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BATMAN: YEAR ONE animated movie trailer is the best comic thing I've seen this year!
Hey folks, Harry here... I'm a huge fan of the DC Animated Features that have been going straight to DVD & Blu Ray. My favorite is NEW FRONTIERS, which is just fantastic, but I feel that BATMAN: YEAR ONE is going to just flat out be the best. The look and style, the story (at least as I know it) resonating with me. I'm just incredibly fired up for this. The behind the scenes teaser on the GREEN LANTERN EMERALD KNIGHTS blu earlier this year was an aggravating tease... Now that I see it animated. Wow. Can Not Friggin Wait!
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I love these films. I feel like the DC Universe can't do better than their animated run -- and they don't need to, because they are genuinely the best superhero films going.
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The animation looks retro and i kinda dig that...
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get any royalties for this? I see some comic panel and costume designs based on his work, but it looks kind of manga- esque kind of like D&D the animated series. His art on Year one is my favorite Batman. This looks really promising.
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i sure hope they show his moms pearls falling to the ground, haven't seen THAT nearly enough
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July 7, 2011, 9:23 p.m. CST
I see this is already being overrated as much as Dark Knight and yes the Batman character himself.
by The Krypton Kid
Don't get me wrong, Batman is one of the five greatest and most importan superheroes ever: 1. Superman 2. Spider-Man 3. Batman 4. Wonder Woman 5. Captain America But this idea that Batman is a master of every martial art and is smarter than every one in the DC Universe is a bit ridiculous. The character should be a driven vigilante, haunted by the murder of his parents, and who captures through brilliance, keen detective skills, and impressive fighting prowess. But don't make the man omni-freaking-potent. Regarding Dark Knight, outside of Ledger's performance, the film is dreadfully overrated. Regarding thius Year One animated, nothing about it suggests it will be better than New Frontier, but it does look good and I will purchase it. And for kicks, regarding The Dark Knight Returns, the book is trash and so is Frank Miller.
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I'm there.
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Wonder Woman and Captain America are on your list why?
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Looks okay, but a lot of the plot points from Year One were essentially incorporated into Batman Begins anyway. Hell, whoever's doing the voice for Batman in this sounds slightly like Christian Bale.
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Nice art though, looks like the book.
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The last I saw was the World War Hulk. That was a while ago.
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My biggest complaint about these otherwise pretty stellar DTV animated tales is that they're way too short to accommodate things properly. If you're going straight to dvd anyways, why not take a little more time to tell the tale better, right? Looking forward to this, though. Should dovetail nicely with the Chris Nolan year one movies, which I'm sure many of us will be seeing again when THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is released.
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I've never been into these cartoon versions of the heroes. The animation is just too limited, and the acting too stilted. It's tepid drama at best. So, in an effort to learn more about those who DO like these cute little animated stories, I'd like you fans to take my little survey: 1. How horribly bored are you? On a scale of 1 to 10, please rate your boredom level, with 10 being Catatonic State, Much Drooling. 2. How willing are you to settle for crap, just to ease the hell of your meaningless existence? Again, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being Learning to Tie a Noose. 3. Which body part is most often in one of your socks? A. Your Foot; B. Your Penis 4. Do you call your father "Uncle/Daddy"? If so, does your "sister" look very afraid of Uncle/Daddy? Thank you for your indulgence. Those who answer receive a free pretend-prize of their choosing. You can pretend you won your own yacht, theme park, or just a blowjob from your grandmother. It's all up to you!
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July 7, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST
GUARANTEE!!! CHOP-CHOP!!! I CLEAN LAUNDRY!!! GUARANTEE!!! ME LOVE YOU LONG TIME!!! GUARANTEE!!!
by Mr Soze
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already did an amazing "Year One"-style story. I don't think this will be better than that but...looks good.
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Looks cheap. When I heard they were making this I was hoping they could match the animation of the comic.
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The animation looks much more anime influenced than I would hope. Year One is my favorite Batman story, and that's in no small part due to Mazzucchelli's work. I wouldve hoped this would at least have some small traces of his style.
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The voice actor just doesn't sound right. Kevin Conroy always and forever!
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Even the ones everyone things are super fantastic just look cheap.
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Conroy IS Batman's voice for these animated movies. Nevertheless, will see this!
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Influence and historical significance.
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That just phenomenal actor from The OC and Southland. (sarcasm, obviously).
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they are the definitive realistic take on the character.
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Marvel did Thor: Tales of Asgard. It was ok.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-egilJ9dEI
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July 7, 2011, 10 p.m. CST
Too bad it doesn't resemble the comic art, but I'll see it anyway
by MooseMalloy
Plus Lauren Montgomery is a talented geek hottie.
