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Ben Foster in Ridley Scott's Prometheus?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. If Ridley Scott's Prometheus wasn't fascinating enough as a lead-in to Scott's own ALIEN the project just got a little more interesting.
JoBlo reports that Ben Foster has joined Michael Fassbender, Noomi Rapace, Idris Elba and Charlize Theron in the flick.
This story hits at the same time as Fox's official synopsis, what sounds like a response to the leaked and detailed rundown of the movie that hit yesterday. Fox says the leaked synopsis is way off, but their official synopsis just sounds like the extremely vague and non-spoilery version of the previous one, which to be completely honest fits more with the whispers I've been hearing over the last couple of months.
Fox says that the movie takes a team of explorers and scientists "on a thrilling journey that will test their physical and mental limits and strand them on a distant world where they will discover the answers to our most profound questions and to life's ultimate mystery."
I guess life's ultimate mystery is just what the hell a Space Jockey is. Who knew?
Seriously though, Ben Foster is great, that cast is great and Ridley Scott playing in the xenomorph sandbox again, no matter to what degree, is nothing but good news. Can't wait to start seeing how this one's looking. You?
-Quint
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July 1, 2011, 2:25 p.m. CST
Ben Foster in a great actor, I was already excited before his addition.
by Yurka
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just got better.
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July 1, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST
Foster really shined in The Messenger. Was WTF in
by openthepodbaydoorshal
Pandorum. He rises to the material, so we'll see.
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He's scarier than anything H.R Giger could come up with.
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i'd bet on Foster playing the dude who steals the Jockey's secret weapon or whatever...
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Why do these articles just assume we know who these actors are or what they've previously been in?
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Finally our black pride can rise as we first before the whitey, who wants to hold a brotha back! as said it before, as said it again, we already talen politic, sports, musics, and now first, all that left is hollywood. Tom Rothman, we comin' for YOU, nigga!
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He was already spotted on set a while back
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July 1, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST
For a second my memory was malfunctioning and I was thinking that the ship in Pandorum
by lv_426
was called Prometheus. I looked it up and now I see that it was called Elysium. I wonder if Prometheus gets sequels/spin-offs that they'll use other classical mythology names for the next films? Elysium might be interesting, that is if that Neill Blomkamp film weren't already using it as the title (Elysium would work as that leaked Prometheus synopsis mentioned a "paradise" planet). I could see them calling sequels something along the lines of Icarus or Daedalus (maybe humanity starts meddling with the "fire" that was stolen from the gods = space jockey/xenomorph DNA).
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July 1, 2011, 2:53 p.m. CST
The sequel will be called 'Xenomorph'...
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Gravy
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Ridley Scott playing in the xenomorph sandbox again, no matter to what degree, is nothing but good news
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July 1, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST
you're right turd, I think we figured this all out months ago in another TB
by lv_426
I suppose it is too much to ask for a third film in the Prometheus storyline. Maybe the Alien series is cursed after the second film? Alien (good) Aliens (good) Alien 3 (not so good) Alien Resurrection (a few good elements/scenes, but WTF were they thinking?) AvP (poop) AvP:R (horrible diarrhea) So if that cycle continues, then we might get two good films again: Prometheus (directed by Ridley Scott) Xenomorph (directed by Ridley Scott or James Cameron) Although, with the Avatar sequels and maybe then Battle Angel, I doubt Cameron will come back to the Alien series.
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This is a shittily constructed comments page. What I meant to say is: This would have been good news 20 years ago but Scott has long since lost any lightness of touch and sense of restraint and is now just a hack who should retire and stop embarassing himself and retrospecively tarnishing his fine body of work.
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July 1, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST
I can't stand Ben Foster in any movie he's been in
by Detective_Fingerling
save for that rom com with Dunst. And what the hell is up with him playing bad asses or soldiers? He doesn't have the look, nor the voice for such roles. Also, I thought he was signed on for this before Fassbender or Watts.
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That is all.
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July 1, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST
lv_426, a lot's riding on this film, to be honest...
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Gravy
If it is a success then it willl rejuvenate the alien universe/mythos, and we could get another rmovie out of it, or even a trilogy. Cameron might even be tempted to revive his abandoned ideas for Alien 5 or at least pass them to another director (perhaps Guillermo Del Toro) to direct while he supervises. If Prometheus flops, then the alien universe is really gone for good. It has had one too many nails hammered into it over the years.
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Shit, these are two guys who I will watch in ANYTHING, they're so damn good.
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just felt obligated to say that. anyway............ben foster is awesome, nice addition to an already solid cast. I'm anxiously awaiting a teaser or trailer for this film.
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I bet if Prometheus under performs to the point where a sequel or some sort of continuation of the Alien series is squashed, then I bet a few years later or maybe even a decade later we will get a remake or another reboot. As much as I bitched about the supposed Prometheus plot in the other thread, I surely don't want it to suck at all. But if Prometheus fails, then hopefully they will not do a remake of ALIEN. If they have to do something with it, then hopefully no more AvP but maybe a clever reboot could work. If they introduced all new characters who discovered the xenomorphs on a remote world and then the series took a different path from there... that could at least have a chance of being good. Although, I could see the Alien series getting a reboot or remake in 20 years time, kind of how Fox did with The Planet of the Apes franchise. There were a bunch of Apes sequels up through the late 1970's, then it just died. In 20 years time the Alien creature will maybe have been dormant long enough for it to be scary and unique again. That is if Prometheus doesn't succeed at revitalizing the franchise. Hopefully it will work and we'll all be excited for more Alien films in the near future.
