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Harry reviews the Steven Zaillian draft of the HANNIBAL script!!! And appeals to Ms Foster!
Hey folks, Harry here... And this time I’ve got
something of a treat to discuss with you.
Quite a while back we heard reports from folks about
the set aside draft of HANNIBAL. The Mamet draft.
There was belly-aching and angst all about how
Lecter wasn’t introduced soon enough. In SILENCE,
he was introduced about 12 minutes and 34 seconds
into the film. And here... well according to those that
wasted their time and words upon a script that was
already... set aside... Lecter didn’t arrive on scene
till... about page 40. Well... He now arrives on page
34.
Through the wonderfully fiendish plots of Dr Fu
Manchu, I have the privilege of being the first person
to tell you of the script that they ARE considering to
make. The Steve Zaillian draft. The one that got
Anthony Hopkins to sign on the dotted line... and the
draft that Jodie Foster has, FOR SOME UNGODLY
REASON, passed upon.
Now I happened to be one of those people that
thoroughly enjoyed Thomas Harris’ novel,
HANNIBAL. Bought it the second it arrived on
shelves the first moment the bookstore opened.
Gone is the accented dialogue writing of Mamet, and
in place is the voice of Lecter, Starling, Crawford...
and our dear pitiful soul... Mr Verger.
Zaillian began at page one, and did a masterful job of
adaptation.
In SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, Clarice is a fresh
rookie... a deer in the fierce 90mph headlights of
Lecter’s gaze. She’s lived since then. Worked her
ass off, gone though the shit jobs at the FBI, doing
field work and yadda yadda yadda...
The film opens exactly as Thomas Harris opened
HANNIBAL, albeit with a curious quick start with
Verger... That’s right... we’ll see Macarena and Fish
Heads and HIV Peckinpah Blood flows.
Each change of scene though brings Hannibal Lecter
M.D. closer to the light. His presence is felt
everywhere.... Echoes of lines from the past filling
Clarice’s mind as she begins to track him down. And
then... Once she’s hot on the trail... We go to Dr
Lecter. Sure... he may have an assumed name.
Sure... He’s not quietly threatening in a white prison
suit behind security glass in a dungeon deep and fowl.
After all.... In both MANHUNTER (RED DRAGON)
and SILENCE OF THE LAMBS we’ve had to watch
the imprisoned Lecter. The man in manacles and
attached to handtrucks.
Not the seemingly cultured, brilliant man of the
world. Not that nicely dressed, nice smelling man
that just passed you with flared nostrils along a
sidewalk.
That’s the Lecter here. Sure... He may have another
name. And to some people that read only with their
eyes upon blackened text... They may feel that
Hannibal is not in the film that much... But that’s
only because they aren’t watching Anthony Hopkins
in their mind’s eye delivering all the lines.
It’s a bit of a prerequisite to be able to do accents and
character voices to read Zaillian’s script. And it is
best read aloud. It’s also nice to have SILENCE OF
THE LAMBS playing in the background with nearly
muted sound... So the spare glances will afford you
the personification of Lecter.
One complaint heard about the Mamet draft was the
lack of Quid Pro Quo. Well... gosh. Why don’t we
just have em reperform the first film? Heh. Well, for
the Quid Pro Quo fans there is an absolutely brilliant
Cell Phone Cat And Mouse scene in HANNIBAL
that will wash away the ham handed lamaties of the
SCREAM cell phone moments.
Remember that moment in SILENCE OF THE
LAMBS where Lecter’s finger grazes Clarice’s hand?
This cell phone scene, is like that.... except as a game
of thrilling hide and go seek verbal foreplay.
Remember the scene in Brian De Palma’s
CARLITO’S WAY, when Al Pacino is trying to get
to Penelope Ann Miller without getting killed. This
scene in the hands of Ridley Scott will take a week or
two to shoot, but will end up being BRILLIANT.
My favorite aspect of the script is that Lecter is
hunted by everyone in the film. They all want him.
Every conversation is about him. And he ‘seems’
completely oblivious to it all. Buying fine soaps
made from whale blubber... Drinking the finest of
wines. And of course consuming the most delightful
of cuisine.
When Lecter kills... it’s a beautiful horrific thing.
Every blow, saw and broken neck a brushstroke to
some unseen camera. To be appreciated by those that
study such bloody tapestries.
But... what I liked here more than in the HANNIBAL
book, is the strength of character anointed upon
Clarice. She’s grown. She piercingly intelligent.
She’s on her own, no longer under the wing of Jack
Crawford. She’s her own woman. She’s no longer
doped up silly at the end. And things are not quite as
they ended in HANNIBAL the book... but the ending
is shocking and delicious. And the epilogue.... which
occurs upon a plane is sure to delight, shock and
make some people gape in horror, while others squeal
in perverse joy.
Clarice’s character is NOT weak. Lecter’s character
is everything he needs to be. We do get a look or two
at Mason Verger.... all teeth and gristle to be sure....
and that unblinking stare. We hear of Mason’s
indiscretions, but do not see them.
Personally it is my opinion that if Jodie Foster passes
upon this film, it will be much akin to oh... let’s say if
Al Pacino bowed out of GODFATHER II, feeling
that he had nothing to gain from playing the
character... yet again... and that it would be a critical
flop.
Can the film be made without Jodie Foster.... Oh
yeah. BUT only if Jodie Foster wants to be eclipsed
by someone like Cate Blanchett, Hillary Swank,
Ashley Judd, Kate Winslet, Nicole Kidman, etc.
This draft answers a whole bunch of the criticism
about Clarice’s character in the third act of
HANNIBAL... from both the Mamet draft as well as
the Thomas Harris novel.
Lecter is still toying with her.... still playing... But,
by the very end I got the distinct impression that the
game was OVER for Clarice and Hannibal. To be
sure there are other games to be had, but this
particular game had been played through. No more
Tic-Tac-Toe or Quid Pro Quo.... If there were to be a
future game, it would most likely be the most
dangerous game.
As Barney recalls in one conversation, “...she was
charming the way a cub is charming - a small cub that
will grow up to be a big cat - one that you can’t play
with later,” when describing a bit of chat he and
Lecter had about Clarice.
This is the last time that neighborhood girl and the
little boy with a crush wrestled and played hide and
go seek in their old stomping grounds. Perhaps the
little girl grew tired of him or he of her... But when
next they meet... if ever... it would be as on animal of
prey to another. This isn’t the relationship as they
had it last time. The dynamics have changed, as all
dynamics between people change given time. It
really is wonderful.
In Ridley Scott’s hands this movie should move as
graceful and suspenseful as Demme’s... but should
also be more stylish than Mann’s.
One last note.... to Joe Funicello (Jodie’s Agent).
You need to seriously sit down with Jodie and take
another look at Zaillian’s draft. It’s better than the
novel, far better than Mamet’s draft and when
brought to life by Jodie and Anthony... With the
amazing eye for detail that Ridley Scott and crew will
bring to this film. I could possibly be even better
than the first film... which was more or less... just a
first date.
And then, for you other lucky ladies that might be up
for this one... What a delicious part!?!?! Perhaps
Jodie is set to make you the luckiest actress in
Hollywood. Though I have to say... I’m rooting for
Jodie!
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Sounds amazing. I have to admit, I was strongly opposed to a sequel, but now I don't now. Let's see what they can do.
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If Foster refuses, you could be AWESOME as Clarice. Please back out of The Gift if you have to, but sign now as Clarice.
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sure we would love to see Foster in that role..now even more than ever..but if she doesnt want to do it then theres nothing we can do about..all the pleas in the world cant make her come back...so i say let her go...Blanchette, Kidman, Winslet...all 3 of these would be great in the part and I will look forward to seeing this movie when its released. Before Harry's review I was disappointed about Foster passing but now i say let her go and lets get the second best actress for the part and enjoy the hell out of this movie.
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I was bitterly disappointed with the book, its a joke, and cheered when Jodie Foster declined the role she had been waiting for 10 years for. But after reading your post I have hope... you see I loved the books before the movies came along and THEN loved the movies. Harris fucks up the last installment (in the last chapter) so much it leaves a bad taste (sorry) when thinking about the two previous classics. If the sciptwriter can take away the genius of 1st two and take the best bits from the last book ...Mason, his sister(!), the pig, hunting lecter on his turf etc... we could be cooking (sorry again)
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Nobody even wants to see that movie anyway! I agree Cate Blanchett would be a adequate replacement for Jodie, but I really want to see The Gift and if that means no Hannibal for Cate, so be it! The Gift is gonna kick ass! The script for Hannibal sounds great but no matter how good it is, it just should not be made unless Jodie reconsiders. The thought of Hilary Swank in those scenes with Anthony Hopkins makes me feel sick already. If Jodie didn't do it, then this draft wouldn't even be filmed because they'd have to do another rewrite with a new character. Forget all that shit and just don't make the damn movie without Foster. Add it to the pile of the greatest movies never made and lets leave the first film as it is. A classic.
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Bless you, Harry! Foster's an idiot anybody who saw Anna & the King knows it. If she won't sign, then get Blanchett or the best possible actress available WE WANT HANNIBAL!
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IF they can get her to committ now to take the part after she's done with Flora Plum, that should work, shouldn't it? I mean, agree on a time, every one can engage in a project that is designed to finish by that date, and then make Hannibal together! I know, in an ideal world....
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Oh nice one MistahEyahs, now that you have lent your intellectual weight to the discussion she's bound to do it...