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damn, great adaptation...
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Always wondered that. About time someone told it.
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July 7, 2011, 10:15 p.m. CST
BATMAN is sooo yesterday. APAMA is the superhero of today.
by Daniel_S_Duvall
www.herotomorrow.com
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July 7, 2011, 10:16 p.m. CST
If I want to watch a brilliant animated version of Batman's early years...
by OutsideChance
...I can pop open my copy of "Mask of the Phantasm." And, as others have mentioned, not having the animation look more like Mazzuchelli's art is just a waste. Let me know when DC gets Clint Eastwood to voice an aging Bruce for DKR and maybe I'll be excited.
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So serious question, I'm definitely not a hater, but why bother with these? And by these, I mean these DC animated movies that are direct adaptations of previous comic stories. Live action I get, because its cool to see these characters in, well, live action, with a movie like Watchmen being the epitome of that. But in the case of these animated movies, its just an artist rendering of another artists drawing. In this case I already own Batman: Year One, what would be the point of owning a cartoon directly adapted of that story. Same thing with All-Star Superman. <br> Now with something like Justice League Unlimited or Batman Mask of the Phantasm, I get, because these were separate self contained ongoing continuities from one series/season to the other. But something like All-Star Superman, or Batman: Year One, it's just a one off, not part of a larger story, and scene for scene, line for line adapted from another hand drawn source. To each his own, but could someone please explain the appeal of something like this
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July 7, 2011, 10:26 p.m. CST
Why not mimic art-design of Comic? Anime does it fine. Fluid, but Boring to look at.
by SirGaryColeman
I think Robert Rodriguez is brilliant for being the only one to do something so obvious: use the art from the source as much as possible. Japan figured this out years ago. Granted, their anime tv shows don't have a ton of frame-by-frame, but I much prefer the cool look of the show (of the good anime) vs the fluid, but boring look of american cartoons. the US is slowly figuring it out, but I'm still waiting for them to copy the look of the comics, which look stellar.
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pretty much ALL of the Batman origin tropes that you are familiar with crystallized here. you WILL see the pearls and popcorn on the spotlit ground. liked the origin stories from Mask of the Phantasm and Batman Begins? me too. They were largely drawn from Year One. Year One was first. Year One was best. Year One created a dynasty of Batman stories that has endured for 25 years. Get on the trolley folks, this is where it's at.
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i sure hope they show his moms pearls falling to the ground, haven't seen THAT nearly enough
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Something feels off. Maybe it's the animation or possible the voice choice on Bats. I want this to be as compelling as the comic, but not sold yet.
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I'll be surprised. Also, needs to have Kevin Conroy.
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There were 6 of them. The first 3 were m'eh. The last 3 were brilliant, but all too short! Here's an idea. Hire those same guys who made those shorts below and make full length movies/ series out of them! 'Working through the pain' was the best one out of all of them! The final one with Deadshot was a pretty cool style as well as the Scarecrow one!
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Regardless of how this trailer makes you feel, there is a reason that the original story is being made into a movie...it ROCKS. 1. Read Miller's Dark Knight Returns (again) it ages pretty well 2. Read his Batman: Year One--might be his best work ever, its long before he went crazy and directed The Spirit, etc... 3. Alan Moore's Swamp Thing, its almost a cliche now, but that's because it was so fucking AWESOME!! 4. Best for last, Gaiman's Dream run. This is on some level a True Story, much like the platonic ideals echo their shadows onto the cave walls we call "reality"
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These recent DC animations movie just aren't doing it for me visually. The animation looks to "clean" for me. Get the grit back in there that Batman The Animated Series captured so well. Computer animation will never look as good as hand painted cells. http://johnny-flores.blogspot.com/2011/04/whats-in-belt.html
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July 7, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST
BOOOO NOT ANOTHER ORIGIN STORY WE ALREADY KNOW BATMAN'S ORIGIN BLAHBLAHBLAH (nt)
by Triple_J_72
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July 7, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST
Regarding Krypton Kid, I see he's still an idiot, and still spouting off his stupid opinion like it's fact.
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
Wonder Woman in your lame Top 5? LOLOL, get a clue, pal.
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We all know the origin. We watch a Batman film to see Batman, not Bruce as a child etc. Give me an Arkham Asylum film based on the comics and video game and that would be an instant hit.
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visual style looks heavily influenced by SPAWN animated series
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helll yeah
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..so few women do nowadays. It's a lost art." Such a Frank Miller line! I hope it's in the movie.
