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Quint visits the set of Captain America and sees Cap in a knockdown, drag-out fight with Red Skull!

Published at: June 29, 2011, 6:50 a.m. CST

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here.

If there was any doubt I was in for a good day it was extinguished when I saw the 1940s cars parked on David Lean Dr. in front of the Orson Welles building just past the front gates of Shepperton Studios in London, England.

At first it seems an odd choice to film Captain America in London. In fact when I was going through customs at Heathrow the agent asked me what I was doing in the UK and I said, “Funnily enough I flew all the way from America to London so I could see Captain America.” We both shared a laugh and I didn’t get put in the “cavity search” line.

But standing on the streets of Shepperton Studios one can’t help but feel the history of the place, aided of course by the 1940s autos and the sweet blue and tan period bus parked in every available space. It starts to make a little sense that perhaps the hope is that the feel of the area might bleed into the period-set film.

After checking our cell phones (they are very serious about leaked images) our small group was joined by Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige and producer Stephen Broussard who quickly led us upstairs to have a look around the art department.

 

 

When I entered the door labeled “Frostbite Art Department,” (Frostbite being the codename for the shoot) I was witness to a long rectangular room with every square inch of wall space plastered with production art. If one started at the right spot and walked clockwise around the room one could see the entire movie beginning to end in art form.

The movie begins in present day as an excavation uncovers something in the ice. The art pieces I saw included a wide shot of the excavation site which looked a little THING-ish, digging equipment in a small camp illuminated by bright lights, and a great shot of a familiar round object, obscured by thick ice, colored red, white and blue with a big, white star affixed in the center.

If you paid attention during Comic-Con you’ll remember that the footage Joe Johnston brought involved Hugo Weaving procuring the Cosmic Cube. In the early books the Cosmic Cube gave the Red Skull the ability to conjure anything with a thought. This version doesn’t do that, but it apparently gives The Skull an advanced form of weapons knowledge.

So this world will be a little more sci-fi-ish than I expected. There are giant tanks that fire what looked to be energy blasts or plasma shots, sleek guns that looked like a combination of WW2 weaponry and blasters and transportation devices that were a mix of the technology of the time with a bigger, sci-fi edge.

One of these devices was a massive machine called The Orbital Bomber, a stealth bomber looking ship that is so massive it houses seven more aircraft that will detatch and enter battle during the climactic battle sequence.

The Red Skull’s group, for those uninitiated, is called Hydra and the logo is a red skull with octopus-like tentacles underneath. Because of the edge the Cosmic Cube gives them the war is now radically shifted in the Reich’s favor.

Enter scrawny, but idealistic young Steve Rogers. He wants nothing more than to enlist and help the American war effort, but he truly is a pipsqueak and is labeled 4F each time he tries. There was a fantastic piece of art that said everything there is to say about Steve Rogers: Little Steve stands in front of a mirror with a soldier’s outfit and helmet drawn on it. On the art are the words “Do You See Yourself In This Man’s Army? Enlist Today!” Steve’s head barely reaches the uniform’s collar, the helmet floating above. The lad’s shoulders are slumped, his body language pure misery. You can see that image realized in the trailers for the film.

 

 

Pale, rail-thin and short Rogers’ ambition far exceeds his physical ability.

That’s not true of his best friend, Bucky, who is enlisted. On their last night together they attend the Stark World Expo, which looks just like you’d expect if that art’s any indicator. The glimpses we got in Iron Man 2 made it look like Tomorrow Land on an epic scale and that’s exactly what the art made it look like, complete with monorail and fireworks.

I’m not sure exactly what happens from this point out, but I know Howard Stark is instrumental in the development of the Super Soldier formula and at some point early on Steve Rogers is picked to be the recipient.

There were some amazing pieces that stood out to me before we leave the art department room. One was a big war piece where Cap straddled the top of a giant tank with an enormous barrel blasting a bright blue light. Cap had his shield raised high over his head, about to strike down on what I’d imagine is the top hatch.

Another piece had Cap riding a zip line down to a speeding train, which was sleek black, carrying missiles and branded with the Hydra logo.

One more piece of art had Cap standing in the center of The Invaders (which are really The Howling Commandos), which had a French resistance officer, Dum Dum Dugan (complete with bowler hat and shotgun) and Bucky, wielding a sniper rifle.

And then there was a piece I tried to talk the studio reps into making a teaser poster. It’s a great Rosie-like artist’s rendering of a grinning Captain America urging you to join the war effort. Total propaganda and perfect for the time period.

After checking out the art room, we were led to a large space that was set up with big props including the rebirth chamber (the thing that turns Scrawny Steve to bulky Cap) and Schmidt’s coupe, a crazy extravagant Nazi ride that is like Burton Batmobile long with a shiny black coat of paint and even shinier chrome accents.

Apparently this coupe was so spruced up that when they first hit the gas on it the car did a wheelie, so they toned it down to 500 horsepower. At the time of our visit the coupe had been clocked at hitting upwards of 70mph, which is super fast when you consider just how massive this car is.

When we were done taking close-up looks at the big props we moved over to the corner of the room where a sound system and screen were set up to show us some stuff from the movie, most of which you’ve now seen in the trailers. But they did show us the complete Scrawny Steve transformation scene. The details are foggy this far away, but the footage was rough, cut really quickly for us by Johnston… some of the shots had Steve Rogers looking buffed up before he was supposed to be, some we clearly saw his double (who wore facial prosthetics as well as the track dots to make his face look even closer to Evans’), and, of course, there was no sound mixing, color timing or green screen replacement. Tucci was the stand-out even in this rough cut version of the scene. His Dr. Erskine was played with the perfect mixture of seriousness and humor as needed in this scene.

Dramatically, this scene showed us a crucial part of Steve Rogers’ character. During the experiment, Rogers experiences incredible pain and his body is so stressed that his life is in danger. Erskine and Howard Stark move to stop the transformation before it completes, but Rogers screams from inside the chamber “No! I can do this!” taking the pain and risk because it’s the only way for him to serve his country.

Feige filled us in on some story elements, including a really cool way for Johnston to incorporate a bit of the classic comic book into the slightly more grounded movie version. After Cap is born, the project is sabotaged and Rogers is kind of lost. He’s big, he has great strength, but those who had plans to train him to use it are now gone or scattered. Tommy Lee Jones doesn’t like him much and wants to study him, but a US Senator thinks there’s a better use for him.

Cut to Cap at war… but when the camera pulls back we see that he’s on a stage, not the front lines, as a camera crew films a war bond newsreel promo. This Captain America is used as an icon, a symbol of the allied war effort and does touring shows. In these shows the boots are bright red (and look more like Cap’s comic pirate-looking boots), his costume is more like the original run of Captain America comics and his shield is that classic police-badge shape, not the upgraded circular shield.

