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Capone says J.J. Abrams' SUPER 8 is infused with the power of friends, family, and film!!!

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.

It took me a while to realize what the J.J. Abrams written and directed work SUPER 8 actually was, and once I settled into that notion, the world got a whole lot better. More STAND BY ME than CLOSE ENCOUNTERS or E.T., SUPER 8 is one of the truest, purest examples in recent memory of a movie that reminded me of friends gone by, the fun that being a kid used to be, and the way movies energized our spirit of adventure to make our own sci-fi short films that borrowed from STAR WARS, as well as episodes of "Star Trek" and "Buck Rodgers."

I can say in complete honesty that I am not one of those who has ever worshipped at the altar of Abrams. Never met the man or even spoke to him. I was a fan of "Lost" but I actually dig "Fringe" way more at this point. And while I was a great admirer of his take on STAR TREK, MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE III left me a bit empty. But it's clear to me from SUPER 8 that he and I share a great love for the early works of Steven Spielberg (a producer on this movie). If you ever walked out of a Steven Spielberg film wanting to find out more about the possibility of extra-terrestrial life or just kick ass after walking out of an INDIANA JONES movie, you will absolutely respond to SUPER 8.

The plot of SUPER 8 is ridiculously simple: a group of kids living in late-70s small-town Ohio are making a zombie movie in their spare time. Young Joe Lamb (Joel Courtney) is an extraordinary make-up artist (following the handbook by Dick Smith), while his closest friend Charles (Riley Griffith) is the film's director. Charles manages to get Alice Dainard (Elle Fanning) to agree to be in the film because he likes her. She may not be the most beautiful girl in his school, but he senses that she is a kindred spirit. It doesn't hurt that she's a terrific actress and can even cry on cue. But Alice seems to find more in common with Joe, which is not good news since his mother's recent death seems somehow tied to her father (Ron Eldard). And when Joe's dad, the local sheriff Jackson (Kyle Chandler), finds out the kids have been keeping company, he forbids it from happening again. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention one of many favorite characters, Cary (Ryan Lee), who has a passion for explosives that begins with firecrackers and ends with…well, it never ends. The child actors in SUPER 8 are all so good.

In an attempt to do as much location shooting as possible, the kids sneak out at night to use a small, abandoned train depot as a set. When they hear a train coming, they rush to get the seen shot so it will end just as the train goes by. But just past the depot at a train crossing down, a pick-up truck swerves to get on the track headed straight for the train barreling down the track. If you've seen any trailer or the teaser for this movie, then you know the disaster than ensues. And as many of you know, something held behind a well-sealed door gets out, but what you don't know is that that isn't the only bizarre thing that happens during the crash.

The kids retrieve their camera (which, although knocked over, continued filming) and get the hell out of Dodge as the local Air Force authorities convene on the crash site. Although the kids are clearly shaken up by the events, they also are charged to finish their movie and even decide to use the train wreckage as a background for their set up the following day. And that's one of the many things about SUPER 8 that rang so true for me: these kids aren't traumatized by destruction; they're energized by it. They want to take more risks. When Sheriff Lamb finds out his son not only is keeping company with Alice, but seems to actually like her, he puts a lockdown on Joe, but that doesn't deter these kids from getting together and finishing their zombie flick. Art before all else!

The military presence in the town grows exponentially, and the kids soon figure that something has gone missing from the train. Despite the film being set in 1979 (there are reports of the Three Mile Island nuclear plant disaster on the TVs), in a weird way, the way Abrams handles the Air Force clampdown (led by Noah Emmerich's Nelec) feels more like something out of a 1950s, paranoia-driven sci-fi film. Naturally, the kids find a way to use the presence of military vehicles in their town as part of their movie.

I don't think there's any secret that there's an element of SUPER 8 that is not of this world. But here's the thing: that part of this story didn't capture me to the same degree as the much larger sections of the film about friends and family, and I don't think that's a flaw of the filmmaking; I think it's deliberate. The extra-terrestrial vs. the military elements are the backdrop for a much more interesting and human story being told about parents and their kids, about loss, and about forgiveness. I'm sure that's exactly what all of you science-fiction fans really want to hear, right? But the truth is, without getting overly sentimental, Abrams pulls it off in the same way Spielberg always managed to. Close Encounters of the Third Kind is less about first contact and more about making connections with other human beings as well as a power greater than one self. For Roy Neary, meeting those aliens is tantamount to meeting God. But I digress, because these kids don't care about seeing or meeting aliens as much as they want to do whatever it is they're going to do together.

People are tossing around the word "nostalgia" a lot with regards to SUPER 8, and I find that odd because, by definition, nostalgia implies a glorification of the past. If you want to see a movie that's out now that contemplates nostalgia, I'd recommend Woody Allen's MIDNIGHT IN PARIS (I'm serious, go see it). I never got the sense that Abrams was glorifying the late '70s with this film beyond a few small tributes to model making and mentions of a couple movies of the period. The film is set in this time because it was the beginning of an era in history when children could make their own movies with super 8 cameras that were actually affordable to people without a lot of money. Abrams is chronicling the birth of a kind of cinematic imagination that began in the mid-1960s and ended with the video camera.

SUPER 8 is a small movie about a big subject, and other than certain alien-related moments (and the big train crash), I could imagine someone making a movie like this for very little money. The real drama in this story is not whether or not an alien can be wrangled or what it is it is trying to do now that it's free. I was far more unnerved by the scenes between Joe and his dad as they try to navigate the silences of their relationship with Joe's mom around any more. Jackson is convinced he would be a terrible single dad, but the look in Joe's eyes tells us he at least wants his father to try before shipping him off to camp for the summer. This film broke my heart several time, for all the right reasons. SUPER 8 is a film for people who remember that there was a time when it was okay to mesh science fiction and stories about caring people and families. You can't laud Spielberg in one breath and decry having your heart strings plucked forcefully in another; he used to do that all the time.

-- Capone
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  • June 3, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Can't wait to see it!

    by Saracen1

  • June 3, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Can't wait!

    by Lance2769


  • June 3, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Ah yes...I remember being a young white child once.

    by knowthyself

    No I don't.

  • June 3, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    I heard there is a cameo from...

    by professor murder

    ...Wolverine in it. With the train crash/debacle shown on a bar TV, it shows Logan sitting at the bar drinking and he says to the bartender "The thing that they're saying escaped...they're saying it was a Lion...they're saying it was huge."

  • June 3, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST


    by Mr Soze

    Ill see this fucker

  • June 3, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST

    ASI GOING BATSHIT IN 3...2...1.

    by DangerDave


  • June 3, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST

    this sounds lame from this review

    by Rupee88

    You can tell Capone was disappointed. I'm glad this is sucky although I did enjoy Star Trek at the theater...not proud of that but it's the truth.

  • June 3, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Asimovlives is the Asimovlives of JJ Abrams talkbacks

    by NathanGrey

  • June 3, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST

    I Could Take Every Word In this Review as Gospel

    by Aquatarkusman

    And still conclude that this would be an awful cinema-going experience.

  • June 3, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    The power of family, friends and film compels you!!!!!

    by Bobo_Vision

  • June 3, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Sounds great.

    by shutupfanboy

    Probably skipping First Class to see this.

  • June 3, 2011, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Formulaic filmmaking

    by Bobo_Vision

    The Spielberg formula of introducing supernatural elements to make films about human relationships. Sounds about as subtle as a sledgehammer.