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July 8, 2011, 12:07 a.m. CST
So that trailer was better than the Thor movie, eh
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
The only animated batman movie I've seen is Under the Red Hood. That was pretty badass. I was surprised how great the animation was. Looks like this movie was made by different people haha.
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Known as "Full Circle" in the comics (at least in TPB form).
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1. How horribly bored are you? On a scale of 1 to 10, please rate your boredom level, with 10 being Catatonic State, Much Drooling. A: I'M Bored munchin yer moms stank hole.....much drool!!! 2. How willing are you to settle for crap, just to ease the hell of your meaningless existence? Again, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being Learning to Tie a Noose. A: As meaningless as yours, obviously you have time time to dull the pain by posting stupid polls and being a ri-tard. 3. Which body part is most often in one of your socks? A. Your Foot; B. Your Penis A: C, none of the above: yer mom uses my sock to spit when she's done. Biatch! 4. Do you call your father "Uncle/Daddy"? If so, does your "sister" look very afraid of Uncle/Daddy? A: There's always one question on a test that makes no sense (two train's leave different cities going 200 miles per hour etc) I'm guessing you were suffering from anal trauma (Uncle/daddy???) while writing that one. Thank you for your indulgence. Those who answer receive a free pretend-prize of their choosing. You can pretend you won your own yacht, theme park, or just a blowjob from your grandmother. It's all up to you! A: These are my choices?!? How about I pretend your mom will start douching, your dad will stop fucking yer ass (see I care) or that We all win and never have to read any more of your "witty" posts.
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July 8, 2011, 12:49 a.m. CST
Cooke's New Frontier comics are brilliant/fantastic. The toon
by Dennis_Moore
was mediocre, which was surprising given how superb BTAS, JL/JLU, and the rest of the DCAU was. The best of these direct to discs so far has been Batman/Superman Apocalypse.
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Or perish.
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is still an obnoxious, mouth-breathing douchebag and probably still a racist, because in most cases, once an inbred racist ALWAYS AN INBRED RACIST. Wonder Woman's influence and historical impact in the comic book medium is undeniable. Get a clue, you scum sucking piece of filth.
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But I want the Dark Knight Returns in animated form, not this comparatively bland prequel.
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but it looks pretty good otherwise. Year One wasn't a very large comic, so it should translate nicely.
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July 8, 2011, 1:45 a.m. CST
And Krypton Kid's post was a great parody of a basement dwelling fanboy
by Mattman
Wonder Woman and Captain America among the top five greatest superheroes of all time? Haha! Dark Knight overrated? Hahaha! Dark Knight Returns is trash? Hahahahaha! Good stuff. Thanks for the laughs.
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July 8, 2011, 2:31 a.m. CST
Mattman, while I disagree with a lot that Krypton Kid said
by Continentalop
I think you could argue that Wonder Woman and Captain America are in the top 5 - well, at least Wonder Woman (Cap is more like top 10). Maybe she hasn't had the best stories in the modern era, but she is the most famous and important female superhero, who has existed in print since the Golden Age. And she is the only female character to consistently have her own comic in publication without being a rip-off of a male hero (Mary Marvel, Batgirl, Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, etc.) She is also one of the few superheroes who was successfully adapted to another medium (television) and is one of the few who you can call iconic (mostly due to Linda Carter and the TV series, I admit). I got no problem with Wonder Woman coming in at number 4 (I say Hulk is number 5).
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Was his version of Catwoman. I know it is sacrilege to criticize anything Miller did in the 80s, but his version of Selina Kyle just seemed silly and immature and ridiculous IMO. Something about a streetwalker who is also trained in karate and then becomes a skilled costumed cat burglar overnight doesn't seem very congruent.
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Mask of the Phantom > The Dark Knight
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July 8, 2011, 2:55 a.m. CST
mattman have proved himself a parody of a fanboy who will swallow anything Warner Bros. feeds him
by The Krypton Kid
Guess what, genius, The Dark Knight Returns, which provided Miller's perverse, cynical portrayal of Superman, is in the same continuity of All-Star Batman and Robin and The Dark Knight Strikes Again, and we all know what fine works of literature those items were. The Dark Knight isn't a bad film, but it's supremely overrated. Wonder Woman is a legit icon, as is Cap. Only 1) Superman 2) Spider-Man and 3) Batman are more iconic.
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July 8, 2011, 2:58 a.m. CST
continentalop, I can see Hulk in the top five rather than Cap, but it's close
by The Krypton Kid
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...some of it is just sad.
