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Daughter!! Wife!! Mother!! Warrior!! The New Trailer For Sarah Palin’s Big-Screen Debut THE UNDEFEATED!!

Published at: July 8, 2011, 2:55 a.m. CST by AICNStaff

I am – Hercules!!

She’s not afraid!!

I understand this is already out, but it’s going wider next Friday.

Quite a number of people are hoping she wins the GOP nomination next summer.

I’m one of them!!!

SPOILER WARNING: She’s awesome!!

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  • July 8, 2011, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Alright!

    by ratpack223

  • July 8, 2011, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Is this one by the same people who produced

    by MoffatBabies

    Michael Jackson: Milf-lover supreme?

  • July 8, 2011, 3:05 a.m. CST

    i wonder if this is playing is chicago...

    by soup74

    and if it is, would the theater be filled with people seeing it for ironic reasons? might be fun.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Or is it the people who brought us...

    by MoffatBabies

    Carrot-Top : The Praise of My Peers.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:08 a.m. CST

    Perhaps it's from the producers of...

    by MoffatBabies

    Stephen Hawking: A life in Dance

  • July 8, 2011, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Or maybe...

    by MoffatBabies

    Tommy Chong: The road to sobriety.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Palin is Oscar worthy!

    by secure214

    She should get a nomination at least. She has the role nailed. She is NOT running for President. She just wants your MONEY! It's always been about the MONEY! Fox News Analyst, Paid Speeches, 2 Books, 2 Book Tours, 1 Reality Show, 1 Movie...what's next...a cosmetic's line? PALIN COSMETIC'S - for the Conservative American Woman! FREE be-dazzled flag-pin with your 1st order! Obama will win in 2012

  • July 8, 2011, 3:13 a.m. CST

    I was thinking there's a chance it's from the people who gave us

    by MoffatBabies

    Jimmy Stewart: The Terror Within

  • July 8, 2011, 3:15 a.m. CST

    Is it possible this is from the masterminds behind

    by MoffatBabies

    John Oats: The Hits Years (1992-2009)

  • July 8, 2011, 3:17 a.m. CST

    NO! I remember now, it's from the tentpole kings that gave us

    by MoffatBabies

    Kanye West: Shedding The Ego

  • July 8, 2011, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Wife? Didn't her husband divorced her ass?

    by AsimovLives

  • July 8, 2011, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Except for the part where she was defeated

    by Sean

    And the other part where she quit

  • July 8, 2011, 3:20 a.m. CST

    I'd totally have sex with her if she'd let me but

    by alpha

    then I'd have to kill her to prevent Skynet taking over the world. I mean I dont care what political persuasion you are you want someone competent in charge. Romney might be a boring Mormon killjoy but he's a economically competent guy. Palin ... well she's scary on so many levels ... I shudder to think what could happen with a person in charge of the US who makes W look like a deep thinker.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Is this from the guys that did...

    by MoffatBabies

    Tony Danza: LSD.. within the within.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:25 a.m. CST

    From the people who brought you

    by MoffatBabies

    Paris Hilton's Secrets of The Hidden Universe

  • July 8, 2011, 3:29 a.m. CST

    I swear it's those guys, the ones that did that one movie

    by MoffatBabies

    Mohammad Omar: Unveiled - Building Afghanistan's Next Generation of Female Scientists.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:56 a.m. CST

    MILF in 3D!!!!!!!

    by F-18

  • July 8, 2011, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Is this a joke?

    by Lacloake

    ....no seriously..... Is this a joke?

  • July 8, 2011, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Forget Bridesmaids

    by musically_endowed

    This is the comedy of the year.

  • July 8, 2011, 4:35 a.m. CST

    Meh...whatever.

    by Isaac R.

    I'd still fuck her.

  • July 8, 2011, 4:37 a.m. CST

    Oh...

    by Isaac R.

    and so would you.

  • How can any of you, with a straight face, say that you would vote for this cretin. A beauty pageant contestant, 6 college's in five years to get a degree in journalism, became mayor of a town with 6,000 people with a 4 million dollar surplus only to turn that into a 22 million dollars debt. Only got picked to be John “Crash” McCain’s a knuckle dragging Neanderthal who thought that a VP with a vagina would get every woman in the country voting for him. Her husband is a redneck scumbag and the two of them associate with secessionists while their teenage daughter whores around and gets pregnant TWICE! Yeah, I said TWICE because Trig ain’t Sarah’s.

  • July 8, 2011, 4:46 a.m. CST

    IS THIS FROM THE GUY THAT MADE "HARRY KNOWLES - A LIFE OF EXERCISE"

    by CreepyThinMan

  • Don't get me wrong, Obama has turned out to be nothing but an Uncle Tom to the Corporatist/Banking/Military Plutocracy that is the United States of America as it is today. But at least Obama had to be an excellent liar to get where he is because a lot of smart people voted for him based on what he said. But Conservatives will swallow any stupid bullshit that they're told (death panels, healthcare is socialism, Obama was born in Kenya etc....). 60 MILLION of you dumb fucking cunts voted for that geriatric bastard and his bimbo. You treat politics like its a fucking sport when its about crafting laws and legislation to help govern our society and improve it. Which is why you fucking vote for people who do nothing but chant that they want to dismantle government and, once they are in power and have destroyed everything (George W. Bush), you blame it on someone else with absolutely ZERO facts to back up your claims as the people you voted for hold the country hostage and grind everything being done, to repair the damage that they did, to a schreeching halt until they get more tax cuts for the rich and do this while they talk about the EVILS of socialized medicine as they have had all of their medical and dental issues covered under a plan paid for by taxpayers. Conservatives are enemies of democracy.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Undefeated???

    by JethroBodine

    Didn't Katie Couric cut her off at the knees in an interview? Yup - no feet then. DE-Feeted! Ba-bump-tish! (http://instantrimshot.com/) ...and by her intellectually challenged sister from another mister no less. I've got a million of em! Be sure to tip your waitresses, or Bristol whichever the case may be... WACKA WACKA WACKA! But seriously folks? Didn't Obama DEFEAT her and McCain in the polls? Yup - DEFEATED! Not even funny.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Wocka Wocka Wocka

    by JethroBodine

    So I have an accent...

  • July 8, 2011, 5:25 a.m. CST

    NOW I REMEMBER! The producers of

    by MoffatBabies

    John Wayne Gacy - The Empty Basement

  • July 8, 2011, 5:32 a.m. CST

    nope, not them... it was the people who made the world smile with

    by MoffatBabies

    Tonya Harding - How I Won The Gold: 1992

  • July 8, 2011, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Why does anyone in the USA

    by buggerbugger

    give this thick, shrill-voiced cunt the time of day? She's the Jade Goody of politics.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:34 a.m. CST

    wrong again, these are the craftsmen behind

    by MoffatBabies

    Gene Siskel: Life After Ebert

  • July 8, 2011, 5:37 a.m. CST

    Or was it the "FUNgineers" behind

    by MoffatBabies

    Tom Cruise: Escaping The Cult

  • July 8, 2011, 5:41 a.m. CST

    FUNgineer

    by MoffatBabies

    Use it and I'll sue your ass to oblivion.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:42 a.m. CST

    NO, IT WAS "ED GEIN - VEGITARIAN MODEL OF SANITY!"

    by CreepyThinMan

  • July 8, 2011, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Undefeated

    by aceldama

    Umm... Did she seem to forget that she lost the last campaign she was involved in a couple years ago? Pretty much rules out that she was undefeated. Also, I'd consider these also defeats: She ran for the Republican nomination at the Republican primary for Lieutenant Governor and came in second (defeated). When mayor, she fired someone (a librarian) but rescinded the firing the next day due to public outlash against her decision. Every time things started to close in on her, she quit/resigned rather than face the issues. That might be pushing it, but I personally consider that as good as a defeat. In 2006, she campaigned for Governor, and part of her campaign was supporting the infamous "Bridge To Nowhere," saying she would "not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project ... into something that's so negative." Later, she said she was against the bridge from the start. But only after Congress eliminated the bridge (Though, it should be noted that the state still got the money). She was defeated in going against something she had used as a positive in her campaign. She put a $150 bounty on killing wolves, but a state judge ruled the bounty illegal. A commissioner that she had appointed resigned after two weeks on the job. (that one is a stretch, I admit) A legal defense fund she set up was found to be illegal. Her TV show was defeated in the ratings by everyone (practically). (Note: I'm not counting cultural or personality defeats, nor the times she has screwed up facts. It would be too easy to say "well, she isn't undefeated in presenting facts and knowing what she' is talking about.) Well, that should make my point.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Was I wrong this whole time and it was the Laughtsmen behind

    by MoffatBabies

    Al Gore's Global Whoring:The Big Climate Lie

  • July 8, 2011, 5:44 a.m. CST

    That trailer looks like a parody from The Colbert Report

    by Mozzerino

    Man, it's gotta be hard to be a political comedian in the US nowadays. How can you even make jokes about that stuff? It's already so ludicrous, it's doing the work for you.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Or was it the people who did the training video series

    by MoffatBabies

    Edward M. Kennedy's Emergency Swimming for Girls.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:49 a.m. CST

    EXPLODING TB IN 3....2.....1

    by DangerDave

  • July 8, 2011, 5:49 a.m. CST

    You know what they say, it's funny because it's

    by MoffatBabies

    false.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:53 a.m. CST

    did these guys make

    by MoffatBabies

    Oliver Stone: Just The Facts- A Historical Perspective in Film

  • July 8, 2011, 5:56 a.m. CST

    She's the Charlie Sheen of politics, she's winning!

    by kafka07

  • July 8, 2011, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Nope.. it's the creative team that did

    by MoffatBabies

    Dr Phil: The Harvard Years

  • July 8, 2011, 5:58 a.m. CST

    kafka07 argh beat me to that one

    by MoffatBabies

    dang

  • July 8, 2011, 6:12 a.m. CST

    I hear they're also working on

    by MoffatBabies

    Casey Anthony: Paying The Price

  • July 8, 2011, 6:14 a.m. CST

    Comedy hit of the SUMMER!

    by Darth_Kaos

    BTW- She's a cunt!

  • July 8, 2011, 6:30 a.m. CST

    YEEEEAAAAH! SARAH PALIN IS HERE TO FUCK THE WORLD!

    by Anklavepak

  • July 8, 2011, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Wins!

    by NudeandAroused

    I hope she wins the nomination as well! Obama will certainly win a 2nd term!

  • July 8, 2011, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Be Careful What You Wish For...

    by MarkWhittington

    She could become POTUS, which will surely cause cardiovasular incidents in certain quarters.

  • July 8, 2011, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Yo, catchtheman! Fucking "A" dude.

    by uberfreak

  • July 8, 2011, 7:12 a.m. CST

    She can't even spell 'undefeated',

    by empty_headed_animal

    but I'd still hit it.

  • July 8, 2011, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Is this some ultra dry subversive satire?

    by syn_flood

    It must be, surely?

  • July 8, 2011, 7:36 a.m. CST

    You also forgot greedy bitch and realty TV whore!

    by slave to the one

  • July 8, 2011, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Before this talkback gets too out of hand...

    by BizarroJerry

    let me say this. Everybody calm the FUCK down.

  • July 8, 2011, 7:43 a.m. CST

    I just laugh

    by Jeff England

    I just laugh at all the liberals abject hatred for this woman. Don't get me wrong, I don't think she win any election. But mention her name, and people start foaming at the mouth. It's almost Pavlovian. Sad thing is are just hating because everyone else is. Group hysteria or something.

