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Nordling Says GREEN LANTERN Is Mostly Lifeless!
Nordling here.
First, what works: Ryan Reynolds really does give GREEN LANTERN his all. He's the best thing about the film. It's an earnest performance and you can see Reynolds kicking, punching, and dragging the movie with him. It's unfortunate that the movie is dead weight on his back - the script is a mess, the direction is uninspired, and the pace is flat-out boring.
It shouldn't have been this way. There are moments when GREEN LANTERN comes to life - the first 20 minutes and the last 20 minutes the film rouses itself enough for the audience to begin to care what they are seeing - but there's so much fat, so much wasted time that it doesn't earn those moments at the end that want to be triumphant. The film works best when it embraces the silly nature of the comic book, and goes off on the flights-of-fancy that the book does. For such an epically scaled film (or at least it wants to be) it almost seems reluctant to leave Earth. It would rather stay here than live up to the potential of the premise - a galactic force for good fights evil throughout the universe, and for the first time a Green Lantern ring has chosen a human to join the Corps. That human, Hal Jordan (Reynolds) a test pilot who crashed his multimillion dollar plane to make a point, has his own baggage and issues, and turns down the Corps. In the meantime, Parallax, a giant all-consuming entity, will have its revenge on Oa, the world of the Lanterns, and the Guardians that banished him. Here on Earth, Hector Hammond (Peter Sarsgaard) is exposed to the yellow energy of Parallax and becomes its minion, with hyperintelligence and telepathy. If Earth is to be saved, Hal must take up his role as Earth's protector and become the Green Lantern he was meant to be.
The reluctant superhero has pretty much been the standard since these movies really started coming into prominence, but here it's just wasting time. Much of the film has Jordan refusing to take up the Green Lantern mantle, that is of course until the plot demands he do so. It's boring and it doesn't make for interesting cinema. Reynolds really tries to inject some fun and energy into it, but it's the script that bogs him down. You get the feeling Reynolds is with the audience, saying, "I know, I want to fly in space and show you amazing things too, but just bear with this part of the film because we have to make some kind of thematic point." With the powers that the Green Lantern has - he can turn his thoughts into matter - and considering Jordan's life before then - Hal lost his father in a devastating plane explosion, and he is trying to live up to his legacy - you would think it would take all of 15 seconds for Hal to whoop it up, put the ring on, and start saving the universe. But we're treated to long stretches of time where Hal is unwilling to take the ring, and it just weighs the film down like an anchor.
Sarsgaard, as Hector Hammond, isn't particularly good - it's a weird, almost Lynchian performance and it belongs in a completely different movie. As his head deforms and grows, Sarsgaard screams and Brundleflys through the proceedings. Blake Lively does really nothing here except look pretty and get into danger. Mark Strong as Sinestro, the head of the Corps, is actually really good, but since it's Mark Strong playing him, you pretty much know where that story arc is going. I like Strong as an actor, and I liked the passion of Sinestro's character. But considering it's Strong playing him the post-credits scene with the character shouldn't come as any kind of surprise.
The special effects, heavy on the green screen and CGI, didn't bother me that much, and in fact the sequence on Oa, where Hal learns his role, is among the best that the film has to offer. I really liked how striking the visuals were, and how willing the filmmakers were to embrace the weirdness of the premise. But Oa is all too brief, and soon we're back on Earth again, moping around and waiting for things to happen. It's almost as if the film has no sense of itself.
I didn't get much sense of 3D here - this is a film that the dimming of the screen by the glasses is a detriment. Much of the imagery of the film is done no favors by having the brightness cut by half. There are moments where the 3D looks interesting, especially on Oa, but I don't think it's worth the extra money. See it in 2D instead if you have to, and the brighter images will work better, in my opinion.
GREEN LANTERN needed to embrace the wacky, weird, silly nature of the comic, and not waste so much time getting to the point. You could feel the audience wanting the film to take them to those places, but it refuses, insisting on going the cliched superhero origin route. Martin Campbell never really lets the film go where it and the audience want it to go, except in brief moments. The film strains to be let free to soar, but the terrible script, the direction, and the editing keep this bird grounded. It's a real wasted opportunity. If a sequel does happen, Warner Brothers needs to find a way to let the movie go as big as it wants, and as silly as it wants. Otherwise, it's just another bland, lifeless superhero film.
Nordling, out.
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Go make Deadpool!
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After seeing the lame first footage, I knew the movie was screwed. Eveyone got way too excited over the space footage. Notice how they stopped showing most of the Earth stuff? But people were drinking the kool aid. It's a shame. I would've liked to have seen a good Green Lantern movie. That's what happens when you get a crappy director who didn't care about the character. Warners is putting a lot of money into this. So hopefully they find a director who is a fan and get someone to make a good sequel.
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June 16, 2011, 6:40 a.m. CST
I agree, poor Reynolds. He was one guy that has been wanting to act as a hero for a long time...
by Citizin_insane
Lets reboot his Deadpool Character!
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Wow, I won't be wasting my time with it then. I'll just go see X-Men First Class again.
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could he be wrong? COULD HE? let's ask the free ring smothered between his fingers.
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... did Harry wear his GL promo ring pwezzie to the screening?
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It'll be that totally different superhero movie we want.
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Xmen FC is still at 87%, even Thor is at 77%. I think we will wait a week or two and see Transformers. At least we are going into that one expecting to see shitty acting and bad CG.
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to ride your Rascal into a theater, box of toys in your lap, slushie in your cupholder, asian wife/nursemaid at your side, free green lantern ring greased onto your middle finger...in the company of friends and fellow reviewers who still have some respect for your cinematic opinions....the lights go low as your smile widens.... then you are assaulted by something like green lantern...after you hyped and praised the morsels you were shown. you have to look those people in the face. you have to rascal back up the aisle and try to be an apologist for the masters that now pay you off. You have to sadly get back into your van and realize you've wasted another 2 hours of your life doing what you 'love'. Watching shit like green lantern and trying to sift and find a few good solid morsels of corn or peanut in an otherwise diarrhea movie.
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but god damnit, he's a peacock... you gotta let him fly!
