So What Does Vin Diesel Gotta Do To Bring Us An 'R' Rated RIDDICK Movie??
Via his official Facebook profile, Vin Diesel brings news that the next RIDDICK movie is now extremely close to moving forward - with one hitch. Diesel and returning writer/director David Twohy have repeatedly voiced their firm commitment to making this third installment an "R rated" adventure, but it now seems doing so will necessitate a degree of sacrifice from Mr. Diesel.
Per Vin through his Facebook post...
Given the recent and gargantuan success of FAST FIVE (over $512 million globally and counting - and isn't RIDDICK also at Universal?), it's a safe bet Team Diesel will find a way to leverage a few more goodies out of such an arrangement. It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds. More as we know more...
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May 24, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST
May 24, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST
! my first first
May 24, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST
this could be a cool project if they let it run its course naturally
May 24, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST
I don't really care about the Riddick movies but it's nice to see that this guy has integrity about what he wants made.
May 24, 2011, 7:41 p.m. CST
He just made them a ton of money.
May 24, 2011, 7:57 p.m. CST
I like Vin, but only the very rich even think things like that.
May 24, 2011, 8:05 p.m. CST
Name me another original movie badass in the past decade that comes close? I suppose Jack Sparrow might be up there if you discount the sequels... Jason Bourne? bleh. Frank Martin (Jason Statham's character in the Transporter movies)??
May 24, 2011, 8:07 p.m. CST
suck it, Vin
May 24, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST
You say "I'm taking a massive pay cut, so, please give Riddick another chance.". Works for me.
May 24, 2011, 8:39 p.m. CST
I for one, and maybe the only one, saw some potential in the Chronicles of Riddick. They had places to go with the furyan storyline, underverse, elementals etc...but they PG-13'd it up and setup a sequel for failure, with an ending that basically would only work if the thing had made money. That being said, I'd love a return to R- rated Riddick, but I really hope they dont discount what happened in Chronicles, if for anything just to wrap up loose ends in a constructive and realistic manner that fits the story. Fingers crossed.
May 24, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST
I wonder if either will ever be made.
May 24, 2011, 8:47 p.m. CST
It was a monster movie with good pace and very solid characters ... get that combination right and you have quality. Giving Riddick some universe spanning destiny was fucking wrong ... Get him back into an intense smaller story and I'm all for this.
May 24, 2011, 8:51 p.m. CST
I understand what he's saying overall but what does that mean?
May 24, 2011, 8:51 p.m. CST
May 24, 2011, 8:55 p.m. CST
I can't imagine more than about 12 people paying to see this movie.
May 24, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST
In this world of endless remakes with actors pretending to be the original character, it's nice to see a refreshing and original character for a change. Bring Riddick back and don't skimp on the bad-assedness.
May 24, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST
CoR is underrated and a great set-up for a sequel. Hopefully they stick with that storyline.
May 24, 2011, 9:18 p.m. CST
What is this fox news? He left it up to his facebook fans to decide.
May 24, 2011, 9:20 p.m. CST
Try as he might, it never achieved that level, but hopefully soon.
May 24, 2011, 9:25 p.m. CST
just edit the fu7cker down to PG-13 and release it on video unrated like they did the last fuckin' time! What's Vin's salary got to do with the fucking rating? The main reason people will go see it is because of him so it seems pretty fucked up to make him pay for the fuckin' film!
May 24, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST
by Adelai Niska
I kind of hated how they made him the last of his race AND the chosen one, etc. Riddick is Boba Fett, not Luke Skywalker.
May 24, 2011, 9:30 p.m. CST
Show us his awesome behind?
May 24, 2011, 9:37 p.m. CST
Its pretty awesome.
May 24, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST
May 24, 2011, 10:07 p.m. CST
like how Chronicles was. Sure you won't be able to see the full awesome version on the big screen but widescreen and hd is fine with me at home.
May 24, 2011, 10:07 p.m. CST
Would be a cool movie or Should be the opening or the whole film.... or I hope they plan it as 2 films... The 1st being like the PITCH BLACK and BUTCHER BAY with the second like the second or type of film...
