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John Carter of Mars now just John Carter? Really?

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. In a decision that reeks of clueless executive meddling, it seems that the Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptation John Carter of Mars is now going just by the name John Carter.

Really? So you take a title that has survived decades of pop culture relevance and reduce it so it sounds like a single dad movie starring Tom Hanks?

The title was already compromised to begin with, being that they chose John Carter of Mars over A Princess of Mars, but at least I see the reasoning behind that. The movie is about John Carter, not Dejah Thoris and it's hopefully setting up a big franchise with John Carter.

I get having his name be prominent and hell, one of the books was called John Carter of Mars. So that wasn't a huge deal, but taking it back even further kind of pisses me off. Where's the commitment to the sci-fi spectacle? This smells like marketing execs are getting cold feet because their shitty animated movie had "Mars" in the title and flopped. You know why that movie flopped? Because the trailers look like bottom of the barrel horrible trash.

I'm sure Disney's marketing machine will get behind John Carter in a big way when the time comes, but this drastic step really makes me worried this film is going to be committeed to death by the time it hits screens.

The Film Stage was the first to break this, I believe. (UPDATE: Nope, it was Dark Horizons) So, good on them for the snooping. Hopefully Disney comes to their senses before they start their massive campaign.

 

 

What do you folks think?

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  • May 23, 2011, 6:08 p.m. CST

    FIST!

    by George Newman

    to your face

  • May 23, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Second...and that's pretty stupid

    by ajt2111

    Fucking movie execs

  • May 23, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST

    FIST

    by ajt2111

    To your asshole...wait, what?

  • May 23, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Besides that title desicion being completely rediculous...

    by Kirbymanly

    I also think it was foolish to not cast Diora Baird as Dejah. They's ain't gettin' my money.

  • May 23, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST

    HMN.

    by Casey4147

    I'll go with this only if a subtitle is involved. "John Carter and A Princess of Mars". That'd make sense, eh? (In exactly the way "John Carter: A Princess of Mars" doesn't...)

  • I hope that they're not afraid of some association with the flop Mars Needs Moms, or that they reason that the word "Mars" is just poison in general.

  • May 23, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    They'll change it before release...again

    by mackmm

    Title says nothing Disney is all about branding. If I'm going into a movie just called John Carter , probably thinking it's a big-screen adaption of ER

  • John Carter of Mars is a fantastical sci-fi property, and it has mild sexual elements. That kind of thing didn't play over too well at the box office for Sucker Punch. I'm surprised this property is even with Disney.

  • May 23, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST

    I guarantee

    by Thall_Joben

    It'll read 'JOHN CARTER' - with 'Princess of Mars' as a secondary title. They're just setting things up for the sequels that they obviously plan to get around to.

  • May 23, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Fisted

    by donkingkong

  • May 23, 2011, 6:23 p.m. CST

    "JOHN CARTER: Princess of Mars"

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    So the princess of Mars is named John Carter?

  • May 23, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Suits...

    by QuietMan297

    ...should all be prison-raped. Regularly.

  • May 23, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    We've watched this project completely disintegrate over the years.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

  • May 23, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Holy shit, that looks like AVATAR!

    by D.Vader

    What a ripoff!

  • May 23, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST

    this wnt stick. It''ll be John Carter Of Mars for the release.

    by Monolith_Jones

  • May 23, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Does this movie star Noah Wyle?

    by TheSeeker7

    err.. em.. get it? cause ya know, like Wyle played John Carter on ER for a bazillion years... umm... get it... ?

  • Although it would also help John Carter if they can just avoid using AWFUL 90'S-STYLE WHITE GUY RAP SONGS ABOUT THE MOVIE like they had in commercials for Mars Needs Moms.

  • The Bear and the Bow became the generic Brave, The Frog Princess became the lame Princess and the Frog, and Rapunzel became...gag...Tangled. The simple truth is Disney has idiots who don't know what good titles sound like. This isn't going to change, they have ruined the title to John Carter of Mars, and that's the end of it. I suspect this is the compromise to avoid even worse changes that were requested. It's awful. Disney has not gotten better since the Pixar merger. Actually with Cars 2 coming out, I think Pixar has gotten worse!

  • There you go, that should give the bean counters a hard on for sure.

  • May 23, 2011, 6:41 p.m. CST

    what do i think?

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    I think that picture is hideous

  • May 23, 2011, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Come to think of it..

    by punchydugan

    Buck Rogers in the 25th Century was a dopey name for a comic strip/movie and Indiana Jones would have been a much better title than the lame Raiders of the Lost Ark.

  • May 23, 2011, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Disney is run by monkeys flinging poo...

    by alienindisguise

    none of their stupid decisions surprise me.

  • May 23, 2011, 7:14 p.m. CST

    This Sucks

    by Iahael

    This Sucks. No further comment. T.'.

