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Hobbit Update! Evangeline Lilly and Barry Humphries join the greatest adventure!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with some Hobbit news this Father's Day weekend! Recently BBC's newest Sherlock, Benedict Cumberbatch, was announced as being the voice of Smaug (funny since Peter Jackson's Bilbo, Martin Freeman, is Cumberbatch's sidekick Watson in the Sherlock series) and Luke Evans was announced as Bard.
Now Peter Jackson has announced two more newcomers to Middle Earth: LOST's Evangeline Lilly and Dame Edna's Barry Humphries. Lilly will play a new character, a woodland elf named Tauriel, and Humphries will be the Goblin King, which, according to Jackson, will be executed in a similar way to how Andy Serkis portrayed Gollum.
Yikes! I can finally get back to some postings! We've finished our first block of shooting and moved straight into location scouting. More on that soon... But today, I'm thrilled to announce two new cast members who will be joining us for our second block of shooting.
Evangeline Lilly will be playing a new character—the Woodland Elf, Tauriel. Her name means 'daughter of Mirkwood' and, beyond that, we must leave you guessing! (No, there is no romantic connection to Legolas.) What is not a secret is how talented and compelling an actress Evangeline is; we are thrilled and excited she will be the one to bring our first true Sylvan Elf to life.
I'm also highly excited that Barry Humphries will be portraying the Goblin King, in much the way Andy Serkis created Gollum. Barry is perhaps best known for his business and social connections as the long-time manager of Dame Edna Everage. He has also been an ardent supporter of the rather misunderstood and unfairly maligned Australian politician, Sir Les Patterson. However, in his spare time, Barry is also a fine actor, and we're looking forward to seeing him invest the Goblin King with the delicate sensitivity and emotional depth this character deserves.
Evangeline and Barry, along with Welsh actor Luke Evans as Bard and Benedict Cumberbatch as Smaug, just about rounds out the major casting. I cannot wait to get stuck into these new scenes!
More soon, including a flurry of answers to your questions. Sorry for the delay!
Cheers,
Peter J
I quite like the idea of Lilly as an elf. She's got the face for it, no doubt. How about this newest news on the flick? What do you folks think?
Make sure to follow Peter Jackson's Facebook page for more updates!
-Quint
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I've never really been an "elf fetishist" before, but methinks I'm going to need a jizz rag!
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It's about time Barry Humphries added an extra string to his bow. He's been coasting on Dame Edna for so long now, and Les Patterson has been dormant for years. </p> </p>Might just be genius - Humphries can deliver a real guttural quality if he needs to... I think he also did the voice of the Great White from Finding Nemo a few years back, if my memory serves.
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June 19, 2011, 9:24 p.m. CST
What is not a secret is how talented and compelling an actress Evangeline is
by brad negrotto
It is also not a secret on how well connected she is to the production.
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Okay, maybe not "do" her, but I'd let her blow me as I closed my eyes thinking of Ollie Bloom.
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I hope they don't CG out her freckles. Otherwise, in the famous words of Kramer: 'Giddyup!!'
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June 19, 2011, 9:31 p.m. CST
I'd do Evangeline Lilly. And I say that as a married man.
by dead youngling
Happy Father's Day to me!
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Really happy to see her is such a big profile movie! Hope some of the other actors from Lost are able to make the leap to the big screen soon...
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The more nervous I am getting. Jackson didn't want to direct this thing to begin with and is working with another director's vision and pre-production, and now-- brand new characters are being added-a skinny pale british virgin is playing Smaug--Legolas is just showing up for no reason other than a not very good actor needs a job--the whole thing is very close to having "turd" written all over it. However, Evangeline is highly bangable so at least give her a big part if you are going full retard on the new character thing anyway.
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June 19, 2011, 9:43 p.m. CST
Cumberbatch actually playing the Hobitt big bad AND the LOTR big bad
by Bass Ackwards
As he's also taking on the role of The Necromancer. Though, blah on "new character." Don't they have enough to cover as it is?
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Spiders were too complicated, so we will distract all of you with Evangeline's titties and hope you don't miss the best sequence in the book.
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Think about it... Not a single ethnnic minority was prtrayed as a gd guy, they aere either black "orcs" or easterners. as a 1/32 black man, i find it highly offensice, despite the films being of high quaity. the white men live in a world of no blakz or native amerikans and ythe only eatrneeers are portayed as villains aligned with the black god, saurion. great films of cinema but obviously wacist. i had @ cosckerspaniels in the '80's, get on my lvl!
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Are you fucking kidding me? The worst ad on the internet is now on AICN.
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And by "excited" of course, I mean "horny". One night after watching an episode of Lost, I couldn't get to sleep and I started thinking about Kate and then...well...I twisted one off. I've been holding on to that secret for several years now and it feels good to just get it out in the open. Also, Harry, I know that you are embarrased by me, but please give me a call. Your brother, Larry
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Also, is she still dating Merry?