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June 16, 2011, 6:59 a.m. CST
I HAVE COMPILED A LIST OF MARVEL DC MOVIES AND HAVE RATED THEM GOOD/GREAT/MEH/BAD. I'VE EXCLUDED ONES I HAVNT SEEN.
by Citizin_insane
FOR YOUR TROLLING PLEASURE: Marvel Howard the Duck: Good Blade: Good Punisher (1989): meh X-men: Good Blade II: Good (I’m being nice) Spiderman: Good Deardevil: meh X2: Great Hulk: meh (personally, I like it, but I know how yall feel) The Punisher (2004):bad Spiderman 2: Great Blade Trinity: Meh Elektra: Bad Fantastic Four: Meh X-men Last Stand: Meh Ghost Rider: Meh Spiderman 3: Bad Fantastic 4 2: Bad Iron man: Great The Incredable Hulk: Good Punisher War Zone: Good Wolverine: Bad Ironman 2: Meh Thor: Good X-men 1C: Great Total: 8 good/great 11 meh/bad DC Batman (1966): Good (personally, I think great) Superman (1978): Great Superman II: Good Swamp Thing: Meh Superman III: bad Supergirl: Meh (but she was perdy) Superman IV: Meh Return of Swampthing: Bad Batman: Good Batman Returns: Great Batman Forever: Meh Batman and Robin: Bad Steel: Bad Catwoman: Bad Batman Begins: Great Superman Returns: Meh The Dark Knight: Great Watchmen: Good Jonah Hex: Bad Green Lantern: Bad (apparently) Total: 8 good/great 10 Bad/Meh Unless anyone reaaaly disagrees, I say they’re pretty even at this stage. Though it looks like Marvel has gotten it’s shit together, and has me more excited about the next 10 or so years
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wonder how the weekend box office receipts alone will match up
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June 16, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST
Even with the subjectivity of geek-taste, Im sure we can agree that they're pretty even, and that they've both made more shit than good
by Citizin_insane
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They tell me you're a man with.. true grit.
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The footage they've shown even got me excited. Damn, this should have been awesome!
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June 16, 2011, 7:06 a.m. CST
Not quite as creatively broken down as say, Mr. Beaks, but we appreciate your feelings too
by CT1
were getting somewhere
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We've been notified about this issue and we'll take a look at it shortly. FUCKSAKES. not again.
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or superman at all. God I hope it is! someone spill the beans! Yes? No? If it it I might go see this like a sap that cant help himself!! If not I wont bother , too much green shit flying around .yuck!
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Sarsgaard, as Hector Hammond, isn't particularly good - it's a weird, almost Lynchian performance and it belongs in a completely different movie. As his head deforms and grows, Sarsgaard screams and Brundleflys through the proceedings. Blake Lively does really nothing here except look pretty and get into danger. Mark Strong as Sinestro, the head of the Corps, is actually really good, but since it's Mark Strong playing him, you pretty much know where that story arc is going. I like Strong as an actor, and I liked the passion of Sinestro's character. But considering it's Strong playing him the post-credits scene with the character shouldn't come as any kind of surprise.
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more people would see it. visual effects artists animators HATE the colour green. From a design point its horrable colour to work with. magazines dont use the colour much because it kills sales. i know the problems with this movie arnt anything to do with the colour green but it cant help the box office success much.
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You know this to be true.
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Short blasts of action between long explanations of how Geoff John's rainbow universe works.
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June 16, 2011, 7:23 a.m. CST
Somebody didn't got a on-set invitation! I kid, of course. No, i'm really not suprised that the reviews are mostly negative.
by AsimovLives
I hate to say it, but i think the writing was on the wall. And i hate to say this in regard to a movie directed by Martin Campbel, who i respect a lot as a director. But this movie has always looked all kinds of wrong for me since it was anounced.
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dude, the rascal comments and greased ring... funny a shit. People throw around the term LOL, that's what I was doing. beyond the hurtful comments though, you have a good point. I really had high hopes for this. I was hoping to see something really awesome and not just another intro to the Avengers movie. ( I liked Thor, but wished it was longer and not just a 10 dollar setup for another movie) Now I'm probably still going to see it, but more as a car wreck... I'm driving down the cinema highway and I'm slowing down to see the carnage of the Green Lantern. Which so far looks to be shaping up as a head on between a neon green prism and an 18 wheeler.
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...could a fan-edit of this film save it? How is the pacing? Could some of the (apparently) ridiculous dialogue be cut? I can see it happening as soon as the bluray materialises with deleted scenes (of which I've heard there are a few).
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GRANT MAJOR. To ignore this is to ignore one of the best parts of the movie. It is a visual feast. Practical FX and make up were great. The CG was excellent save a few scenes. Some of the flaws seemed like they were on the edit room floor but you can't fault the cast and crew for that. Chop approved chopplings.
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It didn't take a Mensa member to see this shitfest coming. All you had to do was open your eyes and stop being in denial.
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I'm no Nordling but I saw the movie. Pacing could be saved by eliminating some Hal/Hector interaction that distracts in the middle of the film. It doesn't make too much sense and just distracts.
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If they eliminate some Hal/Hector interaction that doesn't make much sense it could improve the pacing. Less Tim Robbins too.
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tighten the screws fellers. My patience extends only to GL and not much more.
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...he's still got Deadpool. Although, there's no guarantee that'll be any good either. It comes down to this, if you're not in the hands of a certain Christopher Nolan hero-directed film, chances are you're in trouble.
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this kicks Deadpool in it's mouthless, adamantium sword wielding dick hole.
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June 16, 2011, 7:44 a.m. CST
So this is the slow chracter driven drama people beg for in TRANSFORMERS???
by 2007
I'll pass. bring on the action.
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CHOPPAH was in the shit. CHOPPAH has the thousand yard stare from being in country for far too long. How many times do I have to watch Professor X have tea and crumpets with Magneto? You cry for originality then beg for the familiar. Disgusting. Harden the fuck up.
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Seriously. Thor, Pirates 4, Kung Fu Panda 2, Super 8, and now GL. I have no hope for Cap or 'formers. What else was supposed to come out this summer?
