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So What's Up With the TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON Score CD?

Published at: July 1, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

Greetings! ScoreKeeper here to shed some light on a question I've been asked a lot this week. Originally the TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON (2011) score CD was scheduled to be released already but several delays and an apparent unavailable notice on retail outlets have left a lot of fans in the dark.

@MousePadWiiGii just alerted me to a web site which seems to have the answer straight from the composer himself.

Christopher Knight wrote to Steve Jablonsky about the situation with the score release CD and received this reply:

Hi Chris

Nice to hear from you. As you probably know the score is now up on iTunes. The physical CD situation has been more complicated. I finished the album weeks ago, but we didn't actually finalize it until a few days ago. Michael Bay is really happy with the score and he wanted to check out the album before it went out. As you might imagine, he's a busy dude. He's been flying all over the world promoting TF3, making it difficult to get approval. But I was happy that he wanted to be a part of the soundtrack and I did not want to release anything before he had his say. The record company tells me they need 4-6 weeks to get the album produced and into stores, which would put us into August at this point. A lot of discussion went into this, but the decision was made to wait on the physical CD, and release some kind of special edition alongside the blu-ray release (maybe autographed copies or other goodies, we don't know yet).

I know people are probably disappointed. Believe me I wish I could get physical CD's out there tomorrow. But it's just the way things went this time around. I can see why Paramount would rather not release a score CD almost 2 months after the movie release. To them it makes more sense to do something special around the blu-ray/DVD. I understand that.

So anyone interested in a CD should rest assured that it WILL happen. It just won't happen until later in the year unfortunately.

These big movies are so complex sometimes!! I hope you've been well!

Steve

 

For everyone who was asking about it that seems like a satisfactory answer. Check out Chris' blog "The Knight Shift" for full article.

 

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  • July 1, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Fascinating

    by NuteG

  • July 1, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Umm.

    by ShogunMaster

    What's a cd?

  • July 1, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    But the whole score was just

    by Tom

    BWAAAAAAAAAH..... BWAAAAAAAAAH..... BWAAAAAAAAAH..... Don't get me wrong, it worked in the movie, that sort of bass-laden distorted klaxon. It worked perfectly for the tone of the movie. But...that was it pretty much. That's gonna be the whole score.

  • July 1, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Film music, as an art form, is dying

    by Dursman2000

    Nearly every film has the same formulaic, percussive, non-thematic score. It's hard to even qualify a lot of it is music -- some of it is just noise. We have entered into the abyss and we're not coming out of it...once guys like Williams (who hardly works anymore), Horner, etc. disappear, we'll be left with hacks like Giacchino, Jablonsky, and the Gregson-Williamses. No wonder why nobody cares anymore.

  • July 1, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    The music from the trailer is amazing.

    by blackwood

    I don't remember much of the in-film music, so I guess it was okay. But the trailer music was awesome.

  • July 1, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Why were those Decepticons buried on the moon?

    by whatevillurks

  • July 1, 2011, 1:34 p.m. CST

    So it's Bay's fault

    by photoboy

    So basically Bay couldn't find 30 minutes while flying on planes all over the world to promote his shit film to put some headphones on and listen to a few music tracks. Lazy fucker.

  • July 1, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Yeah, why the fuck were those Deceptions buried on the Moon?

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Goddamn, so little of that movie made sense. People have praised Bay's use of cinematic geography in the action scenes, but the logistics and strategy are complete shit.

  • July 1, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST

    three SK threads in as many days!!

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!

  • July 1, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    @Dursman2000

    by Jon Voights Ballsack

    While I won't disagree on Jablonsky or Gregson-Williams, I don't think Giacchino belongs in that grouping. His score to Star Trek was pretty solid, as was the Williams-inspired Super 8. But I really think you have to look at some of his Pixar work - Ratatouille, The Incredibles and Up all had pretty damn remarkable scores. He even did some pretty good stuff for Lost (not all of it, but the good certainly outweighs the bad). And more importantly, those scores all have pretty unique themes - unlike Horner, where people bought the score to Avatar because Willow was out of print...

  • Not to mention it's a brutal rip-off of the whole Inception BBBBAAAAAHHHHHNNNNHHHHH sound that Clash of the Titans and lots of others kinda stole too.