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Hope she kicks all kindsa ass in this! Her best moments in LOST were her self confident, cocksure bad ass moments...(Rewatch "Whatever The Case May Be" from Season 1 and see how fucking cool she played that bank robbery scene!). <p> Much better than her "Jack or Sawyer?" lame storylines from the latter parts of the series. <p> Huh..huh...huh...I said..."cocksure".
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If I had only seen him from Sherlock I might wonder what he's doing as Smaug, but after having seen him knock it out of the park as Frankenstein's monster in Boyle's theatrical adaptation I think the guy definitely has the ability to pull off Smaug. Sherlock is fantastic by the way, and if there's anything about this project that disappoints me its that Jackson, having taken the two stars of that show, has delayed the much anticipated second season that much longer.
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Has the role of URSA been cast yet? I vote for Evangeline. Also, Harry, please give me a call. Larry
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June 19, 2011, 10 p.m. CST
I would like to see Evangeline Lilly be Smaug's sexy slave girl.
by Larry Knowles
ala Carrie Fisher in Return of the Jedi. If they are going to shoehorn her into the story, then they should make it mermorable!
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Youtube it! She had several background roles as a sexy high school slut. Odd to see her play backstage to Kristen Kruenk
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But shoe-horning her in is lame. I guess that, as with making Arwin's part so much bigger in LOTR, it was necessary in order to establlish a shred of heterosexuality.
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June 19, 2011, 10:04 p.m. CST
I guess my only issue with this is that Evangeline Lilly should never work again.
by spacehog
I mean I hate to have to be the one to point it out.
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cannot wait.
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...on my stiff pole! Ya know what i mean, brother?
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Who played Merry! Which is what Santa says! Who was played by Artie Lang in Elf! Who is kinda/sorta reminiscent of John Belushi! Who was in Animal House with Kevin Bacon!!!!!
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June 19, 2011, 10:08 p.m. CST
New characters and LOTR characters will hopefully eradicate Hobbit plot entirely.
by Setsuled
I hope he remembers to include dewbacks and Boba Fett.
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That's not fair. It should be required that if you are a smoking hot hotty, that you should post nudey pictures of yourself online. They made me do it several years ago. See below... http://sexisnotbad.com/2011/05/utah-law-makes-acting-sexy-illegal/
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June 19, 2011, 10:16 p.m. CST
Evangeline makes my woodland elf emerge from the dark forest!
by Larry Knowles
I used "woodland elf" as a euphamism for my jimmy. And "dark forest" as a metaphor for my thick pubic hair.
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Me thinks Jackson has a type.
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Good casting there. She's got an ethereal beauty about her.
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Becuase the book was full of it. That was what made me keep reading it again and again as a child. All the sex.
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June 19, 2011, 10:20 p.m. CST
Now the real question: Why did AICN ignore the previous casting notices? The bigger ones?
by D.Vader
Did it slip past you guys and you realized it would just look foolish to be the last ones to post the story?
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You guys are complaining as if she's a major character in the entire movie. You think the Goblin King has a big part too?
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From the context of your post, I'm guessing that it means something like "extremely erotic" or "lusty". In the time it toom me to type this post, I could've easily looked it up online.
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A natural beauty like the Elves were supposed to possess.
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June 19, 2011, 10:25 p.m. CST
Shit, all these posts about Evangeline have woken my little hobbit.
by Larry Knowles
He won't go back into his Hobbit hole without a beating! I'm sorry fellas, I've been drinking tonight.
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I'm feeling a bit ethereal right now myself. (It means "horny" right?)
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There just using that woodland elf thing as a cover-up for the fact that she was truly hired to play Beorn - in all his sexy glory!
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You got it. I especially look forward to the scene when they meet a young Aragorn in Tattooine, where he has built himself an Arwen to play with. Then he saves the day by riding a bark motorcycle to the Lonely Mountain and destroys all five armies by tossing dwarves at them
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June 19, 2011, 10:45 p.m. CST
Last Tuesday I saw the Fellowship of the Ring extended cut in the theater!
by Yelsaeb
It was awesome! One of the best cinema going experiences of my life. It even had a cool little introduction by The PJ. My only beaf with it was that it was digitally projected. Tarantino would've had a fit. I'm seeing the Two Towers this Tuesday and Return of the King the next. I'm a little excited, to say the least. But on this news, I always thought Ron Perlman should do Smaug's voice, but I'm not the director, so all I can do now is complain. Which I won't because I trust The PJ to deliver the goods.
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Is it OK to masturbate when the dog is in bed with me? It's a king size bed and he is above the covers on the other side. I'm just too drunk right now to kick him out of the room. It doesn't make me a sicko if I just leave him on the bed while I take care of business does it? Also, Harry, please give me a call. I would really appreciate your brotherly advice on this one.
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Seen his name in previous talkbacks, and for good reason! But oh well.
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Oj's just man that a black man is president. that racis didn't update LOTR for modern audicne so us brthren could e represened now this the last time i post, cuase i gotta return the set of percy harvin and the olympins. y'al keep on living in ya racist "white fatnas" you prics. jonthan out!