  • June 3, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Somebody call Penn and Teller.

    by tamethecunt

    Cause that was some epic, bullshit! Of course what do you expect coming from this site with JJ Adrams? Never fear, if QT, Robert R, Del Toro or JJ make a film, or produce a film, it'll get glowing reviews at Aintitcool. It goes with policy rule one.

  • June 3, 2011, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Here's CHOPPAH's review of SUPER 8! (Don't worry; spoiler free)


  • June 3, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Argh... Capone!

    by Bald Evil

    All the coming-of-age stuff is great, but at least tell us if the alien looks cool. :)

  • June 3, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Sounds like it's too calculated...

    by Dursman2000

    This film, the way it's being sold -- it comes across as being too manipulative and recycled out of other films we loved decades ago. You can't make a "Spielberg movie" without having a soul of your own...I'm still going to see it, but this review feels a bit of a let down.

  • June 3, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Any word on how Kyle Chandler is in this?

    by Scott

    He was amazing in FNL, and seems to fit the small-town sherrif role pretty well.

  • war of the worlds killed me because we never saw the big battle over the hill. Is this super 8 the same thing because if it is I'll wait for video. Stand by me with 10 minutes of action thrown in sounds like battle LA ( once was enough).

  • June 3, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Stand By Me???

    by PorkChopXpress

    Uh...okay. The studio is seriously fucking up in the way they're advertising it, then. Audiences are going to be pissed.

  • June 3, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Sounds like Stephen King

    by 6000_little_griglets

    Judging by this review... reminds me of stand by me of course, but also, for example, IT... when I read IT, for me it was a fantastic book about the relationship between those kids and growing up etc... the monster was secondary, same as the dead body in sbm...

  • June 3, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST

    This is a thinly veiled warning

    by daggor

    that it's not a sci-fi film. I would normally blame themarketing department on the false impression the ads have made, but this is an Abrams film. The secrecy angle is being played up, big time, and if there isn't a payoff, viewers will be pissed.

  • June 3, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Being that age and making super 8 movies then

    by disfigurehead

    I want to see this.

  • June 3, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Old School films

    by CoolerKing72

    I miss those old school late 70's-80's films you went to see at the cinema and left feeling you want to do that. Still thinking the day after in class about it. There are the odd few today but i think these new multiplexes are souless voids that get your money and get you out.. I remember the cinema being an event and with watching Empire Strikes Back at 8 i still remember the old cinema, the lady walking round with the ice-cream, the trailers (cant stop the music) and it being awesome.. I pity the kids of today of not having that and id love to have a little cinema that shows just classic films. Id be in heaven.

  • June 3, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST


    by 6000_little_griglets

    Yup, it's like when i first saw the shining and was expecting a horror ala a nightmare on elm st... didn't meet my expectations and I thought it was boring as hell... now I watch it and just soak up the brilliance of it for what it is... not saying super 8 is brilliant, haven't seen it yet, but I agree re the marketing and think it could possibly end up being one of those movies that end up getting reassessed... like if you went into bladerunner expecting a star warsesque film...

  • June 3, 2011, 2:53 p.m. CST

    RIP James Arness

    by Blanket-Man

    So long, Marshall Dillon...

  • June 3, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    The more I read about this movie, the more it resonates

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    I was a teen in the '70s. I bought a copy of Famous Monsters Dick Smith Monster MakeUp Handbook. I shot a lot of Super 8 mini movies (one where I painted my neighbors eyelids white to resemble zombies). My parents had their problems and eventually divorced. Christ, is my life a Spielberg/Abrams movie?

  • June 3, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST


    by Gidney

    this is sounding more and more sucktacular as the reviews dribble out. First, what kind of ego has a producer credit on an homage to himself? Second, remember everything is OUR fault; humanity, especially the military, we're all to blame always. It's the Speilberg motto. Finally, this is being sold as a monster movie, not an ET experience. You know why? Because ET was innovative for its time but my god the treacle just oozes from every shot--particularly those that helped pioneer modern product placement and those later to be edited away from history (those weren't really walkie talkies, kids). Now it's just a post-ironic punchline to a Seth Macfarlane cartoon. The only reason to go would be to hear the collective retch when someone gives the "can't we all forgive?" speech in response to the monster's unexpected mercy.

  • June 3, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Im getting a vibe like that Monsters flick

    by Knobules

    Plug in a movie about monsters and get boy and girl issues for 2 hours and five minutes of giant squigly crap. So even though the trailer gets you VERY hyped to see some amazing thing that busted out of the train. Its actually about dad pouting. Why didnt they show a trailer of bummed out dad and son hugging in the trailer and ignore the monster. Oh right. MARKETING. Whores.

  • June 3, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Let make a movie called. Giant Scary Monsters and Zombies

    by Knobules

    But its really a coming of age movie about a grandmother talking to a girl about her first period. Lots of silent moments and hugging. There really arent many monsters or zombies. That was just BS to get your money.

  • June 3, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST


    by blakindigo

    ran away with this talkback. Funniest comment today.

  • June 3, 2011, 4:01 p.m. CST

    I prefer food, folks ’n' fun.

    by frank

    What a terrible slogan that was.

  • June 3, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST

    great review, choppah

    by frank

  • And thus we learned that Capone has no contact with reality whatsoever. And JJ Abrams, for that matter.

  • June 3, 2011, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Of course...

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    many of the TB'ers on this site are going to shit all over a movie like this, even without actually seeing it because they view anything with (positive) human emotions as inherently cloying, pat and contrived, regardless of the quality of the movie in question. If these people can't be happy (and many of them obviously can't, unless of course, they watch someone fall down a flight of stairs, at which point they might indulge in a slight chuckle), then happiness obviously doesn't exist; and any attempt to demonstrate that it does is seen as either weak-minded or manipulative. Me, I'm a sentimental old fool, a relic of bygone times apparently, but I bemoan the game of "out-gross, out-chastise and out-hate the competition" that seems to have become some cinemaphiles' bread and butter these days. What the hell is wrong with some of you people? Fucking lighten up, and try to enjoy life. You're only here for a short time - make the most of it. Many people have compared this to Spielberg, prompting others to call Spielberg egotistical for producing an "homage" to himself. But if this movie even touches the hem of Spielberg's metaphorical garment, then why wouldn't Spielberg endorse it? It's not ego - it's pride. Finally, to any and all Spielberg-haters, Spielberg is a master. And if you can't see the inherent truth to that statement, I pity you. I really do. Now, I've said my piece; you can go back to watching torture porn.

  • June 3, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST

    It ain't the years, its the mileage

    by Iahael

    Now I know what has been stuck in my soul regarding the release of this flick -- its the end. The official end of that entire era. All of us Gen X'ers, with our assumptions about cinematic greatness, the power movies had to impact us, are now officially a part of the past. All of us eternal children from that last era of innocence must now face our own adulthood, the mistakes and the choices, the pain and the glory of who we are, and how we were shaped by the movies this film ultimately celebrates. Because we didn't just watch movies, we absorbed them, lived them, many of us wanted to make them. Before we were a demographic, before corporate reality had come to dominate everything. Whatever anybody's opinion is, this is the subconscious truth behind the nostalgia. T.'.

