actually give a shit about Black Moneypenny? Or the whole 'concern' over Black Heimdall? PC 'bullshit' died in the 90s. It doesn't exist anymore, or shouldn't, because when I saw this chicky I didn't think "OMG BLACKNESS" I thought, "HEY CRABZILLA!", because who gives a fuckety fuck that she's black? She's gorgeous, and she's great. The character is in no way 'about' whiteness; by casting a black actor the character isn't suddenly 'about' blackness. And now I looked up and saw a bunch of people just said the same thing. Handjobs all around.
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July 9, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST
I wish they would have kept Gemma Arteron's charcater around a while longer.
by Margot Tenenbaum
She was the only likeable character in QUANTUM OF SOLACE, IMO. Man, that Marc Forster sure was a eurotrash douchebag.
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Man, that margot_tenenbaum sure is an illiterate Midwesterner.
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For some reason I don't like the idea of quintessentially English Miss Moneypenny being played by a black actress. Primarily I think I just don't like the idea of a well established character changing for the sake of change. Add a new secretary, say Moneypenny has retired, and have Miss Loveday replace her. I never cared though about the fact that Felix was changed into a black character. (It worked well), or that M was changed into a woman (that kind of made sense as she was the successor for the previous M) I think we can all agree though, that under no circumstances should Bond sleep with Moneypenny. Never in any of the films has Bond gone there. In the older films Moneypenny had a crush on James, in the Brosnan era she was more aloof and tried to pass throw off his flirtations as unprofessional. Bond is ultimately a professional, and wouldn't sleep with Moneypenny. He has plenty of other women for that, who he doesn't have to face on a day to day basis.
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...Quantum as depicted in the films is run by the Spang brothers - in this case Fiennes and Bardem might both be villains. Anyway, I like Naomi for Moneypenny, she could sell the part as very smart.
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"Hey nonny nonny. Forsooth." What the fuck lol You actually think you won the argument. Damn, I've met some stupid losers in my time but... "Note how I specifically said "culture" rather than "race" It's all semantics, which makes you an even bigger moron. I need to stop typing before I laugh my self to death. lol
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"Hey nonny nonny. Forsooth." You are still a dork and any woman who is hot that would give you attention is just as clueless as you. lol Now get off the computer and play your playstation games. lol
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I don't know if it will sit too well with the black audience, Moneypenny being black. Just because her character is always drooling over Bond and he's always being condescending to her. I can picture a black member of the audience screaming "Black Rage!"
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/FUCK Lando Calrissian!
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See, told ya that you were funny.
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by making an issue out of it. They hired a female actress. Period.
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She's Black? You can't say that; she's African-American! Oh wait, she's British-African? African-British? Britican? Afrish? Damn you Political Correctness! Why can't she just be plain old simple: "a woman"! And what is Lando and Mace Windu? Why is there still an NAACP? Why aren't they NAAAA? We have an African American President, how much more advancement is there? Political Bull$#itness makes my head hurt...
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Seriously, can you really imagine this beautiful black BRITISH professional of a woman uttering the phrase"YEAH IT'S LIkE THAT!" or "YEAH, IT'S ON!" ???Really? She'd look pretty silly doing that, and I'm sure even Ms. Harris knows this. Being young and black doesnt translate to being hip and modern. That doesn't even make sense. THAT'S racist. Still, I it's flattering that you think black folks are so dope that our mere presence automatically validates any work of art, or how hip another person is. As one of my white friends once told me, "Having you around us makes us look good." And then I stopped hanging out with them. I guess they don't look so good anymore, huh?
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July 10, 2011, 2:21 a.m. CST
They should make Shaft a white guy! (Who still fucks the black chicks)
by ZombieHunter
And make John Henry a white guy! No? Well then that's racist! The whole essence of James Bond is that he represents Briton. If you were a white guy, he's what you strive to be. He wears a tuxedo or simple dark blue suite. Drinks martinis. Hangs out at Blades. Is patriotic. Loyal to Queen and Country. Went to Eton. Served in the military. Hates the commies. There is nothing black about the cast of James Bond, just as there is nothing white about the cast of Shaft. If that's racist then there's no reason they can't make Shaft a white guy in the next remake. It's not racist for white people to want to hold on to cultural icons. But it is racist to say that white icons can be altered, but other ethnic icons can not be touched in order to preserve their cultural significance. I remember reading how Puff Daddy wanted to be the next James Bond. When you see him wearing a white fur coat with all the gold on him you realize there is nothing James Bond about him. The irony is that he is attracted to the image of James Bond, yet that image is everything that he is not.