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June 19, 2011, 10:53 p.m. CST
Evangeline Lilly would make a good Wonder Woman!
by HollywoodHellraiser
Glad to see her smoking bod back on the screen(small or big).
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Perfect casting.
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June 19, 2011, 10:58 p.m. CST
Update on my Evangeline Lilly masturbation situation...
by Larry Knowles
Remember how I told you above that the dog was in bed with me? Well, when I tried rubbing one out, it woke him up. And he started licking his crotch. Then I started laughing and I lost my Evangi-chub and now it'll have to wait till morning.
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June 19, 2011, 11 p.m. CST
What is not a secret is how talented and cumpelling an actress Evangeline is.
by schizoschizo
Fixed.
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Don't do that. The dog don't like that.
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Couldn't stand Kate on Lost. By season 4 I was praying every ep she'd die horribly. My excitement for Hobbit just dropped 25%. Is Shia LeBeoufee going to be Bard the Bowman? How about Lady Gag-gag as Dain! Quick, throw in some product placement! The casks of alcohol the dwarves leave the Wood Elves in are Miller lite. I love Hollywood 2011.
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June 19, 2011, 11:07 p.m. CST
greyspecter...you should try a lighter approach to your talkback
by Larry Knowles
Talkback is .best when it is funny. Not spiteful. So, in summary: funny talkback = good angry talkback = bad
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Some interesting conversations are going on tonight.
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i bet ya white assez told Oj not to cast a black man in the hobbit of gryffindo. i know harry your brother by six, but this aino gonna be goodOOooD! live long my wanna be whiteie loving brotha! Us "blackies" as yousay took over sports, then music, then politics. all that left is hoolywon, and when i direct my next motion picture, brotha, it's happenayne Oj ill learn in this white fantasy trilogy preknel hes doing now with llily white evangelions
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and that was no dog, brother
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Or has this talkback been more bizarre than usual?
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Someone went and made an account called barryknowles? The sheer amount of douchbaggery on display here is just too much for me.
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I'm happy she is getting work, buuuut...
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Too bad Merry isn't in this. Evangeline Lilly and Dominic Monoghan have been an item for quite a while...
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June 19, 2011, 11:32 p.m. CST
the inclusion of Humphries suggests they might actually get this RIGHT...it IS NOT LOTR, its the HOBBIT, WHIMSICAL OK?
by quantize
it was always designed as a kids book
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Apparently they broke up about three years ago. Guess I should watch TMZ more often....
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You are not alone. My erm... Ent branch shall we say, also wholeheartedly approves of this casting decision. In fact it insisted on typing this post itself. Industrious lil' rascal.
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June 19, 2011, 11:42 p.m. CST
I'm fine with the understanding that The Hobbit & the LOTR are different in tone and style...
by Jaka
....but I still not really feeling the creation of new characters. Characters Tolkien previously established showing up in unexpected places is one thing. But all new characters, well, this is the first news that has made me really nervous about this production.
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This can only be a good thing.
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I could swear I remember her saying that after LOST she was done with acting, but I'm glad she's not. I can't say if she's a great actress or anything as I've only ever seen her as one character, but I really liked her on LOST, plus she's hot and that doesn't hurt.
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God help us, god help us all.....!
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June 20, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST
Evangeline Lilly said that she was done with TV so did Matthew Fox, not acting all together
by room23storeblogspotcom
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You're welcome, nerds. No spank-yous are necessary: http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/20798 http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/20728 http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/13693 http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/15822 http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/10867
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June 20, 2011, 12:46 a.m. CST
WHY DAME EDNA IS THE GOBLIN KING:Barry Humphries also played a sleazy politician, which is very goblin-y.
by Citizin_insane
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June 20, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST
Youtube "les patterson". You'll understand why Humphries is an inspired choice
by Citizin_insane
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Casting Evangeline Lilly as an elf is a FAAAAR cry from Shia Labeouf or Lady Gaga or having beer product placement. You really have no sense of proportion here. This isn't "Hollywood 101". If that were the case, then he would've cast Megan Fox as an elf nudist sex addict or Bradley Cooper as a way awesome archer buddy of Bard who almost gets him drunk the night before Smaug's attack! It's waaacky! But see, he didn't do that. So... you know... take a pill.
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June 20, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST
SO NOW THEY'RE MAKING CHARACTERS UP? MARK MY WORDS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A DISASTER!!! FACT!!!.....
by CreepyThinMan
The Hobbit is a simple story that is being bloated purely for the sake of squeezing as many movies out of it as possible. It doesn't need to be two movies and every other day we hear about how Jackson is shoving as much shit from Rings into it as possible. Also, why is it that geeks and nerds slobber over every flavor of the month piece of ass like Evangeline Lilly? Like Gillian Anderson, she gets famous for a TV show, does nothing else and fades into obscurity while legions of horny cretins wank over them. Yeah, I'd pork both of them but I wouldn't call either that good at acting.