  • June 3, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Makes me wanna dig up my dogeared issues of CINEMAGIC ....

    by spidar40

  • Not really, at least, not in the way you mean. Not in a literal sense.

  • June 3, 2011, 5:42 p.m. CST

    I started making Super 8 films in 1971...

    by Stan Arthur

    ... and was an Famous Monsters fan from 1963. I'm pretty sure this film is gonna hit me right where I live. 1971 - The Blob Thing 1973 - Phantom of the Opera And a few more that are forever lost. Sigh.

  • June 3, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST


    by ThisBethesdaSea

    I guess it's a thing of the past now.

  • June 3, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Anyone have an image of the Creature yet?

    by DarthRazor

  • June 3, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    So it's a Cloverfield prequel with some lame homo kids?

    by Nabster

    I heard it sucks.

  • June 3, 2011, 6:23 p.m. CST

    And Devin Faraci said it was a piece of shit

    by Nabster

    He also said tbers are the scum of the geekverse.

  • June 3, 2011, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Where's The Obit for James Arness?

    by sundancekeed

    I mean he's only one of the most iconic actors to ever appear on television. Plus, he was "The Thing From Outer Space" if Matt Dillon didn't give him enough cred. And now we return you to the discussion of E.T. Gone Bad.

  • June 3, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    I actually made Super 8 Movies as a kid

    by billF

    But that was in 1975 rather than 79. But anyway the more I hear about this the more I want to see it! I hope the monster/alien is pretty cool looking

  • June 3, 2011, 7:01 p.m. CST

    So Abrams Whacks off Spielberg

    by doom master

    Whatever keeps Spielberg and his wrinkly cock and balls away from the indiana Jones franchise is alright by ME!!!!

  • And by the end of your review, I was bored as hell.

  • Sigh. The reviews on this site make me realize that I no longer have any interest in seeing this film. I have no desire to watch a kid drama. Yawn. I'll wait for "Watch Instantly" on Netflix.

  • June 3, 2011, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Always hated sentimental Spielberg

    by VegasRonReturns

    and will be skipping this unless I hear about heads detaching from bodies and running around on spider legs.

  • That's true. It's the psychologists and counselors that insist all kids be traumatized by any unusual event. Kids are strong, and most simply find things like that exciting. Counselors that descend on every tragedy like jackals probably cause more damage to kids' psyches than they ever help.

  • June 3, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST

    I think people miss the point of this film

    by brattyben

    If anyone has heard Abrams speak at TED, then they will understand his passion for emulating Spielberg. He talks about the mystery in the box, and goes on to say that Jaws isn't a story about a giant shark that eats people, and E.T. isn't a film about an alien trying to get home. Those films deal with characters that come to a crossroads in their life, and the fantastic is a way for those issues to develop and play out and sometimes create an allegory for whatever character arcs are in the story. E.T. is about divorce, and learning to let go, Jaws is a story about a man coming to grips with where he belongs in the world. From what I've read of the reviews for Super 8, this is exactly what Abrams achieved. Coming of age, father son relationship, yeah, that's great. I'm actually more interested in seeing these relationships play out than seeing what the alien looks like. Besides, did people learn NOT to have any fun nowadays. Fuck, even if it's not whatever you think it is, or just 'hating' Abrams, does that mean you'll actively deny yourselves to have a good time? Just seems kinda backward to me. I'm going to see it. I'm pretty sure I'll like it a lot.

  • June 3, 2011, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Capone, I think you mixed up a couple names

    by BadMrWonka

    Noah Emmerich is a bit too old to be playing young Charles, the kid director. That would be Riley Griffiths.

  • Goatfucker it's not like you have any contact with reality you pompous, stupid windbag. Will you just admit you want Abrams to cum to that fifth world hell hole of yours to fuck you up the ass? These pining love letters of yours in EVERY TB to JJ Abrams are getting tiring you piece of shit.

  • June 3, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    This is the film that I look forward to the most this summer.

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Great review! However, I still would like to know what you thought about the SCORE of the film. Did it remind you of anything?

  • June 3, 2011, 11:59 p.m. CST


    by Hugh G Rekshun

    I was really looking forward to seeing this movie until I read that review. Guess I'll have to wait for The Thing prequel for (hopefully) a good monster flick.

  • June 4, 2011, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Wait... you've never met JJ?

    by Charlie

    "I can say in complete honesty that I am not one of those who has ever worshipped at the altar of Abrams. Never met the man or even spoke to him." The mention of this strike anyone else a bit odd?

  • June 4, 2011, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Three words....

    by Literarywanderer

    Sounds like shit. Is it so hard to make a good movie with kids without trying too hard to rip off past models? For a director to say, "I'm trying to emulate my idol," sounds more like, "I have no original idea so I'll steal what worked before." This screams Cloverfield all over again. Show little because the overall product is shit. I won't be paying to see, what the trailers have already proven, is shitty child acting with little monster action. Unless it is Goonies in child acting ability, then the monster sells it and this flick stinks of shit and looks like shit so I know it to be shit. By the by, I heard Vaughn knocked up the White Queen. Way to go, King Nerd!!! You've achieved the impossible!!! Impregnate that mutant bitch and bring us the future of humanity!!!!!

  • June 4, 2011, 12:33 a.m. CST

    @cotton_mcknight Film vs. Movie

    by brattyben

    Yeah, I guess I'm guilty of it, lol. But, the fact is, I wasn't trying to be pompous. I have a dear friend who is a filmmaker. He works in the medium of film, so I guess being around him has influenced my language some. But, on the other hand, they are literally using film when they film a movie so I guess it's not entirely out of question to call any movie a film. I do understand your opinion, tho. I used to feel the same way about 'graphic novel'. I guess I must have softened in my old age.

  • June 4, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Of course, never fails....

    by ReelLifeLA

    ...reading feedback comments from the general public on this site is like the A/V club teacher (in this case, Harry, Quint and Capone) setting up a video camera in a high school classroom, then having to leave the room unexpectedly... Yes, you're bound to get something on tape, and sure, some of it might be marginally quippy, sensational or chuckle worthy for a moment or two, however, at the end of the day all that you've got is the same tired retread of fart and dick jokes delivered by the same retards who took shop all 4 years and think everything they do is hilarious (and that you should think what they do is funny to). No matter what the topic is (or isn't) , no matter how much effort goes into creating or making a film or show, these same cynical, lazy, low-brow bleacher dwellers who've accomplished nothing of import in their own lives (much less worked as hard or accomplished as much of a career as say JJ Abrams, an at best mid-tier successful director, has) can of course be counted on to pass judgement and make uninformed observations about the entire lives of others. Frankly, reading feedback forums on here makes me nostalgic for global plagues ( and perhaps its time once again to thin the herd a bit).

  • June 4, 2011, 3:29 a.m. CST

    "He also said tbers are the scum of the geekverse"

    by AsimovLives

    There's some truth to that. And i'm a TB also.

  • Generalizing much, friend. A kid that would get energize by a terrible event, i would say they would need therapy, because they could be psychopaths in the making.

  • June 4, 2011, 3:33 a.m. CST

    " that Jaws isn't a story about a giant shark that eats people"

    by AsimovLives

    Bullhsit! JAWS is a movie about a sea monster eating people. With some very good drama thrown in. Most of that human drama came about because the mechanical shark kept breaking up and in the lul moments theykept rewriting the script and revisiting it and polishing it. Make no mistake, when Jaws first started production, it was merely a monster movie. The delays allowed it to became something more.