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July 1, 2011, 4:17 p.m. CST
the one good thing about a reboot 10 -20 years from now
by fat_rancor_keeper
they could get alien 3 right
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I'm sure with this great cast this movie is gonna shine... But the black guy is gonna die first... just you wait. lol.
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I would hope that if they did a reboot of the series, that it wouldn't just be a rehash of the same exact plot of Alien, Aliens, etc... but taking certain elements and concepts of them. Maybe still having one alien in the first film, and hundreds in the second film like what we got with Alien and Aliens, but after that I think they'd have to go in a totally different direction. You're right though, Alien 3 would need to be better if they did a reboot. They wouldn't have to follow Alien 3's plot/concept of the prison planet, or even use the title Alien 3 at all. Maybe they'd actually have the balls to have the aliens get to Earth by the third film in a rebooted Alien Trilogy?
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July 1, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST
I'll bet you Ben Foster is the one who steals the bio-source-code!
by ganymede3010
He's always playing the shady characters in his movies.
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Sorry, he did. The movie kinda blew, too.
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Fosters one really odd miscasting was 3:10 to Yuma.
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Seriously though, this sounds like a fanboy wet dream. Aliens, Fassbender, Foster & woof Theron getting sweaty etc Sounding good
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I always heard it was a decent sci-fi movie. so i actually sat down one day off and watched it on my netflix and the ending to the story was very good. but i was a little confused because i thought the hallucination the captain was having was real seriously i truly thought it was another person... It's a good twist, i didnt see it coming...
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July 1, 2011, 6:25 p.m. CST
It's like a Barometer except it shows all the names of peolpe who have been banned or fallen under the BATTLE AXE of Harry the BAN-HAMMER Knowles.
by Darth_Kong
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July 1, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST
I want a Ban-O-Meter and Cameron directing the sequel to Prometheus and I want it NOW!!!!!!
by Darth_Kong
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And the movie sucked. That said, he had nothing to work with, so I can see why he sucked in it.
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FLOCKA!
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FLASH FORWARD, BITCHES! ... terrific actor, in all seriousness
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Despite a few films being underwhelming, he's always been a fave. Would like to see him at top form. Check out the final shot from one of his best films: http://finalshots.tumblr.com/
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Hello, Willem Dafoe is playing Tars Tarkus. Ben Foster in mo-cap doing a far-out alien with inscrutable goals who does horrible things to humans sounds like a great role.
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Wow, there's a lot of love for this guy in here. Don't forget his X-Men 3 performance as well.
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Alpha Omega, that movie about teens killing some dude. Foster proved what a great actor he is.
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FUCK HIM! and his 10 inch dick!
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He really seemed to be channeling those great Western character actors like Jack Elam. I honestly think he deserved an Oscar nomination for that.
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first ting I read in the comments. lol
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IMO Ben Foster and James Mangold both got robbed that year. That movie is way underrated.
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yeah, suck it, bitches!
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That band will never top Boogada Boogada Boogada!
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...its the underwear astronauts wear, duh!
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I think his real name is Ben Foster, but he goes by Ben Weasel as far as I remember. Screeching Weasel would be a great name for a smuggler/scoundrel's space ship, in the tradition of The Millennium Falcon and Serenity.
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I'm stoked that Ridley Scott is coming back to the universe that put him on the path to super-stardom, but the only thing that has me concerned is how big Prometheus is on paper. The cameras haven't even begun to roll and we're talking about a $200 million production. Alien was produced on a small budget and forced a young Scott--who I believe was working on his first feature length film--to be productive with what he was given. The sets alone on Alien appear to be worth the budget he had, and that was before casting, effects, filming, editting, etc. I can get picky with the acting and cite some lame deliveries of not particularly well-written dialogue, but as a whole, the performances were solid. It just seemed like he squeezed the most out of every penny to deliver to the world one of the most memorable theatrical experiences in the history of film. Now, Scott is coming back to this universe, but what does he have left to prove? He's achieved critical and commercial success with multiple films, recently had a string of films that have under-performed at the box office, many of those with large budgets. Personally, I think that he has grown lazy with his direction. He counts on people just checking in to see a Ridley Scott film based on his name and those of the big name actors that he casts in his films. Prometheus has startling similarities to those. Fassbender, Foster, Rapace, Elba... isn't that like a list of the who's who of geekdom right now? Throw in Charlize Theron and Guy Pearce to the mix and it all 'seems' super fascinating, but it fits into his trend to stick big names in the mix and cross the fingers for great things. I'm not a Ridley Scott pessimist, but I love the Alien universe that he created. Hopefully Scott is coming back to it for the right reasons: the universe is ripe for telling a story/stories that he is passionate about. With all of the gripe over how the xenomorph has been abused in film the past two decades, it would be easy for Scott to see this as an opportunity to cash in on our desire to see what could potentially be a quality film set in the playground he dreamed up by lining up the hottest talent around right now, filming an average film and taking advantage of audiences. I'm not exactly ready to say that I'm over the top excited about Prometheus, because I think I need a trailer to give some feel of that is going to happen in this film in order to get me there. But I'm crossing my fingers that it does.