 

 

They’re going to use this traveling war effort stage show to recreate the cover of Captain America #1, where Cap punches out Hitler.

 

 

The utilitarian Cap costume you see in the trailers come to play when Rogers has to go on a rescue mission. They didn’t say it, but I think his longtime friend Bucky might be in trouble and his first boots-on-the-ground mission takes him into a massive Hydra factory to rescue some POWs.

Now, Hydra begins as a special weapons division of the Nazi party, but when Schmidt gets his hands on the Cosmic Cube that morphs into the more sci-fi powerhouse that Hydra will becomes in the movie.

Interestingly enough, Feige told us that we shouldn’t count out seeing more WW2 themed Captain America stories on the big screen since the movie takes place over a period of about 3 years. So even though we all know Cap ends up in the ice if there’s a call for more WW2 Cap adventures there’s plenty of missions we don’t see. I found this very exciting, especially since Feige said that he loves Ed Brubaker’s use of WW2 in his Captain America stories, where the first few pages of one of his comics would be a WW2 adventure and that would inform the modern day storyline being told in the book.

The first actual set we visited was Hydra’s HQ as the 2nd Unit filmed scenes of Hydra soldiers running down hallways. Later on the soldiers would be fighting with the Howling Commandos, but we didn’t get to see any of that.

Red Skull’s lair was the centerpiece of this particular set and it was pretty rad. It’s a giant space that feels Third Reich-ish, but with a flair of sci-fi tech. The Red Skull’s desk was a big sucker, but tidy. An old book sat open on the desk, pages yellowed and delicate. It looked like an occult book, written in German. Broken glass littered the top of the desk. I guess there was a struggle.

On the wall next to the desk was a large painting of The Red Skull wearing a decadent fur cape and a slick black leather outfit. Behind the painted Red Skull was a large black banner with the bright red Hydra logo on it. If you want an idea of the style, it reminded me a lot of Joe Jusko’s Marvel Masterpieces work.

Down a couple of steps, but in the same large room was an area we were told The Red Skull uses to build Cube tech. Four huge mechanical arms hung from the ceiling, each with a different tool attached to the end. One of them had a pincer, another a drill, another a bank of lights, etc. Everything cube-related had a glowing blue light associated in some way.

From here we made our way to Shepperton’s oldest and biggest studio space: H Stage. Stanley Kubrick shot all the lunar surface stuff from 2001 in this massive stage. Producer Stephen Broussard believed the Award Ceremony ending to A New Hope was also filmed on this stage, but there wasn’t any documentation to prove it. He challenged me to find a Behind the Scenes pic to prove it, obviously a follower of my daily column.

In the center of the stage they were deconstructing a gigantic wheel. It was like an airplane wheel, but multiplied about four times. The wheels themselves were maybe 10 feet tall and the landing gear some 25 feet tall, going up into the rafters.

They had just shot The Red Skull’s crazy extravagant coupe skidding to a stop in front of this wheel and didn’t need the set anymore. The crew was hard at work dismantling the giant structure, sparks flying as they blow-torched pieces off it.

Our roving band of geeks moved from here to the real fun place on a movie set: The practical effects wing. Usually it’s just a make-up trailer that makes your head spin with all the prosthetic appliance chemicals and glues, but here they had their own building. We saw the Red Skull prosthetics on dummy heads (the heads themselves cast from Hugo Weaving’s lifemask so they’d sit perfectly).

Like most facial prosthetics they came in multiple pieces, with the difficult areas being the seams. They have to hide the edges, with the trouble spots usually being mouth, nose and eyes… Well, with the nose they don’t have to worry about it because the Red Skull ain’t got one. The prosthetic had the nose hole sculpted, with just enough room for Weaving’s real nose to fit through. His nose was painted black and would be digitally removed in post-production.

 

 

Weaving spent 3 ½ hours in the make-up chair every day to transform into Red Skull and they used very thin, flexible silicone to allow Weaving the full range of expression. They were adamant that Weaving wouldn’t be buried underneath the make-up.

Because of the tight Orbital Bomber stage, our monitors were set up in a smaller, unused stage where we could watch as they filmed a fight scene between Cap and Red Skull. Um… yeah. How cool is that? Not only was I there to watch some filming of a Captain America film, but they brought us there for a down and dirty punch-em-up between two of Marvel’s most iconic characters.

And the fight was surprisingly brutal. It didn’t feel overly choreographed and featured a lot of close hand to hand fighting.

The action of the scene began with The Red Skull and Cap falling over at the same time on the flight deck of the Orbital Bomber. Cap’s shield is at his feet, upended. He rolls forward and grabs it, sliding his left arm into the leather straps and punching forward at the now standing Red Skull with the shield.

Red Skull blocks the punch and lands his left fist into Cap’s gut and in one fluid movement grabs the shield, pulling it free of Cap’s grasp, and swats him with it.

The blow sends Cap crashing backward into some machinery, sparks flying on impact. The Red Skull doesn’t let up and pushes forward with the shield. Cap grabs it and they’re locked together for a moment. Red Skull shouts something like, “You wear a flag on your chest and think you fight for the future of your country. I’ve seen the future. There are no flags!” Cap shouts back, “Not my future!” and pushes back, catching Red Skull off guard.

With a mighty heave Cap rams The Red Skull into a chair near the windows, causing another explosion of sparks as the chair itself collides with the control panel. Immediately the Red Skull sends a boot flying at Cap’s face, sending him backwards as air and fog rush about the room.

The Red Skull grabs at a railing just as his feet upend and he’s struggling against a giant suction. They didn’t say what happened, but it’s clear the windows were blown out and the air is rushing out, trying to pull both men out with it. So, the Red Skull was pulling a Total Recall, holding on for dear life.

Hugo Weaving came over for a couple of minutes to talk to us and the make-up looked pretty spectacular up close. It was definitely bizarre conversing with The Red Skull. The best part of the brief talk was hearing Weaving talk about how amusing Werner Herzog’s accent was (“There’s something wonderfully mad about it,” he said) and how he built The Red Skull’s accent off of Herzog’s.

We had considerably more time with Chris Evans who was led in wearing an overcoat, presumably to hide the costume from telephoto lenses. One of the reporters asked if we could get a closer look at the costume and he said, “Sure,” removing the overcoat. It took about three seconds for us to realize his zipper was undone and it took him about four seconds. He quickly zipped up with a sheepish grin on his face and answered some questions.

Evans was candid about his reservations taking on the role, one due to the pressures of expectations of doing justice to the character and two, because he’d already played a superhero and wasn’t sure if people would be up for seeing him play another.

He also said that he’s basing Steve Rogers very heavily on the books, naturally, but also on his friend Charlie, who is a huge comic fan, but also the most honest, upright citizen he knows. He’s an Eagle Scout through and through and that’s Evans’ personal way into the character of Steve Rogers. He also said that he wanted to make sure that Scrawny Steve Rogers could still be seen in Cap and that if you couldn’t see that character at the end of the movie then he would have failed as an actor.