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July 8, 2011, 3:08 a.m. CST
Kid, I think that number 5 spot has a lot of contenders
by Continentalop
But personally I think Hulk takes it due not only how popularity and recognizable he is, but also how unique he is (or was), his impact, and his influence on later comic book characters and characterization (one of the first "tragic" and reluctant heroes). But to round out my top 10, I would say the final five (in no particular order) are Captain America, Captain Marvel (Billy Batson), Plastic Man, Flash (Barry Allen), and Robin, with the New X-Men as honorable mention.
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Current marvel project for animation...and the show is pretty kick ass...whether you are 12 or 41.
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But somethings missing, perhaps its the voice acting or the art direction. Year one is a high point in Miller's career, I just hope they do it justice.
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July 8, 2011, 4:02 a.m. CST
Dang, I forgot Robin. I can see an argument for either Cap, Hulk, or Robin in the No. 5 spot. Flash or GL at No. 6
by The Krypton Kid
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July 8, 2011, 4:04 a.m. CST
Captain Marvel at either 7 or 8. Of course, Wolverine has to round out the Top 10. I'm not a fan, but just how it is.
by The Krypton Kid
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It's Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and Hulk some order. Now, number 5 is where it gets interesting. I would just say X-Men in general, but if I had to pick a 5th, probably Wonder Women. Green Lantern, Flash, Thor, etc. are a step below in terms of popularity, mass appeal, etc.
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Utterly disgusting what they have done to the original comic. So many cringe-inducing versions of Mazzuchelli's panels... like the bat coming through the window. Urgh. Sure, let's show the bat approaching slooooowly, we don't want to surprise anybody.
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July 8, 2011, 5:48 a.m. CST
Bombay, I can see the X-Men ranked together as a group, but they're the only super-team that can be, well maybe the JSA also.
by The Krypton Kid
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July 8, 2011, 6:40 a.m. CST
The DC universe is HUGE, consisting of hundreds of characters.....
by Father
...and yet warner brothers choses to make animated movies based on the characters who are only going to be overexposed in movies, videogames and TV cartoons anyway (like batman for example). There are so many underexposed characters who could have their own animated movie- Lobo, static shock, slam bradley, zatana, black lightning, sgt rock, captain marvel........ the list goes on and on. These dc universe animated movies arent bad- but i think they could be way better if they were used as a way to tell cinematic stories about characters we arent familliar with, rather than act as a cash in for what ever character has a movie out/ coming out. Just a thought.
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Total burn.
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Speaking of characters that could probably be made into a DCAU movie, I'm still hoping for one based on the Question. I mean, the actual Question--the Denys/Cowan version--would be nice, but I'd settle for the general kickass JLU version too. Using the Question and other less known characters would be a great way to exploit really solid stories, or simply tell fresh ones without the burden of fulfilling the expectations of the usual superhero tropes. But then again, I'm sure telling good stories isn't as profitable as making quick adaptations of famous comic characters. I'm sure Superman/Batman was profitable, but come on. That was just terrible on all sorts of levels.
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July 8, 2011, 7:45 a.m. CST
Father, the problem is that when they tried to tackle a character other than Batman...
by hank henshaw
it didn't sell well at all. The Wonder Woman animated movie, is one of the best animated features they've done so far, and it's also the lowest selling. Green Lantern: First Flight wasn't very good, but it also came up short of expectations sales-wise. So, for them it is: Batman, Batman, Batman, maybe Superman, more Batman, maybe a movie with the Justice League (that showcases the Caped Crusader, of course) , and more Batman.
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This movie will probably be okay. Just that, Just like the movie version of ALL-STAR SUPERMAN (which is one of my favorite comics ever) was just okay. Animated superhero shit is cool when it is influenced/inspired by the comic (BTAS, STAS, JL/JLU) not when it's a direct adaptation. There's no point. COMICS ARE COOL ENOUGH ON THEIR OWN. The animation for this Year One movie is nowhere near as good as the illustrations for the Year One comic much like the animation for All-Star was fucking shit compared to Frank Quitely's (God) illustrations for Grant Morrison's brilliant comic script. Morrison's work (which I completely love btw) did not translate that well to an animated film because comics and cartoon movies are just different. COMICS ARE COOL ENOUGH ON THEIR OWN.
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I want to make sure I keep good notes. I didn't realize we had all come to a consensus on who the most influential comic book characters are. I'm not surprised since it is well known how open minded the talkback forums are.
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Will Gordon have a beer and cheat on his wife?
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.......damn times are they gonna keep telling Batman's origin? I think every kid in America knows it by heart.