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Zallian is best remembered for writing the script for SCHINDLER'S LIST, another well-adapted film. He won an Oscar. But before that, there was little to impress: one very strong drama excepting, SEARCHING FOR BOBBY FISHER, he was used to writing and directing sappy, stoic coming-of-age melodramas such as JACK THE BEAR. Given his work on SCHINDLER'S LIST, maybe he'll be able to pull this off.
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I remember there was a big party a few months ago that named Foster as the "most powerful woman in Hollywood." Bullshit. Sherry Lansing could wipe the floor with her. The reason why Foster won't sign on is because she has the image of being a symbol of power, and going back to an old role would be too little for her. She is not even CLOSE to being one of the most powerful women. She thinks that just because she's directed two films (LITTLE MAN TATE, which was okay, and HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS, which was mediocre at best), she's now some sort of godess. WOMEN HAVE DIRECTED MOVIES BEOFRE YOU, JODIE!!!! Penny Marshall, Lina Wertmuller, Jane Campion, Liv Ullmann, etc. Foster is a superb actress, but nothing in the directing field compared to many other women.
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I remember there was a big party a few months ago that named Foster as the "most powerful woman in Hollywood." Bullshit. Sherry Lansing could wipe the floor with her. The reason why Foster won't sign on is because she has the image of being a symbol of power, and going back to an old role would be too little for her. She is not even CLOSE to being one of the most powerful women. She thinks that just because she's directed two films (LITTLE MAN TATE, which was okay, and HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS, which was mediocre at best), she's now some sort of godess. WOMEN HAVE DIRECTED MOVIES BEFORE YOU, JODIE!!!! Penny Marshall, Lina Wertmuller, Jane Campion, Liv Ullmann, etc. Foster is a superb actress, but nothing in the directing field compared to many other women.
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should be in porno. I'm think she has the acting chops to pull off a great DP scene. Fuck her and fuck this movie - I read the book and there is no way they are going to be able to salvage a good product from that. Sir Anthony would eat creamed corn out of Thomas Harris' ass for $22 million.
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If you can write him off as marginal, you might as well call Billy Wilder and Preston Sturges hacks as well (okay, we'll forget about DAYS OF THUNDER.) Zaillian is one of those writers who make the craft appear frustratingly easy. His scripts leap so vividly off the page, viewing the subsequent film is almost unnecessary. You can hold JACK THE BEAR against him if you want, but that film was supposedly quite a departure from Zaillian's original draft. Harry's enthusiasm for Zaillian's HANNIBAL script does not surprise me; although, Jodie Foster's apparently negative reaction does. Could it be, earlier word to the contrary, that she had no desire to revisit the role in the first place?
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I know this is an off-topic post but I feel as though this is a much more pressing matter. It seems that MTV fired Tom Green after he did a skit in which he went to some kid's Bar Mitzvah dressed as Hitler. Does this come as a surprise to me? No. If anybody knows how to piss people off it's Tom Green. Eventually one of the big fish at MTV was going to get so irked by the crazy Canadian that he wouldn't think twice about slipping him a pink slip. It really is a tragedy though, because The Tom Green show was the funniest 30 minutes on TV, ever. It's the only thing I watch on MTV and, besides the WWF and Sopranos, the only thing on TV worth watching these days. Well, I should be talking in the past tense now, since his show is fucking over. Maybe he'll fill in for David Letterman until he recuperates from bypass surgery. I know Touched By an Angel Network CBS would never have the balls to do it. Maybe he'll end up on Comedy Central. Wednesday nights, South Park followed by Tom Green, fucking brilliant.
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I am sure I'm not the only one to make this connection but don't you think that Thomas Harris had Tom Ripley on his mind when he wrote Hannibal (cultured serial murderer living the high life in an abode tailored to his refined tastes in Italy - "Dickie would never decorate an apartment like this!" - Philip Seymour Hoffman, suspiciously, to Matt Damon).
Especially as there are is a whole series of Ripley novels where he goes on murdering and getting away with it (sound familiar?)
Wouldn't it be rich if Harris thought no-one was going to know where he got the Italy idea only to have Minghella trump him by making Ripley (but the timing seems to indicate that there is no way one wouldn't know what the other was doing - I'm sure Harris (or his agent) tunes in to AICN, Variety etc.) So, who knows? -
Three words; Dino, Di, and Laurentis. This guy has made spent a lifetime hooking up to a good idea someone else had already explored succesful and turning out one steaming turd after another. Orca, King Kong, Flash Gordon, Dune (and don't tell me about Manhuter, that was a Michael Mann picture with Dino only nominally involved). This guy is a professional de-railer of trains. Finally we somebody in Hollywood (Foster) who's smart enough not to get on board. Silence was a great flick, let it go. Hannibal will join the smelly heap of lame, unwanted a week or two after its released.
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...people. I would enjoy seeing Ms. Foster in "Hannibal" as much as anyone else would, this doesn't give me reason to denegrate, deride, or personally attack her for not choosing to take the part. To the best of my knowlege no one who's out there saying what a "bitch" she is has had any of their phone calls returned by either Ms. Foster or her representatives, so we are all in the dark as to her reasoning.
Let's lay off the personal attacks and focus on bitching about the person who ends up fillin her shoes.
Cheers,
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The script sounds great, Jodie just tanked big time and has no career to speak of right now. Flora Plum????? Give me a break. Nobody wants to see it. Jodie's a mediocre director and in her last couple of pictures she never managed to squeeze out more than one facial expression (constipation). She needs Hannibal a lot more than Hannibal needs her.
I always wonder just who Foster's fans are. Judging by the box office on Anna and the King, there aren't very MANY of them.
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I am a firm believer that the bottom line should be no Jodie, no movie. I'm not saying that I don't want the movie made, just that they can't in any good conscience make the film without Foster. The role of Clarice is too associated with Foster. The two are synonymous. The studio should offer her the moon. 20% of the gross, a complete bankroll for her next three directorial efforts, whatever it takes. Get her to sign on, no matter what. If she still says no, cut bait. Eat the $10 million loss for the rights and scriptwriting fees and sit on the project. Maybe she'll be more receptive a couple of years down the road. Any attempt to put another actress in the role won't be well received.
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Mistah, shut up you fool. No one's impressed by your cowardly ability to sound like a pig. And by the way, SOTL was Fosters SECOND Oscar win so you cant really say that the role "MADE HER". golgo, while we're on the topic of respect, lets talk Tom Green. Ive never seen the show, because I dont watch TV (except the simpsons), but someone told me about what happened to it. It seems to me that the media believes that everything and everyone should be made fun of and thats some great celebration of our first ammendment. In some cases (such as DOGMA), thats true. But in other cases, its nothing less than sick and uninventive. It doesnt take a brilliant comedian to dress up like Hitler and go to a Jewish function. Maybe there was more, i dont know. But the whole concept of it seems like a desperate effort by a half-assed comic who needs to rely on shock value to get laughs. Furthermore, it is a really really sick joke. I hope that our tabloid era, where everyone is a target for sadistic media exposure, is coming to an end. I would really love it if our society re-learned the meaning of the word respect...and self-respect (no self-respecting comic would ever stoop so low---its the Andrew Dice Clay approach to comedy). Martin Scorsese made a similar plea to the world in the milleniall issue of Rolling Stone.
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Man, I still get weepy when I hear Joan Baez singing along to Ennio Morricone's brilliant score. Damn you, Richard Harris! You killed Orca's pregnant mate and you reaped the whirlwind! Oh, and Tom Green's really off the air? Great, now if they'd only cancel Shasta McNasty, we'd move up a few rungs on the ol' evolutionary ladder. Nothing against dumb humor, but there's an art to shock value, and Tom Green was but a hack.
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And only 50 seconds ahead of me, too, even though I left out all the stuff about respect, but it's a nice sentiment.
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Tom Green is very funny, very willing to sacrifice himself in order to make people laugh. Unfortunately, what makes him funny also has the ability to backfire. He has never been a rule follower, so he has a distinct tendency to cross the line. He has done it many times in the past, and each time he has to do something to top it. He was always pushing the edge of the envelope, and it seems he finally crossed that edge. And golgo_14, as for Letterman's replacement for the next few weeks, I have two words for you: Howard Stern. He is Mel Karmazin's golden boy, he's the best interviewer around, and he wants to do it. Give him a shot. No more ass kissing interviews, no more tight asses on the show, 'cause they wouldn't do it anyway. I guarantee you the ratings would go through the roof.
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Jodie, Jodie, Jodie, please stop playing these foolish games with us sweetie! You need a big hit! You need to stop being so weird and realize that us Fans, The millions and millions and also the gazilliions of people a hundred years from now will look back and be so happy that you signed even if the movie will not live up to the first one, and what if it does? Terminator 2, Aliens, Godfather 2...Be a part of History and don't dissapoint! FLora's Plum? Hannibal? Which do you feel is mandatory at this point? SIGN Damnit SIGN, but of course Jodie doesn't give a damn! and at this point, like Hannibal would say "BRING ON THE FRESH MEAT!!!"
I agree with Harry, Jodie reconsider...by the way, the article above was very enthralling, first thing I read when I got up, now I am going to back to sleep..Thanks Harry!!! -
As a mature person, may I point out that Jodie Foster got her first Oscar because Sigourney Weaver (the favorite for 'Gorillas') got 2 noms that year and they cancelled each other out.
Might I remind you that Foster got her second Oscar the year both of the favorites Geena Davis and Susan Sarandon were nominated for Thelma & Louise - they cancelled each other out.
Might I remind you (cause I was there) that the room went berserk when Anthony Hopkins won. It wasn't just a standing ovation, it was more like a collective orgasm. Jodie Foster got polite applause.
Might I remind you that Sally Field also has two Oscars?