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Cunt wait.
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When he says 'thankyou' after taking out the roomful of guys, cracks me up. Gives good psycho in 3:10 & 30 Days of Night too
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Wow! Could this be the best cast of Scott's entire career?
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Probably even better than the cast of MI 4.
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are already blue for this thing! Tops on my must see list already!!
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I think it's one of those films people who go in not expecting anything and let it unfold really enjoy However too many people have gone into it expecting it to be crap and pick it apart. Whenever I read or hear complaints, it's always into a realm of being way too picky, where they didn't go in undecided. They went in ready to pick apart and so spent the film complaining being a baby. I really liked it though and that's all that matters.
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It's a movie with a great pesime and sone damn fine ideas in it. All completly fucked up by the execution. It's as if the movie had been made under the auspices of Paul W.C. Anderson. Wait, that movie WAS PRODUCED by Paul W.C. Anderson. That explains it then why it so fails in the end. As all Paul W.C. Anderson movies, they are lesser then the sum of their parts. And he carries that kind of ineptitude to the movies he produces as well.
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I went to Pandorum not knowing what to expect. I loved the premise of the movie. I hated the execution and how it was dumbed down beyond all necessity. And what the fuck was with the editing of that movie? Who are the assclowns who made that moviewho think that editing it as if they were Michael Bay is a good thing? Assclowns! that's why i rather watch a much more even headed edited movie like CARGO. At least that movie is edited as if the filmmakers who made it actually take the movie they made seriously. Unlike the dudes who made PANDORUM. At least Antje Traue was hot.
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Maybe I'm confused. But humans and space jockeys cannot share the same time frame. Alien was set in whatever year? There's no mention of light speed travel. Look at their weapons on ship. Cattle prod and flame thrower. They find a ship with a fossilized being in the chair. So how far in the past did that happen? Thousands of years ago. This movie is suppose to take place 30 years prior to Nostromo. So Prometheus and crew should be 30 years more primitive. Which isn't much, but look at what things will be like in 2041 for us. Some pretty cool shit. But no light travel, no anti-matter shit, just faster computers and genetics, and toys..etc. So 30 years prior to Nostromo still leaves the space jockey fossilzied. If this movie has humans and space jockeys in it then whatever happened on the crashed ship will have nothing to do with humans. If they manage to tie the two together, alien ship and humans and say something retarded like "the space jockey hasn't been there for long, they deteriorate in a matter of years. They are designed that way, it just appears as if it is fossilized." Then that'll totally ruin it. The charm, mystery, creepiness of the alien ship is it's suppose to have been there for a very very very long time. Thousands of years. Ancient alien technology. Continued on a different post
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What can I say? I liked the fucking movie! It had great atmosphere. It featured every creepy idea you can have about being in outer space.
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July 2, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST
Let's also mention that Dennis Quaid was excellent.
by Huey_Freemans_afro
I'M OFFERING YOU THE KINGDOM!!
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So if humans and space jockeys share screen time together then it'll have to be present day (meaning movie time present day) without the aid of time travel. If this happens and the fossilized jockey is from eons ago then another fundamental mistake will probably be made. Will the present SJ be more advanced then the fossilized one? They should be. What technological species stays stagnant? Ok we're happy where we are, we're not going to try to advance any further. This was the #1 thing I fucking hated about SS War of the Worlds. They buried their technology eons ago, before we were even here. And they still use the same clunky machinery? That would be like the US military using horse and wagons to fight in Iraq. So if the SJ are scientists, which they are and are capable of some cool shit and the SJ in the chair is ancient then they better show some advancement when they interact with humans. This is why if they base the design of the more recent SJ from the design of the first Alien movie then that's wrong. If this prequel doesn't show man and SJ at the same time then it'll make more sense. If they use some type of flashback origin, alien meets SJ, then they jump up in time to Prometheus then that'll make more sense. Then it becomes another cat and mouse slasher flic, which was done in Alien. I just think forcing a prequel to have humans in it, when it shouldn't at all will change things about the first movie and ruin it. It should be just about alien meeting SJ and how it all came about.
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Saw it on DVD with zero expectations, and really enjoyed it. I'd put it on par with Pitch Black.
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I thought we were all talking about the actor who played Barnabas Collins in the cheesy early 90s Dark Shadows remake ("...wait...he wasn't in 3:10 to Yuma...") Holy fuck I think my brain is starting to die.
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I'm pretty sure Dallas says something like "it appears to be fossilised" when they see the space jockey, fossilised doesn't have to mean turned to stone like dinosaur fossils plus the space jockey looks more mummified to me and it still looks like there is fresh bones with rotten flesh on its face. As for the ship, LV426 is a very hostile planet with gale force winds etc, i doub't the ship would be in such good condition if it had been derelict for thousands of years, it probably would of wasted away long ago if it had been there that long. We also have to remember that the ship had holes in it meaning that the space jockey was exposed to the elements and whatever is in the atmosphere which we have no idea what effect it would have on a body over 30 years. The 'leaked' plot could work very well and the crashed space jockey ship can also work with the plot if you really think about it. Dallas and the others had no idea what they were looking at and had no experience with it, they were miners/cargo transporters.
