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Nordling Treasures SUPER 8! UPDATED With New Struzan-Inspired Poster!

Thanks to IMP Awards for the new poster.

Nordling here.

J.J. Abrams' SUPER 8 wears its influences proudly.  There's no mystery where SUPER 8 comes from - it's a straight-up 1970s/1980s adventure film, with E.T., THE THING, JAWS, POLTERGEIST, you name it - those movies that we worshipped at the altar of when you were a child, if you're a Gen-Xer.  It's no accident that this is a Steven Spielberg production - SUPER 8 feels like a film he would have made back then, although while there are places in Spielberg's films that work perfectly, there are a few places in SUPER 8 where Abrams doesn't quite stick the landing.  More on that in a bit.

As Quint's the resident JAWS guy, I'm all over E.T. like a cheap (rubber) suit.  The movie had, and continues to have, an enormous influence on me and my outlook on movies, and hell, just life in general.  E.T. is probably the reason I'm such an optimist about things - with a little gumption, help from your friends, and maybe a really kickass bike, I think people can accomplish anything they set their mind to.  I've probably seen the film, I'd guess, at least 80 or 90 times.  I'd say that's about right.  If it's on cable (and the past couple of years it's been on HBO a lot), and I see it's on, I'll sit and finish it.  In fact, it's a funny thing - if E.T. is on and my wife is flipping through the channels, she passes that one up very rapidly, because if a snippet of it plays I'll tell her to turn it back.  So when SUPER 8 was announced, and that it was a throwback to those films of my childhood, the Spielberg Years, as it were, my anticipation level for it shot through the roof.  Also, my daughter would be the same age as I was when I first saw E.T., and I really wanted to see this with her for the first time, and see how she reacted to it.

Is SUPER 8 as good as E.T.?  No way in hell.  Furthermore, I don't think it wants to be.  What SUPER 8 is is a movie that recalls all those great films of Gen-X youth, those children of 1982 who are now parents, and shares that experience and wonder with a new generation.  SUPER 8 is the ultimate YOU KNOW, FOR KIDS movie - a film that parents can talk about with their kids on the way home, and have the parents say, "If you loved SUPER 8, you'll lose your mind over GREMLINS, or E.T., or JAWS, or POLTERGEIST, or RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, or CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, or BACK TO THE FUTURE," and have a shared experience with their kids.  People seem to forget, because we have all these choices now, but Spielberg's staple was one of the few places providing this movie drug to the kids, other than the STAR WARS films.

You should all know the plot by now - a group of kids in 1979 are filming their own zombie film when a train crash nearly kills them and something escapes from one of the cars.  The military, led by Nelec (Noah Emmerich), moves in to find and capture the creature.  Joe Lamb (Joel Courtney) and his father Jackson Lamb (Kyle Chandler) try to repair their broken relationship amidst everything; Joe's mother died in an accident at the factory four months earlier, and Jackson is still trying to pick up the pieces.  As events escalate, Joe finds himself racing against time to save his friend Alice (Elle Fanning) and get to the truth of what is happening.

It's been written in various articles that Abrams originally came up with the coming-of-age story first, and then attached the monster movie to it.  There's a lot of places in the movie that do feel like an abrupt shift in tone, having characters behave differently than they've been established previously in the film.  And although the monster portion of SUPER 8 lacks focus, it still works, because all these events are shot from the perspective of the kids, and it becomes a grand adventure.  It does feel like Abrams needed to take a couple more drafts to iron out exactly what he wanted the alien to be - is it a monster, or is it misunderstood?  It's never exactly clear.  Abrams wanted to do something different than E.T. or ALIEN, so he made the creature a mix of both and that makes the alien's story not make a lot of logical sense in the light of day.  But the creature design is impressive, and the movie knows how to deliver the jolts and action.  Abrams has always been effective at that.

Abrams is also very effective with performance, and that's where SUPER 8 shines.  All the kids, without exception, are terrific in their roles, especially Courtney and Riley Griffiths, who plays Charles Kaznyk, the director of the Super 8 film and Joe's best friend.  Elle Fanning, who plays Alice, is also very good - she and Joe have a shared tragedy, and as their relationship deepens, it causes problems with their fathers.  Alice's father, Louis (Ron Eldard) may be indirectly responsible for Joe's mom's death, and that incident has broken Louis, and the two fathers want their children to not have any contact.  But as kids tend to do, Alice and Joe manage to find each other, and I found this part of the film especially poignant.  Although the monster story is flawed, the story of the kids and their parents is the main one, and that's done perfectly.

Lens flares?  Yeah, there's a few.  Honestly and personally, I didn't notice them too much.  They didn't distract from the film for me. I think Abrams, again, is trying for that Spielberg aesthetic, and much of the time it works.  Other than the creature design, which feels modern, the movie could have come straight out of the 1970s, even with the Altmanesque overlapping dialogue, which Spielberg's done quite a bit himself in his early films.  Just watch SUGARLAND EXPRESS, that's full of Altman-style dialogue.  SUPER 8 successfully evokes a certain time, and there were only a couple of moments that made me aware that it's a modern film.

What's the best thing about SUPER 8?  Well, I saw it with my daughter.  I've shown her many films over the years, and she's loved many of them, and some she's not taken to like I did in my youth.  But SUPER 8 absorbed her completely.  She jumped at all the best moments, laughed, and adored this movie.  I think SUPER 8 is a terrific movie in that way - it's an entry film into those movies we loved in the 1970s and 1980s, and as we were leaving I was talking with her about all these wonderful movies that she hadn't yet seen and she was eager to try them.  She hasn't seen JAWS yet because she doesn't do blood or gore very well, but after SUPER 8?  I think I can sell it.  If for nothing else, SUPER 8 will open kids up to an amazing new world in film, where not everything was based on a comic book, where ideas took flight as opposed to massive amounts of CGI, and true wonder held sway.  In that regard, SUPER 8 is a real family film that you get to take with you when you leave the theater, and share with your loved ones, and that's a real treasure.

Nordling, out.

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  • June 8, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I think this will be good

    by professor murder

    I can't wait

  • June 8, 2011, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Sunday Sunday Sunday

    by cesareo

    It's ON

  • June 8, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Oh, and Super 8 doesn't NEED to be as good as E.T.

    by professor murder

    E.T. is E.T. and I will not ever be comparing anything to that. It was a great movie that nothing can be compared to without actually having that movie be copying it. I don't think anyone would try to one up E.T. with a similar story/plot/movie. I have a feeling I'll take a totally WAY different experience from Super 8 than I did from E.T. E.T. seems more 'family' while Super 8 is looking to be more 'Stand by Me'ish. If that makes any sense. But who knows, because I haven't seen it yet.

  • June 8, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Happy to hear this, Nordling - thx!

    by Mennen

  • June 8, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Saw it Yesterday SPOLIER

    by Sluggolicious

    I think this film's Spielberg-esque quality is making the AICN nerds spaz out so badly that they've lost all objectivity. It's good, not great. It was really good - well acted, stylish and fast paced. It did have flaws (mainly with the creature's story arc) and all dramatic tension was deflated in the middle of the third act, so the conclusion is pretty boring to watch.