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I think there is room in the market for a hard-R Lobo movie. If they want balls-out it would be a moderate mainstream hit with a massive, long-term cult following. But you know they'd soften it up and focus almost entirely on his pet space dolphins.
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and with animation you can do anything but WB continues its trend of bad none styled bland crap. 2D Animation should be the place for our comic heros to live but until they spend some money on them they will not make money.
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I really wish DC would do something with their Wildstorm ownership in the DVD realm. An Authority movie would kick ass.
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I bet they could release an animated version of The Dark knight Returns theatrically and make some good money.....of course, when you fuck witht he holy grail of source material nobody will ever be satisfied with the results - it will be Watchmen all over again. Plus, I doubt WB would have the balls to include some of the harder sequences (Joker killing the studio audience, breaking his own neck etc.) So we'll probably end up with a watered down version anyway......
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1)Superman 2)Batman 3(Spider-Man 4)X-men (the team) 5)Watchmen My list is based on the effect the characters had on the industry as a whole.
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Who says anything about these being "the official" list? We are just listing who we think would be in top 10 comic book superhero characters of all time. It's just that most of the characters and their rankings are pretty obvious and self-explanatory. You got an alternate choice, feel free to present it. Just be prepared to back it up...
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Because I don't think he had as big of impact and influence on comics as Flash II, who basically started DC's Silver Age. Wolverine is probably in the top 10, but I sometimes think he isn't as influential as he is just popular.
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I agree with your top three (and in that order), but I disagree with X-Men at 4 (I think they make the top 10 though, especially if you add Wolverine to them) and Watchmen (I think the comic had a huge influence on the industry in the 80's, I don't really think the characters did IMHO).
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Remember how the animated AllStar flick was supposed to be awesome?
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is in good fun, right? Unclench those cheeks a little and lighten up.
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I'm not a huge fan of the FF and I'm not all that knowledgeable on early-DC comics, but it seems to me they opened up a pretty big cosmic world to the Marvel U...or am I missing something?
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...is the best comic thing I've seen this year.
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IM SICK OF THE FUCKING ORIGIN STORIES. WE GET IT.
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Don't get me wrong; the trailer looks good -- but every superhero franchise these days starts by re-working the origin story of the comic; then the sequels either flashback to the origin or re-work the origin again with a prequel... And when we're hoping to get a fresh, new adventure in the sequel we're saddled instead with origin stories of sidekicks and villains. It's wearing thin.
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July 8, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST
Sorry icemonkey, didn't recognize it as just being good fun
by Continentalop
Sincerely thought it was someone bitching and whining.
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Release this in theatres, jerks.
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The FF had a huge impact. But are they in the top 10? That is debatable (especially if you not only count impact but also popularity and their place in popular culture - Captain Marvel was mentioned in a Beatles song, was the FF?).
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It can be separated into pop culture or iconic within the industry itself which are 2 different things.
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Are also Frank Miller's best works...
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For a guy who has no superpowers, (yeah, i know that he has enhanced abilities via super soldier serum, but it's not as if he can leap tall buildings, or shoot lasers out his eyes.His powers derive from the pennacle of Human perfection.) he holds his own and not to mention he lead "Earth's Mightiest Heroes". Did I also mention that he is no government puppet, instead he follows the principles of Life, Liberty and..."Final, Justice"!!* *Marvel Vs Capcom 3 Hopefully the Film will be a huge hit, and if not it's sure to do much better than Snot Lantern (which should be easy.)
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July 8, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST
stalkeye, the question for me isn't "who is your favorite"
by Continentalop
But which character has had the biggest impact, influence and is the most well known & recognizable. My top 5 favorite movie list is very different from my list of top 5 most important movies (same with my list for football players or rock bands). But I say Cap probably just misses the top 5 and comes in at number 6.
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That's a tough list to fill. I would say my top 4 are 1) Dr. Doom, 2) Joker, 3) Lex Luthor, and 4) Galactus. Beyond that I probably have Magneto, Bizarro, Catwoman and maybe Red Skull on my list.