Big deal. If Foster passes up Hannibal she is going to incur the wrath of a lot of people beyond Anthony Hopkins, not just fans either. She can say bye-bye to trying to coast on Mel Gibson's box office coattails. End of story. End of career. Hello TV series (she can take over her pal Gillian's part in X Files). -
THANK YOU, GOD!!! You are a kind and generous diety for taking that sick monkey off the air. He is one of the many reasons I haven't watched MTV in years. Thank you thank you thank you. Now if only that "movie" (ugh) he has coming out would flop at the box office, then he would deservedly end his unfunny days in a trailer park where he belongs.
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Why on God's green earth does she want to spend the next few months DIRECTING a film that NOBODY will see, and will make no money, then another GREAT film with one of the best actors and directors out there, which would be a guaranteed smash hit!!! Hollywood is truly F'd up. Common sense has been lost. I doubt FLORA PLUM can be THAT important to Foster that she needs to put it before a guaranteed masterpiece. Booo Jodie Foster, even though she's my favorite actress, I, like many others, are thoroughly disappointed.
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Although I have the utmost faith in Steven Zallian's ability as a screenwriter (he's the best working today), remember that Harry went gaga over The Phantom Menace screenplay.
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'Nuff said.
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Jan 18, 2000 11:49:34 AM CST
Harry says it's good...does that mean she should take it?
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There are so many negative comments toward Foster right now, it's making me physically sick to read them. Come on, you guys! "Silence of the Lambs" MADE HER? Foster's been in the business since she was a little kid and started turning in performances to rival other established actresses when she was in her pre-teens. Others are saying she's a "bitch" and an idiot for passing this up, well, she has a lot more to lose than Hopkins, Scott and company if she does this movie. If she decided to do it and it was a flop and DID ruin the character of Clarice in the eyes of the fans, she'd be screwed and would have a hard time getting backing for her own projects because her credibility would be shot and she'd have to build from scratch. If she goes ahead and doesn't do the movie, fans of SOTL will boycott "Flora Plum" and call her names and tell her she's stuck up. She would lose a little credibility, but may do well with this next project and save face after all. Hmmm....which do YOU choose? As for her not being a good director yet, not all directors perfected the craft their first time out. And don't give me that Kubrick crap, he had to start somewhere and not all his movies are masterpieces. To sum up, whining and cursing is not going to get Foster onto this movie, and your comments of her being stuck up are not warrented because you don't know what the script is like first-hand and you don't know that "Flora Plum" isn't any good. Let another actress take a bite out of the project (sorry, had to say it) and let's get on with our lives, shall we?
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Does Drew's scipt-a-rama have the new script Harry? Jodie Foster has said on record for years she has wanted to play Starling again..and then the book came out.
Jodie Foster SHOULD NOT do this movie if it is a bad a the book.
Jodie Foster SHOULD do the movie if the script has changed.
She is NOT being a prima dona here , she knows the character better than anyone. She studied and created her oscar winning role.
If she wanted to she could take the money and run, $20m is a hugh amount, but she dosen't. I think she feels she owes something to Starling not to sell out.... and thats what Starling character is like in the book..imagine Dustin Hoffman recreating his Raymond Babitt in Rain Man II : the musical.
Let me put it another way think how f***ed off you were when you saw piss-poor sequels: Highlander, Jaws,Halloween etc
I would trust her judgement if she doesn't want to do it - its Dino D crap.
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It's just a freaking movie! Harry writes about it in his excessively florid way like it's life & death. Sounds like he's about to have an orgasm. Ms. Foster has stated repeatedly in interviews that raising her kid is way more important than anything else now. That it has sucked her ambition for money or fame or what not completely away. Go Jodie! And why would she care about being "eclipsed" by other actresses? I didn't realize she was in a competition. Nor that her 30 year career could be so easily eclipsed. Sheesh. Harry must be one of the few that really liked the cheesy pop-psychology-ridden fuck-you that was Hannibal the book.
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One thing that can't be disputed is that Jodie is a smart cookie. She is also a pretty together person who won't sell out. She's got more going for her than just the movie business, and I don't think she can be bought. If this movie isn't for her, she'll pass on it without batting an eyelash, and pass on it for good. There aren't many child stars that grow up as successful and well-balanced as Jodie Foster. Well, maybe Opie.
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Jan 18, 2000 11:56:15 AM CST
Howard Stern Would Be A Better Replacement For Letterman than To
by golgo-14
I listen to Stern's show for the talk and the interviews, in my opinion, there isn't a better interviewer out there. It all works out nicely, CBS already owns Stern, Stern wants to host a talk show but not for the long haul so eventually Letterman will get his show back. Still, I, as well as the millions and millions of Tom Green's fans, need our daily dosage of toilet humor. HBO or Showtime would be doing itself and the rest of the world a great favor by picking up the Tom Green show. Imagine, an uncensored Tom Green. Oh, and I also second the penis's remarks about people hating Tom Green making him funnier. If you'd noticed, the real star of the Tom Green show isn't Tom Green but the people who hit him and curse at him. Oh, and they shouldn't make a sequel to Silence of The Lambs. Off-topic post? Moi?
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They think they know who I am
All they know is I love to kill
Face down, dead on the ground
Find me before another is found
I come alive in the darkness
Left murdered and nameless
Dead unburied and rotten
Half eaten by insects
She was so beautiful
I had to kill her
Tied her up
Taped her mouth shut
Couldn't scream
Raped violently
Rope tight, around her throat
Her body twitches
as she chokes
Strangulation caused her death
just like all the others
Raped before and after death
stripped, naked, tortured
They're all dead, they're all
Dead
They're all dead, by strangulation
I come alive in the darkness
Left murdered and nameless
Dead unburied and rotten
Half eaten by insects
It Felt so good to kill
I took their lives away
7 dead, lying rotten
Unburied victims
ther naked body putrefy
Strangulation caused her death
Just like all the others
Raped before and after death
Stripped, naked, tortured
They're all dead, they're all dead
They're all dead, by strangulation
I come alive in the darkness
Left murdered and nameless
Dead unburied and rotten
Half eaten by insects
They think they know who I am
All they know is I love to kill
Face down, dead on the ground
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Jan 18, 2000 12:03:42 PM CST
Tom Green Is NOT off the air, here's the proof it's just a rumor
by robrobrob
Look, rumors can float around and around uncontrollably, that really should be easily noticed when you follow the postings on a site like this. But some don't take long to confirm - after i read the post, I typed in www.tomgreen.com, found his statement on the issue in under 3 minutes. Try and check some of these things out BEFORE you post a rumor that can easily be confirmed. Here's the link to his statement.
http://www.tomgreen.com/fromtom.html
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A Civil Action has to be one of the most mis-reviewed films of recent years. I thought it was really really good, especially Zaillian's script and the acting from Travolta, Duvall and Macy. For some fucked up reason the reviews (in Britain at least) all shat on it. I'm sure that everyone recognises what a thoroughly outstanding piece of work his Schindler's List script was. Zaillian is one of the most exciting screenwriters to follow these days. On the subject of fantastic screenwriters, why does everyone seem to piss on John Hodge these days? Because of A Life Less Ordinary? That was great. People as talented as Hodge and Boyle shouldn't have been wasting their time making it, it should have just been Hodge's holiday script as a break away from the dynamite stuff, but I can't see why people overlook how funny, quirky and interesting it was. It was a breath of fresh air, different. And to add to Moriarty's mention of Ted Griffin and his (really excellent) Best Laid Plans script, I think he also wrote Ravenous, which was less successful but still pretty good.
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Think you stupid woman. It's not exactly as if you're firing on all thrusters in the movie industry at the moment.
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Why the hell would she WANT to be in this piece of shit? Harry likes the script so now we have a green light? We've discussed it on the Jurassic 3 talkback; making a third installment is usually just the sign of one thing: MONEY, people wanting more of it. I wonder if "Hannibal" would have been written the same way had Silence not been so succesful at the box office. You could say what you want about Crichton, but at least the guy tackles different topics with every book that he writes. These characters are not the kind that you make a series of films about. Jodie Foster is intelligent enough to realize this, and isn't interested in taking part of the cinema of Cheap Thrils. Her performance in Taxi Driver makes her Officially Cool For All Eternity, and undeserving of such harsh criticism by you wet-dream FanBabies. The good thing about being an established artist is that you are free to pursue your own personal projects, not drop everything for a chance to eat from the cash and shi-tfilled Hollywood trough. Get over it, and you neanderthals wouldn't go see Flora Plum even if Foster had signed to do 10 more Hannibal films, so your attendance will not be missed.
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I don't want to criticize Jodie, because she does seem to be one of the most intelligent people Hollywood has to offer, but I do think she is making a mistake by passing on Hannibal. Flora sounds terrible (the plot concerns a circus freak who falls in love with a young performer) and Claire Danes hasn't done anything moderately impressive since they cancelled her television show. It seems to me that some kind of compromise could be worked out, especially since a great deal of money was spent tailoring the script of Hannibal to Foster's specifics. Sounds like her suggestions really helped the story, too. I hope she reconsiders. This could be a great sequel.
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Jan 18, 2000 12:35:28 PM CST
Julianne Moore WOULD be FAN-TAS-TIC - But if there's no Jodie...
by robrobrob
Then there's no movie. I watched Teen Wolf Too the other day on comedy central, and man, was it TERRIBLE! It's a bad movie nonetheless, but the replaced Styles makes it horrible, it's not authentic. If Jodie's not biting, maybe a rewrite WITHOUT clarice would be the best plan. Soap operas are a good example, too!
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Oh my Lord, Jodie Foster HAS to sign or this movie will NOT be as good as it should be.
By the way... NICE ARTICLE HARRY!