  • May 23, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    "Of Mars" is likely to alienate audiences...

    by StarWarsRedux

    ...but having a movie about a Confederate soldier isn't?

  • May 23, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Why that hideous Joe Jusko illo?

    by Gabe Athouse

    You could have used Frank Frazetta or Michael Whelan and you go with the Joe Jusko? Quint, what's wrong with you.

  • May 23, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    this is retarded

    by lv_426

    Renaming it John Carter is equivalent to renaming The War of the Worlds to just The War. And yes, dumbasses will say it is a ripoff of Avatar.

  • May 23, 2011, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Stupid, pointless, fuckery...

    by ClaireRedfield

    Adaptations almost always degrade into this. This one just got started early. Bad news assholes, but in your rush to fuck this up, your breaking your own shitty Hollywood rules: Branding is everything. You think the yokels are gonna come out to see a movie with just a name for a title? Nah, you gotta catch their attention. "John Carter" won't cut it.

  • May 23, 2011, 7:32 p.m. CST

    puunchydugan

    by one9deuce

    You think RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK is a bad title? You're either 12 or a studio exec. Not that there's any difference in film taste between those two.

  • May 23, 2011, 7:39 p.m. CST

    They just don't understand

    by captzeep

    what people outside the big yuppie cities want to see. It's run by business types who don't understand ordinary people at all; if it was run by creative types they might understand ordinary people *a little* and why Edgar Rice Burroughs was popular. Speaking of early 20th Century fantasy writers, what the hell ever happened with "Solomon Kane"? Did that ever even come out?

  • May 23, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Mars follows Venus ...

    by berserkrl

    into the trashcan. Remember when the PIRATES OF VENUS movie (still supposedly in development -- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1337098/ ) became CARSON NAPIER?

  • May 23, 2011, 7:48 p.m. CST

    John Carter: Mars Rising?

    by redkamel

  • May 23, 2011, 7:48 p.m. CST

    captzeep

    by Gabe Athouse

    I guess you ordinary salt-of-the-earth types have never heard of imdb.com. Let us help. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0970452/

  • Decided to rename "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" to "Bladerunner" to cash in on the Star Wars craze. Wankers!

  • May 23, 2011, 8 p.m. CST

    Don't fucking care, as long as the Movie's good.

    by Hesiod2k7

    Would anyone give a shit if "Flash Gordon" were renamed "Flash Gordon on the Planet Mongo?" I didn't think so.

  • May 23, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    U can buy the Frazetta Martian Long Sword

    by Hesiod2k7

    http://filmswords.com/frazetta/martian-longsword.htm

  • May 23, 2011, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Ok, I'll play. "Gone with the Wind" is renamed "Gone!"

    by Hesiod2k7

    "To Kill a Mockingbird" is renamed "Kill!" "One flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" is renamed "Flew!"

  • May 23, 2011, 8:31 p.m. CST

    I also diagree about the marketing for Tangled

    by Hesiod2k7

    1. You name it "Rapunzel" and no little bot will want to go see it. 2. The trailers and TV spots played up the Prince and also made it look like a Shrek movie, thus also potentialy expanding its audience.

  • May 23, 2011, 8:44 p.m. CST

    John Carter the Princess of Mars

    by wattos new hat

    Pennsylvania.

  • May 23, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST

    lv_426

    by D.Vader

    This is very obviously a ripoff of Avatar. Even dumbasses can see that.

  • May 23, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Crap.

    by VicenzoV

    They should call it "John Carter of mars aka The Spaceman from Mars goes Back to the Future!!"

  • May 23, 2011, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Will Ice Cube be reprising the role?

    by Shubniggorath

    trollol Seriously we need the old school sci fi classics made as faithful film translations. Bring back "far out" sci-fi, we've had enough space opera in the past 20 years to last the next 20.

  • May 23, 2011, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Uh, didn´t they rename it to AVATAR already??

    by IKilledSuperman

    Oh boy, am I confused now..

  • May 23, 2011, 9 p.m. CST

    Featuring Antonio Sabato JR!

    by D.Vader

  • May 23, 2011, 9:03 p.m. CST

    How 'bout BARSOOM?

    by WONKABAR

    Nice simple one word title

  • May 23, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Fart Huffers

    by jackofhearts29

    "Any word that means anything could create an opinion in somebody! Let's just go with the guy's name! Great idea, J.T.! Where am I? Someone wipe my ass for me again."

  • May 23, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    GET JOHN CARTER

    by Mullah Omar

    Feed into the hype of that winner of a remake.

  • May 23, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Nice speedo

    by jimmy_009

    I know that kind of fantasy art is like untouchable holy ground around here, but it's fucking terrible and gives sci-fi/fantasy a bad name.

  • May 23, 2011, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Leaves room for Syfy...

    by t_allen

    to release their ten dollar epic version probably called 'John Carter of Mars' the weekend this hits the big screen.

