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Christopher Meloni, who won’t be back on “Law & Order: SVU” next season, is in negotiations for a “major role” in the latest Superman movie.

Meloni has a hairline similar to those of Gene Hackman and Kevin Spacey.

If his deal closes he’ll join Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Russell Crowe, Julia Ormond, Kevin Costner and Diane Lane, none of whom are playing Lex Luthor.

Zack Snyder (“Watchmen,” “Legend of the Guardians,” “Sucker Punch”) directs from a screenplay by David Goyer (“Blade Trinity,” “Blade: The Series,” “Batmand Begins,” “The Unborn” “Threshold,” “FlashForward”).

Meloni played Hal Jordan in the animated “Green Lantern: First Flight.” His other credits include “Oz,” “Bound,” “Twelve Monkeys,” “NYPD Blue,” “Runaway Bride,” “Wet Hot American Summer,” and the “Harold & Kumar” movies.

Find Deadline’s story on the matter here.


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  • June 25, 2011, 12:02 a.m. CST

    You can't have it

    by JamesWest


  • June 25, 2011, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Just wanted to stop

    by JamesWest

    Just wanted to stop some idiot from saying "first" like a ten-year-old.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:04 a.m. CST

    As to Christopher Meloni...

    by JamesWest

    In his SUV TV show he had no range at all. It was the serious look and the curt, gravely, monotone delivery in every single scene. He was a boring actor!

  • June 25, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Wet Hot American Summer is all it took for me.

    by oogles

    I love Meloni in that movie. According to EW a sequel is in the works too.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST


    by dahveed1972

    Seriously though, CM would make a good LL if theyre going for the superscientist/gordon gecko version of the character. Meloni's physicality and intensity could bring a new intimidating aspect to lex. Although hes been on that show for so long, it might be hard at first to accept him as a supervillain. Assuming hes actually playing LL. if not, ive just wasted 5 precious minutes of my life.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:12 a.m. CST

    maybe he will play Zod's right hand man

    by Rupee88

    sort of like that Non character. I know there is a Kryptonian chick but I hope we don't see Superman getting his ass kicked by a girl. Hopefully Zack Snyder realizes that is not cool. Like Wolverine fighting that chick in X2 was so weak.

  • no tricks...they actually showed piss coming out of his cock into a fucking bucket. Oz was fucked up.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:13 a.m. CST

    First of all, he would be an awesome Lex Luthor.

    by Rev. Slappy

    Second, is Lex in the movie? I had read Lex was in it like the Joker was "in" Batman Begins.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Perry White

    by ScribeOz

    I'd say he's Perry White. Meloni's a good TV actor but I think they'd want someone with a bigger name for Luthor.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:22 a.m. CST

    He's playing Lana Lang?

    by Triple_J_72

    Somebody mentioned "LL," and well, you know... ha... sorry. :-P

  • June 25, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Still, more good casting

    by Iahael

    Snyder and Nolan don't seem to be fooling around with this, I like where it seems to be going. Meloni's a good actor, and would make a pretty scary and ruthless Luthor work, especially vs Cavill as Superman. Yeah. OK. This could actually be good, alchemical casting. Now, if he is Perry White, that might be inspired or insipid. Nah. He's made for it, 21st century Lex. T.'.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Billy Zane

    by sjfatty

    would be better

  • June 25, 2011, 12:39 a.m. CST

    I WANT Clancy Brown for Lex Luthor!

    by Judge Briggs

  • June 25, 2011, 12:40 a.m. CST

    SOMETHING is wrong

    by 2soon2eat

    Can you feel it? Something is wrong with this production. I'm getting a post Watchmen vibe here. Call it a "disturbance in the force." Something just doesn't feel right with this film. Young Superman full of angst = Lame Old Superman over burdened with responsibility = perfect. Why can't we see an older Superman film?

  • June 25, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST

    One look at him and you know he'll play Lex

    by David Cloverfield

    That's a very good sign for a casting decision.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Too bad Clancy is old :( He's perfect, but

    by David Cloverfield

    I like my Luthor younger, full of energy, like he was in tas.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Zack Snyder should be a photographer

    by Tim Reuschling

    not a director

  • June 25, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Enough with Lex Luthor.....give us Doomsday!

    by Punisherthunder

    Or Brainiac or Metallo. Somebody other than Luthor for once.

  • June 25, 2011, 1:13 a.m. CST

    He will be Lex Luthor...

    by elgato73

    Or he won't. But anyway, he'd perfect as Lex. If not Lex, maybe they'll make him Perry White. But if not Perry, maybe Zod's right hand man, Jax Ur.