  • Movies is the same as calling a film as flicks. It's just a popular colloquialism.

  • June 4, 2011, 3:36 a.m. CST

    And thus we learned that Shitphos_2 is still a retard.

    by AsimovLives

  • June 4, 2011, 3:40 a.m. CST

    sithmenace_returns, you read everything as jealousy?

    by AsimovLives

    You know what they say? They say trhat all the people who see jealousy in others are jealous people themselves, because it's the most powerful emotion they know and it informs all they do and think, which makes them protect it to everybody else's actions and thoughs, right or wrong. Beware, friend.

  • June 4, 2011, 3:46 a.m. CST

    I never met Capone...

    by Geofruben

    So that will make my over all opinion of this review worth considering. It hurts to read some of this shit.

  • June 4, 2011, 5:28 a.m. CST


    by VegasRonReturns

    You're wrong about the energizing effect a traumatic event can bring about. It's a "holy shit, I lived through that and my adrenaline was pumping, I've never felt so alive" type of thing.<p> Not sure if that makes sense, but there it is.

  • June 4, 2011, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Wrong, Asmiovlives

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Jaws was an huge bestselling book before it was made into a movie and the book had much more human stuff than the film, they had to cut most of it out for the movie. It was not some monster movie dreamed up out of Spielberg's head.

  • June 4, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    This review proved what I suspected...

    by Yeti

    Super 8's a renter.

  • June 4, 2011, 8:47 a.m. CST

    I admit to having a family too.

    by James_Camera_On

    But the point of a family is to get you out in the real world, independent, so you can have a life and adventures of your own. Whenever a critic starts carrying on about family-this and family-that regarding a film, especially one that from the trailers at least, looks to be about something else, I begin to worry. True, there are lots of wonderful family oriented films out there. Last year's Never Let Me Go was one of the best. Like most, I'm really looking forward to seeing The Tree of Life. But when I first saw the ads for Super 8 and started to read about it, I had a sinking feeling. And here is what I dread: At some point the huge scary monster will turn out to be just as scare of us as we are of it! That it will help bring the friction-filled familial relationships to a moving climax! And that in addition to helping the kids with their homework an prepping them for major movie careers, it will give us a lesson in diversity and accepting others even if they look different from us! And so my heart (and I do have one) began to sink. It's not that I hate Spielberg homages or even J.J. Abrams for that matter, but we need to move on. Lord knows, Spielberg has. What was the last movie by him you really liked? When I asked myself that question, it was depressing how long it took for me to come up with an answer. The man had a long run in movie terms: from 1975 to 1994. And better or worse he has had a huge impact on American movies and some of his films will remain classics long are everyone posting here has gone to their reward. But I think he and his imitators have reached the point of self-parody and we as the audience need to stop enabling them. It's sad but it's also life and as we all know family too is a part of life . . . Okay, enough puking for one post. None of this means that Super 8 is guaranteed to suck but if I do go, it will be with greatly reduced expectations. My only advice as this point -- reduce yours as well.

  • June 4, 2011, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Kids and traumatic events

    by NativeGaijin

    Assi, I'm curious about your personal experience with children in the aftermath of disasters since you question Capone's perception of their reactions. I have had the misfortune of being witness to two catastrophic events in my life - Hurricane Iniki on Kauai in 1992 (which coincidentally also happened on September 11), and the earthquake/tsunami in Japan on March 11 of this year. In both cases, children were exposed to destruction that literally stretched as far as the eye could see. But guess what? In both cases there were lots of kids who actually wanted to go out and explore the devastation. In most cases, the only thing keeping them from doing so were their parents who were rightfully worried about their safety and the perceived inappropriateness of being excited by such a tragedy. I think what many adults overlook (or have forgotten) is that, in many ways, children see the world much differently than adults. As adults, we consider such events to be traumatic because we have the ability to reflect on the "bigger picture" of what these disasters mean in terms of the cost in lives, property and economic impact. These are issues that impact adults in a direct way. Kids don't always have the ability to think that deeply, especially immediately after the fact. Sometimes, the chance to see something they've never seen before is reason enough to do something, however harebrained it may seem to adults. Being dangerous doesn't even enter into the equation because not thinking about consequences of one's actions is one of the defining aspects being a kid.

  • ...Don't know if it will be any good or not, but I'll be there just on the off chance it's even nearly half as good as those two films.

  • June 4, 2011, 9:21 a.m. CST

    So in 20 or 30 years, we can expect a 'Cell Phone Cam' movie, I guess.

    by Orbots Commander

    Given you can shoot 720p video on most smart phone cameras or on an iPod Touch, most teenagers today have advantages we '80's era kids never dreamed of.

  • ...It's not like he's saying kids go "Cool, all those people died! Awesome!", he's not saying energized by death, but destruction, the train wreck, whatever explosions ans fireworks the alien causes. Life for a kid in a small town can be pretty darn boring at times, and something like a train wreck can be the most exciting, coolest thing ever. I remember when the hotel in my town was being demolished by a big ass wrecking ball, all the local kids turned out to watch it go down, it was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen, and i was "energized". Doesn't mean I nedd a therapist, kids just don't think the same way as adults, not yet fully emotionally mature. What might be worrying or frightening for an adult can spell adventure and awesome for a kid.

  • June 4, 2011, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Movie or film?

    by sleepyhead

    A 'film' is still what many of us Brits and other Europeans call a 'movie', as we have been doing for decades. 'Movie' is considered an Americanism that hasn't quite caught on yet.

  • "seen", huh? Not "scene"?

  • June 4, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Wait just a minute Mr. Capone

    by BuffyFaithtribyeah

    I remember Mr. Abrams discribing this as more of a mix of Old carpenter meets early Spielberg with some horror elements of friday the thirteenth in it. Capturing the groovy 70s asthetics like movies like sleepaway camp. So you are saying this is more like my life as a dog instead of ET meets the THING. Well mr. Capone thats ok to me but the trailer seems to indicate the oppisite of what you mentioned that I thought I would check with you one last time so I dont get disappointed like how when I saw suckerpunch I was expecting a serious drama ala terms of endearment but got the simplistic raunch of Porkeys except not even coming close to being anywhere near as good as Porkeys which to this day I get excited at Kim Catralls weakness to boys jockstraps and smelly socks and how she howled like a hot bitch in heat.

  • June 4, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    So it's exactly as I predicted

    by SadTruth

    My comments to earlier posts about this film seem to have been spot on. Shame, I just assume to have been wrong. Well, should be interesting Netflix Ipad fair while running on the treadmill this winter.

  • June 4, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST

    This Sounds Like This Might Be The Film Of The Summer

    by Real Deal

    There are so many films coming out this summer that I want to see but this sounds much like a film with heart. I loved all of Speilberg's films from the 70's and early 80's. Not just because they offered ground breaking FXs but because they touched you on a level that FXs by themselves can never do. When you watch CE3K sure the mothership and all of the ufo activity is thrilling but it all comes down to Roy Neary being chosen ( after everything he's been through ) over all of the ones the government wanted to go. That and François Truffaut reaching out with his hand to sign to the alien and the alien not only signing back but including his smile. Now mix that stuff with " Stand By Me " and you have elements that most movie goes can't ignore. I'm thinking it will hit movie goers on many levels. I'm thinking ( and hoping ) it's that kind of film.

