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Depp Orbiting + Script Refinement + 1 Billion Dollars And Counting = PIRATES 5??


Tech issues on the site prevented this from being posted yesterday.  The info below still seems to  be in play, so here you go...


Merrick here...

Given that ON STRANGER TIDES - the fourth installment in the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN franchise - made like a billion dollars or something (I'm not exaggerating here, it actually HAS made over a billion dollars), the notion of a fifth movie in the series seems beyond inevitable.

It's now looking like Johnny Depp is close to reprising Jack Sparrow for  a fifth movie; not surprisingly, the potentiality of this was discussed long before TIDES actually hit theaters.  

Scuttlebutt preceding PIRATES 4's release also had ON STRANGER TIDES director Rob Marshall returning for another go round - which certainly seems to be a safe bet, although his return has yet to be officially announced. 

Per THIS report at TheWrap...

Update: Another individual close to the franchise said that a rough draft for the script was in, and that producer Bruckheimer and others were meeting intensively - three and four times a week - on improving it. A deal will depend on whether Depp likes the script, but this individual said the broad strokes were in place for a deal with the lead actor.

Presumably, the draft they're referring to was generated by by Terry Rossio, who co-wrote the first four films alongside long time co-scripter Ted Elliot.  A few months back we heard that Rossio was getting to work on PART 5, apparently solo this time (at least for now?) 

As of today, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES is still playing in a number of theaters, although it's forthcoming Blu-Ray is already up for pre-order HERE.


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  • July 7, 2011, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Make it stop

    by J43

  • July 7, 2011, 10:44 a.m. CST

    just make four of them at once to save money

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    space them out over the next four summers, they'll sell well and mankind can continue its slide into retardation.

  • July 7, 2011, 10:45 a.m. CST


    by King_Knut

    Ah, yes. $ > integrity*shame

  • July 7, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST

    It's Hollywood

    by J43

    They'd film Johnny Depp taking a shit if it made a billion bucks. Integrity....thats a good one.

  • July 7, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    will depend on whether Depp likes the script

    by Nuts

    More like "if the studios deliver a truckload of money". Why the hell else would Depp keep playing a character he obviously doesn't give a shit about anymore?

  • July 7, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Will not stop until

    by Terry Newman

    the sheep stop feeding the cash cow

  • July 7, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    I would probably watch a film of Depp taking a shit...

    by Kerr Girvan

    ...just saying like.

  • July 7, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    I wish there were DARK SHADOWS news

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    I understand that they've been filming the Dark Shadows movie with Johnny Depp since May. Isn't it time we got at least one "HERE'S THE FIRST PIC OF JOHNNY DEPP AS BARNABAS COLLINS" or something?

  • July 7, 2011, 10:56 a.m. CST

    title made it sound

    by Terry Newman

    Like an Ice Pirates remake with Depp. Hmmm , Depp + space+ pirates = MONEY !

  • That's like asking, "Does Hollywood like money??"

  • At least

  • July 7, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Oust Marshall. Make a QUALITY Movie For Once.

    by Crow3711

    And you could make even more money. I have hated all of these movies. Well, I didn't see the newest one because I heard it sucked huge dick. I despise the first three, but I wish a new director would come in and tell a GOOD story with these interesting characters and fantastic universe. It's a shame every story has been such a shitty, poorly scripted mess. Then again, basically everything Depp has made since he became the mega-star of mega-stars has been a shitty mess, imo. So, I doubt the tide will turn on PART FUCKING FIVE. Five movies, billions and billions of dollars, and YET.....not a quality film among them. Disgusting.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    nuts, you idiot

    by toe_knee

    Depp has said many times he enjoys playing Captain Jack and wants to make more Pirates movies, as his kids enjoy watching them. Douche.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Please stop going to bad movies

    by SmokingRobot

    Don't make me beg.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST


    by 3-d

    Had a hard time reading past that one. That being said, bring on another one. These are fun and harmless movies that don't deserve the venom that they get on the internet.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    They made two dozen "Blondie and Dagwood" movies

    by Lao_Che_Air_Freight

    I don't understand the general disdain for franchises, putting all quality arguments aside. Hollywood's been doing this for generations. I thought the 4th one was pretty okay, but I did like the first three's a link to my Pirates tribute video of the first trilogy, for those who like these things..

  • July 7, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Depp is such a fucking sell out.

    by knowthyself

    If he would just say NO they'd stop whoring out this series.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:28 a.m. CST

    I like the PIRATES franchise.

    by blackwood

  • July 7, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST


    by jasper Stillwell

    I guess they're just working on the principle that if they keep making them then sooner or later they'll get it right? That a film as lame as that last one makes a billion dollars in today's market is simply staggering.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST

    I also sometimes hit ENTER instead of TAB.

    by blackwood


  • July 7, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Depp is a perfect example of...

    by Rebel Scumb

    An actor who was doing amazing work, and getting almost no recognition except from critics and movie geeks, then he had one big mainstream hit, that suddenly turned him into a movie star instead of an actor. Now you can't go anywhere without some dumb 15 year old girl talking about Depp as if he's god's gift to acting, and yet he hasn't really done anything good since starting the pirates franchise. For the record, I'm using the Nicholas Meyer definition of Actor vs Movie star. An actor is a person who pretends they are someone else, a movie star is a person who pretends that someone else is them. Other examples of people that use to be actors and are now movie stars: pacino, de niro, Nicholson.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Stranger Tides was a big step backwards...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Besides the mermaid scene there was nothing very impressive about it. At World's End was a massive fuck up but it tried, visually attempted things. Stranger Tides had boring set designs and over all boring concepts. The third act was set in the jungle and a cave. SPOILERS The end was the dumbest thing ever as the Spanish showed up randomly to save/destroy the day. I just couldn't handle the idea that they spent all that money and man power then once they find a supernatural ability they just want to destroy it? They need an entirely new team to make the fifth film... But since every person on the planet saw Stranger Tides they assume they have the people who can make classics on their hands.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Reading Michael Crichton's "Pirate Latitudes" I thought