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June 20, 2011, 1:13 a.m. CST
Prediction: A 12 minute scene starring Tauriel on horseback using crazy powers.
by Doctor_Strangepork
I guess Liv Tyler is too old to shoehorn into the plot so that dumb people who can only relate to their own gender will go to see this movie.
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June 20, 2011, 1:15 a.m. CST
Whenever Tauriel's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Tauriel"?
by Doctor_Strangepork
Where's Poochie?
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she is one of the sexiest women alive...plus she's a decent actress and could be a great one but we've only really seen her in one role...gotta give her a chance to not be kate...I think she can do it...not hopeful for Real Steel but I think if she nails The Hobbit she can dominate a career
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Kate the Badass and Kate the Mom. The former was great, didn't really buy the latter. The bad writing of her character contributed to Kate the Mom's unbelievability too, though. So I guess she's about 50/50 to me. As far additions to the story... sure, you can say that they're tacking on a lot of extra plot, but the additions are mostly things talked about in The Silmarillion which connected The Hobbit to LOTR. It's not as if he's lifting material directly from LOTR. Why some people object to MORE Tolkien is really baffling to me. We'll see about this altogether new elf though. That's the only news so far that makes me wary.
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Wow, with so little traffic, I can't believe they even bother to post anything.
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June 20, 2011, 2:39 a.m. CST
Yes...and like the 99,999th visitors before you...You're wrong.
by Cheif Brody
She's been in feature films before, too...most recently in 'The Hurt Locker"...and also appears in this summer's "Real Steel" with Hugh Jackman. <p> Edjumakate yerself....THEN post gibberish. <p> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1431940/
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A hobbits tale: Awwww Yeaaa
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...they don't get rid of her freckles, I'm all for it. It'll be great to see Evangeline in a big budget flick and have an actual role. Here's hoping the character is fleshed out and not just eye candy, cause not only is she beautiful, she's proven that she can do angst.
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June 20, 2011, 4:01 a.m. CST
Jackson's casting decisions are almost as shite as Coppola's. Barry Humphries certaing is THE GOBBLE-ING KING!
by Jeff Myers
Yes it was a gay-bashing epithet. Wasn't the end of the TWO TOWERS - the bedroom scene with Frodo and friends - GAY enough?
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Just to stir things up - but you know what? I can't be arsed any more...
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Evangeline Lilly is a smoking hot piece of ass, we can all agree with that and happily flick one off with her as an elf in our minds. But acting wise, not sure she's right for a Tolkien epic. Happy to be proved wrong. I stopped watching lost 2 or 3 episodes into series 3, when it became very clear that the writers were just making it up as they went. Matthew Fox apparently was told the ending from the beginning as he needed to know. That was a acting job and a half, looking at the other cast members every day knowing just what a clusterfuck of an ending they were shitting out. Barry Humphies is just inspired, he'll be awesome voicing the Goblin King. I'm just desperate to see some footage, seeing as this film has buggered up the filming schedule of two of my favourite TV shows, Sherlock and Being Human. With probable knock on effect to Doctor Who with the Moffet connection.
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Siliconed elves, drag goblins, new bizarre characters.... Is this film really based in Tolkien's work? Looks bad
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Heavily re-imagined by Peter "I can do better" Jackson.
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June 20, 2011, 5:08 a.m. CST
Evangeline Lilly will be playing a new character—the Woodland Elf, Tauriel.
by Son of the Suns
WTF? My english is terrible and my storytelling abilities more so. However, I still think I could do a more faithful (and compact) adaptation than this will end up.
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June 20, 2011, 5:09 a.m. CST
It'll be great to see Evangeline in a big budget flick and have an actual role.
by Son of the Suns
This isn't a role. It's a bit-part. God help me, please don't let this be anything more.
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June 20, 2011, 5:15 a.m. CST
Was she the wife in The Hurt Locker... god, she was annoying
by Knuckleface
Hmmm.... I had no idea who this Lilly chick was, so I googled her. A 'Lost' actress. Ok... I never watched that stupid show, so I can't judge... Hmmm.... Canadian..? Looks kind of like Liv Tyler... Ok. Fine... Oh, christ... she was in The Hurt Locker??? Was she the wife? I hated that character and thought the actress was terrible...
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I always imagined Bard being more rugged than this Luke Evans appears to be, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I suspect Bard is one of those characters that will be heavily embellished for the film. He's a fairly small part of the novel. As for the Goblin King, again, sounds like there will be some heavy embellishment here. If they are giving him the 'Gollum treatment'. The Goblin King is such a tiny role in the book, and doesn't he basically sit on the throne the whole time.
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The father of Sauron, the daughter of Sauron, who will fall in love with Bardo, and Ajita Wilson as the Queen of Middle Earth....
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There is only going to be one movie based on the Hobbit. The second is said to bridge the gap between The Hobbit and LOTR. Go put all that neagtive energy into something useful. Like a dildobattery.
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June 20, 2011, 7:40 a.m. CST
So they needed a female character to sell it to girls aged 8 - 13
by Ricardo
Peter Jackson used to be a film genius. Then he moved out of New Zeland, and Hollywood sucked his brains out.