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July 2, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST
This was the #1 thing I fucking hated about SS War of the Worlds. They buried their technology eons ago, before we were even here.
by Winston Smith
I agree, that kinda thing is a huge problem that is hard to ignore with suspension of disbelief. That pretty much made War of the Worlds bullshit... however, we have no idea how Prometheus will work, so I won't even begin to judge something like that until the movie comes out. And honestly, if WOTW 05 was just a balls to the wall holocaust alien invasion film, that "plot twist" probably wouldn't have bothered me as much.
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If the crashed space jockey ship had been there thousands of years, how the hell did the alien eggs last that long!, they would of died and decomposed eons ago!. Its obvious to me that the ship hadn't been there THAT long and the 30 year timeline will work just fine, for me anyway.
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My expectations were zero, and I was completely unimpressed with everything other than Dennis Quaid's performance and the neat story.
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...the fact that all of the characters are poorly written shaven lookalikes that make none of them worth any emotional investment (when you can even tell who's who). The dog-alien is also shit! Also, tossing everything Ripley worked so hard for at the end of Aliens was a bullshit slap to the face of all fans of said movie. Alien 4 should've been Ripley waking up from the horrible hypersleep dream that was Alien 3. I did like the twist of an egg being laid on the ship though though it seems they ould've done a thorough check of the ship before going to sleep don't you think? I could've seen Alien 3 instead being the ship returning to Earth with a live alien facehugger on board (unbeknownst to Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and Bishop) that gets to Earth and be the alien earth movie we all wanted to see. Alien 3 fucked the series and Alien 4 dropped the ball on the opportunity to rescue the series with an explanation that would have perfectly fit into the series (hypersleep nightmares).
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... sounds like Nazi aliens trying to take over the world! LOL! 80's "V" perhaps? On the note of the alien ships being buried on Earth, my question is why would they come all the way here, bury some shit, go all the way home, and then possibly millions of years later come back to invade but only after a vast civilization has formed that not only may try to resist but have made a big mess of the planet that was much more prestine on the last visit. Why not just invade then while there's nobody significant around? This never made any sense to me.
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July 2, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST
I thought Spielberg's WOTW was great other than the "twist" though...
by HB_Dad
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Well, perhaps the mist that reacts when broken is their version of hypersleep. I thought it was pretty cool and added to the mystery of the ship and the alien technology. It wasn't the alien species that designed the mist. So the SJs designed it. Changing the the SJ ship to a current time instead of being ancient is a bad move. And this whole thing stems from having humans in the storyline somewhere. Who wants to see a two hour movie just about the SJs and alien species, with no humans? I DO....I THE FUCK DO!!!! But there has to be humans in it. You need a celebrity in it to attract an audience. There needs to be protagonist in it. There has to be conflict, and a female to stir up the hormones, (like The Thing prequel crap is doing). The main character battling some personal problems. A human has to cry so the audience feels emotion, or be scared, to let the puppet audience know when to be scared. A human has to die so the audience feels the loss and the threat. Blah blah blah. Boo Hoo! I'm all for great characters and cool stories, but don't fucking ruin a classic story just to put humans in there. A lot of times if not done right it just becomes nonsense baggage. This whole story feels forced together when they shouldn't be. Just like AvP crap. They shouldn't be together. But you're right I don't know the exact story of the Alien prequel. but with humans and SJs sharing screen time, I smell plot holes. As for War of the Worlds. I wish is was balls to the walls invasion, instead of Tom Cruise vs Mars. And I wish is was "R" and not PG-13.War of any kind is not pretty and shouldn't be be sugar coated. I wish Cameron could of done an "R" version of WOTW.
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Pandorum could had had a great atmosphere to it... if the super-fast editing had allowed it. The assclowns responsible for the editing of that movie should be ass-flogged.
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The dude should had been bigger. He got this close to be the next Harrison Ford. He could had been a good Indiana Jones if Ford had given up the gig in the early 90s.
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A time will come when that movie will get it's proper dues.
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July 2, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST
the guy who was in 3:10 to Yuma? The one who looks sort of like the bug guy on "Bones"?
by ragingfluff
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He pretty much outshone Jason Statham whenever they shared the screen.