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and NOT Clarice. That's what the trades are reporting. And that would require changes to the Zaillian draft Harry just creamed all over. I don't know if I like the idea of a new character; how many FBI agents can Lecter manipulate then? Graham, Clarice, and now this new one? I hope Zaillian's draft is as good as you claim it is, Harry (and I suppose I am one of the ones you criticized for wasting my breath on the Mamet draft but, hey, I always made it clear in my review that this was the REJECTED draft). The Mamet draft was an utter mess. But obviously Zaillian's draft isn't universally loved as Jodie screwed out of it. Maybe she really wasn't ever interested in it after all. Perhaps she just used the media attention around Hannibal to hype ANNA AND THE KING instead. No disrespect, Harry, but Jodie and her agent could give 2 shits what you think she should do. JODIE AIN'T DOING THE FILM. GET OVER IT. As for Flora Plum, when has any Jodie Foster-directed film done well, let alone any film that's starred Claire Danes? (Romeo and Juliet is the only one that comes to mind for Danes.) No disrespect meant to either actress but it is a legitimate point. Peace.
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Jan 18, 2000 12:56:43 PM CST
Jodi needs a man in her life. Say, where's that "Hinckley" chap
by uncapie
Just checking. I would love to see another actress run with this part and make it a great success just to piss off Foster the prima donna! There's a lot more actresses to take your place, baby! Carob chips, mmmmmmm! Wish it was me! You'd have never had gone "lesbo".
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she does the accent naturally
she'll be cheaper than any of them
she's got her self an oscar
she's OLDER (calista flockheart is what 26?)
Look at these morons trying to inject star power into the sequel to silence of the motherfucking lambs!!!!!!!!!proving that this project is utterly clusterfucked. how are they going to shock us? think of all the serial killer movies that have come since then. and okay, I wanna read david mamet's "lousy" hannibal script. excuse me? david motherfucking mamet writes a bad script, I want to read it. or, or, was I the only one who saw glengarry glen ross. -
Jan 18, 2000 1:13:22 PM CST
I used to adore Jodie, now I just want to spit on her grave!
by geekbasher 3.0
Thats all I have to say, thats right bring in a fresh new face, Jodie, you suck! Stringing us along all these years while your legs are up in stirrups getting eating out by Claire Daines! Harry are you going to remove this? Just wondering, I am bored and need sleep, lAterz, Yeah who cares if we cap on Jodie at this point, she deserves it! BITCH!!!!!!
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what the hell is that or who is it?????????? Please explain to me , like i am a 3 year old child.
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and our darling little Jodie can play Mary Ingalls.........YOU ARE BLIND CRAZY LADY!! Honey, put Molly Shannon in the role of Clarice, she will rip hannibal to shreds!!!! i wish they would make a movie on the Joyologist!
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Jodie loved it so much, she gave it a nickname...right Jodie???
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Jan 18, 2000 1:20:02 PM CST
HER CAT!!!! I was talking about her feline...everyone get yer mi
by geekbasher 3.0
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I agree with everyone on the subject of Foster. She owes it to her fans to make this damn movie! What the hell has she made worht seeing since SOTL? Hell, i cant remember.
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Hey, here's an idea...have Starling's role rewritten as a guy and cast...William Zabka! Imagine the look on Verger's face when he is confronted by Zabka in his dark, DARK blue, super-tight designer jeans, Members-Only jacket and blow-dried, feathered hair. Theme song for the film: "You're the Best" by Joe "Beans Esposito. Oscar GOLD, gang!
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Maybe Jodie Foster is the only one with her head screwed on right, because the book, "Hannibal" sucked. And it wasn't even scary or suspenseful...didn't even try to be.
It's interesting that Harry compares this situation to the hypothetical situation of Al Pacino saying "no" to "The Godfather." Maybe he should have said NO to #3. It wasn't that great of a movie, and I don't know who Al Pacino was trying to portray, but it in no way represented the Michael Corleone of Parts 1 and 2. -
Get it right. Personally, I am amazed that so far, no one has suggested Gillian "Stone Face" Anderson yet. Sorry, what she does is not acting. Candice Bergen has a fistful of Emmys too, but does anyone think she can act? As for 'Hannibal,' do we really need another movie that glamorizes oh-so-clever serial killers? Tom Green? Fired or not, his 15 minutes of fame are just about up. Note to the people who say the rest of us don't "get" his humor: maybe we are the ones who are getting it, and you're not.
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SUCKED! Did anyone read the same book I did? The last 50-75 pages completely betrayed the character of Clarice Starling! The script for this "proposed" movie would have to totally revamp the ending to get me to see this movie. I disagree with everyone who thinks ill toward Ms. Foster's decision. It's her right, she will NOT suffer a crippling loss as a result, and I think she's being damn loyal to the character and integrity of Agent Starling as has been portrayed in the past. I applaud her choice and hope to God above that this abysmal piece of crap that I read never sees the light of day as a movie. Mr. Harris, I just don't know what you were smoking.
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Jan 18, 2000 2:08:31 PM CST
THIS JUST IN: David Crosby is the father of Jodie Foster's son.
by dutch_engstrom
I'll say it again one more time for the people in the cheap seats: SILENCE OF THE LAMBS IS ONE OF THE MOST OVERRATED MOVIES OF THE LAST DECADE! I'll never understand why some people are so ga-ga about this film.Honestly, I've tried very hard to look for whatever "brilliance" others seem to see in it. I also don't find much to like about Jodie Foster's acting abilities. Except for Taxi Driver, I've never seen her give any performance worthy of a raised eyebrow. Now she seems to be turning into a Barbra Streisand-type celebrity: elitist, egotistical, only appearing in a film evry few years, and those movies are weak (The Mirror Has Two Faces and Anna and The King, anyone?) SOTL was an okay film, but I wouldn't give it any more attention than, say, "Play Misty for Me" or "Kiss The Girls" or other movies that had some good ideas, but never quite reached the level of say, "Se7en" or "Dirty Harry", other similar-themed movies that really do deserve that "Classic" status. I think Foster is powerful-as shown by the response the Hollywood community gave to SOTL, a movie which wouldn't have been so honored at the Oscars if not for Foster's clout. I hope they DO go with someone else for the sequel- and I hope Foster becomes for these movies what Alec Baldwin is for the Jack Ryan films - a "What was he/she thinking?" joke...
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Jan 18, 2000 2:11:54 PM CST
I'M SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF SERIAL KILLER MOVIES. WHY IS EVERY
by golgo-14
I liked Silence of The Lambs and Se7en. Someone, I think it was the now deceased Jake The Snake, put both films on his ten best of the decade list, which was the right thing to do. However, there's something that bothers me about this whole genre. All serial killer thrillers in the 90's portray these sociopaths as glamorous, intelligent, and good looking. In real life, real serial killers are often uncharismatic, impoverished, insane and not pretty to look at. John Wayne Gacy, the Boston Strangler, and the Son of Sam are all good examples of this. As a matter of fact, Summer of Sam, a film that was criticized in the media for glamorizing Berkowitz and his actions, did quite the opposite. I find it strange that people on this website say they want to ban Tom Green because they are too smart to appreciate his humor while at the same time they condone continuing this tired, troubling genre.
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First of all, I have to say that Harry's "Godfather II" reasoning is indeed sound. I know why Jodie isn't doing it. She thinks "OH, we made such a great film, and I was a part of that great film. Lightning struck and a masterpiece came out of it. Why should I soil that work of art and my performance in it by selling out to do some bullshit greed-driven sequel?" To her, it's like making Jurassic Park: The Lost World (if I can go there). She has the same line of thought many people have had over the decades. Look at Star Wars. SOME people actually thought the idea of a sequel was terrible... "Oh yeah, one of the biggest money-makers in history...OF COURSE you have to make a sequel, right??" But guess what?? Empire Strikes Back was better than A New Hope! This is also the Godfather line of thought that was held by some people; "Michael succeeds his father and becomes the new Don. Story's over. A sequel would just be commercial bullshit." But the Godfather II was twice the movie Godfather was!! Godfather II was even more of a fucking masterpiece!! Now, some might say that these are rare rare happenings, but I beg to differ. A film like Silence of the Lambs is indeed a classic...a great film to be sure. And Jodie might think that they can't top it, and maybe she's right...BUT WHY DO YOU HAVE TO TOP IT??? Hannibal is the period at the end of the sentence. it is the final statement that completes the point! Jodie should not be afraid that she will be haunted by the word "sell-out" for the rest of her life! Jodie, PLEASE!!!! Read the script and ask yourself; "Is this a good script? Do I think that it will turn out to be a good film?" Ask yourself why Sir Anthony Hopkins has committed himself to this film!! You are the other half of that equation!!! You ARE Clarice!! DO IT JODIE, YOU KNOW IT IS RIGHT. (I know she will never read these words, but it's instinctual to talk in the second person when you're talking in the third person)
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Her problem is she thinks she's a mainstream movie star and movie stars can't be lesbians, so she thinks nobody knows. She should open the closet door, some of those damn closets are airtight, so no oxygen: brain cells die. Makes people who are supposed to be intelligent become stupid- they pass on Hannibal, make Clare Danes movies, wanna be Leni Riefenstahl, wanna make romantic comedies with Mel Gibson (excuse me while I throw up). If you read the Mamet script you'll see it was written expressly for Foster: Clarice is a real, live heterosexual, why a macho homophobe like Mel Gibson could get the hots for a dame like that!