  • May 23, 2011, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Maybe they are removing references to Mars all together.

    by The Outlander

    They might just have it as some non-specific alien planet.

  • May 23, 2011, 9:22 p.m. CST

    t_allen, it already happened

    by D.Vader

    And starred... Antonio Sabato Jr!

  • May 23, 2011, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Female titles

    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    I think "Princess" is something to avoid but Disney's had plenty of hits with female names as titles, Alice being the most recent. And as for the Confederate issue, it didn't stop WB from rolling out Jonah Hex or that curly-haired guy in Twilight... But know this, John Carter, when it comes to bringing Dejah home to meet the folks- she's probably going to be treated no different than if you brought home a black woman or another man instead.

  • May 23, 2011, 9:36 p.m. CST

    This wont change the movie...

    by ThePorkChopExpress

    and may get more butts in seats according to some execs. That's what we want right? So no big deal for me.

  • May 23, 2011, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Did someone say "Female titties"?

    by D.Vader

  • May 23, 2011, 9:48 p.m. CST

    mullah

    by JTStarkiller

    Ha! Loved that. Nice one.

  • May 23, 2011, 9:48 p.m. CST

    So the long delayed ER movie is finally hitting the theaters?

    by Xiphos_2

    Sweet! although i don't remember multiarmed green dudes in the show but then again I haven't seen all the seasons.

  • May 23, 2011, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Let's change MOBY DICK to just DICK!!

    by Drunken Busboy

    That way no one will confuse it with Moby the over rated DJ or whatever he calls himself! ;)

  • May 23, 2011, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Let's change MOBY DICK to just DICK!!

    by Drunken Busboy

    That way no one will confuse it with Moby the over rated DJ or whatever he calls himself! ;)

  • May 23, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Mars

    by Henry Fool

    If they wanted something simple yet epic they should have just called it "Mars". I'm against the name change but if they're going to do it, they should pick a name that'll still give people an idea of what the film is about.

  • May 23, 2011, 10:32 p.m. CST

    it's just John Carter...

    by skellngtn

    because they decided they needed to reboot the franchise before it even starts and do a prequel where he hasn't gone to Mars yet (hence Mars not being needed in the title). He'll be a youthful John Carter pondering his feelings before that darn war even starts up. and there will be an indie music soundtrack by all the kids favorite bands. and Beyonce will sing the title track and Lady Gaga will have a song playing over the end credits. And young John will sparkle when he steps into the sunlight. F- that!!!! He's on Mars! there are f-ing MARTIANS!! they'll have lots of limbs like those beasts on Pandora! Swords! rayguns! floating ships and hot broads!!!! it's plain as day. they shouldn't screw this up. it's all RIGHT there.

  • May 23, 2011, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Rise of the planet of John Carter

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Get your story straight AICN. That's the name of the new film

  • May 23, 2011, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Really, guys?

    by blackwood

    Is it... because of our continuing tensions with the Martian people? Because I read on superherohype.com that we killed Osama Bin Laden, so. You know. It's cool.

  • May 23, 2011, 10:39 p.m. CST

    'John Carter of Mars' is a great title. Why mess with it?

    by Mr Nicholas

  • May 23, 2011, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Get youh ahzz tuh Mahz

    by Nasty In The Pasty

  • May 23, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST

    WHAT ABOUT TAYLOR KITSCH IS HE STILL ATTACHED TO THIS?

    by Meadowe

    and I remember the girl that played Kayla or whoever from the origins Wolverine movie was supposed to be in this also. I'm not too familiar with the original material, but hopefully this movie is good.

  • May 23, 2011, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Disney Presents:Captain John Carter and the Pirates of Mars!

    by Jobacca

    PIRATES!!!! ON MARS!!!!! HOWZ JACK SPAR-ERR,WE MEAN JOHN CARTER GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS ONE?????

  • May 23, 2011, 11:16 p.m. CST

    ALMOST 2 YEARS AGO www.aintitcool.com/node/41398

    by Meadowe

    wow and they're still trying to find out what to market it as title wise? then again it's not like wolverine catapulted kitch and lynn collins into superstardom, so there wasn't any immediate need to get out another movie with them featured.

  • May 23, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Medowe

    by Xiphos_2

    Kitsch is John Carter. Don't judge the kid based on wolverine nobody came out of that mess smelling good. I would however suggest watching the TV version Of Friday Night Lights . Kitsch was absolutely incredible in it. Now maybe that was a situation of right actor to material/character and writers but I am hoping that some of that FNL shine lands on John Carter of Mars.

  • May 23, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Isn't this film under Pixar's watch?

    by SifoDyasJr

    If so, it will be fine. I think they're going this way for the branding, kind of like they did with Narnia where they had that as the main title and 'The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe' was secondary.

  • May 23, 2011, 11:37 p.m. CST

    How 'bout John Carter of Barsoom?

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    That's the native Martian word for Mars.