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What I love about the mystery that surrounds the derelict ship and the space jockey in Alien is that the way it was presented in the film so that the average viewer can make up their own conclusions. Some people say that it has been there thousands of years, while others say that it wouldn't have lasted that long, or as some of you say the eggs wouldn't still be alive if the ship were thousands of years old. The thing is, we don't know. We don't know what kind of tech and bio-tech the space jockeys were capable of and what the life expectancy of the eggs are. It was this nice little gift to the audience that sort of challenged them to come to their own conclusions. It has fueled debates amongst fans for decades. The problem I have with this prequel, is that it will take away all of that. I always loved the concept that the alien ship had been just sitting there, and along comes the Nostromo and the alien is there waiting for them. It added to the xenomorph's true nature. They can wait us out. Time and space, in the alien's mind are completely different from the wya humanity perceives it. They are not evil, but they are truly "alien" in all ways. That ship has been sitting there, wrecked for who knows how long. It doesn't matter if it is a hundred or a million years. It is the mystery that is the power of the space jockey and its ship. The truly terrifying thing is that it embodies the notion that we may stumble upon some truly horrible and dangerous things out in the universe. Add to that the Weyland Yutani Corporation and the fact that just by pure chance, due to a signal from the derelict and the Nostromo being in the wrong place at the wrong time (or the right place at the right time for the Company line) and the alien is unleashed. Yes, there have been cool ideas about what they really are. Maybe they're bio-weapons, maybe something else completely. The biomechanical horseshoe shaped alien derelict could have been merely carrying a ship full of specimens to be studied later on. I've even seen strange theories online of the xenomorph being a creature that evolved on massive starships, its biomechanical appearance due to it almost becoming or mimicking the tubes and pipes and overall industrial look that is possibly universal amongst interstellar vessels throughout known time, both for human and other extraterrestrial species' ships. The subtext of the Alien films is so deep, and so open to interpretation that it is just brilliant. A prequel, while it may be good, just shits all over the mystique of the xenomorphs and the space jockeys as two of the greatest and most enigmatic science fiction characters of all time. I'm not saying Prometheus will be a bad film. It is too early to judge that at this point in time. The truth is that if it follows the whole Chariots of the Gods type of storyline hinted by the supposed "leak" from a few days ago, it will definitely maim and possibly kill one of science fiction's greatest mysteries. So the question is, if Prometheus is good but kills the mystery of the Alien mythos, will that be a good or a bad thing for both the Alien series and its standing within the science fiction genre?
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It is open to interpretation. Perhaps SJs decay rapidly and take on the appearance of being fossilized. But me personally, I like it being there thousands of years. What happened a long time ago has a fun mystery to it. That something was buzzing around space before our modern time. I'm open to seeing the SJ's home planet, operating there giant ships, and how both the xenomorph and SJs came to be. I just don't want it to be in the same time line. It's to convenient. Don't forget that this movie if it takes place 30 years prior to Nostromo, will explore man's first contact with the xenomorph and maybe the SJs. Ash was sent on the Nostromo becasue man already new about the alien. I think this movie will clear that up but also disclose why the derelict ship ended up on LV426. But it is suppose to be far enough removed from the alien story, to be considered a new idea, so who knows. But like you said, disclosing to much will just put a giant shit stain on the mystique of it all. It will look totally cool in 3D though. I hope it's released in IMAX. They are filming it with the Red Epic 3D cameras. And don't forget one of the most important elements, the movie score. Jerry Goldsmith's score in Alien is haunting and isolating. It fits so perfectly. They need to match the atmosphere in the prequel.
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Such a cartoonish villain part. That's all Foster does.
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Now that Jerry Goldsmith is no longer with us, I wonder who will compose the score for Prometheus. John Williams? James Horner? Elliot Goldenthal? Danny Elfman? Howard Shore? James Newton Howard? Although, I'd bet that Horner and Goldenthal will be out as they'd already scored Alien films that were directed by other filmmakers. Besides going back to Goldsmith, which they can't, I doubt that a past Alien composer will be chosen. I honestly can't think of anyone specifically off the top of my head. Maybe Don Davis, who did the score for all of The Matrix films. He had a creepy type of sound underlying some of the pieces in those films. He also seems to be a composer that doesn't go straight for the obvious orchestral score that we end up with in so many films these days. Same with someone like Battlestar Galactica's Bear McCreary. As long as he made something appropriately creepy and in line with Ridley Scott's atmospheric visuals, I bet he'd come up with something pretty unique. I just don't want it to be an obvious choice like Hans Zimmer or something. Maybe Vangelis, since Ridley worked with him on Blade Runner? Although, Vangelis might not be dark enough for an Alien film.
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Either him or one of his hundred or so "pets". I don't think Scott has had a score written for one of his movies NOT by the Zimmer factory since G.I. Jane in 1997, and Trevor Jones' music for that film is virtually indistinguishable from the typical Zimmer "power chord' score. Too bad Scott pissed off Jerry Goldsmith so bad by butchering two of his best scores (Alien and Legend)...I would have KILLED to see a Goldsmith score attached to Gladiator. Hell, Scott tracked a Goldsmith cue from The 13th Warrior into Kingdom Of Heaven, and that little ninety-second piece was more rousing than ANY other piece of music in the entire film.
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You're probably right about Zimmer or one of his colleagues scoring Prometheus. I actually happen to like some of Zimmer's work. I thought he did a great score for Gladiator and Black Hawk Down, as well as his Batman and Inception scores. Up until his Inception style became the new formula for big budget movie and trailer music, it was a pretty good and unique score. I definitely don't want a xenomorph jumping out at me in 3D with the Zimmer BWAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! beating me over the head and blowing my eardrums out. Goldsmith's score to Alien was so nuanced and respectful to the atmosphere that Ridley Scott established in the first film. Even James Horner's more bombastic score for Aliens contained tons of low key atmospheric and ambient elements in it to pay respect to the horror roots of Alien.