  • July 8, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    She runs towards the danger.

    by PreciousRoy

    Okay, look... Sarah Palin is not awful. When she was in office, she actually seemed to do well in the office she was in, firing scandal aside. But how much of the Jonestown Kool-Aid do you have to swallow before you equate the above quote with a woman who rose to governor and then quit the office to spare herself embarrassment that might hurt a Presidential bid? Okay... she didn't RUN from the Governor's office, but she certainly walked away refusing to fight with her political enemies. If she's elected President and that Empress position she's coveting opens, will she abandon that office, too?

  • July 8, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    While Sarah's making movies,

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Michele Bachmann is out there actually working the rubes. She's as dumb as Palin, but crueler and more driven.

  • July 8, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    She runs towards the danger.

    by PreciousRoy

    Okay, look... Sarah Palin is not awful. When she was in office, she actually seemed to do well in the office she was in, firing scandal aside. But how much of the Jonestown Kool-Aid do you have to swallow before you equate the above quote with a woman who rose to governor and then quit the office to spare herself embarrassment that might hurt a Presidential bid? Okay... she didn't RUN from the Governor's office, but she certainly walked away refusing to fight with her political enemies. If she's elected President and that Empress position she's coveting opens, will she abandon that office, too?

  • Give me a break. No one seriously expects her to run, let alone win the nomination, least of all herself. It's the Left's wet dream but it ain't happening. She's a hillbilly Paris Hilton - a self-aggrandizing media distraction, but fairly harmless. And I would not be so cocksure about Barack Hussein winning. A recent poll has him losing to a *generic* Republican for chrissake. And now he's trying to save an illegal alien murderer from death row and has offered up Social Security and Medicare to the sacrificial altar. I swear, if his intent is to sabotage himself in the most egregious ways possible he's doing a fine job.

  • But Sarah just wants the spotlight and money. Bachmann actually wants to change laws and society to a form of corporate theocracy.

  • July 8, 2011, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Heh, (Not "Meh") I'd rather see Nailin Pailin than this shite!

    by Stalkeye

  • July 8, 2011, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Vanessa Redgrave is FINE in THE SEVEN-PER-CENT SOLUTION.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • July 8, 2011, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Cool news !

    by NuckyThompson

    my ass.

  • July 8, 2011, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Fake!

    by Blanket-Man

    This can't possibly be an actual trailer for an actual movie, can it? I figured I'd see a "Thursday at 9, on SCTV" tag at the end.

  • July 8, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST

    RE: "Daughter!! Wife!! Mother!! Warrior!! "

    by Stalkeye

    Wife? Uh didn't she have an affair with Todd's Business partner ? Mother? Oh, so much for her policies on abstinence as Bristol had dropped her load a few years back. Warrior? Fucking kidding me? She quit her Governership after Obie kicked her and MCcain's ass during the election. Oh she's a REAL Champion of People's rights.

  • July 8, 2011, 8:29 a.m. CST

    ADULTERER!!!

    by BSB

    Good catch Stalkeye.

  • July 8, 2011, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Is this directed by Christopher Guest?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • July 8, 2011, 8:48 a.m. CST

    catchtheman = My new favorite talkbacker.

    by HoboCode

    Preach it!

  • July 8, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Daughter!! Wife!! Mother!! Warrior!!

    by HoboCode

    Is this Chinatown 2?

  • BSB, To my regret, I haven't been up to date regarding Obie's current actions. (Got a bit sidetracked between Family Barbecues and Pool Parties as of late. Hey, that's what Summers are for right?) But if what you said is true, as you have no reason to lie, then it's not looking good for Da Man. He can't be strongarmed into making cuts towards Medicare and Social Security, otherwise he's just another Bullshit politician. However, I sure as hell ain't giving my vote to a Republican candidate as their primary interests is not fiscal responsibility, but lining the pockets of their millionaire backers/friends. Chris Christie is another fine example, not to mention that he missed the opportunity of receiving federal funding for schools within his state of NJ. If Barrack doesn't get his shit together, expect a low turnout via Voter apathy. (count me in.)

  • July 8, 2011, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Uh Oh BSB I think we should avoid discussing Politics

    by Stalkeye

    cause before you know it, You-Know-Who will rear his derranged ass in the thread. (0:' *Shudders*

  • My idea of a reality series would be based on that Movie that starred Ice-T and Rutger-Muthafucking-Hauer, I think it's called Survival of the Game in which assholes like her and DICK Cheny would be on the receiving end of a Hunter's rifle. Count me in as one of the Hunters. All that training from playing COD black Ops mustv'e paid off y'know.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:10 a.m. CST

    undefeated, except in '08

    by SithAboveAll

    duh.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    STALKEYE

    by BSB

    The problem is that he offered cuts to SS and Medicare with practically no strong-arming from the Republicans. Which is ludicrous. Just said to the Republicans, here is the ass of America please feel free to fuck it raw. These are programs that people ACTUALLY PAY INTO over the course of decades of being taxed at a very high rate. He's supposedly against raising taxes on the lower and middle classes but by offering cuts (and whatever alterations he has in mind) to SS and Medicare, he's effectively reaching into people's pockets and taking money that is already rightfully theirs. And he's doing it to the most vulnerable people. With every move he makes he shows another betrayal of your average citizen for the benefit of the monied powers.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST

    jae684, YEAH, US LIBS DO HATE SARAH PALIN AND DO YOU KNOW WHY?.....

    by CreepyThinMan

    She is to politics what Paris Hilton is to celebrity, what Bayformers is to cinema, what Lady Gaga is to music and what The Jersey Shore is to TV - THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR!!! - and she does NOTHING but drag us and society down to the level of her daughters retarded baby!!! The only people this woman appeals to is inbred retarded Southern fucksticks or anyone else who aspires to be a con artist who succeeds through nothing but sheer luck with no effort what-so-ever beyond her sociopathic scheming. Stupid cunt can't even name a fucking newspaper that she reads and then goes fucking crying about the MYTH that is the liberal media. Fucking imbecile then QUITS half way through her FUCKING FIRST TERM as Governor of Alaska just so that she could cash in on book deals and a motherfcking reality TV show!?! Is that really the type of person you fucking Conservative cocksuckers back? Of course, it's nothing new as you saw fit to elect a senile old bastard who was known as straight man to a fucking chimp (Reagan) or a silver spoon fed trust fund baby who had everything in life handed to him and then proceeded to fuck up every single thing he ever touched (George W. Bush) and that's not even including the fact that he bought that fucking ranch in Crawford to sucker dumb shit asswipes to vote for him because he was pretending to be a fucking cowboy. This is because you fucking worship John Fucking Wayne because you think he was actually a fucking cowboy and fought in WW 2 when he was nothing but a fat-drunk-bloated ex-football playing loudmouth who's real name was MARION!!! And just like Marion, Reagan and GWB, you don't give a fucking shit about reality because you're all mental spastics who would rather live in fantasy land where America is still the land that won WW2. You also don't give a fucking shit about Democracy except when it pertains to YOUR rights. But during the Bush Crime Organization's reign of Terror you were perfectly happy to sit back and watch Dipshit shred that "goddamn piece of paper!" (as GWB (aka SHIT FOR BRAINS) put it.) and illegally wiretap peoples phones and internet transitions. You also don't fucking care about the Rule of Law as you cheered on Puppetboy and Darth Cheney as they blew the cover of a C.I.A. Operative as political payback and you sure as sweet fucking mother of fucking shit couldn't care less about the illegal war they started based on complete and total FUCKING LIES since it's not your family members getting blown to piece's over there by I.E.D's or by the thousands of bombs that the good old US of A has dropped on tens of thousands of innocent people including children, women and whole fucking families that have been wiped out by the fucking evils perpetrated by Conservatives, the USA and now continued by that fucking lapdog Obama who is now going to finish what GWB started and no one can stop him because the alternative of a President Palin, Romney or Bachmann is just to fucking horrifying to contemplate. The USA and the (sensible) people in it are fucked beyond words. What' your fucking alternative? A Corporatist ass kisser like Obama or some raving fucking lunatic like Palin. Both will only serve Wall Street and the Military who are the ones that really own your fucking country not to mention the cocksucking bible thumpers who would burn women at the fucking steak if they were allowed. You don't have a fucking democracy anymore and the USA as it was is now FUCKING FINISHED!!! Reagan was the beginning of the end and Obama will finish the American Dream off once and for all as he pretends to cave to the people who's ideology he shares as he dismantles your country's infrastructure and if not him then it will be the next fucking hood ornament that your bullshit elections put in the fucking White House. You have no fucking choice!!! Just to make myself clear, I hate every single one of you worthless conservative bastards. You contribute NOTHING to society other than pain, misery, death, destruction and your lives are not built on working towards a better tomorrow for the children of the future but only concerning yourselves with whatever petty little fucking issues that you think are soo fucking important whether it be Guns, Gays, Religion, Abortion, Illegals etc..... FUCK YOU ALL AND BURN IN THE FUCKING HELL THAT YOU MAKE FOR YOURSELVES!!!

  • July 8, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    STALKEYE PART DEUX

    by BSB

    Well, I would welcome a good political chat with GoblinKnightLex if he's willing. It would be a shame to see a third Palinback go to waste. There's a good mix of right, left and middles around here.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Dang... Not Undefeated 4..

    by Rustle

    I thought this was Undefeated 4. I was hoping they'd bring back Michael Jai White this time. I love those movies.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:25 a.m. CST

    This looks...

    by oJAEflo

    ...sofa king funny. So the deal is, pay to watch an hour-plus Sarah Failin commercial? HILARIOUS!

  • July 8, 2011, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Anybody who thinks....

    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    That Palin is "Anti-Establishment" and will "Get Rid Of The Fat Cats" is so fucking stupid that they need to be watered twice a week. Oooooh, LOOK - She's been a DAUGHTER! And a MOTHER! Well, Fuck - If those are qualifications to be President of the United States, then I guess we should all get behind Casey Anthony when she announces her intention to run.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:32 a.m. CST

    WELL SAID, CTM

    by BSB

    Agree 100%. Except for Gaga and Jersey Shore.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:34 a.m. CST

    OY. PLEASE DON'T MENTION CASEY ANTHONY.

    by BSB

    The prosecution screwed the pooch on that one. Totally over-reached and now we have to put up with Jose Baez' smug celebration all over the telly.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:36 a.m. CST

    CTM: "YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CHOICE!!!"

    by BSB

    Precisely. We are locked into a two-party system that is solely beholden to the special interests. THAT's the problem.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Another Reboot

    by DaBUU

    Forrest Gump: A Reimagining

  • " The problem is that he offered cuts to SS and Medicare with practically no strong-arming from the Republicans. Which is ludicrous. Just said to the Republicans, here is the ass of America please feel free to fuck it raw. These are programs that people ACTUALLY PAY INTO over the course of decades of being taxed at a very high rate. He's supposedly against raising taxes on the lower and middle classes but by offering cuts (and whatever alterations he has in mind) to SS and Medicare, he's effectively reaching into people's pockets and taking money that is already rightfully theirsWith every move he makes he shows another betrayal of your average citizen for the benefit of the monied powers. " By doing so, he has definately failed my Litmus Test. The one thing you don't do is fuck with programs that are a benefit to the disadvantaged (elderly and the disabled.) who rely on said programs. The "Brotha" has assed out. I see another potentual candidate on my "Surviving the Game" reality show. (0:<

  • July 8, 2011, 9:44 a.m. CST

    A Non-Political Observation

    by micturatingbenjamin

    This woman quit her job amid controversy because it was going to be shown she couldn't handle being a public official without abusing her authority. She also comes off as weapons-grade retarded in every interview with a 'gotcha' question. Questions like -- 'What newspapers do you read?' Which is what I'd ask someone I suspected of not knowing their ass from a hole in the ground, to find out if I was right. She is an attractive older lady, who has apparently put crosshairs over her political opponents, and when they get shot (like she wanted) she doesn't just go 'Awesome, now we're talkin' Alaska politics, you betcha!' she claims that 'reload' is somehow related to survey markers. Even her lies are retarded. I wouldn't vote for her. Well, I wouldn't vote for her in the general election. I would pay a thousand dollars to see her in the debates though. She's solid gold idiocy. Not that that seems to matter to either side these days. MB