  • May 23, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Pre pubescent boys.

    by SnootyBoots

    A truly faithful adaptation of the book would be rated R for nudity and violence, but this will be rated PG-13 so there wont be any age restrictions and THE CORPORATION can ring every penny out of those half price child tickets. They took the word "Princess" out of the title so they wouldn't scare away even one little boy from buying a ticket to a movie about an icky girl. And now they've taken "Mars" away because those same little boys didn't buy enough tickets to a totally unrelated movie that happened to have "Mars" in the title. Meanwhile, those little boys are not adverse to going on the internet. Every one of them is going to know the movie is based on a novel called "A Princess Of Mars" well before it ever shows up at a multiplex near them. And, unless it's total shite, they'll still go to see it. I may not, though. These pussy maneuvers Disney is making with the title don't instill much faith in the movie for me. Maybe I wont hand over the cash for a full price adult ticket. This is looking like a Netflix movie to me.

  • May 23, 2011, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Ugh! Dumb decision!

    by catlettuce4

    I can see the series (if we get sequels) being titled "John Carter and the..." but that doesn't mean this can get away with just being John Carter. That is, frankly, too bland and ordinary a name to carry any weight. If I had my druthers I guess I'd like to see it be "John Carter and the Princess of Mars." Why are they shortening this so ridiculously when many (popular) movies have long, cumbersome titles? John Carter... that is just not going to sell tickets. That title could significantly hurt the box office.

  • May 24, 2011, midnight CST

    Oh...

    by catlettuce4

    If they are afraid of using Mars in the title (which is, in itself, stupid since the movie is all about Mars and the trailers wil undoubtedly show this), why not something like John Carter: Warlord or something...anything... to indicate the movie might be something adventury/cool?

  • May 24, 2011, 12:02 a.m. CST

    I enjoy the books, but really they're not very good.

    by SmokingRobot

    I am curious to see how they'll adapt these to film.

  • May 24, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST

    xiphos_2

    by Meadowe

    yeah I hope my earlier comments didn't seem down on him, or even collins, I actually like Kitch (personally I think his name Riggins from fnl sounds derivative of riggs in the lethal weapon series to invoke a sense of badd ass-ness in his character, in a good way). I liked how when the coach caught him with his daughter in the bedroom together riggs could've put coach's daughter on blast but instead chose to take the fall for her, and the ensuing apology from the coach when he found out what his daughter was up to before coming into the room. When I first heard of him as Gambit I was kinda disappointed as I had pictured Josh Hartnett doing it, but after catching fnl I thought the guy could pull it off, and he did imo (all things considered). I was just trying to point out the reaction to origins wolverine didn't do much for them

  • May 24, 2011, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Did geeks complain about SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION?

    by james_cameron_raped_my_childhood

    ...when they took "RITA HAYWORTH AND THE" off King's title? This is silly stuff to get worked up about, like who cares. I agree with smoking robot, the books weren't exactly classics. <p>The big concern for Disney would have to be moviegoers seeing it as an Avatar knock-off. <P> I just want to get a look at Willem Dafoe's mo-cap antics, can't wait!

  • May 24, 2011, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Hypocrisy is off the charts in here...

    by Jay

    Fright Night, Thing, Carrie, Total Recall, Conan, and from every other remake/re-imagining, all I read is the same thing: "If it's a re-imagining, why not call it something else?" Well, here ya go. A remake is being titled something different, and... now you want the original title back. flip flipping mother fuckers.

  • May 24, 2011, 1:09 a.m. CST

    Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption

    by tomandshell

    Can you imagine if they had kept the original title when they made the film?

  • May 24, 2011, 1:10 a.m. CST

    John: Who's name means toilet.

    by UltraTron

  • May 24, 2011, 1:19 a.m. CST

    meadowe

    by Xiphos_2

    I agree that arc with Riggins living at Coach Taylor's was excellent and especially the parts you mentioned but I have to hand it the writers and Kitsch for this current season of Riggins on FNL. Absolutely top notch and at times emotionally devastating arc Riggins took the final season. I am going to miss that show, in my opinion pound for pound FNL was the best show on TV the past 5 season that almost nobody watched.

