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  • June 9, 2011, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Nobody will watch this!

    by Mister Vertue

    Ha ha! Only joking, we still love you Russell and Julie!

  • June 9, 2011, 5:18 p.m. CST

    To be honest,- I don't like much of the marketing

    by notspock2

    And still- I really enjoyed seasons 2 and 3 and the premise for Miracle Day, is frankly, brilliant- so count me in. Anyone know when the UK showing is? If it's not day and date with Starz, the BBC is shooting itself in the foot.

  • June 9, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Reboot or continuation??

    by Rustle

    Does this tie in with the British show, or is it a reboot for the States.??

  • June 9, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST

    rustle-

    by notspock2

    It's a continuation.

  • June 9, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST

    So

    by Extr3m1st

    I would need to watch the first few seasons of Torchwood before watching this? What have I missed so far, just the first 2 seasons or have their also been specials as well?

  • June 9, 2011, 5:51 p.m. CST

    @extr3m1st

    by zer05um

    You NEED to watch episode 1, season 1 and all of season 3 - Children of Earth. Watching the rest is worth it, even when it did get silly. Season 3 is possibly the ballsiest piece of TV I ever saw. Brilliant and dark as hell.

  • June 9, 2011, 5:53 p.m. CST

    extr3m1st

    by Bad Wolff

    There was a third season mini series of 5 episodes called "Children of Earth."

  • June 9, 2011, 5:58 p.m. CST

    by Matthew King

    while it is "season" 4. everything I've heard is that it's set up as a starting off point where you don't need to watch the early stuff. so new fans won't get confused at all the backstory and history

  • June 9, 2011, 5:59 p.m. CST

    extr3m1st

    by notspock2

    I suspect that there's going to be plenty of exposition at the beginning of miracle day to bring people up to speed. I'd be lying if I wholeheartedly recommended season 1 to anyone- it wears it's "adult audience" credentials on it's sleeve a bit too much and personally I found it offputting. If you do start there, know this- it gets better. MUCH better. The show starts finding it's feet in season 2 when it becomes good, poppy scifi, (kind of an "Angel" to Doctor Who's "Buffy") and morphs into a proper SCIFI EVENT in season 3 (Which was called "Children of Earth)

  • June 9, 2011, 6:08 p.m. CST

    I Bet...

    by Gary Cochran

    The series will show us a hook to get us interested and then go into a section of flashbacks covering Owen, Toshiko, and the others that died. Gotta spend at least a few minutes explaining the show and the mythology of previous seasons.

  • June 9, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    notspock2

    by Mister Vertue

    Last I heard it was due to air on Starz on July 8th, so the Beeb won't be far behind. I know there was some fuss about the BBC air date being announced as July 1st a while back, but that's definitely not true. I'm rather excited to see what happens next to Jack and the rest of the (remaining) team.

  • June 9, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    man_of_vertue.

    by notspock2

    I am rather excited too, which makes it a bit strange when I see the Torchwood BBC site has barely updated since 2009... Wasn't the last series a pretty huge hit? Why are they not shouting from the rooftops? NEW EPISODES OF BIG HIT SHOW THAT YOU, THE AUDIENCE LIKE ! COMING SOON!

  • June 9, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST

    I don't know this for sure

    by Mister Vertue

    But it seems like 'the powers that be' at Auntie Beeb have decided to wait and see just how popular the show will become over in the States. I agree with you that they should be shouting from the rooftops because Russell, James and John did a splendid job of pulling off that third series. Now don't get me wrong, TV execs aren't the idiots that everyone thinks they are. In fact most of them are rather brilliant and wonderful people, but sometimes a person higher up the ladder is pulling the strings (especially when it comes to finances) and it's taken out of their hands. Let's hope it proves to be a big hit for everyone across the Atlantic and then maybe the BBC will push the boat out even further for Mr Harkness. Okay, bedtime for me. I swore I'd be in bed before 2am and I haven't even brushed my bloody teeth yet.

  • June 9, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST

    not reboot or remake...but one thing not mentioned yet

    by Daniel

    and that drives me crazy is, will they acknowledge, the american characters i mean, and basically any new character, that they live in a world where aliens are a known thing, where the world has recently in the last couple years been invaded by daleks and cybermen and that the earth and 27 or so other planets were all moved to another place in space and were brought back to where earth should be by the doctor and so and and so on, will they acknowledge that every child on earth just stopped presumably a year ago, all of these giant earth shattering things that are canon and that everyone on the earth is aware of except for donna noble, will this be mentioned, or will the new character be like...ALIENS???? WHAT IS THIS YOU SAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!

  • June 9, 2011, 8:53 p.m. CST

    So how did starz get Torchwood and not BBC America?

    by mistergreen

    And will the doctor make an appearance?