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Is that the year you were born? Your post is befitting of someone that age.
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...but I actually respect that more than knee-jerk "it sucks!" proclamations. Still, I should point out that your math seems off. I count 12 films in your Marvel list that you've ranked good or great, not 8. Of course, one of them is Howard the Duck, but again, see above. Really, to me the most obvious difference is displayed by Green Lantern... Marvel has spread the successes around far more than DC, which has only managed to make the occasional good movie out of Batman or Superman. Somehow, they always drop the ball when they try it with anyone else.
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The original concept was that Hal Jordan was honest and "Born Without Fear" That's what made him a freak and unique among humans. You could find millions of humans who "have the ability to overcome fear". Like any kid who asks a pretty girl out on a date. So, to have Hal, the original "No Fear" guy meet an entity that embodies fear would have made a much more interesting "Hero's Journey". In the final analysis the "ability to overcome great fear" is still kind of wishy washy. "Born Without Fear" is totally fucking cool.
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I expect the reviewers on this site to express their opinion, be it good or bad, but to here all these fanboys cry about the directing and editing, fuck off. Shit, this is a bonafied Green Lantern movie, a Green Lantern movie, shit anyone remember the 80's, all these movies, were fucken comic books and now we can see them in movie form, and what do the fanboys cry about, even though only critics have seen the movie, directing, editing, for fuck sakes what are you expecting from a COMIC book movie....
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I must have read thirty reviews now. Many of them say a lot of good elements in the movie but, as a whole, they're a mess. Now, I've seen those good people at Fanedit.org pull off some major miracles in the last few years just by cutting or adding a few scenes. Oh, btw, why hasn't AICN announced the death of 3D yet? It is official... http://tinyurl.com/6kffbte ...better luck next time, Mr.Cameron.
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http://tinyurl.com/6kffbte - this is Mark Kermode's report.
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It was largely irrelevant.
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June 16, 2011, 8:16 a.m. CST
It should have been released on St. Patrick's Day. It might have boosted the bottom line at the box office.
by v3d
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If this flops it's another nail in 3Ds coffin although it may have a life on ppv sports channels. I bet the Potter producers wish they hadn't bothered spending the extra cash on the pointless retrofit.
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that is contrary to the whole movie and to the human condition. It sounds cool in concept but when you try to teach an 11year old a lesson in a movie, "courage is conquering your fears" makes much more sense. Hal being the first human Lantern and the weakness of the human race is a central point. To have him "born without fear" would defeat that. There are an awful lot of 30 something guys who seem to want to leap over character development and jump right into it action. Foreplay people. We need to teach our 11 year old boys about foreplay.
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June 16, 2011, 8:29 a.m. CST
the Deadpool movie is a reboot but still with Reynolds.
by Carl XVI Gustaf
Supposedly more like the comic source than anything ever showed in any of the X-men related movies. There's even been rumors about a (intro) scene where Deadpool watches a bit from "Wolverine", then turns and looks straight at the camera and says something like "that was bullshit". A very "Deadpoolian" scene if you will.
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that would mean he is a sociopath or psycopath, if i am correct. not that those people can't be heroic, but typically a lack of fear goes hand in hand with lack of emotion or moral safeguards.
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they should make no reference to that diarrhea puddle. Just do DEADPOOL justice.
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A report by Mark Kermode is hardly official. I'll thank you to not raise my hopes like that again.
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June 16, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST
DC Comics have REALLY overestimated opening weekend.
by Doctor_Strangepork
They've overloaded the shelves with more GL related trades and toys than even Marvel did with X-men and Thor. And I suspect one of the reasons they're rebooting their universe in two months was to take advantage of that new, summer blockbuster audience. So sad. They might as well have rebooted to capitalize on Jonah Hex.
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It's Ryan Reynolds. Playing a second rate character. In a PG13 movie. Reboot in 3 years?
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except maybe Avatar 2...
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I was really hoping this would be good. Guess we can kiss JUSTICE LEAGUE goodbye. Oh well, at least we still have the consistently good DC animations and comics.
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Maybe span out the origin in flashbacks, ala Dexter or something..That would not only make for a well rounded sequel, but it won't bog down the first movie with all that boring exposition.... The formula is old.
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Look at what Downey was saying the other day about refusing to film things we've all already seen many times over, he is a star and vehicle worthy, Ryan should have driven this project with his passion, maybe he never?
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I think the DC Marvel hit/shit list is an unfair comparison. Warner Bros. have always made DC movies and that single studio approach has yielded mixed results reflecting the different people in charge and their approach. However as owners of DC they have direct access to the comic book creator talent and should've have included them more in it. It would appear great cinema talent (Donner, Nolan & Burton sometimes) have made good DC movies whilst the others have floundered. This tells me the studio has no clear feel for their back catelogue of heroes & seem them as blockbuster fodder - why o why did they make Catwoman??? Marvel has had different studios handle their films and, like above, great cinema talent when left alone (Raimi, Singer, Vaughn) made good movies. But again indifferent talent turned out some right turkeys - Elektra and FF. But consider now where Marvel has owned their own properties and closely involved the comic book talents & referenced the source material - they have consistently made good-to-great films. They're not raping their characters for a quick buck. It was clear from the start Green Lantern was a formulaic approach based on CGI, 3D & Ironman success by people not sympathetic to the original material. It's obvious Johns "Secret Origin " limited series was the template but, for studio interfering etc., the material gutted and much worked over. GL Corps is galactic soap-opera which should've been as good as Star Wars if handled right - it's clear now they dropped the ball; yet again:( I really wanted a decent GL movie.
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June 16, 2011, 9:09 a.m. CST
and by atrocious, I mean so dark and murky and almost devoid of color..
by Simpsonian
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June 16, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST
The scenes on Oa look like Ryan Reynolds head floating around in a fucking cartoon.
by AzulTool
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In blackest night My pants are pixels instead of tights Let those who hoped we'd get it right Please rest assured That this film bites
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Harden the fuck up already and give us your GREEN LANTERN review!
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And now people are saying it IS dogshit. Weird.