  • June 25, 2011, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Everything is great about this film except the director

    by kafka07

    I'm liking the cast choices though. Great so far!

  • June 25, 2011, 1:28 a.m. CST


    by Transhuman

    Be Lex Luthor.

  • June 25, 2011, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Where has it been said we will have a 'young, angsty Superman'

    by Larry Sellers

    I'm often confused by what people consider young around seems every time an actor/actress in their mid-20s is cast, someone shouts "ANGST! TWILIGHT!" For excellent examples of this, see any comments posted under the most recent Amazing Spider-Man news at superherohype...these people are complaining that Andrew Garfield looks too much like Robert Pattinson so the movie MUST be pandering to the Twilight crowd...there's just no rational basis for that backlash. Let's let the story and characters speak for know, once we actually have plot and an idea of who/what we're seeing here.

  • June 25, 2011, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Terry O'Quinn should be Lex Luthor.

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    Hugh Laurie for Perry White. Wait, Jeff Fahey as Perry White. And Matthew Fox as Clark and Evangeline Lilly as Lois. Haha, kidding about the last two. Seriously, Fahey would be awesome in anything. We're not going to Metropolis, are we?

  • June 25, 2011, 2:18 a.m. CST

    RIP Dolly Parton

    by cockstankbuttnasty

  • June 25, 2011, 2:19 a.m. CST

    He was Green Lantern in First Flight

    by wattos new hat

    I liked him in that

  • June 25, 2011, 2:26 a.m. CST

    World premiere of Superman!!!!


  • June 25, 2011, 3:28 a.m. CST


    by TopHat

    D O N E ! ! !

  • June 25, 2011, 3:30 a.m. CST

    I agree with kafka07 and sierratangofoxtrotuniform

    by Professor_Monster

    Snyder is a TERRIBLE choice for this movie - he casting is spot on fantastic so far, but Snyder bypasses story for flashing lights and explosions. Every single frame is cluttered - as opposed to how Nolan handles Batman- there are times where the audience and characters need to breath. Donner knew this and Singer only slowed down to put in moments "borrowed" from the Donner movies. O'Quinn would be an AWESOME Luthor- but they need to make Luthor like Hemingway - one of those great white hunter type men who sees everything as a challenge. He's not Supermans rival - he hunts him - both mentally and physically.

  • June 25, 2011, 4:15 a.m. CST

    I miss Oz

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    absolutely brilliant show though it has set the standard for me in regards to prison scenes, so any prison scenes on network tv or PG rated movies just don't cut it for me

  • June 25, 2011, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Lex Luthor AGAIN????

    by V'Shael

    Oh I have a brilliant idea. He should be involved in some sort of Real Estate scam. You guys are fucking idiots.

  • June 25, 2011, 4:53 a.m. CST

    JK Simmons should be Perry as revenge

    by textual

    This Spider-Man reboot cost us the perfect JJJ.

  • June 25, 2011, 5:06 a.m. CST

    My first choice for The Punisher

    by PreciousRoy

    Meloni would have made an awesome Frank Castle. Just voiceover narrative, Frank not saying shit until he needs to or wants to.

  • June 25, 2011, 5:16 a.m. CST

    Please don't be Lex

    by elsewhere

    I like Meloni, but I think he's wrong for the part.

  • June 25, 2011, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Will he ass rape Superman like he did to dudes on OZ?

    by Drunken Busboy

    Can't be worse than giving Supes a kid! Would make the movie interesting!

  • June 25, 2011, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Lex is not a villain but a supporting character.

    by David Cloverfield

    He is an arch nemesis. He should never be completely defeated, but an ongoing concern. So he shouldn't be the main bad guy in the new movie. Even if Supes beats guys like Darkseid or Zod the little guy endures. It's pretty inspiring. I bet he'll be present in MOS (and steal most scenes. A well written Luthor will do that.) but not be the main bad guy.

  • idiots.

  • June 25, 2011, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Metallo I bet.

    by antmanx68

    I can dig it.

  • June 25, 2011, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Meloni has NO PRESENCE at all, DON'T make him LEX!!!

    by Drath

    I'm getting very underwhelmed by Snyder's casting of the villains. A dull yank as Zod, and then this failed voice of Hal Jordan to play Lex Luthor?! NO!!! Enough! Do not squander my good will after the Cavill and Ryan casting!

  • June 25, 2011, 7:22 a.m. CST

    I've no problem with Luthor being 'behind the scenes'...

    by workshed

    ...pulling the strings. That's what Lex does and does best. It's like having Holmes without Moriarty's omnipresence. A bit like AICN.? I would like to see some Darkseid action though. 'Twould be cool and see the film series go somewhere new for a bloody change.