  • July 1, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    itunes baby,Whats a Cd

    by Gazzault

    Yea, well I just downloaded it on Itunes, CD is just soooo last week, and so is this post

  • July 1, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST

    The only thing sadder than a Transformer fan...

    by matthooper8

    ...is a Transformer music score fan. At that point I think it's time to get a hooker and finally lose your virginity and move out of your parents basement.

  • July 1, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST

    SOME other movies actually have "music"...

    by Larrythefatcat

    Well, I have to agree that the majority of movies these days don't have discernable themes or even what most people would call "music" for their soundtracks/scores... I do have side with Giacchino being much above most movie composers of late. There aren't a whole lot of other active composers that have music I remember and his stuff from "Lost" and the non-Randy Newman composed Pixar films (especially "The Incredibles" and "Up") is just superb. Another composer who can surprise me at times is David Arnold... but I guess you could probably lump him in there with the hacks, too. He's pretty hit or miss. I'm mostly just glad that we'll have two more Howard Shore scores coming up with the "Hobbit" movies... I can't wait! That guy doesn't "fake the funk on a nasty dunk"!! ;)

  • July 1, 2011, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Christopher Knight here...

    by KnightShift

    Welcome all who are making their way this afternoon to my humble lil' blog :-)

  • July 1, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST

    knightshift, quick questions:

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    You have any industry juice? If so, could you get someone to get John Powell to write a new score for LADYHAWKE?

  • July 1, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST

    did scorekeeper just find his laptop or something?

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    dude hasn't posted in week and all of a sudden in the last few days he's posted like 5 stories... ironic though that still no one cares

  • July 1, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST

    also knightshift...

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    imma gonna take a run at your ex Adrienne Curry. Shes nuts but mighty tasty looking and begging to be Chopped with all those Twitpics she gives me. Wish me luck.

  • July 1, 2011, 2:06 p.m. CST

    the_choppah

    by KnightShift

    I'm just a man with a blog. And trying to hack it as an independent filmmaker (among other things). Wish I could tell you that I've got pull in the industry but Lord willing, that's yet to come :-)

  • July 1, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    @blackwood totally agree

    by sunwukong86

    I have no interest in seeing the movie but the trailer music is great.

  • July 1, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Giacchino a hack?

    by HughJass

    Guess you didn't hear his score for Up.

  • July 1, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST

    @Goldentribe

    by Jon Voights Ballsack

    Hey, I liked the Inception score as well (though I hate the way Zimmer scores aren't in any sort of linear order on the OST) but you really can't accuse Ramin Djawadi of ripping off a score to a movie that didn't come out for another three months.

  • Anyone? Hello? Is this mic on?

  • July 1, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST

    knightshift

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    No excuse.

  • July 1, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST

    hughjass - I heard the score to "Up" eight years prior to it's realease.

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Back then it was called "Sex And Lucia" and Alberto Iglesias was credited with compsing it. http://emonome.com/film/film-music-up-vs-sex-lucia/ Hack!

  • July 1, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    WTF? Steve Jablonsky is awesome...

    by Norman Colson

    At the end titles of the credits of transformers 3, that's who's name popped up for music... That guy kicks ass... have you heard the Armored Prayer track from gears of war 2??? I rest my case...

  • I prefer a more intimate setting in which to appreciate the many attributes of Selena Gomez. And Giacchino just won't cut it, I like to light some candles, drop a needle on some Sade... Uhrmm, I mean... she's a very talented actress! But I'll be spending my dough with Jablonsky to witness the majesty that is Bay once more.