  • May 24, 2011, 1:42 a.m. CST

    A rose by any other name would suck

    by NivekJ

    Filmmaking has really become a coward's domain. In TV and cable, you can take so many risks, because it's less costly to do. Between advertisers and pay-subscribers, you don't have to worry about the gamble of selling a ticket. But so what? Every movie ever made was, is, and will be a gamble. Solid movies flop, dumb-ass movies rake in billions. But a coward's a coward, and Disney truncating this title to please some phantom moron audience reeks of cowardice. Story, character, spectacle. That's what we shell out these dollars for. I don't care if it's Fast Five, or Fast and Furious 5: Rio Heist, I just want a good movie. "John Carter" will kick our ass just as hard as "John Carter of Mars" would, or "A Princess of Mars." Keep in mind, "A Couple of Dicks" as a movie would have been just as bad as "Cop Out," but the title change would've been a spoonful of sugar infused within the whole piece. Die Hard 4.0 would have been a better fit. Titles matter. Everything matters, but only so much. I'll be more pissed off if Stanton lets me down (he won't); Disney I almost expect them to (Pirates 4). Yes, this is a "fuck-you" from Disney, but an even bigger "fuck-you" would be shutting this flick down after pre-pro. If this eases the collective mind of the corporate cowardice culture, then fine. Screw the title. We know what the movie's called, that's fine. But Disney has screwed themselves out of a good thing before, and almost let Pixar fly out of grasp. Constructivism has taught Disney that cowardice works. I say we show them it doesn't, by putting "John Carter of Mars" on everything having to do with it, Bat-logo '89 style. Refer to it as nothing else. I say we don't march to the coward's drum. They took a chance on us, with UP, with WALL-E, with John Carter on Mars. We just need Disney to keep taking chances.

  • May 24, 2011, 2:28 a.m. CST

    John Carter sounds like a movie about a doctor.

    by brokentusk

    Still, this isn't worth making a fuss over. As long as the movie's good, they can call it 2ohn C@rter for all I care.

  • May 24, 2011, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Smell the money, beware the nostalgia.

    by Keith Maniac

    Brand name recognition = good Aspects of property that are esoteric or dont fit exactly with present pop culture form = bad Congratulations, your now a movie exec, ( your complete lack of judgement and understanding will follow by post).

  • May 24, 2011, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Is this a ER spinoff?

    by Gorgomel

    Noah Wyle got to eat

  • May 24, 2011, 4:01 a.m. CST

    i wouldnt put it past them to call it JACK CARTER

    by CARTMANEZ

    in the book JC states on the first page 'I am better known as Captain Jack Carter' everyone will be lining up thinking its the highly anticipated sequel to Get Carter (the Sly remake one..not the classic original)

  • May 24, 2011, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Jack Carter and the Princess of Newcastle

    by CARTMANEZ

    the setting: London 1970 Jack Carter is in the middle of a gangland shootout, outnumbered he hides in nearby alley and is overcome with fumes rising from the ground. he awakes and finds himself in a curious land where the natives speak in a curious tounge and drink a curious brown liquid called 'Brown ale'

  • May 24, 2011, 4:55 a.m. CST

    It makes no marketing sense

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Leaving off the Mars, it just sounds so generic. It doesn't pop at all.

  • May 24, 2011, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Coach Carter and the MoFos of Mars

    by CARTMANEZ

  • May 24, 2011, 5:12 a.m. CST

    This project began to stink...

    by SunTzu77

    As soon as they cast Taylor Kitsch as Carter. He simply can't act.

  • May 24, 2011, 5:22 a.m. CST

    John Carter and the Moms of Mars...directed by Simon Wells

    by CARTMANEZ

  • May 24, 2011, 5:37 a.m. CST

    Zack and Miri make a Porno became Zack and Miri.

    by V'Shael

    And that did just wonders for its box office, right? Right? Hollywood executives don't know WHAT the fuck they are doing. Good movies are made DESPITE the process, not because of it. We all know this. It'll be as true next decade as it was last decade. Why is anyone surprised by this shit?

  • May 24, 2011, 7:05 a.m. CST

    The next PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN movie will be simply titled JACK SPARROW

    by Mr. Pricklepants

  • May 24, 2011, 7:06 a.m. CST

    The next Pixar movie will be simply called PIXAR'S NEW MOVIE

    by Mr. Pricklepants

  • May 24, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST

    John Carter = new Indiana Jones

    by dailysportspages

    So the movies will be named... John Carter and the Princess of Mars John Carter and the Gods of Mars John Carter and the Warlords of Mars Just like we had stuff like Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, IJ and the Temple of Doom, IJ and the Last Crusade, etc... This makes for a nice trilogy.

  • May 24, 2011, 7:17 a.m. CST

    BREAKING NEWS: John Carter no longer a former Civil War soldier

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    He's now a doctor working at a Chicago hospital, moonlighting as a librarian in New York.

  • May 24, 2011, 7:23 a.m. CST

    "J.C."

    by RayA

    Market research indicates that the name "John" evokes bathrooms and also prostitution, and "Carter" evokes Jimmy, a failed president, so the new title will just be the initials.

  • John Carter Of Mars says it all, doesn't it? Those people of old were unto something when they invented titles for their stories. The title was a way to sell the story, the title itself was already an advertizement.

  • May 24, 2011, 7:52 a.m. CST

    sometimes i think holywood executives hate cinema.

    by AsimovLives

  • its was, is, and always shall be "RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK" THATS IT! hang on letme see my dvd box set to see what thats got on it... holy shit my dvd says 'IJ and the ROTLA' man i never even noticed that b4! i actually bought that?! those mother fuckers!!