  • June 25, 2011, 7:28 a.m. CST

    I agree, Meloni is Perry White, not Luthor...

    by brocknroll

    ...can't see him as Lex. He's more fitting for Perry White. Meloni's a good actor. I was a big "Oz" fan and liked him in "SVU".

  • June 25, 2011, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Snyder is the director

    by kwisatzhaderach

    The entire project is doomed.

  • June 25, 2011, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Somebody better keep an eye on the BUDGET!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Casting Crowe and Costner could inflate the budget due to bookend deals both actors may have in place. Any Supes films is gonna require lots of money already! And Snyder ego could make this reboot more expensive than Singer Superman Return! Plus lets not forget Nolan IN NAME ONLY is on the payroll. Thats more money the film needs to get back!

  • June 25, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Zod and Lex? Again?? Really???

    by Yeti

    Over. It.

  • June 25, 2011, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Ray Liotta should be Lex Luthor.

    by ChickenStu

  • June 25, 2011, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Meloni as Corben?

    by JorEl214

  • June 25, 2011, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Henry Cavill is a piece of shit

    by Nabster

    Why the hell did they cast this black hole of personality? Is this really the best they could do?

  • June 25, 2011, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Dave Chapelle for luthor

    by Nabster

    Obviously Meloni is being cast as Luthor. It's time they made Lex black.

  • June 25, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    ZOD and LEX

    by kyle espeleta

    man, does zod even exist in the comics? hands down two of the most lame boring villains for a man thats on par with thor for super powers. thor fights giants, monsters, giant space robots etc--can they get ANY other villains for superman to fight that are cinematically cooler than a bald businessman? warners is probably scared of going too comick-y now with green lanterns box office, which im sure theyll ascribe more having to do with space aliens than an awful shoddy script and lackluster direction. synders sucker punch looked unwatchable and 300 is embarrasingly homo erotic with the awful gerard butler yelling and mugging. BUT watchmen gives me hope this could be okay. the sequence with koyannisquatsi on mars is fantastic and the movie as a whole is nice visually and tonally pretty cool. again which is weird because the trailers for sucker punch made me want to vomit.

  • June 25, 2011, 9:15 a.m. CST

    i was in the viet-nam war

    by mick vance

    as long as he's not luthor, i'm cool with this. now, if you'll excuse me, i have to go fondle my sweaters and smear some mud on my ass.

  • June 25, 2011, 9:15 a.m. CST

    i was in the viet-nam war

    by mick vance

    as long as he's not luthor, i'm cool with this. now, if you'll excuse me, i have to go fondle my sweaters and smear some mud on my ass.

  • June 25, 2011, 9:15 a.m. CST

    i was in the viet-nam war

    by mick vance

    as long as he's not luthor, i'm cool with this. now, if you'll excuse me, i have to go fondle my sweaters and smear some mud on my ass.

  • June 25, 2011, 9:15 a.m. CST

    i mean...

    by mick vance

    i hear my pal bud's in class...

  • June 25, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    I immediately thought of Brainiac (he's bald too).

    by JTStarkiller

    I mean yeah, Lex hasn't been cast yet and that's the logical choice, but I'm convinced Zod isn't the only baddie in this movie. I mean, we're like a year and a half away from this movie aren't we? I think they're keeping certain things a secret for a little while. I'm betting now, we're getting Brainiac.

  • June 25, 2011, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Josh Brolin

    by Juggernaut125

    for Lex.

  • June 25, 2011, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Awesome casting

    by Lourdes Galan

    Cavill, Crowe, Shannon, Costner, Lane,Ormond,.... Spectacular!

  • June 25, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Superman... let Bruce Campbell save this horrible mess!

    by workshed

    He'd be way fucking cooler than that imp they're hiring and would immediately negate the need for another load of origin shite.

  • It's actually depressing to see what seems like a good cast be rounded up for this. Goyer is terrible, and Snyder is not a good enough director to elevate his shitty writing. I want this to be good, I will be very happy if it is... but I just don't see how it could happen. Sigh.

  • June 25, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST

    First Singerman and now prison sex?

    by Gerry Manderin

    Do you notice a pattern here? I do. Lady Gagger will be on the soundtrack, and just married New York GLEE fans will push it to a two hundred thousand dollar opening weekend. Fukking count on it.


  • June 25, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Jason Issacs for Lex Luthor!

    by You Have MY Voice

    I'll keep saying it until the role is cast. But Meloni's an interesting choice, too.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:44 p.m. CST

    The Brave and the Bold

    by clarntoon

    I know they wanted two superman movies and two batman movies, then WB was going to drop the brave and the bold. Singer ready f'ed that up for them. I'd like to think it's still an option, just not sure we will get a Bail Bats anymore. Has anyone heard anymore on this since superman did a bellyflop onto his kid?