  • July 1, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    jon voights ballsack - Wait, strike that. Reverse it!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Giacchino has done "unique themes"? When? I mean I don't hate Giacchino, but "unique" is about the last thing that he is. "Lost" is Giacchino's lasting lagacy and the most "unique" thing he's ever done and even it is taking a ton of inspiration from Jerry Goldsmith's "Planet of The Apes" coupled with Thomas Newman/Alan Silvestri's approach to minimalist piano. Only when something sounds like "Lost" do people say; hey that sounds like Michael Giacchino! Other than that he has no discernable attributes as an artist. "Incredibles" = John Barry. "M:I-3" = Lalo Schifrin (as did Alias). "Ratatouille" = Carl Stalling meets Henry Mancini by way of Georges Delerue. "Cloverfield" = Akira Ifukube. "Star Trek" = Goldsmith-lite meets "Lost". "Up" = plagiarism of Alberto Iglesias' "Sex & Lucia" for which Giacchino was rewarded an Oscar! "Let Me In" = totally inept (guess Giacchino couldn't find a proper composer to copy for that one). "Super 8" = trying and failing to replicate the wonderment of the Williams/Goldsmith/Horner/Silvestri/Broughton Amblin efforts. "Cars 2" = Henry Mancini/Burt Bacharach. If anything I'd definately put Harry Gregson-Williams far above Giacchino. Call me when Giacchino has done anything as original, great or influential as Harry Gregson Williams' "The Whole Wide World", "The Rock", "Spy Game", "The Rundown", "Man On Fire" or "Kingdom Of Heaven". For that matter Jablonsky's "Island" theme alone is more memorable than anything found in Giacchino's feature work. This is not to dismiss Giacchino's talent, I actually like him a fair amount, but more of an implorement for everyone to get off this dude's sack. He's not John Williams and he never will be.

  • July 1, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Seriously, thanks for the update, Scorekeeper

    by Edited_Out

    I hope you can wade through all the negativity and immaturity that is this talkback to find that there are those of us who really, really appreciate these updates. I love the Transformers score CD's and was indeed wondering what the situation was with #3. Thank you for all that you do, and keep up the great, great work.

  • July 1, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    'The Machinist' by Roque Banos

    by SmokingRobot

    Just go buy the damn thing. It's amazing.

  • July 1, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    cant wait to hear it on Cinemagic

    by Arcadian Del Sol

  • July 1, 2011, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Wait... im confused.

    by Norman Colson

    According to amazon... the track listing is all rock groups and whatnot? WTF, i want the movie score, not some bullshit rock mixtape CD!!! the fuck is going on here!!!

  • July 1, 2011, 6:45 p.m. CST

    I was wondering why it wasn't released!

    by jwhj2007

    Not so much because I'm dying to hear it, but because its release day kept changing and I thought it was weird.

  • July 1, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Got it on iTunes already...

    by AttackingClone

    and wondering why it doesn't have the bit used as the Decepticons are first attacking Chicago??? That was some great music! Just lay into me TBers, I can take it, I liked the music, let me have it.

  • July 1, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST

    edited_out. - Agreed, good looking out Scorekeeper!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

  • July 1, 2011, 7:51 p.m. CST

    attackingclone - Hopfully it'll appear on the "Special Edition" CD Release.

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Since they're planning on holding out until the blue-ray/DVD is released before putting out a physical CD anyway, perhaps they'll utilise that intervening time to assemble a double CD complete score or something. Hope so.

  • July 1, 2011, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Hans Zimmer and his "pets" have RUINED FILM MUSIC FOREVER

    by Nasty In The Pasty

  • July 1, 2011, 8:53 p.m. CST

    matthooper8

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Ooooo, the "parent's basement" insult! How original.

  • July 1, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST

    OZZY!! OZZY!! OZZY!!

    by thelordofhell

    Yaaayyyy.....yeah...Dark of the Moon

  • July 1, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST

    I was happy that he wanted to be a part of the soundtrack

    by Scott

    Yeah, the fuck you were.

  • July 1, 2011, 10:01 p.m. CST

    @the_genteel_gentile

    by Jon Voights Ballsack

    After that post, it's only appropriate that I attack back with... shit, y'know what? I can't possibly come back on that. I don't necessarily agree with you on some of your comparisons, but I certainly can't put my hands over my ears and say you're wrong. I do have to take you to task, however, on the whole "guess you'll all be going to see Monte Carlo this weekend" bullshit. I looked up your boy Jablonsky on IMDB and see that he's also known for "Desperate Housewives." I think we can both agree that composers gotta get paid one way or the other.

  • July 2, 2011, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Hmm

    by catlettuce4

    All I will say is I can't remember the last time I heard a really great movie score.

  • July 2, 2011, 6:07 a.m. CST

    Sound quality

    by thommcg

    Until iTunes, Amazon,etc. offer LOSELESS 16-Bit, 44.1kHz recordings that's why I'll seek out CDs or at least FLAC encodings of same.

  • July 2, 2011, 9:46 a.m. CST

    LOL so you're not gonna listen to it and wait for a CD? HAHAHA

    by doom master

    Stop being a baby and go buy it online...Cds are becoming an outdated media platform for music, so get with the program. if not and you'd rather sit tight and wait for a frisbee, go right ahead. Your loss. The music is good and actuallly fits well with Inception and the other transformers scores.