May 24, 2011, 10:18 p.m. CST
I read this when he first posted it, and instead of saying he will "work for scale..." he said he must "basically work for free." I get that scale is less than his usually pay, but there are tons of actors out there that would gladly take a job for "scale."
May 24, 2011, 10:34 p.m. CST
May 24, 2011, 10:42 p.m. CST
Why not have a clause that based on how successful the film turns out, he'll get more money? Loved Pitch Black and Chronicles! Want to see more! An hard-R is how it should be!
May 24, 2011, 11:02 p.m. CST
by ames prather
I have no doubt that if Mr. Diesel does this he'll have ALL KINDS of back-end bonuses based on the gross of the movie. Lots of actors work for less than their asking price up front, and then rake in the cash on gross and video sales. Don't be fooled into thinking this is completely altruistic, it's a bit of a gamble, but only a small one. ??Pseudo?? Out.
May 24, 2011, 11:02 p.m. CST
I never saw the Chronicles movie though. It looked overblown and I don't get why Riddick is now being shown as an epic hero character? It'd be like following up Alien by revealing how Ripley was actually some sort of destined savior of the universe with special powers. I'd much rather they made more stand-alone adventures of plain old criminal badass Riddick as a Snake Plissken type.
May 24, 2011, 11:04 p.m. CST
Are you making riddick or good fellas 2
May 24, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST
He said "original movie badass" - Blade is not an original movie creation, he's a comic book character.
May 24, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST
Never thought Vin was much of an 'artist' but his statement rings true, money is meaningless, art lasts forever
May 24, 2011, 11:18 p.m. CST
Geez. Suck it up, princess. I generally like Vin, but it's a bit much. On his facebook page he routinely professes 'Us' and 'We' and 'Our' with his statements, always going on about peace and love and the goodness in all of us. He is a very positive guy. You know, it would be pretty funny if Vin Diesel was actually the second coming of Christ. But anyway, Vin. Just take the cut and make the film. You are central to a mind-bogglingly successful franchise, and in it's fifth installment, it has never been more popular. I think you can take a breather on being paid millions of dollars, consider it an investment opportunity. Remember, geeks are for life. There are still people going on about CHRONICLES like it was worth a damn. I'm not super bent on this happening. If it does, I'll watch it -- mostly because I've liked every Twohy film I've seen, and I want someone to make a movie for grown-ups, like the South Park guys made a musical -- all in. Just go for it. I still have my fingers crossed that CONAN is going to be badass. But that's what I want -- something truly badass that doesn't have to turn b*d*ss to justify it's existence. I think a new, capital-R RIDDICK would be refreshing in today's theatre. If the global market loves Vin as much as it does Milla it will probably do pretty well.
May 24, 2011, 11:24 p.m. CST
May 24, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST
So don't cry for him.
May 24, 2011, 11:34 p.m. CST
Working for scale as the lead in a major studio picture is still more money than most here will see in a year
It's not like the guy is working for minimum wage here. Plus his percentage would be mighty tasty indeed if the film was in any way a hit. Plus even if the film bombed, it's not like Diesel doesn't get enough other work so continue with the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed. I mean Hell, he already has another F+F lined up, just for starters. So stop with the woe is me crocodile tears Diesel. If you truly do believe in the film and character like you say you do then just suck it up and do it already. And if it's actually good enough, and everything that you promised it would be, then your back end deal will have you sitting plenty pretty in the long term anyway.
May 24, 2011, 11:36 p.m. CST
What, so he would have to defer his salary and take points instead? I've got a lot of time for Vin Diesel, and I hope he does well, but I'm afraid I can't work up a lot of sympathy for him on this one. Is his operation so extensive that no upfront fee would be a noticeable hardship? Will he have to let the people at his production shingle go if he doesn't get his quote, for example? If so, why not frame it that way? I'd happily accept a PG-13 Riddick movie if it'll save some jobs...
May 25, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST
Im talking about Iron Giant of course, other then that his career is as pretentious as he is.