  • June 25, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST

    The Brave and the Bold

    by clarntoon

    I know they wanted two superman movies and two batman movies, then WB was going to drop the brave and the bold. Singer ready f'ed that up for them. I'd like to think it's still an option, just not sure we will get a Bail Bats anymore. Has anyone heard anymore on this since superman did a bellyflop onto his kid?

  • June 25, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    ... And please back seat lex for a few films.

    by clarntoon

  • June 25, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    How long until Geoff Johns is out as DC's Hollywood honcho?

    by OutsideChance

    Reports have surfaced that GL (which is largely based on the comics he wrote to begin with) was marked by massive interference from Johns (who is listed as a co-producer). The movie just dropped EIGHTY NINE percent this week. Now we have what looks like a similar clusterfuck in the making with Superman: the director of Suckerpunch, a huge overpaid cast and a story that was already told in movies several times. I would be surprised if he doesn't "decide" to return to writing comics full time after a "friendly meeting" with the suits at WB.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Should be "none of whom IS playing Lex Luthor."

    by Gabe Athouse

    Treat "none" grammatically as "one." Also, no more fuggin' Lex Luthor, please. Jesus.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Clancy Brown

    by ShadowVision

    I agree that Clancy Brown should be Lex Luthor. Has the luminous voice in the cartoons plus I bet he would look great bald.

  • June 25, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    He is a good actor, can't stand any Law and Order crap.

    by Mandolorian

    He did it and paid the bills for a while. Guy has chops. He was funnier than hell in Harold and Kumar and I hated those movies! I liked him in Oz too, man sex aside. He has a very creepy presence and plays a good villian. I doubt it will be Lex, probably one of Zods cronies.

  • June 25, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    You guys ever see "Wonder Showzen?"

    by fustfick

    When I hear "Chris Meloni" the first thing that comes to mind is his appearance on "Wonder Showzen." That shit was hilarious. I think he's great choice for Lex. And no matter what, this will be better than "Superman Returns."

  • June 25, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Timothy Dalton should be Luthor

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    Hell, even let him keep his accent and make lex a britt Meloini is a great actor and as long as the lex role is small, he'll do fine, but if lex is the main bad guy, i'd prefer to see a larger actor in the role also I just say sucker punch last week, That movie was awesome, why do aicn fanboys hate it, is it because girls make you feel funny down there?

  • June 25, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST

    He must be playing, Lex Luthor.

    by Tristan

    A major, secretive role? Lol just look at him...gotta be Lex. Probably, will be main villian in the sequel (if it will be made). I didn't see Sucker Punch, but I've seen Snyder's other films and while they look fantastic, there's something sorely lacking in his story telling (lack of emotion?).

  • June 25, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    What time period is this movie going to take place?

    by wackybantha

    The year 2012 or the 1930's or the 1950's or the year 3000? I must know! Somebody please find out and tell the world! I hope it's the 1930's.

  • June 25, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    subtitles_off: Again with the anti-gay rhetoric, huh?

    by AssyMuffJizz

    That's the first thing you latch onto in nearly every Talkback I see you in. There's no need to be that angry or resentful. Let go and allow yourself some solace.

  • Frankly, I think he's better for Perry White than Lex. He's got the attitude and look of a hardass news editor.

  • June 25, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Hey, assy! This is the first post I've made here.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You know those Choppah fuckers just love to reverse their letters. They're never "subtle." I'd ask you to post an apology, but, as usual, I don't much care about your homosexual hypersensitivity. I wouldn't expect you to watch yourself and be sure about what you're posting, any more than I expect it of myself. Still, I'd think you'd recognize the game since you play it yourself, as a quaint little play on Asimov's handle. That should be the first rule of Talkback: If you aren't clever enough to come up with your own name, you ought to crawl under your rock. I've heard AintItChoppahNews, AintItBaleNews, AintItAnywhereTheMalcontentsHangOut is DESPERATE for some attention.

  • June 25, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Ah, sorry. I was clearly duped.

    by AssyMuffJizz

    Accept my apology.

  • June 25, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Oh, genderblender. You had me at "AWESOME."

    by Subtitles_Off

    Except... Hollywood doesn't work that way. They don't make intelligent decisions based on a critical look at their past mistakes. Hollywood is lemming-like. We will have superhero movies until the very last dude who talks to fish has his very own trilogy rebooted. In thirty years, someone who's a toddler now will be Jar-Jar Abramsing his own "homage" to Nolan's Buttman. It's the future, ma'am. Might as well get used to it.