  • June 4, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST

    lol reallifa...your pretentiousness...

    by Boober

    Ever watch a fat kid try to run a 40 yard dash after bragging how awesome he is? That's the kind of "weight" your counter-rant carries. For most of us, the more we push it, the more amusing it becomes. We only need people like you to take it seriously for the cycle to perpetuate itself.

  • June 4, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Ahhhh! So Many TB Trolls

    by Real Deal

    They're a dime a dozen. It makes me glad I don't have to be one of those people. Or have to look at the world the way they do.

  • June 4, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Super 8 is infused with the power of the love for easy profit

    by AsimovLives

  • June 4, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    For an adult,i think it makes sense for some people. For a kid, hell no.

  • June 4, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Jaws the movie was a simplification of the wrid ass plotting the book had, so they could turn it into a simple monster movie. When the mechanical shark rfused to work on most days, the filmmakers decided that, in that lulls, to pump up the script, and thus such stuff as the Annapolis monologue scenes came from. The book might be a drama with a shark in it, but the movie is a monster movie with good drama in it. And there's absolutly nothing wrong with that, friend. I'm saying this as a compliment. and calling out on Abrams' bullshit. He sure likes to say the sweet stuff designed specifically to please the geeks. Such cynicism!

  • June 4, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    LOL! it.

    by Boober

  • ... the trainwreck scene. More specifically, that the kids are found right in the middle of it. Aparently,. in Abrams' mind, which is so influenced by the movies of Michael Bay, it wouldn't suffice that the kids would be witnesses of a spetacular trainwreck seen at some distance. Oh no, he had to go the big ass explosions action movie way, he had to put the kids right in the middle of all that shit. So we see this kid running while tonnes of burning heavy metalic shit is falling all around him missing him by a narrow margin, and yet EVERYTHING misses him by the miracles of Baby Jesus! It0's the typical bulslhit of trying to have the cake and eat it too. Abrams wants his rpecious action shit stuff, he wants to have the audiences be excited by an action scene, but he can't make a kid be hurt. So, since we know it's impossible at that moment in the story for the kid to actually suffer any real harm, the whiole scene will just be over-the-top bullshit spectacle. It's shit like this that gives me an indication that Abram shas pulled about bullshit movie form his ass. If we ar lucky, the trainwreck bullshit scene will the only one of that kind in the movie and we will be speared more of this kind of crap. I'm reminded of how in EMPIRE OF THE SUN, when the big event scene arrives, ther american attack on the japanese airbase next to Jim's concentration camp, the whole scene is seen from a relatively good distance by Jim, and yet the scene is exilarating, fantastic, emotional, spectacular and we feel all the destruction and the hits and the explosions and the feelings that Jim is having, while all the stuff looks both magical and very dangerous. If Abrams had directed that movie, he would had put Jim right in the middle of all the explosions and shit, him outrunning fireballs and flying falling burning debris, because that's, like, emotional and shit, dude! Abrams is not the next Spielberg, he's the next Abrams, for his sins.

  • June 4, 2011, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Fuck off asimolives!

    by JarJar25

    I liked Star Trek and I loved Lost. J.J. Abrams is a solid director and all around pro filmmaker. I don't love everything he has done, but there are a lot of other directors whom I like that have done projects I have not been too keen about. I don't know what the difference is between Abrams and other directors out there. I just know I like his films and look forward to watching his second Trek film. That last film was better than most of the other Star Trek TV series put together. I just think your a total prick for singling him out, when there a worst people making films out there.

  • June 4, 2011, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Ahhhhh! asimovelives continues his anti Abrams campaign

    by Real Deal

    Well one thing you can't fault him for is not trying to convince us. LOL!

  • June 4, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Boober...

    by ReelLifeLA've just illustrated my point more effectively than my earlier comments ever could (can't make your point without insulting someone else, has to have the last critical word)...clearly I'm dealing with a superior intellect here (which, btw, like Kirk, I'm laughing at). Fortunately, chest-pounding insults to ensure your (perceived) superiority is recognized by others don't protect you from being viewed as arrogant and pretentious yourself, and folks pick up on it quickly (seems they already have from other comments left). And illustrating your point by invoking a metaphor of an overweight individual running and comparing it to myself (someone who has never suffered a weight issue in his life)?.....real integrity there. Gosh, that must have taken you hours to come up with. Stay classy, Boober...stay classy.

  • The last season and the very ending ruined the show completely. But even without the blight of the last season, the show was the greatest cock-tease, the greatest fraud in the history of television. Everything that happened, all the mysterys were just bullshit that never meant anything, that was never explained.

  • And this one time, he was correct.

  • June 4, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Everyone goes on about character, plot, emotions...

    by Ice Paul

    But honestly, as long as those aren't a total fail, then I don't really mind as long as the alien or creatures kick a lot of ass. I'd much rather see the coolest alien ever doing all types of amazing stuff, with a so-so cast and maybe a bit of an illogical plot, than a movie with great actors and plot, but boring aliens. In other types of movie, yeah, that other stuff is paramount, but come-on, this is obviously an alien movie, give me some amazing aliens.

  • June 4, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Lost should had lasted only one season. It should had been a self-contained one season show. All the stuff they told in all those seasons could had been shown in just one season, without all the filler stuff the show is so notorious for. And the blame for the failure of Lost sit sqarely on Abrams. Why? Becasue it was his idea to have a show fileld with mysteries, with all that supernatural weird stuff. Originally the show was suppsoed to be a CAST AWAY style show but with a cast of a dozen instead of just Tom Hanks and a volley ball like in the movie. But when Abrams was brough in, he came up with all the mystery and supernatural stuff. That by trhe end the show couldn't satisfacorily resolved the mystery that he show piled up since the pilot is due to Abrams's decisions and to what he turned the show in. His fans scream "but he had little to do after he directed the pilot", but he was instrumental in how the show was going to be, and it was his idea all that mystery stuff which there would be no way in hell anybody could brough that to a fruitful and good fruition at the end. So, yeah, Abrams is much to blame for the LOST fiasco as well. Devin Faraci seems like stuck up guy, but he's right about LOST: it's a dumb show that pretends to be smart.

  • June 4, 2011, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Thank god for torrents

    by pauduro


  • June 4, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST


    by FluffyUnbound

    Sometimes you make some good points, but I guess you must be projecting some childhood trauma of your own or something. A kid who survives an accident where THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNHURT will find it exhilarating unless they see their mom decapitated or something. There is a reason amusement parks have roller coasters. I've been in two walk-away car accidents in my life. The adrenaline pours in five minutes late and your knees knock together, and if you're anything like me you start to laugh. The lines in THE DEPARTED are true. Most people ham up the emotional affect of trauma because they've been instructed by TV that that's how they're supposed to react. A trauma that's a near-miss is a pretty close chemical cousin to joy.

  • June 4, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST

    CLOVERFIELD was the most entertaining sci-fi flick of the last decade.

    by FluffyUnbound

    But it's only really good for one viewing. The CLOVERFIELD haters are even farther off base than the 300 haters. But CLOVERFIELD isn't an Abrams directorial product so it's not really relevant.