Shortly after Evans was called back to set we were told that Johnston wanted us to travel one stage over and watch a few takes live. This was the Orbital Bomber deck where Cap fights with Red Skull. The space was cramped, but there was a circular walkway about five feet off the deck that we all stood on. In a semi-circle we watched as Weaving was pulled up on wires to get that Total Recall shot I mentioned above. The timing had to be right because Skull had to be lifted up, flip forward and grab a piece of railing to keep himself from being sucked out into the void.

We spent all of two or three takes on the stage before we moved out to go tour wardrobe, which was actually much cooler than I thought it would be, mostly because I got to be photographed holding Cap’s shield if I’m to be totally honest.

But there was also the ability to get a real up-close look at some of the iterations of the suit, from the flamboyant wing-eared bright red, white and blue USO Show version to the final real war version. Yes, I did get to hold the classic circular shield (built by Howard Stark, no less… as was Cap’s costume, we were told), but I also insisted on picking up the very heavy original shield that is part of Cap’s USO show. It’s gaudy, totally impractical and all the cooler for it. The back of this shield was reflective gold! Unlike the practical shield that Cap takes into battle, which is much more utilitarian.

We were informed that some of the design elements that worked their way into the costume came from the base fact that Howard Stark designed it and that he, as a character, is a futurist, so they felt comfortable augmenting the 1940s style with hints of ‘50s touches, giving it both a retro and a slightly futuristic feel while making sure it was totally functional.

Interstingly enough, we were told that minor bits of the costume were altered due to fan criticism from the brief glimpse of the suit at Comic-Con that year. The biggest complaint was that there were no wings on the helmet. The wings are present (and stick out) on the USO outfit, but in order to not make it ridiculous on the soldier’s helmet they settled on a stencil approach, so the wings are there, but not gaudy.

That about wraps up my time on the set of Captain America. Hope you guys dug the report! Now all that’s left is to see the damn movie!

 

 

-Quint
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  • June 29, 2011, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Quint

    by Kevin

    Thanks!Looking forward to this.

  • June 29, 2011, 7:11 a.m. CST

    This year's LXG.

    by loafroaster

  • June 29, 2011, 7:18 a.m. CST

    NIce set report

    by VXXXJesterXXXV

    Quint, you have certainly helped to make the wait for this even harder....lol. Sounds like a great time and sounds like they are all taking shit seriously. Also very jealous of the whole pics with the shield thing. Any chance you will be able to upload those pics at some point?

  • June 29, 2011, 7:20 a.m. CST

    LXG, not even close. Cap is going to own this summer.

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    I never understood the LXG hate either. It was a good flick.

  • June 29, 2011, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Once again, Quint is the top dog on this site because

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    he's a professional.

  • June 29, 2011, 7:31 a.m. CST

    can't wait

    by Jesse Kroh

  • June 29, 2011, 7:41 a.m. CST

    That was probably a good set report...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...but I stopped reading it when I realized just how heavily spoilerish it is.

  • June 29, 2011, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Will A Glowing Review Follow The Movie-Set Visit?

    by Graphix67

    Well, maybe it just *seems* that way... Sorta' the way when Harry gets sent toys from the studio and then falls in love with the movie in question during one of his reviews... But I anticipate that CAPTAIN AMERICA will pretty much rock at the BoxOffice so I won't be busting Quint's chops over a good review when it officially hits the big-screens.

  • June 29, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    loafroaster, I wish I could bet against you.

    by pw

    I'd make a fucking fortune!

  • June 29, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    I can do a great Herzog impression

    by UGG

    It was not a significant bullet

  • June 29, 2011, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Awesome article, Quint. And that one sheet!

    by Lord Elric

    That one sheet is perfect! Please tell me that's the one Paramount/Marvel are putting out as the final.

  • June 29, 2011, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Devin Faraci hates Captain America.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Just hates him.

  • June 29, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST

    All hail Lord Hugo Weaving!!!

    by Mr Soze

    Transformers, Lotr, Matrix...

  • June 29, 2011, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Set Visit

    by D Jones

    I bet no matter how good or bad this movie ends up being ,on this site at least it will receive glowing reviews. If you get perks from the studios you lose a degree of objectivity because they threw you a bone, again this does not make you a bad person just human.

  • June 29, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Re: the spoilers.

    by Richard

    I haven't read it yet, are they heavy or minor ?

  • June 29, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    It will be a glorious day when we can...

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    watch Captain America, Iron Man 1 & 2, Hulk and Thor, before going to the cinema and seeing them all together in The Avengers! Cap looks awesome!

  • June 29, 2011, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Joe Johnston still directing ?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    seriously, I hope he hits it out of the park, but has a track record of mediocre.

  • June 29, 2011, 8:40 a.m. CST

    Summer 2010 v Summer 2011

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    So far nothing is holding a candle to Inception or Toy Story 3, and maybe only Harry Potter final has a chance, anything else? could Cowboys and Aliens be really good ?

  • June 29, 2011, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Nice work, Quint.

    by Cletus Van Damme

    Thank you.

  • June 29, 2011, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Good Article, Quint.

    by Bald Evil

    No disrespect to the other site writers, but I very much prefer to read what happened during the set visit over lengthy "what this movie means to me" anecdotes. Are you gonna post the picture of you with the shield?

  • June 29, 2011, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Stopped reading when I realized...

    by jasvll

    ...this was a film novelization, not a set report.

  • June 29, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST

    I'm so hyped about this film. Everything seems to be spot-on.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • June 29, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    A question for all the Captain America experts.

    by v3d

    How come the government only made one super soldier? Wasn't the point to have an army of super soldiers? It's a pretty big plot hole. Did Steve Rogers have some unique genetic make-up that the formula only worked on him?

  • June 29, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Damn!

    by Sanyi

    I wanna see this right now!! Instead, I have to go to that transformers movie...not that I'm complaining, no.

  • June 29, 2011, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Did they green screen the tip of Hugo Weaving's nose....

    by Bobo_Vision

    ...to make that hollow appearance in Red Skull's face?

  • June 29, 2011, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Oh wait....just read the answer in the article

    by Bobo_Vision

  • :)

  • June 29, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Live in the now..

    by klytusnotdead

    miyamoto, fuck the summer of 2010, Inception sucked, ToyStory 3 blew and Cap will fuck them and your mind will forget last summer. Good reading Quint, you lucky bastard. End of line.

  • June 29, 2011, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Genderbender=Devin Faraci

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    This film will destroy all superhero films this summer. Guaran-fucking-teed

  • June 29, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Quint--do we know if this film is set exclusively in the past

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    or does it switch halfway to the present time? Please answer correctly and show your work.