  • July 8, 2011, 9:47 a.m. CST

    looks interesting

    by Tigger Tales

    I wonder how it was financed. Kinda cute that her party is semi-taking her seriously.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Welcome to the 8th Circle of Hell

    by WerePlatypus

    The Gargoyles are waiting for you, baggers.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Idiocracy 2

    by tatoosh

    Electric Boogaloo

  • July 8, 2011, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Speaking of John Wayne...

    by HoboCode

    Anybody catchsee when that dumb cunt Michelle Bachmann thought John Wayne was born in her home town of Iowa. Oops that wasn't John (Marion) Wayne but actually John Wayne Gacy, the serial killer that raped and murdered 33 teenage boys and young men. That should tell you all you need to know about that fucking dingbat.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Is this her porn debut?

    by Nick

    Because that's the only way I'll even be interested in watching a movie about her.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:13 a.m. CST

    SARAH-AHH-AHHH!!! DEFENDER OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!!!!

    by vulturess

    THE UNDEFEATED CUZ I QUIT FIRST.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:13 a.m. CST

    micturatingbenjamin

    by HoboCode

    We did see her in debates when she was a VP candidate. And as annoying as she was when she could (like many politicians) fairly competently ramble off memorized talking points semi-related to the pre-screened question she was asked. It wasn't nearly as entertaining as you thought it would be. Then again she was up against Joe "Gaff" Biden. Against a shrewder debater it might have been more of a bloodbath.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST

    That kind of propaganda puts the Nazi's to shame.

    by moonlightdrive

    One word: "timing". They've taken all the 'spin' from those recent tornadoes and channelled it into a movie. Impressive.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:36 a.m. CST

    hobocode

    by D_T

    That's amazing. Didn't see that [specific] moment of raging stupidity, but I know all my conservative relatives (mainly the wife's parents/aunts/uncles) think Bachmann is the cat's ass, and that all us libs are "skeered" of her (and Palin) because she's a woman. The irony is painful.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST

    What's sad about this...

    by Doughboy

    Is that a feature-length documentary needs to be made in the first place to explain to people(including many Republicans) what she did while in office for 2 1/2 years. Believe it or not, she does have a record and it consists of a lot more than made up BS like book banning, rape kit charging, trooper firing, and hiding the true identity of her Down Syndrome baby's birth mother. You'd think in 3 years time, someone, anyone in the press would do a story or at the very least ask a series of questions about her time as governor. But I guess it's easier to just book Levi Johnston on your show and let him fabricate lies for 10 minutes. BTW, Herc. Did you see the jobs report this morning? Unemployment ticked up to 9.2% and the economy produced a whopping 18,000 jobs in all of June. Chr-st, a trained chimp could do better than that! So mock Palin or any other Republican all you want, but Obama is such a disaster as President(easily the worst C-in-C in modern history) that a hamburger will beat him next November. (Oh, and don't forget that gas prices are starting to tick up again. So much for p-ssing away 30 million barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.)

  • July 8, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Michele Bachmann is hotter that Sarah Palin.

    by frank

    Crazier too.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:48 a.m. CST

    *than*

    by frank

  • Fuck, where were you during the last Palin thread? Your posts would have made for good counter-vitrol. Now all we need is Chrissssssmmmmm and Coughlin's Laws to show up and it's party time!! "Drinks-are-on the House"! (get the snide reference?)

  • July 8, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Palin was absolutely ridiculous in the VP debate.

    by frank

    When she was asked a question she would respond with a memorized monologue that was blatantly unrelated to the question that had been asked in any way. If you just had the debate on in the background while you were cleaning or something, it might have appeared that she was performing competently since she was saying a lot of words that sounded political-ish, but if you were actually paying attention it was obvious that it was a complete farce on her part. Biden is no master debater, but he looked like a super genius next to Palin.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    SO, I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHO WILLIAM_FAULKNER REALLY IS: HERC

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Sorry, Beaks. Not really.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:56 a.m. CST

    hobocode , Now that was fucking hysterical Buahahahahahah!

    by Stalkeye

    Dumb Cunt is right.

  • Not because he wants her to be president. Right?

  • July 8, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST

    QUITTER, TRAILER TRASH, SOULLESS, SPY

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • July 8, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Aww Hell Naw doughboy, fuck that.

    by Stalkeye

    As much as a Letdown "Bama is nowadays, his adminstration will pale in comparison from the shitstorm that will ensue once that Twat Palin gets into "Orafice" A fucking Gun toting hick will get our asses into six wars while going full on retatrd when making decisions that can effect each and every American. Expect a marathon of Vetos and fillerbusters comin' soon. You Betcha! Plus anyone who is against reproductive rights especially in cases of rape and incest should quit Politics and go crawl back to their cult that is known as Fellowship of the Church.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    doughboy

    by HoboCode

    I'll give you the media's bias on Palin. Your comment on booking Levi rather doing actual reporting has pangs of truth and perfectly illustrates just how lazy and idiotic the mainstream media has become. Gas prices? It's summer time. They always go up this time of year. How many more Arab countries do you want us to invade? If only we had an extensive and efficient high-speed rail system so we could be less reliant on gas. The economy? That's a whole other ball of wax. Why isn't the private sector hiring? I mean they are but not at nearly the rate they should be. I mean it's not like their not raking in the profits. I guess its easier just to hire overseas and exploit slave wages. Trickle-down economics fail. Global economy fail. But hey why isn't public sector job growth up? Oh yeah we have to trim the debt to appease the right so they're slashing government jobs left and right. If only these people were allowed to collectively bargain and prices could be controlled in order to protect their jobs from the whims of the free-market shock syndrome. People need to wake up and realize that what we need is not a political revolution, but an economic one. That's where the power lies.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    franks_television

    by Doughboy

    As opposed to Biden who got Article I of the Constitution wrong in that debate and also claimed that we and France kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon? BTW, franks, Hezbollah is.....forget it, franks. Don't worry about it. It's real world stuff that doesn't concern you.

  • As opposed to Palin who just recited random phrases she had learned by rote memorization that were completely unrelated to the questions asked.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    This is a joke right?

    by Andrew Coleman

    Undefeated... You mean always defeated right? I mean 2008 comes to mind. She also just fails at common logic. She is the figure head of what is wrong with people today. She doesn't understand history but if she just says things towards a certain demographic then she's right. No, she's wrong and a stupid cunt at that. I can't believe... And I mean I can't believe I'm hoping Mitt "Who let the dogs out right?" Romney wins the GOP. He is like the only sane fucking person running. What the fuck has happened to Republicans and America? Everything is just going crazy and evil lunatics seem to be trying to take office.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Palin wouldn’t have even had a clue what Hezbollah was

    by frank

    let alone that it had something to do with Lebanon.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Wow. I'm surprised. Usually my fellow fanboys here are all Glenn Becky types.

    by impossibledreamers

    Nice to know there's some common sense out there about this glory hound. She has NO intentions of really running. She doesn't want to cut off her Fox News money for four years. But, Sarah will help suck the life out of the candidates that might actually have worked out and then blame the left-wing media for her sabotage efforts.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST

    GOP?

    by BERSERKR

    What is it? And gods I hope not, she's a fucking lunatic.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST

    But she quit her bus tour around America. So she...was defeated.

    by knowthyself

  • July 8, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST

    She's still hot though...

    by knowthyself

    She really is.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Here's what I don't get about people who vote Republican

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    1. Do you really agree with the radical anti-government agenda that is running the party and wants to do away with Social Security and Medicare? The majority of Republican voters are going to need Medicare and SS when they retire too. And why shouldn't you get it? You paid into it. 2. Why do you feel the need to defend charlatans like Sarah Palin? Do you really believe that she is a qualified and viable candidate? Really?! 3. Are you ok with the fact that corporations have basically bought our government? 4. Why is it that you fear government power but you don't care about corporate power? At least we have a say in out government. We have no say in what corporations do.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Kerning people…

    by dashiel

    Yes it’s trivial, but Jesus Christ did they create that in PowerPoint? It’s not easy to get such bad typesetting in this day & age.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    See, I don't find Palin hot. Never did.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Now, Casey Anthony on the other hand. Hoo-Haa! Hmmm, maybe if Palin murdered Trig...

  • July 8, 2011, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Palins not a conservative, she's an opportunist

    by leo54304

    Everything she does is to make money for herself or daughter. At a recent Minneapolis book signing, in order to get her signature you had to also buy her daughters book who was sitting next to her. One of her favorite movies is Jerry MacGuire. Why? She lives by the phrase: Show me the money!! She's not a true conservative in that she really believes in it. She knows her audience and what they want to hear so she just says the same basic speech over and over and shows no interest in the issues. At least Michelle Bachmann really has conservative principles and is willing to talk about the issues in addition to actually serving her country. Whether or not you agree with her is your preference (I don't). And also Bachmann is willing to go on other networks which shows some political courage even if she never offers anything but standard talking points or refuses to answer questions (To be fair, in that respect she's like a lot of politicians).

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Immediately after the trial, Vivid productions (porns biggest movie company) offered Casey Anthony a contract to make a movie but after the public outrage over the verdict, they withdrew it. You know you're scum when even the porn industry doesn't want anything to do with you.

  • July 8, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Well, Vivid's got one guaranteed customer

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    MILF No More

  • July 8, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST

    the_choppah

    by Doughboy

    1) Which Republicans want to do away with Social Security and Medicare? Name me a single GOP member of Congress who is on record as wanting to do that. And before you come back with your DNC-issued talking point citing Paul Ryan's plan, he wants to reform Medicare not end it because at the rate we're going, entitlement spending is going to bankrupt this nation. We're practically there already with $1.5 trillion annual deficits. Hell, I personally would love to do away with them. They're ponzi schemes that are unsustainable. But at the very least they need to be made solvent or else no one will be getting their SS checks or Medicare benefits when they retire(see Greece if you don't believe me). 2) Is Palin qualified? Well, in the age of Obama, yes she is. If a community organizer with only 2 years in the Senate, no legislative achievements, and zero executive experience is deemed qualified for the most powerful office in the world by a bunch of mind-numbed robots chanting "yes we can" and "hopenchange", then someone who served 2 1/2 years as governor and ran her own private sector business is eminently more qualified. You can scoff all you want, but if you disqualifiy Palin, then you can't possibly justify the election of Barack Obama. 3) Yes, I do feel that corporations and other special interests(namely unions) have bought our government. I'm not sure why you think this is strictly the domain of Republicans however. Obama since coming into office has given numerous bailouts to banks and financial institutions, as well as GM and Chrysler. He's hired a bunch of Goldman Sachs execs to work in his administration. He's given GE all kinds of special treatment. He's handed out billions to green energy companies, some of whom have used that money to hire people overseas. He gave $2 billion to a Brazilian oil company partially owned by George Soros so they could drill offshore and create jobs for their own citizens while American workers in the Gulf are watching US-based rigs shut down or move overseas. He let Google lobbyists help write the Net Neutrality Act. He let health insurance and pharmaceutical lobbyists help write Obamacare. And he continues to give unions like the SEIU, UAW, and AFL-CIO anything they want, even if it means violating bankruptcy law in the aforementioned case of the GM and Chrysler bailouts. Obama is one of the biggest crony capitalist politicians I've ever seen. The only way anyone could justify defending this behavior is if they're personally benefiting from these payoffs or if they're so stupid and ignorant that they don't have a clue he's been doing any of this the last 2 1/2 years. 4) This is pretty much the same topic as #3. But if you want to limit corporate power in government, first it might help to have real transparency. Not the fake kind Obama always praises himself for. It might help to ban lobbyists from working in the White House. You know, like Obama promised he would do, but didn't follow through on? And it might help to close corporate tax loopholes so companies like GE don't get away with paying no taxes because they've parked all their profits overseas. And finally, it would help choppah if you'd remove your head from your sphincter and stop acting like all Republicans are evil greedy bastards and Democrats are innocent, kind-hearted saints. They all suck on the same corporate teet. But until we as a nation vote the current crop of bums out and replace them with people who'll actually reform the system(you know, like that ditzy broad from Wasilla who actually put corrupt politicians in prison, cut government spending, and stood up to greedy oil execs while she was governor of Alaska), nothing will ever improve in this country.