  • May 24, 2011, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Jack Carter and the Princess of Newcastle (cont)

    by CARTMANEZ

    Carter (played by a deaged Italian Job era Caine)gets taken by these odd humanoids to their princess - played by Geordie chocolate eyes herself Cheryl Cole

  • May 24, 2011, 8:03 a.m. CST

    I say rename it "JIMMY CARTER AND HIS EMBARASSING BROTHER"

    by Astronut

    All kidding aside, the only vivid memory I have of this series is the Marvel comics, with awesome colorful cover art done by, I think it was Gil Kane? Ah, the 70's... 25 cent comics, with so many great selections to choose from. Damn those were the days. I am looking forward to this film though. And I agree. They need to get the "Mars" part in the title.

  • May 24, 2011, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Call it JC: Warlord of Mars

    by Stan Gable

    Maybe the religious idiots will think it is about Jesus Christ and make it a box office smash. Regardless of what they call it, this is definitely going to be a niche film. I like the John Carter comics but had no knowledge of him before that other than the occasional rumor that Schwarzenegger would play him ten years ago. A lot will depend on the success of Cowboys & Aliens to see if people get really get interested in the idea of a civil war vet being transported to Mars.

  • May 24, 2011, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Get Your Azz to Marz

    by CARTMANEZ

    Maria wont think to look fer me dhere AHHAHAHA!

  • May 24, 2011, 8:16 a.m. CST

    hey i just realised - 3 Mars movies in 2012

    by CARTMANEZ

    just like 2000 (M2M, Red Planet and another one i forget) they aqll flopped and so far one already has in 2012... good luck JC

  • May 24, 2011, 8:18 a.m. CST

    oh wait no i got that all wrong

    by CARTMANEZ

    2 Mars movies in 2000 - M2M and RP 2 Mars movies in 2012 - JC and Total Recall remake

  • May 24, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Amazing John Carter on Mars

    by james_cameron_raped_my_childhood

  • May 24, 2011, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Mars Attacks John Carter

    by james_cameron_raped_my_childhood

  • May 24, 2011, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Before they're done this will be a comedy starring Jack Black.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

  • May 24, 2011, 8:40 a.m. CST

    John Carter 2: Mars Never Sleeps

    by james_cameron_raped_my_childhood

  • May 24, 2011, 8:54 a.m. CST

    In Stanton We Trust

    by biglou114

    I'll still have faith in the movie as long as Andrew Stanton's direction isn't compromised. Both of his directorial works are among the best movies of the past decade, and that's not to mention his top notch writing. In his hands I believe that this will be the top movie of 2012.

  • May 24, 2011, 8:58 a.m. CST

    John Carter, Doctor of Mars

    by hst666

    always occurred to me at least once an episode when i watched ER.

  • May 24, 2011, 9:01 a.m. CST

    As long as Brooklyn Decker is Dejah Thoris...

    by butterbean

    My ASS will be in a seat!

  • May 24, 2011, 9:02 a.m. CST

    ...Never mind, its the chick from Wolverine.

    by butterbean

    Pass.

  • May 24, 2011, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Yes. Come to your senses Disney and revert back to Mars.

    by riskebiz

    John Carter of Mars is the title, Disney. Live with it. Makes no sense that you'd lob it off...unless you were some 20-something exec who thinks his $#!+ doesn't stink and is god's gift to marketing and knows better than any fanboy. Idiots.

  • May 24, 2011, 10:40 a.m. CST

    They don't understand

    by LeftFoot

    John Carter may just be the short hand working title. They apparently don't really understand what they've got. It's not really science fiction. It's sci-fi influenced fantasy. If they went with that approach and took it serious they could do something good.

  • May 24, 2011, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Just call it "Barsoom"

    by DoctorTom

    unless they want to save that name for the stage play Barsoom: The Musical

  • May 24, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST

    It's official: It's going to be "JCM 3D"!!!

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    "JC3D: The IMAX Experience"

  • May 24, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Disney's marketing sucks nowadays

    by frankenberry

    Seriously, Disney, you used to be the master at marketing. Get your shit together.

  • May 24, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    "John Carter: [Enter Subtitle Here]"

    by frankenberry

    Looking at Disney's other major franchises, I imagine the title will probably be "John Carter" with a subtitle. The studio likes to do this, in preparation for sequels.

  • May 24, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    don't care about the title

    by The Fuck

    the fuck's wrong with you guys

  • May 24, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Stop pre-production. Save your money. Don't bother.

    by Snake Foreskin

    There is 0% chance that a movie version of this book series will ever be anything but a huge flop. I have spoken.

  • May 24, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST

    John Carter II: Tokyo Drift

    by redundantman

    John Carter III: Electric Boogaloo

  • May 24, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Warlord of Mars

    by Wormie1

    Dynamite currently have a very good comic book called Warlord of Mars. Surely a stronger title than just John Carter.