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And 'pacing' was something fat guys who weren't getting laid would bitch about to feel better about their useless uneventful lives? Fuck Nordling and anyone else, I WILL be seeing this.
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June 16, 2011, 9:23 a.m. CST
"the script is a mess, the direction is uninspired, and the pace is flat-out boring." Uh, Reynolds rewrote the script!
by Professor_Monster
You people know NOTHING of what you review -- Ryan Reynolds refused to do what was on paper unless he gave all of the scenes he was in his magical touch as a writer. You want to blame someone for the screenplay, blame your little boytoy Reynolds. He must have promised everyone on this site a chance to smell the finger that was in Scarlett Joe. Maybe not a bad deal consider how must of you reviewers look.
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"Fuck Nordling"?? "FUCK NORDLING"?? Really? Boy you gotta real lesson comin to your ass
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Thanks for posting the same old mouth-breathing apologists view on a comic film that is :apparently: shitty (I still haven't seen it). It never fails that some fucking retard comes running out of the woods screaming in defence of comic films/popcorn flicks/action movies "what did you expect from a _______ movie? Shakespeare?". We EXPECT the same attributes that make ANY film GOOD, you fucking dolt. Just because the source material is a comic book, doesn't mean they shouldn't be beholden to QUALITY ACROSS THE BOARD. There is some fantastic writing an storytelling in comics, and there is NO excuse for defending a shitty comic film that doesn't deliver. Please, do the world a favour and run out into traffic.
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is not even that pretty.
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Bonkin Scarlett Jo for a while. Now Bullock. Ego the size of a continent. Making lots of money, fame etc. Girls drooling over him. Yeah, poor guy. I feel terrible. And you know this movie was gonna suck when they showed the big threat as some smog cloud. LAME!
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I can't speak to her acting skills as I've never seen any of her work, but she looks good to me.
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June 16, 2011, 10:01 a.m. CST
Seriously, did anyone actually expect any different outcome?
by Breotan
I don't hate the guy but Reynolds (along with Affleck and Gooding Jr) is pretty much the key indicator that a given movie is going to be crap. I know some of you don't want to believe that but it's just the way it is. One of the big problems with movies like this is that Hollywood is more in the 60s "Batman" mentality than the 00s Dark Knight. They just can't seem to take the super hero genre seriously enough to make an honest effort. Anyone who comes along and does try is in for an uphill battle. Also, given how SFX driven the GL property is, I'm honestly suprised they even tried.
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...of course neither did Thor but it ended up being a solid movie. Will not be seeing this.
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The one that was in ScarJo's turd cutter.
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For example, as said in review: Sarsgaard's performance belongs in another movie. <p> Directors assemble sequences, copied from other movies, mash them together, panic and slash connections to make it "edgy" and panic some more.
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June 16, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST
ok cool.............so lets get this flop out of the way...
by fat_rancor_keeper
and fucking give deadpool a shot already.
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I read when someone posted a quote from Martin Campbell about wanted to keep things grounded in reality. How he didn't like how in Super Hero movies someones thrown into a car and than gets up and goes back at it. Uh well here's the thing moron that's freaking comic book movies. When you have someone talking about grounding something as fantasy escapist driven as Green Latern, you know you're headed for disaster. I mean grounding things in reality work for properties like Batman or Iron Man. Where Batman's powers are his intellect and physical prowess it makes sense. Or as in Iron Man his power his knowledge of technology. It works to ground those things in some sense of practicality or reality. But for a space traveling Super Hero that encounters alien beings uh you can let go of the reality portion dude.
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Ok yes full disclosure I'm definitely a Make Mine Marvel guy. But it doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy great DC Superman (which majority of them sucked) or that I didn't greatly enjoy the new Batmans. But I mean Marvel his bitch slapping DC when it comes to comic book movies.
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And by fag, I mean me. You might want to expand that vocabulary of yours just a tad...
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u speaks da troof
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If you are deeply committed to either one and hate the other, you're an idiot. I grew up as a "Marvel kid", but as I got older, I gravitated more towards DC as the writing is better and the characters are more iconic. I think both companies have worthwhile books, but lately, I'm way more into DC than Marvel which has been pretty awful the last few years. All of that said, clearly Marvel rules the box office and DC, for some insane reason, can't seem to get anything off the ground other than Batman. That aside, the DCU animated shows and movies are AWESOME whilst the Marvel animated shows and movies are epicly awful. Either way, though, at the end of the day, Marvel has won Hollywood. I don't know why DC can't seem to get it right (other than Batman). It's like they're trying to fail. Sigh. Oh well, at least we still have the comics and animated features...
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When I said "animated shows and movies" I meant the animated tv shows and direct-to-dvd animated features. In this realm, DC owns. Too bad they can't get the live-action stuff (aside from Batman) right.
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June 16, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST
dirty_ape, even a monkey locked in a room with a typewriter
by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH
has a chance of producing a good movie review. It was bound to happen some time. It's quantum physics.
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I do agree that DC owns the animated universe. Marvel for some reason can't get there animated properties right. But as far as comics I'm still a Marvel guy. I mean I enjoy reading a DC book every now and then but I still love Marvel. Especially when they finally have good teams working on the books. I'm feeling Dan Slott on Amazing Spiderman right now.
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Yeah it's a epic even every week and it seriously has gotten old fast. This whole reboot thing is ridiculous to me.
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That's the only reason I'll see the movie (on a free ticket) at this point.
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...the most annoying step in the "Hero's Journey". It's usually way to overt, and in some cases far too drawn out. I always pray for heroes that say "Yeah cool!" and get on with the story like an actual person would in their shoes.
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but it looks like most of us were right- the trailers all looked rather bad and the movie is too. Real shame, I was hoping there was a good movie behind those weak trailers. So I guess we aren't haters, we just know a bad trailer when we see it. :(
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June 16, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST
HARRY WHERE'S YOUR GREEN LANTERN REVIEW?
by HarryWhereIsYourInceptionReview
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but the same thing can be said about Marvel too.
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Awesome poster = bad movie.