  • June 29, 2011, 10:09 a.m. CST

    V3D

    by Bald Evil

    Answering your question might spoil events in the movie; I'll just say the intent was to create many more super-soldiers, but things didn't work out that way.

  • June 29, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    v3d

    by Scottadkinsfist

    They meant to make more super soldiers, but the sabotage killed all of the scientists that developed the serum and Stark's equipment was destroyed in the attack along with the other vials of serum, leaving Rogers as the only one to get it.

  • June 29, 2011, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Agree with the choppah

    by Scottadkinsfist

    This looks like the film to beat. I thought this looked way better than Thor, and Thor was actually pretty good except for a few spots. Just seems like more care was placed into this film. We'll know soon enough.

  • June 29, 2011, 10:26 a.m. CST

    v3d - reason for just one super soldier

    by Seth Brundle

    im no captain expert but to the best of my knowledge... SPOILER!!!!!!!!! The scientist who made the super soldier serum didnt write some crucial aspects of the mixture to paper, the dumb asshole just kept them in mind, and after Captain America is born, a nazi spy breaks in and kills him, so the secret of the formula died with him, making Steve Rogers the only super soldier

  • June 29, 2011, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Genderblender

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    if you have such a distaste for superhero films, you can always skirt your sweet ass down to the Angelika. You seem to revel in watching these films fail. Though GL faltered, it doesnt mean superhero films are dying. just GL. Which is fine. Marvel on the other hand, is rocking the shit. Iron Man...Thor...and now Captain America. And I'm not understanding why you are denigrating the FX in the film which from all accounts looks less and less a CG-fest than its contemporaries. If Joe Johnston can recapture the glory he had with ROCKETEER i think we will be in for a beautiful July. God Bless AMERICA!!

  • June 29, 2011, 10:52 a.m. CST

    These movies never have an ending

    by Nabster

    A story needs an end, needs a resolution to be satisfying. I'm sick of these superhero films. Hannah has been better than any superhero film I can think of.

  • June 29, 2011, 10:53 a.m. CST

    I don't see how it could be LXG

    by FluffyUnbound

    LXG was poorly cast, a development disaster, looked threadbare and cheap on the screen in previews, and was based on a property that didn't translate very well to the US market even after they screwed with the source material to insert an additional character.

  • June 29, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    And yes I do realize

    by FluffyUnbound

    that our negative LXG comments will now summon that asshole producer who shows up on message boards to argue that LXG was as successful as Star Wars.

  • June 29, 2011, 11:02 a.m. CST

    @genderblender it wont be this year but it will happen soon

    by sunwukong86

    The public will get bored with the genre and we will eventually see its decline. This is inevitable, I just dont think it will happen now. Im sure in the next few years Its happened before, the Slasher genre in the 1980s and even the Universal Monster flicks in the 1930s/40s Kung fu flicks in the 1970s, i could go on

  • June 29, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    well paint me positive

    by zom-bot.com

    i think this sounds great. Johnson loves this period and captures it well. it sounds plucky, full of heart and action. may just be our truest old school superhero film yet.

  • June 29, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Can't wait

    by xsikal

    I use my wife as a barometer for non-comic-book hype, and she is practically frothing at the mouth to see this. I cannot wait either. :)

  • June 29, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST

    My Captain America (1990)

    by AlbertPyun

    It's great that Cap will finally have his proper day in the celluloid sun. My director's cut is screening in Las Vegas on Saturday July 2 and in Austin July 17. If anyone is curious to see what my version of the low budget movie was like, here's your chance! On a big screen. I'll be there to personally be pummeled by your slings and arrows. If nothing else it will make the new CA look even better! Albert Pyun www.pyun.com Facebook / Albert Pyun Movies

  • June 29, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST

    america needs this right now

    by zom-bot.com

    hopefully it will cheer up and motivate a lot of us.

  • June 29, 2011, 11:38 a.m. CST

    wonder if joe johnson will give a nod to

    by zom-bot.com

    the rocketeer in some way? mention of the nazi spy actor (timothy dalton) or a strange flying man spotted in the midwest? it could all easily tie in together, or exist in the same universe. except, well, rocketeer is owned by dark horse i guess.

  • June 29, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the clarification on Super Soldiers.

    by v3d

    This movie is looking good and I have faith in Joe Johnston

  • That'd be a cool shout-out to The Rocketeer.

  • June 29, 2011, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Albert pyun

    by Monolith_Jones

    Hey welcome. Quick question why was the Red Skull Italian in your version ? Unless I'm remembering it wrong.

  • June 29, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST

    azultool

    by Kevin

    I heard a rumor that in some countries it will be called "The First Avenger"

  • being a freak and a geek yourself. Or at least a freak. Yet, you talk like a high school jock bully. Highschool jock swould have given you wedgies just like us geeks if only to see what gender you truly were.

  • June 29, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST

    bibleman

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    It's easy for genderblender to say it will fail and sit back and do nothing. If it does fail (and it wont) she will prance on all TBs and shout to the heavens that she was right and she told us all. If it does happen to make a profit and is reviewed by critics as favorable, then she would say that the audiences were duped into a film that flaunted its excessive use of jingoism and will accuse the film of glorifying rape of the world and women in general. Gimmie a fukkin break. The fact is THE ROCKETEER was favored slightly in the critical ring and the audiences decided to see T2 and Robin Hood instead. I really dont remember the marketing of the film, but I know it wasnt as saturated as DICK TRACY, which is why people didnt rush to the theaters. Had it been released today, I feel it would be a franchise.

  • June 29, 2011, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Everything about this film screams GI JOE II.

    by Quake II

    Bulky black plastic uniforms, sci-fi vehicles, PLASMA BOLTS in the 1940's?!!!! What?? I don't care what the explanation is (Cosmic Cube) this is NOT the Captain America film I was hoping for. I'll go see it but my expectations are so low I'm bound to like it. The Hydra logo is stupid btw. Anyone that argues that an angry octopus is more wicked looking than a swastica is high on crack.

  • June 29, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Mr Pyun. Your version had its moments.

    by Quake II

    The 1940's stuff was really good. The rocket lab set with the Red Skull battle and the giant swastica in the background looked great for a low budget movie. I think most fans were baffled by the whole Italy/Godfather turn the movie took but I assumed it was either written or financed by Italians. Plus the 90's were not kind to any superhero that wasn't named Batman.

  • June 29, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Who the fuck cares about box office?

    by Anthrax

    Shit movies often times make tons of money. Great movies sometimes don't make anything. Box office is just about the last thing that should be used as an indicator of a film's quality. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with comics. For the most part, comics provide more intelligent and exciting stories than most television, movies, or books being produced today. If someone came up to me, started talking about comics, and threw in some "Booms" and "Pow's" in an attempt to embarrass me or make me feel stupid, I would probably just laugh at said person's foolishness, and their attempt to use a joke that really never worked against comics even 30 years ago. There really is no excuse for exhibiting that level of ignorance with regards to comics in this day and age, not even if the excuse is that the person in question has a massive inferiority complex.