May 25, 2011, 1:06 a.m. CST
You know he can't wait to get back into it. He's just showing us that he will do it for the least amount of money legally payable in SAG. Man been a long time coming... Lets see some Furyan fancy one more time...
May 25, 2011, 1:30 a.m. CST
Vin Diesel making Riddick for $7.25 an hour!
May 25, 2011, 1:41 a.m. CST
Hope this kicks some serious ass.
May 25, 2011, 2:20 a.m. CST
I really enjoyed both movies. I hope they don't toss the story line they started with CoR aside. I'd love to see Riddick descend into the Underverse.
May 25, 2011, 2:36 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
"Yeah, I just want to make a crazy violent science fiction, I don't care about the money! Anybody wants to play Dungeons and Dragons with me on the set? Vroom, Car!"
May 25, 2011, 2:38 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
Even if I'm not crazy about Riddick or the Fast movies.
May 25, 2011, 2:50 a.m. CST
Who is seriously pining for this? I'm not!
May 25, 2011, 3:24 a.m. CST
Bruce did this type of shit all the time. Simply work for scale with the conditional that if the movie succeeds on the backend with triggers, you get your cut first and its bigger than what you would have initially asked. Done. Heck, Bruce didn't even get paid for 12 Monkeys until after it was made and released. If you really believe in the movie and the R-rating is gonna help, its a win/win. You're basically looking at the Resident Evil model and a budget ~$60 mil(if you're even thinking its gonna be like $150+.. don't.. this isn't Transformers.. heck Fast Five was $125 mil budget). If it breaks $100 mil(worldwide) then Vin gets paid asking price - what he received for scale. Just make sure its all crystal clear in nice lawyerly print and what not on what its based on and how much the check is for if the escalator is made. Heck, these days a spec effects film has to try really, *REALLY* hard not to break $100 mil worldwide(and having Vin Diesel helps), and often goes far higher(Resident Evil pulled $300 mil or 5 times budget).
May 25, 2011, 3:59 a.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
Actors are unionized, scale is the minimum wage set by the union, not the minimum wage. Quick google search shows Vin would be looking at something like $700-$800 per day.
May 25, 2011, 4:01 a.m. CST
Leave it to that douchebag Merrick to leave out half of it. To find the whole story, head over to collider.com. I respect that VD involves his fans in his decisions.
May 25, 2011, 4:06 a.m. CST
Marvel comic book dar! Also, escape from butcher bay for xbox was one of the most badass, underrated video games of all time. Awesome gaming experience. Put riddick in a prison and watch him try to escape sounds like movie magic to me. The game was adult rated, the movie should be r. Riddick has to be R rated
May 25, 2011, 5:03 a.m. CST
This was the mistake with Riddick anyway. I enjoyed it but it was let's face it overblown cheese. It was a vanity progect from both director and actor and it had none of the charm and power of Pitch Black.
May 25, 2011, 5:06 a.m. CST
Pitch Black was great as much as Riddick was shit. It has the same logic behind Highlander 1 and 2. 1 st movie should and could not have a sequel but studios did it anyway. The outcome was pure crap. Total crap. Unwatchable crap. And 3rd Highlander was equally crap. That's why the world doesn't need a 3rd Riddick.
May 25, 2011, 5:49 a.m. CST
After the shit that the last Riddick movie was, putting his bets on the success of this one is a bit of a risk. I figure "scale up front" probably actually means he doesn't get any points until the film breaks $100M domestic.
May 25, 2011, 6:16 a.m. CST
certain characters spit on the ground when they speak his name? Well me and my mate thought that film was so shit that whenever its referenced we spit in the same way. So not too bothered about a part 3. I do love how Diesel talks up his films like he's making high art though
May 25, 2011, 6:32 a.m. CST
g00mp has it precisely wrong. It isn't "only the very rich" who put art above money. Usually it is the other way around--poor artists put art above money, which is one of the reasons they remain poor. People with money generally have prioritized money as a value, or at least a valuable way of keeping track. It is rare to find someone very wealthy who will even talk that way. They are corporations, with employees to support, and need to keep the cash coming. While it isn't a sacrifice to work for scale, it is indeed a gamble. I'm happy with Vin for sticking to his guns. PG-13 movies have a feel to them, and "gritty" they aren't. You can't have the casual sex and nudity, the language, the blood and gore. There is almost no real sense of unease because you KNOW that the filmmakers aren't going to put something extreme on screen unexpectedly, something that might cause you to turn away. You are safe. "Taken" was intense, but can you imagine how much more intense it would have been if his daughter was naked, threatened with rape by hairy, naked thugs, with girls who'd been raped and half-dismembered strewn around her. Shit, THAT would have been almost unbearably tense, and they couldn't even begin to go there. So...congrats to Diesel.