  • July 2, 2011, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Hans Zimmer's Company

    by doom master

    I will admit he created a revolutionary method/business for mass-producing movie scores in an economic fashion, but I agree its becoming much the same old thing when all of his employees are all making music the same way Zimmer does. Still, movie producers are eating it up, as are the audience....This wont change until the public stops watching crap movies and demands more creativity.

  • Those were the only scores i could notice not only themes and leitmotifs, but which the movie was actually good and listenable even outside their respective movies, as work of their own. TRUE GRIT's and X-MEN: FIRST CLASS scores were also sweet. The rest? Hell if i can recall the other movies even ahd music in them. Some dude above said that scoring as an art is dying. Unfortunatly I agree.

  • ACtually, one of the most constant criticisms he had gotten since day one is that the geography of his action scenes make no sense whatsoever. It used to be because of his stupid editing style, now it's because he can't just give a fuck anymore.

  • July 2, 2011, 10:21 a.m. CST

    the_choppah

    by AsimovLives

    "three SK threads in as many days!!" Not suspicious at all. No sir!

  • And his score for Abrams Trek is as terrible and dumb as the movie itself. The onyl score that the Guachini ass ever done well was for THE INCREDIBLES, which is in fact a who,e completer paastiche job from John Barry's James Bond scores. So there we have it. The Guachini assclown is not talented, only an over-rated clown with great publicity. Just like his ass-boss JJ Abrams.

  • I enjoy a lot of Hans Zimemr's work. Some of his scores are fantastic works, like INCEPTION and THE THIN RED LINE, the later which i would even call a masterpiece. But it's like today 80% of the Holywood movie scores all sound the fucking same. Small wonder, becasue the majority of the film scores made today came from Zimmer's pets. It's so anoying! Music scores was one of the reasons i would love a movie. It seems today i have to like a movie DESPISTE the music score.

  • July 2, 2011, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Pastiche does not mean lack of talent

    by cushing1967

    I mean, and I don't want to get into a huge discussion about it really but being able to pastiche many different styles shows that he has at least enough musical talent to be able to compose to different styles and different genres. If he lacked talent in anyway then he would be totally unable to create different sounds for most of the films and games he has scored.

  • July 2, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Its a really bad film.

    by Fortunesfool

    3D made everything look like little toys and models. Screenplay was utter dirge. Rosie Wooden-Keira Knightley was nails on a blackboard annoying. It was utterly boring and unfunny from start to finish. When it did pick up a bit towards the end it was all stop start set pieces and the tonal shifts were terrible - from Autobots getting murdered to slapstick comedy in the space of one scene. Apart form that, it was crap.

  • July 2, 2011, 10:48 a.m. CST

    cushing1967

    by AsimovLives

    You know what's real talent? Coming with stuff of yor own. That's talent. I'm so sick and tired of you AICNers always finsing excuses to justify your favorite hackboys who are only known and beloved by you not becauseof their talent, which they haven't, but because of their publicity machine. Sick and tired! But not defeate. Michael Guachini is talented? Piss and shit!

  • July 2, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Asimov - really?

    by cushing1967

    You decide to go on the offensive with my comment that pastiche can't show sign of talent? I didn't say anything to you in an argumentative tone and yet you reply with the usual piss and vinegar. Wow! As it goes, I am not a huge fanboy of Giachinno - my favourite film composers are Herrmann, Rozsa, Bernstein, Schifrin, Goldsmith, Barry, Shore - I like early Horner and I like early Elfman to a point and I think that John Williams has his moments. Out of the 'new' composers I really like Desplat and Banos. However I think that Giacchino does what he's hired to do and does it with a little more flair than the Zimmer Factory does. I All I was saying was that pastiche and being able to pastiche things well is not a sign of no talent. Famous and undeniably great pastiche's include Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Bohemian Rhapsody, The Holburg Suite by Greig, Star Trek The Original Series. While it is true that Giachinno may not have seemingly developed a style of his own - perhaps the current studio climates don't allow that in composers? Apparently Silvestri was hired to score Pirates of the Caribbean but was replaced by the Zimmer factory. I'm not making excuses - I'm participating in discussion and I have absolutely no interest in defeating you as it's not a competition.