    by jim

    with a little tweaking they could adapt this as a "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie. It's got action, sea battles, things blowing up, a kraken, and a touch of the supernatural. Although I believe I read somewhere Spielberg is working on making a "Pirate Latitudes" movie. Then again, I also read somewhere that he'd be doing his Lincoln movie after "Munich". Still waiting on that one.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    I agree with 3-d

    by jorson28

    Besides, what are "good" movies, anyway? Damning Hollywood for basing decisions on money is rather naive, at best. Granted, I do believe Hollywood could spend far less per film - i.e., cutting the waste by not caving to the demands of all these unions, particularly the labor ones (some of which have devolved into legalized versions of the mafia) that demand a king's ransom for driving a car or moving wires. That said, it takes money to make movies - good or not, depending upon the elements being judged - and, to get the movies out there for the most people to see, A LOT OF MONEY. Sure, I have my own standards when it comes to which movies I would or would not want to see, but I'd never presume that my tastes are universally right or wrong. When all of you guys have gone through the process and managed to make a movie that makes even a blip in the marketplace (i.e., gets seen by more than just family, friends and bootleggers), THEN come back and tell the rest of us not to go see "bad movies."

  • July 7, 2011, 11:38 a.m. CST

    I will say this for the pirates & transformers movies

    by Rebel Scumb

    they were the movies that convinced me that if I don't like the first one, to not go see any of the sequels, despite whatever the trailers promise or how much hype they generate, or much I am craving a big summer blockbuster. I'm voting with my money, and I voted against Pirates 2,3 & 4 and against transformers 2 & 3.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST

    POTC 4 was dog shit!

    by BlueLando

    You people should read Death Boy instead. Who knows, maybe then the AICN A$$holes would review it.

  • July 7, 2011, 11:43 a.m. CST

    jasper, 70% of that billion is from Foreign box office

    by jim

    and, no doubt, aided by the increased ticket price of 3D.

  • I know I would never accept tens of millions of dollars with the knowledge that my last four movies all made over a billion dollars each, but by doing so I would lose the acclaim of the fanbois who never paid to see my movies before the first Pirates movie. Nope. Not I!

  • July 7, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Saw this in theaters twice...

    by bubcus

    ... and the movie is pretty good and consistent with the series. It was less of a comedy than the second film, it had less of the magic, but all in all it was watchable and enjoyable. I think my favorite scene (SPOILER) was of Depp leaving Cruz's character on the beach at the end. For me it was a Han Solo moment and I literally cheered out loud. My Mexican girlfriend at the time started screaming at me "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?!" as she started punching me in the arm and I laughed harder and harder. That made the film totally worth it to me. Course then she cheered with the Voodoo doll scene at the close of the credits. I say keep these films coming. They are easily re-watchable films on the DVD/Blu-Ray players and fun romps in the world of pirates.

  • True Story. This is the... 'get filthy rich making trash films'.. segment of his career. Between garbage like #4 and The Tourist he's simply piling up the dough while burning every single bit of credibility he ever had.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    rebel scumb

    by SupermanIsMyGod

    Your vote counts just as much as your Presidential vote, which is to say nil, zero, zip, zilch. 3 of the 8 highest grossing films of all time now have Pirates of the Caribbean in the title, so expect these to keep on coming, no matter how much "voting" you think you're doing..

  • July 7, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST

    myphdisdoom, re: Pirates 4 ** SPOILERS **

    by jim

    I bought the Spanish plot device. They viewed the fountain as some sort of pagan magic (they do say something along those lines). While the films are fantasy they do exist in a specific historical time period. Spain, like many countries of that era, was not exactly tolerant of other religions, let alone those who they felt practiced witchcraft or other "demonic arts". Drinking from the Fountain of Youth, to them, was akin to making a pact with the Devil. To them it was an evil altar that was an affront to the Catholic Church and needed to be destroyed. At least that's how I saw it. However, I did find the majority of the film rather flat. I do agree that the mermaid sequence was indeed impressive. Even with that I still felt the movie lacked a great choreographed set-piece, like the Mill wheel sword fight from the second one. And, am I wrong in my remembering that there weren't any sea battles? A movie about pirates and no sea battles (other than the mutiny and the poor dude in the rowboat who got flambeed)?

  • July 7, 2011, 12:05 p.m. CST

    ON STRANGER TIDES wasn't lame.

    by blackwood

    Did it successfully capture the bizarre magic of the first film? No. But I think it was a step in the right direction for the franchise, being more or less a 'standalone', and a fun film overall. The story of a missionary and a mermaid falling in love should have been at the center of the film. The story, as it was, was kind of a non-event. I love Jack Sparrow, but he needs to get caught up in things, not be the driving force. Or if he is the driving force, give him the opportunity for some growth and development -- as a character I think he can survive learning and changing. Like Barbossa. Barbossa was great. Great great great. Aside from the mermaid attack, my favourite scene in the film is his conversation with Sparrow about how he lost his leg and the Pearl. I read some criticism about the scene and how it would have been better to show, as the prologue. But I loved the way Rush sold it, and the haunting sounds of it playing behind his words. There's still something here. More can be done, and I feel like there's another really, genuinely amazing PIRATES film that can be plucked from the ether with the right hands. I think Rob Marshall is a poor choice for director -- get someone else, someone interesting, for the next film. Someone on par with Verbinski, a younger filmmaker with great instincts that can elevate the material. Marshall seems to match the material and wouldn't know 'wonder and magic' if it slapped him in the eye with its dick. And maybe Rossio can knock out a more heartfelt, interesting script on his own. Maybe he started with the missionary and the mermaid and all the other fingers messed up his pie. The franchise can sustain a better, more meaty and hearty narrative than they shot for in the last one, that doesn't need to be the Jack Sparrow Show -- or if it is, have it mean something. Honestly, I'd love to see Judi Dench in it, as whoever that powered lady was that Jack had tongue-to-ear relations in the blink-and-miss-it TIDES cameo. Have that be the relationship Jack minces around -- I liked Cruz, but we can move on from that relationship. There wasn't much there. I want Jack to be trapped on an adventure with an older woman who is more than his intellectual and sexual equal, but, like, old and rich and weird. And I want more Barbossa on his crazy, interesting arc. Enough fighting over the Pearl. I think the franchise has great characters played by amazing actors, and all it needs for another really great and worthy entry is finding something genuinely interesting for these characters to do. TIDES only failed in that the endeavor wasn't worth it, and the characters that could have carried it weren't given enough to do so. It was fun to spend time in this world with these folk, but in the end it was just that; making time. All of which to say -- I hope they aim higher, write smarter, direct action I care about to match characters I am quite fond of. But I'm definitely up for more.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST

    They should have it involve that weird prison from pt. 2.

    by rev_skarekroe

    I liked that bit.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I loved Pirates 4

    by Mattman

    Liked the story, action scenes, and new characters. I didn't hate Orlando and Keira, but it was nice to have a fresh start without their characters. The bad reviews were pure backlash and had nothing to do with the film's quality.

  • Hilarious.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    I remember genderblender acting as if feminism was still relevant.

    by blackwood

    She's a gem.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Dirk, i'd say it was no one BUT the fanboys who

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    kept Depp afloat in the pre-Pirates years.<P> I was born in 1980, and I remember girls at school going crazy over him when we were eleven and Scissorhands came out. But really that was about it; certainly, it seems like most people didn't know who he was until Pirates came out, whereas he'd never really gone away for me, and the people like me, who watched Dead Man, Arizona Dream, Cry Baby, Gilbert Grape etc. I admire the guy's career, but he'd made enough money - I assume - and was far enough along this career path that it seems a bit of a shame to fall at such a late hurdle and just start churning out shite. I don't buy the 'my kids like it so I do it' line; it's weak and doesn't mean anything.<P> He's got enough draw that he doesn't get to use the Macy/Cusack 'one for them, one for me' line either; he doesn't do little, interesting films anymore. A shame.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST

    is there no fucking end in sight?

    by Stalkeye

    Shit, even Harry Potter knew when to throw in the towel. How many more of these boring POTC films many have to endure before they close the books? And Depp is selling out big time. He'll be forever typecast as Jack Sparrow and not the guy known for avantgarde roles in; Johnny Scissorhands, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, Dead Man, Ed Wood,etc. WTF Happened to this once great actor?

  • July 7, 2011, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Blackwood, touche

    by Mattman

    Pirates 4's billion dollar box office take probably has something to do with society's fascination with rape. I'm sure she'll enlighten us.

  • They could make it a cheap direct-to-video release about the son/daughter trying to live up to their father's famous reputation.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Oh and the Tourist is a great cure for insomnia.

    by Stalkeye

    Only thing that would have kept me awake while me and my wife was watching this, would be Jolie doing nude scenes, but then again there's always my GIA fix.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    If $350 million was waived under your noses, you'd "sell out" too

    by gruntybear

    Don't even pretend otherwise, because we all know that's bullshit.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    stalkeye, Ed Wood... what a brilliant film

    by Mattman

    No need to abandon hope for Depp's quirky roles. He still has Rum Diary and Dark Shadows on he horizon. As for pirates, you call him a sellout... I call him smart. No one would turn away the money he's raking in, and at least he's having fun doing it. He loves playing Sparrow. It's his Indiana Jones.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Not really defending Depp here but

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Rum Diary is one of those "little" movies people on here seem to want him to make, but filming ended years ago, so I'm guessing it's probably not going to be very good. I thought his acting in Public Enemies was good, much more understated than the carnival freak roles he's been kind of specialising in since the first Pirates movie, but a lot of people hated the movie (and in some instances justifiably) for it's poor cinematography, meandering script, and nearly inaudible dialogue.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    iwasinjuniorhighdickhead is officially my favorite name ever.

    by Nomoredirtyanything

    kudos you sumbitch.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Johnny, what the fuck happened to you man?

    by charteredstreets

    Yo' ass used to be beautiful.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton to direct Pirates 5???

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I think I saw that rumor a few weeks ago.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    people will carp....

    by emeraldboy

    but the previous three pirates movies had outstanding production values and as soggy and bland Keira and Orlando were, there replacements were dull insipid. none of pirates 4 had any of the spark of the original movies, none of the actions scenes were interesting or fun. and the love story of the bland preacher and the mermaid was boring and ian mcshane took so long to appear than when he did he it was anticlimax. and I found penelope cruz's character to be unbelievable. none of my friends in the group thought this film was any good. and neither did I.

  • July 7, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Johnny Depp sold out years ago

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Just he's making a heck of a lot more money now than he did during his Nick of Time, Astronaut's Wife, From Hell era. I guess just now he's doing a lot less Ed Wood, Donnie Brasco, and Fear and Loathing type of roles.

  • July 7, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    Comic-Con Thursday (7/21) movie panels announced...

    by Paul Hanlin Jr

    All times Pacific Daylight in Hall H: 11:15-12:15 The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 preview/Q&A (participants TBA) 3:15-4:30 20th Century Fox 2011-12 Movie Preview (movies/participants TBA) 6-7: Entertainment Weekly: The Visionaries panel with Jon Favreau (Cowboys & Aliens) and Guillermo del Toro (Don't Be Afraid of the Dark).

  • July 7, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Hey Jack Sparrow's a great character.

    by highfunctioningsociopath

    But for fuck's sake give us a second decent movie and not Pirates Of The Caribbean Revolutions 4.

  • July 7, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST


    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    thank you, kind sir

  • July 7, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    If they have to do it...

    by vadakinX

    If they insist on making another one then forget Krakens and Davy Jones and Mermaids and cursed gold and just make it about Sparrow vs Barbosa. Make it a personal duel, a final showdown. Pirates 4 kinda set it up with Barbosa getting the Queen Anne's Revenge and Jack getting the Pearl. And no I don't care if that's a spoiler.

  • July 7, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Will there actually be a naval battle in this one?

    by whatevillurks

    I mean, come on. Barbossa runs into the Spainish fleet and they just ignore each other? I want canons and men o war going at it!