  • June 8, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST

    meant 'SPOILER'

    by Sluggolicious

  • June 8, 2011, noon CST

    Why no release in UK 'til August?

    by belasco_house

    Bit rude. And piracy-bait, surely

  • The Iron Giant begs to differ.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Tracking is terrible

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I smell a box office disappointment...

  • June 8, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    A Review I will not Read

    by mattforce7

    you can spoil us NO MORE. I want to see this film after knowing only vague references to inspirations and early teasers. BRING IT ON

  • June 8, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST

    I met JJ yesterday at e3

    by D o o d

    and he is such a down to earth, kind, geek of a person. He's a big Uncharted fan and wanted to see it with his son. Anyway, I told him that I was really looking forward to seeing Super 8 and he couldn't have been more humble. In my books, I'm gonna like the movie cause I like him!

  • June 8, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    I can't see this doing huge numbers.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    But, again, it could be something with "legs." Besides, didn't it have a budget of "only" $50 million? It should clear that in the U.S. alone within two weeks.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    I could never see a frame of E.T. again for as long as i live

    by ultragoregrind

    ...and die a happy man. As a child, my family went to visit an aunt in the south west who was getting married. The entire week, the adults idea of keeping the kids entertained? By playing the recently re-released E.T. (on vhs!) pretty much on loop the whole time.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    JJ's Secrecy

    by Tank Williams

    This film looks fantastic. Everything I have seen and heard about Super 8 has been, great. I am truly concerned with the reports I have been hearing in regards to this movie tanking at the box office. If JJ has confidence in his work, than why keep things so under wraps? He may have just made a huge career mistake. Oh well....As long as either this or Xmen scores this weekend I will be happy! And piss off haters!

  • June 8, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Uuuuuhhhh...the poster just changed

    by professor murder

    Anyone else notice that?

  • June 8, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST

    WHOA! Where'd that poster come from?

    by D.Vader

    Never seen that before. It LOOKS like Drew Struzan, or someone aping him. I'm surprised we haven't heard of it before?

  • June 8, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST

    I changed the poster.

    by Nordling

    That's a new poster, and I really liked the Struzan style, so I switched it out.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Awesome D o o d!

    by D.Vader

    That's always good to hear, when filmmakers and celebrities can be down to earth, humble, and appreciative of fans. Glad to hear it.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    I like it too

    by professor murder

    I generally like all 'painted' style posters. It shows that care and EFFORT were actually put into making them. cough cough 'fast five' cough

  • June 8, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Ah yes, a LOST reference on the poster too

    by D.Vader

    Nice work.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    So, IS it Struzan?

    by D.Vader

    When's the last time we had a poster from him? For The Mist?

  • June 8, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Hope this film is good

    by Fritzlorrerains

    Fingers crossed. Too bad we can't trust AICN with their reviews. Never know when they are paid or returning favors.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    John Williams should have scored this

    by Hank Berlo

    And I'm not sure if he did or not actually. But he should have, just to capture the vibe completely. And Nordling, how old is your daughter, maybe mine will go with me too....

  • June 8, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    The LOST flyer

    by professor murder

    Looks like there's a missing Cloverfield Monster. Definitely not a picture of a dog or cat, heheh.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    AICN reviewers are never paid or told to favor

    by professor murder

    ....unless sly stallone is involved, haha ..but hey, I like the guys revival too :-)

  • June 8, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    geeks trying to geekify their kids

    by Spandau Belly

    I've have several friends have this backfire. They really thought they were going to be the ultimate cool parent, but then their kids reject them just like they did to their parents. I have one buddy who is obsessed with Spiderman and his kid just will never care about Spiderman no matter how much my buddy tries to shove it on him. The son just likes typical little boy things like dinosaurs and outter space. He's not into comic book superheroes and the seriousness with which my buddy expresses disappointment in his son because of this is hilarious. My sister tried to show some kids that David Bowie movie LABRYNTH and the kids all laughed at it and called it dated and she threw a fit at them. I wished I could've been there.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Do we HAVE to understand the monster's motivation?

    by Bald Evil

    E.T. was about E.T: the most cuddly, sympathetic alien ever. Super 8 sounds like it's more about the kids and their story. The creature (I assume it's an alien, but perhaps not) is the catalyst for the story, but from what I've heard, it's not the center of the story. Its motivations don't need to be understood. Does it being misunderstood, or a genuine threat to mankind, change the course of the story in any way? If not, it's just as well if it remains a mystery. If the story suffers for lack of clarity about the creature, then maybe it should've been polished more. I'll decide for myself when the movie comes out.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    John Williams is and always has been great

    by professor murder

    But after Dark Knight and Inception, Hans Zimmer has the scoresheet on lock down. Those musical productions were absolutely great!

  • June 8, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    A word about Michael Giacchino's score

    by Nordling

    Meant to add this, but I didn't. His score is really good, very reminiscent of Williams' work with Spielberg as well.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    bald evil

    by Nordling

    The creature's motivation is very clear. It just doesn't gel with some of the creature's actions. But its motivation is very explicitly spelled out.

  • June 8, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Struzan poster? I've only seen the "sideways landscape" poster

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    ??

  • June 8, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST

    I try to geekify my cousins

    by D.Vader

    And its worked with varying successes. I showed them the animated Hobbit when they were younger, The Dark Crystal years ago, Monster Squad last year, and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom when they were younger (maybe a bit much with the heart-pulling scene). I made them watch all the Indy Jones flicks before Crystal Skull came out. My cousin who has Aspergers had NO interest in it at all. I told him I'd make a deal with him- all he had to do was sit in the room with us and watch the opening scene. Then he was free to go back to his room and play LEGOs. The opening scene in the Temple, he's like "Can I go now?", and I say "No, not until the end of the entire opening sequence, the whole thing." Well, the ball comes down, Indy gets in the plane and flies away, and I turn to him and say "Ok the opening is over, you can go back upstairs now." He sat there was a look on his face and said "Well, I can watch a bit more." And that's how I got him sucked in. Now he plays Indiana Jones LEGO (the video game). I did the same thing to him with Doctor Who years ago by making him watch YouTube videos of the Dalek invasion of Earth. I semi-explained to him what they were, and for some reason he latched on to it. Now he watches the Doctor all the time. He always asks me if I've seen the latest episode, but I never finished last season (I only saw the premiere), so he's a bigger Doctor geek than me now probably. The older brother is a total sports nut, but he's very open to my geek movies and genre flicks too.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    I just feel like E.T. is the third person in this marriage!

    by spacehog

    The way Nordling's wife tries to skip past "E.T." whenever it's on is for some reason making me guffaw at my desk. I'm just picturing Nordling and his daughter bonding over the film in their darkened living room while his wife, unseen, hovers in the doorway, ominously backlit, arms crossed, silently seething at this wedge being driven into the heart of her family.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    "Struzan-inspired"? So, um, who designed that poster?

    by Royston Lodge

    If it wasn't Drew Struzan, I'd like to know who it was.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    When I met my wife

    by professor murder

    She had a 2 year old boy and since she was a single mom, even though the boy was very young, he still had no MAN in the house to show him what BOYS stuff is. I turned him onto Batman right away and the superhero world expanded month after month. He has all of the costumes to wear(he's now 5) and he still loves it all like day one. The movie thing though... There are spiderman movies, batman movies, xmen movies etc.. But being young still, sitting through a movie not directed at kids is tough for him. He knows it's spiderman, but there's so much talking and story. Sure, he'll watch 500 hours straight of Batman:Brave and the Bold, Super Hero Squad, or The Avengers:Earths Mightiest Heroes cartoons, but the live action still is going to take some growing up and warming up to. I take pride knowing I opened his eyes to stuff that real boys love(even though I might have done it too young) because my wife's best friend was also a single mom with the same age boy(and still is single) and her boy loves Thomas the Tank Engine, Lightning McQueen from Cars, and Dora. HAHA! Thank GOD my kid isn't on that fence!