  • July 8, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    doughboy: Paul Ryan wants to 'reform' Medicare?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    It sounds like you're the one on the talking points. 'Reform' doesn't mean phasing out what's mainly a single-payer a program and replacing it with a taxpayer-funded voucher program that, after a certain amount spent, leaves senior citizens to the whims of the private insurance market. Oh, but it'll keep the name 'Medicare,' so that makes all the difference, right?

  • Because, you know, senior citizens vote more than anyone else, and you can't piss that away!

  • July 8, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    *Currently 55 and older, that is.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Everyone else better save up millions of dollars by the time they hit 55.

  • July 8, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST

    I am - Hercules is dead to me

    by Colebrax

    Perhaps I'm not picking up on his sarcasm but if we accept his enthusiasm for Palin at face value is anyone else less likely to read one of Herc's reviews ever again? I'm not sure his spinal cord reaches all the way to his brain.

  • She wants to "wean" everyone off it. Besides, who can forget that the last Republican president actually proposed replacing Social Security with private investment accounts! It's pretty much what NJ's Christie Todd Whitman did with public workers' pension accounts. Even though the state paid into them, she floated them on the stock market. Then the subprime crisis hits, and goodbye pensions! The state was left with a big fat bill on that one. So ... what was the solution? Well, here comes Governor Sandwiches using this as an example of the 'government not working' and an excuse to put more of the burden of payment on the workers. This is the GOP strategy: Set up booby traps to go off just in time for Democrats to take power, watch the shit blow up in everyone's faces, and exploit those issues to come back to power in a weakened, less credible government, only to enact more destructive policies that will strengthen wealthy elites in the private sector.

  • July 8, 2011, 12:33 p.m. CST

    But then, one of the rallying cries of the Teabaggers was:

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Keep government out of my Medicare!

  • That would be career suicide. But, that is essentially what the Ryan plan will do to Medicare. And now they want to cap SS so that there is no inflation rate increase which will seriously decrease benefits down the line. And you know that a lot of Republican leaders are like you and would love to see the end of SS and Medicare. They never liked it and now they see there opportunity. Of course, they're not stupid and they are going to gradually phase it out. Obama appears to be onboard with the cap on SS and if so I will not be voting for him again. I was already pissed when he agreed to the tax holiday for SS along with the extension of Bush disastrous tax cuts which are partly responsible for the Federal Budget deficit.

  • July 8, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Keep your government hands of my damn medicare

    by claxdog

    lololololololololololololololololololollol

  • July 8, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    The economy itself is a fucking Ponzi scheme.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    That's how it keeps progressing. One generation pays for the previous one. Inflation occurs because population and demand increases. If wages increase with or ahead of inflation, that's fine. The problems come from two major factors: 1. When the growing money supply is disproportionately collected by a small group of people and organizations. If they--the banks, wealthy private investors, corporations--have too much power and can exploit cheaper labor elsewhere, why should they feed it into a system that has a higher expectation for quality of life? 2. Excessive population growth. The Ron Paul-ites and the extreme right want to ENGINEER a population die-off by limiting monetary value in pegging it to gold or silver, both finite resources that are not easily obtained without capital or the means of production/excavation. Instead, nature should take its course, or people the CHOICE to scale back on reproduction. Of course, you need to be reasonably educated to understand this. But no. Religious and corporate powers do not want informed masses. They want as many stupid people as possible to serve their interests. More people, with less money per person, increases demand, thus increasing the masses' desire to work simply to survive. It's slavery.

  • And now Chris Krispycreme and his ilk are calling for shared sacrifice from federal workers while he cuts the tax rates even further for his Wall St. friends who caused this mess in the first place.

  • July 8, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Boy, there sure are a lot of idiots on here.

    by fanboy71

    Have any of you done 1/100th of what Palin has done with her life? Nope. Neither have I, but I'm not on here calling here disgusting names and hating her simply because my liberal talking heads tell me I should. If she hadn't had the audacity to run as VP against the media darling Obama, nobody would give a damn about her. The hate that comes from the liberals has to have a reason behind it, but damned if I can figure it out. Is it fear? I don't think she should run for POTUS either, but as a conservative, I like her stance on several issues. If she somehow did get the nomination (and I hope she doesn't) I would have to vote for her simply because Obama has been a dismal failure in every aspect of his presidency. Of course, I would vote for the wart on my dogs left testicle before I would vote for Obama. Obama will go down in history as one of the worst presidents EVER, and that's really saying something when you follow George W. Bush into the White House.

  • should face a Death Panel.

  • She constantly harps on the Lame Stream Media, while she herself is now a Main Stream Media figure and does essentially the same thing as the media pundits she despises. Hypocritical Harpy!

  • July 8, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    doughboy

    by fanboy71

    Well said my friend. Well said! But don't expect any of these liberal's on here to actually listen to facts. They only believe what John Stewart tells them to believe. To hell with facts, or actually researching anything for themselves.

  • If you are refering to commiting adultery, shooting caribou from Choppahs, (no pun intended.) putting fucking Crosshairs over Gabrielle Giffords' District, and always putting her foot in her Mouth? (I.E. Paul Revere, "Blood Libel", seeing Russia from Alaska,etc.) Naw, I guess I missed the Bus. (0:'

  • July 8, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    THIS SHOULD BE A DOUBLE FEATURE WITH 'TRIUMPH OF THE WILL'.

    by uberman

    Nazi Propoganda. That being said, Palin was not a bad gov. before McCain made her a celebrity. She made the big oil companys give a peice of their profits to every Alaskan, aka 'Socialism'. Ironic, as now she just feeds red meat to the corporate fascists on the right who hide behind psuedo patriotism.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Nice posts, choppah!

    by frank

    But you can’t be serious about not voting for Obama. Whatever conservative-leaning fiscal policies he might adopt are just borne out of a desire to appease the right. The republican candidate is likely to be much worse on any such issue than he is. The only logical choice is to back the lesser of two evils.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST

    The Paul Revere gaff...

    by Chris Moody

    ...was almost as bad as Obama's statement about visiting "all 57 states" and needing to visit "a few more." Then again, the ENTIRE Obama presidency has been one movable gaff. ♪ ♫ To the tune of Oscar Meyer... "Barack Obama has a way...of messing up the U.S.A."

  • July 8, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST

    franks, I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    You still get evil. We need a third party now more than ever. And NO, not the Tea Party. They are just pawns of the Republican Party and their corporate masters.

  • Try again. Also, I think the 57 states remark represents more of a mental typo rather than a fundamental misunderstanding of historical events, as we frequently get from Palin.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:33 p.m. CST

    They're trying to cash in on the Twilight crowd....

    by Mel

    dumb bitches.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    franks_television

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    I will vote for Obama for three reasons: 1. I remember 2000. Rick Perry will likely end up with the nomination at this point (mainly because, to the average American, he's Romney minus the Mormonism), and he's got that vague, Dubya-ish appeal that may sway some flaky, under-informed independents. Every vote's gonna count. 2. He won't be facing re-election in a second term, so I can see him swinging a bigger liberal stick this time around. 3. He's a fellow Chicago Bulls fan.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Yeah, the 57 states thing.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Obama probably had ketchup on his fries for lunch, and then had a brain fart. Palin completely mis-interpreted the political and historical realities of an event crucial to the nation's founding.

  • One that also happens to be fiscally conservative when it comes to military expenditures.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:39 p.m. CST

    @ franks...

    by Chris Moody

    Try again? ♪ ♫ ♪ The LAST LINE of the Oscar Mayer song: "'Cuz Oscar Mayer has a way. . . . . .With B-O-L-O-G-N-A." "Barack Obama has a way. . . . . .of messing up the U.S.A." ♪ ♫ ♪

  • Or is it ok with you that 1% of the population is taking in 80% of the GDP while the majority of Americans wages are stagnant or decreasing. And that less than 10% of the population possesses 75% of the country's wealth. I'm not for redistribution of wealth, but it is not healthy for the economy for so much wealth to be in so few hands. Forget about fairness. It's not sustainable. Wouldn't it make more sense to put more money in the hands of more Americans so that they can purchase more products from the Corporations?

  • July 8, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST

    @ Franks... And...

    by Chris Moody

    ...Obama has plenty of gaffs that his adoring fans in the media either refuse or fail to report on with the same gleeful smugness as they did Palin's comments or Dan Quayle's "potato" moment. Look them up on YouTube! They are...hilarious!

  • July 8, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    RON PAUL

    by The Aquarian 1

    Ron Paul is the only Republican you should be voting for Mr. I Am Hercules. Propaganda shouldn't sway your vote.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Tax the rich like they were taxed under Eisenhower.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Invest that money in infrastructure and scientific research and development that isn't necessarily tied to market whims. Let gays marry, legalize and regulate marijuana, and move Election Day to Saturday.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST

    RE: "We need a third party now more than ever."

    by Stalkeye

    Comedian! Smart Ass! Milf Hunter! And now Libertarian?!? UnChopped! Coming 2012!

  • July 8, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST

    CHOPPAH 2016

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • July 8, 2011, 1:51 p.m. CST

    See? I knew he would show up.

    by Stalkeye

    "That Train is never late". (0:'

  • July 8, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    @ the_choppah

    by Chris Moody

    The income disparity isn't because more people are becoming rich...but because more people are becoming poor. So what if a man or woman is successful enough to strike it rich? Should they be penalized if they are successful? Since when did success become TABOO to modern Liberal fanatics? More importantly, the number of Americans on the welfare roster WENT UP dramatically under Barack Obama. It continues going up each month. This is the cause of the disparity. People are relying on the government for their sustenance because they can't find a job. They can't find a job because Liberals penalize companies for succeeding and tax the bejeebus out of them. They don't contribute to the social system because they don't make enough, so they have zero tax liability come April 15th. The Liberal solution after they ran out of money? RAISE TAXES! We don't need to create taxes. We need to create JOBS. A tax-happy environment is NOT conducive for businesses to hire employees. In 2009, the Obama Administration promised that unemployment wouldn't hit 8% if Obama's economic policies were passed. Now approaching the third year of his pathetic presidency, Unemployment has been hovering between 9-10% ever since.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    More people are becoming poor

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    And, where, pray tell, is that money going?

  • July 8, 2011, 1:54 p.m. CST

    THE UNCOMPLETED

    by Snookeroo

    Governorship of Alaska. Cut and run, I reckon.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST

    The idea of a third party sounds good

    by frank

    but it seems like all they end up doing in reality is just dividing whichever major party they are more closely aligned with and handing victory to the other side. Ralph Nader helped Bush Jr. win and Ross Perot helped Clinton win. I can’t really think of any way out of the two party system, even though it does suck in a lot of ways. I am also hoping Obama will take the gloves off during his second term.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Ah yes, the end of the Oscar Mayer song.

    by frank

    My mistake. Your jingle is metrically correct then, if not factually.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:57 p.m. CST

    The rich have been experiencing historically low tax rates.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    And they still haven't created jobs. At least in America. Government investment is integral to creating jobs in construction, infrastructure and research and development, both in the private and public sectors. Instead, we've been allowing the rich to pay less in taxes through lower rates AND numerous loopholes, allowing them to horde cash or invest it in 'developing' economies loaded with poor populations willing to work for peanuts. The private sector is sitting on trillions of dollars, just waiting for naive Obama to be out of office. This way, they can flood the market with cheap, non-union jobs people will be grateful to take.

