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Once upon a time it was THE GREATEST MUPPET MOVIE EVER - now the poster is here...

Published at: May 13, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST by AICNStaff

Hey folks, Harry here...   just got sent this from Montreal...   A teaser poster for THE MUPPETS due out November 23rd of this year...   and the poster kind of freaks me out.   Looking at them all full bodied.  Here, let's see what you think:

Ok...   Now from what I've heard about this film - it will not only be funny, but heart-breaking in the best kinds of MUPPET ways.   I had a friend on set that relayed to me one song about how nobody wants the Muppets anymore - and that it was so great he was in tears.   All I want is a film that has some soul.   That doesn't feel like a cash grab or an opportunity to be seized.   For me...  THE MUPPETS are a big deal and November 23rd is too far away!

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  • May 13, 2011, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Post 0

    by HEADGEEK

    THE MUPPETS poster?

  • May 13, 2011, 4:58 p.m. CST

    looking forward to this

    by Datascream

    I miss the Muppets.

  • May 13, 2011, 4:58 p.m. CST

    full bodies

    by elsewhere

    I'm guessing for the first time we'll see the full bodies animated with CG? Cool.

  • May 13, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Have Muppet movies ever been a cash grab?

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    Over the years, it's been hit or miss at times, but it's not like they're cranking out Muppet movies every year like they do with Pirates, Saw, and Fast Furious movies...

  • May 13, 2011, 5 p.m. CST

    Full bodies?

    by nieman

    PLEASE NO CGI MUPPETS

  • May 13, 2011, 5 p.m. CST

    elsewhere

    by HEADGEEK

    No, I think you'll just have all the rods removed digitally. From everything I've heard, the Muppets were on set in force every day.

  • May 13, 2011, 5 p.m. CST

    Puppets only

    by G00mp

    or it will be crap. No CG.

  • May 13, 2011, 5 p.m. CST

    When's that DARK CRYSTAL sequel out?

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    That's the only Jim Henson property I'm interested in. Even though it'll probably be terrible.

  • May 13, 2011, 5 p.m. CST

    They aren't quite mops and they aren't quite puppets

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    they're muppets

  • May 13, 2011, 5:01 p.m. CST

    At first glance I thought it looked like Gonzo was holdin' a 9 mil

    by magnetoelectric

  • May 13, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    In 3-D!!!!!!

    by Lance Rocke

  • May 13, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST

    We've seen muppets full-bodied before... remember Kermit riding a bike?

    by WriteForTheEdit

  • May 13, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    If they have ONE FUCKING FRAME of CG for a Muppet character...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ...that would be like taking a piss on Henson's grave. God, please tell me that hasn't already been done and I wasn't aware...

  • May 13, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Also, I can't wait for this.

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Very, very, very hopeful.

  • May 13, 2011, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Oh, Disney <shakes head>

    by Kevin Rubio

    You've never known how to market them. And I speak from experience of Dealing with Disney trying to do a Muppet project.

  • and which live, human actors will be cast in the iconic roles?

  • May 13, 2011, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Nice =) !

    by Alincia

    I'm also looking forward to this movie..! I have a good feeling about it..hope I'm right.

  • May 13, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    freaking me the hell out

    by leonardo_dicraprio

    i don't wanna see the legs! I don't wanna see the legs! muppets are supposed shuffle/bounce along. Seeing them mid-stride walking normally makes it clear that these are aliens that have morphed into muppet form and are here to brainwash us.

  • May 13, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Will Salicious Crumb be in this?

    by Nico Toscani

  • May 13, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    I remember when I first saw CGI in a muppet movie.

    by sweeneydave

    It was A Muppet Christmas Carol - the scene where the ghost of Christmas future takes Scrooge through that eerie, twisty portal. I remember first thinking that it was so cool and unexpected to see that kind of effect in a muppet movie. And then I felt kinda bummed that that kind of effect was in a muppet movie. If CGI is used, I hope it's done like Cast Away - where you don't even know that it's CGI until you watch the DVD features (things being removed or added in a way that you wouldn't even know).

  • May 13, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Seriously though, we've been seeing their legs since

    by sweeneydave

    the first Muppet Movie, so I don't know why it's such a big deal for everyone. Remember when Kermit and Fozzie did that dance in the worst, most dangerous bar in the world?

  • May 13, 2011, 5:30 p.m. CST

    If they have ONE FUCKING CG MUPPET!

    by MoffatBabies

    Your dick falls off and I start fucking your girlfriend. Oh, that's right. Done and done.

  • May 13, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST

    So does the Frog have a...

    by ddschneider1972

    Kermit Toe?

  • May 13, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Animal looks like he just snorted a line of coke off a nun's ass

    by kidicarus

    And is now going on a fucking rampage.

  • May 13, 2011, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Pissing on his grave?

    by bah

    That's a bit presumptuous. I don't want anything but puppet Muppets, but I would never assume the Henson would be so vehemently opposed to anything CG. he may have loved what it let him do.

  • May 13, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    I really recommend

    by emeraldboy

    street gang by michael Davis. its the true story of henson, the muppets, sesame street everything. The great Joan Ganz cooney and loyd morriset and the early days of us childrens tv and how sesame street started. by sarah morriset watching kids tv.

  • May 13, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Jim Henson died due to his Scientology beliefs.

    by Arafel

    The dude was really sick and he didn't go to a fucking hospital, because he believed in the bullshit Scientology crap! No, he wasn't healed Tommy Cruise! This is what happens when you don't take medicine and go to a fucking doctor! FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCKER! DO YOU HEAR ME TOM CRUISE!?!? DOES YOUR GAY ASS HEAR ME?!?! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 13, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Teaser trailer with Pirates?

    by frankenberry

  • It's fucking ANIMAL. He probably did! I'm more concerned that Kermit has the Autobot Matrix of Leadership in his chest....

  • May 13, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    THEY'RE NOT MUPPETS WITHOUT A HUMAN HAND UP THEIR ASS

    by Curious_Jorge

  • May 13, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST

    I wish Drew Struzan would come out of retirement.

    by Ozzel

    Moreover, I wish he had a reason to. His Muppet work was fantastic. He captured them like no other.

  • May 13, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    There's strings

    by coolhanddave

    Marionettes is what they are.

  • May 13, 2011, 6:42 p.m. CST

    They all look freaking awful

    by FeralAngel

    I remember that as tween watching the Muppet Show, thinking that Ms. Piggy looked freaking hot at times (shut up, a lot of people thought that at the time. They were POPULAR. And she was part of a HUGE FAD.). She don't look hot in that poster. Horrible Medusa hair and too fat. As for the rest - well they all look LESS real with legs, for some reason. Gak. Wasn't eager to see this anyway, even less eager now.