  • June 8, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST

    The poster doesn't have the Struzan sketchiness to it...

    by alienindisguise

    and it's also better than the other posters for the film.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Poster is a Struzan piece

    by Hank Berlo

    It's not inspired by him, it is by him.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    darthcuban

    by Nordling

    Are you sure? I'll update if it is, but the few places I saw it in never clarified.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Darth Cuban

    by Hank Berlo

    Actually, I can't say for certain, no. Does it have the classic DREW signature anywhere on it? Perhaps not... But damn, great homage to Drew then.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Darth above post

    by professor murder

    Does that show Darth Cuban talking to himself? haha

  • June 8, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Well, the filename is:

    by professor murder

    superstru.jpg so whoever saved the file thinks it's struzan

  • June 8, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Murder

    by Hank Berlo

    It shows that I didn't put a subject on the subject line. Stupid me.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    by Hank Berlo

    Or does it?

  • June 8, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Professor Murder

    by Nordling

    That's just what I titled it in my file so I could find it easier.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST

    SUPER 8: starring a BIG FRIGGIN' LENSE FLARE!

    by YackBacker

    Abrams, please stop the insanity. I'm getting migraines. I'm flashing back to my own birth!

  • June 8, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    No Drew signature on poster

    by Hank Berlo

    Might be a clue that it isn't a Drew poster. if my memory serves correctly, his signature is usually visible on his posters.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    I checked out Drews site and others

    by professor murder

    No mention of Super 8 on any of his work lists. This site was the first to SAY IT IS him: http://twitchfilm.com/news/2011/06/drew-struzan-does-super-8.php The other site's I run across with the poster don't confirm it, so I still don't know for sure.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Saw it last night and loved it.

    by venvariants

    Great preview last night in Seattle, and the audience was fabulous. People jumped and screamed at all the right bits. Very close to home for someone who was from that era. Great acting - I was surprised how much the human story pulls you in..! It's a breath of fresh air from all of the superhero crap shoved down our throats for the past few years, that's for sure. There's some great depth here. The train wreck is phenomenal and one of a kind. I was just grinning from ear to ear the whole movie.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    So is it Struzan or not?

    by Jack Burton

    It doesn't have the facial detail and shadowing that his work tends to have. Seems more like a knock off but the elements are certainly all there.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST

    And IMDB confirms it's NOT

    by professor murder

    It's a fanmade poster: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835405/news

  • June 8, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Fan made?

    by theswillmerchant

    Wow, someone hire that person.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST

    The likeness of Kyle Chandler is off

    by D.Vader

    That was my first clue this wasn't a Drew Struzan piece. He's better than that. Also: not enough lens flares.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the review...

    by bubcus

    ... I am looking forward to this film.

  • June 8, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Poster's not bad...

    by Ahastings

    ...the guy's no Struzan, but it's not bad...

  • June 8, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Buncha' dingleberries...

    by Polo Chavez

    It's sad a lot of you male-organ players can't differentiate Struzan's work with an imitator's. Buy Struzan's book, and compare it to what you see here. You'll notice the fucking subtleties and nuances that make his work unique.

  • While perhaps not technically a remake, "Super 8" has all the marketing sensibilities of that wretched cinematic trend. I'm sorry, but no one who has bitched in the past about studios just churning out modern remakes of 80s films has any room to say "Super 8" is original or somehow, substantively different from say, that "Nightmare on Elm Street" remake, or the oft-maligned "Halloween" remakes.

  • June 8, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    d.vader

    by D o o d

    seriously mate, he was very humble and very nice. Even with all his people around him, he was very welcoming!

  • June 8, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Why not hire Struzan?

    by professor murder

    Because he is retired i believe.

  • June 8, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Cop out review...

    by TopHat

    ...I'm sick of the "The kid likes it" reviews. "My son LOVED IT" "My niece adored the movie!" Children are not the best measuring stick for a movie. I mean, do you really expect a child to walk out of a theater with their parents, look up at them, and say "Gee Mom/Dad, I really didn't enjoy going to the movies with you today." Lets not forget what "going to the movies" really is to a child: An excuse to consistently eat popcorn and candy for two hours. Your kid loved it? They also love picking their nose and playing in cardboard boxes. The biggest problem I have with this idea of film reviewing is the belief that its somehow for the kids. Its not. Its for the parents and grown-ups who want to someday have kids. Notice how in every review the reviewer makes sure to include their own favorite movies as children and then relate them to the movie they're reviewing. Then they "speak" for the child, describing their reactions. Confirming their own feelings and reactions, not just to the movie they're actually reviewing, but to the other childhood favorites they've been romanticizing. They've figuratively and literally made the child have the same opinions and feelings as them. See? They've been right all along. Its been about confirming their own prejudices, NOT opening up a new and different world for their/the kids. So, kids don't get their own movies. They get their parents' movies. And cheap knock-offs at that, because the parent/grown-up cares more about confirming their own childhood more than letting their/the kids have their own. Which indirectly and directly make all the movies released, specifically children's movies, pale "homages" and safe pop-culture reference filled commercials for their parents. Obey your parents children. Do what they say. Feel what they feel. AVENGE THEM

  • June 8, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Motivation

    by Bald Evil

    Hmm... well, I'm curious to see the movie, regardless. And any creature design by Neville Page is sure to be memorable. I hope Guillermo del Toro borrows Page if/when it comes time to design critters for "Mountains of Madness".

  • June 8, 2011, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Asimovlives....NO MORE.

    by DangerDave

    where is his piss and vinagar when you expect it? I am not at all excited about this, looks TOO MOOCH (hehe) like JJ is riffing on Spielberg. And ever review says that very thing. Torrent for me.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    dangerdave, just this little thing and i'm off:

    by AsimovLives

    Funny that ALL THE POSTERS for this movie have LENS FLARES! This has to be a deliberate joke.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:23 p.m. CST

    "J.J. Abrams' SUPER 8 wears its influences proudly."

    by AsimovLives

    And in any other movie AICN would scream "fucking rip off" and would condemn the director to eternal damnation. But if it's JJ Abrams, then it's ok and it's genious. So, there is not going on a cult of personality about JJ Abrams in this site at all! No seereee!! Not at all!!

  • June 8, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    This Poster shows how good Struzan was/is

    by RandySavage

    It's a decent homage... but doesn't approach the skill-level of the master.