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Where does it say that James Bond is being played by black man this time around? Last time I checked James Bond was still melanin-deficient. Oh, and he STILL fucks black girls. Same old story, but with a new tune. And btw, Moneypenny aint no damn icon, you've got strands of underwear stuck up crack.
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It's a very good Bond film, and a worthy follow up to Casino Royale... After a stunning first 20 mins I found Casino to be quite a drag - especially that attempt at 'character stuff' in the last half hour. QoS, however, boasted some properly good set pieces - most of all the opera scene - plus a finale that was hot and fast as opposed to Casino's slow, wet sink. People often say that QoS 'isn't a Bond film'. but it's just as much a Bond film as Casino - - and it looks more stunning than any Bond since the 60s.
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Now there is a man who knows what he's saying! We should make him our leader.
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July 10, 2011, 6:27 a.m. CST
RACISTS LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Illuminate
@zombiehunter Here is where what you said is logically flawed. 1. Shaft is not in the majority. Black people still account for fewer people in movies. So, what you just said is oppressing. As soon as black people get into a majority percent than there would not be a problem with it. Until then what you said is completely racist. 2. Yes, James Bond does represent England. That is the only statement you are correct about. But, your dumb ass is aware that there are black people that have lived there for hundreds of years just like in the U.S. Again, your statement is as stupid as shit and you are either blind of the OBVIOUS because your mommy raised you to be a racist or you are just a moron. All the racists who have commented make me sick. It says that you morons are still out there. Well, you don't have to put up a burning cross to go to hell. Satan is waiting for your asses to burn you like he waited for Hitler. Oh, and all you movie lover racists would never get into Hollywood since it is run by great Jewish people and the people who are for giving blacks roles when they have earned it. She is definitely a talented actress and I hope she doesn't read your asshole comments. She doesn't deserve any of the HATE that you losers are spilling.
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Making James Bond - a British (be it English or Scottish) man who attended elite old-boy schools and universities, was trained by the SAS and works for MI6 initially infiltrating Soviet Russia - BLACK, is sort of like writing a story about an African man who grew up in extreme poverty in Uganda, fought for guerilla armies and now works for a dictatorship government against neighbouring tribal areas a white guy played by Michael Cera. Racism is deplorable but reality is sort of difficult to ignore.
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brosnan was fired by barbara brocolli and Micheal G wilson, the daughter and Stepson of Cubby brocolli. even though they were critically reviled his four bond movies were four of the most successful bond movies in the franchises's history. the control went to brosnan's head and he demanded more and more of a say including who his replacement should Brocolli and Wilson grew tired of this and after die another day. they terminated his contract , over the phone.
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I used to know what a Bond film was about. Quit messing up a great concept. I have no desire to see 'splosions, crackups, and nausea-zoom cams anymore. Just give me a real Bond film already.
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In case you haven't noticed, there's been OTHER actors, besides Roger Moore, who've played James Bond before Daniel Craig over the past 40+ years. All better than Craig, and all MUCH closer to the literary Bond than Craig's interpretation. Craig plays Bond as a brainless killer working for the mob. He even looks like one. Even when given orders to get information from someone, he ignores them and kills the person he's sent to, without even getting the information he needs! That's NOT James Bond. Bond is a secret agent with a license to kill, if necessary, but that's NOT his first instinct and he doesn't do so recklessly. Plus, Bond is charming and able to pass in high society. Craig's Bond looks like a neanderthal in a bad suit. Or, at best, an uncomfortable bodyguard for someone ELSE at the party.
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July 10, 2011, 10:26 a.m. CST
Quit whining bitches! Look at recent Bond History...
by I_Snake_Plissken
Q is dead, and he was the only component of Bond left that could be considered truly sacrosanct. The addition of Dench as M was great, and Craig makes a fantastic Bond. Quantum of Solace was kind of lame, but before that Casino Royale was the best Bond in 25 years (you have to go back to For Your Eyes Only to find a better film). While Goldeneye is decent, the whole Brosnan era is horrible - ultra cartoony with horrible Bond girls (Teri Hatcher, Halle Berry, Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist?!?) I say go with the fresh start, who cares what color she is.