  • July 8, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST

    At this point, I would support Hillary over Obama.

    by Chris Moody

    The guy has simply proven what many of us feared in 2008 -- the man is unqualified for the job. Well, gotta run before Herc bans me again for disagreeing with his views on Leno or my questioning his obsession with Sarah Palin. It is sad that, after 14 years and countless TB discussions on everything from STAR WARS to LOST, I was banned a few days ago for questioning Herc's spin about Jay Leno's ratings. Go figure.

  • But it's still not enough in terms of the proportion of wealth. You want poor people to contribute more? What don't you get? They're already poor! And you want them to give up more of their money to support a system that has failed them because of its deference to wealthy elites?

  • July 8, 2011, 2 p.m. CST

    @ franks_television:

    by Chris Moody

    It's correct on both counts. ;-)

  • Sure Barney Frank advocated loans to those who were under financial hardship, but it was the banking industry that saw a cash grab from this too-good-to-be-true Ponzi scheme. And this was during whose Presidency/Adminstration?!!? *Jepoardy music playing*

  • July 8, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    @ the_choppah:

    by Chris Moody

    The "poor" (in the American connotation of the term) have ZERO tax liability. In fact, nearly 45% of the nation have NO tax liability. So, they wouldn't contribute "more" at all (other than local sales tax). Besides, I am not asking to CREATE TAXES. I am saying that we need to lower taxes in order to CREATE JOBS. This is Macroeconomics 101.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Undefetus: " A Winner never quits but a Quitter always whines"

    by Stalkeye

  • July 8, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Let's have four major parties, then.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    A right party, a center-right party, a center-left party and a left party. Coalition government, folks. A real one.

  • And the unemployment rate is 9.2%! THOSE are facts. CHOPPAHnomics 101.

  • Find literally one educated economist who believes this (and there are plenty of conservative economists out there) and post a link to them saying that it was extending home loans to the poor that caused the economic crisis. Super Special Tip: It's not possible to find this, because even conservative economists know that's totally crazy. And if you think you've found a conservative economist saying this, please make sure that their degree is in economics -- there's plenty of conservative intellectuals out there who love to talk about the economy but have degrees in History, Fine Art, or something else that doesn't mean jack squat.

  • Well... have they?

  • July 8, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Obama's "57 states" gaffe

    by D.Vader

    Probably meant to say "47 states" ("and a few more" to make 50). You didn't see the man trying to tell Fox News he was still right after that, though, did we?

  • Hey you're stealing my schtick! =).

  • July 8, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Damn, the quotations didn't work above for some reason

    by D.Vader

    I put spaces between them. Note the above message was a quote from Chhhrriisssmredux, not myself.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST

    45% of Americans have no tax liability because...

    by Sodomy Redux

    The bottom 45% of this country owns about 1% of the wealth. So what's the point? Most Americans do not realize how concentrated money is at the top of this country, and how we've actually made a full recovery from the recession but virtually none of it is going to the average person (since 2008, we've made a full recovery, 85% of the money has gone to corporate profits and 3% has gone to wages). Corporations are making RECORD PROFITS while the market stagnates and what's the solution? Why, cut their taxes of course so they can keep more of the money that they are paying their executives to put in the bank! Tax cuts are like religion with you people.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:24 p.m. CST

    RE: Hey you're stealing my schtick! =).

    by Stalkeye

    That was funny Vades.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    ahthankyou Stalkeye

    by D.Vader

    =D

  • And then looks below them and yells "Stop doing that you assholes!" Yes, the vastly powerful conspiracy of desperate illegal immigrants, downtrodden working poor (there's no more welfare in America, literally...if you don't get a job you get cut off), and inner city destitute and imagines that these powerless people are the reason that things are bad. Well, that and letting the gays marry.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Last one

    by Sodomy Redux

    If you support Sarah Palin for president you are an absolutely irresponsible citizen and should be mocked relentlessly until you smarten the fuck up about what democracy is and how it should work. Super Secret Hint: It's not based on wanting to fuck the person, or their personality, or which "team" they are on.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    @ d.vader:

    by Chris Moody

    Unemployment was very low from 2001-2007 -- even in the post-9/11 recession. Moreover, the GDP increased during that time.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Chrrissssm

    by D.Vader

    Unemployment was very low in the years before Bush came into office too though. I don't see evidence that the Bush tax cuts created jobs.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST

    @ sodomy loving redux ...

    by Chris Moody

    You just made that up. 45% of the nation doesn't pay taxes. They represent everyone from the invalid and indigent to someone who makes less than $45,000 but has enough exemptions. The point wasn't that they don't pay taxes. The poor shouldn't pay...while they are poor. However, they should be motivated to move away from being poor. That way, they can, in turn, contribute to the system that they benefited from too. The point that I was making was to rebuff a claim that anyone wants the poor to "pay more." The poor aren't paying ANY federal taxes. The original statement made it sound like those 45% of the country with zero liability are bearing the burden of some taxes.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    @ccchhhrrriiisssmredux unemployment was very low from 2001-2007

    by Sodomy Redux

    Yeah, and the GDP did increase. Guess what? Only 4% of workers saw a real wage increase - most got enough to stay with inflation and that's it. The national debt blew up and almost doubled. And poverty went from 16% to 19%. So get that shit out of here.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST

    @ sodomy redux :

    by Chris Moody

    Again, you are making that up. Wages increased nearly across the board during that period...even when inflation was nearly stagnant. Yes, the national debt went up (due to two wars and increased national security on a domestic level)....and the Bush Administration deserves scrutiny for it. However, the Obama Administration deserves even MORE scrutiny for increasing the national debt and deficit more than Bush -- even as two wars were winding down and funding was slashed. So, go find a hole (literally) to engage in your self-sodomy. :-)

  • July 8, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    chrism, when Bush left office unemployment was at 8%

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    True Obama hasn't done much too improve it, but how much can he do with the Republicans working against him offering only their tired Voodoo Economics as a solution. Been there. Done that. Obviously that's not the solution because Obama has maintained the same tax levels as Bush and businesses still aren't hiring.

  • 70 percent of the country doesn't have a college degree. 49 percent are dumber than the average person by definition. What should we do with them, these people of average-to-middling intelligence? Tell them to work 2 low-paying jobs so that they have enough money to pay taxes? That's a pretty large segment of the population to condemn to an 1850s industrial revolution lifestyle (that's assuming all these people can even get 2 jobs -- as I'm sure you know right now people have trouble getting one job). I am being 100 percent serious when I ask, what should we do with lower-intelligence people (but not mentally disabled) with no real skills and a high-school education, which is a very very large chunk of the population?

  • July 8, 2011, 2:46 p.m. CST

    @ d.vader:

    by Chris Moody

    Good point. However, there isn't evidence of a massive LOSS of jobs either. Obama complained chronically for TWO YEARS as he ran for president (starting in 2007). He complained about the pathetic status of this nation's economy in 2007. Now, in 2011, things are worse than ever. He can't run on his own record. He can't run with BLAME BUSH rhetoric. He will have to acknowledge his role in the mess (and not the "we're just getting started" nonsense). However, I suspect that the Obama reelection campaign will rely on personal attacks on anyone who "dares" to run against him. Obama has a lot of words to eat. Even with the media in his corner, it might not be enough to overcome voter dissatisfaction and job performance disapproval. Romney is looking better each day. If he put Dr. Condi Rice on the ticket, he would have my vote.

  • So that they would have owned this recession. The one that their policies of low taxes and deregulation created in the first place. Instead they got to blame it all on the next guy.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST

    @ the_choppah...

    by Chris Moody

    Unemployment was at 5.7% when Obama won the election in November 2008 and 6.8% in January 2009 when Obama was inaugurated. His administration promised in March 2009 that unemployment would not his 8% if his experimental Keynesian economic policies were passed. Two years later, most of his economic advisers quit -- because they KNEW that their experiment had failed. If Reaganomics (which led to the prosperity of the late 80s and 90s) were "voodoo" economics, what do you call Barney Frank/Chris Dodd/Barack Obama spending spree? Do you really believe that we could "spend our way out of a recession?" Where are the 500,000 jobs per month that were going to be created by Obama? During the election, someone will call him out for those gaffs.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:53 p.m. CST

    @ sodomy redux :"

    by Chris Moody

    That is why we need to focus first and foremost on JOB CREATION right now.

  • 2 wars aren't "winding down": our troop levels in Afghanistan have gone up substantially (more than doubled), and Iraq troop levels are still half of what they were when we started our invasion and look like they are staying that way. (by the way, we're also warring in Libya now). ccchhhrrriiisssmredux, please source your statement "Wages increased nearly across the board during that period...even when inflation was nearly stagnant. " I got my 4% number from an article I read many years ago at "Foreign Affairs" magazine, it was called A New Deal for Globalization and it was written by a Bush economic adviser and economist. You can look it up on Google. Now your turn: source your statement.

  • She's a narcissistic publicity whore, borderline sociopath, and interested only in advancing her personal interests. That is all anyone needs to know about Sarah Palin. Everything else is just a statement on the stupidity and gullibility of the general populace of this country. If she has helped the rest of the world understand the depths of this country's dangerous idiocy, then she has served one valuable purpose.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Ron Paul is insane, a dangerous ideologue.

    by kevred

    And Rand is just as bad. These guys shouldn't be allowed anywhere near elected office. Crazy idea - how about we elect people who actually value the government, and want to govern, not just burn the whole thing down? Paul's libertarian wonderland sounds peachy for about 60 seconds, then you start realizing it's completely unfeasible. Then you realize it's laughably deranged.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST

    @ sodomy...

    by Chris Moody

    Yes, you made it up. If you want to see REAL statistics, go to the Social Security Administration online and search for the "Average Wage Index." Click on the charts and per year indices.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST

    sodomy makes a good point

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Not everyone in America can be an entrepreneur or a business owner. Somebody has to do the actual labor and work for those businesses. Don't they deserve to be paid a decent wage? I really think that this attitude of slash and burn grab as much as you can economics is eventually going to backfire on our corporate masters. It put us on a path of turning America into a 3rd World country. The only way this can play out is if they bring back slavery. If I were them I would start worrying about a revolution. Sure they got all of us fighting amongst ourselves now and voting against our own best interests, but when the class system starts to crystallize and its clear that their are only the rich few and everyone else people may start to wake up.

  • Can you really hold him responsible for that?

  • July 8, 2011, 3:02 p.m. CST

    ccchhhrrriiisssmredux, "experimental Keynesian policies"?

    by Sodomy Redux

    First of all, Obama did not pass a large enough stimulus because he is an idiot. Secondly, maybe you heard of this "experimental Keynesian policy" called the New Deal, that helped this country through the Depression? What's that you say? It wasn't the New Deal, it was World War 2? Well thanks for proving my argument either way, because World War 2 was A GIGANTIC GOVERNMENT STIMULUS PACKAGE that had us making tanks, planes, and bombs to blow the shit out of Tojo and Hitler. Fuck dude, how can you not see this?