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June 16, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST
Wait...a scientist is taken over by an evil entity and acts on its behalf, while a hero who gains their power from another planet
by openthepodbaydoorshal
and battles the evil entity??? It's Howard The Duck Redux!!!
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Collider is running a contest for one of those cool Green Lantern rings that's going for megabucks on ebay! Enter to win here: http://collider.com/green-lantern-giveaway/95687/ That is the coolest thing! Frosty is the ONLY website running a contest for the ring WB Marketing gave away to people who didn't want it and are putting up on ebay. Kudos to Collider!
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Can't be as lame as Ghost Rider, amirite?!?
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June 16, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST
I knew this was gonna suck, the minute I heard Reynolds was involved.
by Stalkeye
Hal Jordan is supposed to have been a little more stoic, and not some arrogant hot-shot ace pilot. The main villian looks like some Leader (Hulk's nemesis) archetype and that blackish ooze just looks too damn campy. Where the fuck is Sinestro as the main baddie? I guess it's a good thing that SHAZAM didn't get made, I would hate for another one of my favorite DCU Characters to get the shitfest onscreen treatment.
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you're an idiot
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Hmm... do you think they'll bring back Mentor and the Winnebego?
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FYI never do a superhero movie (expect for Wolverine) unless you want to end your movie career.
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Becuz.
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I think he's still trying to collaborate with Hans Zimmer, only Hans is long gone.... So it really sounds like a bunch of incoherent Mess. The theme is weak...The treble is up WAY TOO HIGH in the recording.... Im surprised, considering King Kong was one of his best and he wrote that one in record time..... This one? Real Fuggin Ugly.
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June 16, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST
I like Reynolds a lot. Very talented guy. But I can feel no pity for him, ever.
by WriteForTheEdit
He got to have some sex (a ton, I hope) with Scarlett Johansson. After something like that, the rest of his natural life is just gravy.
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They way they are marketing this movie, their hoping for a big first weekend pay off before word of mouth gets out. I just knew it was gonna be shit simply by how heavy they are promoting it.
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June 16, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST
hopefully this means we'll see less and less of Reynolds, D.C - FAIL...MARVEL OWNS! After all the hype i'm so glad audiences are not fooled - now lets shoot down the fail of Transformers!!
by Arkhaminmate001
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June 16, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST
'So the new trend now is bad poster = awesome movie. Awesome poster = bad movie' ... ummmmmm
by golden tribw
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June 16, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST
How about when the posters are awful and the movie is godawful??? Like GREEN LANTERN?? Where does that fit into your little schema?
by golden tribw
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I know it's not made for me, the weekly comic book reader. I always look to the side effects of a movie in terms of tv cartoons, DTVs, a wider selection of action figures, etc. Spectacular Spiderman was a great show that should have gotten another season at least.
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June 16, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST
We'll never get another space galaxy super hero movie again.
by knowthyself
Sigh.
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June 16, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST
Just give me PROMETHEUS news and the ALIENS Colonial Marines video game. Oh yeah, I'm on to you Nordling!
by Darth_Kong
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Regardless of what you think of the film the Green Lantern comic is not wacky and silly. He's not Plastic Man.
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June 16, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST
Take Nordling advice and see it in 2D. 3D would just annoy your eyes.
by Lee harmon
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Under that small list of individuals on AICN who didn't fall for the usual bullshit Hollywood hype, ESPECIALLY, for a Ryan fucking Reynolds movie!! Suckers! Hope you all learned a lesson. Bring on Cap and a real super hero movie.
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June 16, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST
CONFIRMED a stinker, yet half of you MORONS will buy tickets for it...
by Fritzlorrerains
And the studios will keep crapping out this garbage. Thanks idiots.
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June 16, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST
I really wish they'd gone with the origin story from...
by Royston Lodge
...Red Son. The one where Hal Jordan was a POW in southeast Asia and he had to use his extreme willpower and imagination to survive the experience. It's that willpower and imagination that allows him to control the power ring. That was THE most badass portrayal of Hal Jordan ever. Enough of this smarmy douche business. It's Hall Jordan, NOT Guy Gardner!!! Fuck.
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I said it once that awful promo shot came out from ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY. The movie will be a big pile of shit! Some asshole argued with me that once I see the abomination of a suit "come to life" on the screen "YOUR MIND WILL BE BLOWN!" BULL SHIT I say! I will never see this shit farm of a movie... EVER! The Super Hero genre is dead.
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I have the complete run of Johns GL hardcovers, but this looked like a stinker since I first saw how fucked the costume looked. Will it bomb? It SHOULD, but shit, if even The Green Hornet can make money...
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June 16, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST
bibleman: To be fair, Blackest Night is a pretty cool crossover.
by Royston Lodge
Not all of DC's crossovers have been continuity-changing clusterfucks.
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If 'Pacing' were an actual factor in honest film-making (the intent of making a film to tell a story from a particular point of view/views, rather then belching out the next 'blackbuster/moneymaker'), more then 95% of ALL the great films ever made simply wouldn't exist. THAT is a fact. Granted, this film isn't going to be 'great'. Hell, it might not even be 'good'. But I like to see films on the basis of how clearly and intelligently the story is told. I like imagination, and sometimes a large dose of sarcasm in my movies. I'm glad 'pacing' isn't anything I consider when enjoying a film, which means my Anniversary Edition Laserdisc of 'Quiet Man' is regular fodder for my 'rainy-day' viewing >_< . If a movie is bad, let it be bad for allt he right reasons. There are 'bad' films I LOVE, like 'The Pirate Movie' with Kristy McNichol & Christopher Atkins. Then there are 'BAD' films like 'Ghost Rider' with Nic Cage. I won't even watch that turd on free cable. I find that MOST of the reviews on this site have devolved to a point of self-stroking overblown egotism, with no real grasp on what an honestly good or bad film is any more.
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Sorry if you hate Kermode (imo he has damn good taste). The fact that he can't be arsed to pander to Cannes promoters earned him mucho brownie points from me this year. I just thought his blog piece might be of interest. If those stocks in REAL-D are plummeting then that is very significant.