May 25, 2011, 6:32 a.m. CST
Enjoyed the hokey sequel, but want a meaner, edgier return to the 'Lobo' styled badassery and vibe of Pitch Black. Looking forward to seeing if this pans out into something as good as the original.
May 25, 2011, 7:25 a.m. CST
The reason I think a Riddick movie needs to be R is not so much the violence and gore, although that is a great bonus, but the language. Watch Pitch Black, Riddick is not a saint and has a hell of a potty mouth. To me taking that part of the character away is hurting the character himself. It's a sanitized Riddick in much the same way John McClain didn't feel like himself in Live Free or Die Soft. So in my opinion the movie needs to be R to allow the Riddick character the freedom he needs to be himself.
May 25, 2011, 7:46 a.m. CST
May 25, 2011, 8:11 a.m. CST
How can you hate this guy? Seriously.
May 25, 2011, 8:19 a.m. CST
Awesome. Riddick movies are not high art, but good sci-fi and the only redeeming thing Vin has ever done.
May 25, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST
loved that movie. some of the names a bit silly but the sets, the scale, all worked for me. and i dunno why, but i really really dug thandie newton in that movie, she was off the scale hot and slinky. liked karl urban too, but for different reasons. diesel has his character pegged, bring back the mercenaries. really excited for number 3.
May 25, 2011, 8:50 a.m. CST
get a grip vin.
May 25, 2011, 9:21 a.m. CST
"Hey Corporal, drop dead! And another thing, every time you salute the Captain, you make him a target for the Germans. Do us a favor. Don't do it. Especially when I'm standing next to him, capisci?"
May 25, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST
Okay. I stand corrected.
May 25, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST
but after making multiple movies and getting paid upwards of 10 million each, you'd think the dude could rock 2 months of work for a little less without bitching - especially since it's the character that made him able to command so much. Sure, it's probably cutting into his hooker and blow funds (I just assume, because he's an actor), but stilllll
May 25, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST
Back when Vin Diesel first had success with "Pitch Black', the original "The Fast & the Furious" and "XXX", then had the right to be a major asshole. However, after a series of box office failures, like "The Chronicles of Riddick", he lost that right. He was forced to become like a normal person, until he received box office success again with "Fast & Furious" and now "Fast Five". Now he is back to full fledged asshole status, and he can get another Riddick movie made.
May 25, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST
by Cameron Harrison
I don't know if I "loved" Riddick...but I liked it alot and loved the potential. We haven't seen a truly epic and dark space opera in some time...and Riddick really is a great character.
May 25, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST
Hopefully the proposed sequel will return the original vibe of the first Riddick film, cause Chronicles was pretentuous due to making an attempt at being some epic feature. (more like epic failure.) The Necromongers was a cool concept but fucking wasted and the scene in which Riddick uses his Furian "Powers" made for an underperforming Money shot. And very unimpressive. I did however liked bounty hunter Toombs who came off as another wasted opportunity somewhat.(In one of the deleted scenes, he was killed off.)And there's(the legendary) keith David who looked as if he was slumming through his 20 minutes of screen time. To kill Imam/David off so quickly didn't help to get a shocking reaction nor did it help the story any further. And speaking of story, the damn story had that poor pacing during the tour-de-force scenes and the score was over the top. (Where's James Horner when you need him?) I love the idea of the new sequel, being left for dead on an isolate planet while fighting off both aliens and bounty hunters.Note to Universal: Just give diesel what he wants and make this fucking film, it has money making/BO returns potentual.