  • July 8, 2011, 3:02 p.m. CST

    and, sodomy redux, my rectum may be "full of shit..."

    by Chris Moody

    ...but at least it isn't filled with the propaganda jizz that shoots out of Liberals who like their followers to bend over and simply take it like a beta man. You can argue against the facts all you like. However, I am increasingly coming to believe that Obama will have to face up to the facts and his broken promises as we approach November 2012.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    The_Choppah, he can hold him responsible for that...

    by Sodomy Redux

    He'll come up with some "well the business community was up in arms about liberal Obama taking all their money, so that's why unemployment was so bad!" Just watch. He's a partisan first, a thinker second.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Daughter!! Wife!! Mother!! Warrior!! Cocksucker!!

    by AsimovLives

  • Just to see the Tea Baggers lose their collective shit. That's going to be a funny day.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Nice one Asi!

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • Somebody has money out there. But it isn't the poor and the working class. We're subsidizing liar's poker. Fuck it, bring on the revolution. Let's start all over from zero. Then let's see all the formerly rich libertarians plead for 'less government'.

  • You see, if the majority of people lose 1% and the guy at the top gains 5000% the AVERAGE will still look positive. This is why the majority of people can have wages rising at inflationary levels, but the guys at the top are doing great, so *gasp* the average is higher than inflation. And this is what actually happened during the Bush Presidency. Jesus christ you're dumb. I mean seriously, you can't even use a chart correctly.

  • And at AICN to keep the posts coming in, they just need to create a Palin or JJ Abrams thread and its like blood in the water.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Now you are getting it, choppah.

    by HoboCode

    ECONOMIC revolution. We need to drag the motherfucking Chicago School Friedmanites kicking and screaming out of the WB and IMF so that actual change can occur. As long they make us slaves to the dogma of free-market capitalism we will never be able to improve anything.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    The_Choppah, it's never been about "less government"

    by Sodomy Redux

    The modern conservative party want big, big government. What they don't want is things that don't personally benefit them. So a big army to show the world who's boss is great. Police to beat up those worthless criminals are great. Laws that invade people's personal lives and make what they disapprove of illegal, and big jails to house those transgressors? Great. There are real small government libertarians out there, but they are not the majority of the conservative party anymore than hippies being the majority of the liberals.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Oh and btw The_Choppah

    by Sodomy Redux

    You were my favorite poster before. Now you're my favoritist.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:29 p.m. CST

    I can't wait for the Sarah Palin's sex tape.

    by AsimovLives

  • July 8, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST

    The most epic trailer...

    by Ken Shaw

    ...for the most mediocre person.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    I'm too old now to keep up with humour

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    Is this being ironic or not? I can't tell if i'm meant to be laughing or not. I am, because the things they are saying are funny, but are they meant to be? The production feels like something from Funny Or Die

  • You know that doesn't make any sense. Who the hell wants to stay poor? If they make enough off the gov't checks to live (which they don't) they have enough to pay for: food, rent, medicine, education. They don't. When I worked at a call center for an insurance company that had a contract to offer Medicare D plans, many times the caller said they had to choose between food and medicine. Being poor is the hardly the lifestyle anyone wants. Reason majority of people are poor is they born in a poor enviorment where the education system is overcrowded and broken, jobs are scarce(even minimum wage jobs are unavailable), medicine and treatment is unaffordable and the healthcare benefits they get just can't keep up with those rising costs. Know why women in poor sectons of the country have higher rates of cancer? They can't afford to get screenings. Same with kids in poor areas being sicker than other parts because parents can't afford to take their kids for preventive visits or when they are sick. Last, theres enough blame to lay on both liberals and conservatives for people still being poor in this country of ours.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    sodomy

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    right back atcha, buddy.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST

    hobocode

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand: the two worst things to happen to the American economy.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Asi, I cant wait for Bristol's sex tape

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    What can I say, I'm a Chubby Chaser

  • July 8, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST

    @ the_choppah:

    by Chris Moody

    No, not really. The ball was in motion. However, I wouldn't expect to hold Bush responsible for Congressional politics either. It is as silly as holding him personally responsible for Hurricane Katrina. But it does make for a good sound bite, right? However, I do hold Obama responsible for HIS PROMISES. For two years, Obama campaigned on turning things around after blaming Bush for all of the problems in the world. Since his election, things have only gotten worse. Mark my words: Voters will hold him accountable. In 2008, Obama won the election with 52.9% of the vote. Between the broken promises and apathy, I seriously doubt that he will gain much more than the 46% approval rating he currently owns. His only hope for reelection is a weak candidate that he can use the media and 527-type groups to attack his opponent. I don't like Sarah Palin. I wouldn't vote for her. However, she isn't nearly the "moron" that some paint her out to be. She is just an opportunist woman.

  • July 8, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    The old holding Bush responsible for Katrina strawman argument.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Nobody's holding him responsible for the storm itself. It's the lackadaisical, borderline-cruel-in-its-indifference federal response Bush is (rightly) held accountable for. Oh, and how about that unqualified asshole he appointed to head the Federal Emergency Management Agency? The Democrats in the state deserve scorn for their response, too, and they get it, especially from the people of Louisiana.

  • Before Katrina, the Army Core of Engineers asked for $10 million dollars in federal money they said was necessary to upkeep the N.O. levees and Bush denied them only giving them $2 million.

  • July 8, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    only in the USA could a woman that dumb get so far

    by FleshMachine

    she's an idiot....GW Bush style. every interview has shown this. They appeal to the gee shucks, god-fearing masses. sad state of affairs.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Taking Citizen Palin seriously...if that's possible.

    by Sithtastic

    Well, I think this TB has been (yet another) example of the only people who look worse than former Governor Palin...that being her detractors. Let's for one moment, try to take her seriously. Palin made a name for herself (rightly or wrongly) as something of a reform mined populist when she took on the oil companies and her social conservatism was really in so far as I'm concerned the only thing conservative about her. And that you see, is the ruse. It's all about the image. Once she had become the VP nominee, all crosshairs were on her and having been brought into a culture where she was told everything down to what to wear, I could imagine that someone who had begun to take her own rebelious image to heart might chaffe at that, so I don't blame her for all the "anti establishment" rhetoric. The problem is though, as the NYT's Ross Douthat observed, that Palin was seduced by her base's narrative to in essence "never change", to virtually embrace her own image of neo knownothingism. That will forever be her eternal flaw. She will never, unlike Reagan before her (also considered something of a schlub who embarrassed his opponents) not spend her time in the wilderness studying to better herself or hone her skills as anything other than a glorified populist celebrity. Some of you on this thread have been smart enough to see through the mock non campaign and bus tour she's currently running for the grassroots road to nowhere that it is. Bully for you. Now if only we can tone down going after he family or perhaps the derogatory comments about Trig, we can move on from the sideshow and have a more serious and well warranted discussion about the coming election year. Rest assured we will not find it watching "The Undeafeated".

  • July 8, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST

    liberalwarrior3

    by zacdilone

    Obama sure as hell thought he could turn it around. Were you even listening when he made all those promises about how the stimulus, Obamacare, and the year-end tax deal with Repubs would have the economy surging forward. Yet here we are...no surge.

  • July 8, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    I thought this was another porn parody? Confused.

    by Cruizer Dave

  • Letting this on aicn is just another peg down the ladder you guys are going. I know Herc is trying for comedy but he just gave her more exposure and reactions than she's qualified for. Seriously this is politics (and barely that), not film. Take it off.

  • July 8, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    I just hope...

    by Evil_Homer45

    Sarah Palin gets stabbed in the neck by me.

  • July 8, 2011, 6:41 p.m. CST

    sodomy redux

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    He said libertarians, not "modern conservatives." Libertarians by definition absolutely want less government, look at Ron Paul, obviously he believes that, to the point of absurdity. Yes, the "modern day conservatives" want big, huge government, but these "conservatives" you speak of are just puppets and stooges to The Empire. The Republican Party is still a hive of neocon assholes who support the Empire. The Tea Party is a bit different, in case you didn't notice it has morphed into a foolish 'reduce government spending' movement. It's been co-opted by the establishment, merged with ignorant fools, and also still retains many original members who are well educated and have good intentions. Sarah Palin is one of the neocons who has co-opted the Tea Party. www.infowars.com

  • July 8, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST

    liberalwarrior3

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Lol, no, he couldn't turn this economy around in 2 years. But what has he done to help it? Absolutely nothing, nada, zip. He continues to help those who destroyed it destroy it even more.

  • July 8, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Come on White people

    by BrooklynBred

    It can't just be us Black folks who hate her. You must be ashamed of her the way we feel about Flava Flav.

  • July 8, 2011, 9 p.m. CST

    palin is a media slut.

    by Charinger

    Seriously, this bitch needs to stop with the books, movies, long attention sucking "family trips". She's an idiot, and all she wants is attention and that's a fact.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:04 p.m. CST

    brooklynbred

    by PatientZer0

    hey dude...don't knock the Real Flava. GOING GOING GONE As a whitey (Actually I'm Irish, so I'm kinda left of white) I despise Palin. She IS a moron, with no qualifications. But she's smokin' hot. I'd thump her bible any day.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Ahahaha!!!

    by Dkev00

    You gotta be a fucking idiot to actually want this woman anywhere near Washington. Fucking sheep.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:44 p.m. CST

    "Harry Knowles...a Life of Exercise"...I laughed out loud.

    by Boober

    What would be impressive is if someone made a counter-comedy like this about Obama.

  • Bush betrayed the core values of his party and I watched in horror as spending spiraled out of control and corporations were gradually given license to eff us over w/out reproach. We've all become rats climbing over one another to get to that last bit of air on a ship that is going down fast. Unfortunately, Obama isn't the answer. Making an expansive government power-grab/shift simply builds higher towers on a Babylon that has a crumbling foundation. F*ck if I know what to do...

  • July 8, 2011, 11:47 p.m. CST

    hiya lordy

    by bellscorners

    okay that really confused the crap out of me. is sarah palin like a saviour or something? is she actually great? i guess it could be, maybe is. she seems like such a twit though. maybe in this day and age a snazzy trailer-like whatnot can make anyone look great... in fact i'm pretty sure about that. can make crap movies look okay in one-minutes snapshots. can do the same thing for politicians. i think i will now rewatch sucker punch... i hate it when i listen to y'all, didn't bother with that movie until tonight, and i absolutely loved it.

  • July 9, 2011, 12:25 a.m. CST

    the_choppah

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I've always liked your opinions on films and TV. After reading all this, I like your politics even more. If I ever feel the wrath of the Banhammer, I shall rise again as... cymbalta4the_choppah!

  • July 9, 2011, 12:29 a.m. CST

    My Favorite Question to Shut Up a Libertarian

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    "Who's Going to Pay for the Libraries?"

  • July 9, 2011, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Sarah Palin thinks the creator of the universe talks to her

    by antonphd

    her and Michelle Bachman are certifiable.

  • July 9, 2011, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Poor People Don't Pay Taxes?

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    This is the Horseshit you always hear from Conservatives. They're talking about Federal Taxes. Poor People pay the same State and Local Taxes everyone else does. Out of the same crappy wages that have been stagnating for how long? And meanwhile, we really are paying taxes out of each check, right? It's not like they let us keep all our money year round. They take it away from us every paycheck. And if we're lucky enough to get all or most of it back when we file, do any of us put it in Savings? No. We spend it. We have no other options. WE'RE the ones driving the economy. When you give poor and middle class people money back they spend it. On Rent. Food. Lottery Tickets. Comics. Action Figures. Crack Cocaine or Crystal Meth. Doesn't Matter. Goes Right Back into the Economy. When you give rich people money back they sit on it, hoping their taxes will go down even further if the Republicans take the White House or the Senate. Obama let them keep the Bush Tax Cuts. WHY AREN'T THEY FUCKING HIRING? You can't say Obama hasn't kept HIS promises on unemployment, and ignore the fact that all that bullshit the GOP fed us about how letting the wealthy keep even more wealth would Create Jobs and Drive the Economy. Exactly the Opposite has Happened. Explain that you Fucking Neo-Cons! And: You've had the House for 190 Days... Where's your JOBS Bill?!!!