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GR is the worst comic movie in recent memory. I would rather watch cat woman or Electra. At least they seemed to try. GR had the worst attempts at action ever put on screen. Fuck that movie. And fuck nic cage and his shitty acting.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=tCCaiiShS9o
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He would have been perfect in that movie. He is not Hall Jordan, but from the description Hal Jordan is not Hal Jordan in this movie anyway. When the hell was Hal Jordan reluctant to be a hero? He was cocky as hell in the comic.
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Movie- ok 3-D should be left in the hands that can actually utilize it. to much these days is like watching, playboy, on scrambled cable, circa '90.
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June 16, 2011, 3:05 p.m. CST
I'm annoyed because will never get Ryan Reynolds as Flash
by Andrew Coleman
Which I think he's perfect for. This movie might suck... But at least we never got that Jack Black version rumored years ago. Also those of you who think comic book movies are going to die off don't see to understand what Hollywood is about these days. If they go away what exactly are studios going to replace them with? Not original content that's for sure. Sorry but studios are going to ride these movies for another decade or so. What we need to hope dies is this up coming slate of "board game" movies like Candy Land and Battleship coming up. I'm only down for a Hungry Hungry Hippos game or a hard R-Rated Operation movie. That's it.
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http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110615/REVIEWS/110619994
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June 16, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST
I liked the passion of Sinestro's character. But considering it's Strong playing him the post-credits scene with the character shouldn't come as any kind of surprise.
by captaincosmos
... Oh, that and the fact that the mutherfucker's name is... um... "SINESTRO"! Ha! And there you have a perfect illustration (pun intended) of why faithfully adapting comic book source material is such a tricky proposition. But, yeah... sounds like they really screwed the pooch on this one. And I was gonna have the wife and kids take me to see it on Fathers's Day, too. Now we'll probably end up seeing Kung Fu fucking Panda 2 --- just great. Thanks a lot, Martin Campbell, you asshole.
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If they could do an NC-17 Twister, I think that would be worthwhile as well!
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Two and a half stars. He liked it better than "Thor," which he gave one and half stars.
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Told ya'll ma fuckuhs. I'm rollin with Ebert. CHOPPED!
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the silver age dc heroes are all boring...they had to be...there was the code but they fit the times i got a bit excited when i saw the trailer using oa and the corps...but seems that this is just filler too bad...couldve turned lantern into a space epic suggestion for the sequel (if there is one) kill off jordan and go with stewart...and really use the lantern corp
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June 16, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST
WB strikes again. You'd think they learned their lesson from Superman Returns, no wait Batman and Robin, no wait, ahh who gives a shit now.
by The Founder
The movie is already done
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June 16, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST
There must be lesbian T&A in this if Ebert liked it
by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH
Unless, like BSB, old Ebert has a thing for the RR trouser snake.
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June 16, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST
Tim Robbins is like 12 years older than Peter Saarsgard...
by Darth Macchio
WTF? Doesn't anybody even own a calculator at WB? I'm sure they bust em out when they're calculating all the fantasy cash they're gonna make. But seriously, I like both Saarsgard and Robbins as actors but one guy is the dad and he's actually only twelve years older than the guy that is supposed to be his son, and there's no "Terminator/Back2theFuture" goofy time machine vibe so wtf? I thought Supe Returns was bad casting a 23 year old as the mother of a kid (at least 6) while also being the winner of a Pulitzer prize. As stupidly unlikely as that is, it's a completely different planet to the sheer "absolutly never ever happen" play on a 12 year old having a son and then winding up a congressman. But beyond that, I'll reserve any complaints until the film is seen by my eyeballs.
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June 16, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST
I never get excited about a good director on board a comic flick cause....
by The Founder
They don't get it. Not saying all but I just remember the crap hulk from Ang Lee. We all knew it was gonna be pure gold and guess what, we were all wrong.
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June 16, 2011, 4:29 p.m. CST
So much for The Silver Surfer but I think Fox ruined him in FF2
by The Founder
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I know it is. Just got a feeling
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He still liked it, I read the whole thing he really does not say anything to negative about it. It is what it is your typical ehh superhero film.
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June 16, 2011, 4:40 p.m. CST
Dare I say it? It seems that the tech and budget wasn't there to give us the GL CORPS movie that was needed for success.
by Boober
I mean, sh!t, I go to some website and see bios for what, 30 (!) green lanterns, and if that kind of tease isn't rewarded, then it's only because the $$$ and technology wasn't there and plan B was this formulaic, earth-bound drama where reluctant hero fights played-out (Smokey-Lost meets NES's nothing meets FF Faux-Galactus) thrift store CGI. Yes, the "hero's journey" gamble was a cost-savings measure that destroyed any chance for success. P.S., how about having some imaginative emerald constructs instead of some 50s Erol Flynn swords and an 80s predator-style chain gun. SHEESH...LAME.
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First Wolverine now this shitty movie. Dude needs to learn how to judge a script. Or fire his agent...Just because it's a superhero movie doesn't mean you accept the role. It has to have some sort of potential.
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He's so spot on for that character it's ridiculous.
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If superman does not pan out we will see no more DC properties except batman.
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Bullshit! If they took the Matrix/Star Wars route this could've been a classic. But instead it's a paint by numbers borefest. Making it sillier would've made a bad situation worse. Think Son of the Mask.
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He hasn't been relevant since the 80's.
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June 16, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST
Where DEFUCK is Harold Throckmorton Knowles IV's review of GREEN LANTERN?
by THE_CHOPPAH
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June 16, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST
Ebert been consistently, provably wrong on sci-fi/comic book films for decades
by quantize
He didn't even like Blade Runner for fucks sake...The dude only gets drama, he doesn't understand action movies whatsoever..never has
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You are severely biased.
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http://www.darkhorizons.com/features/1581/what-re-the-most-acclaimed-comic-book-films
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June 16, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST
If the movie is this bad, and it sounds pretty soul-destroying.......
by david starling
.......Then I imagine that Harry is trying to well-up all of his feelings into a review, that will try to make some sense of the apparent mess. I imagine he'll find some light out of the darkness.