  • June 25, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Christopher Meloni has been cast as.....

    by PopCultureJunkie

    a general. Vulture reporting. Also, GenderBlender it wouldn't make sense that WB is going to shutdown production on Superman for two reasons: - Announcement of cast (especially today with Meloni - Everyone involved at this point

  • June 25, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Genderblender ...

    by PopCultureJunkie

    One more thing: WB has rights to superman until 2013.

  • June 25, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST


    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Who do I have to piss off to get my very own troll impersonator? cymbalta4cliverevill perhaps?

  • June 25, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Here's how to use Lex Luthor in the movie

    by iakobos

    Make him Clark's BFF. Yeah I know they did that with Smallville but Luthor originally being Clark's friend is part of the comic book cannon so it makes sense. And it makes Luthor becoming Supes main nemesis that much better.

  • June 25, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST


    by AssyMuffJizz

    Was it you in the Brave poster Talkback a few days ago?

  • June 25, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    cymbalta. One of The Choppahs.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You shouldn't have too much trouble. There are either half a dozen of them. Or, two, with half a dozen different handles each. Try insulting Nolan, Pixar, The Eighties, or whatever musical non-act is currently the rage. That's always worked for me.

  • June 25, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    BRAVE poster Talkback? No. Not that I recall.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Though, if whoever it was was blasting Pixar as over-rated, then I endorse some of the stuff they might have said.

  • June 25, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Off topic...

    by Subtitles_Off

    Peter Jackson..."I'm shooting [THE HOBBIT] in 3D just the same way I'd shoot it in 2D." Someone going to ask the obvious question? OK, then, I will...WHY?

  • June 25, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST


    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Pixar's pretty cool but as someone who lived through the Eighties I agree that both the movies and the music are overrated on here. And Nolan is basically Kubrick without the wit. Faux CHOPPING commences in 3... 2... 1...

  • guaranfuckingteed

  • June 25, 2011, 3:05 p.m. CST

    See, cymbalta. You've got a ways to go to catch up.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I've got a buncha my own personal trolls.

  • June 25, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST


    by hey_kobe_tell_me_how_your_ass_tastes

    i have never had anything to do or say to you because you hold no interest for me. you are a one note bore of the highest order, and more than likely are just a put-on anyway, because no one can be as asinine and monomaniacal for as long as you are without either a) be a total nutcase or b) being a total put on. so which is it? knowing you're history you will not answer a direct question so i expect no answer. but just realize that your own words damn you for what you are and what you believe

  • June 25, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Whoever he is playing Lex SHOULD be in the movie...

    by Andrew Coleman

    We already know Lex wouldn't be a main villain. This is how it should be, in the back ground, more wishing and helping in Superman's demise than actively going after him. That is the way it should work. I have no problem with this movie. The casting has been frankly perfect. Those who think Supes will be angsty or something are just making shit up to be mad about. Some guy also went on about how he hopes Meloni would be Zod's hench man because he didn't want Supes to fight a chick. What are you some uptight high school douche. Guys who don't like women in action films have serious issues.

  • He/she/they have really done their homework. It rivals even my extended tribute to AsimovLives. The lesson here? It shows that your virulent homophobia is well known around these parts, pretty much validating my concerns.

  • June 25, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST

    LEX & ZOD = Chicken shit . I am embarrassed for you.

    by the Green Gargantua

  • June 25, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    "i have never had anything to do or say to you"

    by Subtitles_Off

    Dude, do you believe anything you write? Since you didn't give me any correct choice, in your little fuck-headed multiple choice quiz, I'll answer C: I am neither a nutcase nor a total put-on. As to being "nonsensical and monomaniacal for so long," you have been trying to chap my ass going on two years now, so you disprove your own theory. As for my words "damn"ing me...son, you've got the brain and deductive skills of a pea. I still have no clue, whenever you pop up, what your insane ramblings are about. I've come to the conclusion that you genuinely think I'm the only other person on the AICN Talkbacks and every handle is some sort of disguise I've concocted in order to better be able to, um, what?, type stuff to myself? If a Talkbacker shares my opinion, you call them a sock-puppet. If they don't, you think it's a sock-puppet trying to throw you off the trail. Your sock-puppet theory inspired Choppah and their idiotic shenanigans, which you associate with me simply because I know them. The Muppets must've fukked you up as a child. You think I'm racist, as assymuffjizz thinks I'm homophobic. I don't care. Take assy's advise and let it go. You're not accomplishing any of the things you set out to do.