  • 1. Full-body Kermit, Fozzie, et al have been around forever. They've been used relatively sparingly, but this sort of posed shot isn't new. 2. For people crying foul at any use of CGI -- Henson was very progressive and pro-technology, and correctly anticipated the importance of CGI as a filmmaking tool. In his own work, he was always pushing the envelope ... for example, he added a CG character to "Muppets 3-D." You can damn well bet he'd be using the latest advances in computer graphics today ... although it would probably be far more artistic and tasteful than most of his peers. 3. Henson was not a Scientologist. He grew up in a Christian Science household, but there's no evidence that had anything to do with his death.

  • May 13, 2011, 6:43 p.m. CST

    I meant the Muppets were popular

    by FeralAngel

    This site needs edit buttons.

  • May 13, 2011, 6:45 p.m. CST

    BTW, for an example of a CGI film Henson might have made...

    by Admonisher

    ...look no further than MIRRORMASK, which was produced by his company. It blends CGI with practical effects in a way I think he would have entirely approved of.

  • May 13, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Fantastic! This IS puppetry and NOT computer!

    by frogboy4

    A+ We're looking at just a teaser poster here. Reports indicate this will be 99% traditional puppetry with only a little bit of CG polish here and there. Jim Henson always embraced technology as a storytelling device and definitely would be using in its correct context today.

  • Love that scene with the "Miss Piggy" woman (man?) dressed in motorcycle gear. It even looked wrong seeing it as a kid.

  • May 13, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    RE: CG and Henson

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Henson and his company are clearly cool with all types of image enhancement and I'm cool with CG in a Henson movie. "Mirrormask" was great (and the lead chick was hot!). But to imagine that the Muppets themselves - beloved characters who are first and foremost about the art of puppetry - would have their bodies made out of CG for a feature film that is meant to re-introduce them to a new generation, that's what I would find appalling and that's what I think Jim Henson would not be down with. But, fuck, I didn't know the guy, so maybe I'm full of shit...

  • May 13, 2011, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Just stop...

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    With all the speculation on what Jim Henson may or may not have liked/used with current tech. We'll never know and it doesn't matter anyway for very obvious reasons. Let's just appreciate his craft, the vision he had, and the great work he left for all of us to enjoy, and just leave it at that, okay?

  • That's why it's not easy being green...

  • May 13, 2011, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Yeah, la_sith but at least IT WASN'T IN CGI!!!!

    by FeralAngel

    You muppet purists are hilarious. Oh, no, they can't use CGI, it's gotta be rags and sticks and foam rubber only!!!! Just like the good old days. Come on. I saw a piece of an interview with the frog talking to Johnny Depp (who seemed none too thrilled) and the frog looked like a hand with felt covering it. I mean it LOOKED that way, never mind the realities of the situation. Beats me why some people still find it so incredibly clever. Jeez.

  • May 13, 2011, 6:59 p.m. CST

    What's wrong with CGI all of a sudden?

    by FeralAngel

    You muppet purists are hilarious. Oh, no, they can't use CGI, it's gotta be rags and sticks and foam rubber only!!!! Just like the good old days. Come on. I saw a piece of an interview with the frog talking to Johnny Depp (who seemed none too thrilled) and the frog looked like a hand with felt covering it. I mean it LOOKED that way, never mind the realities of the situation. Beats me why some people still find it so incredibly clever. Jeez.

  • May 13, 2011, 7:12 p.m. CST

    CG when used subtly is an excellent tool

    by Terrence

    We all know this, and anyone that says different just don't understand cinema very well. Regarding the Muppets, they could use it in a very subtle manner for certain shots of effects, or they could take the piss out of CG in general by having extremely blatant CG shots in a scene or something and just satirize it. Either way would be fine.

  • Because they are all exactly the fucking same now. It seems to have started with Fast Five. That aside, I'm psyched for this because my son LOVES the muppets. And what a great thing for him to love. So much of todays kid's entertainment is spastic bullshit. It's nice to have something with heart. This and Pooh both look to fit the bill.

  • And then he punched Gonzo right in his big fucking nose. That guy got mad angry when he was drunk.

  • May 13, 2011, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Um...Jim Henson DID use CG a lot in the late 80's

    by frogboy4

    Again, this film will be traditionally puppeteered with a little bit of digital clean-up when needed. There is little doubt that the Muppets creator would want to keep a traditional approach with the Muppet Show characters, but there is NO "theorizing" when it comes to whether or not Jim Henson would use CG today. He DID use it. A LOT! This is evidenced in "Labyrinth" and his weekly Muppet show "The Jim Henson Hour". The program also featured an entirely CG Muppet character Waldo who also featured in Jim's final film "MuppetVision 3D" for Disney parks.

  • May 13, 2011, 7:41 p.m. CST

    I agree with horgy about Kermit's chest

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    I'm assuming that's just the flash from the person's camera that took this I'm assuming thats also why they look wierd since whoever took the picture did it at a slight angle that that can make posters and drawings look wierd.

  • I keep forgetting this is coming out. Probably because it's been so long that I cared about the Muppets the way I did when I was a kid. Seeing their legs always freaked me out too.

  • May 13, 2011, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Nobody wants the Muppets anymore?

    by Andy Pandy

    Not true. Maybe they weren't handled or marketed well. but the the demand for the Muppets has never died. just check out youtube.

  • May 13, 2011, 7:47 p.m. CST

    @frogboy4 Im glad you brought up Muppetvision 3-D

    by sunwukong86

    A prime example that Henson had no problems with CGI. Also one of my earliest memories, I saw it when i was 5 when it first opened

  • May 13, 2011, 7:47 p.m. CST

    CGI Puppets

    by Jarados

    Jim Henson actually pioneered CGI puppet technology that eventually led to motion-capture technology in films like "Lord of the Rings" (Gollum, *cough*). His last project that he was involved in was Muppet-Vision 3-D at Disney World, and one of the characters is a CGI motion-capture puppet that he created. He would have been PRO-CGI, not against. It's not pissing on his grave.

  • May 13, 2011, 7:47 p.m. CST

    I saw on disney.com the other day that this was coming

    by Jaster

    They bought the muppets, what like 2 fucking years ago? About time they actually did something with them. I guess they were biding their time until this came out and I assume there will be a big push behind it with toys, books, etc. That's great because I really want to get my boy a stuffed Kermit and the only ones I can find are old ones on ebay.

  • May 13, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Disney will rue the day if they fuck up the Muppets

    by Maynard G. Krebs

    I'm just sayin'. I loves me some Muppets. I was happy to see who was working on it and I will save my opinion for when I actually see it.