  • June 4, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST


    by FluffyUnbound

    Christian Bale is right in the middle of shit more than once. The scene where he leaves the costume party and meets half the Japanese army comes to mind. The scene where half the population of Shanghai tramples him away from his mom comes to mind. The scene where the Mustangs attack the base comes to mind. In fact, I would say that the PRECISE REASON Abrams shot the scene that way was BECAUSE of EMPIRE OF THE SUN. I doubt he did it as well as Spielberg, and I'll probably find it annoying as a hackneyed knockoff for that reason, but I think it's silly to say that Abrams exposes his child characters to risk for cinematic purposes and Spielberg doesn't or didn't.

  • June 4, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Still taking me seriously, reallifa?

    by Boober

    I hope you are just playing the game. If not... You make the mistake of thinking my "boober" persona on here is who I really am. When you join a pack of escapist, role-playing wolves, don't expect them to act like docile pets. These TB are outlandish (and sometimes garish) fun. It's just fun. The most outrageous and insulting of the bunch are the Alphas.

  • ...Really man, if you don't think so, you haven't seen enough movies (and I know you have seen loads of films Asi, which is why all this anger against Abrams confuses me). Abrams isn't guilty of crimes against cinema, not by any stretch of the imagination, though there are many, many directors that are guilty of such crimes. Sure, you can call him workmanlike, mediocre, even bad, but not terrible, I've seen A LOT worse, and I know you have too. I'm saying this not as an Abram's fan, not at all, disliked everything he's done aside from Star Trek, and even then I only thought it was okay. I'm only saying this because I would really like to know, honestly, why do you have so much hatred for Abrams, spew so much venom, when there are many worse filmmakers out there, and if you don't agree that there are worse (I think you know there are, you're too smart and too much of a film lover not to Asi), then you must admit there are as bad. I guess what I'd really like to know my friend, why have you singled Abrams out from all the other awful filmmakers in the world. And please Asi, this is a straight question, I'm not attacking you or anything, would just like to know. Now, I don't want you to tell me why you think he's terrible, you've told us why enough times, I want to know why you single him out because, as I said, there a much worse.

  • Dude! Go watch District 9! Go watch Moon! Man, really, right now!! Cloverfield was lame dude.

  • June 4, 2011, 10:56 p.m. CST

    @ asimovlives: "Failure of LOST?"

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You lost me there. LOST is one of the most thoughtful, inventive and successful science fiction television shows of all time. It came at a risk for ABC/Disney, and it paid off. Dude...I am beginning to believe that you can count the shows and movies that you actually approve using your fingers and toes. You really need to stop criticizing every film and television show based upon your own taste. You remind me of the idiot who walks into a Sizzler steakhouse buffet and selects three or four items that he likes...but then SPITS on the rest and loudly yells how "disgusting" they are. Look bro: Not everyone shares your taste in movies, tv shows or even science fiction stories. You need to think outside of the basement and realize that the word is bigger than AsimovLives. Now, I realize that you will try to think up something "witty" as a comeback -- but I didn't say anything that was specifically meant as an affront to you. It's just that you are starting to sound like an old NAG when it comes to films, tv shows and stories that aren't exactly to your taste. Take a breather, bro.

  • June 4, 2011, 11:10 p.m. CST

    @ geoffrey_fourmyle:

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You should give LOST a try. Start with Season 1...and try to avoid any and all spoilers. I started watching during Season 2...and I was quickly hooked. It is difficult to believe that something so daringly creative and imaginative (in a science fiction sense) was given such a big budget for TV! Give it a try. I really enjoyed the way that it started out...and a drama. However, it combined elements of drama, mystery, suspense, romance, science fiction, fantasy and adventure -- all in one show. It was interesting how the science fiction and fantasy elements slowly increased through the seasons. Season 1 started with a plane crash onto a mysterious island. The island was strange to say the least: It was inhabited by a mysterious creature that could knock down trees. A ship was found miles inland. People saw the dead walking around. A mysterious cable came out of the water and led into the jungle. A mysterious hatch was found in the jungle. More than anything, LOST was a character drama thrown into a fantasy/sci fi setting. It was about many different people who were metaphorically "lost" in their lives. There was a drug addict...a doctor...a con man...a fugitive...a one-hit abusive husband and his wife...a deadbeat dad and his son...a pregnant girl...two wealthy 20-somethings...a mysterious hunter...a crazy guy who won the lottery...amongst others. Over the seasons (and through flashbacks to their previous lives), LOST showed the development of those characters. It was strange, but the characters that you grew to hate one season were suddenly understood and even loved once you got to know what caused them to be the way that they were...and what they were becoming.

  • June 4, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST


    by jerseycajun

    I find it hard to understand a man picking apart the scenario of having a character in imminent peril (as opposed to distant peril) as being somehow inherently poor film-making technique. It's a scenario. It has been used with great success, limited success, and even times with little or no success. What determines how successful such scenes are has nothing to do with their inherent nature, but in the execution. Everybody knows in most films that the 'Good Guys' will come out alive in the end (anyone really think Hal Jordan is going to die in the upcoming Green Lantern film?), so it boils down to is how well a film-maker can override that part of our brain which knows that to make us question it anyway. That's the mark of a good action scene. That's not something you can get from a trailer. It, like the rest of the film has to be seen in context. Similarly, you can mask our disbelief of the survivability of such events with creative editing, shot selection, camera angle and staging. It's part of the art. Hell, more than half the stunts in "The Fugitive" were, charitably speaking, "highly unlikely to result in a living person", but that film succeeded at winning over its audience in spite of that. The film made you want to root for the protagonist, and so we suspend disbelief because we care. Now you can say that Abrahms didn't make you care enough to overlook improbabilities like that AFTER you've seen the whole move, but you can't say it with any kind of believable authority BEFORE you've seen it.

  • June 5, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Lost is the most fraudulent show in TV's history

    by Nabster

    Lost is the first show that used a reveal to unveil new mysteries. Usually a reveal, reveals part of the story or mystery, it gives an answer. Lost continued to build up a complex sci fi mystery and encouraged it's viewers to discuss this. Cotinued to build up mystery after mystery, leaving clues and hints everywhere. Only, by the last season it was extremely clear they had NO idea what they were doing. The amount of backtracking and retconning in the last season proves that they had not idea what they were doing, they never had. Unable to cope with all the random bullshit they had thrown into the story, they answers and conclusions they provided were laughable and idiotic. Half the final season of Lost is completely useless. Lost is the ultimate cocktease, the ultimate fraud in tv making.

  • June 5, 2011, 1:47 a.m. CST

    This sux... that sux.... So what's considered GOOD??

    by Robnhud

    With everyone saying Star Trek sucks or Mission Impossible 3 sucks etc etc.... if everything seems to suck, what would you all (not directed at any ONE person) consider to be the GOOD movies? Not trying to troll or anything, just curious.

  • June 5, 2011, 2:57 a.m. CST

    @ nabster :

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Your conclusion is stupid. You may not have liked the show...but many people did. Besides, your reasons for hating the show are incorrect. While the writers/producers/creators didn't know EVERYTHING that was going to happen -- they did know the beginning, the middle and the end. Matthew Fox stated this...and, after the show, he agreed that it stayed the course that he was told. Most fans rated the final season second only to the first season (and the polls were close). BTW, "chaos" can also be mathematically organized.