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GREEN LANTERN makes JONAH HEX look alrightish. Here's the thing, though...it's so fucking garish and ugly, you might not even notice how stupid it is, too. So, there's that. Knock yourselves out.
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2 and a half stars is a thumb DOWN.
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He gave Avatar 4 damn stars! Whatever infinitesimal amount of credibility he was bitterly clinging to was flushed right out to Lake Michigan along with his aspirations to ever again attain his 80's level of relevance.
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GL is not supposed to be silly. It's supposed to be a serious sci-fi epic. This isn't camp, it's serious. THE DARK KNIGHT would not have been the epic it was had it gone the Adam West route.
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Plot points are seen a mile off, it is slow, the writing for Hal's character is horrendous, and Reynolds is mis-cast. The actions is ho-hum, nothing that makes you go "Wow", but flying around Oa in 3D was great.
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Especially the finale
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I feel ya, man. Don't get me wrong, I still like Marvel, I'm just more into DC lately. I think both companies have good books, and both make similar mistakes. I just don't understand how someone could be so militant about liking either company and completely hate the other company. I mean, it's not a fucking Religious War, it's comics. You can like both for their merits and criticize both for their failings. I NEVER understood the weird, over-wrought, sad allegiance to any one company over the other. That's "obese middle aged virgin living in mom's basement" behavior.
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June 16, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST
Unfortunately the casting told us they weren't taking this property seriously.
by HollywoodHellraiser
This isn't Spider-Man where they should cast someone young. GL is about an guy who harden, cynic, doesn't know fear, and blames himself for his father death. What this movie tries to sell us is a fantasy about getting a superpower and saving the world. Thats Superman! GL is about a galactic police force, who uses their rings/will to enforce the law. Thats the different between GL and Supes. That difference can be seen between Supes and Batman. If anyone doubt my love for Green Lantern than they can look through my big collection of GL comicbooks! I HATE that Ryan Reynold was cast! I HATE Blake Lively and the rest of GL bland cast. I HATE MartinCampbell being chosen for director! I HATE the screenwriters who didn't give a lick about the source and spirit of GL! I HATE that GL won't be given the movie I HATE that WB AND DC just didn't give a shit! I HOPE there a reboot in GL future and I HOPE I'm alive to see it, even if I'm 80 yrs old!
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Wait, what?? Snyder is directing??? Jesus fucking Christ. It's like they WANT these things to fail. Dear DC: Just wrap up Batman and then stick to animation. You don't know how to make live action movies based on your properties. Stop embarrassing yourselves and losing money. Sincerely yours, Reality
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I think it probably will be. MARVEL Studios has definitely got the whole formula down pat and they pretty consistently turn out good flicks. (The Onion did a pretty great video analysis of this a few weeks back when First Class came out). I mean, yeah, there's utter crap like Ghost Rider, Daredevil, and the FFs, but, Spiderman, XMen, Iron Man, Hulk (I liked both Lee's and the newish one, actually), and Thor have all been good. Fuck, I fuckin' LOVED First Class. I think it's better than X2, easy. I hope Cap is as good. I'm definitely psyched that they're doing it as a retro 40s WW2 film. It should totally end with him encased in ice.
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June 16, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST
If GL bombs, then it's all on Zach Snyder next year with Superman...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
And if that fails to excite the public, then The Dark Knight Rises will be all that's left of DC's respectability in the movies. Regardless, starting in 2013, Superman may not even be with DC anymore or belong to WB.
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I sat through battle la and skyline This can't be that bad
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All three reviews claim it's formulaic but goddamn if the same structure isn't inherent in at least half of all of these movies. Yes, Joseph Campbell blah blah. But why is GL being called out on it? Is it really that bland that it can't even manage what Thor did? I'm pretty curious about this. I want to like it, but I understand what many of the reviews are saying...it hits all the marks without making one itself.
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I liked Battle LA. Sometimes you just gotta these things and decide for yourself. I will be seeing GL this weekend- I've waited too long to see it to pass it up because of the reviews.
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The GL poster at the top of this thread is very similar to the new poster for John Carter of Mars (JCM) that was just released yesterday. What... are there only 2 or 3 people designing key art these days? The concepts are identical!
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So I don't think Reynold's career is over just yet. I haven't seen GL but I have a hard time believing it is this bad, but it is being universally panned. I loved Thor, I loved First Class, I was really looking forward to this but now I'm not sure. Is this another Watchmen? A really good movie being universally panned?
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. AICN reviews are generally the worst written fanboy drivel on the net. Except for the Wyrm. The Wyrm could write for a major paper or magazine. Ebert has a fine review of GL on his site. Personally, this is THE film for me this summer. Maybe I'll hate it as much as Quint, Nordling, et al, but I think I'm going to like it. Still dying to see it. GL means as much to me as Spider-Man, yet I can understand that movies and comics work very differently (duh). You can't cram an entire super-hero history into one movie, but give me the essence of what I love about the character. I'm still hoping that I love it.
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Thanks a lot. It is because of fools like you they continue to make drivel like GL.
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The movie me made with Sandra Bullock made HUGE bank and continues to trend well. Maybe he needs to just let Dane Cook tale all these roles (most folks dont realize they are 2 people anyway), and stick to making rom-com chick-flixs.
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June 16, 2011, 10:13 p.m. CST
Comic Writers WERE the ones who worked on Green Lantern
by jericho1368
Marc Guggeinheim wrote the shit. He also wrote Eli Stone. Brothers and Sisters. A bunch of other Greg Bertinelli tv shows. He authored the Death of Bart Allen Flash and other comics that aren't burning up people's must read lists). Marc also writes for Marvel Comics, Spider-Man post-OMD. Which should put everything in a nut shell right there.
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2 hours of my life I'd very much like to get back. I agree. Wasted opportunities all the way around.