  • July 9, 2011, 12:53 a.m. CST

    I expected this TB to be funnier

    by MoffatBabies

    Instead we get a bunch of people defending that sack of shit's empty head, people thinking he actually meant he supports the woman (I blame the widespread aspergers here) and shitty political discussion. Shame.

  • July 9, 2011, 1:15 a.m. CST

    moffatbabies

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    There's nothing funny about Sarah Palin being taken seriously. Or considered newsworthy or whatever. It was kind of amusing in 2008. In 2011, it's just depressing. She's never going to be President. But she's also never going to go away.

  • July 9, 2011, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Hey assholes! I mean hey everybody!

    by RobertoInfinite

  • Listen, Junior. Obama agreed to the costly bailouts that narrowly dodged a Second Great Depression. Look at how far down Bush drove the Dow by the end of his term and look where it is now. My 401k shrank to less than half its peak under Bush. Under Obama it has more than doubled. Bush took eight full years to give us the worst U.S. economy since the Great Depression. Can't Obama get at least three years to dig us out a little further? And "lol." Glad you find this horrible hole Bush put us in (subsequent to the Clinton budget surplus) so fucking funny.

  • July 9, 2011, 3:04 a.m. CST

    You mean he agreed to the costly bailouts

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    that did absolutely nothing to solve any of our problems, only putting us further into debt, sucking trillions of money into an endless black hole created by Wall Street? Where are you getting your information from, CNN? Hey remember when the House of Rep. were against that bill because all the Americans were angry and KNEW they were being swindled? And what did Obama do, he sided with the BANKERS and helped get there EXTORION bill passed. Where's the Wall Street reform? Where's anything? Obama hasn't done jack shit. End the fucking Fed. Huge problem solved right there. No that would be too radical. That wouldn't be what the establishment wants. What the establishment and their puppet stooge Obama want is more of the same. More huge bailouts going to corporations. More corporate wellfare. More disparity of wealth. More factories moved overseas. More more more. It's never fucking enough. The economy WON'T get better because they're calling it a JOBLESS RECOVERY. WOO-HOO!!! Look what Obama's bailout did, it made all the Coporations fatter and richer but created NO JOBS.

  • July 9, 2011, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Bush didn't put us in this hole either.

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Clinton and others before him played a huge roll.

  • July 9, 2011, 3:20 a.m. CST

    I'm not a Conservative, either

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    why's everyone automatically assume you're a Neo-con lover if you dislike Obama? Fuck, can we stop thinking in left versus right? It's getting us nowhere. I used to be a Democrat, but look at the party now. There is no party with the values the Democrats pretend to champion. It's a big fat lie. The healthcare bill was a monstrosity. Both parties are disgusting. On the right you get the Patriot Act. On the left, you have some posers pretending to support the workers, championing a healthcare bill WRITTEN BY HEALTHCARE INSURANCE COMPANIES. Oh look this mentions derivatives. Hey Obama, maybe you should ban them? No? Why not? Is it because Goldman Sachs was the biggest donor to your campaign? "The 1999 repeal of part of Glass-Steagall during a lame duck session of congress, signed into law by Bill Clinton also had a major effect on the crisis. It specifically prohibited regulation of securities based derivatives, swaps to be precise. The lack of regulation of Fannie and Freddie, which neither the Clinton nor Bush White Houses nor years of Republican congresses dealt with properly, along with the ownership society mentality that pervaded the SEC, and originated in the Bush White House, made a mountain of a mess."

  • July 9, 2011, 3:23 a.m. CST

    Clinton and others before him played a huge roll.

    by Hercules

    That's right. Clinton's "huge roll." The fellow who gave us a huge budget surplus even as he was getting his dick sucked by an intern. That's why Obama has to go. Because of Clinton's "roll."

  • July 9, 2011, 3:23 a.m. CST

    www.infowars.com

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

  • July 9, 2011, 4:03 a.m. CST

    Obummer = Bush lite

    by ReportAbuse

    Most conservatives supported Dubya grudgingly at best and are livid that the party "selected" McCain -- the worst possible candidate in some minds -- to go up against Obummer in '08. BHO has a win/win strategy in '12 from his point of view: If things get slightly better he can ask for another four years to finish the job, if things keep getting worse or stagnating (as is most likely) he'll say he needs more time to do what he wants to do. In the meantime he's Bush Lite with three wars going on (despite a minor drawdown in Afghanistan), rule by executive order, reinstating the Patriot Act, the disastrous Health Deform bill and his sole solution to the current debt crisis, print more money! .... Palin is a distraction, a freak sideshow at best and an embarrassment to serious conservatives and the left is as much responsible for her fame as the right. She's the Casey Anthony of politics right now but give it a few months and by the time a REAL candidate emerges (West? Huntsman?) she'll drop off the radar screen like Donald Trump.

  • July 9, 2011, 4:44 a.m. CST

    Great Recession

    by ReportAbuse

    A healthy consumer confidence index is about 90. At this same point after the last three recessions it averaged 87. In June of this year, it fell down to 58.5. Unemployment has climbed for three straight months and is now at 9.2 percent. There's no precedent in data going back to 1948 for such a high rate two years into what economists say is a recovery. .... Story and commentary, "AP notices we've driven out of the ditch and are heading towards a cliff" -- http://minx.cc/?post=318579

  • July 9, 2011, 4:46 a.m. CST

    the disastrous Health Deform bill

    by Hercules

    1) do you mean the health reform bill? how is it disastrous again? Because it prevents health insurance companies from denying you and your grandma coverage due to pre-existing conditions? Or because it moves us closer to a single payer system so insanely popular in Europe, Canada and elsewhere. A system so insanely popular that politicians who call for single-payer repeal are laughed off as crackpots? 2) Bush and his program of deregulation pushed us to the brink of a Great Depression, halfing the worth of the Dow. Under Obama the Dow has fucking doubled. If Obama is "Bush Lite," what does the "Anti-Bush" look like? Herbert Hoover? Blaming Obama for this horrifying economy is like blaming New York firefighters for the collapse of the World Trade Center. To be clear, if the wasteful and crippling bailouts Obama was forced to engage were not engineered, we could be recovering not from the Great Recession (10% unemployed) but from the Greater Depression (75% or more unemployed).

  • July 9, 2011, 5 a.m. CST

    What does it take to vote republican these days?

    by Agent_Snake_Mcready

    A lobotomy? Sarah Palin is the final nail in the coffin of a once respected party. If she gets to captain the ship, expect icebergs. Dead ahead.

  • July 9, 2011, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Disatrous Obumma

    by ReportAbuse

    1) They allegedly can't deny coverage but you still have to PAY for it ... and if you can't afford it (most of us) you're still out of luck since they gutted Medicare to create this thing. I could tell you horror stories my mom has gone through these past couple of years trying to straighten out her insurance and even figure out exactly what she's got covered and what she doesn't. How about physicians now requiring $20-30 cash co-pays up front before they'll even see you? If you're seeing a doc a couple of times a month that adds up if you're on a fixed income. (And no SS COLA increases the past couple of years, another joke.) 2) I thought those Wall Street guys were all evil profiteers that are the source of all our problems and that need to be bled dry. The fact that the market is going up is proof of how evil they are!! (sarc) Anyway, those of us out of work have other priorities besides investing in stock right now with capital we don't have to boost our nonexistent 401k's by helping companies profit by not hiring any more people. (We can't ALL work for Google, Apple and Facebook, unfortunately.)

  • July 9, 2011, 6:15 a.m. CST

    Health Deform

    by ReportAbuse

    And I'm in the midst of a battle with the Mass. Dept of Revenue right now over my health care (!), they keep sending me notices insisting I prove that I have health insurance ... problem is I moved OUT of that state three years ago, but apparently they can neither read a return address nor figure out that given my low income I would have qualified for the public option even if I did still live in that state. So now I'm being threatened with fines over this crap. Imagine this bureaucratic in(s)anity on a nationwide level. If the point of the health bill was to a) make the system so convoluted and awful that the public would welcome a single-payer system and/or b) wait for the older and sicker people to die off in 3-5 years before instituting the new system, to save some money, it is succeeding in its goal.

  • July 9, 2011, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Love Palin comments

    by musically_endowed

    I have a Google news section devoted toPalin for just this reason. Thanks choppah, sodomy and herc for some level headed enlightenment.

  • Quite a standard you liberals are setting for the rest of us to live up to. But back to that Sarah Palin. What an absolute retard. Just like her kid! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJfsLafye4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • July 9, 2011, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Ron Paul can win it and save the world in the process

    by shogunshin

    if Ron Paul gets elected, he will take away the power the international bankers extend upon the republic. he will end the income tax, close the first bank AKA the Federal Reserve Bank, and bring home our brave troops to protect america, not foreign interests. if Pallan wins, she would be exactly the same as Bush, Clinton, Obama, Reagan, etc, war profiteering and the killing of brave american troops. RON PAUL 2012!!!

  • July 9, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST

    UK national health service issues

    by ReportAbuse

    Problems in the peoples' socialist paradise? "If you’re trying to get an idea of what our new health care system will be like, it’s easy. Just look to the formerly great Britain, where socialism reigns supreme. An NHS hospital let 1,200 patients die for no reason in the filthy, blood-splattered hospital where patients were routinely neglected and left in disgusting conditions. The best part? Not a single official has been fired. This isn’t an isolated incident. Another NHS hospital faced a similar scandal when 70 patients died after suffering similar conditions. Another NHS hospital let a premature newborn die… because infants born before 22 weeks are not allowed treatment. NHS also gave free Viagra to a convicted child molestor who was set free. Britain’s socialized health care system is a mess and a danger to public health, yet Democrats for some unknown reason think it’ll work just great here… or they know it won’t work, and don’t care, because Congress gets to opt out. It’s just like British or Canadian politicians who don’t have to suffer through this abysmal health care. They’re able to get private care, so why should they care when the little people have to suffer through such despicable conditions? As long as they keep getting reelected it makes no difference to them. The system’s not about to change, which is clear when you consider that not a single official from this disgusting hospital has had to face repercussions." http://tinyurl.com/yadtky3

  • July 9, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST

    UK socialized healthcare turning to privatization to save system

    by ReportAbuse

    "Spending has doubled from £51billion in 1999 to £101billion today. Chief executive David Nicholson has said that the NHS must look to save £20billion by 2014. But how on earth will it cope with the exploding number of elderly patients and the costly new procedures and treatments coming on to the market? The answer, says the health think tank the King's Fund, is to increase productivity in the NHS. But over the past decade, it fell by almost 4 per cent. Over the same time, it rose by almost 23 per cent in the private sector. So how to push up productivity and get value for the taxpayer? A possible solution came this week from the Hinchingbrooke Hospital in Cambridgeshire. The hospital has debts of £40million. So from next year it will be run not by the NHS, but by one of five private sector organisations. This is the closest the NHS has come to the privatisation of a leading hospital. It is a radical departure 'born of necessity,' says Stephen Dunn, director of strategy for the East of England Health Authority. 'We need the best provider and this is the only way forward.' Only a private company, he says, will get 'real innovation and efficiency' into the process." http://tinyurl.com/4yc9g25

  • July 9, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST

    reportabluse, go fuck yourself with your BS anecdotes

    by uberfreak

    I'm Canadian and people LOVE their gov healthcare. I know many people that would be bankrupt if it wasn't for the amazing treatment they got including my bro who had a heart condition had the best heart specialist in the country correct it after a 24 hour wait. How's that for a counter anecdotal argument fuckface? So SHUT THE FUCK UP because that system works unlike in Amerika where the insurance companies rob you and the amount of money spent on healthcare per capita is the highest in the world. So put that in your pipe and SMOKE IT because you wouldn't know efficiency if it sat on your ugly fucking face.