  • June 5, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST


    by riggs_and_murtaghs_love_child

    Jaws is not about a shark eating people, that part of the movie is secondary to the true heart of the film, the characters and how they interact and deal with the situation. It doesn't matter how it started out as, what matters is what it is. So how was Super 8? Oh right you didn't see it...yet you know how it is, just because you hate Abrams. You are amazing, it doesn't matter how good or bad the film truly is, your going to slam it regardless, because if you like it at all, and admit it, it makes you look like a complete fuckwad for all your constant bashing of a film you have yet to see. Oh I forgot, you already know how it is because you know what to expect from Abrams, as you say. Go ahead, say it... "If Super 8 is good I will be the first one to admit it, but it won't be so I don't have to worry about that" You won't admit it, no matter what. We all know that. I cannot remember the last time I saw anything but negativity from you. The only TB's I see you in are for Trek or Super 6. When was the last time you engaged in a TB that didn't involve you hating on something? Please let me know, because I don't see it.

  • ...The reason why I don't judge a film by the trailer, whether the trailer is awesome or poor, is because every single scene is out of context. A scene that may seem bad from the trailer may work perfectly well in the context of the film, likewise, a fantastic trailer does not a good film make. You said it yourself, in your experience there can often be brilliant trailers for bad films, Asi, the reverse can also be true. Man, I really think your clutching at straws at the moment, I understand why you have to because you haven't seen the film yet. I don't think you'd be going on and on like this, reviewing a movie by some other film maker based on the trailer alone. By all means Asimov, once you've seen the film come on back here and tell us what you thought of it, but you can't expect us to take your two minute trailer review as more of an indication of the quality of Super 8 than the dozens of positive reviews from people that have actually seen the whole thing. Your just wasting your breath man.

  • June 5, 2011, 8:47 a.m. CST


    by riggs_and_murtaghs_love_child

    Apparently, nothing is good other than the safe choices...Kubrick, Scorsese, Nolan, ect. This site is all about hate and bashing, the haters far outweigh the ones who try to look at things in a bit more of a positive light, the ones who try to give things a chance before declaring everything garbage.

  • June 5, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST


    by riggs_and_murtaghs_love_child

    Don't forget, all the critics who loved Super 8 are being paid off by the studios to praise anything with Abrams name on it, just like with Trek. It's all a conspiracy.

  • It's already been proven. They have done interviews with staff writers of Lost, like with David Fury in Playboy. And they all confirmed there was no plan. They made up as they went along, which isn't that bad. But when they opened new plots or mysteries they never decided what it meant, ever. The polar bears were originally robots. The final season was retconned itself. It was originally NOT going to be purgatory. But the writers had no way of reconciling the two universes, they had no idea how to make them coexist, so they just stupidly made one purgatory. In fact, they had no idea what to do with the sideways universe at all, which is why it was so dumb and bad. The Losties in the sideways universe were boring and retarded, there was no point in showing that at all. The final season and finale ruined Lost for most people. People are starting to realise the show was gimmick, nothing more, just a sham. We thought JJ Abrams, Lindeloff, and Cuse were geniuses, when in reality they're just dumb geeks. Retarded geeks, even.

  • June 5, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST


    by Subtitles_Off

    S#!t that was just alright thirty years ago is now back to be just alright for a whole new generation of dullards. I wouldn't wear my older brother's hand-me-downs. I don't expect today's kids to have to settle for hand-me-down GOONIES. "But, Oldy McOlderson, it's dark and scary this time! It's totally contemporary!" Been there. Done that. "Power of Friends, Family, Film activate! Form of Yawn."

  • And with those lines i stoped reading your post. If you want to caugh my attention with your argumentation, you should chose better words, friend.

  • And with those lines i stoped reading your post. If you want to caugh my attention with your argumentation, you should chose better words, friend.

  • And with those lines i stoped reading your post. If you want to caugh my attention with your argumentation, you should chose better words, friend.

  • June 5, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Is the alien Deep Roy in a cheap rubber mask again?

    by UltraTron

    That would be really cool. There's nothing better onscreen than midgets in cheap rubber masks.

  • June 5, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    @by geoffrey_fourmyle Don't you dare watch Lost you SOB

    by Nabster

    Lost is an empty mystery box. Everything Abrams makes is an empty mystery box. Alias, Lost, Star Trek, they are all tricks. Lost is a complete waste of time. Trust me, I'm doing you a favor. Everyone hates it.

  • June 5, 2011, 5:01 p.m. CST

    The name Assimovlives....

    by Sicuv Uyall

    suggest that you actually have a life. Why do you spend so much energy on hating on someone? The term "hater" refers to people who spend all their time on harboring and creating animosity towards a person or group of people. Unless Abrams has killed your parents or caused you to lose your job, there really is no reason for you spend so much of your life writing comments and responding to replies concerning your hatred towards someone who creates fantasy (not real-life) scenarios. But you probably enjoy making anonymous statements that create a stir so that you get responses, therefore attracting attention that you so much lack in real life. Ask yourself if your passion is really for art, or is it just for talking shit. You'll probably respond to this, but I gave my diagnosis and have nothing else to say to you no matter what verbal crap you spew out. I hate Lucas and everything he's done lately, but I don't troll his stories and bag on every fanboy Lucas suck up out there.

  • And with those lines i stoped reading your post there and then. If you want to caugh my attention, chose better words, friend.

  • June 5, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    My experience tells me that any bad scene from a trailer is even worst in a movie. And the stupid trainwreck scene of Super 8 is a clear example of that. If anything, that shit will look even worst in the bloody movie. We will speak of it later, after we both watch the movie (which i might not so soon). OK, champ?

  • June 5, 2011, 5:19 p.m. CST

    As for the positive reivews of Super 8, freebeer...

    by AsimovLives

    ... i'm reminded of the positive reviews from Abrams Trek, that piss of shit movie. Nah, i'm burned on that regard, friend. Positive reviews of Super 8 as of any endenvour from JJ Abrams are tainted, my friend. It's not from there you will convince me of anything, friend. You know why.

  • June 5, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    "Jaws is not about a shark eating people, that part of the movie is secondary to the true heart of the film, the characters and how they interact and deal with the situation." It is about a about a shark eating movie, with good drama in it. And hat'a wrong with that? You belittle the movie by thinking otherwise. You thinkthe movie is belittled because it's a monters mvoie with good drama? That's pretentious talk, the kind you so despise. JJ Abrams can tell the bullshit he likes to capture the loyalty of the geekry, but he tells lies and deceptions, deliberatly honeyed to the geekry ears. I'm into his game, and that cocksucker deceived me none. Never more.

  • June 5, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    "but there are a lot worse filmakers than Abram's, A LOT WORSE"

    by AsimovLives

    What? Michael Bay, Uwe Boll and Roland Emmeich? That's not a lot, that's just 3. Barely counts as few, much less lots. Even that fucking cunt Paul WC Anderson, who i despise, rates higher then Abrams the fake ass fraud.