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as long as all roles are cast race-neutral. Blacks would have no problem with that, as long as ALL roles were available to all actors. I promise you it is white assholes afraid of losing privilege who would squeal the most. Unless you complained about "Last Airbender" you are hypocritical beyond belief. No, I'm betting you only complain if a formerly white character is cast a different way, and you're CERTAIN it was done specifically for some PC purpose, because you can't conceive of someone just saying: "such and such an actress would be perfect!" I read all the Bond novels, and it was glaringly clear that the Bond of the 60's would have to have been white to move in the circles he did. But today? There isn't anything about his skills or actions that would preclude him being at least part African--including the fact that white racists, of which there seem to be an overwhelming number, would NEVER suspect him of being hypercompetent. Could be fun to watch their dismay as they realize their bigoted assumptions have lead to the unraveling of their world domination plans. Damn! They really need to do that, just once...
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But we weren't in the same year. I was 4 decades behind her.
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By casting Will Smith as James West in WILD, WILD WEST. It SUCKED!!!! >:O
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And Bond seduces one in order to defeat them.
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If you mean, something from one of the '60's entrants, well, those were products of their times, and the vision of a particular producer. The only 'real' Bond is the one as written on the page by Ian Fleming, which, by the way, had no wacky humor (Roger Moore Bonds) and zero gadgets.
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...with only one of them being really good, Craig is the second best Bond, after Connery of course. I actually don't see him making many more, maybe this one that's about to shoot, and that's it. In all likelihood, Michael Fassbender will be offered the part, after his Bond-like audition in X-Men FC. Whether Fassbender accepts it or turns it down is another matter; he may think that the role would typecast him. Reportedly, back in the '80's, pre-Dalton, Mel Gibson famously turned down Bond, because he obviously had better options. Fassbender, as well, is on track to be the 'next Russell Crowe/Hugh Jackman' with or without Bond.
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July 10, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST
Yeah, hipshot, the new Bond franchise isn't doing anything different....sigh
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
A black Felix, a much less male model level handsome Bond, much less gadgetry, a female 'M' (yes, I know it's a holdover from previous Bonds), etc. etc etc.
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July 10, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST
Illuminate looks like the biggist, whiniest race-complainer I've seen here.
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
Congrats, that's quite an achievement. Pretty much everything you said was wrong and laughably biased. You're almost worse than the supposed racists here that you're spazzing over. No, you are worse, because I see little actual racism here and your little rant is much worse because you're bitching about people whom have NO desire to kowtow to PC mentality. You on the other hand would rather these people, who speak a lot of truth, be silenced so that your delicate feelings won't be hurt. Seriously, I am sure there are meds for your obvious issues.
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1) WWW was a terrible movie. On the surface they went "race neutral" but underneath...no, they were very aware he was black. Now, if they had taken that premise to the end of the line, fine. In other words, how might a black man have risen to the top of the secret service? Given a high enough level of skills, why not? Certainly, he'd make a perfect spy. But no one connected to the movie had the slightest sense of West as a real human being. "Raised by the Indians"? What a crock of shit. He might have said "raised by the Apache" or 'raised by the Kiowa" or something. And of course...no sex. literally, less sex than an average episode of the television show. Typical way to treat black characters in prospective blockbusters. 2) sierratango--I have no idea what you're talking about, really. They always mix things up in the Bond world, which is why the series has kept going for fifty years. I like the new approach--just as valid as casting pure pretty-boys, when Bond was never described as 'pretty' at all. you seem to be criticizing something you imagine I meant, rather than anything I said or thought.
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They cast a black actress because it more accurately reflects our multicultural and multi-ethic world, especially here in the US and Britain. Back in the 60's everyone involved in the government was white as a sheet and went to the same snooty schools, but nowadays it is much more diversified. Just look at the last two presidential administrations in the US, where we have had a black president, a black and a female Secretary of State, and a black female National Security Advisor, not to mention how many minority secretaries, assistants and deputies. I can see any studio executive or director wanting a much more diversified cast because it makes the film seem much more "realistic." To only cast white actors in a modern James Bond film would only make it seem more dated and out of touch, and I can see executives and directors taking that into account.