  • May 13, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Muppet Men: First Class

    by Inexplicable_Nuclear_Balls

    Because walking towards the camera is what Hollywood knows you want.

  • May 13, 2011, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Good to see the Muppets back and kicking a$$

    by hallmitchell

    The Muppets have been lost for such a long time now. It will be great to see them back and relevant again. There has been so many mis fires. It's not funny.

  • May 13, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    menstrual_bloodfart

    by DrMorbius

    Well played sir, well played.

  • May 13, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Sounds fantastic!

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Gotta love the Muppets. I hope that they have a bit of the Wallace and Grommit type of humor too.

  • May 13, 2011, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Waka waka waka, who wants to hear a funny ass joke?

    by Yamato

  • May 13, 2011, 8:14 p.m. CST

    I do I do

    by JackSlater4

  • May 13, 2011, 8:21 p.m. CST

    This poster is epic

    by frankenberry

    Yeah, I know some of you are saying, "Oh great, another poster where the characters are walking toward us." But considering how long it's been since the Muppets left theaters, and that we usually don't see the Muppets walking, this poster strikes as very attention-grabbing. It's new, but it's old. I love it.

  • May 13, 2011, 8:33 p.m. CST

    And you thought the Robert Zemekis animated movies were creepy

    by GimpInMyPants

    This is gonna turn an entire generation of kids off the Muppets.

  • Jim Henson was the first puppeteer to take full advantage of the television medium by giving puppets closeups and other advanced techniques including composite effects, video monitors inside of full-bodied characters, animatronics, remote control puppetry, green screen, computer generated effects and performance-capture puppetry. He was a pioneer! He also beautifully blended these advanced techniques with the traditional ones and that's why it always seemed to work. Nonetheless, he embraced everything new and this has been stated by his employees and family members in countless interviews. I encourage anyone who hasn't seen these behind the scenes gems to sift through YouTube or NetFlix some of Jim's films that include special features.

  • May 13, 2011, 8:54 p.m. CST

    "Heartbreaking?" Turn on the news, Harry

    by YackBacker

    Look at Japan, look at Libya, look at Africa. That's heartbreaking. Seeing some Disney-funded felt characters getting trotted out to cash in on a property is depressing, but hearing those same characters (voiced by God knows who) lament that the world has left them behind is a pretty silly deal. Makes for a new definition of "MUPPET BABIES."

  • I mean, they're still gonna be PUPPETS, operated in real-time by human puppeteers, so I don't really give a crap if they digitally erase a few visible rods here and there to make that happen.

  • May 13, 2011, 9:01 p.m. CST

    The Muppets died with Jim Henson

    by OutsideChance

    Some things are just too much a part of their creator to work when that creator passes away or leaves.

  • May 13, 2011, 9:21 p.m. CST

    I never realized it till now...

    by kiwicanuck

    ...but Gonzo has a big cock for a beak.

  • May 13, 2011, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Looks like Gonzo has his COCK OUT!!!!

    by Larrylongballs

    Now where are his Chickens?

  • May 13, 2011, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Outsidechance

    by Sean

    Do you really want that to be true? Fanboy pessimism aside. Wouldn't it be nice to think that it's possible, just maybe, that the Muppets CAN live on in the right hands. Jason Segel's work in FSM proved that he knew the tone of the Muppets, he had the beats. Are you such a curmudgeon that you would prefer no more Muppets forever just because it's creator passed on? That's such a sad way to look at things. I don't think that's what Henson would have wanted, for his characters to die with him, that's too out of character for the human version of Kermit the Frog. he'd want them to live on forever, to be rediscovered from generation to generation, for the lovers, the dreamers, and me.

  • May 13, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Not a Muppet cash grab? Nah, just a Toy Story 3 cash in

    by Larrylongballs

    Its the same story.

  • and they had this musical number that had live goats in it; at one point a goat takes a bite out of a muppet and the muppet hit it in the nose. The goat just stood there with this dazed WTF look on its face. Since that day I have rejected all scientific facts. Look it up

  • No lie...look it up

  • May 13, 2011, 10:35 p.m. CST

    nothing to worry about!

    by manuehl

    Jason Segel is involved! remember the end of Sarah Marshall? this movie will be great! he loves the muppets and he can write decent songs!

  • May 13, 2011, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Legs on puppets just look wrong.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • May 13, 2011, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Rumor has it DJ Qualls did mocap footage for the movie...

    by Triple_J_72

    ... I kid, I kid. ;-)

  • May 13, 2011, 10:50 p.m. CST

    how could the world not want the muppets?

    by seabiscuits

    it's impossible that they couldn't make a comeback in a fingers snap. they should of went with a different story.

  • May 13, 2011, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Seth Rogan as Fozzie?

    by Anakin_Piecocker

    this is getting good.

  • May 13, 2011, 11:54 p.m. CST

    The Muppets are walking like they're in the Justice League cartoon intro!

    by MrMysteryGuest

    Kermit as Superman!

  • May 14, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Jason Segel is not aging well

    by darthpigman

  • May 14, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Jim Henson's death, if you're into conspiracies

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    There's this raging conspiracy that Jim Henson died of AIDS, but that it was so early on in the awareness of HIV, that it was not ever really identified as much. They theory hinges on the circumstantial evidence that Henson was a homosexual. From the notion that Bert and Ernie were homosexual live-in lovers, the whole rainbow obsession-like theme to the first Muppet Movie, and the rather large number of Muppet show repeat guests who themselves either 'came out' or are targets of their own 'SEEKRIT GAYZ" conspiracies (Elton John, John Denver,) Not saying I believe it - just saying its out there.

  • May 14, 2011, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Can't wait!

    by TDH1138

    This is one of the movies I've been excited for since I was at D23 2 years ago and the Muppets came out and performed! It was awesome!

  • May 14, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST

    corporate poster

    by cylon_conspiracy

    can't think of any other term to describe it. Sterile, definitely not kid-oriented. Blah. However I expect the movie to be great. I love the Muppets and I don't think these characters will ever be out-of-date or uninteresting.

  • May 14, 2011, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Jim loved CG - checkout Muppets 3D at Disney's Hollywood Studios

    by paulmkelly

    That little CGI fucker flies all around for half the film.

  • Little kid priorities.... You know....

  • May 14, 2011, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Jim Henson himself made digital Muppets

    by Chief Joseph

    http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Waldo_C._Graphic "Jim Henson had begun experimenting with creating digital characters in the mid-1980s and Waldo's underlying technology grew out of experiments conducted to create a computer generated version of Kermit the Frog."

  • May 14, 2011, 2:14 a.m. CST

    That being said,

    by Chief Joseph

    I'd rather Disney focus on putting the rest of The Muppet Show on DVD and the movies on Blu-ray. I've been waiting forever.