  • June 29, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Here's what worries me the most.....

    by Quake II

    As a director, Joe Johnston has done: Honey, I Shrunk the Kids The Rocketeer The Pagemaster (director [live-action scenes]) Jumanji October Sky Jurassic Park III Hidalgo The Wolfman There's not a great film in that list and most are mediocre at best.... Not a hater, just a realist. Spileberg should have directed Captain America. Most directors don't suddenly churn out a masterpiece after decades of duds.

  • June 29, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    quake ii

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    i would say all of those films are entertaining and more than average other than jurassic park 3 i havent seen the pagemaster so i cant comment on that. for what he was given with wolfman, i thought he did a great job. hildago--solid entertaining effort october sky--same The rocketeer is a rollicking great time with an excellent score by horner. Great little animated scene in there too. JC at her hottest. how defukk do you not find honey i shrunk the kids fun?!?! everytime its on, i can;t help but watch it. Regardless each and everyone of those films looked great (sans JP3). the man knows his visuals. and you should give respect where its due--the man designed BOBA FETT. Lifetime Pass was given years ago. Deal with it.

  • June 29, 2011, 2:33 p.m. CST

    and another thing quaker

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    There are many things that Spielberg SHOULD direct..he doesnt have the time. Just becasue Stevie couldnt fit Captain America into his schedule doesnt mean the film will be an instant fail.

  • June 29, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Pity they went with the temple wings.

    by Gabe Athouse

    Even if they're stenciled on his helmet and flattened down on his Avengers uniform, they always sucked, and should have just been removed. Fuck comic book purists. If it sucks, lose it. You have fond memories of the wings from your childhood? I have fond memories of thinking the wings were stupid and wishing they'd get rid of them in my childhood. Oh, and since Weaving's doing a Herzog impression, I've decided to root for the Red Skull. That I prefer his fashion sense should only help matters.

  • June 29, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Joe Johnston = Curtis Hanson

    by Continentalop

    A journeyman director who has enough experience to craft a great movie. At least that is what I am hoping for. Before L.A Confidential Hanson was a competent but hardly great director who had made a number of films are varying quality: Little Dragons, Losin' It, The Hand That Rocks The Cradle, Bedroom Window, River Wild. Nothing that screamed "great" until he made LA Confidential. So hopefully with a decent script, years of Johnston honing his craft will pay off. Hopefully.

  • June 29, 2011, 2:43 p.m. CST

    So a guys fashion sense...

    by Continentalop

    ...and the sound of his accent is more important than the fact he fights for a group that wants to exterminate an entire race of people and conquer half the globe? Glad to know your priorities hyperdyne. (Plus the wings painted on his head gear breaks it up, otherwise it would have an ugly image of a pure blue globe on top of his head. It isn't like Batman's cowl which has wings to give it an interesting and dynamic shape...)

  • June 29, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Choppah....Johnston resume'

    by Quake II

    The Rocketeer had moments of greatness but as a whole it was merely good. That's the high point of his career imo. Honey I Shrunk The Kids was amusing but not something I need to own. Jurassic Park III was actually BETTER than Jurassic Park II but still not great. Boba Fett is a legendary character design and yes, Johnston should have a lifetime of kudos for that alone, but his directing skills are kind of flat. His movies are rarely BAD but never GREAT. They're just...there. He's never had a major "hit". Honey I Shrunk is probably his biggest grossing film. I just think everyone coming on here yelling about how AMAZING Captain America will be need to proceed with caution. Hate to see more upset fanboys.

  • June 29, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Okay, maybe a bad comparison...

    by loafroaster

    This is going to make an absolute shit-ton of money, but let's face it; Uwe Boll could direct it and it still would break the bank, it's got 'America' in the title. But it's gonna be a 2/5 movie, 3/5 at best, mark my words. I'd love to be proved wrong, I'd love an awesome Captain America move as much as the next guy, but everything I've seen/heard so far does not bode well. Creepy, fake-looking CGI skinny Evans? Re-jigging the Cosmic Cube? Crazy sci-fi weapons in WWII? A French Dum-Dum Dugan? And just look at that image of the plastic-faced Red Skull above. How fucking goofy does that look?

  • June 29, 2011, 2:49 p.m. CST

    bibleman...Saving Private Ryan? Munich?

    by Quake II

    Catch Me If You Can? Spielberg has turned out some brilliant work since The Lost World. And as bad as The Lost World was, Hook was the lowpoint in his career. I HATE that movie.

  • June 29, 2011, 3:02 p.m. CST

    bibleman..To each his own as they say.

    by Quake II

    I actually prefer the LAST twenty minutes of SPR. That battle to defend the town is wicked cool. Much more intense and well choreographed action than the Normandy scenes. Munich is brilliant and one of his best. I still feel that Spielberg is the greatest showman we currently have making movies. He's a master at his craft and even his duds are better than most directors best films. I don't like War Of The Worlds that much but I won't lie, there was some intense shit in that movie and I was riveted through most of it.

  • If you don't consider that a hit...you should be tested for mental retardation.

  • And that poster is fricking awesome.

  • June 29, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Marvel shouldnt look at DC for any king of business model

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    they have single-handedly fucked up Superman with the ongoing lawsuits between the creators estate and studio/label. They seem to be running scared now that Batman is coming to a glorified end. But that is one step closer to Stephen Lang donning the cowl in DARK KNIGHT RETURNS

  • June 29, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST

    'CHOPPAH Man' by THE CHOPPAH

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    It's two o'clock on a Wednesday The regular crowd is logging in There's a 40-yr-old typin' next to me Bitchin' about his comics and Tintin. He says, "CHOP, can you please lay off of me. I'm not really sure how to respond. I'm trying to eat while attempting trying to beat This burrito in my Supes underoos." la la la, di da da La la, di di da da dum (CHORUS) CHOP us a fool, you're the CHOPPAH man CHOP us a fool tonight Well, we're all in the mood for some CHOPPIN' And you've got us all feelin' all right Now Cobes at the bar is a friend of mine He lets me in the Dojo for free, And he's quick with a joke and he'll roll ya a smoke But there's some place that he'd rather be He says, "CHOP, I believe this is killing me," As his smile ran away from his face, "Well I'm sure that I could be a karate star If I could get out of AICN." Oh, la la la, di da da La la, di da da da dum Now ceejay's a Transformers lover Who's never had desire for a wife And there's my friend Asi, who's indeed quite crazy and wants to end JarJar Abrams' life. And Mr. Beaks is wankin' to rape films As Massawyrm quickly gets stoned Yes, they're sharing a life with Harold Knowles But it's better than geekin' alone. (CHORUS) CHOP us a fool, you're the CHOPPAH man CHOP us a fool tonight Well, we're all in the mood for some CHOPPIN' And you've got us all feelin' all right It's a pretty good crowd for a Wednesday And my buddy Quint gives me a smile 'Cause he knows that it's me the geeks've been comin' to see To whine about their life for a while And my CHOPPING, it befits a true carnivore And Ryan Dunn's remains smell like a beer The geeks sit at home, buffing their meat dome And say, "CHOP, so what if I'm queer?" Oh, la la la, di da da La la, di da da da dum (CHORUS) CHOP us a fool, you're the CHOPPAH man CHOP us a fool tonight Well, we're all in the mood for some CHOPPIN' And you've got us all feelin' all right

  • June 29, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Also, the budget of Hangover 2 was only 35 million

    by Bobo_Vision

    No huge sci fi budget.