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Andy Kaufman experimented with the medium of television and the art of stand-up comedy in ways Tom Green will never approach. Yes, Andy enjoyed the often rancorous responses his performances elicited, but they were never entirely the point, as they are with Green. Tweaking convention was what drove Andy; the reactions were merely gravy. If you can't see the difference, then we'll just have to check back in ten years when Tom Green is remembered as nothing more than another incarnation of MTV's Resident Idiot in the grand tradition of Kevin Seal (you know, MTV's erstwhile "Sporting Fool,") Pauly Shore, and Jessie Camp.
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Hey big guy, step outside your your own personal movie universe and have a look around. It's a cinematic Groundhog Day and your Punxitawnie Phil. Stop using whatever influence over the Hollywood industrial complex they let you think you have and think about what might be going through Jodie Fosters head. Let the girl live her life. In some towns in America they'd have had a restraining order on you faster then Randy Newman plagerizing himself. Just because you want Jodie Foster to play a role she passed up, her decision has nothing to do with, and I want to make this absolutely clear, it has nothing to do with the professional lives of Thomas Harris, Steve Zallian, Ridley Scott, various studio execs, Harry Knowels, or anyone else except her and her loved ones. Lets start with the basics here. Does anyone tell Harry what to write, who to work with and what decisions to make regarding the well being of either him or his family. Let's yell it out on yonder mountain, IT'S JUST A GODDAMN MOVIE!!! If her kid is scheduled to have her first day in preschool when priciple filming begins hey, a mother wants to be with her child. Some of mistakenly believe that movies are the be all and end all of life, well they are not. Life is the be all and end all of life, movies are, to steal from Douglas Sirk, and imitation of life. Harry why don't you lay off of Jodie Foster until you can say you have spent 5 grueling months filming or when you can say that you have achieved what Ms. Foster has and, let's not forget what a hungry actor Pacino was when he did Godfather II, where's Foster? She's a mother approaching 40 and with two Oscars under her belt. Taxi Driver was made 25 years ago. Where were you Harry?
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i think harry should start his own religion, because so many of you seem to take his word, as the word of God... "lord harry saw it was good, said it was good, and it was good..." seems to be the general concensus here... i read the book and it was an okay book until the end where i thought it was ridiculous... personally, i think Foster's the only one who has her head on straight...
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Jan 18, 2000 2:33:59 PM CST
Um, pharycide... ...What the f*** was THAT post all about? Poems
by alexandra dupont
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I enjoyed the book a lot. Sat on a San Diego beach and read it. THe personality of Hannibal was just as good as ever.
I loved tromping around Italy buying soap with Hannibal. And I loved how we got to learn more about him.
I also like the ending. I can understand the violent bit at the end being left out, but not the real ending, where Barney sees, well sees. (trying not to spoil).
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'Nuff said.
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Serial killer movies with "charismatic," or "attractive" murderers: SOTL, BASIC INSTINCT, KISS THE GIRLS, SCREAM (though that's not really *of* the genre,) KALIFORNIA. Serial killer movies with awkward, unattractive murderers: MANHUNTER, PSYCHO, PEEPING TOM, COPYCAT, HALLOWEEN, M, HENRY, SUMMER OF SAM, etc. My point is that, more often than not, these characters are portrayed as monsters (and, usually, by Tom Noonan.) In any event, the allure of the charasmatic killer is due in no small part to the real life monster, Ted Bundy, who had women admirers pleading for his life *at his sentencing*!!! I'd expound on the absurdity, no, sheer stupidity of this fact, but the late, great Bill Hicks (already referenced once in this talkback) did it years ago with much more eloquence.
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www.tomgreen.com
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Who would win? Well, I don't really think Tom Green is interesting, or very funny... But I'm not one of the Orange County Republicans who scream about him. I just change the channel to South Park (which is shocking, rude, envelope-pushing, and manages to be REALLY clever and funny beyond anything Green could do). But I must say: The best comedic entertainer of all time is Pisso. I believe he's been *banned* for all time from AICN, but oh! the sublime warmth of his golden showers. His happy clown antics are sorely missed... Maybe someday he'll come back to us-- a powerhouse of bladder control, the Patron Saint of Depends. OH Pisso, I'm holding a torch for you.
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(1) MuNq
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Whatever her reasons are for not doing Hannibal, they are hers and I THINK she should have earned enough of our respect by now for you people to accept that decision. If it's a mistake, the mistake is hers to make. Sean Penn declares he no longer wants to act but instead concentrate on directing and everyone applauds his bravery in walking away from a successful career. Foster makes a similar decision and gets roasted by the fanboys. Quite the double standard, no? As for the rest of it, Tom Green made me laugh the first couple of times I saw him (LONG before he showed up on MTV) but his act wears thin pretty quick. Painting his parents' house plaid while they were away still ranks as his greatest comedic achievement in my book. And Harry isn't the Prophet, Bill Hicks is. "It's only your dignity, suck it. It's only your dignity, suck it."
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And the fact that Harry hasn't been the only one raving about the latest draft. That being said..... yes, we all know about the now-ignominious tears shed at ARMAGEDDON, the crazed, but genuine, enthusiasm over SIX-STRING SAMURAI (hey, I kinda dug it, too,) and his HAUNTING review where Harry proclaimed it better than EPISODE I. I still think he's a decent gauge in determining the effectiveness of a genre script, which is why I continue to pine away for Jodie's eventual involvement in HANNIBAL. After all, they completely did away with the Clarice Goes Cannibal finale just for her.
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I guess the allure about Serial Killers in modern day cinema has to do with the fact that they are like our modern day versions of werewolves and vampires. Like werewolves and vampires, we generally think of them as being creatures of the night who prey on people. Unlike werewolves and vampires, they're real. That's what makes them both frightening and interesting. That said, I've just about had it with serial killer flicks. The difference between a great film like Se7en and a stinking, formulaic pile of poopoo like Bone Collector is that Se7en eplores and comments on the mindset of a serial killer while movies like Bone Collector and Kiss The Girls just throw in serial killers to compel moviegoers to compel moviegoers to buy tickets. Oh, and I'm not dead, I just have a life, unlike most of you guys.
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...but my ovum had the very strength and mettle of Wonder Woman, and bitch-slapped that weak little sperm with the cold ferocity of a female mantis until it stood up, straightened its tail, and fertilized the living bejeezus out of that ovum -- producing one Alexandra DuPont. Seriously, though, Artaud -- I
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Hannibal's the star. Hopkins is brilliant, Scott's great and so is Zaillian. Harris' novel was incredible. Foster isn't required. Here's her movies folks since SOTL:
1) Little Man Tate - flop
2) Shadows & Fog - bit part
3) Summersby - crap
4) Nell - embarrassing crap + flop
5) Maverick - yeah right she really carried that dumb movie
6) Contact - movie boring she was dead loss
7) Anna & the King - need I say more?
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Jan 18, 2000 4:51:07 PM CST
Ritch, your either very stupid or your mother didn't stop breast
by golgo-14
What a brilliant and thought-provoking criticism you had for me and my post. It must have taken you a long time to think of that, considering your a complete retard. Yes, I am an idiot, but unlike you, I am not a child molester. I dedicate this post to you, my awkward, sex offender little friend.
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...if you want 'hannibal' to succeed. stick with zaillian (sp?) - the man can write screenplays like a mutha ('the falcon and the snowman'). stick with ridley scott - the man can direct. if you can't get foster and hopkins back together, then start from scratch. THAT'S RIGHT, GET TWO NEW ACTORS TO PLAY CLARICE AND LECTER! having a new actress opposite hopkins is just gonna seem...wrong. swank? haven't seen 'boys don't cry' yet but i'm sceptical about singing her praises too much until she gives a few more good performances. judd? too reminiscent of foster. anderson? already does the starling thing on 'the x files'. kidman? can't fucking act. blanchett's probably your best bet, but i want to see her opposite christopher walken as lecter. if scott can keep walken's tendency to flare up under control, this would kick so fucking ass!
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Now that Jodie Foster begun her reign as supreme political-correct queen of Hollywood, i think an actress with more edge should be given the role of Clarice in HANNIBAL. She was awesome in ELIZABETH. My bet is she can play this role with the same intensity and fidelity to Foster in SILENCE OF THE LAMBS. This could be her chance to shine in an important movie and an important move to stardom. Now if you add her great talent with the determination inerent to such opportunity, she could delivery a great performance. And the company of Anthony Hopkins and Ridley Scott would certainly help a hell of a lot!
My opinion: ditch Jodie Foster, get Cate Blanchett now!
This HANNIBAL project have all the ingridients to be a better movie then the former SILENCE OF THE LAMBS: Ridley Scott is a better director than Jonathan Demme, Anthony Hopkins on board, and Cate Blanchett is in her prime.
Of course HANNIBAL it will not win Oscars, but so didn't SE7EN, HEAT, L.A. CONFIDENTIAL or 2001. So who cares?
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Jan 18, 2000 5:38:26 PM CST
I rely on you for keeping up with military aviation, Jamie...
by jambalaya gumbo
Ms. Foster has spoken many many times about her feelings about the characters she chooses to play. In the case of Clarice Starling, the theme of positive female empowerment strongly attracted her to the part - after reading the synopsis of HANNIBAL almost a year ago, I predicted that Foster would not return to play Starling - there was no way Jodie Foster was ever going to portray a character who ends up as a drug-addled sex toy. It simply doesn't fit in her career. Without a major revision to the ending of HANNIBAL - which Thomas Harris has balked at - get ready for a Foster-less sequel.