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She was more suited to hawking video game controllers on tech tv which is how she got her start. Snotty bitch.
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I was afraid her movie career was going to be in danger after her first big post-LOST role being in that ridicidulously stupid-looking REAL STEEL.
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she's not only hot but she's also a fabulous actress...she might not have always been given the greatest material to work with on LOST but there's no doubt that she can act...good to see Peter Jackson give her the recognition she deserves
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June 20, 2011, 9:04 a.m. CST
Barry Humphries is a very funny man indeedy. Brilliant news.
by Mr Nicholas
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Man her role in Lost was annoying. Tell Jack NO. Follow Jack. Cry about daddy crap. Follow Jack. Tell Jack No. Follow Jack. 15 minutes staring at a campfire about daddy issues. over and over. And I like her, hopefully she will make an amazing elf.
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With LOTR he had almost a blank slate... yes there were versions before but none were remembered the same way a lot of people remember the original version of the Hobbit. A lot of people are going to be ripping him a new one if he goes way off base. That being said can't wait for it to come out so I can give him some of my money. Sigh.
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Haha I called this months ago! Jackson would shoehorn in his own Elf slut because he knows boners equal box office. I bethcha she shows her bald elven cooch to Bard and they fall in love or dipshit like that.
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Beorn was a major character in the Battle of Five Armies. I know that it would take way too long to literally interpret the scene where Gandalf, Bilbo and 13 dwarves are introduced to the surly man. But they still need him. Right?
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The fact he straying from the book, makes me think the Hobbit is going to be crap. Anyone wanting to bet E.Lilly's character is going to be another warrior princess?
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June 20, 2011, 10:14 a.m. CST
Evangeline Lilly appears as an extra in Freddy vs. Jason
by Nasty In The Pasty
Look it up on YouTube. She's a girl wearing a green sweater during a scene in a high school hallway.
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- Waaaah, we want a Warrior Princess! Waaaah, we want more elves! Almost Fat Git Jackson then says: Why yes dear and and you, that other bitch. Shite it up allready PJ, like you did to the other films. @omis: you're so right
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Tolkien is decomposing all over again. I can hear him vomiting from here.
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Nice work, Evangeline. ;) btw, did she have a baby? I read that on some French site but nowhere else. Kinda forgot about it.
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June 20, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST
I have a feeling the Woodland Elf, Tauriel is gonna be the "Middle Elarth" version of Jar Jar Binks.
by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage
See this is how "Episode 1" started...a bunch of hype & dream casting...then we got a turd of a film that was the forerunner of a series of films that make the "Hey Vern its Ernest" films look like Shakespeare...and much like a creepy uncle, the hobbit move is going to lead us into a dark room with promises of ice cream & video games and then once we are under its drunken spell we are gonna end up naked with our asses spread wide open, waiting for the inevitable realization that this movie bent us over and rammed its big manly cock right into our childhoods collective young asses. And after that all thats gonna be left is the shame and anal stitching that comes with watching a once great series of films go down the toilet like the leftover chunks of old semen that will remain with us long after this film and Peter Jackson and Harry's sellout review are done with its forced childhood rape of our tender virginal anus
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Re: Lord of the rings is racist "white fantasy" by darth_ghidorah85 Its no more, or less, racist as anything else penned in the past that included, or intentionally excluded, people different from the author and their community. Having said that, yeah, in the 21st century it would be good to see the characters represented as something other than relentlessly white and British. They've certainly played with the source material enough in other ways. There's been an article or two written about Tolkein's views on race. He was raised in Africa, and the colonial view of African natives is something we can be ashamed of today. Not so in when Tolkein was writing. He probably considered himself to be enlightened, and for his day he might have been. Kind of upset with Shakespeare myself for his anti-semitism.
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These things were written an age ago (let alone the bard's works) you lentil eating,sandal wearing waste of lefty skin. People like you you get up my nose (twice as much if you turn out to be a yank.) We should not be ashamed of our pasts they are just that, move on and revel in our modern enlightened ages. An age where people like you can eat quorn and live a happy, fulfilling life in your smoke free, same sex marriage with your hybrid cars. People like you should be harvested for your organs... End of line.
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It's the only way to de-racistify The Hobbit.
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Whiny ass bitches. You'll be there, opening night. Don't pretend you won't be.
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June 20, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST
It's lost on me why Evangeline Lilly hasn't been in more movies.
by SnootyBoots
Why, just look at her.
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America! Fuck Yeah! And you guys are stupid for driving on the wrong side of the street. Oh, and generally being pretentious prigs. Besides, we gave the world Star Trek. So...you're welcome.
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For make drunken posts last night. I also apologized to my dog this morning.
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Idk what the actor's appearance and age have anything to do with his voice.... Cumberbatch is a fine choice!
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She has one action scene, and all that involved was riding a horse. Hardly a warrior princess. We have no idea what kind of character this new elf will be, so stop bitching until you actually have information.