  • July 7, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST

    "Script refinement"? HAHAHAHAHA

    by HagCeli

  • July 7, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    God what a bunch of carping whiners...

    by DreadPirateRoberts

    We get it, your too cool to like POTC. (but let's face it, you are film genre geeks reading AICN, how cool can you BE?). But Depp is not "selling out". He really likes making them. So what. You don't like them, don't watch them. Lot's of others do. Get over it. They are not stupid, they just enjoy the movies.<br><br>As for a couple of less rabid points: I did not miss the naval battles. They did a bunch already, so a change up was not a problem for me. As for the Spanish just showing up and destroying things, no problem for me either. Happened all the time in history. From the Taliban blowing up the Buddhas to the early church dismantling "pagan" roman buildings and statues.<br><br>The movies are far from perfect, but they are exactly what they set out to be, and why people flock to them.

  • July 7, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    WHy isn't anyone interested in...

    by torontoxic this can be so poorly received by US audiences yet go on to be one of the highest grossing movies ever? <P> Doesn't that seem weird to anyone else?

  • July 7, 2011, 1:33 p.m. CST

    isn't it the 3d prices inflating the gross?

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    every film that comes out seems to break some kind of record.

  • July 7, 2011, 1:34 p.m. CST

    iwasinjuniorhighdickhead - then no wonder he wants to make money

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    It seems far too often people (not necessarily you by-the-by) ascribe what they consider higher ethical/moral/obligatory standards on public figures than they themselves would ever submit to. In Depps case - an actor fer crying out loud, is accused of selling out because he would not turn down tens of millions of dollars. I do not know of anyone who would, and I doubt any on AICN ever would either if offered the chance. So, the complaints are merely another form of jealousy. If'n ya don't want to see the movie, don't pay to see it. How many Bond movies did Connery make by-the by, and how many people begged for another Indy Jones movie (which in hindsight they should not have considering how that stinking pile turned out)? I do not fault Depp one teeny bit. He paid his dues, and did the indie actor thing

  • July 7, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    It's all about the international numbers.

    by Orbots Commander

    This Summer really broke open the promise, for studios, of the international box-office. Years past, movies that did middling business here in the U.S., like The Davinci Code and its sequel, played HUGE overseas, as in One Billion Dollars huge. Now, this Summer, nearly every release has made more than half of its theatrical gross from overseas sales. (Of course, this can't save a real stinker: Green Lantern, as an example, died in theaters both here AND overseas, so no franchise for you Warner Brothers and Ryan Reynolds.)

  • July 7, 2011, 1:45 p.m. CST


    by D Ropaela

    It's a new era of film commerce. The rest of the world could give two shits about anything but being entertained. They want huge spectacles, and they love 3D.

  • thats know that someone actually sat down and wrote this shit out.

  • July 7, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    big jim

    by jasper Stillwell

    Absolutely. It's one of those franchises that just seems to cross all kinds of boundaries. It's crossover appeal seems to constantly circumnavigate any kind of quality control or logic (to me), but then again that's why I'm not running a major studio. A billion is a 'heck' of a lot for a motion picture - even of this size.

  • July 7, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Great point, dirk_the_amoeba

    by D Ropaela

    And Depp, like Clooney, Pitt and Damon, still takes on interesting projects from time to time. If he can make money churning out spectacular bullshit, so be it. You don't have to go see it. Remember, talkbackland: Michael Caine, one of the great movie stars of all time, couldn't receive an Oscar because he was out filming Jaws: The Revenge and making a good deal of money to do so.

  • Didn't see Pir4te$. Just saw Deadwood's finale again... bleak and fitting, but it wasn't a series finale. Cocksucker.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST


    by D Ropaela

    I just wish some cool billionaire out there strolls up to David Milch's doorstep and drops a bag containing $200 million and a note compelling him to make a Deadwood film trilogy to wrap that shit up.

  • That said, I picture him standing politely off to the side at the 21 Jump Street premiere, watching Jonah Hill chest-bumping and bro-hugging all the other dick-joke extraordinares, and finally saying "Fuck this, I'm going back to the apple box."

  • July 7, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST

    thatchicken, are you related to therewolf?

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    Chickens and Wolves living together! Woe betide this world Woe betide!

  • July 7, 2011, 2:12 p.m. CST


    by Rebel Scumb

    I don't expect it to make a difference, I just don't want to be like a lot of the jackoffs on here who bitch about certain movies or shows then continue to go watch them expecting something other than dissappointment.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST


    by Pvt. Duke

    This is a job for Mark Cuban. He's douchey, but his heart's in the right place and it's not like he'd do dialogue.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST

    This talkback could have ended with j43's first post.

    by PeopleCallMeTheBriMan

  • July 7, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Depp is a sell out???

    by SA_Rhyno

    How the hell can you say that? He is an actor... actors get paid to make movies. Call him a sell out is like calling a musician a sell out for dropping another album. It is what they do, it is how they make a living. I couldn't give a flying fuck if they make 1000 more movies. No one is forcing you morons to watch them. If you don't think they will be any good, don't see them. Rather than vent and seethe, do me a favor and realize for one second that neither Marshall, Depp, or Jerry are in it to do anything less than make a crapton of money. I'm not sure what you idiots do for a living, but I sell real estate and you can bet your ass I'd do alot of shit I normally wouldn't do if someone backed the Brinks truck up to my door. Depp is doing nothing more than making a life for himself and his family. You people wouldn't even consider not taking these roles if they were offered to you.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Fuck off Disney, I'm not in the mood.

    by dalcross

    I've had a shitty day and I have to read about this ?

  • July 7, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Capitalism is a good thing

    by izzatrix

    The pirate movies are fun. They aren't deep or inspirational. They are perfect summer movies. See em. Forget them. Maybe watch them again in a few years when they show up on TNT. Oh and they make money. A good thing in a time of high unemployment and consumer apathy.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:34 p.m. CST

    We need a REAL pirates movie to counter this kiddie commercial crap.