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Jan 18, 2000 5:40:57 PM CST
She said "Yes" to Sommersby, and "no" to Hannibal? SCREW JODIE
by wesreviews
I agree with the one talkbacker who said she is a pain in the ass. Her last good acting role was Maverick. Actually, that's about the only other role she'll be remembered for (except for playing a hooker in Taxi Driver). She's not had a major film in...lets see...FOREVER...and she totally craps on Hopkins by basically saying that she's not going to reprise the role that made her a star again. Where was she before the first Silence of the Lambs? It had been quite a while since Taxi Driver and I don't recall her making any sort of big splash in Hollywood after that. Oh my bad, I forgot the masterpiece that was Freaky Friday. PUUHLEASE! Anthony Hopkins ought to thank his lucky stars that he doesn't have to endure another adventure with her, as her lack of talent and interest in doing anything important in Hollywood would only hold him down as an actor. Clarice is an important part of a Silence of the Lambs movie, but HANNIBAL is what the movie is about. Let Foster go make Nell Part 2 or something crappy like she's going to make. Good riddance, Jodie Foster. I'm glad your 'Lambs' stopped screaming. To Ridley Scott and Anthony Hopkins...I can't wait to see what you guys do in the sequel! You're real professionals who won't jerk around your fans and adoring public, unlike Foster did. Does she really think she has a career aside from Silence of the Lambs? Hahaha, I hope she's not that delusional!
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Where was Jodi Foster before SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, Wes Reviews? A little movie called THE ACCUSED, for which she won a Best Actress Oscar and a Golden Globe Award. Or is that a little too "highbrow" for you?
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Blade Runner,
Scott a better director than Demme? Now that's a good one. Instead of comparing the theatrical and director's cuts of Blade Runner, perhaps you should take a few minutes to watch: Melvin and Howard, Something Wild, Married to the Mob, Stop Making Sense, Swimming To Cambodia, Silence of the Lambs, Philadelphia, and Beloved.
You might learn more than I did seeing White Squall, Thelma and Louise, and GI Jane.
And am I the only one here who thought the novel HANNIBAL was an earth shattering diappointment on all levels? No suspense, no fun, and the most preposterous ending to I've ever read! Please! I doubt even Steve Zaillian could rescue this floating turd. And like getting Hopkins is any credibility to the script-- anybody see Instinct?
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Not a bad idea! Just give me her phone number, and i'm sure we could arrange something
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Mockingbird Girl: Okay, just what the hell do Academy Awards mean? Forrest freaking Gump beat out Pulp Fiction and The Shawshank Redemption for Best Picture. Anyone see anything wrong here? The English Patient? Shakespeare in Love? Okay, they mean nothing in reality. Just a bunch of people in tuxedos patting each other on the back because of how well their studio's Academy Award marketing campaign did. Even if they did mean something, SO WHAT? Louise Fletcher won for One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. She deserved it too. But where is she now? NOWHERE! And that's exactly where Jodie Foster will be in about five years, maybe less. She was a Hollywood fad when Silence came out, but now she's as stale as slap-bracelets, those stupid little troll dolls from the early 90's, and South Park. Her fad has come and gone, and she even had a chance to revive it and totally rejected it to go further into oblivion. You people say she's smart? Some people are just stupid. Foster is nothing without Silence of the Lambs in her filmography. PERIOD.
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If Jodi Foster ops out on Hannibal AKA: saying fuck you to the movie and the fans I personally think fandom should turn our respective backs on Miss Fosters furter endeavors. I have nothing against lesbians but she is acting to much like the steryotypical "Bitch Dyke" for me. Some one needs to give her a wake up call.
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Mr. Madison sir- I too learned a lot from the films of J. Demme. I learned how NOT TO MAKE A FILM. He's the most obvious, heavy-handed, over-rated piece of puffed-up Hollywood crap this side of Ron Howard. There is more art in an inch of Blade Runner than in Demme's entire catalogue. Look at his career arc again- he was a barely competent hack until he lucked into the Lambs job, which he got because it a) was a sequel to a film that hadn't done very well and b) was considered nearly unfilmable anyway. Two iconic performances from his leads later Demme is hailed as a genius. He had nothing to do with it, mind you. Which part of Philadelphia makes you think he has talent? The 'preaching with a sledgehammer' storytelling style? The utter contempt for the intelligence of the audience? As for the yobbo up there who said Lambs was about the good doctor and not Clarice Starling... actually, the fact he said that in print is a more withering indictment of his thinking skills than anything I could come up with. If you understand nothing of the basic construction of a story you probably shouldn't put yourself in socially embarassing situations like that, dude. You don't like Jodie Foster, OK, fine, we get the point. Maybe you've had a string of girlfriends switch teams on you and you're looking for someone to take your frustrations out on. Whatever. You're still talking about a woman who has had THREE career-defining roles: in Taxi Driver, in the Accused, and in Silence of the Lambs. Most actresses would feel fortunate if they had just one of those. I don't care if she chooses to do Ernest movies for the rest of her life. She has EARNED your respect, you mongoloid homonculous (shout out to m'man Beaks!), and if you show her none don't be surprised when the Sapphic Liberation Front drag you away in the middle of the night, never to be seen again.
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Fredmadison, there is true in what you wrote. I have to confess that i'm a Ridley Scott fan (as if you didn't notice already!). And if you want to beat the crap out of Scott's movies G.I. JANE or WHITE SQUALL you have to wait in line because i arrived first! I totaly agree with you that those movies are inferior by any director standards, much less Ridley Scott. The only saving grace of those are the visuals. But what else is new on a Scott movie! My believe, i think G.I. JANE was ruined by an incontinential-styled editing
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Jan 18, 2000 7:18:01 PM CST
Speaking of FOWL,everybody make a mental note to see Chicken Run
by user id indeed!
Hey there friends.Are you tired of all these endless serial killer movies?Want to see a more uplifting movie?A movie that stands out in a crowd?A movie that promises to be a hit?I have an answer for y'all:Chicken Run. How can you resist?You can't!It will be perfect!I hope there's a Superbowl commercial for it.Speaking of Superbowl,Go Rizzams!
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So many of you seem to be quick to harshly judge Ms. Foster for her decision, without having read the script yourselves, or having any understanding of what her thought processes were in deciding not to do the film. She instead decides to stand by her own film, "Flora Plum," perhaps taking much heat for it, but keeping her own dignity and integrity intact. She has never appeared to be a stupid woman, and I'm sure her reasons were sound. If her own movie means more to her, I understand that. While I enjoyed "Silence of the Lambs," I for one would rather see no "Hannibal" at all in place of a poorly done version.
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Rejecting an appearance in this
movie is the smartest thing Jodie
ever did. PLEASE don't make
this movie!
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Jan 18, 2000 8:31:09 PM CST
In order to enjoy Tom Green, one must insult oneself by lowering
by niiiice
People on AICN enjoy Tom Green? Come on! I expected more, frankly. He does as much for comedy as Adam Sandler: Taking the crudest aspects of comedy to overkill. It's good for a few laughs, sure, but be damned if you don't feel like an idiot later for laughing at something like that. Keep in mind the real comedy isn't that much different from drama, it still has something to say, but a different way of looking at it.
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I just started reading HANNIBAL (the novel). And of coure I was thinking about what a shame it would be if someone can't convince Jodie Foster to reconsider the role. But if she doesn't, I believe Ashley Judd could do an excellent job. I'm only 50 pages into it, and already, I picture Ashley as Clarice when I'm reading.
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Jodie is not a fool, not an idiot, not greedy. She turned down the first script because she believed the character of Starling was being ruined. I think, specifically, it was the cannibalism she was supposed to succumb to. *** Jodie has her own agenda, which involves becoming the best she can at that which she's interested in. They didn't do her character right, so she did something else. That simple. I don't think she needs the cash.
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Where can I find this new script on the net? And Bill Hicks was a comic genius, and you never saw him on annoying TV commercials. He would`ve shook his head at the kind of thing Tom Green and MTV sell as comedy these days. Now, as for Tom Green, he`s okay but comic genius? Nope.
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I personally don't really give a rats ass if Jodi Foster plays Clarice again. Jodi Foster really creeps me out now. I welcome the chance to see another actress (preferably an unknown) take on the part, and do an even better job.
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When did the AICN fans become a group of erudite, old gentry types, who lounge by the fire in wingback chairs with a snifter of brandy as they chuckle gently at the supposed high brow comedy stylings of Bill Hicks?
Tom Green versus Bill Hicks?!?! Why compare the two?!?! It's a matter of what you're looking for in a joke. If you want inventive pranks, then watch Tom Green. If you want insightful political/social commentary sandwiched between some jokes and A LOT of yelling and creative expletives, listen to Bill Hicks. But don't put on airs about your sense of humor being more sophisticated just because you hate the Tom Green's scatalogical humor. I believe Bill Hicks also delved into some disturbing (albeit verbal) gross-out humor himself. -
Jan 19, 2000 3:06:35 AM CST
You People Need To Get Out Of The House More. Maybe You Will Fin
by dands
So Jodie does now want to do Hannibal? Who gives a damn?! Its here life, she can do what she wants. If you do not like it, thats just too fricken bad. You people are acting like like she pissed in your soup or ran your dog over. If you people are getting this worked up over an actress turning down a role, you better start examining your life, because there's probably a hell of a lot missing. So Hannibal may not get made? Guess what? You will survive without it. I doubt the sequel would have been as good as the original anyway.
And as for this being similar to Al Pacino turning down Godfather 2? Don't be ridiculous. They must be putting some funny stuff in you drinking water Harry. -
If Demme put spaceships and replicants in his next movie would he be a really cool filmmaker then?
Yeah, I guess Demme's career must have really been in the shitter when he gets a huge bestseller and Jodie Foster together. And I remember everyone was touting it as the "sequel to Manhunter."