  • And it's a pity that Abrams felt the need to do that. Why didn't he just stick to the story of the kids living in the late's 70s? Why couldn't he just had made a piece of nostalgia story about a bunch of kids who would had been his age at the time? Why couldn't it REALLY be STAND BY ME, with a few stylistic visials based on Spielberg's 70s work? The mosnter story, for me, looks like a clutch. Abrams must have felt he couldn't deliver a simple dramatic story and needed some big ass action or SFX show to make a 3rd act. I think he sacrificed what could be a really good coming of age story set in his own nostalgic past of late 70s and put monsters and action shit in it so it could be more "broad" and make the tonnes of bucks he must think is the sole reason for his career. Again Abrams fails to understand the potential for his own movies' stories. Despiste all his bravado and payed advertizement that hails him as a genious and the new big talent savior of modern cinema, in fact Abrams must be supremely insecure.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Struzan retired

    by Roger Moon

    after years and years of getting yanked around by Hollywood assholes you can't blame him

  • June 8, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Lurking around Asi

    by DangerDave

    I knew that I could get you out of your corner. GOOD GOOD LET THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU

  • June 8, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    I think there's something wrong with you, asimovlives.

    by Nordling

    Seriously. Raymond Babbitt didn't fixate on People's Court the way you do on Abrams. Clams make pearls out of the grains of sand that irritate them. You make pointless talkbacks, I suppose. I've seen Asperger sufferers who live a less patterned life than you do. If it's a schtick, it ceased being funny about five minutes after you started. If it's not, then you need a hobby. Or, you know, you can fixate on the things you enjoy instead of this, if it makes you so miserable. I'm not sure exactly why I'm engaging with you, except to suggest there's a plethora of wonderful medications that can make the lens flares in your life stop. Finally, there's no Abrams cult. I liked STAR TREK and thought MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 3 was just there. The guy started work in Hollywood writing REGARDING HENRY, a pretty stupid movie in my opinion, but there's always room for improvement, and I think Abrams has done so.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Nord, Now you are going to get it

    by DangerDave

    TBers have been sayin the same shit to him for YEARS. It is like talking to a stone.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    spandau belly

    by AsimovLives

    Your story about the geek parents is hysterical. Some kids will inheret the tastes of their parent,s others will not. And nobody can predict which will be. And if that's during their children year,s imagine when the kids reach teenage and start rebelling against all that their parents stand for? As the parents didn't liked to have other people's tastes shove to them when they were younger, nor will their kids now suffer that as well.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Sorry...

    by aleph_null

    but this looks to be a major POS, the more I see the less I want to, it's just hack-work, why is it impossible for today's filmmaker's to create a "classic" WITH TODAY'S AESTHETICS? This site's writers are disgustingly earnest shills.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST

    I successfully geekified my kid

    by Lone Fox

    Some of you just aren't trying hard enough.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    nordling

    by AsimovLives

    It's no stitch. I'm even almost insulted at the notion. No, it's genuine. I truly hate the movie, and i truly hate the way Abrams has swain on today's geekry and AICN in particular. As Michael Bay once did, now does Abrams, but ona much larger scale. And the worst part of it? It makes absolutly no bloody sense at all. How an at best banal and mediocre director caught your imagination like this is the kind of stuff that science will take centuries to figure out. My feelings for this matter are very genuine and real. Add to that a profound sense of sadness to it too. And thanks for the concern, friend.

  • There is a cult of personality about Abrams going on at AICN, regardless of your claims to the contrary. All the hallmarks are there.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:58 p.m. CST

    I loved the documentary about Struzan in THE MYST DVD.

    by AsimovLives

    That doc gave me a name and a face to those iconic posters that were so familiar to me as a young lad when i went to the movies. anmd of those, none for me is more precious then Blade Runner's. The older Blade Runner poster, is so iconic it's impossible for me now to dissociate the two. When i think of one, i think of the other. An artist indeed.

  • June 8, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST

    I never read the SUPERMAN script.

    by Nordling

    I better get on that so I can receive my programming. It was Abrams behind the grassy knoll, you know. The truth is out there, asimovlives. It's up to YOU to find it. You need to hit the bars in Dallas and put out some feelers. I'm sure someone will talk.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:11 p.m. CST

    I gotta go with 'Struzan-inspired'.

    by digitalcos

    The awkward composition, the questionable perspective choices with the main characters (having the father the smallest, yet the closest?) the giant girl's (?) hand. The weird melding of the kids with the camera, and the Main Street element. Don't get me wrong. It's a nice lookin' poster, but I doubt it's a Struzan. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Also...

    by digitalcos

    He's said he's retired from movie posters. Sure, folks come outta retirement all the time, I'm jus' sayin' s'all.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Nordling

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Hey man. Go easy on Asi. He's a witty, complex guy who happens to hate the ever-loving shit out of sloppy, worthless films. I don't always agree with him (hell, I have often vehemently disagreed with him), but I respect the fuck out of him and his convictions. Seriously, I wish everyone here were as straightforward and passionate about good film-making. You wanna drive over Asi, Nordling? Well... you're gonna need to drive over THE CHOPPAH first.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST

    I think Asi is big enough to fight his own battles CHOP

    by Continentalop

  • That you don't really care what anyone says, and you don't have the time or patience to be riled up about it. I think that's a good policy, friendo. Your passion serves you best when you're writing your reviews.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:33 p.m. CST

    It's not like it's a fair fight, o lover of flightless birds.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Give Asi the power of the Banhammer, and then we're talking. Otherwise, CHOP off.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE

    by FeralAngel

    You guys trying to "geekify" your kids oughta lay off. I can just see it: years from now, when those kids are grown, they'll see a clip from Full Metal Alchemist and think: "This came out when I was a kid? How did I miss it?" and then they'll remember, "Oh yeah, my dad made me watch the fucking Muppets instead."

  • June 8, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    NO. This movie does not deserve the STRUZEN treatment!!!

    by doom master

    Not yet it don't. Eenough people have not seen it yet to determine this movie's fate in cinema history. I, for one, am not going to make it out to be like Avatar, which got totaly overblown to the point where nobody cares anymore. And Nordling, saying Giacchino's score is similar to Williams' work is not saying much - Giacchino is an unabashed Williams fan to the point of mimicry grandiosity. He's been riffing Williams since he did game scores for Medal of Honor. Of course, since Williams seems to be retired ever since Indy 4 can't say much about his work now...Only to say that it looks like Giacchino is going to become the John Williams successor, whether the world likes it or not. I for one, don't. Nobody can match or beat Williams. Nobody. This movie doesn't deserve anything yet.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Asi doesn't need the power of the Banhammer

    by Continentalop

    He has driven more people off these tbs than any mod ever has through sure force of will. And love the use of your name as a catch phrase. Haven't heard anything that clever since Vincent Price was Egghead. It was Eggcellent.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Of course, Asi and I weren't always friends...

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Exhibit A: http://tinyurl.com/3zx86fc

  • June 8, 2011, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Don't make me destroy you, 'lop.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • June 8, 2011, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Hey, now your Drago

    by Continentalop

    Who else can you impersonate, I mean besides DANNYGLOVER_DICKBLOOD?