  • June 5, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST

    I never met him or spoke to him either...

    by BBSloth


  • Really Asi? Really? You only acknowledge these three guys as being the only directors of film EVER to be worse than Abrams? Really? I gotta believe YOU don't really believe that, or else you don't know no nearly as much about film as I thought you did. I'm not going to make a list, because there are too fucking many to list. Really? Really? You're serious? Man, your blinded by hate, that's all I'll say

  • ...You're contradicting yourself Asi, you said, YOU said, basically, that a trailer is no indicator of a films quality, yet you for some reason make an exception in Abram's case? And again, again you don't understand what I'm saying, or don't care to read those comments posted by those with opposing views properly before going on the defensive. I was trying to say, that I will take all those positive reviews of a full feature film over your bitter review of a two minute trailer any day of the week. Those reviews may lead me astray, but at least they are based on something, these guys actually, you know, saw the damn thing. I wasn't saying their words are gospel, just more valid than your baseless rants. If you had seen the film ,then of course your review would mean just as much as those of others, but since you haven't, they warrant more consideration. And, I resent this..."We will speak of it later, after we both watch the movie (which i might not so soon). OK, champ?", implying that I am standing on the "Super 8 will be awesome" side of the battlefield. I'm not. I've told you, time and again, I'm not even a fan of Abrams, my comments have noting to do with me defending Super 8, it might well be shit. You could be ranting like this about any film, even a film I also hate, and I'd still take issue with your comments. My comments are directed purely at you Asi, at your attitude as a talkbacker. I'm not jumping to the defense of this film I haven't seen, like you're jumping to attack it, I'm merely wondering why a guy who appears smart, intelligent, and appears to have a broad knowledge and love of film would keep wasting so much time and energy snarling at and spewing venom at one particular filmmaker, who really is no worse than many others, (sorry, if you disagree, you are wrong) and anyone who dares to say the like his work, or even say they neither like him or hate him. And you didn't answer my question, I wasn't asking why you hate Abrams, GOD KNOWS we got that, I was asking why single him out. WHY SINGLE HIM OUT? So many shit movies out there man, move the fuck on, and, believe it or not, I saying this as someone who actually likes you. I think you're knowledgable and have worthwhile discussions about film when you can drag yourself away from this crazy Abram's hatred.

  • ...because you just get defensive and, perhaps unknowingly, aggressive. Will talk to you on any other topic friend, but not this one. Check you later

  • June 5, 2011, 10:30 p.m. CST

    I have never understood the love Abrams receives but...

    by slappy jones

    I saw this yesterday and its great. Doesn't really need the alien story that is the weakest stuff in the film but everything else is great. The kids are very good and Elle Fanning is amazing. Could have done with more Kyle chandler but then so could every film ever made so some is better then none. And it has the best closing credits in years so don't be to hasty in leaving the theatre.

  • June 5, 2011, 10:33 p.m. CST


    by slappy jones

    You see plenty of action.

  • They never are. I'd actually really love to see a monster movie that's just focused on the monster, that's purely about tension and mystery. I guess Predator sorta counts, but as awesome as that is I'm thinking more in the vein of Super 8. OR... a human drama that becomes a creature feature a la Psycho switching from an embezzlement story to, you know. Not that I don't want to see Super 8. But saying the above kinda shit is pretty cliche. "It's not really about the monster, it's about human dynamics!" Yeah, never heard THAT one before Caponey. I wonder how you reviewed Signs... hmm... (and I LOVE Signs, mind you, despite the dumb as fuck ending, so I'm not saying I have a problem with these types of movies). I mean, it's okay for action movies to just be dumb action movies. How about a creature feature that's truly first and foremost a creature feature, something that takes itself seriously and builds fucking tension from the get-go and has a pay-off for it.

  • How exactly was 2009's Star Trek a... you know what. Nevermind.

  • June 6, 2011, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Just saw the commercial for "Larry Crowne".

    by the big poo

    Tom Hanks+Julia Roberts+moped=funniest movie of summer...

  • June 6, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST

    *raises hand*

    by the big poo

    I actually AM impressed by geoffrey_fourmyle's small pink cock. Sorry, I don't get out much.

  • Please choke on the nearest doorknob and let the rest of the sane world continue without your pompous changes NOTHING and means NOTHING

  • thats how i learnt to like his better work...i still dont like everything he does but to dismiss his work like that dribbling pretentious twat Asshole is an utter mistake

  • He has given many talks about making 'mystery box' entertainment. The problem is, these mysteries may be well presented but they are empty. Always empty. Lost is the best example of all these fraudulent ways. Lost is a show that built up mystery after mystery, encouraged viewers to spend lots of time analyzing and discussing these mysteries, only to say "fuck you, there is no mystery, this is a character show you piece of shit." JJ Abrams is basically the Bernie Madoff of entertainment.

  • June 6, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Chris Carter did that years before Abrams nabster...

    by FreeBeer

    ...Still hurting how he ran that show into the ground

  • June 6, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Asimovlives, the little bitch

    by Shaner Jedi

    rants on and on.

  • June 6, 2011, 11:28 a.m. CST

    And asimov may still live

    by Shaner Jedi

    but he sure as hell isn't in you, either in spirit or mind.

  • I couldn't help but jump on the "scratching my head over Asimovlives' statements" bus. My friend, you are evidently an intelligent fellow and a studied fan of film, movies, cinema. But stating that Abrams is a worse filmmaker than Paul WS Anderson is REALLY stretching a point.

  • doesn't stop him being an infantile whining cunt

  • June 7, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST

    freebeer and all others

    by AsimovLives

    On the subject of Abrams in regard to Abrams Trek, yes i'm serious, only Boll, Bay and Emmerich have made movies which i can count as worst then the aforementioned Abrams Trek. But this is not the real reason for this post. The real reason is as follow: Many of you guys have asked me why i can't have a positive opinion of the movie-to-be Super 8. Or as you call it, why can't i just cool it and hope for the best. But what you are aslking is something that's pretty word for me, as i'll explain why. My attitude toward any new movie is always what can best be described as cautious. Even on the movies that i'm eager to see, or that caught my attention and good hopes, i'm always cautious with a a bit of skepticism for flavour. The most optimistic attitude i have is what i call cautious optimism. And I reserve that ONLY for filmmakers which i have a lot of trust. And i'm too well aware they can fuck up, as any filmmaker is bound to do because they are humans. Suffice to say, i have no trust on Abrams. I have nothing but despise and contempt for him. So, with that, you can now understand how alien it is for me to have an optimistic or good will attitude to any movie (or TV show for that matter) with his participation. I hope this was informative. And freebeer, one of the pleausres of this talkback was to learn that, regardless of our opinions, you are a guy i can talk to. You remind me of such other fellows as Mattman and SouthAfricanGuy and Stalkeye to name a few, guys who, despiste our differences, we can have great chats with. And unlike that quantize humunculus, who obviously skipped a class about human relations.

  • June 7, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    shaner jedi

    by AsimovLives

    In what give you an idea, thanks to my nick, that presume myself to be the enbodiment of Isaac Asimov's legacy? Are you mad? Should i think, form your nick, that you believe yourself to be William Shatner as a Jedi? That post above was you just being a smart-ass, with ill results.

  • ...Look forward to meeting you again in a future talk back, perhaps one concerning a film we can both agree is going to be awesome

  • June 7, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Freebeer, Chris Carter was not as bad as JJ Abrams

    by Nabster

    because X Files was not a serialised show. Very little of X-files serviced the core mythology, the core mystery. So an empty mystery box wasn't such a big deal since that's not what the show was mostly about. While Lost was a completely about the core mythology, which the creators did everything to encourage viewers to discuss this mystery. To analyse this mystery, both directly through interviews and indirectly with hints and homages on the show. Never before in the history of television has such a massive fraud been perpetrated until Lost.