  • May 14, 2011, 2:19 a.m. CST

    This WILL be a really good Muppets movie

    by Raggles Wimpole

    I think it is pretty much guaranteed that this will be an excellent Muppets movie, and will at least be exponentially better than Muppets from Space & The Muppets' Wizard of Oz. It might not approach the sublime brilliance of The Muppet Movie or Muppet Treasure Island, but it will be a Muppet movie that Muppet fans can be proud to love. I say this because Jason Segel is one of the world's biggest Muppet Fans & truly understands what makes them special & how to stay true to the characters -- the Dracula musical scene in Forgetting Sarah Marshall is proof enough. This looks to be retaining the look & feel of the Muppet material produced when Jim Henson was still alive. And just in case anyone complains that any sort of digital filmmaking will ruin this, just remember that Henson was interested in all aspects of film & was very experimental. It is certain that, were he still alive, he would openly embrace CGI, 3D, motion-capture & all other forms of digital filmmaking that most people scoff at & take advantage of their strengths to make something exciting & entertaining. Off all the filmmakers/artists who have passed away since I have become a movie-lover, I mourn Henson's death the most because I would love to see how he would apply his artistic genius & creativity to today's technology. I believe that he could have taken the tools that artists have at their disposal & do something truly magical.

  • May 14, 2011, 2:39 a.m. CST

    EVERYTHING is CG these days

    by cylon_conspiracy

    Which means the Muppets stand out. Kind of like when CG was the new thing. Well, CG is the old thing now. And now the oldest thing, actual objects you can touch, are the new cool thing. A puppet is a puppet because it's a puppet. Not because it's a computer program. CG is fine. Puppets are fine. The point is to use the right tool at the right time. I don't care if there's a little CG help here and there, I assume 95% of the characters' screen-time will be traditional puppetry. What would have bothered me is if they made the Muppets CG just to stay current. While it would have looked "cool", doing that would have demonstrated complete ignorance as to why these characters are so loved. But, they didn't do that. Like others have noted, Segel's FSM scenes with puppets showed someone who really likes the art, I have no doubt he is the right guy to be involved with this project. Now if it had been Jack Black or Will Ferrell, we'd have problems. But Segel seems to have the appropriate reverence for these characters and the talent to make them look good. And I could be wrong, but the last Muppet film to be in theaters was Muppets from Space and that was an adult-friendly film that got no love from anyone, even though it did everything right. Maybe it was too different than the kiddie stuff people might be expecting. It's one thing to say you want a good Muppet Movie, it's another thing to actually pay money to see this and give the studio neanderthals incentive to keep making these films. Don't rent this, actually see it in a theater.

  • May 14, 2011, 2:41 a.m. CST

    So Many Good Memories

    by FloristGump

    of the Muppets, both as a kid watching in the 70's, the Muppet albums, Muppets Tonight in the 90's (yeah, the Brosnan episode ruled, came out just as Goldeneye was released, and the Sandra Bulloch episode was hilarious) and later - via my website - getting the chance to interview a number of Muppeteers who worked at close quarters with Henson himself. I think,if done right (as with anything) this could be very special. Muppets always had an 'edge' that other similar shows didn't - it's why the Muppets at its peak worked in a way Fraggle Rock didn't. You always knew how self-aware the characters were, that they were always performing for us, in a show at the Muppet Theatre or outside of it. If done right we could have a real resurrgence of Muppetmania - new Muppet Babies, a new TV show, more albums (imagine Miss Piggy doing Lady Gaga and appearing on Glee). Fingers crossed they nail it, Jim's legacy is the Muppets and it deserves a proper relaunch, and so do we.

  • May 14, 2011, 2:59 a.m. CST

    well said, floristgump

    by cylon_conspiracy

    I feel the same way you do. I'm just old enough to remember seeing the Muppet Show on Prime Time and watching the original Muppet Movies in the theaters. And of course the Muppet Babies cartoon on Saturday Mornings--damn. Good days. I also taped all the Muppets Tonight episodes on VHS because I knew how important they were. And now as an adult I can appreciate all the funny mature bits they threw in for the grown ups as well. And of course I can appreciate the brilliant craft of Henson and his crew. So, when this comes out I will be there opening day. And I hope everyone else here is too. We bitch about the quality of movies they give us but for stuff like this we need to be there in the theaters and prove we are serious about these types of films.

  • This is an experimental cash-in in the way that execs are saying "let's make a muppets movie and see if kids actually want to see it so we can make a ton of money" Kids nowadays don't know what the Muppets are...so it's an experiment for people who are out of ideas.

  • May 14, 2011, 4:09 a.m. CST

    It's not quite a mop and not quite a puppet...

    by Mel

    ...so to answer your question: I don't know

  • May 14, 2011, 4:32 a.m. CST

    The Greatest Muppet Movie Ever Told...

    by DrManhattansUnit

    Starring Kermit as Jesus Christ - lots of flying cotton wool in the scourging scenes.

  • May 14, 2011, 5:01 a.m. CST

    This sounds great, but...

    by catlettuce4

    They won't be seen walking around via CGI or something in this film will they? It's just a poster gimmick I hope.

  • May 14, 2011, 5:37 a.m. CST

    They look weird with legs

    by Sepulchrave

    Just sayin...

  • May 14, 2011, 5:39 a.m. CST

    henson had a terrible death...

    by emeraldboy

    and upon reading it, you realise it was all so needless. but as i know personally all deaths are terrible.

  • May 14, 2011, 6:01 a.m. CST

    just to set the record straight

    by emeraldboy

    henson had an untreated strep infection. but prior to his death he was worn down by eisner and walt disney's relentless attempts to get thier hands on his creations. in his superb book Micheal davis recounts a story by Joan Ganz cooney about a lunch between Henson and Eisner. In the 40 years she knew henson she said that she never saw henson get angry. well at this lunch she said saw the blood rise in hensons neck when eisner delivered a cutting throw away remark. henson last taped interview was the arsenio hall show. and he looked dreadful. flat and had lost his sparkle. he taped that interview early and went home and at about 4.30pm he called his agent and his was grasping. the agent sent him a cab. but the cab driver brought him to wrong part of the hospital. he got out and walked to the reception. when he was getting worse. later that evening, the medical team went into emergency mode. on the night of the 15th 1991, jim henson had 4 seperate heart attacks as the strep infection effectively shut down his body. Henson died on 1.30 am in a new york hospital surrounded by people he didnt know. on may 16th 1991. also on that day sammy davis jnr died. but hensons death was really shocking. and needless.

  • May 14, 2011, 7:15 a.m. CST

    "THEY'RE CLOSER THAN YOU THINK" = This movie is 3D

    by YackBacker

    Christ...