  • June 8, 2011, 4:42 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry Chop

    by Continentalop

    That was out of line. But your the one who made fun of the Penguin.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST

    CHOPPAH is no imitation.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    CHOPPAH is purely 100% original. DAMN! WHY ISN'T PENGUIN IN THE NEW NOLAN BATMAN MOVIE??????????? Oh, sorry ....

  • June 8, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Not riled up at all.

    by Nordling

    I'm just not going to let anyone here talk about how we're on some kind of take when it comes to Abrams movies. If that Abrams check is coming, I sure could use it - light bills are going to be insane this summer. My reviews are my assessment of what I saw. That's it. It's not any weird cult, it's not any "take." I don't care how passionate he is - the only motive I have when I write my review is to honestly let people know what I thought of the film.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:49 p.m. CST

    No one is questioning your integrity, Nordling.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Well, no one but Asi, that is. THAT SAID ... CHOPPAH believes you, and that's all that matters.

  • It's hard out there for a Nord.

  • He now goes by the name of william_faulkner.

  • June 8, 2011, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Nordling

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    You should get TXU or green mountain.

  • June 8, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST

    good to see ET get some props

    by ufoclub1977

    amazing fairy tale movie that was the only time in my life I've seen an entire audience get up and applaud in an overfilled huge theater. When the bikes all took off. Saw it and Poltergeist over and over in '82 as kid.

  • He's taking issue with Asi accusing him of being on Abrams' "take."

  • June 8, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST

    I HATE E.T....

    by Spudwick30

    Will I still enjoy this?

  • June 8, 2011, 5:46 p.m. CST

    This poster is terrible

    by Mephisto the Great

    As I mentioned in another post, it has the distorted exaggeration you see from artwork in the old Mad Magazines and Cracked. Plus, Drew's work is bright, regardless of the genre. This is so darn dark and drab. My $0.02. Blargh.

  • June 8, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST

    spudwick30 hates E.T.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    He also hates babies, sunny days and orgasms.

  • June 8, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Spudwick

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    no you will not. Your constipated in your fucking soul.

  • June 8, 2011, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Not Drew

    by Mephisto the Great

    Probbaly old news, but I've been reading online this poster is not Drew's but fan made. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni11493012/

  • but i am pretty sure his movie will be great.

  • June 8, 2011, 5:58 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "Is SUPER 8 as good as E.T.? No way in hell. Furthermore, I don't think it wants to be." Thanks Nord. That's the Blu Ray cover quote taken care of. I wonder if AsimovLives would like to comment on the 10th anniversary nu-Trek release?

  • June 8, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Didn't like Abrams before

    by zach hill

    Star Trek, M:I, Lost.. blah. This, though... this is something I'll revisit and enjoy many times. Best movie of the summer so far.

  • June 8, 2011, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Sounds good. Can't wait.

    by Flip63Hole

    If it sucks, do we say J.J. fondled our childhood in an uncomfortable manner?

  • June 8, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Muppets>>>>Full Metal Alchemist

    by kidicarus

    Kermit FTW.

  • June 8, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    nordling

    by AsimovLives

    You can do better then the cheap jabs of your lattest post. It's one of the things that saddens me the most about all of the Abrams fans.

  • June 8, 2011, 6:49 p.m. CST

    the_choppah

    by AsimovLives

    Our friendship was forged on the strongest and hottest of fires. From our inicial animosity was bron a great respect for a worthy adversary that became a friendship i treasure like few others. If somebody here deserves and earnes my great respect, it's the_choppah. He chopped and won. Behold and heed his example. The fact the _choppah loves VALHALLA RISING helped a hell of a lot. That movie for me works as a great litmus test for a lot of things about other people.

  • June 8, 2011, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Nordling, do you live in Antartica?

    by AsimovLives

    Because at this time in the eyar, it's perpectual night in antartica, and you are complaining about the light bills, and really, unless you are living in long nights right now... i mean, you are texan as well, aren't you? Or is it the air conditioning that is ruining your electrical bills? I heard that Texas can be a hell at summer. I say there is a cult of personality about Abrams at AICN because, frankly, there is no other logical explanation for why AICN is so one voice about Abrams. When i see a review for a movie like INCEPTION where you guys show different opinions, one being very favourable, one more middle road and one that was very clear in thinking the movie is not all that cracked out to be, it is to be expected as such. Even for a great movie, it's expected to be a dissonante voice. That's normal, that's expected, that's how it is. Business as usual But when, in everything that Abrams makes, all you guys at AICN say the same thing and are of one voice in what is utter praise of the dude and the movie he makes, who diminish and handwave all the problems his movies have to the point of not dismissing it entirely, then how can one expect that everything is right as rain and everything is right? It's byzarre. It's weird. It's damn peculiar. It's not business as usual. I'm sorry, friend, but i find that very, very weird.

  • June 8, 2011, 7:02 p.m. CST

    it's not going to do big numbers

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    tracking is very low. Started in low 30's, now it's high 20's opening weekend. Lol it's gonna be a flop

  • June 8, 2011, 7:15 p.m. CST

    ET was the first movie made by Spielberg i saw in a theater.

    by AsimovLives

    Born in 1971, i was too young to have had seen some of his classics in the theater, even consideringthe fact that at the time, movies took about 2 years to go from their originla release in USA to finally reach Portugal. Things progressed far slower back then. But evne with that, it was only in about 1983, i think, that i finally saw a Spielberg movie in a theater. Funny thing is, i already knew who Spielberg was. Or rather, his reputation. and you guys migth find this funny, but what i knew of spielberg then was him as a maker of horror movies. How so? Easy: JAWS reputation was, of course, universal and everywhere. The movie that put Spielberg on teh map everywhere. What little i knew of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, from the trailers, made it look like a scary movie. What my freidns told me of the stuff that happene din Raiders, and for soem reason they focused only on the scarier parts likethe snake pit and ark going berserk on the nazis and the melting heads, it all sounded like Spielberg was a guy in the bunsiness of making horror movies. And then i saw SOMETHING DEVIL on TV. You guys migth laugh at me, but i tell you, if you were a young kid then, at the time and age, and if you saw SOMETHING DEVIL, i tell you, that movie was pure terror! The stuff ot make you piss your pants in pure terror and of sleepless nights. The movie scared the shit out of me. On a rare occasion whene my mother actually bothered to go to the movies, he took me and my kid brother to see it. And the first part of the movie, until ET is revealed, does play a bit like an horror movie. Maybe influences from that original script which later became the basis for both CLOSE ENCOUNTERS and ET. but the first part of Et for me, in that first viewing, was like a horror movie. And then it became this story about a kid my age meeting a cool little alien. Sure, like all kids back then, the movie became one of my top favorite. And then a friend of mine borrow me his LP of ET's score, and that was my introduction to film score, and the start of a love that perdures to this day. When ET had a rerun two years later, i couldn't wait to rewatch it. ET was my favorite movie, and Spielberg my favorite director. Then Blade Runner happend and everything changed. Funny thing is, despite my then love for ET, it was BLADE RUNNER with it's more adult themes and sophistication that really made me a hardcore movie geek. Until then, i was a guy who rally liked to go to the mvoies. With BR i started loving, really loving cinema. Which is a different thing. Nowdays, i'm not inlove with ET anymore. I haven't rewatched it for 10 years already, and i have no intentions of doing it anytime soon. Never bought the DVD, nor i care too. I still espect the movie, but i don't love it anymore. I think i grew tired of it. There's movies i love since my early teens or childghood years i never grew tired of, but ET i have. ET is not the movie i use as an example of what's great about Spielberg anymore. There's other movies which do that for me so much better. Even Sugarland Express. I don't use ET to parade my geek card. I don't need to. Other movies do that so much better for me.