Oh yeah, I forgot how subtle Ridley Scott is. You two need to join hands and drive over a fuckin cliff. -
What is it with you knuckleheads and sequels? Can't you just see ONE movie and then move on? HANNIBAL is a dreadful work. It's completely unnecessary. Except to make money. Also, Hopkins was not a very good Lecter...he was much too "theatrical" and therefore unbelievable and not very intimidating, as opposed to Brian Cox's more realistic portrayal in MANHUNTER. I think Foster made the right decision.
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If it's all just a rumor--then I salute the person who started it! Tom Green's show is sometimes amusing (when it's not tedious)--but fuck him if he can't take a joke! Also, that posting on his website reads like a joke; suddenly he's Mister Sensitive...he's full of shit if he thinks that he doesn't hurt and humiliate people. But fuck THEM if they can't take a joke. Don't you all realize that there are more urgent issues in the world--like when will Jodie Foster come to her senses and star in that dopey sequel!?
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I probably should have got in earlier with this but Harry mentions Hillary Swank in his list of Jodie replacements and I might be being stupid over here in merry old England but I have never heard of her. Who is she? Sounds like a made up person to me - or was that the idea?
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Jodie Foster is not going to be in Hannibal, no matter how much you plead. She's already signed to direct a film this spring. Are you seriously requesting that she break her directing contract to play a Clarice Starling who becomes a cannibal?
Jodie Foster is a thirty year professional in Hollywood. She is more than capable of choosing her own parts (and has done so with remarkable success to date). For an amateur to tell her that she's being foolish for turning down a script is the height of arrogance. She's already made her decision, for reasons that make sense to her, and it's none of your business whether she wants to do Hannibal or not. Perhaps she isn't crazy about the idea of her son someday watching her munching on someone's liver, or becoming romantically involved with a disgusting serial killer.
And make no mistake - Hannibal Lecter is NOT a hero. He is a villain. He is a wanton, vicious killer who breaks one of the most strongly rooted taboos in human society: eating our own dead. I tried to read Hannibal and was so disgusted I stopped about fifty pages in. Thomas Harris has obviously become so obsessed with his character that he has lost all sense of proportion and objectivity. For the moviegoing/ book community to glorify such a character is to compound Harris's error.
Finally, why the appeal to Foster and Foster alone? Why not an appeal to Jonathan Demme? Why not a petition to force Sean Connery to appear as the Witch King in Lord of the Rings? Or to force Ioan Gruffyd to take the role of the young Bruce Wayne? Why is it one of the most powerful and independent women in Hollywood who is chastised for her role choice and urged to change it? Why Jodie Foster alone?
Could it be yet another sign that this is basically a site for fanboys who don't trust women to make their own choices? That maybe, despite Foster's two Oscars and reams of critical praise, Harry thinks the little darling just doesn't have the taste or the brains to pick her own parts? That she should yield to a fanboy's pleas just because *he wants her to*????
Nah. Couldn't be. Even Harry couldn't be that crass and that much of a misogynist. I hope. -
Finbar saunders, AKA Rule Britannia, you can see a list of what Ms Swank has been in: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Swank,+Hilary. PS, Blade Runner, what the hell in "incontinential editing"? I entered "incontinential" into the Merriam Webster interface but it came up blank! I can understand "incontinent editing", do you think making up ridiculous neologisms makes you sound clever?
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I have read and liked all of Thomas Harris' books until Hannibal. I don't blame Jodie Foster for turning it down. It was a piece of shit. I can't speak for the re-written script of course, but as for Hannibal the book, I'd say good for you Ms.Foster for turning down the money.
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I will grant you that Scott's last good film was nearly a decade ago. But it's funny, I don't recall any replicants in Black Rain OR Thelma & Louise, yet they too are considered 'cool'. Scott's a visually oriented director who when given material with some substance uses his style to COMPLEMENT the message, not bury it. Demme, on the other hand, has one 'asset' as a director- he stays out of the way of his performers (his best work prior to Lambs was with 'concert' movies like Swimming to Cambodia, and even then Cambodia is only the third best Spalding Grey movie). This is fine when you're working with Foster & Hopkins. It's not so great when you're working with Oprah Winfrey or Russell & Hawn. As far as getting to the heart of a work, though, Demme is useless- if he's such a great director of difficult books then why did Beloved turn out so shitty? And don't even get me started on that awful piece of trash Philadelphia. I thought Demme had a little talent too until I saw that nasty runny bowel movement of a film. Artistically, Demme isn't even in the same sport as Scott, much less league or ballpark.
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Please no. If anyone thinks she'd be even remotely good in Hannibal I direct your attention to the most recent example of Oscar buzz crash-and-burn, Elizabeth Shue. One good role does not a talented actress make. Now, if Emily Watson were in the running...
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..... I'm not entirely sure that Ridley Scott's made a film as successful as STOP MAKING SENSE. While there's no questioning its stature as a stylistic juggernaut, BLADE RUNNER, considered by many to be Scott's masterpiece, still strikes me as a bit empty at the core. I prefer ALIEN, but, for all its brilliance, it didn't redefine the genre in the way STOP MAKING SENSE did the concert film. There's no question Demme's on a losing streak, but, then again, so is Ridley. They're both capable directors with wildly different styles, which makes comparing the two a tad difficult. Kinda like the Smith/Anderson debate over on the Sundance talk back, except, in this case, both guys are talented.
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I find the level of disrespect toward Ms. Foster deplorable!!!
How is it plausable for you people (seems about 80-90%)to toss out terms like "stuck-up" or "bitch" when refering to a personal choice made by an actress???
Some people enjoy movies for what they are, entertainment, but judging from a lot of the responses on this page, there are far too many people who take this subject WAY too seriously!
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Anyhow, get off of the multicolored fantasy trip you all seem to be on (with the exception of a few)! It's not your life, in fact it's a fictional role. That you care about the character of Agent Starling, that is both based on good writing and good acting.
Unfortunately for all who care, Mr. Harris chose to opt out for the (possibly) crappiest, biggest betrayal of any fictional character in memory.
Better no movie...unless they have managed major reconstructive surgery on this failure, let it die.
I certainly wish Ms. Foster the best of luck...she seems to be the smartest person in town by avoiding this stink-fest. -
Jan 19, 2000 1:36:13 PM CST
Zallian Script Sounds Great! Jodie Foster Is Just About My Favor
by buzz maverik
...if she doesn't want to do the movie, we're lucky that there are a few other good choices. The character should be played by someone around Foster's age or who can play that age convincingly. Julianne Moore is my first choice. Bridget Fonda, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Helen Hunt and Sherry Stringfield who was on the first season of NYPD BLUE and the first couple of seasons of ER would all do the part well.
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Swollen with liquid Ready to burst A load of my lymph Will quench this dead body's thirst One month in the grave twisted and half decayed She turned a putrid yellow
I pissed in her maggot filled asshole Fucking the rotting My semen is bleeding The smell of decay Seeps from her genital cavity The smell was unbearable As I unburied her I cum blood from my erection I feel it run down her throat, swallow Eyes glassy and vacant body dug up to play with Skin greasy and naked tounguing her rotted anus I need a live woman to fill with my fluid A delicate girl, to mutilate, fuck and kill her body exceptional she thought I was normal but I wanted more I came blood inside of her chocking on the clot gagging on the snot gushing blood, from her mouth bloody gel leaking out Body buried in a shallow grave Unmarked for none to find The sickness I have left behind Undetected go my crimes The greatest thrill of my life was hacking my hard cock with a knife Violent, climax Serging serum on my skin Back from the dead I am resurrected to spew, putrefaction.
And to stay on topic here, Silence was a great movie, Hannibal I am weary on, not just because Jodie Foster turned it down... but because the book was putrid.
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(How often has the concert film been redefined, anyway? Don't Look Back, the Last Waltz, Stop Making Sense...) I'm not disputing the impact of the Big Suit, but I do think Scott had a huge impact on science fiction films. The one-two punch of Alien and Blade Runner had a bigger artistic impact than Star Wars (the impact of which was more financial than anything.) And OK, Stop Making Sense's influence is a little more pervasive, but it's also a more limited genre. Big fish/small pond etc.
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Jodie Foster can only be considered smart by really stupid people. Smart people don't direct one disaster Home for the Holidays and think they should direct another movie. Little Man Tate and Home for the Holidays were more than enough Jodie, you should refresh your memory about the reviews and check out the pathetic box office on imdb.
Smart people don't star in the Turkey of the Year (aka Anna and the King wanna check out the box office on that one? Dont you'll slit your wrists)and humiliate themselves in the process. Smart actresses realize when they're 40 (and babe, you look it) they can't compete with younger, better looking actresses who are more talented. Smart actresses realize it's more important to get respect through their work than through playing PC heroines their lesbian buddies want to see. And people with integrity don't make Maverick or JAP COMMERCIALS EITHER. -
Jodie's the smart one. I read the book, and it's one of the worst I've ever read. If the script's as good as Harry says it is (and remember how overly-positive Harry can be sometimes) then it probably has almost nothing to do with the book. Blanchett turned down the role, I thought. Gillian Anderson can't do it, but she can't act anyway. Let's end the madness and scrap the project. Gotta move on, people. The movie's being made for the bottom line, and nothing more. Oh, and one other thing, WISE UP and don't pay attention to Tom Green. Or Magnolia.