  • May 14, 2011, 8:01 a.m. CST

    I know i keep referring to this in my posts..

    by emeraldboy

    davis's book gives you great insight into the young henson and his genius is not disputed by anyone. Henson was a quiet listener. very observant. he would sit there and not say a thing with out expression but his brain was working away and those who saw him working with a piece of felt were astounded. he was constantly working on new ideas. if you go to the henson site you will see a new feature called jims red book. he started it 1965 and continued untill 1988.

  • May 14, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Whats a.....

    by truenotes1

    Lisa: Dad, what's a Muppet? Homer: Well, it's not quite a mop and it's not quite a puppet... but man (laughs). So to answer your question, I don't know. Cracks me up everytime I see that episode.

  • May 14, 2011, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Jim Henson....

    by Dead_Geek

    ... is spinning in his grave.

  • May 14, 2011, 8:37 a.m. CST

    CG vs Practical

    by nieman

    Just because Jim experimented with CGI puppets doesn't necessarily mean he would've used them. He could've said "this is great" or he could've not like the way they turned out and went his traditional way. We'll never know but it works both ways. As it currently stands, CGI characters would be a slap in the face. Kermit, Ms. Piggy, Fozzie, Rowlf, Scooter, Gonzo, Electric Mayhem and even Stratler and Waldorf should not be CGI. The puppets themselves are living characters. Even if you look at them with the puppeteer, you still only acknowledge the character. That magic can't be duplicated by CGI. This isn't Mickey or Bugs.

  • Kids still watch Sesame Street. Disney World features them prominently. Every kid I know has managed to see the Muppet Show or Fraggle Rock. But that's all moot because the Muppets aren't geared toward kids anyway. That's why I think the "adult" puppet shows like Greg the Bunny and Avenue Q are dumb -- they're not actually bringing anything new, except drugs and swears.

  • jedward. kids love jedward. jedward are john and edward grimes. from lucan in dublin. they are like marmite, in that you love them or hate them. kids sent them to the annual european song contest and it will likely be that kids will send them into to the top three. they cant sing a note. the do crazy stuff on stage like back flips and jumping around. they are utterly unpredictable in interviews and thier press conference at eurovision was wild. they came in and walked on the table before taking their seats, then hijacked the press conference by asking the hacks questions. but as of today everyone in europe loves them. these two boys are about to conquer the world. most things are like marmite. you either love stuff or hate it. as of know basement dwelling talkbacks hate movies. I love the muppets and Have always done so. it was a very sad day for me when henson died. like a lot of people...

  • May 14, 2011, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Funny how muppet vision at disneyworld used extensive cgi

    by UltraTron

    back when henson was still alive. Funny how Henson embraced every technology he could get his hands on to make the muppets work. Funny how you kids still play cgi watchdog to the world- forever in terror that a jar jar binks or young flynn will pop up for no reason.

  • May 14, 2011, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Oh wait. They just made that young Flynn. Yeah I guess that was

    by UltraTron

    pretty recent. Yeah I guess it's ok to bitch about digital

  • May 14, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST

    I think Kermit should be carrying a glock

    by tiggr009

  • May 14, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST

    For those worried about puppetry...

    by Forrestal1931

    Let me know what you think! http://www.thespiritcabinet.com/

  • May 14, 2011, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Henson Digital Performance System

    by bah

    http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Henson_Digital_Performance_System

  • May 14, 2011, 10:18 a.m. CST

    in the end henson was no fool...

    by emeraldboy

    and had an iron will that could wear people down. you have to have ambition. and drive if you want to make it any where. henson even sacrificed his family and marriage to ultimately bring about his ultimate goal which was to change the face of kids tv and to teach them lessons and to break down social barriers. and he understood as did others that there is no such thing as free lunch and despite the hippy image he projected. he was a business man. and did not mess about trying to look after his interests. trying to get henson on board sesame street was no easy task. into the 1960s and 1970s there was only one dominant entertainment company, Walt Disney. For henson and other people, all roads lead there. it was inevitable that the muppets ended up where they were. even carroll spinney, literally one day ended up at walt disneys door. at abc. its all in davis book. which i would recommend.

  • May 14, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS

    by BSB

    Toy Story 3 had me in tears and I didn't even care about the franchise all that much. Harry's description is leading me to believe I'll be bawling like a little girl during this movie. Can't wait.

  • May 14, 2011, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Jason Segal and the new emo puppet will ruin this

    by HornyForHarry

  • May 14, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Can somebody tell me whether Henson ever used CGI?

    by JuntMonkey

    Hey, would it be possible for somebody to let me know whether or not Henson approved of CG? I'd especially be interested in knowing if he used it in MuppetVision 3D at all. I haven't seen enough posts on that particular subject.

  • May 14, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    they should have made that puppet dragonlance movie instead

    by crazy4dragons13

    that would have been awesome. instad we got the keifer sutherland one. that had cgi.

  • May 14, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST

    They're called pants Kermit...

    by Darklighter

    ...GET SOME!!!

  • May 14, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    sciencefromscratch

    by OutsideChance

    It's not a question of what I want or don't want. I like Jason Segal's work a lot. However, I have never seen an attempt at the Muppets that works without Henson. If nothing else, to this day, Kermit doesn't sound right (kind of like how Bugs, et al, don't sound right without Mel Blanc). He sounds like a guy imitating Kermit. Some creations are just too much a part of their creator no matter how much we might wish otherwise.

  • May 14, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST

    DARK CRYSTAL SEQUEL needs support

    by Drath

    Because they can't get the money to make it and without fans asking about it, I don't think it has even a prayer of happening.

  • May 14, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Jim Henson died of

    by rahtard

    Toxic Shock and strep, a complication from pneumonia. There are articles about this, and it used to be common in 80's and early 90's. It still happens today. And seeing as Henson was a workaholic, it would make sense that he would run himself into the ground before getting help. No AIDS, no religion, just unfortunate circumstances.

  • May 14, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    the tragedy is that....

    by emeraldboy

    there are no individuals like henson around. people whos mind perculated with ideas. actually there is one. tim burton. talkbackers hate him...

  • May 14, 2011, 3:25 p.m. CST

    The Poster Mock-Up That Everyone Wanted!...

    by Tassium

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/muppetsp.jpg/ Perfect design, it just says it all. In the future all film posters will be the same, so much more effective than pictures of a dead rat with maggots which is what they wanted to go with for the Muppet film. Imagine the classic "Raiders.." posters as a walking to camera setup. Genius!