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    I like Depp a lot and he seems like a great guy, so I just dismiss the Pirates movies because I don't care for them. They suck, but I choose to just ignore them. That being said, if I were a filmmaker, I'd make a gritty, ugly, stinky pirate movie with gritty, ugly, stinky pirates that rape and plunder and murder like they really did. I'm not talking about Somalian apes nowadays although I'd like to see a series based on the people hunting those savages down and killing them like the animals that they are. We need a real pirate movie that makes people NOT want to be fucking Jack Sparrow and all these other comic book versions of those barbarians. Let's see the Saving Private Ryan of pirate movies, with blood and body parts and torn panties and wrecked ships and cannon balls and decapitations and all that stuff that real pirates are associated with.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Depp,Marshall and who should REALLY direct PIRATES 5

    by Lord Elric

    Ummm...girls going nuts for Depp is NOT new. Been that way since his 21 JUMP STREET days. No Marshall again. His lack of taking advantage of the script nearly sunk the latest PIRATES. Want to know who should do the next one? TERRY GILLIAM. He's worked, and gotten along with, Depp before, is PERFECT for this sort of thing, and DESERVES THE BREAK. He can certainly bring it on budget and deliver a GREAT Pirates movie. Someone please mailbomb Bruckheimer and Disney's offices and make this happen.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Dirk, it depends

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    offer me £15,000,000 right now, when I have about three grand in my bank account, then hell yeah. If you ask me when I already have £30,000,000, then things change. Same logic for actors and adverts. If you're starting out, then OK. but if you're Jared fucking Leto and you decide you need another three houses, then no. As soon as you're a multimillionaire then money should cease to be a concern. Are you really Nicolas Caging through your money that fast that you can sacrifice art over content when you have already accrued such wealth? <P> It's the reason why I laugh at Mick Jagger when he's walking out of some fraught business meeting, trying to earn yet more money when he is almost seventy. Most people's arses would have hit the beach while the last note of the Satisfaction riff was still ringing out.<P> Sorry, rambling post. Point is, money shouldn't be the concern when people are as rich as these folks are, and they purport to be 'artists'.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:49 p.m. CST

    I'm not picking on Depp

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    he has been a pretty superb actor; there are many worse than him. No one from that era can touch his career and I think he is great. Maybe i'm just jealous that the Johnny I remember playing in P at the Viper Room and appearing in every kooky film of my youth is now some massive star, who knows?<P> I do love the idea of some tween delving into his back catalogue and falling in love with Dead Man. What a fucking soundtrack. Young says all he used for it was two guitars, an organ and a revving motorcycle engine.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:53 p.m. CST

    It was unusual that the recent pirate fad sparked by this series

    by Dennis_Moore

    didn't spark competition. I agree -- how about something else? Perhaps something set in the Golden Age of Sail, minus the fantastic elements, and or other fantasy pirate movies not owned by The Mouse? Maybe some original scripts, some based on novels , or some existing properties (Monkey Island, Sid Meier, Polly and the Pirates, Pirates of Darkwater, etc). Though, preferably new material.

  • July 7, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    It would be inevitable, wouldn't it?

    by AsimovLives

    Also, i'll be no suprised at all if soon enough they will anounce a 4th Bayfuckmers movie, with Bay involved. Some things are just inevitable.

  • Agree. And taken from real history too. There's so many fantastic real life stories of real pirates of the past that they could make for facinating movies. And done very realistic, MASTER AND COMMANDER style.

  • July 7, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST

    The movie isn't bad.

    by bubcus

    I see a lot of complaints here but I really don't believe the movie was as bad as people are making it out to be. The trial in London was witty and fun. Barbossa's temporary Entrepreneur stint was fun. The escape was typical Sparrow silly (though his dad being there was a bit strange). Cruz was alright in her role. The mutiny was fun. Blackbeard was awesome! The Mermaid attack was fantastic! THEY HAD NO SHELLS!! Even better!!!! The missionary / mermaid romance was solid and I love how that ended. Barbossa's speech on how he lost the pearl and his leg was great. The Spanish destroying the fountain made sense as one person above pointed out. And Sparrow dumping Cruz's character on an island was fantastic. The ship in a bottle was equally great (with a quick homage to the undead monkey). This was a good standalone film. I loved the second film, was frustrated by the third, and this one just felt on par with the series but a little less funny and THAT point might have left some people grouchy about it.

  • July 7, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Asimov, I'll take the Pirates movies anyday over Transformers

    by Mattman

    All four pirates movies have been gorgeously filmed on location, do not waste the talent of their lead stars, and don't resort to toilet humor in order to make you laugh.

  • July 7, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Pirates 4 was the most unfairly bashed movie of the year

    by Mattman

    While Fast Five got an inexplicably positive rating at Rotten.

  • July 7, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Agreed Asimov...

    by Mr Soze

    Blackbeards blockade of Charleston for Medicine because of veneral disease, his pardon, his winter quarters down in the caribbean, and best of all his epic death.

  • I would love to see it given justice on the bigscreen.

  • July 7, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Pirates 4 was a good movie but...

    by templesweeper wasn't anywhere close to the pure fun of the first film. It's the second best film in the series. WAY ahead of parts 2 and 3. The key to this series is not to go TOO far overboard on the fantasy element. The balance in parts 1 and 4 got it right. Parts 2 and 3 were WAY over the top. The fantasy elements are much more impacting if they aren't always in your face. That is why Game of Thrones is so successful. Both in the books and show, when fantasy stuff does happen, you drop your jaw.

  • July 7, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Anyone else read Richard Zacks' "The Pirate Hunter"?

    by jim

    Now there's a story that could make a great, gritty, real-life pirate movie.