  • ...than 99% of what passes for "music" these days. Remember, John Williams' Star Wars was just a pastiche of Erich Wolfgang Korngold, Holst, and many other inspirations (written at a time when the traditional orchestral film score was at one of its lowest ebbs). That doesn't make it bad music. Something tells me if a HUGELY popular film were released with a rousing, theme-driven orchestral score, audiences lulled to sleep by the keyboard droning of Zimmer and his various clones would wake up and take notice. Or at least that's a dream of mine.

  • July 2, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    nasty in the pasty

    by AsimovLives

    I'm not oblivious to John Willaims influences. But Williams did more in his film career then just be a pastiche man to his inspirations. The Guachini guy, without his pastiches he's nothingl A null void of talent, just like his ass-buddy JJ Abrams.

  • July 2, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    cushing1967

    by AsimovLives

    We are cool. Thanks for your post. And sorry if i snapped at you, undeservedly. I'm really fed up with the usual AICN talkbackers who keep pilling sorry excuses to support the in-fashion hack of the moment. That explains my burst, though it doesn't excuses it. Appologises, friend.

  • July 2, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Asi

    by cushing1967

    No apologies necessary though I appreciate the gesture. Thank you

  • July 2, 2011, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Hit-manufacture = PAR opened TF3 on 9,300 screens

    by justmyluck

    Friday's take was $32.9M, so that's $3,500 avg. per screen, divided by three screenings a day, $1,200 avg. per screening, divided by, oh, $12 avg. per ticket maybe (MORE for 3D & IMAX), 100 people avg. per screening, tops. That's sort of a meh take for a big distribution push, isn't it? But that's how you guarantee a big opening weekend and insta-hit-status: have the distribution clout to push your product everywhere like cases of Coca-Cola. The media then prints the big numbers like grail in the hopes hype will give it legs...Einstein stuff, isn't it? http://www.imdb.com/news/ni12382167/

  • Don Davis gave the first one a very non-melodic score full of unorthodox percussion and his collaboration with Juno Reactor for the sequels was at the vanguard of a nascent trend if not outright leading the pack. I've liked lots of scores since then (Inception, Avatar, How to Train Your Dragon, etc etc) but the ones I actually choose to LISTEN to while at my computer mostly predate the last few years (which is not to say they're all or even mostly 'vintage'): Jurassic Park, Edward Scissorhands, lots of misc Ennio Morricone, Silence of the Lambs, Signs, Fellowship of the Ring, Koyaanisqatsi, House of Flying Daggers, Shakespeare in Love. I have to admit I love Hans Zimmer's work on Mission Impossible 2. It's a score I return to frequently. Other than that, I mostly just like his 90s-era main themes (The Rock, Peacemaker, Broken Arrow, etc.) and find the rest of the soundtracks disposable.

  • It's also a great high-budget miniseries featuring Sam Neill, Martin Short, Miranda Richardson, Helena Bonham Carter, Isabella Rossellini, Rutger Hauer, John Gielgud, and the voice of James Earl Jones. And the music is worthy of the cast.

  • July 2, 2011, 4:40 p.m. CST

    cushing1967

    by AsimovLives

    Quite gentlemanly of you. I shouldn't be suprised, given your nick, as a reference to Peter Cushing, who, by all accounts, was gentlemanship personified.

  • July 2, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST

    The score of THE ROCK is a piece of shit!

    by AsimovLives

    Full of that trademark Jerry Fuckheimer/Michael Bayass pussy-ass faggotry crappitude that makes all their movies even harder to endure then they already are. What an abortion of a fucking piece of shit crap that The Rock score is!! Fuck it up it's fucking ass! What's next? People praising the score of ARMAGEDDON?

  • The man has not been given his dues.

  • July 2, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Film music, as an art form, is dying

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    I agree. A few films here and there still have great, original scores, but it seems more rare nowadays.

  • July 2, 2011, 7 p.m. CST

    too bad the movie couldn't be "delayed" as well

    by abe

  • July 2, 2011, 7:26 p.m. CST

    so you cant use quotes in the title

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    but you can in the comment area

  • July 2, 2011, 7:26 p.m. CST

    quotes just arent working?

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    why not? "test" erm

  • July 3, 2011, 12:33 a.m. CST

    I hear the score for this almost everyday

    by Xen11

    when I'm taking a shit.