  • June 25, 2011, 4:09 p.m. CST

    I knew you would turn it into an "I told you so," assy.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Virulent homophobia.

  • June 25, 2011, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Dammit! Keep forgetting the quotations thing.

    by Subtitles_Off

    In brief... I suggested you might be Kobe's_Ass_Taste, since no one can pull a dumbass theory out of their assymuff and ride it for way too long quite like him. Other than you. Then, I typed "virulent homophobia" and sneered at you. Then, I explained a person can be anti-gay culture --- there must be such a thing, since the media recognizes it all the time --- without being anti-gay. I acknowledged that it might be confusing for you, considering your closeness to the subject. Then, I made a funny joke about the difference between "subtlety" and "subtitles." Now, I'm just bored.

  • June 25, 2011, 4:17 p.m. CST

    I am glad that you've identified a writing style for me, though.

    by Subtitles_Off

    But, I'm not flattered that it can be so easily imitated.

  • June 25, 2011, 4:29 p.m. CST

    I think you're ALL the same guy!

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    hey_choppah_turn_subtitles_off _andtellmehow_assymuffjizz tastes

  • June 25, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Yeah, that quotations thing is a real pain in the ass.

    by AssyMuffJizz

    I don't even know how to get around it, and I'm close to not caring. Every time this site's admins claim they're trying to improve it they fuck it up some more. But that's neither here nor there for our purposes. The kobe_ass or whatever his name is is probably one of the most boring talkbackers around. I've been lurking on this site for years (that's how I came to admire AsimovLives; he really is a singular voice), and whenever kobe shows up that's usually my cue that the TB is going downhill and I should stop reading. In fact, that's what I'm going to do here. It seems that monotonous boor never seems to shut up. He also seems to have a grudge against you. I do not. Rather, I am genuinely concerned about your rather deep fear of gay culture, or whatever it is. I understand you're trying to nuance your argument by separating gays themselves from the gay culture you see in the media, but you often go further than that. You can't let it go. You let it provoke you to the point of anger or disgust whenever it comes up, even tangentially. As I've said before, it reminds me a lot of how I used to react to flamboyant or colorful representations of homosexuality in the media or in my daily life. I resented it because I had a growing awareness of my own homosexuality, and I hated myself for it. The last thing I'd wish on anyone is the intensity of the self-hatred I had. It led me to some ugly places. Thankfully, though, with the help of friends, counselors and the loved ones who didn't abandon me, I was able to pull through and face myself for what I am. Now I'm in a peaceful, happy place. My life still has its share of difficulties, but whose doesn't? At least now I'm not carrying an ugly, hateful, self-destructive simulacrum of myself inside anymore. Subtitles_off, I don't know how old you are (and I don't need to know), but I get the sense that you're more mature than the bulk of this site's readership. You speak with the authority of experience. But it's not too late for you to let go and accept yourself. As long as you're living and conscious, it's not too late. I can't say that enough. Too many lives are ruined by that kind of self-loathing. Don't let that happen to you. Don't give in to your demons.

  • June 25, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Anyway, I hope that helps.

    by AssyMuffJizz

    See you around, subtitles_off.

  • June 25, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Most of this site's talkbackers seem immature

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Especially the ones that are 40+

  • June 25, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST

    GAWD, he cracks me up.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Deep fear. Great anger. Self-loathing. Inner demons. I'd type something about a drama queen, here, but I don't want to be misinterpreted. Assy, whether you think I'm an ignorant bigot or a sad, immature closet case, you don't know me, and you should really stop trying to press everyone else through the colander of your own life experience. We're all little snowflakes, man. Be well. Be whatever. Let me be the same, as I may see it. Save the philosophy for your own self-evaluations.

  • June 25, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    If he's a general...

    by superlaser

    any chance it's General Lane?

  • June 25, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST

    I agree

    by LouisCedar

    That it'd be interesting to make Clark and Lex old friends from Smallville, who have grown appart in some pretty massive ways. That way, Lex's hate of Superman weighs heavily on Clark (even more so) because this guy is someone who he considered a friend, and now he's watching him devolve into a monster. It would give him the conflict of I have to stop this guy/but he's my friend and part of me still wants to save him from himself. Smallville had a good idea to make Clark and Lex friends, but they executed it terribly, for the most part. As for the subject of the article: I see Christopher Meloni more as Perry White than I do Lex Luthor.

  • June 25, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    still no nigga

    by darth_ghidorah85

    what a brotha gotta do to eat in hollywood, man? make lex black, it will give a new spin, my whitey cousins. and for that matter, make superwhiteman, look exotic as the whitey say, like dean cain, who part jap when he played him. Hogan, We're coming for YOU, Nigga!