  • June 29, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    bibleman

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    They couldnt afford my luxuries. I have a massive child support payments and alimony. Also the white vader ain't free, especially if you spread around the whores. Chuck knows what I'm talkin bout

  • June 29, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    One massive issue I cannot get round...

    by Lemure_v2

    Captain America took drugs to become strong quickly. A year in the military would give him strength and training. Secondly, he uses a gun. I appreciate the period setting, but NO superheroes use guns, only vigilantes. I really hope they address these issues in the film otherwise it's a huge plot/character hole.

  • June 29, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST

    lemure_v2

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    1. These aren't merely "drugs" he takes, and a year of PT in the Army wouldn't increase his actual height and body constitution as depicted in the film. 2. Why is he using a gun? Maybe because he's a soldier fighting a fukkin war. CHOPPED.

  • June 29, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Wait...

    by smatt584

    Did I just read somebody say the knife fight in Saving Private Ryan seems like a 'liberal rape scene'? Either you're high, or you have a Fincher-esque vision of rape. I think its pretty safe to say that, for a normal person, someone getting a knife in the lungs after a brutal fist fight should not call to mind anything sexual. That's your baggage, not the films.

  • June 29, 2011, 3:57 p.m. CST

    This looks terrible

    by Joe

    Chris Evans can't act worth shit. Tommy Lee Jones looks like he's picking up another paycheck spouting off generic war cliches. The FX look cartoony as hell. Looks like Green Lantern all over again.

  • June 29, 2011, 3:58 p.m. CST

    I just want to know why its gotta be 'liberal'?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    I mean, such blind ideology-based hatred does not bode well for the land of the free.

  • Feel good movie of the summer.

  • June 29, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    budkilmer721

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Chris Evans can act worth shit - check out Sunshine. Tommy Lee Jones looks like he's giving this part his all and considering this is Captain America, one should expect a few war cliches. The FX look fine. This will be not be Green Lantern all over again.

  • June 29, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Sounds as great as it looks!

    by Ivan_Mtl

    This Canadian is really looking forward to seeing Captain America! I hope that it is a huge success and that future sequels are set in WWII as well. Bring on Baron Zemo!

  • June 29, 2011, 4:05 p.m. CST

    its a comic book. people hate comic books.

    by Shermdawg

    Once again, that's not true. More like indifferent. Comic aren't widely available for them to hate.

  • June 29, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST

    choppah

    by smatt584

    Apparently he doesn't think Conservatives care about rape enough to use the themes in a movie... (he may have a point there)

  • June 29, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Looks like Pyun's got a sense of humor about his Cap movie

    by rev_skarekroe

    That's a good thing. The costume in that was perfectly comic book accurate. Aside from the rubber ears...

  • June 29, 2011, 4:58 p.m. CST

    One of the big problems with Comic to Movie Adaptations

    by tphile2

    Is that they condense or edit down the history, storyline, character development way to much to fit a single movie or at most a trilogy. Like in X-Men First Class, it has to deal with everything that results in the trilogy, forming the Brotherhood, Mystique becoming an adversary, Beast turning blue, and the wheelchair. With Cap, it sounds like its going from The Super Soldier formula to getting buried in ice. with little room or time for other adventures on other fronts, other villians, etc. Cap should be showing up more than Wolverine or Spiderman. He should be on the front lines of every front including The Pacific, Africa, Italy and Normandy. Building his legend and fame. The Red Skull was not the only WWII supervillian in his rogues gallery

  • June 29, 2011, 4:58 p.m. CST

    X-Men First Class was my #1 this summer.

    by Quake II

    I hope Joe Johnston's science fiction, alien technology driven Captain America movie (WITH PLASMA BOLTS & LAZER FIGHTS! YEAH!) takes over that spot but so far I'm not seeing it kids. Fingers crossed! I'll make a wish on my Hydra logo'd German Sdf 222 armored car.

  • But I'm far from being an expert.

  • June 29, 2011, 5:20 p.m. CST

    isn't the ABOMINATION borne of a similar super soldier serum?

    by zom-bot.com

  • June 29, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST

    I like the poster a lot but the guns are bullshit.

    by Quake II

    WTF are the Howlin' Commandos holding? Are those supposed to be badly drawn British Sten guns or shotguns with pistol grips or futuristic weapons that don't exist??? The only "real world" gun I see is the Luger P-08 being fired at the shield. The trailer shows them bursting in the door firing Stens, Thompsons and shotguns. That's a major pet peeve of mine when an artist thinks "I'll just draw guns from my memory. The average person doesn't know what guns were used". With the saturation of World War 2 movies and video games I guarantee you that MANY kids under the age of 12 can tell you the difference between an MP-40, an Stg44, Thompson, Sterling and M1 Garand.

  • ...Specifically so that there are plenty of WWII adventures left that they can reveal in the future.

  • June 29, 2011, 6:57 p.m. CST

    The Invaders are not The Howling Commandos

    by deelzbub

    and vice versa that's like calling the fire department the police department

  • plus a few other factors. But Ted Sallis was trying to replicate it. Man-Thing cameo in Dr Strange movie, please

  • June 29, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST

    genderblender ...You're probably right.

    by Quake II

    The Luger is so well drawn that it wouldn't make sense for the same artist to fuck up the other guns. I would definately prefer period weapons in that period poster though. The rifles at the bottom pull me out of the era a bit. My fear is seeing laser fights with Americans and Brits versus Judge Dredd (the film) rip-off black armored Hydra soldiers in the 1940's will pull me WAY out of the movie.

  • June 29, 2011, 8:57 p.m. CST

    bibleman AKA cunt...

    by uberfreak

    go floss your teeth on Jesus' ball fro. BEWARE though, they didn't bath much 2000 years ago so you might end up with more than a few dozen dingleberries down your throat.