  • June 9, 2011, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Americanized Torchwood

    by Sci-FiJunky

    The doctor will never be mentioned, nor will there be any continuity from previous seasons explored with any real depth. I have enjoyed the previous three series over the years, but one thing has always bothered me about the show: It really drives me nuts that Torchwood is supposedly this super secret organization that even some people in government don't know, and yet they drove around in a huge, black SUV with "TORCHWOOD" emblazoned all over it like an ambulance - and with sirens and lights. And they would announce who they were to the cops at crime scenes and flash badges. Didn't really seem all that clandestine to me.

  • June 9, 2011, 10:10 p.m. CST

    to sci-fijunky

    by Daniel

    if you had watched the season of doctor who before torchwood season 1 debuted you would understand, it was an organization started by queen elizabeth(correction on which one) way back in the day, a super secret organization that has authority over all forms of law, so the higher ups in government would know if torchwood is coming let them threw because you cant stop them and they have literally the highest clearance

  • June 9, 2011, 11:11 p.m. CST

    It'll flop on Starz...

    by lynxpro

    I find it funny how the BBC was so keen to get a co-production deal with an American channel for "Torchwood" yet wouldn't consider it at all for "Doctor Who" and moved it from SyFy over to the lower rated BBC America channel in order to prop it up. Regardless, "Torchwood" will be a flop for Starz. The story sounds stupid.

  • June 9, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST

    I bet you won't have to already be familiar with the show

    by sunspot_mike

    But what a treat that they're not doing a bastardized American remake like Life on Mars, but a proper continuation with Gwen and Rhys and RTD! I've been trying to get my Dad into nu-Who and Torchwood because we've been watching sci-fi together forever, but I always have to put on the closed captions so that he can catch the dialogue, maybe for this one I won't have to!

  • June 10, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST

    from a guy with the name genderblender...

    by Daniel

    odd comment

  • June 10, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    More videos out there.

    by CCon99

    I saw other videos like these with Oswald Dane (Bill Pullman) and Jilly Kitzinger (Lauren Ambrose) too.

  • June 10, 2011, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Marketing does SUCK for this...

    by V'Shael

  • June 10, 2011, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Herc, let's call it a TORCHBACK, like our Docbacks!

    by wtriker1701

    Now that you've embraced the idea of joining the Whoniverse - let us welcome you! You know, Merrick did the right thing! And it's never too late. I'm curious, if this time, the Doctor might pay a visit to Torchwood. Now, that they are in discussions about Jack coming back to Who... It was a reaaaal nailbiter with CoE, that in Jack's Darkest Hour you thought you could almost hear the Tardis arriving just in time to save the day... WOW, what a ballsy show!!!

  • June 10, 2011, 2:43 a.m. CST

    So does Torchwood have the goal...

    by Bass Ackwards

    ...of changing networks each season, or is that just kind of a weird coincidence that's happened?

  • June 10, 2011, 3:58 a.m. CST

    What's up with all these Torchwood/Dr Who talkbacks?

    by rhaemye

    Dr Who Cares.

  • June 10, 2011, 5:14 a.m. CST

    To Lynxpro

    by ComicGuru

    >>>>I find it funny how the BBC was so keen to get a co-production deal with an American channel for "Torchwood" yet wouldn't consider it at all for "Doctor Who" and moved it from SyFy over to the lower rated BBC America channel in order to prop it up. Regardless, "Torchwood" will be a flop for Starz. The story sounds stupid. <<<< Actually BBC America bid for the show and simply bid more than Scy Fy did. Also the viewing figures for BBC America have been consistantly higher than those on Scy Fy because of the heavy marketing campaign. Try picking up a DC comic in recent months without a full page add for the good Doctor on it. Doctor Who now gets more than a million viewers for its first showing. This is staggering viewing figures for BBC America and far higher than any single figure that Scy Fy used to get. What most cable channels do is add the three weekly showings together and give out the final figure. This is what Scy Fy used to do. BBC America has been proudly shouting from the rafters that they've been getting those figures with a single first showing. Torchwood was also getting very high figures for BBC America so with Starz being a smaller channel they should get very nice figures and a healthy boost of new pay per view subscribers. This should be a good solid success. Hopefully.

  • June 10, 2011, 5:16 a.m. CST

    scifijunky

    by huskerdu2

    You're wrong. Apparently there ARE references to Doctor Who and the Doctor himself is mentioned by name. Remember, this isn't a Starz original show. They're just one of three partners in this. And not only that, but this IS still a Doctor Who spin-off. Always has been, always will be.

  • June 10, 2011, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Much prefer these to the main trailer

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    I'm actually looking forward to this one.

  • June 10, 2011, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Imagine a Moffat version of TW!

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    It would have been awesome. Instead, we got Chris Chibnall. URGH. Thank fuck RTD came back for "Children Of Earth" and actually made it live up to the premise.

  • June 10, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Huskerdu2

    by Sci-FiJunky

    I sure hope you are right! I am just not very optimistic when it comes to American TV producers. I have been a fan of Doctor Who since I first came across an airing of Revenge of the Cybermen on PBS back in the late 70's. I hope RTD is able to keep this new series within continuity.