  • June 25, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Zack Snyder directs from a screenplay by David Goyer

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    That sentence alone makes you think in a disaster bigger than Green Lantern.

  • June 25, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Del Toro worked with Goyer and it went well

    by torontoxic

    Hopefully Snyder will be able to turn out a good movie too.

  • The website "Vulture" over at NYMag spoke with Meloni himself.

  • June 25, 2011, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Chris Meloni is a character named, General Sam Lane...

    by brocknroll

    The only other General I can think of in the Superman franchise is a character named, General Sam Lane. That character is a military general from the classic comics. Look up the wikipedia for General Sam Lane. I bet Chris is him.

  • June 25, 2011, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Using Sam Lane could be cool

    by superlaser

    Usually, Clark meets Lois before General Lane gets involved, but having Supes be an enemy of Gen. Lane before meeting Lois could add some new tension to a romantic dynamic that is pretty played out by now without changing the core of the characters.

  • June 25, 2011, 8:20 p.m. CST

    If he's General Lane...

    by LouisCedar

    then I'm guessing that Gen. Lane will appear in his younger days in the film. Why else cast an actor so close in age to Amy Adams to play her father, unless they're casting young for the same reason they casted young with the Kents--so that he can appear in the early scenes, when clark is still a kid. If this is indeed the case, then I'm guessing that the government is aware that a UFO crashed somewhere in Kansas, and a young Gen. Sam Lane is heading some sort of project to recover it. Project fails when the Kents get to the UFO first, and then years later, with the appearance of Superman, older Gen. Sam Lane makes a connection between one of his biggest failures, and this new alien hero who suddenly popped up out of nowhere. Or, they're reworking the character to be Lois's brother, and he's there to deal with Zod later on in the film.

  • June 25, 2011, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Saw Sucker Punch Director's cut

    by THEE Miracleman

    One of the worst movie's I've ever seen in my life. Snyder is a good director but bad writer, like Rob Zombie. If the Nolan's keep a tight grip on Supes it'll be fine though.

  • June 25, 2011, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Meloni is a fantastic actor. He just needs a nose job

    by chien_sale

  • June 25, 2011, 10:59 p.m. CST

    this whitey boy country havin' ass

    by darth_ghidorah85

    i bet this nigga talk about the blacks like they a disease or sumthin. what i bet maroni doesnt know is we arent all stereotypes like the median potrays us. cracka i had 2 cockerspaniels in the goddamn '80's. i fuckin g work on films, not in da threets chien sale can eat my black dick for all ah care, white lovin' pos, when they gonna be black superman? Maroni! We comin for YOU, nigga!

  • June 25, 2011, 11:22 p.m. CST

    He's way too young to be Lois's (

    by darthwaz1

  • June 25, 2011, 11:22 p.m. CST

    He's way too young to be Lois's (Amy Adams) father!

    by darthwaz1

  • June 26, 2011, 12:56 a.m. CST

    They don't know what General he's playing.

    by SID 8.0

    It could be anyone, there's more than one general in the US military. Besides this is an alien invasion flick too. All hands on deck people. Oh yeah that show The Deep End on ABC last year. It had the only 2 choices for LL ,Clancy Brown and Billy Zane.

  • Kneel before my dick will you!? I'm not going to bother listing all the amazing villains you COULD have used..instead we get that fucking asshole General Zod. You know what the beauty of seeing your comic book come to life on the big screen? The characters being brought to life..all the fantastic characters not the same two fucking retards again.. I nearly choked myself to death out of sheer boredom from that last piece of dog shit Superman movie but got a MAD raging hard stiff dick knowing Zak would be hemling a NEW action packed Superman..maybe he'd use Brainiac? Metallo!? DOOMSDAY! instead we get (Luthor pending) General taint sucker and his magic asshole...fucking stupid cockmunches who made this decision...fucking morons.

  • June 26, 2011, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Goyer NEEDS a great director to make his crap work...

    by TopHat

    ..."great director" = One who can elevate the emotional character driven stuff. Snyder = Not great director Goyer will be the downfall for this film more than anything else; Snyder can get away with a decent film IF the script is immaculate. With Goyer, he doesn't have it. Unless Nolan truly is involved with this film (meaning; he and his brother are involved with the script), its gonna be another SUPERMAN RETURNS: all homage and script structure, no feeling and magic.

  • June 26, 2011, 8:02 a.m. CST

    It's called makeup guys!!!!

    by brocknroll

    If Chris Meloni is too young to be Lois Lane's father, they can simply make him look like he's old in the make up department. That's what the makeup and stylists are for. That's what Richard Donner did to Marlon Brando for Jor-Rel. Marlon was too young to be Superman's Dad at the time, so they used make up and hair stylists to make him look older.