  • May 24, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    This will pale besides the Traci Lords version.

    by cookylamoo

    Otherwise Known as John Carter of Cleveland.

  • May 24, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    No Nudity = FAIL

    by Han Cholo

    Cmon, everyone here wants to see Dejah Thoris' tits and ass but it won't happen. There's no way this movie will do justice to the book. Might as well not make it if you're not gonna do it right and by doing it right = R Rating due to violence and casual nudity.

  • May 24, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Disney sucks at titles - They called Rapuzel, TANGLED

    by Andy Pandy

  • and prattling on about the sanctity of the "source material" ... And they're probably the same people who asked "Tintin who?" ... Can we have an honest poll as to who has actually read a John Carter book?

  • May 24, 2011, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Font cutbacks are the reason for the change

    by thommcg

    Dialog to be trimmed as well.

  • May 24, 2011, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Same thing with Pixar lately.

    by jerseycajun

    Changing "The Bear and the Bow" to "Brave". Hey Disney, your audience is capable of stringing more than two words together to comprehend a title. I mean, I like brevity, but brevity without purpose is simply dumb.

  • May 24, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST

    banned_dirty_ape

    by thommcg

    In fairness to Harry Potter, wasn't the book alternately titled in the first place?

  • May 24, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Ragingfluff, I have read most of them...

    by Snake Foreskin

    at least ten or eleven, and although they are silly and flawed, I enjoyed them. But they have a quality to them that I believe to be unfilmable. Especially by Disney. I mean, just look at the cover art above. Does that look like something Disney would be able to faithfully reproduce? Let me save you the trouble of answering: "NO." I say, scuttle the project now before it hits theaters and disappoints all but the most undiscerning moviegoers.

  • May 24, 2011, 2:56 p.m. CST

    How about "Pulp Science Fiction"?

    by Snake Foreskin

    That's what it is, in a nutshell. I am so clever.

  • May 24, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    John Carter

    by dopepope

    sounds like a movie about a nobody that defies some convoluted legal nonsense against big corporations by being persistent and righteous but probably gets a divorce somewhere in the middle. And definitely has to dodge some bullets and crashes his car in a chase.

  • May 24, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Warlord of Mars

    by THX1968

    I was introduced to John Carter through the great Marvel Comics series. That led me to the Burroughs books. The film should be called "John Carter: Warlord of Mars" in big letters with colorful pulpy graphic design. We'll get the polished metal look... again. The Disney marketing dorks need to sit down and shut the fuck up. Hopefully Lasseter will lay down the law and let Stanton name it properly. If the execs don't think that the word "Mars" will hook the kiddies, the name "John Carter" will? No one younger than 40 even knows who the fuck John Carter is. It isn't like Tarzan. And we should mention that this movie is going to totally blow people away. This film is going to be a game changer, the game changer Hollywood desperately needs. I mean it. When you start to see snippets here and there, you'll understand that they could call it "Sanford and Son of Pluto" and it won't matter. But it damn well matters to me. Marketing dorks, take your demographic reports and surveys, roll them up nice and tight, bend over slightly, and place them in your anus.

  • Hollywood will be scouring all the old pulp magazines (Weird Tales, Amazing/Astounding Stories etc) and famous stuff looking for quirky movie material that is if 'John Carter' (of Mars) is a hit... if not forget it baby

  • May 24, 2011, 4:05 p.m. CST

    John Carter from Mars is a lame name

    by lostboytexas

    wheres my Crossed movie adaptation???????

  • May 24, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST

    My money says this will never be filmed

    by Teddy Artery

    It will ultimately be cancelled. After all, Avatar owed a huge part of it's look and feel to this series. Audiences now view Avatar as the "real" John Carter of Mars.

  • May 24, 2011, 4:13 p.m. CST

    thx1968 - i agree

    by CARTMANEZ

    guys name titles should be reserved only for those characters already established in the public conscious - Sherlock Holmes, Robin Hood Indiana Jones (remember they didnt use 'IJ' until hed been established), Rambo they should call it 'John Carter of Mars' or 'JC Warlord of Mars' unless it aint gonna be Mars (like in Spielbergs WOTW - although i never bought they wernt from frickin Mars!)