  • July 9, 2011, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Obama / economy / Clinton

    by levithegreat

    The last SEVERAL presidents have all been partly responsible for the downfall of the economy. Obviously Clinton did a good job and had a surplus - but at the same time he was still filling up the government with Goldman-Sachs employees. Just like all recent presidents - including Obama. This thing will not get fixed until we get all these people out of office because 99% have already been bought and paid for. Democrats and Republicans. Also I am heavily for a health care system like what other nations have BUT without the massive handout Obama's plan gave to prescription drug companies. (For the record I voted for Obama and right now I expect to vote for him again - BUT I am also severely disappointed in him for not standing up for what he believes in or at least what he said he believed in during his campaign).

  • July 9, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Rebuild the Dream

    by levithegreat

    I don't mean to spam (although it seems kinda pertinent to this thread) but also I highly recommend you all check out Rebuild the Dream. New political movement that has started that looks to restore America's economy the only way that will work - by restoring its middle class.

  • July 9, 2011, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Clinton was just another puppet who inheritted a good economy

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    You know it's widely believed that Clinton was borrowing from Social Security to pay off the debt, right? The DOW could go up to 20,000 and it would be a total disaster, because that would mean that the dollar has tanked. Democrats and Republicans no longer matter. They're just puppets to the same powers.

  • July 9, 2011, 9:54 p.m. CST

    And I Absofuckinglutely blame Obama for this economy

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Not for creating it. But for being a spineless puppet who caters to Wall Street and corporations by refusing to do anything about it. The stimulus package was a total joke, it did nothing. Obama is fucking clueless, he probably thought that it would help. I bet he believes the crap he reads off the teleprompter that he didn't write. The economy is in need of serious fucking changes. Big time fucking change. Not some piece of shit stimulus package that just throws more money into the fire. Obama has done jack shit.

  • July 9, 2011, 9:58 p.m. CST

    And so would Sara Palin

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    It will be more of the fucking same if a Republican beats Obama. Heaven forbid! An EVIL REPUBLICAN OH NO, then we'd have to be subjected to more endless bickering between the left and right! which is getting us no where! except being turned into a banana republic.

  • July 9, 2011, 10:02 p.m. CST

    It's really Wall Street and the banks that ruined us

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    I don't know why you blame Bush. The offshoring is a huge reason too, but its the 1.5 quadrillion(1 thousand 500 trillion in essentially gambling debts, made a reality by deregulation by democrats and republican puppets) derivitive bubble they created that has destroyed the entire world economy.

  • July 9, 2011, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Requiem for a Dream

    by ReportAbuse

    ... is probably more accurate for the way this cuntry is headed. (Hmm ... Bachmann and Palin ass to ass? FAP FAP FAP ... never mind, got off track there for a sec)

  • July 9, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Wall Street ruined us

    by ReportAbuse

    Yeah but don't forget Herc's 401 something or other is way way up! They're only the bad guys if a) you don't have money invested in them or 2) the value of your investment goes down. Otherwise they're cool and Obamao is teh Messiah!!1!

  • More than doubled under two years of Obama. MORE THAN DOUBLED. But became 40% of what it was under George Walker Bush, who led the charge to deregulate the mortgage industry.

  • The reports you link to sound to me like conservative tabloid bullshit, and I don't get why you don't think so too. From the Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125029944780633687.html I hear repeatedly FIRST HAND from friends and readers who utilize socialized health care in Canada and overseas that these programs like the NHS are godsends. Sick Americans, even those with health insurance, routinely lose their life savings to hospital bills. Our cousins in Canada, Britain, France, Italy, etc etc etc can live their lives without fear of this. There's a reason even conservatives in these nations are afraid to even broach the idea of repealing systems like the NHS. Again, why are you getting your info from the Big Green Hot Air site instead of the Wall Street Journal?

  • First of all, would you care to disclose the particular fund(s) your plan is invested in, because I'm sure the rest of us would love to share in your good fortune. Your plan might have doubled in the past 2 years but has it reached its previous high, prior to its lows in 2009? And I really don't know why you're so excited, let alone giving Obama all the credit, for the performance of your 401K. It's not like you're taking your profits today. You can't touch that money for, presumably, another few decades, and considering how the government will likely add trillions more to the national debt and run our economy and dollar value into the ground by that time, your portfolio could be worth jack in value and purchasing power. Not to mention ... why do you even think your 401K and the Dow have risen? It's not due to a stable, healthy economy. It's mostly due to profiting from squeezing maximum worker productivity from a shrunken workforce. And taking advantage of illegal or outsourced labor at the expense of a domestic taxpaying (read: socially contributing) workforce. The official unemployment stat is 9.3% right? Hey, that's better than 9.4% right? But you know that the real unemployment rate is much higher. That percentage doesn't include those who have run out of unemployment insurance. The real figure is much closer to double. I suggest you get your head of out the Democratic Party's ass, stop swinging at the Sarah Palin bogeyman, and think independently. Your party (AND the Republicans equally) and President have sold out. It's not even a secret anymore. I used to think it was only right-wingers who voted against their self interests but the Lefties are just as naive, if not more so.

  • But Barack Hussein never even tried to go that route did he? His backdoor dealings with the pharmaceutical, health insurance and medical industries - in the pursuit of a quick deal and political victory for himself - shut down any chance of that. I give Nancy Pelosi more credit for trying to get single-payer when the opportunity was clearly there. Now, he's offering up SS and Medicare cuts without anyone even asking, trying to take away more of the social safety net that taxpayers actually contributed - specifically - to, to the tune of 7.65% of their lives' income.

  • July 10, 2011, 8:14 a.m. CST

    BANNED CHRRIISSSMMM?

    by BSB

    Well, I suppose it IS easier to silence an opposing viewpoint than to debate him, or God forbid, learn something from him. That is, when you have admin rights to do so. Real courageous there.

  • July 10, 2011, 9:32 a.m. CST

    bnb, re: BANNED CHRRIISSSMMM

    by Immortal_Fish

    Hardly surprising. We conservatives have grown accustomed to the whole label and silence schtick. I mean, look at this TB. A perfect example of Alinksy's rules 5, 8 and 9 in action. Jerc's penchant for mentioning the growth of his 401k is a terribly convenient argument since he doesn't have to prove it, which also means none of us can disprove it. Well, he could offer evidence, but he'd be releasing personal info in the internet, which we all know ain't gonna happen. It's a child's way of attempting debate. Not unlike counting jobs created OR saved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJfsLafye4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • July 10, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by Hercules

    First of all, would you care to disclose the particular fund(s) your plan is invested in, because I'm sure the rest of us would love to share in your good fortune. . at its peak it was 235, then it fell to 89 under Bush. now it's back up to 198. Your plan might have doubled in the past 2 years but has it reached its previous high, prior to its lows in 2009? . it has not. And I really don't know why you're so excited, let alone giving Obama all the credit, for the performance of your 401K. . I don't give Obama all the credit for the rise of my 401k (and my other investments outside my 401k by the way) but I also assign him none of the blame for its plummet. It's not like you're taking your profits today. You can't touch that money for, presumably, another few decades, and considering how the government will likely add trillions more to the national debt and run our economy and dollar value into the ground by that time, your portfolio could be worth jack in value and purchasing power. . always a possibility. sure would be nice to have free universal health care if that happened. happily I'm lucky enough to have more in assets outside my 401k. Not to mention ... why do you even think your 401K and the Dow have risen? It's not due to a stable, healthy economy. It's mostly due to profiting from squeezing maximum worker productivity from a shrunken workforce. And taking advantage of illegal or outsourced labor at the expense of a domestic taxpaying (read: socially contributing) workforce. . these are factors that are always at play. but I believe the Dow might have sunk a lot lower without the AIG and other bailouts. And it would not have recovered this quickly. The official unemployment stat is 9.3% right? Hey, that's better than 9.4% right? But you know that the real unemployment rate is much higher. That percentage doesn't include those who have run out of unemployment insurance. The real figure is much closer to double. . but, as I say, without the decisive actions taken by the Obama administration, the unemployment rate could have been much worse. It was nearly 25% during the Great Depression. I shudder to think where we'd be (75% unemployment? 85%?) had we fallen into a Greater Depression. I suggest you get your head of out the Democratic Party's ass . I'm a registered Republican. My head is up no one's ass, but thanks for that speculation. , stop swinging at the Sarah Palin bogeyman, and think independently. Your party (AND the Republicans equally) and President have sold out. It's not even a secret anymore. . Democrats love love LOOOOOOOVE Sarah Palin. She put a Democrat in the White House. I used to think it was only right-wingers who voted against their self interests but the Lefties are just as naive, if not more so. . My net worth collapsed to less than half its value under Bush. My net worth has more than doubled under Obama. I imagine you and I will have to agree to disagree on what's in my best interest.

  • July 10, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Herc pulls out the ol' Clinton surplus myth

    by Darth_Inedible

    National debt rose every year Clinton was in office Herc. Borrowing money from SS, military retirement funds etc to make it look like you're running a surplus isn't the same as actually running one.

  • July 10, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Free American heathcare for all of Mexico!

    by Darth_Inedible

    Sure I'll happily see my parents care suffer to support the squalid peasant masses that Mexico, the world's 13th largest economy, exports to our country as a political safety valve release. Notice how no 1st world country with a functional national healthcare systems let nearly as many poor illiterate immigrants as we do each year? Funny how that works...

  • ...even John Stewart of all people was defending her after all the libtards that went through all her emails found NOTHING they can use against her. An accomplished woman with actual experience, accomplishments, and who looks great, scares the little libtards to death. And unlike the retard they voted in the White House, I bet Palin knows what year it is, and how old her children are. Libtards are funny. :)

  • July 11, 2011, 4:48 a.m. CST

    The NHS

    by Lost Jarv

    Has its problems. This is a fact. However, there was a study done and it's something like 3 times better value for money than the American insurance based model. Admin costs in America are higher than the UK, and clinical costs exponentially so. Any British person would take the NHS, warts and all, 100 times out of 100 compared to the fucking inept, expensive and downright murderous American Insurance-based system. If there's one thing to smack Obama with, it should be this one- the solution he's done is the absolute worst one he could have.

  • July 11, 2011, 10:09 a.m. CST

    HERC

    by BSB

    I'll just have to take your word about your net worth collapsing by more than half under Bush. It depends on when you made your investments. I'll assume real estate is a major part of your net worth. Regardless, I'd say people who purchased their investments in the early 2000s made out a lot better than those acquired in the mid-2000s. Count yourself lucky if you're in the black. Most Americans are in the red, in both their long term retirement plans and in real estate. I don't know the exact percentage but I do know a large number of people are under water in their property values. Obama was not the architect of the massive Wall St. bailout. If you want to direct credit where due, that will be Henry Paulson. Obama simply capitulated to the bankers for their financial advice. Do you really think the community organizer from Chicago was brilliant enough to stave off a greater recession? Wall St. had a gun to the country's head – cover their losses or else. I really don't believe that those debt obligations had to be covered 100 cents on the dollar at the taxpayers' expense. And much of that foreign, too. As far as I know, a complete accounting as to the P&L of the bailout is still unknown. It was a massive transfer of wealth from the taxpayers to Wall St. And Obama has done nothing to mitigate the system to prevent another similar "crisis". The banks have consolidated into even bigger "too big to fail" entities. Democrats love Sarah Palin? Why would anyone want to take Democrats seriously then? That's not exactly something to be proud of, as the country should have a desire to find the most qualified leaders, not settle on simply the lesser of evils. That's one of many things plaguing this country - a dearth of competent political leaders, and too many clowns occupying government.

  • July 11, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST

    You all need to STFU and read The Shock Doctrine.

    by HoboCode

    Stop being fucking sheep.

  • Stop being fucking sheep.