  • July 7, 2011, 3:23 p.m. CST

    iwasinjuniorhighdickhead - gotta disagree with ya sporto

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    One, you can never have too much money. Two, you never know what someones bank account really is (other than iwasinjuniorhighdickhead's), so assuming they have not burned through their cash is not a good thing. Three - see point number one. Amassing great wealth and wanting more is no crime when it is done legitimately. Depp paid his dues. For decades he was the good looking Paul Giammati (I know I spelled that wrong). His only allegiance is to himself and his family. The first Pirates fell into his lap, and he ran with it and created an iconic character. I do not fault him one bit for still running

  • July 7, 2011, 3:23 p.m. CST

    RE: Bayfuckmers

    by Stalkeye

    LMMFAO Good one Asi. What's sad is two of my friends (both within the Geek Army) have seen and enjoyed the 3rd "bayfuckmers" film. Ahhhhh, no accounting for tastes what else can I say WTF is the world coming to when individulas who share the same interests as I can about face and vouch for a piece of shit Movie like TF3? ANSWER ME, ANSWER ME NOW!* *poking fun at Killik's Geek raged post towards you the other day. LMAO

  • July 7, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST

    No Johnny No No No

    by Cess Pitt

    Johnny B Bad

  • July 7, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    could be wrong...

    by OfficerJunior

    I thought when they announced that they'd continue the franchise after the trilogy they said they'd make two more. Hmmmm IDK

  • July 7, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST

    yeah, I understand completely the principle

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    behind what you're saying, so it is probably just me. I honestly can't help thinking that that would be my attitude, though. When you get to something like £40,000,000, you enter some weird plane of existence (or an actual plane, in Travolta's instance) where money would surely become abstract. If there's something you can't get or mortgage when you're that loaded, then something is fucked.<P> I'd imagine egotism is a trait shared by many A-listers, and when the zeros on the end of my bank balance stop making sense to me, the next thing i'd start worrying about would be my reputation, and all the fucking pirate movies i'm doing. But then again Depp's done his time in the trenches, so maybe he doesn't give one shit anymore. Why does he not just take the show to residency in Vegas? <P> Like I said, I like him. The only reason they exist at all is because he gave such a unique performance that they could hang the film around.

  • July 7, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST

    PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 5 will probably have...

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Werewolves & Vampires

  • Getting a massive payday to play an already iconic character that he loves playing is a no-brainer. Or maybe he should bend to the fickle whims of talkbackers and stop collecting multi-million dollar checks?

  • July 7, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST

    I would call these films guilty pleasures

    by i_got_worms

    But frankly I don't even feel guilty about it.

  • July 7, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Will Jack patrol for slavers off the coast of the U.S.?

    by whatevillurks

  • July 7, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST


    by Rebel Scumb

    I completely agree. After a certain amount of money, I would just want to work on the projects that interested me. If you're worth over $50 million and you're still worrying about money, then you have in my opinion, a problem. I know some actors do charity donations and stuff, but I've never heard of any of these movie stars signing over all $20 million they made on a film to those in need. George Clooney seems to have the right idea. He made his money, and now just focus' on doing stories that interest him. Not that all of his films are good, but I always get the sense that his heart is in the right place. There are a lot of big names who just phone it in for a pay day.

  • July 7, 2011, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Depp does get to hangout with Keith Richards

    by Knobules

    And get paid a lot to do it. Cant blame the guy. Man Ill bet the smoke a lot of junk before saying ACTION!

  • July 7, 2011, 4:32 p.m. CST

    we could have a Shyamalan take on it

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    business as usual, then a modern-day Coastguard boat shows up and carts him off in a straightjacket, and a character (played by Shyamalan)is noted as being a genius writer who will one day save the world.

  • Blackbeard's death (and his career in general) is one of those cases when life is stranger then fiction. And his is not even the most stange and absurdly epic tale of the true life and exploits of a once real and living pirate. It's as if this real pirates of old had deliberatly set themselves to live epic lives designed to later be told in stories. Yeah, being genre savvy actually predates television.

  • July 7, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    I bought up a piec eof good will from Killik when i told him how to get a DVD edition of the complete TV show DAS BOOT. I was pleasantly suprised the dude loves that show. Hidden dephts and all that.

  • July 7, 2011, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Depp owns and lives in a castle in France.

    by AsimovLives

    The mantaince of the joint must cost a fortune... literally. But i would say it's worth it, I mean, he lives in a castle. How cool is that? Nicholas Cage tried the same and it bankrupted him. But then again, Cage had the unfortunate idea of TRANSPOSING the castle STONE BY STONE to the USA. Depp just decided to live in the same country the castle is in. Smart dude. And it doesn't hurt that he's married to a french hottie either. Really smart dude.

  • July 7, 2011, 5:24 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    In the 17th century, there was no USA. Qute a shoci for you, isn't it? Contrary to what Holywood might teach you, there was no americans in the world before the invention of the USA. And even then it took quite a while for your country to find your own cultural identity. Back then, that "USA" coast was ENGLISH, with Florida in the south being SPANISH and with the top north where Quebecq is belonging to the FRENCH. Hell, back then New York was DUTCH.

  • Welcome to Tom Cruise and Arnold Schwarzeneggers's life.

  • July 7, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Just to clarify, in LADY IN THE WATER, the character played by Shymalan WRITES a book, a book which will inspired a guy to set his life's goals into a path course of action that will have him save the world as a consequence. Criticise that movie for all your worth, but do it for the right reasons and for what's actually in the movie.

  • July 7, 2011, 5:46 p.m. CST

    I quite like the idea of Sparrow outside the US coast

    by Madcapper

    I just had a vision of Jack Sparrow being captain on a US destroyer in a post ww3 film, where the US has barricaded themselves on their own continent in fear of European and Asian looters. Bolo Yeung would command an Asian fleet out of a smoldering Shanghai, teaming up with the European pirate leader, Captain Paul Giamatti,to gain access to the land of plenty. Intrigues, confusion, and backstabbing would ensue, and a modern sci-fi classic right up there with Battefield Earth would be born. Make it happen Hollywood.

  • July 7, 2011, 5:59 p.m. CST

    A pirate movie, MASTER & COMMANDER style?

    by blackwood

    Asi. I think I love you. Genuinely, MASTER & COMMANDER is one of my favourite films of all time. Such a fantastic sense of scale and adventure, rooted in a deeply felt brotherhood, painted in splintered wood and blood and saltwater. It was one my first Blu buys. Everything about it is gorgeous -- performance, direction, cinematography, sound design. You are on that ship. I thought Weir had it in his head to do a bunch of M&C films. Sad it hasn't come to pass.