  • May 24, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST

    cartmanez-remember a little movie called Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow?

    by soma_with_the_paintbox

    I do, but no one else does. Maybe the long-ass title killed it [/sarcasm]

  • May 24, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST

    i cant get past the first 2 chapters of Princess of Mars

    by CARTMANEZ

    ive tried a few times and just cant do it. once he's on Mars i just tune out (yknow that thing where youve read 2-3 pages and like NOTHING has gone in and you realise youve been going over things in your life instead?) eventually i had to skip to the end where he (SPOILERS) wakes up in the cave again and wikied the rest i dunno what it is...its like as soon as ERB starts describing the martians BAM i tune out. maybe its because i know it cant happen what with Mars being dead and all i dunno love the set up though - the whole Carter escaping from the indians in the cave and then sniffing some smoke and going up to mars although can someone explain exactly what happens please - what exactly is the smoke supposed to be and how did it cause him to get to mars and who is the mummified woman in the cave at the end? was it 10 years he was gone for? was it asterial projection that caused him to go to mars? (wiki aint that clear on that stuff)

  • May 24, 2011, 4:56 p.m. CST

    soma_with_the_paintbox - yeah i remember WOT

    by CARTMANEZ

    didnt it get its title changed as well? from 'World of Tomorrow' to 'Sky Captain and the WOT' - trying to difference itself more from 'Day After Tomorrow' out the same summer it wasnt too bad but just has no rewatchabilty factor (plus i think Law and Paltrow were miscast)

  • May 24, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Why not go the JLo route and just call it 'JCa'

    by Rebel Scumb

    It will appeal to the twitter/texting generation who prefer to speak in a jumble of random letters and emoticons

  • http://www.realcelebritynews.com/2011/05/23/Johnny-Depp-Does-Not-Remember-Filming-Fourth-Pirates-of-the-Caribbean-Film/

  • May 24, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Harrys worst review (or best if you like that kind of thing)....

    by CARTMANEZ

    was Blade II i read that and then couldnt finish my sandwitch

  • May 24, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    If they're worried about making money

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    rename it John Carter of the Carribean

  • May 24, 2011, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Correct me if I'm wrong but...

    by la te ral us

    Isn't this PIXAR'S first live action type movie? Everyone's saying "fuck Disney" but haven't they brought us like some of the best films in history??? "Up" is a pretty stupid title, but it's a freaking fantastic film.

  • May 24, 2011, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Pasties and A G-String-The Dejah Thoris Story

    by butterbean

    A Lifetime original.

  • May 24, 2011, 10:56 p.m. CST

    That Artwork...

    by thebastard

    ...is the SHIT! Why is this being fed to the Disney crap-tastic machine? This should be given to someone who will make it like it should be. Great, sci-fi fantasy is what I see in that artwork, full of adventure, beautiful women, and frightening aliens hunting are hero down on the planet of War. Too bad it'll probably suck.

  • May 25, 2011, 5:16 a.m. CST

    They fucked it up by casting that Gambit wuss

    by chien_sale

    They should have hired Jeffrey Dean Morgan for John Carter or Josh Holloway

  • May 25, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Maybe instead of John Carter, they go with Gabe Kotter.

    by Bartleby T. Scrivener

    Fucking Disney.

  • May 25, 2011, 9:41 a.m. CST

    The title is REALLY important

    by Beezbo

    Kids are not going to know who "John Carter" is and if kids don't see it, there will not be a series no matter how good the movie is. I already fear that the movie will suffer from efforts to differentiate it from Avatar, the way that god-awful "Spirit" movie (*sigh*) had to deal with "Sin City" being made before it.

  • May 25, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    punchydugan

    by NightArrows

    Raiders of the Lost Ark is one of the greatest movie names in history. Run into the wall at full speed, head down, for your dumbfuckery.

  • May 25, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST

    "Gods of Mars" is where the series gets cracking.

    by cookylamoo

    Way better than Princess. But some of the best Mars books like "Chessmen" and "Synthetic Men" don't even feature John Carter.

  • May 25, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Is it me or isn't Dejah Thoris...

    by Jango Fart

    Supposed to be ssssmoking hot and wearing nothing but a smile and some jewelry? How does an authentic John Carter story ignore that?

  • July 12, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Title is Fitting -- Burroughs Would

    by Typeaux

  • July 12, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Title is Fitting -- Burroughs Would Approve

    by Typeaux

    The name "John Carter of Mars" was the 11th book of the series, and was written by Burrough's son, not the original author. It is also a bit hackneyed and not the best book by far in the series (originally ten books), none of which had "John Carter" in the title. However, with the exception of the fourth book, which is about Carter's and Dejah's son, Carthoris, the series is about John Carter and much of it is written in the first person by Captain Carter himself. So, the title is fine. I read all the books several times many, many years ago (try 45+ years) and always thought they'd make a good movie, or series of movies. I also read all 22 of the Tarzan books by Burroughs, who (like Rowling) wasn't a great writer, but a superb story teller. If the film(s) stay true to the story and don't get too caught up in special effects and making caricatures out of the characters, then it might have a chance. From what I've read about the director's motives and sensibilities approaching the project, I'll pay my money and take my chances.

  • July 12, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Whoever Said "That picture is hideous..."

    by Typeaux

    Obviously never read the trashy paperbacks by Ballentine and Ace back in the 60's (the latter having the covers done by the master Frazetta himself and helped launch is fame...) This is a hodge-podge of various elements that use some of Frazetta's renderings, but without his sense of style. A bit too cartoony, I will grant you.

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