  • June 29, 2011, 8:57 p.m. CST

    ok bibleman, I'll bite

    by smatt584

    What is the metaphor of the 'rape-knifing', genius?

  • June 29, 2011, 8:59 p.m. CST

    genderblender is very persuasive

    by CT1

    I want to live in the world she imagines could be, she brings up great points about retribution and destruction and removal of the.. "General Audience".. of which I feel no remorse nor joy at the concept of, they are simply a cancer that needs to be stopped and eradicated before we allow it to eventually destroy all of us. That being said, you fans better enjoy this.. there will be NEVER be another era of comic book movies like now, and if there is you'll either be very old and won't care anymore or be very dead and won't care anymore, so keep lapping up the intellectually cheap stupid General Audience shit they give you, since it's too late now.. the time has passed, we're entering the final dark stages that proceed inevitable ceasing of existence. After the Avengers, it's over, done, so sad, hope you enjoyed it.. Cinematic Batman has pretty much become a huge beast that crushes all of it's own counter-parts and roots, and stands apart as a majestic behemoth of perfection and art (so people say), and is basically a seperate entity, freeing itself of it's "dirty" comic book origins and ties, so it'll live on forever as they milk it and whore it out for decades like a good little franchise. Content runs out, oversaturation occurs, and death for most the product population is achieved. Goodbye comic-book movies, you were very much like life.. mostly stupid fucking garbage shit most the time, with a few breath-taking mind-opening beautiful vistas that made it all worth it.

  • I'm calling it now. All AIC requires is a gift and you have bought yourself positive reviews.

  • June 29, 2011, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Bibleman

    by smatt584

    Methinks you confuse bad innuendo for allegory. You want symbolism, how about this for some amateur interpretation; what if the knife fight symbolises the slow murder of the Jewish people by the nazi regime, in which America stands idly by until it's too late. You could at least use that as a functional metaphor and run with it. I'd say that works a shitload better than; "the knife is like a cock that the nazis put into the jews". Oh, but you're so fucking deep, you've obviously put much more thought into this than I (about three minutes by my estimate, including the typing on my iphone). "lit 101", lol, this is exactly why they shouldn't let running start kids in the swamps of Alabama have access to the Internet.

  • June 29, 2011, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Cotton Mcknight

    by smatt584

    You know how ignorant that mentality is right? A mindset like that gives no room for free thought. Either he dislikes it or he was bought off? Thats false logic. There is another obvious and rational option there that you are purposely ignoring (the movie is not bad and/or Quint actually likes it). From this attitude we could assume one of two things; either you have already decided to dislike the movie before watching it, (purposeful ignorance), or that you want to give Quint shit regardless of fault or wrong doing on his part. That makes you either a 'hater' (Jesus, I hate that term), or a troll. Either way, fuck that. (ps-if you were joking I take it back)

  • June 29, 2011, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Just found out I get to see this on Thursday!

    by ShogunMaster

    I get to see it at a trade screening, so hopefully it's awesome...

  • June 29, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Choppah

    by Darth_Kong

    Nothing beats CAN'T CHOP THIS.

  • June 30, 2011, 1:42 a.m. CST

    It sucks that they probably won't go balls out and

    by Dennis_Moore

    and have The All-Winners Squad/The Invaders from the books in a movie. Marvel Studios plays it too safe. I blame Feige and Hurd.

  • ...responded saying it's non-bias and they cover DC and Marvel alike. But based on these posts, some people are wondering if "set visits" or "gifts" alter reviews? 'must investigate further'

  • June 30, 2011, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Jack Kirby's friend, assistant, and biographer

    by Dennis_Moore

    Mark Evanier said that The King was a liberal who despised Republicans, so there is that. Joe Simon, I don't know, as I haven't read his autobio that just came out, yet.

  • June 30, 2011, 3:55 a.m. CST

    CHOPPAHman does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    CHOP, you took one of my all-time fave songs - and improved it! Ha! I know we're only six months in but I think the 'post of the year' contest is over...

  • And that's another reason why he's the King!! VIVA LA KIRBY!

  • June 30, 2011, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Pyun's Craptain America did have it's moments.

    by Stalkeye

    at least there was a swastika in Skull's headquarters/rocket base. But afterwards, the movie went way downhill. Still not getting the rubber ears, the italian Skull and especially Matt Salinger as cap. Atleast Albert acknowleged he made a shitty film well, corman's FF was the shittiest Marvel based film anyway.

  • June 30, 2011, 8:55 a.m. CST

    A question about Red Skull.

    by v3d

    Does the carpet match the drapes?

  • June 30, 2011, 9:37 a.m. CST

    now that aicn truncates posts

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    we make even less sense

  • and comic book publishers drop their prejudices and fears (and prices) and embrace the new medium. Comics and graphic novels were born to be on a crisp colorful tablet screen where you can zoom into the detail and easily wipe off the jizz after you shoot your load onto Emma Frost's cleavage.

  • June 30, 2011, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Love the classic poster!

    by impossibledreamers

  • June 30, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    genderblender ..I wouldn't doubt it at all.

    by Quake II

    Any excuse to tie in the Avengers. But in Iron Man 1 & 2 and Thor the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents didn't have any sci-fi tech. Maybe all the tech is destroyed in a massive explosion or the Cosmic Cube sucks it back in. Who knows. I would still rather see a bare bones period piece with just Cap and the Allies vs Nazis and save the crazy sci-fi shit for later stories.

  • June 30, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST

    You flatter me, Cobes.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    There is no praise higher than that which the Dojo proclaims.

  • June 30, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    genderblender, what is your point?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    It's still the number one Box Office grossing film of the year so far, regardless of what the twatwaffles say in the trades.

  • June 30, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    @genderblender

    by Thomas

    I just gotta say, your Trolling comment was pretty ridiculous. I have loved comic books all my life...and society tends to accept me. I don't feel that I have anything more to give to society than any other person because I read comic books. If a person judges me for being a nerd then that is their problem, and a ridiculous judgement on their part. It doesn't bring me down. But I would never imagine that that person doesn't have some sort of merits that they can give to the world. Saying people who do not like "intellectual" things will eventually be sitting in their own urine, wasting away is one of the least "intellectual" things I have ever read in my whole life. And bibleman....I have taken Lit 101 and 102 and 200 levels and 300 levels and 400 levels and masters classes and I know what symbolism is...I generally take that scene as a guy not wanting to get stabbed...and then someone stabbing him

  • June 30, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    merc, don't waste your time with bibleman

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    I bet he hides in bushes spying on Gay Rights rallies.

  • June 30, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Chops

    by Thomas

    in his defense I bet they can be entertaining. Also, you're a fellow Houston guy right?