  • May 14, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST

    That stupid AIDS urban legend...

    by Chief Joseph

    ... has been around since the day he died. I remember one news anchor expressly saying, "It was not AIDS" to try and dispel that urban legend, which somehow morphed into the "Ernie is dying of AIDS" legend.

  • May 14, 2011, 5:18 p.m. CST

    No, not Burton. Del Toro maybe

    by bah

    Burton occasionally has some great ideas, but I wouldn't say he percolates with them.

  • May 14, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST

    People like to post their ignorance. These are some facts:

    by frogboy4

    All reports have shown much care was taken in every stage of development. They tried that with the uninspired mucked-up Muppets From Space and it didn't work. Sony shelved the original Space script penned by classic Muppet scribe Jerry Juhl in favor of something bland and canned by the hack CG director of "Garfield" and "Alvin & the Chipmunks". This film is intended as a *remedy* to the cynical cash-grabs of other properties and efforts. Jim didn't just tinker with CG, he was actively integrating elements of it into the Muppets. Again - this was all done with thoughtfulness and not the gimmicky way in the past. Also the Muppets featured in this poster have shown their legs in projects since the 70's. What the hell is wrong with a head-to-toe teaser poster? I think people just like something to whine about. It just shows how much the world needs another Muppet movie.

  • May 14, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST

    what died with henson really was...

    by emeraldboy

    the idea that one man could surround himself with talented people and really inspire them and then to inspire others by the work they leave behind. and I am speaking from a film/creative point of view..... For all that I admire about pixar's technical brilliance. their movies now leave me cold. i loved the opening of up with carl and ellie as children and the scene with carl scrap book was heartbreaking. I think Ratatouilee is thier masterpiece and maybe my fave pixar film is nemo. that film made every other film I saw that year look dull. We really dont have nascar in ireland its more motorcycling. the backdrops in cars were beautiful and that film will be remembered as newmans swansong. and he was great in that but of course he gave the performance in a lifetime in red to perdition. which was his last film as an actor proper. back to henson. I dont really know why the henson company has been so slow in making new films though. I cant believe that it has been 20 years since he died. maybe they have never gotten over given the muppet debacle?

  • May 14, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST

    You Want to see a Muppet Movie that'll Fuck You Up for Ages?

    by BigEddieCalzone

    There's a script floating around out there called THE MUPPET MAN. It's Henson's life told with the Muppets in a surprisingly creative, mature manner. I've read the first draft of this mess and wasn't that impressed -- the Muppet Man left me stunned for days. Save your ducets for the real Muppet Man.

  • May 14, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST

    sesame street character with aids did exist

    by Ronald Troy Cowan

    on the south african version. look it up on line and you will find lots about it. Kami was the name I think.

  • May 14, 2011, 6:24 p.m. CST

    if they are going to make a film about hensons life...

    by emeraldboy

    I think at this point they will use Micheal Davis's book. rather than just a big biopic. which at one they were going to do. with penny marshall. but that film never happened.....

  • May 14, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST

    It wasn't Henson who died of aids, it was...

    by theJackalope

    Gene Roddenberry! The man was a sex addict on hyper-drive. Whenever there were costume fittings for actresses he had to be there so he could do "hands-on" adjustments (ask Sherry Jackson or Terri Garr). He once asked a co-worker if he should see a doctor because he could have sex only three times a day. He'd leave his office window open while screwing the latest script-girl, guest star, Majel Barrett, Nichelle Nichols or whomever so folks would know what a stud he was. He was once in his office making out with a gal when his wife showed up in the outer office and Majel Barrett showed up at the back door! The man got so much tail that if he didn't die of aids it had to have been dehydration!

  • May 14, 2011, 10 p.m. CST

    del toro will fizzle as fast as burton

    by crazy4dragons13

    i love burton, and i don't think del toro has any super creative ideas that make him any more qualifible of a next gen henson. in my opinion matt groening, matt and trey, seth rogan, are creative geniuses with a world of characters as well as successful spinoffs. they could be considered the next hensons.

  • May 14, 2011, 10:02 p.m. CST

    deltoros coming slate is all remakes anyway

    by crazy4dragons13

    hobbits (almost), hellboy 3, frankenstein etc. sure he did pans labyrinth but what else is from his own imagination?

  • May 14, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    You look so sexy, Lisa!

    by Surf Ninja

    Oh hai, doggie!

  • May 14, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST

    File under disappointment

    by fox_mulder

    The Muppets died when Jim Henson did. Sad fact. You can file this one in the disappointment bin. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

  • May 15, 2011, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Yes, there is an HIV+ Muppet, but

    by Chief Joseph

    I'm talking about the stupid Ernie has AIDS/ Bert & Ernie are queer urban legend that persists to this day. CTW was getting deluged by letters like this one to TV Guide from the early '90s: "After reading your article, 'TV That is Good for Your Kids', it was reported to me that Bert and Ernie are gay. My grandchildren will not be watching 'Sesame Street' anymore, and I hope you will relay that message to Executive Producer Michael Loman." - Julianne H. Sallee, of Pocahontas, AZ Children's Television Workshop response: "Bert and Ernie do not portray a gay couple and there are no plans for them to do so in the future. They are puppets, not humans."

  • Every Muppet fan knows that even though Jim Henson was the leader, they could not have risen to fame and maintained it for as long as they have without the talents of many people including writers, performers, puppet builders and other innovators. Many of these people are still around today. They'll always be missing Jim, but there's a lot of other pillars of support to keep the Muppets going strong, fresh and clever.

  • May 15, 2011, 4:09 a.m. CST

    I just rewatched Season ...

    by Lee

    of the muppets recently. Such a great show, but the celebrity sections feel extremely out of place.<P><P>Poster looks great; hope it lives up to your description.<P><P>If it turns out that the muppets are computer-generated, I may attempt to recruit Frank Oz and go on a rampage at Disney.

  • May 15, 2011, 4:18 a.m. CST

    by crazy4dragons13 groening's problem is that

    by emeraldboy

    he has allowed the simpsons to be run into the ground by fox. the simpsons are not funny anymore and i know there are some on this site who would claim that they were not funny anyway. I disagree.... southpark can be hit and miss. I loved the episode where all the famous people sue southpark and the scene where cruise is working in the fudge packing factory is hysterical. as is the one with the people from the future and southparks male's residents idea to repel them back. and as for seth rogan cricket....cricket.....cricket....cricket....cricket.....