May 25, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST
May 25, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST
As I'm typing this there's a copy of the Vin Diesel directed and starring movie Strays in front of me (not in a dvd cover but a clear plastic slip case from a now out of business blockbuster). I like Vin and he tried to go the high road with Find Me Guilty (which we have, and I was pleasantly surprised little person Peter Dinklage was prominently featured as a lawer, idk if there was a little person lawyer during the real trial) but now he's trying to go pop again which is all good to me. Rather see him try to be the big action guy again that arnold; not because of the scandal but because it's time for that dude to hang it up. Maybe after all is said and done Vin can *try* to be like Clint Eastwood and direct some great movies, but in the meanwhile I think he's going to try to grab the crown that could've been his a decade ago.
May 25, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST
I'd like that, sir, very much so.
May 25, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST
but what is so bad about Diesel being a geek or gay? He is an actor, he only has to play a badass in the movies. I for one think its cool that he's a D&D geek.
May 25, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST
May 25, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST
I loved Pitch Black, but that second one was godawful. Diesel wasn't the best part of the first, and it didn't need to spin off to anywhere. It was a neat, fun film that was perfectly self-enclosed.
May 25, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST
He might or might not be bi. Don't know. But about two years ago I was at his house in the Hollywood Hills in connection with a project he was trying to get going. And I met his baby momma, a fucking GORGEOUS Maya lady who made a mean guacamole. He keeps her totally out of the public eye, and could care less what people think. But trust me, he digs women.
May 25, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST
The Baby Oil Abs Buddies!
May 25, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST
My respect for him will raise considerably. And i already like the dude.
May 25, 2011, 4:56 p.m. CST
A great way to make money, dude!
May 25, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST
What is the magic in turning a film R rated? Does that mean instant better movie? So an addition of F-bombs and scantilly clad babes mean quality product? If so, just buy a Hip Hop album....why bother with Sci-Fi?
May 25, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST
So, yeah, I don't care if Vin is gayer than Rip Taylor, he's aces in my book if R3 happens and it's rated R.
May 25, 2011, 6:08 p.m. CST
In a weird way: Pitch Black - badass, very original Escape from Butcher Bay - a game that gave us more insight into Riddick, and became an even better delivery method of putting us into his universe Dark Anita - not as good as the first game but a decent extension CoR - good, not great, but enough to be enjoyable, love the set pieces
May 25, 2011, 8:23 p.m. CST
by Orbots Commander
They totally went the wrong way with the Riddick character and made this overblown sequel where Riddick was the savior of the universe on a classic hero's journey, when, going off of the same character in Pitch Black, that's not the character at all. He's essentially a minor version of Depp's Jack Sparrow. He's a leading *supporting* character who facilitates other heroes' journies. He's supposed to a bad-ass, mercenary, anti-hero, who ends up doing the right thing only because it's in his self-interest to do so.
May 25, 2011, 11:51 p.m. CST
bloated vin diesels have arrived in full force
May 26, 2011, 6:16 a.m. CST
May 26, 2011, 7:23 a.m. CST
I think Chronicles of Riddick was underrated. It could have worked if they just made a few changes. It had the potential to be a good story. Unforunately, it didn't work out and it mostly sucked, but it had some good moments. BTW, I think Vin Diesel is a major asshole, and an average actor at best, but so are most of the other actors in Hollywood. The one thing that I like about Vin is that he likes D & D, so he has some redeeming value to him.
May 26, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST
How the studios fucked up the concept/premise like Riddick, boggles my mind to no end. And the fact that said character has so much potentual only to be wasted in a sequel is proof that Vin fell asleep at the wheel. Here's hoping the new sequel will make up for the underwhelming CoR.
May 26, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST
by El Cimarron
as per every single Riddick post i see here, i must reiterate that TOOMBS needs to come back to hunt riddick. hell, have a scene of Cole Hauser and Toombs set before the events of Pitch Black. that would be awesome.
May 26, 2011, 4:57 p.m. CST
Make it lean, dirty and nasty like the original. Then we have a winner.
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