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July 3, 2011, 12:10 a.m. CST
I keep getting this weird feeling that if the Space Jockey is a suit then maybe we'll see it "GROW" onto the creature inside it kinda like it grew onto the chair in ALIEN.
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST
Look, they have to do some cool BIOMECHANICAL CG animation so I bet there may be something bizarre along those lines.
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:22 a.m. CST
Honestly, I was happy with the assembled cast when I heard Rapace, Theron, and Fassbender. I don't care anymore about the others.
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:23 a.m. CST
I want to see leaked pics and concept drawings and in-depth descriptions of how this DARK BIOMECHANICAL TECHNOLOGY works.
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:25 a.m. CST
Oh, you say they cast Mr. Bean as a flight crew engineer on the spaceship Prometheus? DON'T CARE. I want pics.
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:34 a.m. CST
Seriously, I don't care if BEN FOLDS FIVE is in the picture. How does a BIOMECHANICAL PROPULSION SYSTEM work?
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:39 a.m. CST
I mean if we're giving away roles and cameos why not have the OLSEN TWINS running POWERLOADERS in the loading docks on Gateway Station?
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:42 a.m. CST
I can see it now. Mary-Kate wearing a headset like Vasquez, "What's that sir? You want a BRIGHT BOY with a 50 kilo-ton nominal yield? One silver bullet coming up!
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST
She's wearing combat fatigues with a HELLO KITTY logo on her shirt.
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:44 a.m. CST
Enough with the MEAT PUPPET news. Show some set pics or design drawings.
by Darth_Kong
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July 3, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST
In the tradition of AICN should I follow my rant with RIGHT?
by Darth_Kong
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Alien 3 score right now. Amazing,beautiful, somber, terrifying, etc and etc.
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presumingly if the leaked plot is the real one, when we get to the space jockey reveal and stuff related to him, we get some really fucked up biomechanical imagery from Giger, I mean, really really fucked stuff that will make people's heads explode - I'm just hoping it will shift to unexpected things. But that's just me.
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My feelings are that the CG is finally ready to animate Giger's Biomechanical designs. This has to be a set piece in the movie. I mean they have the technology to make it really creepy. What I hope we get is the Humans wearing some type of Battle Suit fighting the Nastiest Biomechanical Xenomorphs. That's what the fans want.
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I dont know why, but since some leaked pics shows that that's the route they're going I'm going to accept that.
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July 3, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST
In 3:10 to Yuma I could'nt buy him as Russel Crowes right hand man
by Turingtestee
The quasi-gay kid from 6 Feet Under? I can imagine Crowes disbelief.
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Two words. Giger farts.
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July 3, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST
I can see it now. Mary-Kate wearing a headset like Vasquez, "What's that sir? You want a BRIGHT BOY with a 50 kilo-ton nominal yield? One silver bullet coming up! She's wearing combat fatigues with a HELLO KITTY logo on her shirt.
by lv_426
Damn darth, I just started getting a boner. Actually though, this makes me think that if instead of the Olsen twins, change it to an anime with cute little anime chicks who work at a big old space station that is a port to the stars for all kinds of starships. These big-eyed anime girls would be both arms dealers for space-mercs and for shady interstellar military ops. While not trading in high tech futuristic arms, they'd freelance as alien bug hunters for remote and backwater colonies. I think it should be called it XenoGirls. Man, that would be awesome. Then when the time comes for the big budget live action Hollywood version, cast the Olsen twins, with the film being directed by the Wachowski brothers.
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July 3, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST
Oh, one last thing I almost forgot. Mary-Kate broke a nail while punching in the OUTER AIRLOCK code into the Power Loader key pad so yeah you guessed it, she called in sick to work today.
by lv_426
Nope, she had a job on an outer rim colony, cleaning out a bug nest. Can't pass up on that kind of dough when it comes along.
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July 3, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST
What I hope we get is the Humans wearing some type of Battle Suit fighting the Nastiest Biomechanical Xenomorphs. That's what the fans want.
by lv_426
Or for Hollywood to get off their asses and make SHADOW 19! Maybe the planet Erix is an ex-space jockey world were the terraforming was abandoned or was too much effort for it to be worthwhile? Or maybe the strange biomechanical lifeforms of Erix were some experimental designs that the jockeys were messing with? Maybe Erix is like the jockey version of Area 51? SHADOW 19 could be a sidequel to the ALIEN series.
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If you guys post spy pics then we won't work with you on other films including setting up free screenings and set visits blah blah blah.
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Yep, the TB form is still all messed up. For the last couple of weeks, every time I compose a comment that is more than a couple sentences long I right click COPY before I hit the "post" button.
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I know this may be left field but they should do a Tron and get some one from a dance group to do it. I know it will be a different film and require a different score but there are a lot of talented European composers that are doing dark or very textural dance music. Lindstrom (and Prins Thomas) - very competent, loves Vangelis so could be a plus and he is very rich sound. Andreas Trentmoller - does a lot of spacey sounds - listen to "moan" for a dark slow space induced nightmare. Alex Smoke - Does some nice orchestration - listen to Prima Materia for it - very filmic. Brendt Bauer Frick - glitchy sequenced and very textural. Before any one says EEEEUUUUWWWW dance music and Alien how can that work... Look for the Nostoromo record that was given out at the premier of ALien - it is a crazy disco record that samples Alien. Nostromo also did one for The Black Hole too that has a very good B side.