  • May 15, 2011, 4:43 a.m. CST

    by get.everyone

    by emeraldboy

    dont ask frank oz what miss piggy thinks. he was asked that a by junior reporter and Oz verbally beat that young reporter into the ground. "what sort of a stupid question is that" and then told the young reporter to eff off out of his sight. and oz may have called him a jerk

  • May 15, 2011, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Won't be any good if it's Disney

    by BoyNamedSue

    The old Muppett Show and movies were entertaining for kids AND adults and crossed a few lines Disney would NEVER cross (j

  • May 15, 2011, 7:21 a.m. CST

    It'll suck cause it's Disney

    by BoyNamedSue

    Muppets were funny in the 70s and 80s. But Disney, IMHO, appeals only to little girls, homosexual boys and sheltered GOOFY people who have led charmed lives....the kind of people who love child beauty pageants, for instance! EVERYTHING about Disney is lame, and so are the Muppets since Henson died and Disney too over!

  • May 15, 2011, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Henson died on the same day Sammy Davis Jr. did

    by BoyNamedSue

    Just a little known piece of trivia I remember....just like John Adams and Thomas Jefferson....or Farrah Fawcett and Michael Jackson!

  • May 15, 2011, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Taking the time to get it right

    by Nem_Wan

    Disney bought the Muppets in 2004. There hasn't been a theatrical Muppet film since 1999. Obviously Disney wants The Muppet Studio to be another Pixar. You can't say they've been rushing to exploit it. Steve Whitmire has been with the Muppets for 33 years and has been performing Kermit for over 20 years. Whitmire is almost as old as Jim Henson lived to be. Maybe there are still people who refuse to consider this Kermit to be the "real" Kermit but if you watch him perform unscripted now, it's eerie. It's Kermit. His voice is not exactly the same as 30 years ago, but neither is Al Pacino's. I think this feels like the right time for Kermit and the Muppets to come back in a big way.

  • May 15, 2011, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Miss Piggy on GLEE.

    by Subtitles_Off

    The world needs that like The Muppets need legs.

  • May 15, 2011, 9:27 a.m. CST

    "(we need to) prove we are serious about these types of films"

    by Subtitles_Off

    What? Puppet movies? Children's movies? Sentimental movies that appeal to a certain age-group's unformed nostalgia? The Muppets are great. There's another Muppet movie coming. Good for people who enjoy Muppets and Muppet movies. The only type of movie we need to seriously support are movies based on ORIGINAL ideas. Reboots, remakes, sequels, and franchises (yep, that's what The Muppets are, sorry to tell ya) already get plenty of support.

  • May 15, 2011, 10:19 a.m. CST

    It'll suck because it's Muppets

    by FeralAngel

    Compare the box office legacy of Disney from the days of Uncle Walt to now, and then compare the box office legacy of the Muppets. COME ON. The Muppets have generated chump change. And the more recent Muppet attempts have been flops because they sucked. And they didn't suck because they were Disney. Ever suffer through Muppets in/from Space? Disney had nothing to do with that. Quit blaming the mouse for the frog's stinky messes.

  • I'll put any one of Del Toro's monsters up against Burton's cartoony tentacles

  • May 15, 2011, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Other notables: Bird, Cameron

    by bah

  • May 15, 2011, 1:23 p.m. CST

    in the 1970s here is why the bbc rejected sesame street and

    by emeraldboy

    I am not making this up..... called it indoctrination. monica sims, who was the bbcs children program chief condemned it as a dangerous extension of the use of tv. she criticized the shows authoritarian aims. right answers are demanded and praised and a research report refers to the program makers aim change children's behaviour.... the bbc bought the harlem globtrotters and the further adventures of dr doolittle. ITV bought sesame street and aired as a thirteen week experiment. Itv had screened 10 eps in the spring of 1971. adults views were mixed. some found it wholesome and humourous and other thought it was vulgar. While you in the us had sesame Street. In the uk and ireland we had play school and play away. In ireland we had bosco and then fortycoats. then zig and zag. and then dustin the turkey. and podge and rodge. who are filthy and very rude.

  • May 15, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    The problem now is the voices

    by Dr. Strangelove

    Kermit just isn't Kermit without Jim Henson. It's not just the voice, it's the attitude and brilliant comic delivery. Henson & Oz were one of the great comedy teams in TV/film history. Old-school vaudeville, slightly-subversive satire, they could knock it out of the park every time. They're the kind of performances that require a unique intelligence and comedic skill that you can't just expect another muppeteer to duplicate no matter how good he is at copying the voice. I hope for the sake of the Muppets brand, and the kids that still watch them, that this movie is good. But it will never be in the same league as the originals.

  • May 15, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    interesting ancedote

    by emeraldboy

    there was a dvd commentary done by the man who replace jim henson, steve whitmire. and he said that while he enjoyed the training the henson company gave and he learned about the craft, he kind of complained that there was no follow through.

  • May 15, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST

    The world needs Muppets.

    by blackwood

    I do love the Muppets. SESAME STREET in particular. It formed me. It was affectionate and funny and smart, and it continued to be all those things when I grew up and looked back, but in vastly different ways. It was genius television. Seeing Kermit's legs for the first time in MUPPET MOVIE blew my mind. I was like, "Oh my god, oh my god, he's real." For like, a fraction of a second, because of course not, but I thought it was so so cool. Kermit, riding a bike. I loved how, in the Muppet films, the whole world accepted Muppets both as real and as Muppets. Like the scene in MUPPETS TAKE MANHATTAN where the doctor examines Kermit by twirling up his floppy felt arms and legs. Real and a puppet made of green felt that walked and talked and sang and danced. Always sold both ways with complete conviction. I just think that's rad. I love the idea of living in a world where puppet people are commonplace. Christ. Imagine going to work in an office every day with Bob and Sally and Harry, and one of them is a chicken made of socks and also an excellent typist. Or the next time you're at a bar and the bouncer is a seven foot tall purple monster with googly eyes and green striped horns who eats troublemakers in a hilariously violent and completely benign way. That world is awesome. It's warm and funny and sad and honest. There is an authenticity in the original Muppets that only Pixar has come close to emulating, although Pixar feels a bit clean in comparison. In conclusion, I feel ways about stuff. The wedding from MUPPETS TAKE MANHATTAN is in my top cinematic moments ever. Never a better wedding on film. Not one. I dare someone who has genuinely been in love not to feel that song in ever fiber of your being. I think the later Muppet films lost that honesty. I think they went off track with the "Muppets Presents Muppets in Classic Work" series. IN SPACE was also reaching a bit. Or maybe I'm just a victim of nostalgia. But I don't think so. I think Muppets are timeless, and I think right now, they are needed. Muppets are anti-cynical. The world could use that right now.

  • May 15, 2011, 10:56 p.m. CST

    DOES EVERYONE FORGET MUPPET BABIES

    by Rob

    BECAUSE THAT IS ESSENTIALLY CGI. IT'S A CARTOON.