  • June 8, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    +1 Sorry Mr Artist

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Not a very good poster

  • June 8, 2011, 7:18 p.m. CST

    noidling1

    by AsimovLives

    Thus, my hypothesis of the cult of personality that's going on about Abrams, and yes, not just on AICN. I have seen this going on before for other hacks like him, namely, how everybody was such a big ass groupie of Michael Bay back in the late 90s, geeks and critics alike. always finding excuses to over-sight the flaws and only concentrate on the peerceived qualities and strenghs. It was so cool to be a Bay groupie back then. And now, it's Abrams. Who will be next, Roberto Orci?

  • June 8, 2011, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Abrams Trek 10th Year Aniversary Blu-Ray. Cover quote:

    by AsimovLives

    "Fucking horrible piece of shit" AsimovLives, anonymous AICN talkbacker.

  • June 8, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Re: The Poster Is Fake

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Er ... you guys here at AICN do realize it's been confirmed for a while now that this poster is a fan-made hoax, right? Go to Moviefone's Web site. Yeah. Moviefone. You guys were scooped by Moviefone. It's a hell of a fan, granted, but it ain't real. Maybe one of you guys with Abrahms's or Spielberg's number on their iPhones wanna call 'em up and confirm it from the source, if you don't believe me (or Moviefone)?

  • June 8, 2011, 7:47 p.m. CST

    I mostly agree with Nordling...

    by Kevinicus

    I usually think his reviews are pretty terrible and he makes terrible excuses or poor reasoning for his reasons to like or dislike a film. However, his review is pretty spot on this time. With the possible exception of the monster design which I wasn't all that impressed with. I'd probably like it more too if the theater I saw a screening at didn't have shitty acoustics. Kids = good. Mystery/Discovery elements = good story of the kids and the fathers = good Monster = meh.

  • June 8, 2011, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Spoiler Alert!!!

    by bohdi71

    Do you AICN guys even know how to write a spoiler free review....is it that hard?

  • Oh wait sorry that was E.T.

  • June 8, 2011, 8:10 p.m. CST

    MAC AND ME was better than E.T.

    by Tim

    According to Coca Cola, McDonald's, and every other corporate turd that poor imitation. haha.

  • Come on. Just a cursory glance tells you it was done by a children's book illustrator.

  • June 8, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST

    I'M NOT FEELING THIS MOVIE AT ALL

    by BSB

    My plate's already full for the next few weekends. GL, Cap, Warrior and maybe the odd indy that catches my eye. Love the Beard, but an homage is not good enough a sell for me.

  • June 8, 2011, 8:48 p.m. CST

    WOOT

    by MoffatBabies

    I see it tomorrow!!

  • June 8, 2011, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Hi all, I saw this last night in New Zealand....

    by dacanesta

    ....and im feeling like an alien myself because not only did I think it wasnt very good, I thought it was awful. Truly awful. I caught it just after seeing Source Code a couple of hours earlier and half way through Super 8, when I realised it really didnt know what it was and was seeming like an utterly pointless exercise, I started trying to piece together more of the pieces that I hadnt fully grasped yet from Source Code, ie. I watched that again in my head! I know people can be negative on here for the sake of it but honestly.....it actually made me angry, mainly because it THINKS its good but is far from it. The score? That is achingly dramatic at times when you just dont feel the drama, in other words what you are seeing is slightly cringeworthy but the score is shouting 'LOOK! LOOK AT THAT! ISNT THAT DRAMATIC AND SAD!'. My friend behind me said 'if I was watching that at home I'd have turned it off'. Best summary ever. And I have a point to raise! The kids are great actors, but I felt something when watching last night: good acting doesnt = charisma. Im no expert (you dont say!) but Drew Barrymore isnt particularly a good actress in ET is she? What she does though is OOZE charisma. I didnt feel it with these kids. Cheers all!

  • June 8, 2011, 9:16 p.m. CST

    You know what I liken it to? (if you care!)

    by dacanesta

    a slasher film. I like slasher films. Coz theyre cheap and silly and know it. This doesnt! I liken it to them because its an hour (plus) of passing time til the hero can run around being chased at the end, and before that there are a few 'kills' to keep you going etc. Anyone agree or am i still a silly sausage?

  • June 8, 2011, 9:30 p.m. CST

    HERCRADIO

    by BSB

    Of course I read it. I just wanted to jump aboard the Correct Nordling bandwagon. Otherwise I got nothing to say ...

  • June 8, 2011, 9:56 p.m. CST

    how old's your daughter, Nordling?

    by oisin5199

    Mine's 6, but I don't think she's ready for this. But I'm looking forward to showing her my classics.

  • June 8, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST

    As a father of a seven year old Spielbergian...I gotta say...

    by wacko3205

    Fantastic review Nordling!! Totally assuaged my fears of Super 8 actually being a train wreck. My kid loves Jaws, Goonies, Close Encounters, Gremlins, Minority Report, & all of the above...can't wait to see this. She & I have watched every snippet, trailer, interview, & 60 second spot on this one & have been anxiously awaiting it since the first train wreck all those months ago!!! My wife hates me over Super 8...I've read her every review for Super 8 & forced her to watch the very same fanboyish snippets, trailers, interviews, & 60 second spots...but F'it in the A...its payback for all those years of Sara Jessica Parker & that travesty of a goTdam sequel!!! I mean really...

  • June 8, 2011, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Struzan would never do anything that shitty

    by BoRock_A_Boomer

    Some make it, and most do not.

  • June 8, 2011, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Again, when was Michael Bay ever a critical darling?

    by imagin78

  • June 9, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Blood on the ceiling this summer

    by SmokingRobot

    There are just SO FUCKING MANY BIG MOVIES COMING OUT. No way they can all make a ton of money. Thor, X-Men, Super-8, Captain America, Green Lantern, Transformers. And that's all in about six weeks. This is a crazy way to run a movie business.

  • June 9, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Poster

    by Ganzeric

    That Super8 poster is so retro-killer. www.dailybullseye.com

  • June 9, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Just let the kids decide about Full Metal vs. Felt

    by FeralAngel

    Don't force your '70's crap on them and make them prove their love to you by liking it. That's asinine. And in the case of wrong-sounding Muppets, that's child abuse.

  • June 9, 2011, 12:49 a.m. CST

    You buncha idiots go on about photoshop posters

    by white_vader

    Yet that one has EXACTLY the same shitty composition problems and terrible negative space. Not anchored either. JUST LIKE all those "photoshop abominations" you guys whine about. This proves that it has nothing to do with photoshop. Painted stuff can be lousy too. And that you guys even need to see a Struzan signature makes me facepalm. If that is Struzan I'll eat my hat. And it's a big fuckin' hat.