  • June 30, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    style of fight scenes?

    by Calico Pete

    Other than in the trailers, has anyone heard about, or seen, anything indicating the style of fight scenes? After years of debates in the geek community about who would win in a fight, Cap or Iron Fist, Cap or Batman, etc etc I hope we can see the kind of amazing hand-to-hand choreography one would expect form a superhero (rather than "human"-level action, like Bond, Bourne, old-school fisticuffs, or even Matrix-like martial arts). I love the way Black Widow fought in her Iron Man 2 set-piece. I love the Nightcrawler fight at the beginning of X2. The way Spidey fights in the recent movies. Even the way Tim Roth moved in his fight with the Hulk in The Incredible Hulk (pre-transformation) hinted at what a true supersoldier could do. I'm waiting for the next evolution of super-hero fight scenes that don't look like wirework, classic choreography, or chopped-to-shit editing. Hopefully Captain America embraces its potential in this regard. (Thor certainly didn't, w/some minor hammer-twirling exceptions.)

  • June 30, 2011, 2:39 p.m. CST

    I'm missing another Genderblender rant? Let me get my popcorn...

    by skycrapper

    Dick in a blender? What? I think you missed the mark on that one.

  • June 30, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Oh, Jeez, genderblender, not you too with the right wing ideology

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    You're one screwed up broad-dude-it, whatever the hell you are.

  • June 30, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    genderblender

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    i want 4 you to use teh spel chk on you comptuer

  • June 30, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST

    The boxoffice superhero flick winner will be...THOR.

    by ninpobugei

    While I think X-MEN: FIRST CLASS will be this summer's best superhero flick (with THOR a close second, IMO), I think THOR will win for total box office. While CAPTAIN AMERICA may do well domestically, I think that anti-American sentiment around the world will pretty much doom the foreign box office. I just can't see it matching, let alone beating, THOR's current $437 million.

  • June 30, 2011, 7:22 p.m. CST

    you guys, genderblender is having a laugh with you

    by BadMrWonka

    this is clearly a joke meant to rile you guys up. you can't honestly believe that a guy claiming a movie that's made half a billion dollars is a flop, right? no one is that dumb. he's just playing a character and having fun with you guys. leave it alone and he'll go away.

  • July 1, 2011, 2:06 a.m. CST

    @ Monolith Jones

    by AlbertPyun

    I think Steve Tolkien, the writer of my CA version, was attempting to get away from the stereotypical Nazi as villain and tried to incorporate Fascism's need to please its Nazi masters. The Director's cut of Capt America touches on more aspects of heroes used as propaganda and how governments with political views will use any symbol they can get their hands on to sell a public on their intents. Steve really tried to hold governments accountable for how they try to create and market their heroes, no matter the cost to that hero.

  • July 1, 2011, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Thanks Stalkeye!

    by AlbertPyun

    Hope you get a chance to see my Director's Cut of CA which never has been seen until now. Its great for my version to get theatrical screenings in Las Vegas (July 2) and Austin (July 17). I can bear everyone thinking it shit but at least see my version before passing judgement.

  • July 1, 2011, 4:35 a.m. CST

    Are you kidding me?

    by Winston Smith

    Summer 2011 is SO much better than Summer 2010. Last summer only had Inception, if it hadn't of had that it would have been truly worthless. Oh yeah, sorry, but TS3 to me was average, mediocre, unremarkable. Yet I found Up to one of the most spectacular and emotionally involving films ever made. Opinions...

  • July 1, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST

    by gary

    ah jeez don`t tell me it was filmed at shepperton !!! i only live 10 minutes away..hell you could have borrowed my spare room and saved yourself some dollars.....

  • July 1, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST

    genderblender

    by BadMrWonka

    on what planet is the half billion take for Hangover 2 disappointing? you realize that you can't just make up facts. give me ANY source from the studio or anyone involved that describes Hangover 2's 500 million dollar take as disappointing. don't worry, I'll wait. you can have as many crazy opinions as you like, but when you start speaking for the studios as though whatever nonsense you make up is gospel, that's just silly.

  • July 1, 2011, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Bad news about Thor 2

    by deelzbub

    Marvel signed the turd who wrote FF2 and Super-exgirlfriend to write the screenplay.

  • July 2, 2011, 12:58 p.m. CST

    @dennis_moore that would be too much for an origin story

    by sunwukong86

    They would have to introduce every Invader, along with establishing Cap.

  • July 2, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    this years LXG?go away DC fan boy.....

    by JokerFC

  • July 3, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    albert pyun - sword and and the sorceror

    by electraglide

    My favourite film when I was a kid...3 blade sword!!

  • July 6, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Quint.

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    Great article. Keep up the fantastic work.

  • July 9, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    albert pyun

    by solitaire

    There was some real charm in your film, and I saw a longer version on a bootleg years ago, before there was an official vhs release - it had him meeting with the resistance and a few other scenes. Where it began to fail was in that Cap's legend was cemented in WWII, where he was in countless battles and became a symbol of freedom and democracy. In your film, he is a capsicle a few hours into his first op. I read an interview with the writer where he talked about "hating Cap's stupid costume" and how he tried to have him wear it as little as possible so people wouldn't laugh at it (it was in an old issue of Comics Scene). I'm guessing this is the same reason The Skull is only the Skull for a few moments, and then turns into burn ward al pachino for the rest of the film. You can't succeed with that kind of thinking. Yes, the rubber ears and big red nose were not great choices, and I spend a great deal of the film wondering if Beatty ever says to Cox behind the scenes "Well, this beats faking sodomy" or how many takes Salinger went through to deliver "Gee Wiz!" without cracking up - the guy did seem committed to the role, no one can deny that -I don't doubt that you wanted to make a great film, had a vision and tried your best to deliver. I appreciate the effort you put in, and the cast you assembled - after all, anything with Darren McGavin is worth seeing.

  • July 11, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    albert pyun's cap

    by andrea sfiligoi

    I rented the VHS many years ago and I loved it. For that time, and that budget, it had some nice touches. Plus, I'm Italian and the FIAT 500 (small car) scene was cute. I think making Red Skull a fascist was too much of a change from the comics, and of course hoped for more shield throwing action, but overall it was a fun movie.

  • July 11, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    albert pyun's cap

    by andrea sfiligoi

    Although I wonder where the scriptwriter picked up the name "Tadzio" for the Italian Skull... Maybe from Tazio Nuvolari. But it's "Tazio" not "Tadzio". :-)

  • July 16, 2011, 9:53 a.m. CST

    all Pyun's Cap needed was more Red Skull/WWII action

    by chien_sale

    with Cap kicking Nazi butts. I didn't mind the modern stuff but the brief Cap vs RK fight was epic.

  • July 16, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    you know Red Skull sort of look like Michael Jackson

    by chien_sale

  • July 18, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    albertpyun

    by HughHoyland

    I think your CA is getting the blue ray treatment. I'll check it out for sure. Also do you have anything else in the works at the moment director wise?