  • May 15, 2011, 11:56 p.m. CST

    jim henson loved cgi

    by DarthBlart

    hes houted it out as his last words right before he was shot with a crossbow by enemy puppet comapny.

  • The Muppets achieve a rock star level of greatness here with a rise and fall and rise again to mega superstardom. With perfect song that feel almost like they were written by Henson himself. And anyone who fears that old-timey J Henson era Muppets feel can rest easily. Because their is infact an older, hilarious puppet named Jim, he has a beard, wink wink ;0 , and only has one line, but pretty much steals the show. Also Gonzo does a hallucianagetic riff on Fear and Loathing, fighting puppet bat characters with Rizzo the Rat. The only downside was Skeeter and Skooter seem to be non existant. Not until the end, that is, wink wink ;{. Love the new layout Harry. Peace.

  • May 16, 2011, 12:19 a.m. CST

    So excited can't wait for November

    by GuyRitchieRocks

    Basically this is Muppets Take L.A. For true fans. J Seigal knocks it out the park!

  • May 16, 2011, 12:31 a.m. CST

    @emeraldboy

    by Raggles Wimpole

    I agree with you about Burton to a certain extent. I agree that he is full of ideas & that he is very creative, but I do wish he would apply his talents to more original material. I miss the days when he was making films like Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice & The Nightmare Before Christmas - which I'm aware that he didn't direct, though he was pretty much the major creative force of the film. He has made some great films based on other people's material - Ed Wood, Big Fish, Pee Wee's Big Adventure & Sleepy Hollow. I have really high hopes for 'Frankenweenie,' his first stop-motion film in almost a decade. It will also be the first Burton film based on his own original material since 'Beetlejuice' in 1988 (you can say 'Corpse Bride' is all original, but it's based on old Jewish folklore). It's too early to tell on his adaptation of 'Dark Shadows' but a Tim Burton created/directed black & white 3D stop-motion animated film sounds amazing. I also read that he was maybe going to do a stop-motion animated version of the Addams Family based on the look of the original comic strip. Just the fact that Burton is partly responsible for the continued popularity of & advances in one of the oldest & greatest forms of film animation should grant him lifetime cool points.

  • May 16, 2011, 6:12 a.m. CST

    oh and for those in the us who never seen ireland...

    by emeraldboy

    you will be able to see it on the news this week. because the queen begins 4 day state visit to ireland. tomorrow. She will be taking in Dublin, Limerick, Cork and kildare and cashel in tipperary. and then obama is coming.....

  • May 16, 2011, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Re: Steve Whitmire

    by bah

    I completely agree he doesn't deliver on Henson's characters, particularly Kermit and Ernie (Ernie used to just be a joker; these days he's an asshole). But the guy has been doing Muppets since 1978, so I'm not sure what he had to be trained in.

  • May 16, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    If you want to cry watch this from Henson Memorial Service

    by eric haislar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zzfdlxjx4Y Fucking breaks your heart.

  • May 16, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Remember The Muppets episode with Alice Cooper

    by jawaburger

    Gonzo signed a contract with satan and blew up. I swear I remember that. The plot of the new movie reminds me of Meet the Feebles, which was a pretty awesome movie from early Peter Jackson.

  • joe Raposo died that feburary. nobody expected henson would die that may.

  • May 16, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    street gang is a very interesting read...

    by emeraldboy

    henson comes out of the book as very complex guy.

  • May 16, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    in the hensons days..

    by emeraldboy

    there was a very laid back attitude. henson was a very easy going guy. but he was steely when it came to protecting his interests. joan ganz cooney recalled the day she first saw henson. they were having a series of meetings or workshops and henson came to the one in waldorf astoria. propehtic looking, bearded and sat down ramrod straight. cooney was worried because he look like one of the weather men.

  • May 16, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST

    and what is interesting is this...

    by emeraldboy

    eisner warned the disney board about doing the deal with pixar. they ignored him. good call.

  • May 16, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    muppets & geek culture

    by professorjack

    of all the things one is suppose to "geek out" about, i dont get why the Muppets is one of them. Like, I can understand they are cool if you need to learn you ABCs or some shit, but adults talking about them? Its weird to me. Its baby shit. And not even Pixar where you can say its good for adults too, "The Muppets" just seem like straight children shit to me. I dunno...

  • May 16, 2011, 8:58 p.m. CST

    professorjack

    by sapno_krei

    I think you are confusing the Muppets with their PBS cousins, the Muppets of Sesame Street. "The Muppet Show" was definitely edgier (though not totally adult, by today's standards) -- heck, the first episode was titled "Sex and Violence"!

  • May 16, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST

    by ENIK REED

    Kermit is not naked. He has its collar on. The joke has always been that without his collar. The ignorance on this thread is hilarious. Not just in this matter, but in many other topics discussed here. Know your shit before you post. Plus, Muppets from space where not the greatest, was a very worthy entry. It was not just muppets in this classic story, or insert muppets here. It was a movie in the muppet world. I do however agree that Steve Whitmire is not very good at kermit. Its more then the voice, Its mannerisms and touches of subtlety. It seems to be more of a kermit impression. I do also feel that a better script would also help. Now with other performers taking over other characters, my fear is that it will also happen to others. But people die. And the show must go on. All i ask is rethink the performances dear substitutes. Bring back the zany offbeat magic.

  • The Muppet Show is not a kids' show. A family show, yes, but PG family, absolutely not G-rated. Someone mentioned the Alice Cooper episode. The Liza Minelli episode is a murder mystery, with someone killing off the cast (it's a play, but still). Put it this way: if you like Monty Python's Flying Circus, you'd probably like The Muppet Show.

  • May 17, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    "It just shows how much the world needs another Muppet movie."

    by FeralAngel

    Uh, frogboy, the world NEEDS a cure for cancer. Hyperbole much? I'm with Professor Jack. Geeks juicing up over Muppets is incongruous to the point of absurdity. Today's kids, on the other hand, are way cooler. Reminds me of a cartoon I saw recently - kid and his dad are watching TV. Kermit the Frog is on the screen. Kid says to his dad: "Is this why they used to call TV 'the idiot box'?

  • May 17, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    What about the blue light on Kermit's chest???

    by Dogmatic

    Am I the only one who sees the Donnie Darko like time vortex coming out of Kermit's chest?? Or is it the Matrix of Leadership?? Or did Kermit's heart get a piece of shrapnel to close to it and now he has a high-powered electromagnetic reactor installed in his chest?

  • May 17, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Amy Adams is singing and dancing in it.

    by sighborg

    Just thinking about that makes me smile..

  • May 17, 2011, 8:32 p.m. CST

    hasn't this been in the works for like 4 years?

    by The_Crimson_King

    I seem to remember hearing about them "filming" this as far back as early 2008

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