  • June 9, 2011, 12:52 a.m. CST

    And yeah, the kids are great in this.

    by white_vader

    True.

  • June 9, 2011, 1:44 a.m. CST

    sorry

    by CT1

    word on the street is Quint is the new Nordling. Frank Oz involved.

  • June 9, 2011, 2:04 a.m. CST

    imagin78

    by AsimovLives

    I was there when people were furiously masturbating at Mickey Bay when THe Rock came out, and even piling excuses for "TEH FUNZ" they had, like as if they got a cold, for the stupid abortion of a shit movie that is Armageddon. Even when the negative reviews were notorious for their ferocity,the majority was people "hey it's jsut teh funz, get over it, have fun and forget your brain at the door" type of stupid appologetic bullshit. Even from the critics. Remember, Harry cried when he watched Armageddon.

  • June 9, 2011, 2:09 a.m. CST

    bohdi71

    by AsimovLives

    As long the review as a spoiler alert, i have no problem. Becasue you were warned, so you entered on your own volition. You will only have yourself to blame. Some reviews need to have spoilers. The reviews which are really a critcism (positive or negative) do need to adress such things as twists and the ending of the movies. Because as so often is the case, an ending can make or break a movie. How often has been the case of a great ending that elevates a movie that so far had looked to you kind aok but nothing much? And thenwith a second viewing you see "shit, this is really great"? And how oftern a movie you were really enjoying gets a stupid terrible ending that ymake you feel nothing but frustration afterwards and a desire to never repeat the experience? am reivew that addresses such endings can help adress zas a whole the movie and help us appreciate it as it is. My point? As long the reivewer rpeviously warned that there will be spoilers, the problemis no longer his but of who chose to read anyway.

  • June 9, 2011, 2:10 a.m. CST

    smokingrobot

    by AsimovLives

    With some luc it will be Trashfuckmers 3 who will fail miserably at the box office and die the ignomious death that every Bay movie deserves but rarely gets.

  • June 9, 2011, 2:41 a.m. CST

    mugato5150

    by AsimovLives

    It was not so much so much being sheltered as a case that in those days there was a terrible economic recession going on, and even though both my parents had steady incomes, it was still low pay, and such things as going to the movies was seen as luxeries one could do without. So, my moviegoing experience until my early teenhood was to watch the movies on the telly. That informed my first exposure to the movies, an was my first step into movie geekdom. So much so, that the first SW movie i ever saw was THE RETURN OF THE JEDI in a rerun. I only got to watch the first SW movie many years later on VHS, and by then i had already seen THX 1138 and AMERICAN GRAFFITHI. This my later exposure to SW is probably one of the great reasons why, even though i like the saga, i'm don't hold it up as an example of cinematic perfection and the very thing that crosses my mind when soembody says "filmed SF". That honour goes to Blade Runner or 2001 or even George Lucas' own THX 1138. Believe it or not, but from Ungle George it was THX 1138 that blew my mind, not any of the SW movies. I know this makes me for an unusual movie geek.

  • June 9, 2011, 2:41 a.m. CST

    i mean to say Uncle George. Damn typo.

    by AsimovLives

  • June 9, 2011, 2:45 a.m. CST

    The poster above does little Elle Fanning no favours at all.

    by AsimovLives

    Looking at Super 8's trailer you realise that she is a pretty young lady. The poster above makes her look like she's ET's sister. ET's own sister!

  • June 9, 2011, 2:46 a.m. CST

    dacanesta

    by AsimovLives

    Yours might be the most honest, problably the only honest review i have read so far. I suspect the movie is as you say it is. It's thw wwriting on the wall, and from who wrote and directed it, that makes me thing the movie is far less then what the enthusiasm is all about. Well, as they say, seeing is believing, but frankly, your words strike far more honest and to the point to me. And sourse Code is really good. Duncan Jones is the real talent, not that Abrams fella.

  • June 9, 2011, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Haven't seen the previous films in the franchise.

    by David Cloverfield

    Can it be understood without seeing Super 1 2 3 4 5 6 or 7?

  • June 9, 2011, 6:53 a.m. CST

    david cloverfield, probably you can. I think it's a reboot.

    by AsimovLives

  • June 9, 2011, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Why Spielberg/Amblin produced

    by Wookie_Weed

    Abrams has admitted he went to Amblin/Spielberg so he wouldn't feel like he was ripping off Spielberg's classics. I still enjoyed Super 8, it's a good film -- but it feels like a carefully made replica of something more original, and that lets it down from being a great film.

  • June 9, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Ahhhhhh Asi....

    by rogueleader66

    Just where I expected you to be. Ha ha ha. How have you been? Long time since we talked. Been avoiding this place, and with good reason, not much has changed LOL.

  • June 9, 2011, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Struzan style change

    by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG

    looks quite different than earlier styles. I prefer the older style.

  • June 9, 2011, 9:06 a.m. CST

    To bullet point some things that influenced my dislike......

    by dacanesta

    for those that have now seen it, here are some of the reasons why I pretty much detested it (will only make sense to those who have seen it so feel free to comment after you have): - Lack of humour. - I dont know if the sound was bad but i couldnt understand half of what the kids were saying in the first 15 minutes or so. Ive since read this is a realism exercise (forget the term) of them talking across each other, but I genuinely couldnt understand what was being said. - The 'I gotcha!' scene with the father at the end was bad, and was compounded more than anything can be compounded by the fact it happens twice, with the second father. In short: bizarre, melodramatic nonsense. I can get emotionally involved so its not me! - the 'Super 8' aspect has no relevance. There is a zoom on the camera during the train crash sequence as if its going to be important, but it is only important in the obvious way, ie: it caught a little bit of footage of 'it'. - After caring what 'it' was for a year or so, after an hour or so I honestly, honestly didnt care what it was or what it wanted any more. - Glimpses of a creature worked for me in cloverfield. Welcomed them, because I was intrigued. For whatever reason (completely different film within a film? i.e. the kids hanging about with each other and their parents (rather pointlessly, non-understandably and heartlessly) cruel treatment of them) I didnt care about the creature, meaning 'glimpses' were just annoying, like if your best friend had a new brand of diet coke and was saying 'ah! You wanna bit dont ya! Eh!' and waved it in front of your face and you go 'no....to be honest, no i dont'. Like that! Really wanting people to get their bums there and see it coz i think this is gonna be interesting. Oh, sorry, finally.......i struggle to make any links with this and early spielberg films so this film could do with stopping mentioning that link. Spielberg has humour, adventure, people doing skids on bmx bikes and a sense of playfulness and wonder. His abandonment issues arent dark and cruel. Anyone else who has seen this just want to punch the 2 fathers in the noggin? Then again i wanted to punch the boring kids in the noggih (as i said earlier, good actors, no charisma, if you disagree see this: The Goonies. I liked the lead kid though! Ah, im off to bed, everyone get on this thread with your thoughts, im dying to know!