  • June 26, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Jor-El I mean...

    by brocknroll

    sorry for spelling mistake.

  • In combining superheroes and computer animation, I would love to see a PIXAR-like take on DC Comics/Warner Bros. JUSTICE LEAGUE. Adam West and Burt Ward could (via voice) return as BATMAN AND ROBIN. --Couldn't you imagine an INCREDIBLES-like flick with the JUSTICE LEAGUE??? Not a bad place for Warner Bros. to start, in bridging computer animation and superheroes, so long as the story and script delivers.

  • He was around 52 years old when they was shooting that movie? Dont see how he was too young (or even looked too young) playing a father to an infant. If anything too old..Even to a grown Supes he wasnt too young.

  • June 26, 2011, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Kevin Spacey was an Awesome Lex Luthor.

    by Drunken Busboy

    He was way better than Gene Hackman. It's too bad he was stuck in a bad script. Spacey should be given another shot at the role.

  • June 26, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Do agree that Spacey was a good Luthor...

    by Orbots Commander

    ...stuck working from a mediocre screenplay in a mediocre movie. I for one wouldn't mind Spacey returning in the part, even though that's not happening.

  • June 26, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    CHOPPAH finally got around to seeing TREE OF LIFE. Here's the review:


    I had high hopes for this movie, and going in I was prepared for a letdown because so few things live up to my expectations. However, I'm happy to report that THE TREE OF LIFE not only fulfilled my hopes, it blew them out of the water. Over time, this will emerge as a paradigm-shifting film, much like CITIZEN KANE, STAGECOACH and 2001 did. An entire new generation of filmmakers will be moved, inspired and forged by it. Its plot, at least superficially speaking, is fairly simple, but I still don't want to get too much into it because I feel you should go into it as unspoiled or perhaps moreso than I was. It's better to describe HOW the plot advances in this case, and it does so in a boldly stream-of-conscious style, even when Malick is showing you the formation of existence and life. The human story that constitutes much of the movie feels like home movies taken directly from memories and half-remembered dreams. Malick's camera follows the characters with a fluid grace, as if they were being stalked and observed by spirits. There is very little exposition to set it all up. Like life, this movie immerses you from the beginning all the way to the elegant, hypnotic end. I didn't want to leave, but halfway through the credits I badly had to take a piss. I wanted to sit and reflect and meditate upon Alexander Desplat's gentle, piano-guided score. The other 10 or so people in the theater had the same idea, only they weren't dumb enough to suck down a medium lemonade during the movie. I must see this again, but I'm afraid I'll have to wait for Blu Ray. Oh well, I'm sure it'll be even more stunning that way. Two notes before I wrap this up: 1. Even though this "argument" should have been settled long ago, let TREE OF LIFE be the movie that finally kills the notion that Brad Pitt is just a movie star and only a serviceable or mediocre actor. He was fantastic, and he is a great actor period. 2. I'm happy I went to see this alone because I didn't feel responsible for someone else's entertainment. For me, the pleasures of the experience were unlimited, but some folks just want to cut to the goddamn chase already. Plus, I really didn't want to talk about it afterward. I just wanted to continue to soak it in as I strolled along on this soft, breezy summer day, watching the clouds roll by and hearing the wind in the leaves. It'll be hard for another new release this year to impress me more than TREE OF LIFE did. Unless, of course, that Bristol-Levi sex tape finally sees the light of day. Five CHOPs out of five.

  • June 26, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Spacey better than Hackman???

    by Crumb

    Maybe I'm getting old but - oh my fricking god what's wrong with you.

  • June 26, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Re: MrJonz72

    by brocknroll

    If you do your research Christopher Meloni is not that young either. Meloni is 50 years old. So I think Meloni is fine as Gen. Sam Lane. Who cares about the age, it's just a movie. You guys take things too seriously.

  • June 26, 2011, 8:50 p.m. CST

    ummm ...

    by HongKongCavalier

    apparently America has run out of actors since all comic movies are getting Brits to play the leads.

  • June 27, 2011, 9:03 a.m. CST

    This has nothing to do with Meloni being cast, but...

    by Cletus Van Damme's time to dismiss Snyder and pay Matthew Vaughn whatever he wants to make this his next project.

  • June 27, 2011, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Kevin Spacey is the man.

    by GlamDaToeHammer

  • June 27, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    He was also way, way to young to have been in Viet-Nam.

    by v3d

    Unless they were drafting 10 year olds. Which they weren't because I'm his age. I'd remember that. Or would I?