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The big deal is the human/mechanical interface; the rest of stuff is off the shelf hardware. To understand how it works, google 'nano neuro knitting' . The patents are already out, after Yu's 2006 breakthrough. Old stuff for true techies like me.
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it could almost be cool though. So I think one of those groups should remix the soundtrack and they could have an alternate version on the DVD. Hows that sound.
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Yeah, I hope we see the Space Jockeys interfacing with the craft or ships. Something way cooler and more involved than just the one we saw sitting in the pilot's chair of the derelict in ALIEN. It would be cool to see biomechanical tubes and wires grow into the head or hands of the Space Jockey. Or if they show nerve endings on their finger tips or palms. They can do something cool I just hope Ridley does it.
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Scores used to be orchestral, like a mini symphony, now they seem to be edging towards dance music. See the repetition and electronics of any Hams Zimmer score like Inception: Mombasa, or Bim Bam Smash in Bourne 2. Daft Punk in Tron was just the crystalisation of the last 5 to 10 or so years. The only problem is that they are behind in terms of the sounds they produce with the electronics (except for DP). I am not after a dance track but for the artists to be asked to do them as an actual score. They are fully fledged muscians not just bedroom boffins like a lot of DJs. They know their sounds, kit and composition. They would make a very good electronic score. Listen to "Mighty Girl" by Lindstrom - it has swelling piano and lifts up and down as if it is influenced by a filmscore. Moan has a mini-space movie to it already. "Prima Materia" could be by a modern classical composser if it wasnt fro the drums. Zimmer will be asked to do it and I think unless he manages to get back to some thing like Thin Red Line he will be too over bearing. Maybe James Newton Howard would be good. Maybe some one newish like Martin Phips would be good - he did a good low key score for Low Winter Sun, and has been doing biger films recently
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a short Mexican guy in a brightly colored silk outfit riding a space horse. Fact.
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July 3, 2011, 11:13 p.m. CST
The one thing I hope Ridley does is that he makes a whole bunch of different looking Space Jockeys.
by Darth_Kong
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The flick is going to be crap. Sounds like Star Trek V. Are we sure Roland Emmerich isn't working on this project?
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July 4, 2011, 3:02 a.m. CST
The thing I wanna know is what will the ship Prometheus look like? A flying saucer shape like in S19 or a diamond shape like the Narcissus?
by Darth_Kong
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July 4, 2011, 3:13 a.m. CST
Unless there's some twist where the Prometheus ship is built from reverse engineering biomechanical relics found somewhere.
by Darth_Kong
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July 4, 2011, 3:14 a.m. CST
Or humans find the Prometheus and it turns out to be a type of biomechanical ship for terraforming.
by Darth_Kong
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July 4, 2011, 3:15 a.m. CST
Once we activate it the Space Jockeys see the warping of space-time signature from the ship's propulsion system and war begins or something.
by Darth_Kong
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July 4, 2011, 3:41 a.m. CST
ONE THING I WISH THEY WOULD ADAPT FROM THE SHADOW 19 SCRIPT...
by Darth_Kong
If you've read the Shadow 19 script you can follow. To fit in the Alien Mythology or Universe or whatever you want to call it. It would be interesting if the Space Jockey's built the Prometheus ship and the Lang Transporter and had mastered the whole concept of Super Position where they send copies or shadows to other planets or places. Except in this case the Space Jockeys are from another Universe or Dimension so maybe they have to use a Lang Transporter to get to our universe. Maybe that's the only way. Humans find their technology and they want it back. Basically I'm saying it would be interesting to use all those cool physics and science ideas from the Shadow 19 script but have they Space Jockeys be the characters who build the Prometheus ship and the Lang Transporter but from a story stand point humans find or stumble upon their EXOTIC TECHNOLOGY. There is no excuse for Ridley and these guys to come up with killer ideas for this movie. There is no reason they should fail.
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July 4, 2011, 3:43 a.m. CST
What if the Space Jockey in the pilots chair of the derelict ship is a SHADOW like from the Shadow 19 script?
by Darth_Kong
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July 4, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST
I WORRY THAT SPACE JOCKEY IS GOING TO LOSE THE MYSTIQUE THAT HAS MADE IT ONE OF THE COOLEST MYSTERIES IN CINEMATIC HISTORY
by the Green Gargantua
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July 4, 2011, 8:38 p.m. CST
If they do it right the Space Jockey won't lose any of it's mystique. If anything they can add to it.
by Darth_Kong
They can explain a little of how the technology works in the Derelict and the Pilot's Chair and maybe where or when the Space Jockeys are from and it can add to the mystery. It doesn't have to be a Star Wars Jar Jar Binks scenario. Again it doesn't have to be. It's all in the writing and execution of principal photography.
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July 4, 2011, 8:44 p.m. CST
I definitely agree with all the fans concerning how this will turn out. It will be either Magnificent or Podunk. I don't think there will be much in between.
by Darth_Kong
Fingers crossed.