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...but I resent that "opening night" comment. I won't be there on opening night, or any other night for this film. I would love to see Tolkien's novel adapted faithfully, but it's a damned safe bet that ain't gonna happen.
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Best AICN talkback handle....ever. <p> Saw a Real Steel trailer before Super 8 on IMAX. Pretty sure Evie will blend right into the background in that movie (as she did in Hurt Locker)....she should come out unscathed...that is Jackman's movie to live and die on...But...In fairness...it's a total KID flick. Anyone over 15 seeing this should have their head examined. <p> Not saying kiddy movies deserve any slack...but Real Steel may as well be Spy Kids 4 (or 8...or whatever Rodriguez is up to now) in tone. It's fucking Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots come to life with a ROCKY underdog story loosely hung on it with $40 million in CGI splashing all over the screen. Hugh's job is to sell it, which, from the trailer, seems like he's all in...but Evangeline's role will have her standing on the sidelines going "Wow" for much of that movie. A pretty thankless role. Having any 'feeling' for the underdog robot will make or break it....no matter how good the actual acting is. <p> Anyone judging Evangeline's acting based on LOST...I suggest you watch any 'Kate centric' episode from seasons one or two. After season two...Kate's character gets religated to being a pawn....either in a love triangle that makes you hate the character...or by getting captured every other episode and in need of rescue...which ALSO makes you hate the character. THEN...they end up making Kate a baby stealer...which doesn't help matters either! <p> Many confuse the two (character/actress) when they say "Evangeline Lilly can't act". Not true, IMO. The LOST writers just had nothing compelling for her character to do after Season 2. Seriously...Go Hulu "Whatever The Case May Be" from Season 1. If that performance doesn't turn yer head...then you might have a point.
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She spends most of the episode swimming in her bra and panties. So...there ya go.
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......and Billy Boyd cast as his codpiece as it's the only work he can get these days...
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June 20, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST
michaelh- I had to re-read your post twice just to check out all of the stupidity in it....
by sam jacksons wig
...."kind of upset with Shakespeare?????" That goes down as perhaps one of the most idiotic and braindead comments I have ever had the misfortune to read. If I were you, I would put down the bong and the happy beads. Time to sober up.
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June 20, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST
No people this is not going to be the Hobbit you read to your children...
by Wayne Tyree
...or read as children. Good heavens folks...it's Jackson, what the hell were you expecting, a faithful re-telling of the book? No, he's adapting Tolkien's book to fit his previously released adaptation of LotR...y'know, the movie...NOT the book. Not too crazy with Cummerbund doing both voices for Sau, erm, the Necromancer and Smaug. Just like with Treebeard and Gimli, an actor with such a distinctive voice just can't be hidden behind a wall of electronic wizardry (crappy pun intended). Bah! No Stephen Moyer as Bard then. Hope this guy has that brooding intensity as well. Big deal, Jackson and the other writers created an elf chick character. Bet she's in about as much as Grima Wormtongue was in LotR. If Galadriel was an extraordinary athlete (and took up a sword in The Kinslaying) in Old Valinor, then it's not too large a stretch to have a female Sylvan elf take up arms (hint: she's a bodyguard or something to Thranduil). Yes, a typical AICN Hobbit Talkback: NOONE is happy and what would a TB be without the utterly goofball racism charge...yet again! You never disappoint AICN talk backers...ever onward to the ill-informed past! Question: Who were the most evil and corrupt men in Middle-earth? Yes, those lily-white Black Numenoreans! Wait, they're called...B-B-B-black, you say? I'll type slowly this time...they were WHITEYS! Yes, it's true. I suspect the real "racist" angle from some of you is that there were no African featured characters, yes? Well, maybe Jackson did miss a good chance to show some "swarthy skinned" men in Bree. After all, many were descendants of the Easterlings who invaded some centuries before. So, in keeping with Tolkien's inclusion of swarthy folk in Bree, Butterman could've had dark skin. Shall we talk about one of the other main bad guys...Saruman THE WHITE? Wouldn't the Fellowship itself constitute a perfect example of races working together for a common cause? How would that be racist?
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Do you mean Peter Noone, the lead singer for Herman's Hermits?
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i knew a whitey tryngn gti justify his perfect "white fantasy" would rear it's ugly pale-ass head. motherfucka all i ask is Oj make Radaghast black to appeal to all people, if jackson;s gonna put lilly white evangeline as a brad new character! Oj is racist! as you too, you rebel-flagging, slave-wishing, war-mongering, right-wwinging, bible-thumping son ofa gun!
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...eventually.
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I mean, really, everything of importance was there, all the themes of the book were touched upon...most changes were minor and none of them changed the outcome of the story. People just want everything EXACTLY like the book and it's ridiculously annoying
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June 20, 2011, 5:24 p.m. CST
I wish you guys posted pics in all your stories
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
now I gotta open a new tab, go to google images, and search for their names. oh the drudgery Ohhhhhhhh Hot damn! Evangeline is smokin hot.