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Not in particular order and it pays to have known a friend who worked in a Comicbook outlet at the time. (vintage issues are expensive, dammit.) 5.Adam Warlock: Why you ask? Two Words: Jim Starlin!! 4.Deathlok: no, not that disappointing series from the 90's, but the original Badass who preceded both Robocop and Terminator. 3.OMAC: The orignal Jack Kirby character not that andriod bullshit. The concept of One Man Army Corps was a bit ahead of it's time and provided a imaginative glimpse of the World that's coming. (Glad WB gave him an appearance in one of the BATB episodes.) 2.(Tie) Captain Marvel: Both what's cooler than a child who has the powers of Six gods? And the Matador Cape is kinda nice. While the other Cap, thanks to Starlin had a successful run and the first to have a Graphic Novel which was very depressing mind you. Great story however. And as for last but not least Black Panther!! King Kirby had stated why there were no Black people being represented in comics, so he came up with the concept of a Wakandan Prince whose scientific expertise rivaled even that of Reed Richards and his superhuman cababilities/reflexes hold up well against Captain America. (Panther was revolutionary as no other comic company back then had the balls to create a non stereotypical Black superhero during the turbulent 60's.) Groundbreaking.
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The only one who maybe shouldn't be on your list is the original Captain Marvel. He might not be obscure now, but he sure as hell wasn't from the 40's to the 60's (he sold more than Superman and Batman, and he was name checked in a Beatles song). Kind of sad though how he is so forgotten nowadays...
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And I'm not saying they should have gotten Kevin Conroy...I understand them wanting to use different actors and going for a "younger" voice....but this guy sounds TERRIBLE. Rest of the cast sounds good though....why did they ruin it by casting this craptacular actor for Bats???
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I know Bruce was younger here, but they could have found a deeper voice. Not the gargling with sand voice Bale uses, but even the Kevin Conroy voice from the original Animated series (well, not original, but you know what I mean) wouold have been good. But I will still be watching. Here's hoping it follows the Comic, and doesn't try to tie in with Batman begins too much.
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This is what drives him. He relives it every night in his dreams, and it is on his mind constantly. It defines him. And what about new viewers who don't know the story? It seems like some people just like to bitch. Much the same way Frank Castle wakes from dreaming about his family being gunned down and renews his personal war each day, Batman uses their death as his reason for his war against crime. To NOT mention it would be something to bitch about.
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July 8, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST
This IS the one where Det. Gordon has a beer and CHEETS on his wife!
by Sith Witch
multiple times...
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Although I consider Superman the Godfather of all Comicdom, I always favored SHAZAM/Capn M over Supes the concept to me is brilliant and moreso than an Alien survivor from an exploding planet. But in no way would that be downplaying the man of steel. I read how SHAZAM was outselling Superman Comics back in the 50s until DC filed some infringment lawsuit (Citing Simularities between Captain Marvel and Superman.) as a result Fawcett folded and sold the rights/character to DC Comics. How fucking coniving of them.LOL Outside of Comics, Cap is seldom seen or heard from (the vintage albiet cheesy live action shows from the 70's may ring a bell to some.) but I'm grateful to DCAU for his appearances in Justice League Unlimited, Batman BATB and the Return of Black Adam (although the animated feature was way too short.) Hopefully, if Snyder/Nolan's upcoming Man of Steel is successful, it may usher in more DC based films and SHAZAM may be in the running.
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July 8, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST
RE: "he sold more than Superman and Batman, and he was name checked in a Beatles song"
by Stalkeye
Cool, Of course you know that McCarthney/Wings made a song Sir Paul called "Magneto and Titanium Man". It was his ode to Jack Kirby as he was a huge fan of his. Now THAT's cool news.
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If Warlock makes your list because of Jim Starlin...how about Dreadstar? I loved Cosmic Odyssey.
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..it's one of those examples of once you have climed the Mountain top, there's nowhere to go but down. In other words, Warlock in comparison to Dreadstar is unmatched due to bizarre but facinating plots, scenarios and characters. The Magus Saga of course stands out and within that pivot story arc you witnessed Adam, Gamora and maybe Pip taking down 1,000 Black Knights, Adam mourning the loss of The Matriarch, A unholy alliance with Thanos and Pip was a amusing sidekick. Star Theif was precedent of the shit many have read in Heavy Metal Magazine IMO. It once again was some strange stuff. A patient devoid of the five senses uses his Newfound "capabilities" to remove the stars and in turn causing mass hysteria on Earth only to have some orderly save the day. Great run and a home run at that. is it me, or does Dreadstar's Willow look to simular to a certain Counter Intellegence Red haired Female within a Anti Terrorist strike force? Zygy Darklock didnt really do it for me either. Yes, Cosmic Odessey was the bitch tits! Great limited series.