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July 10, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST
They always mix things up in the Bond world...
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
Uh, no they don't. Please tell me that's a joke. That's why the Brosnan franchise withered and died. Too much of the same thing too often. A good percentage of Bond movies pre-Craig were cartoony and filled with gadgetry and comic book type villains. When walking into a Bond movie, and if you're familiar with them, you know what you're going to get. It'd almost a formula, but the elements themselves are interesting which is why the franchise is so successful and long lasting.
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July 10, 2011, 2:39 p.m. CST
There were supposed to be quotation marks around the subject line in my post. Piece of shit TB software.
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
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He's perfectly capable of making excellent movies (Revolutionary Road, the great but underrated Road to Perdition), but whether he can pull of a good popcorn-action-escapist-blockbuster via a 007 flick, is an open question. He'll certainly need to heavily lean on a very good second unit (read: all the action scenes) team.
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MI6 agents these days are either super-intelligent upper-class snooty public school boys or hardened extraordinarily tough ex-SAS guys, most of whom come from Scotland and the North of England. These people are 99% white. Does this reflect the modern world? Yes, because it is entirely representative of these groups in real life. Is it multi-cultural? No. That doesn't make it racist. The reality is that certain places and organizations are still vastly majority white, whether people like it or not.
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They'll forgot about the conspiracy and it's gonna be boring again
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but considering that Harris is playing Ms. Moneypenny, a secretary and not a field agent, it is a moot point. Not everyone involved in government agencies, including the CIA or MI6, are field agents. And while the majority of field agents in the UK might be white & from Scotland, I doubt that applies to all the bureaucrats. In fact, I bet the majority desk agents and paper pushers don't fit your standard agent description a g, so it makes even more sense to cast people like Harris and Dame Dench in those parts, since it points out how unlike Bond they are.
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(Applauds.)
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July 10, 2011, 6:49 p.m. CST
If there were to ever be a black Bond, it would have to be Idris Elba, right? And Harris is a fine looking woman, no question.
by The Krypton Kid
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I should clarify that the upper-class public school boys tend to be from the south of England whilst the ex-SAS guys tend to be from Scotland and in some cases Northern England. The public school boys tend to enter Embassies as double agents where as the ex-SAS guys are 'operatives' like Bond would be. That's what made Sean Connery so perfect in the role, formidable yet affable. I'm sure there are bureaucrats in MI6 who meet certain diversity criteria but it has historically been extremely selective and maintained ties to certain families and universities (Oxford and Cambridge primarily with Edinburgh and St Andrews up north). The simple fact is that the more the powers that be make moves to "diversify" the cast, the more difficult it becomes to believe. The institutions the intelligence services symbolise are part of the "True British" ideology which really represents what Bond is all about. If they keep taking slices of this away then eventually you're left with just another action film which would be a terrible waste.
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at least from the nose down. That's a boner killer for me.
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It's fine if you think that there is no difference between the different eras of Bond. Cool. I see that there is a core formula that they tweak and bend, but never break. They mirror different social changes (feminism, AIDS [Bond became virtually monogamous during the AIDs scare]) mirror film conventions (Blaxploitation, Kung Fu movies, Bourne, Star Wars), change the level of realism (from "Live and Let Die" which had actual fantasy elements to "Moonraker" which was SF back to "For Your Eyes Only" which was almost as realistic as From Russia With Love"). They went to a winking, unrealistic Bond (Moore) to a dour, intense joyless Bond (Dalton) to a lethal killing machine Bond (Craig), and from ultimate womanizer (Connery or Moore) to, again, non sexually aggressive Bond (Dalton in "License to Kill). They bounce all over the place, but always keep the core conceit. It's how they've been able to keep it going for five decades. Again, if you don't consider that variation, fine. But I do, and I know that the producers do, and that that was part of the "Formula" Cubby Broccoli left for his heirs.
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Oct. 28, 2011, 3:08 a.m. CST
<quote>At least the camera might hold still on this one</quote>
by i_got_worms
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Oct. 28, 2011, 3:15 a.m. CST
"At least the camera might hold still on this one",
by i_got_worms
fucking quotation mark bollocks
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