  • June 9, 2011, 9:27 a.m. CST

    The only honest reviews are bad ones.

    by MoffatBabies

    The only good movies are old. The only good FX are physical. 3D may be how you experience reality, but 3D still sucks because it's "dark" and blurry and it give weeew a widdle headache.. awww...". You're full of shit. Most older films look like shit. CG improved and continues to improve FX. 3D is how you experience reality. Go to a better theater, quit whining and trying to ruin it for everyone else. Pluck an eye out, flatboy. And JJ's Star Trek made even the original series look like a Saturday morning show. You're welcome. Get back on your medication.

  • June 9, 2011, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Oh but it's about story and characters...

    by MoffatBabies

    BS still. Some of those beloved 70s and 80s movies had the worst acting and most derivative stories ever put to celluloid. And even the great ones have some checks they still need to send off to Heinlein, Asimov and Ellison. Nostalgia is blind.

  • June 9, 2011, 9:45 a.m. CST

    I met Lens Flare at a comic book convention.

    by v3d

    He was signing autographs, talking to fans. Seemed like a really nice guy. It turns out he and Abrams were roommates in college. J.J. likes to throw him work when he can.

  • June 9, 2011, 9:59 a.m. CST

    HOMAGE: THE MOVIE

    by BSB

    Poster and all!

  • June 9, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Abrams Turns 45 in a Few Days

    by Aquatarkusman

    Time to stop leaning on nostalgia and movie versions of television series. Maybe being the son of two TV producers has turned him into this never-ending vortex of mediocrity, whereas Duncan Jones being David Bowie's son has inspired him to try for a semblance of originality.

  • Yes, Super 8 proves that not every movie is based on a comic book. Sometimes they rip off older movies instead

  • June 9, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST

    duncan jones

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Yeah Cause Source Code was nothing like 12 monkeys CHOPPED.

  • June 9, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST

    GOD DAMN

    by professor murder

    It's a slow day for news! Can we get some new scoops or something? That DCU stuff ain't cutting it! And as far as Nordling and AICN and the whole JJ thing/obsession... ..They knew it was a Lion and they knew it was huge, so why would they talk bad against it for fear of their lives?

  • June 9, 2011, 1:34 p.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by AsimovLives

    Some things never change, do they? Hehe!

  • June 9, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    moffatbabies

    by AsimovLives

    A what's the medicine you're taking? The one prescribed by Doctor Abrams, that quack?

  • June 9, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    the_choppah

    by AsimovLives

    Sourse Code made you remember 12 Monkeys? In what way? I mean, because of time travel? 12 Monkeys didn't invented time travel in the movies. SOURSE CODE is a damn good movie. Sure, it has hommage details to 70s cinema, which Duncan Jones adores. But they are far more slight and subtle then Abrams obviousness which he even uses as a promotion strategy. Duncan's SOURSE CODE influences are used far mro subtly adn intelligently. For example, the score. In Super 8, as everybody mentions, Abrams went for a pastiche of John Williams scores for Spielberg's movies. That's the obvious thing to do. What did Duncan Jones do? He score is remniscent of the scores made by Michael Small for such thrillers as THE PARALAX VIEW. That's the difference between Abrams and Duncan Jones. Abrams can't helpt but just being on the nose and blatant obvious. Duncan Jones can use subtlery and use it well and effciently, and without the need to ride on it to sell his movie. Duncna Jones's version of what Abrams made with SUPER 8 would be to make Moon but selling it as THE RETURN OF 2001 and produced by Kubrick himself. Or that Moon was THE RETURN OF ALIEN the movie and have it produced by Ridley Scott himself. Duncan Jones doesn't need such obviousness to sell his movies. Duncan Jones is a filmmaker who has to play the salesman to sell his movie. Abrams is just a salesman that pretends to be a filmmaker.

  • A moron that says some pseudo-witty shit and the people who are not paying any attention took that shit as something other then it is and get so marveled by it they obfuscates themselves hard. JJ Abrams is Chance the gardner as a filmmaker. And as Chance the gardner in BEING THERE raised the ladder high on account of other peple's misunderstanding of him, so it's happening with Abrams among the geekry and film critics alike. One day somebody should make a comedy movie about all this JJ Abrams shit. It will be an absolutly hillarious movie that will look like the THIS IS SPINAL TAP but about the movies instead of hair-metal.

  • June 9, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Anyone have an image of the Creature yet?

    by DarthRazor

  • June 9, 2011, 3:29 p.m. CST

    mattman

    by AsimovLives

    Indeed. SOURSE CODE just proved that Duncan Jones is not just a one hit wonder but the real deal. Not that i didn't believed it already thanks to MOON (it takes real talent to make a movie like that), but it was great that Sourse Code confirmed it. Can't wait for his 3rd movie, preferably if it's MUTE.

  • June 9, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST

    It was good but not great.

    by Novaman5000

    I really wanted to love it... Can't exactly put my finger on what didn't work for me, but the story is a bit light. Character arcs are a few sentences, people repair relationships, learn lessons all in a matter of moments. It doesn't feel earned. Not to mention that there is entirely too much hugging and emoting when something dangerous is happenning just offscreen. Run people, Jesus Christ, you can hug later! Ultimately this felt like it could have been condensed to an hour of television and not much would have been lost. There's a lull in the center with some interesting character stuff but the lack of main story meat in these moments (monster pops up only to eat someone, then disappears again for another 20 min) leaves them feeling aimless. Everything felt easily resolved, the climax is about 5 minutes long. The monster's motivations are, as mentioned above, spelled out (perhaps all too clearly in a very very obvious exposition filmstrip) but then he seems to alternate between a danger and a friend. Anyway, it's hard to deny the quality and time that went into the production, but it just doesn't feel fully baked. It's missing action and tension in parts, the subplot things are nice but ultimately pointless. B, maybe B-. Fantastic train wreck, though. Quality effects work all around, really. I hear this thing only was 45 mil, too, so I bet it's hugely profitable for them.

  • June 9, 2011, 4:40 p.m. CST

    The monster looks like a cross between

    by Novaman5000

    The Cloverfield Monster and a giant spider. I kinda dug it, though I wasn't really blown away. At this point we've seen every sort of alien and creature films can throw at us, haven't we?

  • June 9, 2011, 5:42 p.m. CST

    "looks like a cross between"(spoiler?)

    by professor murder

    Looks like a cross between the Cloverfield Monster and a giant spider? I thought the Cloverfield monster already looked like a spider. If they want to scare the audience, they should cross it up between Barbara Streisand and Barbara Walters. Call it the Barbararian.

  • June 9, 2011, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Fan Made, NOT real

    by TDH1138

    Bigfanboy.com reported it's NOT an official poster, it was Fan made. That's why its NOT great, it's just nice.

  • June 9, 2011, 9:57 p.m. CST

    BRAVO, NORDLING!!!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Thank you for the review and the long overdue bitchslap on AssimovLives. As many of us have said before, we don't give a rat's ass what he thinks of Abrams. We're just sick and fucking tired of his monotonous rants and constant hijacking of threads. Aspergers? Oh, indeed.

  • June 10, 2011, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Loved it!!

    by Craig Myers

    Went to opening night last night. LOVE. THIS. FILM. Can't wait to see it again (and again, and again...).

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