  • July 3, 2011, 7:09 a.m. CST

    winona_ryders_pussy_juice

    by AsimovLives

    The trick in the titles, it seems, is to worte the commas, then put a space, then wriote your text, then put a space, then finally put the commas. It works that way. Try it, please.

  • July 3, 2011, 7:10 a.m. CST

    test

    by AsimovLives

  • July 3, 2011, 7:10 a.m. CST

    opa

    by AsimovLives

  • July 3, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Recycled music as well as footage?

    by Mutley26

    Yeah we all remember the 80's cartoon reusing stock sounds of the era (Tie-Fighters, Battlestar Galactica's blasters and Star Trek doors), but does this score re-use any work from Bay's or the composer's previous work's a'la Bay's re-use of digital scenes in T3 from his other films? http://www.dailymail.co.uk /news/article-2010714/Transformers-3-Did-Michael-Bay-recycle-footage-The-Island.html

  • July 4, 2011, 4:12 a.m. CST

    money money money money

    by KilliK

    that's what is all fucking about.

  • July 4, 2011, 6:18 a.m. CST

    What? The Rock soundtrack is a piece of shit???

    by Sanyi

    Hell noo!! The Rock's music is freakin' awesome! In my opinion.

  • July 4, 2011, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Rubbish score anyway

    by Candy ass monkey suit

    Very average score anyway. I havent heard a decent movie score since Inception last year. Steve jablonsky is a very mediocre film composer. the days of the greats are long gone - Goldsmith,Bernstein, Barry etc. Only williams is still around from the classic composers.

  • July 4, 2011, 4:50 p.m. CST

    soundtracks shouldn't even be talked about...

    by presidentevil

    unless they are amazing or really bad and out of place, and who the fuck buys a soundtrack anyways..."BOB: hey Mike...why dont you come over this friday night,have a few beers and we can listen to this new transformers soundtrack!" or even CHARLOTTE: OoOoo Bob...put on that new transformers soundtrack...it really makes my panties wet!"

  • News for you, smart guy: James Horner has always been one of the biggest hacks in film music. Wrath of Khan was ultra-derivative, and Aliens' music for the opening scene (drifting space pod) rather blatantly ripped off Khatchaturian's Gayane adagio. Go to YouTube and search for "James Horner Sounds Awfully Familiar." Listen and learn. The pre-Zimmer age was all about Jerry Goldsmith and John Williams. Thanks to Spielberg and Lucas, everyone knows how amazing Williams was (I would say "is," but he doesn't work much anymore, and when he does he's just a shadow of his 1970s - 1990s self), but Goldsmith is revered as a master only in aficionado circles (and he was, in fact, at least as good as Williams, maybe superior). While no one but no one did romanticism better than the mighty Williams (who is quite deservedly a legend in his own time), Goldsmith is certainly the most creative of the last three generations of soundtrack composers. In addition to writing some of the best romanticist music in all of film (check out his "Ilia's Theme" overture for the first Star Trek movie, and the love theme for Chinatown), he had a penchant like no other for doing weird stuff too, and movies like Alien, the Omen trilogy, Planet of the Apes, and even Legend and the "Vejur" scenes first Star Trek movie benefited hugely from the odd and eerily beautiful music that he wrote for those movies. As for Hans Zimmer and his acolytes, other talkbackers have it right: Zimmer and company are nothing compared to the greats like Goldsmith and Williams. Their music is monotone, unadventurous, takes no chances, says only what the images onscreen are saying (where a good composer will embellish a movie with *subtext* of feeling and meaning). Even the style of the music is the same from movie to movie: ostinato bombast, lots of punctuated string and brass hits, and an overall approach to composition that's almost reminiscent of pop music. (Not that pop music is bad, it's just not an aestehtic that works well for EVERY situation.) But even Zimmer, Jablonsky, and company are better than James frickin' Horner.

  • July 5, 2011, 1:22 a.m. CST

    P.S. Mike Giacchino:

    by MiloDC

    He's not horrible. Most of what I've heard from him has been quite meh (that theme that he wrote for Abrams' Star Trek movie is quite amateurish, although it *does* suit the popcorn-level artistic value of the movie), but he *has* written some decent stuff -- his music for Pixar's Up, for example, was rather charming.

  • July 5, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    The best part of the film

    by Christopher Bynum

    is when Megan Fox shows up and kills everyone with her man thumbs.