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Dr. Doom, Lex Luthor, Joker, Galactus, Magneto, Green Goblin, Red Skull, then it gets murky Kingpin, Catwoman, Bizarro, Penguin, Doc Octopus, Solomon Grundy, the Sentinels followed by , Sinestro, Riddler, Twoface, Mysterio, Kraven, Sandman...any number of Spiderman villains. I don't know if I would keep the list in the same order if I was asked tomorrow, but many of the names would still be there. My personal favorites are Magneto, Green goblin (before they brought him back), the Sentinels, Bizarro, Joker, Deathstroke the terminator and Galactus.
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July 8, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST
Krypton Kid is in my top 5 Biggest AICN Losers list.
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
Watch as his head explodes and what rains down is lame 2nd grade level insults. You've proved time and time again that you're clueless about all subjects, so go back to crying in your corner.
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Actually I really liked Syzygy Darklock from the Price...but we can disagree. I enjoyed Dreadstar until they dropped the sword. I may have to read more Warlock stories from the 70's. And yes...Willow may have been pulling double duty fighting Cobra now that you mention it.
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Nice to see some Penguin love. If I had to list my personal favorites (characters I fell in love with as a child), I would say Dr. Doom, Galactus, Ultron, Kang, Mr. Mind, the Blob, Juggernaut, Absorbing Man, Black Adam, Super-Skrull, Gorilla Grodd and Shapeshifter from the Elementals.
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I always dug songs and movies that name checked superheroes, especially obscure ones. That's why as much as I think Sunshine Superman is cool with its Superman and GL reference, Magneto and the Titanium Man is way cooler. I also loved in THE LAST DETAIL when Jack Nicholson explains to Randy Quad who the original Human Torch was.
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July 8, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST
Scatman, why even care about Batman pre Detectives #38...
by Continentalop
...when you can just read the Shadow or the Spider, two characters whose stories Kane and Finger were just ripping off from until they introduced Robin. Historical context is everything...
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July 8, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST
sierratangofoxtrotuniform, you're easily the biggest degenerate on AICN, so I sure as hell wouldn't to be on your "WINNER" list, scumbag.
by The Krypton Kid
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July 8, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST
sierratangofoxtrotuniform, you're easily the biggest degenerate on AICN, so I sure as hell wouldn't want to be on your "WINNER" list, scumbag.
by The Krypton Kid
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6) Star Brand. The New Universe pretty much sucked except for Star Brand, which was interesting during both Shooter and Byrne's runs, but for different reasons. I 5) Huntress. The Helena Wayne, not Helena Bertinelli version. While normally I hate legacy characters, back when DC had an Earth 1 & 2 it was interesting to see what happened to Bats and Catwoman, and to see what an offspring of theirs might be like. Of course, the damn Birds of Prey show fucked her up. 4) Ka-Zar. Take one Tarzan clone from the pulp era, put him in the Marvel Age and set him in the Savage Land where dinosaurs and monsters dwell. Awesome. 3) Captain Marvel IV (Monica Rambeau). One of the most interesting new characters in the 80s, screwed over because only creator Roger Stern knew how to use her. He took one of the most iconic names in comic books, and the namesake of the company, and gave it to a black woman. He also made her one of the most powerful Avengers (Baron Zemo had to get Blackout just to handle her for his Masters of Evil IV; and during the Avengers vs X-Men limited series she scared the crap out of Rogue). 2) Black Cat. The Golden Age Harvey Comics version. Almost completely forgotten, and admittedly dated, but she has a charm that few characters back then, or even now, have. Plus, every issue showed diagrams of how she realistically pulled off her judo/jujitsu tricks, making it an actual "how to" guide in learning how to fight for young boys and girls. http://tinyurl.com/3bg93hm 1) Miracleman/Marvel man. I hate dystopia superhero fiction, but Alan Moore's take on corny British Captain Marvel rip-off Marvel Man is awesome. To me it is the beginning and end of all dark superhero stories - why redo what Moore did perfectly the first time?
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Do you have a twitter? If not, consider it. A spaz like you would attract a lot of people who love to laugh at people like you.
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July 8, 2011, 4:05 p.m. CST
Still the same LAME animation style that hasn't changed...
by THEE Miracleman
...in what? 15? 20? years? It can never hold up to the comic art. You guys are just ubergeeking over it because it ANIMATED!!!
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July 8, 2011, 4:37 p.m. CST
sierratangofoxtrotuniform, only a lame tool like you would drop a Twitter reference.
by The Krypton Kid
Now get back to letting that douche Ashton Kutcher punk you in your glory hole.
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Well when you are making the single best take on Batman's origin the answer is YES.
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Oh look, another contrarian... ... How unique. Saying that The Dark Knight returns is trash, or that the film The Dark Knight is supremely overrated, doesn't make you cool. It doesn't make you smarter than anyone else. It doesn't put you ahead of the curve. All that it does is prove that you don't have a single clue as to what you're talking about.
