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What is SUPER 8? We're still figuring it out - and that's the fun!
Hey folks, Harry here... and I'm getting the SUPER 8 fever. If you've been paying attention online in the last 6-24 hrs, there's been a lot of material released - with a new TV spot from JJ's flick that got released to today that... well it is intense looking.
The key piece of information that has been frying my brain, got posted all the way back on Aprill 22nd, 2011 over at The HeroComplex, in this article - it has 7 films that JJ Abrams reportedly told them helped shape the eventual... whatever, that SUPER 8 is. Here's those 7 films:
CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND
JAWS
John Carpenter's THE THING
ALIEN
SLUMBER PARTY MASSACRE
SCANNERS
E.T.: THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL
In the quote regarding THE THING, JJ admits that all the Carpenter movies really, then also lists THE FOG and ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK, then stating that he loves Snake Plisskin.
Ok - So I've had that article in my back pocket - when the onslaught of Television spots started getting released.
Here's the Yahoo Super 8 spot:
Then FANDANGO has their's all nice and big here
/FILM posted their spot on YouTube:
Lastly, FEAR.net posted theirs today:
Ok... Now JJ's being very tease-y with these spots - we see EFFECT, but no CAUSE. At first, this seemed like a very Sweet film... but the more I see... the more Carpenter I'm seeing seep into this Spielberg set up.
What exactly has JJ made with SUPER 8?
He goes on about how much he loves Bottin's work in Carpenter's THE THING, he's referencing Cronenberg's SCANNERS and Scott's ALIEN. The SLUMBER PARTY MASSACRE inclusion JJ says is a bit off topic, but he really geeks out on the musical sound of that film...
Now, I'm not asking anyone to tell me what the film is... cause I do not want to know until I see it... but I love looking at all this stuff, with those 7 films in my mind... realizing that 5 of the 7 are horror, paranoid thrillers with a healthy dose of conspiratorial U.S. military problems too.
I like that JJ puts themes and thoughts on the table... gives us notions to think about... but if JJ is telling us that he's made a jam pic, that has a healthy dose of Spielberg - but with a good even amounts of Cronenberg, Carpenter, Ridley Scott with a smidge of SLUMBER PARTY MASSACRE at some level...
Man, the mind boggles. I have spoke to people that have seen SUPER 8 at various stages. I've heard it called "FUCKING EXCELLENT" to "A CLASSIC" - and I am genuinely curious to see if it comes to be one or both of those. A FUCKING EXCELLENT CLASSIC that could be played with those 7 titles would be awfully nice, dontcha think?
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Harry mulls around what we have on SUPER 8 so far
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I'm really wanting to be surprised by this one. And hey, Abrams listed 5 of my favorite films of all time. Can't go wrong with those.
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Like from Forbidden Planet
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Just to get let down? Just sayin'
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...which can shapeshift, that attacks a slumber party and then makes a guy's head explode. Before phoning home.
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Don't care about the hype. Sit my ass in the seat and eat popcorn.
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May 13, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST
Harry's witnessing of this will be kind of astonishing!
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS
And his review will surely reflect this.
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In all seriousness I'm looking forward to it. Cloverfield was worth a watch (I never have watched it since), Star Trek was okay (maybe because I knew nothing of Star Trek or maybe because it was a quick entertaining film). Does anyone else feel nothing by Spielberg producing? I feel guilty for not caring that much about him recently. Although, I am one of the few people who liked War of the Worlds (except for the son returning).
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May 13, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST
The last time I will watch any trailers or read stuff on this one
by Dr. Egon Spengler
I too, want to be surprised. I spoil myself way too much because of this site and others, so this time around, I'll be going in blind. See you guys after the movie is released.
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made entirely of lens flares
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Haters gonna haaaaaaaaaaaaaate!!!!
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does that mean the creature or whatever will be a practical effect will minimal CG? I sure hope so.
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Cloverfield was supposed to be so amazing as well. Has JJ ever made a "Classic"?
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It's a lion. It's huge. Somebody had to do it.
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May 13, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST
If one of the kids loses his or her head, and the head becomes a spider...
by WriteForTheEdit
...I will love this film to death.
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That "Star Trek" cash-grab was the last straw. "Sabotage" and big slapstick, foam-rubber hands, indeed. I don't need to see Abrams' half-assed riff on classic Spielberg-isms. End of story.
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May 13, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST
It's about military experiments with killer lense flares and the baddest one escapes
by aphextwin
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its at 19% on rotten tomatoes, so Harry should love it. Oh thats right, you didn't get bribed so no review.
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May 13, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST
Cloverfield was good, Star Trek was good, but JJ Abrams is not a visionary by any stretch. He's just dependable.
by golden tribw
I don't get the fan cult at all. I disagree with the Nolan evangelicals too, but at least Nolan halfway deserves them.
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I jest. I'm an Asi fan.
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Shocking I know.
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May 13, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST
I heard it was the American reboot of Attack the Block
by Domi'sInnerChild
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...it's whatever we want it to be. i want it to be ET x Alien.
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Man that was a great Johnny Quest Episode when they land on the island and some mad professor creates a Energy Monster that is invisible. People got killed off camera and you generally felt something of a dread when it made that whistle like howl. You know back when tv had balls. Anyways I don't think it's invisible you can kinda make out a massive arm sorta like Carpeter's Thing grabbing the Gas Station Kid through the glass door. Man I am so ready for some giant Monster Movies.... Except Pacific Rim which sounds like a glorified Power Ranger movie that killed Mountains of Madness. That just pissed me off. GO PICK ON SOME OTHER MOVIE AND GIVE US MOUNTAINS!