  • July 7, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    I liked On Stranger Tides


    It fixed some of the problems of the first 2 sequels, and everyone complains?

  • It'll NEVER happen, but what a great fucking idea.

  • July 7, 2011, 6:51 p.m. CST

    And for the record, I didn't hate Part 4.

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Not great, but more enjoyable than 3. A little, anyway.

  • July 7, 2011, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Gays and Action (films)

    by Pvt. Duke

    Superman was shitty, but X Men was good and X Men 2 ruled. But you could argue that gays have trouble with the chest-thumping, fire-breathing tough-guy. On True Blood, even the big hairy fuck who can't be an inch under 6'4" - a Werefolf! - is a pussy. And badass Brad from Generation Kill is basically a thousand-year-old emo kid. Jason Stackhouse is great, but he's a goofball and a caricature and basically the male equivalent of a stupid chick with big tits. Ditto Hoyt, the fucking bumpkin. Sam Merlotte is a tiny fart with a five-o'clock-shadow and they lost me when he put one in that guy's head. Lafayette rules, and he's more badass than any of the show's straight men. But I wouldn't only blame the fact that Alan Ball is gay for the reason True Blood features bad action scenes and unbelievable male characters. After all, plenty of women have directed episodes of the show. D'oh!

  • July 7, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Probably with 4 was no emotional stakes or journey.

    by Charlie

    It was all, hey a bunch of people go to the fountain of youth. They don't really want to. The end. It took the characters no where. It shows how important the Will and Elizabeth characters and their story arc was to the first films. Where even if all the craziness still made sense, there was a core relationship story progressing.

  • July 7, 2011, 8:15 p.m. CST

    franky 5 fingers

    by 3-d

    I don't know what your post has to do with anything but can we get past all of the love for the first two X-Men movies? They take themselves way too seriously and the pacing is absolutely terrible. Yet everyone complains about the Pirates films.

  • July 7, 2011, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Terry Gilliam directs Pirates 5...

    by blackwood

    Genius idea. Seriously. I just watched MUNCHAUSEN the other day on Netflix. I loved it so much when I was a kid, I was afraid to see it again -- but I shouldn't have been because it's brilliant. God. It's such a good idea. Maybe Depp can make that a condition of his return. Bigger percent off the back end, and Gilliam directs.

  • July 7, 2011, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Selling Out" is just another way to say "I Envy that Fucker

    by conspiracy

    Depp isn't selling out anyone...he is a businessman who sells his skill to the highest bidder. Someday he may make another "Art" film that nobody except douchebag elitists who think this ... "Art" will see. But until that time the guy is making millions of fans happy and making his employers and himself a ass load of $$$.

  • July 7, 2011, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Look at Giiliam's work

    by Lord Elric

    Tell me he's not PERFECT as a choice. I seriously don't see him going over budget. He's more of a practical effects guy anyways. Depp would love it , I think. Let Gilliam and Depp take over, give them a budget and then just sort of sit back and watch the magic work. I guarantee you'd get boffo box office AND critical acclaim. With a bonus prize of Gilliam maybe having slightly less trouble getting a movie off the ground afterwards. The man just came off a movie with major star power that only didn't make as much as it should have because the distributor got cold feet. It's TOTALLY doable. We just need to know how to get Depp behind this enough. He can make it happen. Maybe the one person along with Bruckheimer, who can. WE CAN DO THIS!

  • July 7, 2011, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Selling out??? Fucktards!!!!

    by sam jacksons wig

    Here! Have $35m !!!! All you have to do is run about and read these lines and look bemused for 2 hours. No, I couldn't possibly do that because I have principles and only make arthouse movies that will never see the light of day in a mainstream cinema. I got paid $25,000 for the last one I did and I have my pride!!! All of you idiots who are complaining of selling out need your fucking heads examined. Like none of you would do it if you were given the chance!!! No-one asks anyone to go and see these movies if they dont want to, but we choose to do it, making it a $1 billion and counting, and them lambast Depp for taking a massive payday???? Next time I would ask for MORE fucking cash, do the same fucking thing as before and watch the $$$$$ roll in!!! You created the monster and now want to destroy it??? TOO FUCKING LATE!!!!!

  • July 7, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Gilliam. Gilliam.

    by blackwood

    I feel like the revelation of this idea is retarding me in it's awesomeness. It's the perfect mix of actor/director/material. Just... perfect. Perfect. PERFECT. Jesus. Seriously. To whom do I write a letter to request this happen? Michael Bay listened to his fans, as best he could, with his penis in his ears. Maybe I should write a letter to Depp, and include some hair, just to show I'm serious.

  • July 7, 2011, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Gilliam should've directed 1 of the SW prequels...

    by darthwaz1

    He was born for it..just direct Lucas' story, I bet he could've even made Jar Jar more likeable... As for Pirates, I'd try to get Burton, Del Toro, Alfonso Cuaron, or someone else w/a dark sensibility who can bring a fresh and scary approach to the series, sort of what the 1st movie had.

  • 2 was OK at best.... 3 was one of the WORST FILMS ever commited to celluloid... 4 was even worse...Deplorable film..... and THIS is what is making billions? What? Potter films I can see as they are QUALITY FILMS of the highest artistic caliber... but Pirates films suck ass...period.... please stop.

  • July 8, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    See a lot of people shit on part 3


    but I really hated part 2. I liked part 3 a lot more. Maybe because I had very low expectations and knew that it was going to be an over-stuffed cluster-fuck going in. Part 4 was decent. I'm surprised I liked it. I give it a B. They simplified the plot and characters which was an improvement.

  • July 8, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Look at Depp's resume


    does that look like a sell-out to you? Idiots!

  • July 8, 2011, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Depp no longer the dashing outlaw/rebel. Now he's the paycheck player.

    by Onin Solstice

    Still dashing though, damn him. But he's clearly not the guy who picks quirky roles in smaller films. He's the Disney/Burton bitch who does his schtick on command like a trained monkey. "Look at me , I'm doing an offbeat character with lots of make up...floo-floo-loo!"