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What planet do the scientists or humans get stranded on? Something similar to ERIX from the Shadow 19 script? How many people are stranded there? Is this where they meet the Space Jockeys? How do they get to this planet? On the ship Prometheus? If so what happens to the ship Prometheus? Is it destroyed or is it a scenario similar to the Lang Transporter in the Shadow 19 script where the humans are transported there using the principle of super position?
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July 4, 2011, 9:38 p.m. CST
Sometimes when I post here I feel like Leslie Nielsen from the Naked Gun movie where he's narrating while walking...
by Darth_Kong
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If you've never seen him, check out "Alpha Dog" or "3:10 to Yuma." He's good.
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I just recently reread the script, and hot damn, why hasn't somebody in Hollywood made this thing yet? Especially after Avatar, I am shocked that it hasn't been dusted off by someone. I suppose that could mean that Ridley is using elements of it, but then again I think Warner Bros. bought Shadow 19 back in the early 2000's as a possible big budget Keanu Reeves project. I think if a talented and proven genre filmmaker announced that they were making Shadow 19, I'd be more excited about that than Prometheus. The alien world stuff in Shadow 19 is really cool and unique. While it is vaguely, no scratch that... sparsely described, it just really ignites the imagination. I think Spaihts didn't want to over-describe things so as to not scare off producers and execs by confusing them, and also so that a talented director and conceptual design crew were not be boxed in and had the freedom to run wild creating and interpreting what all the strange flora and fauna of Erix would look like. I think at this point, Shadow 19 might be the closest thing I've seen passed around Hollywood that has a chance of giving us Alien franchise fans a true spiritual successor to Cameron's Aliens (military sci-fi with high tech armored humans fighting nasty aliens on an exotic world). The other cool thing about Shadow 19 is the way its narrative has elements modeled on video games. It would actually be one case were a big budget movie really needed a good video game tie-in to compliment the film.* * I am thinking it would be sort of a really challenging strategic single-player FPS game where you could choose to jump in and most likely die, or try an overhead view first to plan your strategy (similar to the satellite views that Vance uses to review past attempts at getting to the crawler), before going back into FPS mode as another "Shadow". You'd have to gain points by kills and by exploration of Erix. If the player explores Erix (the less hostile areas at least) they could gather useful info for the scientists back on Earth, and in turn the scientists would develop new weapons for the player or let the player go to the Proving Grounds to get some of the latest and greatest military tech. This is different than the script, but it would really work well in a game I think.
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Then Spaihts should pull that sucker out of a drawer or off his hard drive and adapt it to a novel or a video game.
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July 5, 2011, midnight CST
lv_426 I get the feeling they are using stuff from Shadow 19...
by Darth_Kong
I am probably wrong but I think this because Spaihts is given writing credit and I think they've confirmed that Prometheus is indeed a ship like in Shadow 19. To me it sounds like Ridley was waiting for something to come along and maybe he mixed together story ideas pertaining to a Space Jockey Origin story, stuff from the Shadow 19 script, and story elements from The Forever War. He got the materials together he liked and had a writer design the story to fit his needs and wants for what he wanted to do. So maybe we will get Shadow 19 just not the way we expected.
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As much as I love the Shadow 19 script on its own it would never get made. I rarely say never but it reads big budget and I can't see any studio backing it for a variety of reasons. Mainly because it NEEDS to be hardcore science fiction and I think that financial commitment might scare a studio off. They might say this has all been done before so we're not interested in it which I wouldn't agree with. I think a lot of the ideas are fresh and exciting. But I could be wrong. But if Ridley say in theory found a way to purchase the rights to the script and kept it secret then I could see him pulling out the juicy parts he liked for his own movie. I guess come 2012 we'll find out if anything from Shadow 19 made its way into Prometheus.
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July 5, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST
What I wish would happen with the ship Prometheus is that the humans find a piece of Space Jockey technology and build the ship around it calling it Prometheus...
by Darth_Kong
What if the human scientists find a piece of Space Jockey technology that is the equivalent of the Lang transporter from the Shadow 19 script. They can't perfectly reverse or copy engineer it so the just decide to use it by building a starship or military vessel around the Space Jockey technology. That might give the Space Jockeys a legitimized reason for wanting back something that they may have lost and is now being used against their wishes. They might not want humans to be able to transverse the universe as fast as they do.
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I doubt he's going to "borrow" much from that novel... if any. David Webb Peoples (Blade Runner) is writing the script. I'm more excited about that project than Prometheus.
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July 5, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST
Ben Foster in an Alien movie? hmmm someone saw him in the Pandorum
by KilliK
Alien-rip off me thinks.
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July 5, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST
http://www.alienprequelnews.com/2011/07/exclusive-more-photos-from-prometheus.html
by Darth_Kong
http://www.alienprequelnews.com/2011/07/exclusive-more-photos-from-prometheus.html
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July 5, 2011, 8:49 p.m. CST
http://geektyrant.com/news/2011/7/5/new-photos-from-the-set-of-prometheus.html
by REDD
http://geektyrant.com/news/2011/7/5/new-photos-from-the-set-of-prometheus.html
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