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and turning it into 2 big movies, (for financial reasons mostly i presume) and there's people complaining that it's not going to be true to the book? You're complaining about getting 2 more Peter Jackson Tolkien movies? Are you kidding me? I think it will be great.
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You remind me of the babe (What babe?) Babe with the power (What power?) Power of Voodoo (Who do?) You do (Do what?) Remind me of the babe
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June 20, 2011, 6:51 p.m. CST
Who the fuck is Tauriel? I smell a fucking "Love Interest"
by conspiracy
I don't give a fuck what Jackson is saying in the press..this smacks of shoving that other braod into the last series of films for no other reason than to give girls some "romanctic interlude" to daydream and masturbate too. Unless this bitch is doing full frontal and doing a "Dragon Show" with Smaug...whats the fucking point?
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June 20, 2011, 6:51 p.m. CST
Well, at least one fan boy flick got Evangeline Lilly! Superman missed its chance to get her as Lois!
by planetran_fan
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this is pretty cool news...you buried the lead!
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June 20, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST
I slept with Dominic Monaghan, and he didn't get me a Hobbit gig!
by Wookie_Weed
Son of a bitch is gonna get dinner plates thrown at him when he gets home tonight.
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June 20, 2011, 10:07 p.m. CST
Can't wait for Neil Gaiman to bitch like a whiny little girl about the Hobbit
by Wookie_Weed
Like he did about the LOTRO films, considering his buddies Stephen Fry, Martin, Cumberbatch, etc are in the Hobbit now.
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David fucking Bowie.
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Isn't copyright in the US valid until 70 years after the author's death, regardless of date of publication? That would keep The Hobbit and LotR out off the Public Domain until 2043, which is still plenty of time by my reckoning. We would then have access to all of Tolkien's works in the Public Domain. Of course then there are all the derivative works and interpretations of those books (movies, musicals, etc.), most being considered as Work for Hire, would see their copyright expire 120 years after creation (or 95 years after publication, whichever is sooner), so we have until 2095 for the actual FotR movie to be in the Public Domain. Of course, the EE of the movies may be considered yet another creation, whose expiry date will be adjusted accordingly. Now there is an additional twist, which is moral right, which applies to most of Europe (but not Britain), by which the author has a perpetual moral right to his creation. This moral right cannot be waived in some countries like France, even by the author himself or his descendants! This specifies that the author or heir to that right can remove the work from the market altogether, i.e. make it unavailable; and also ensure that the work is not changed or mutilated in any way (which could be quite of a mess if exercised, although court cases up to now tend to argue that this right may be limited). Anyway copyright law is such a mess that it's better not to count the years - there will always be some obscure clause somewhere that will be used in the interest of corporations. But shall see in due time!
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Streamlining a story so that it will fit in a two hour movie is one thing, writing a completely new story is another. Like I said before, the parts the PJ & company added were the worst parts of the series. Fellowship was them streamlining the movie, and it was good. The Two Towers is where they started adding stuff and changing things, but it wasn't so much that it brought down the entire movie. By the time return of the king came out, PJ thought they could actually write better than Tolkien, and that movie looked like a CGI mess. It's not even watchable anymore. And I have sinking feeling that the Hobbit is continuing that trend. I don't think Evangline Lilly took a non-speaking role, standing in the background. That means PJ is adding shit to the movie, not streamlining it. And since he is stretching it out to two parts, I am assuming he's going to be adding A LOT of shit. Which means we'll being seeing TAURIEL using her cloak to hang glide off trees while sniping orcs with her bow, and Gimli's dad making more dwarf tossing jokes. Sorry but I have a bad feeling about these movies. I want to watch Tolkien's story, not Peter Jackson's.
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It's something Harry mis-used so much it almost became canon. But now that you mention him, "Hey, hey we're the Monkey's. People say we monkey around..."
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And here I though PJ (y'know...Peter Jackson) was directing again only to find out it's actually OJ Simpson. Just curious, was your black pride offended when the world saw OJ driving a WHITE SUV on the L.A. Freeway? Dang, guess that's just me "whitey tryngn gti " again. Man, if I could only figure out what that is I might stop doing it. I know, I'll ask my Klan mentor when I deliver a new batch of Rebel flags to his upcoming monster truck bog/rally. Yee-haw, the Southrons will rise again!
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...Jackson is doing the same thing with The Hobbit that Tolkien did in his very last re-write of the book. The only problem is that someone pointed out to him that it was no longer The Hobbit but a lesser prequel to the greater work. He dropped all notions of another edition shortly thereafter. I think having Arwen at Helm's Deep (it was here Aragorn was to receive Anduril) and the subsequent editing out of same is where Jackson started running into trouble. I'm still amazed how Jackson just threw the significance of Anduril out the window until RotK. Still, that was one of many minor quibbles in an otherwise stellar effort. How do you think singing eleves and talking ponys will go over with todays audience? Like Jackson said of his earlier effort..."I may not be making The Lord of the Rings but I am making one hell of a movie." I agree, PJ, and I'm betting we'll be seeing more of the same. If it's that bothersome to purist, why even express any interest in it?