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July 8, 2011, 5:33 p.m. CST
TDKR teaser trailer wil play before Harry Potter - superherohype & comicbookmovies confirm it.
by Arkhaminmate001
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- We all love Kevin Conroy, but I don't mind them finding other voices for Batman, even if the only other one I've really liked so far was Jeremy Sisto's. - We all love Mazuchelli's artwork, but let's face it; his isn't exactly a style that lends itself easily to animation, like a Darwyn Cooke for example (Who, coincidentally enough, got his break doing layout work for the Batman Animated Series.) While it's certainly not spot on, the animation here looks quality; certainly good and reverential enough to give it an honest shot. - Isn't obvious why all of the DC direct-to-DVD stuff is just Batman, Superman, and Justice League over and over again? These movies aren't extravagantly budgeted, and to help ensure profits the producers adapt stories of characters that are known sellers. The Wonder Woman movie sold like shit initially. We're lucky we've gotten two Green Lantern movies. It would be awesome to get a Flash movie, but that probably won't happen until/unless there's a live action film to tie in to. - Top Five Heroes: 1. Batman 2. Superman 3. Spider-Man 4. The Hulk 5. Wonder Woman In that order. Deal with it. - And villains: 1. Joker 2. Magneto 3. Dr. Doom 4. Catwoman 5. Lex Luthor Again in that order.
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This looks awesome.
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July 9, 2011, 12:52 a.m. CST
Anthrax, not being contarian, those are my legit opinions and have always been. I don't care what people think.
by The Krypton Kid
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July 9, 2011, 12:53 a.m. CST
And, Anthrax, Superman is the greatest hero EVER. He is the ideal, the standard, and there would not be a Batman if not for him.
by The Krypton Kid
I can see Batman at No. 2, but no other hero is more important than Superman. No other.
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July 9, 2011, 8:30 a.m. CST
Batman, Superman. Superman, Batman. Batman, Superman.
by HollywoodHellraiser
Superman, Batman. Batman, Superman. Superman, Batman. Batman, Superman. Superman, Batman. Batman, Superman. Superman, Batman. Batman, Superman. Superman, Batman. Batman, Superman. Superman, Batman. Batman, Superman. Superman, Batman. Batman, Superman. *Sigh* I love these characters and I'm glad they're focusing on Green Lantern now, but DC/Warner really needs to get The Flash animated movie going! And more Wonder Woman wouldn't hurt either!
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So much better that most of the crap released know days
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You're bitching about a direct-to-video animated movie that caters to a small niche crowd that no one is forcing you or the rest of the world to watch? Your obvious need to stir up trouble and get attention is as pathetic as you are. Why don't you go find some opera aficionados and fans of live jazz music to go bitch at for awhile...
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Much like Alex Toth (Superfriends, Space Ghost) and Doug Wildey (Jonny Quest) his artwork involves clean, bold lines and high contrast lighting. I'd also point out that he has more in common with the work of Cooke than, say, Michael Turner or Frank Quitely. DC really missed a chance here to do something more faithful with the art, instead of another "manga light" project.
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zzzzzzzzzzzz
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She's so stupid. The ridiculous outfit, the invisible jet, the lasso that makes you tell the truth...it's like someone created a comic book hero after a round of Mad Libs. Put the Punisher in her place.
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Hope they leave that in and remove the shit with Bruce Wayne saving the day on a 10 speed. That's some gritty, fucking Lance Armstrong shit.
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and I laughed when I heard the Bat's voice. Maybe my Ambien hasn't worn off yet. I'll watch it again later.
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...is more important than Wonder Woman in the history of comics, or had a bigger impact, you're nuts. You might prefer Punisher more, and maybe argue he is a better character, but he doesn't come close to competing with her in the rankings of most important/influencial comic book characters (hell, he isn't even that original, he is just a Mack Bolan, the Executioner, rip-off). You might like Dirty Harry more, but no one would say it is was well-known or had as big as impact as Gone With the Wind did. As for her costume, jet and lasso, I think all those things are part of her charm. She was made in WWII, hence the patriotic costume (she was the super-heroine version of Rosie the Riveteer) , and her creator, Dr. William Moulton Marston, had her not only connected to Greek mythology, but he also created her own personal mythology, based on things we see in the modern era but given a magical nature. The invisible plane, golden lariat and bracelets are updated, modern versions of Apollo's flying sun chariot, Hermes' winged sandals, and Heracles' lion cloak. Context is everything.
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