  • ...I would have been overjoyed and had very little reservations about the whole thing. Yeah, that's more like it RTD. Stick to this kind of imagery and you may just win some of the naysayers back (myself included.) Much better.

  • June 10, 2011, 9:07 a.m. CST

    rhaemye- check out the number of posts these things get...

    by sam jacksons wig

    ...and check out the fan base dedicated to it all and you'll find out just WHO cares...... Thanks for adding 1 more post to the thread!

  • ...with you, it's probably about 3 or 4 more! TTHHAAAAAANNNKKKSSSS!!!!!!

  • ....continuity within the story isn't a main concern, it's how he treats the product as a whole. Early glimpses looked okay (voice over teaser), main trailer fucked things up royally, but these look okay. Trouble is you can't judge the finished product on any of this as some (including myself) have been quick to do. I am a touch more optimistic than at first I was.

  • June 10, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST

    zer05um - yes! agree 100%!! Children of Earth was just great sci-fi!

    by sam jacksons wig

    It was unlike any of the previous Torchwood before it and gut punched you relentlessly! Seriously good TV!

  • June 10, 2011, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Indeed they aren't Sam!

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    I have a feeling that we may… just may…. be pleasantly surprised by this one. Sure, we all (or, at least most of us) appreciated COE but we probably figured it would be a one-off. Something tells me that this may actually turn out to be a very good show and, after watching an episode or two, there will be messages floating around the Torchbacks with people saying "Well, okay, this is actually much better than I thought it'd be!" Since 24 ended, I've been looking for an ongoing drama involving guns and conspriacies. The fact that it adds possible aliens is a bonus. (Of course, it could turn out to be terrible and I'll be forced to eat my words)

  • June 10, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST

    scifijunky

    by huskerdu2

    The things I mentioned are all direct quotes from RTD himself in the newest Doctor Who Magazine. Apparently there's even a reference to a yet-to-be-aired Sarah Jane Adventure. Make of that what you will!

  • June 10, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST

    America, please for fucks sake

    by Martin Hogg

    .....watch this show, come on, i've watched LOADS of american stuff over the last 30 years, and quite frankly, u lot still owe me for Team Knight Rider

  • June 11, 2011, 6:28 a.m. CST

    but.....but.....

    by Martin Hogg

    I'll admit that season 1 was a bit hokey, especially the orgasm alien..... But it keeps going from strength to strength!!!! Are you seriousley telling me you didnt like children of earth?

  • June 11, 2011, 8:54 a.m. CST

    lordoflight - you're just trolling now mate.

    by sam jacksons wig

  • June 11, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Children of Earth was sad, brave, but AWESOME! **Spoilers**

    by Jawsh Murdock

    I know it was only 5 episodes long, and it was pretty much one continuous story... but it might just be the best story telling RTD has ever done. Sure it has a lot of "Who" cliches with the 456 monster in the mist, and the creepy kid moments, but it worked. Almost too well! It's freaking heart wrenching at the end. I wanted so badly for Jack's grandson to be immortal like him, but alas... the ending was more poignant the way it was. There is a part of me that wants to see Jack redeem himself from that ending, but I also doubt they will have the ability to top that ending. I'm not sure that this 4th season will have any chance of matching Children of Earth (of course I'm also mad that they didn't stop Dexter after last season, that was the perfect end IMO!) I have respect for shows that cut it off at the right time. The British are usually better at this than Americans. Which is why I'm a bit skeptical of this Americanized Torchwood. However, I'll still watch this. I suffered through Torchwood Season One, (we need a medal for that!) so I'll see this one out. I hope it does well, STARZ or no.

  • Sorry, Comicguru, but your data is incorrect. When BBC America reports its viewer ratings for Doctor Who, it is the ratings from 3 separate airings. And despite that, they've yet to top the highest rating SyFy scored - from one single airing - with it when the first run episodes were on SyFy first. SyFy got 2 million+ viewers without hardly any marketing dollars spent on promoting the show. Why is that? Because SyFy is in most markets a "basic cable" channel and BBC America is a "third tier digital plus platinum" channel. You know why "Doctor Who" is the third best selling tv series via Apple's iTunes in the US? Because hardly anyone can actually tune into BBC America. BBC Worldwide gave the show to BBC America in order to get the fans to pressure the cablecos to carry the channel. We the fans are being used to make BBC America a success. And by switching to BBC America, BBC Worldwide got to cancel the DVD revenue sharing agreement they had in place with SyFy as a condition for the show airing on SyFy. So when you get angered over the high price of "Doctor Who" Blu-rays or DVDs, its also because your dollars are going directly to BBC America to pay for BBC America's marketing campaign. Personally, I'd rather have the show back on SyFy so I can actually watch it in HD legally. For folks subscribed to Comcast or DirecTV, the BBC America HD channel does not exist.

  • June 12, 2011, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Children of Earth...

    by lynxpro

    As some have said, it was a ripoff of Quartermass, which John Carpenter was a fan of. I haven't checked but supposedly it's available through NetFlix... So thank the writers of Quartermass for Children of Earth being good...