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GREEN LANTERN was unnecessarily superficial and a lost opportunity. It tries to be IRON MAN but the script is forced and the fun factor never succeeds in being fun. Reynolds is good, Lively is not. Hammond is reduced to a Saturday cartoon-level character and the worst part is how the Guardians are portrayed as an inept council of MARS ATTACKS characters. I think this film does not deserve a sequel, but if they go for another one, they need a) a new director, b) Geoff Johns to script the damn thing and c) keep Reynolds as Jordan. While his motivation and character arc were all poorly done, Hal Jordan exists somewhere between the layers thanks to Reynolds. Reynolds makes this thing watchable-- but so much was wasted in attempting to capture IRON MAN's vibe.
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June 17, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST
See...there is this lantern...and it's green. So the guy becomes The Green Lantern.
by Bob Cryptonight
Right. But they are all aliens, and it's an advanced race. But for some dumb-fuck reason they still retain the importance of a lantern. Jesus. Just accept that this character was created to sell funny books to little kids. And the owners of the copyright have tried to continue the revenue generated from that original character by CONSTANTLY updating it to appease different generations. So, essentially, it's like Campbell's Soup. Buy it. Eat it. Enjoy. Repeat. But please don't get all bent out of shape if no one can make a MOVIE out of it!! LOL!!!!
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Light garbage that's all over the place, no sense of self
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Hal finding the ring and becoming the Green Lantern could have been summed up in 5 minutes, or during the opening credits. Then there could have been a real story featuring the hero character doing what he's supposed to be doing.
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You're an idiot. They HAVE made a good movie out of it, but it was animated. If the studio execs with their fingers in pies they have no business being in can't figure out how to do that in live action it is not Green Lantern's fault, not the comic book's fault. Good Writing can make a movie of any subject work.
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What screenwriters should realize is that the Hero's Journey is not a formula or recipe for creating a story, but an analysis of stories throughout human history. You aren't meant to use it as a plan for your own story, just as a means of understanding the types of things that show up often and resonate with human audiences. You might include some elements, in any order, but you do not need to include all of them in the same order every time you write!
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Onion's article about why Marvel's movies work well? cant find it in their site
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June 17, 2011, 2:25 a.m. CST
I can see where Nordling is coming from in his review but I saw it a different way. I felt it was entertaining and worth seeing but it has flaws.
by The Founder
I just expected an awful film. Sorry but it wasn't. The audience I saw it with loved it from what I could tell and it was a full house with no walk outs. I agree there was no passion in it kind of but RR nails Jordan and he does a good job. He didn't t Ham it up like I feared he may based on direction from the suits. Th e weak points was as Nordling said. Not enough Patrolling and not enough of the corps in action. I know doing that would've run up the budget considerably so they had to set shit on Earth. The earth scenes were not boring in my opinion but I just felt let's get off the freaking planet. It worked. I think Paralax was used to soon and wiped out to soon for a first movie. Hammond was just useless but needed to give Hal something to do on Earth. The saving grace of Hammond is that Paralax was responsible for his creation so that's what prevent him from being a bad villain. Lively was pretty to look at but she is not a good actress. Why this woman was cast is beyond me and she looks way to young to be peers of Hal and Hammond. An actress late to early 30's should've been cast. A Natalie Portman type would've been good fit. The OA scenes are good and the training is one of the greatest moments in the movie. They nailed OA, the corps, Sinestro, Kilowog, Tomar-ra or re and Abin Sur and The Guardians were good although a different look. Another problem was the lack of any type of music score. One was needed and it showed. I think it was a good effort that fell somewhat short but it's still worth seeing and quite entertaining.
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June 17, 2011, 2:28 a.m. CST
I want a sequel and if WB dodges a bullet and it makes some cash they better axe Campbell and the rest of the team. I think it's a given they will based of the reviews.
by The Founder
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June 17, 2011, 4:27 a.m. CST
CHRIS EVANS WILL BE IN THE REBOOT, AND YES RYAN REYNOLDS WILL KISS A DICK TO DO DEADPOOL
by Meadowe
Taylor Kitsch as Gambit and Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool were the only redeemable things about xo:w imo, and hopefully we'll get *good* movies about both characters in the next few years.
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June 17, 2011, 4:32 a.m. CST
AND BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE ON THE AWESOME X-MEN FIRST CLASS AND SUPERLAME 8, IDK WHETHER OR NOT TO SEE GL
by Meadowe
I thought xfc would be a pos, but it was one of the best comic book movies I have ever personally seen. Then I saw the reviews for superlame8 and against my rule on getting reviews from a trusted peer I saw it and was extremely annoyed by Joe Lamb's friends. I usually like summer because I can see a movie right on opening night, but these gl reviews have me confused; will it be the opposite of my s8 experience, or will they be spot on? I'm too young and also financially strapped to do anything but see movies, and I'm also getting a little impatient to wait for someone to tell me it's good.
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Green Lantern was always a weak rip-off of E.E. Doc Smith's classic Lensman pulps. There was some talk of a Lensman movie on the horizon, but I fear that the shallow similarities between these characters will doom any attempt to make a proper Lensman movie. (Btw, I think the Lensman anime is alright, but it is not faithful to the source material at all)
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it's called STAR WARS....
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It actually wasn't an article, it was one of those video roundtables they do. It was ostensibly about XMen First Class, but they went off on a tangent about how the Marvel Studio formula and why it works. Sorry, I don't have the link on hand right now, but poke around and you should find it.
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XMen: First Class wasn't done by Marvel Studios? Are you sure? They had the logo thingee at the beginning.
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So... as it turns out, we were right. Those of us that suggested it would be bad because of aspects shown in the trailers were actually shown to be justified in our opinions. The movie was weak in every part that we expected it to be weak. You said that we were wrong and that this is going to be the BEST MOVIE EVER and then were as offensive as you could possibly be to those of us whom you disagreed with.<p> And yet you come back with that same bravado you had before about this film? You, sir, HAVE to be a plant at this point.
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Green Lantern ROCKED! See it! See it again! Ryan Reynolds owns Hal Jordan!
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Stupid iphone keyboard. I don't know what people expected, but i thought it wad a great first outing. Wish they explained why sinestro put on the ring at the end.
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But I finally went to see it so it's still making money! Not just from me, either. There was one other person in the theater. He likewise didn't seem much enthused.
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