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But hasn't a hobbit already been inside Evangelline Lilly? ... giggity giggity!
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But it seems Jackson is just going to turn this into a bloated 5-6 hour adaptation of a book shorter than Return of the King. I get most of the changes he made to the LotR story were to have a better story structure and pacing(some exceptions in Return of the King; see Denethor's madness). But everything I hear about The Hobbit so far just seems like change for the sake of change.
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I had interest in the movie when Del Toro was the director because I think he could have made it special. And now from everything I am reading about the Hobbit, it going to be everything I didn't like about LOTR and more. It sounds like Peter Jackson is determined to make the Hobbit movies be his Star Wars prequels. And for the record, I am not a purist. I don't need the movie to be 100% faithful to the book. I understand that things need to be cut or changed so that it will work on screen. But it sounds like he's just adding scenes to movie so he can justify splitting to story up into movies. He not streamlining the story so it will flow better on screen. He's bloating it. And that's what I have issues with.
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Get ready for an elf that fucks up everything, and then cries about it.
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Omis above was completely correct- the worst things about the LOTR movies were the "additions" Jackson, Boyens, et al. decided to add in. But...who cares? As long as Game of Thrones continues to kick ass, the grown-ups will have a fantasy series to get lost in....
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Yep, I definitely see your point, it will be a big mess. I thought the +95 years from publication is for a work for hire (otherwise works for hire would have a never-ending copyright, because they belong to a company that potentially cannot die, which didn't seem right) so I didn't think it applies to the Hobbit - but no, you are absolutely right! The first edition of The Hobbit will be available quite soon! But yes, absolutely, it is going to be a shock when those things go public. I mean once those stuff go public in a few select countries (Canada is a good example!), then AD&D will at last be able to use the word Hobbit instead of Halfling, Burger King will be able to have Frodo or Sauron as its mascot, people will be able to write sequels and prequels with Frodo getting it on with Sam while Rosie is watching, and all sorts of BS. 10 years back, some guy basically wrote sequels to Les Miserables by Victor Hugo, and the grand-grand-(...)-grand son of the author tried to have it banned in France using moral copyright (arguing it would mutilate the original), but he was repeatedly defeated in court. So yeah the door will be wide open, filmmakers will do what they want. One thing that will be forbidden in countries with a sense of moral copyright, will be the actual rewriting of the story - because that would unambiguously mutilate it. Fortunately the Silmarillion is still safe for quite a while...
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you know my brother Pj didn't kill that white bitch. everytime i see one of my brothers talking about hooking up with a white girl, i tell them ain't nothing but trouble coming for them, and Oj, who i'm sure waswarned, had it coming, that dumb brotha. still funny as shot. and itb wanst arwen who travelled to hell's deep, it was haldir, don't test me on my rings knowledge, white brotha. i may think it's racist, but i still enjoy it. also, you go back to that klan master, waving your flag proud, speaking of the sgtreat south riding again! let me tell ya whit brother, obama has brought on change and i bet your honkey, tea baggin party member is waiting to riot with that dumb vityh, sarah pal! suck on that, tintsin the white!
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"Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter..." The other lyric wouldn't apply to Peter Noone that I know of. Oh, and the responsible party for the endless Harry ragging as a result of misusing "no one"? That would be me. I've used the Peter Noone jab about a hundred times, but this is the first response I got!
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Guess I was picturing Peter Tork and wasn't clicking on the last name. Quite right, quite right and it just makes me want to take the"...ferry, 'cross the Mersey." Just don't accuse me of bein' an 'en-er-ee, Willy or a Sam!
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...I think folks just did it to momic Harry. Momic: to mock by mimicking. It were all jist harmless fun, thas all.
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I'm going to pretend you actually give a dam and explain Xenarwen at Helm's Deep. Yes, it was actually filmed but the fans simply revolted at hearing of an armed Arwen fighting by her man at Helm's Deep. It was there where she was to deliver Anduril to Aragorn as well. In that respect (oh calm down everyone!), I rather wish PJ had stuck with it as removing those scenes added to later complications. Mainly, the much-too-late and anticlimactic Elrond delivery of Anduril at Dunharrow. Let's just say Arwen became Haldir at Helm's Deep. But, I'm not sure if PJ originally intended for him to be there or his character came about as a result of writing Arwen out of HD. Capice? Now let me go play dingl-dangle-dingle with my spankin' new Sarah Palin blow-up dolly!
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It has to be in Two Towers where Elrond is persuading Arwen to leave Middle-earth. One of the most beautiful and haunting scenes of the movie and I, for one, am gratefull the writers came up with it. Not only is the scene done brilliantly but we get one of those "glimpse of a hidden vista" Tolkien always talked about. Look on the wall behind Arwen and Elrond and you'll see a beautifully rendered tapestry of the Two Trees of Valinor hanging there. I wouldn't want to have missed the falling staircase scene from Fellowship either. Least favorite...the scene (Two Towers again) where Frodo offers up the Ring to a Nazgul. Really PJ? REALLY?
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