  • July 8, 2011, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Madcapper = Scientologist?

    by Ciderman

    Seriously? A SciFi classic like Battlefield Earth? The books were pulp tripe, only ever a success due to a certain pseudo religion buying up xopies. The movie was, literally, one if the worst sciencefiction films of all time, if not simply one if the worst films of all time. So, you batting for that cult or what, or are you just someone with no taste? Maybe you should post somewhere else.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:39 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    "Genuinely, MASTER & COMMANDER is one of my favourite films of all time" You are not alone on that, brother. The ideas was indeed to turn M&C into a franchsie, the same way the books are made of many titles. Sadly, thoughthemovie did earned some commercial sucess, it was not deeped enough to make a sequel and kickstart a franchise. A pity, really. Well, at least we still have a one kick-ass badass age of sailing movie.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:41 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Michael Bay is fucking gay, just because he bury his tendencies and pretend he's not doesn't mean that... wait a minute! You are right, gays can't make action movies! Yeah! Bay is another example of what you said. You are into something there, pal.

  • July 8, 2011, 2:43 a.m. CST

    re Pirates 5

    by Ciderman

    Pirates 4 introduced little new, the only thing was the Spanish motivation and eventual actions, loved that. Truly, had the series finished at 3 then everyone would be happy but now they're geared for more let's hope we get back to the fun of the first movie. No way they'd let Gilliam near it, he'd take twice as long to make it and it wind up costing 3 times mire than the budget, and he's already perfected period adventure in the sublime Munchausen.

  • ... that idea is so awesome, as reward he deserves to have sex with the most gorgeaus Holywood startet actress. If it's a she, she deserves to have sex with the most gorgeaus Holywood startet actress too.

  • July 8, 2011, 3:38 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    The idea that Gilliam makes movies that surpass their inicial budget and go over-time is total complete bulshit. The only movie where it supposedly happend was with BARON MULCHAUSEN, and even that was a complete misunderstanding of what really happening. Gilliam and his producer had offered the investors a budget and a time schedule which they believed would be enough to make the movie. The investors didn't accepted it and forced Gilliam and the producder to cut the budget and the time schedule. In the end, the movie costed as much and took as long to make as Gilliam's inicial estimates, and with far less problems. So, if they had gone with Gilliam's plan, the movie had bene mad eontimeand on budget. In fact, Gilliam is known to be very consicious about budget and time schedules. He himself doens't liek to make movies more expensive then absolutly necessary. Since his first movie he has shown incredibly economic acumen in his filmmaking, always brining his movies underbudget and under-schedule. His fame of being an over-spender is complete bullshit that people believe on faith without actually knowing or bothering to know the the truth about it.

  • July 8, 2011, 6:18 a.m. CST

    I'll wait for DVD to watch Pirates 4.

    by AsimovLives

    3D is not impressing me all that much. I'm far more impressed with good deep focus photography then 3D, to tell you the truth. I find deep focus photography to be far more immersive and visually stimulating and pleasing then 3D.

  • ... but i haven't disliked any of the Pirates movies i have seen so far. None is more suprised at that them me. No, not even the Pirates sequels have displeased me. I have no ill disposition toward of of them so far. Let's see when i finally get to watch the 4th how it goes.

  • July 8, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Er, Asimov, that's no different to what I said

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    bit confused as to your point there? <P> Would have responded earlier, but Aintitcool has been down in the UK for the past twenty hours, just like it is every four or so days!

  • July 8, 2011, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Pirates 4 was really bland and boring...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Watch any of the other three even At World's End which was horrible and they are much more visually entertaining. Pirates 5 better add something fun to it. The zombies in Pirates 4 were fucking lame. Black Beard was under used. Just a waste there was a cool story there but they ignored to tell it. Can't believe people loved this movie. Audiences just have really low standards these days I guess.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    It read differently to me. It looked like to me that from your post, that you beleive that in LADY IN WATER that you think that it's the Shymalan character who will save the world because he writes a book. When it's not like that, he writes a book that inspires a path of action on somebody who will one day save the world. Just to clarify. and i'm sorry that in UK the AICN's net acess is screwed, but i don't think it's exclusive to there either. sometime sin my country Portugal the acess to AICN is a bit dicey as well.

  • July 8, 2011, 11:38 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    An american friend of mine was upset with PIRATES 4 because he thinks it underused Ian McShane. An understandable frustration.

  • July 8, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Will depend on whether Depp likes the script?>>

    by Avon

    So why the fuck did he do the last one? If he has an remaining integrity, he'll screw this franchise and make something like Ed Wood again.

  • July 8, 2011, 9 p.m. CST

    How many movies can you make from one ride?

    by Yelsaeb

  • July 8, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Besides, what are "good" movies, anyway? Damning Hollywood for...

    by Winston Smith

    ...Besides, what are "good" movies, anyway? Damning Hollywood for basing decisions on money is rather naive, at best. Granted, I do believe Hollywood could spend far less per film - i.e., cutting the waste by not caving to the demands of all these unions, particularly the labor ones (some of which have devolved into legalized versions of the mafia) that demand a king's ransom for driving a car or moving wires. That said, it takes money to make movies - good or not, depending upon the elements being judged - and, to get the movies out there for the most people to see, A LOT OF MONEY.

  • July 8, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    this site keeps deleting my comments

    by Winston Smith

    whenever i use quotes. it's a bug of major proportions. what the fuck, why is no one bitching about this? aicners bitch about everything under the sun, but not something as big as this? fuck it, i'm done with this site. at least until this bug is fixed. this is probably the most unprofessional moneymaking site on the entire web. if aicn took away the talkbacks, it literally would be a worthless page.

  • July 9, 2011, 2:34 a.m. CST

    On Stranger Tides- Tim Powers

    by batjac

    The thing is---On Stranger Tides--THE BOOK is a fantastic story. Tim Powers writes some great stuff. It's a shame they used only a fraction of the story. Maybe it will be filmed someday. Anubis Gates--another Powers book would be awesome to see someday as well

  • And stop being such a surrender monkey to the studios.