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Make no mistake: I'm a great admirer of Jodie Foster's, both on-screen and off. Few, if any, actors in Hollywood can play intelligence with the same sharpness and aplomb as Ms. Foster. The fact that she took time-off from her acting career to attend and graduate from Yale makes me admire her all the more since the majority of today's actors are dim bulbs who barely made it through high school. Indeed, if they hadn't found acting, most of them would be cleaning grease traps at the local golden arches. My one complaint about Ms. Foster, however, is that she has absolutely zero romantic/erotic/sexual chemistry with her male co-stars. CONTACT, for example, was a reasonably decent film that might have been a lot more palatable if the "romance" between Ms. Foster's character and the male lead had been completely deleted. Watching her supposed affair with the Matthew Macaunaghy(?)(spelling?) character has one of the highest Cringe Factors an audience will ever encounter in 20th Century cinema. The same with ANNA AND THE KING; admittedly, this film would have tanked no matter who was in the cast, but Ms. Foster's falling in love with a male lead is about as believable as George Clooney playing a woman. Please, Ms. Foster, you're a superb actress, but for the sake of your own credibility avoid any films that have your character involved in a hardcore heterosexual relationship. That great an actress you aren't.
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I've held back as much a possible, but you are one of a large group of pricks who knock Jodie Foster for her decision not to star in (that's right, STAR)a movie that, based on a petty lousy novel, should never be made.
I'll refrain from childish insults...I'm sure that would only add fuel to all of the "Jodie-is-a-Bitch-damn-traitor" insults that seem to be pouring in.
Your comments on her looking her age have absolutely NOTHING to do with this topic.
I'll just say this...if you are going to try to make a point of some sort, try to back it up with...1)knowledge of the source material and...2)something better to argue than "you look it(age)babe".It seems that you need to get a life...it's not the end of the world, and I think I'll actually make another day knowing that another lousy book won't get made.
Grow up, people. There IS an actual world outside Mr. Harris's. -
To Fredmadison: No need to be rude. So you think that Jonathan Demme is the best thing since Orson Welles. That's alright, you have the right to your own opinion. But franquely, Ridley Scott is best! And by the way, i like your nickname. I also loved LOST HIGHWAY.
To Go To Bed Spotty: I wasn't trying to be a smart ass. It was a typo. It happened because i'm portuguese and english is my second language. Sometimes i write english word in a portuguese manner, resulting in typos. And thank's for correcting me. And if you pay close attention to the way i write in english i do it in an latinic way, denuncing the style of my mother language.
To Anton Sirius: Don't be so bad to J. Demme. He is a competente director to say the least. But too PC for my taste. FILADELPHIA was a disapointment.
To Mrbeak: BLADE RUNNER might be a cold in atmosphere but there is a very warm core in it. I think most people doesn't seem to stand the moral cruelty of the movie and blame Scott for some immaginary lack of emphaty. Remember, his older brother had died just a few months earlier to his involvement to that movie. It could had a subliminar effect on the movie, who knows? -
Jan 19, 2000 6:28:08 PM CST
Just because the novel sucks, doesn't mean the movie will.
by wesreviews
Take a look at Jaws. Peter Benchley's original book really wasn't all that great and Spielberg turned it into an awesome movie. Psycho was a pretty standard book, and Hitchcock made it into one of the greatest motion pictures ever made. The movie of Jurassic Park: The Lost World kept my interest a whole lot longer than the lame book did. I've not read Hannibal, but if it sucks then all is not completely doomed for the movie. Don't worry.
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Jan 19, 2000 6:34:17 PM CST
Whatever happened to the film adaption of the REAL "Hannibal"?
by wesreviews
That's right JOHN "HANNIBAL" SMITH. Also known as a member of the A-Team. I heard about this movie going into production in 1996 and being scheduled for a Summer 1998 release but as you all know that never happened. Harry, do you know why this project got shelved? None of the other movies sites seem to have any news on this movie. If done right, it would be really cool. The only cast that would make it work (since I'm sure the studio would never get the original cast, and the fact that the original actor who played Hannibal is dead now) would be Leslie Nielsen as "Hannibal" (Nielsen used to do serious roles, remember?) Jim Carrey as "Howling Mad" Murdock. (ha, but he'd never do it) Probably Brad Pitt as Face (i can't think of anyone else who would be good.) Neve Campbell or Sandra Bullock could easily pull off a good portrayal of Amy. And last but not least Ving Rhames would have to be the only guy able to take Mr. T's place as BA Baracus. Any thoughts on this off-the-topic subject?
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From what I've observed here (especially in this Talk Back), there are some rules/beliefs that should be followed, at least 99% of them, in order to be a "fanboy" (sorry, it's the only word I can think of):--1. Only LOTR, Fincher projects and comic book movies should be reported on at AICN--2. The film industry began in the late 1960's (and sometimes not before the 1980's or 90's)--3. Kubrick is God, Fincher and Anderson are close seconds and all their movies are perfect, even though other people can point out their flaws--4. The favorite movie of the month must be mentioned in every single Talk Back you write--5. Anyone who does not participate in the movie or project you want to is an idiot--6. If that person is female, she must be a bitch--7. If that bitch is also an independent woman who doesn't seem to need a man in her life, she is a lesbian--8. The words "lesbian" and "fag" are insults--9. Anyone who disagrees with you must be flamed using a combination of swear words and references to fecal matter, anal sex, urine and other bodily fliuds and functions, written in either all caps or without even trying to use proper punctiation--10. If Harry likes a movie you don't, he's a sell-out--11. Right now, "Matrix," "Fight Club" and "Magnolia" are the best movies ever--12. You may love or hate TPM, but never say anything bad about Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back--13. There are no women who come to this site--14. You may judge a woman's acting ability on her breast and butt sizes--15. If a movie doesn't win an award, said award is a considered a sham and not a tool of reference--16. The movie that won the award was a piece of shit and the actor who won it is a hack--17. Women can get naked in movies, but if men do, that's just sick--18. If Kevin Smith says something bad about the movie/director you love, he sucks, and you can no longer love him-----is that all? Or is there more?
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I have never seen Tom Green nor have I had the pleasure of seeing his commercials. Nonetheless, from the monikers of the Talk Back posters who seem to be titillated by him, and the descriptions of his skits, Tom Green appears to be an ass. What I do admire is someone who pointed out that Dennis Leary merely became famous by impersonating (stealing from) Bill Hicks. While I like Leary, Bill Hicks was a comic and social genius that epitomized the individual who could only respond to all of the absurdity, intolerance and injustice with what he had left: anger. But in the end, he pointed out that it all "is just a ride." We all need to think about that and not get so vitriolic if Jodi decides not to play a role. That doesn't make her a "bitch", "whore" or anything other than someone who has decided she doesn't want to do something. Let's focus our anger on all the obvious bad shit out there and leave Jodi the hell alone.
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seems that she been wearing those skirts for too long LMAO.
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come on already, make this movie and it'll kick ass. Jodie shouldn't be such a drag and should just sign on the dots. It couldbe the coolst flick in years and years to come. P.S. why is Demme not directing? Cheers.
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Finally! Last night I finished Hannibal!
For the last few months I've been avoiding anything to do with this subject - for fear of plot spoilers - which is no mean task, considering I love browsing this site -
Jan 19, 2000 11:22:01 PM CST
To WesReviews, and anyone else concerning good movies from bad b
by stephen dedalus
Ever try and read Ron Kovic's sappy, naieve, over-sentamentalized crap-fest BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY? Don't bother, because it is one of the most poorly written memoirs I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Oliver Stone's movie, on the other hand, was pretty damn good, one of the best Vietnam movies made, despite the fact that Kovic co-wrote it. Also, there was THE HOODS, a horrible 1950's novel that was the inspiration for the landmark gangster epic ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA.
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My circle of friends all read RED DRAGON and SILENCE OF THE LAMBS back in the 80s, and before they were even discussing making the film we all decided that the only person who could play Clarice was Jodie Foster. Amazingly, that's what happened.
But times have changed and the number of strong, smart actresses out there has grown and now I'm of the opinion that Ashley would do a hell of a job. I hope they're smart enough to offer her this project and I'm sure *she* wouldn't be dumb enough to turn it down! -
Chricton only wrote the novel The Lost World so Spielberg would have an excuse to go ahead and make a sequel. Thus, he'd have a reason for making it other than the money, by basing it on the novel, which in fact he barely did.
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Well, you scratch Cate off the list. The Reporter has confirmed today that she's officially "shied away" from the role. Guess that leaves Hilary Swank, Angelina Jolie & Helen Hunt still left on the bottom list, which now looks like they just about all moved up to the top of the list. Oh boy! C'mon Jodie! Get back on the stick here and go another round!
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PERSONALLY I THINK THE WHOLE HANNIBAL THING IS JUST DUMB. LIKE WHO REALLY CARES? THE STORY ENDED WHERE IT DID AND TRYING TO EXTEND IT IS POINTLESS BECAUSE IT JUST LEADS TO DUMB THINGS LIKE JODIE FOSTER EATING SOMEONES BRAIN (WHICH IS SOMETHING JODIE FOSTER WOULD NEVER DO). P.S. NO MATTER HOW GOOD THIS SEQUAL IS, IT WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS THE BEST SEQUAL EVER - THE PHANTOM MENACE. OKAY, PEACE OUT - PAUL NADJAMABADI (THE STINGER)
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Flora plum probably will suck but who cares!?!?!? it's what she chooses to do and that's all that matters! Jode has a good judgement on movies and if she don't wanna do hannibal I respect that! Jullianne Moore sucks! She will probably suck as clarice too, but let her ruin the part instead of jodie! All you who put down foster should be shot! She is a fabulous actress and director and producer and has been doing it since she was 2!!! Who has more experience than that? Not many people! Plus even if she did wanna do it now she culdn't becase the movie is done filming and she has already started doing "The dangerous lives of the altar boys" and will be startin flora plum soon! So lay off and wake up!~The t
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