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His Lost pilot is considered one of the best in TV history. Star Trek was good, though he did famously go nuts with the lens flares. People also forget the degree of difficulty in taking something beloved and iconic, reinventing it in a very different way, and making most people happy with the end result. Plot holes be damned, it is a good flick. MI3 is very underrated, and perhaps the best of the series. Though, that may not be saying much. He didn't direct Cloverfield. It did get a lot of that viral hype, but no one who had seen the movie was gushing about it the way people are about Super 8. Spielberg's name is on this because Abrams is making an homage to the Spielberg of the 80's. And frankly, I'm fine with that. If it is anything like a Spielberg film from the 80's, then I'm going to love it. My only concern is that since Abrams is so obsessed with "mystery" elements, that I'm worried the film will depend on the alien reveal, and that reveal might disappoint half the audience (like Contact).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyophYBP_w4
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but this is a guaranteed crapfest like ST:INO.
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frank is trying to squeeze a major corporation for millions of dollars, due to their firing me without a good cause. wish me luck!
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May 13, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST
If for no other reason, I would sincerely LOVE for this film to be great so that it may skull-fuck Assimov's brain via his gaping asshole.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
And I'll just go ahead and say it: even if this film does turn out great, Assimov will never admit it. He's invested far too much time and energy in his one man anti-Abrams campaign.
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Its making a body/form for itself ... Missing car parts, missing dogs (flesh, tissue) ...??
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as if J.J. Abrams directed it? He was only a producer on the film. The only films he has directed are Mission: Impossible III, Star Trek, and Super 8.
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Form blazing sword!
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and it roars like a lion
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No more hype needed. Super psyched! While JJ was around Lost was kickass. M:I3 was great just cuz he got PSH to play the villian and for those bombs that explode in people's brains (still creeps me out thinking bout it). Star Trrk was a lot of fun and had some great action plus a Simon Pegg cameo. Just give me Super 8 already!!!!!
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May 13, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST
the tracking for this movie is surpisingly bad
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
Right now it's high-thirties, (millions) opening weekend. Yikes.
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Abrams' track record has typically shown that the less you know, the better.
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Steven Speilberg once again displays his bias against the modern combustion engine. In War Of The Worlds the aliens disrupt all engines (except Tom Cruise's, that was safe) and in this trailer he shows a car dealership with all engines damaged. Plus his first film was Duel, a film about a truck (which has an engine) chasing Dennis Weaver. Coincidence? I think not.
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May 13, 2011, 7:06 p.m. CST
Just not feeling this one, and JJ has not such a great track record
by SadTruth
So he basically mentions every geek favorite he can muster on the spot in order to rope as many in as he can. Lame. And lame on you lot who buy into such lame manipulation. That aside, Spielberg + kids = lame. Sure, ET was great, a gazillion years ago. JJ has a spotty track record, and for the record, Cloverfield was awful when it could so easily have been great. Star Trek was pretty great. MI kinda lame. I will never forgive him for how Lost or Alias wrapped up. Fringe is so far kind of great. So in total, nothing here worth a trip to the house of savages that charges $10+ after you spent god knows in gas to get there. PPV or Netflix, I'm an adult and can wait.
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Hey I don't know if anyone already knows but on the fandango clip if you pause at 23 seconds you see a web address. S8editingroom.com its very intriguing... I don't want to spoiler it for you. But it gives us more clues on what "it" may be.
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way past Assy's bedtime, so I guess that's why he hasn't been here to shit all over this project and his sworn enemy/gay love fantasy J.J. As for me, this one might get my ass down to the Drafthouse.
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Hes had a pretty good one. You just sound like most of the population.. grumpy. If you could at least suspend disbelief for a bit you might have a good time. And personally I though MI:3 was the best out of the films (thus far) but everyone has their own opinion.
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May 13, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST
I just hope the monster is as half as bad ass as the creature from Outlander
by Andy Pandy
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I'm 90% certain it will be at the very least 'misunderstood' ... Talking about the 'The Thing' is going to give people hopes that will be seriously dashed when they finally see it. No way will this be truly horrific.
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Anyone remember JJ's TED lecture. This film is about a collection of mysterious boxes. That can manipulate everything thing. We should call them "Tannens" for the time being. We do not know if there are 8 of them, but we do know there are 3 or more. Thanks to the s8editingroom.com They can attract and manipulate organic and inorganic matter. That's why the dogs run away. That's why cars and trucks and trains flip over. A real train can plow through big rig trucks like a knife through butter without derailing. There are videos on youtube to prove it. They can combined inorganic and organic object and to make forms to fight back. They have telepathic and telekinetic abilities. They can control and damage electrical fields and energy. They can fly. They are indestructible. I'm pretty damn sure about this. There is no big ugly creature from outer space. It's a collection metallic gobstopper/rubix cubish box shaped creatures that can control pretty much everything. I too am wondering if they collect a bunch of pets and bugs and random objects and piece them up into a large beast somehow. Like Legos.
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It's a creature with powerful telekinesis, a military experiment. When finally revealed, it will turn out to be something like a tiny chipmunk with big brown eyes. Somebody will step on it by accident.
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says there is a creature as well. With tentacals. There are tons of those cubes in the film but I dont want to spoil the scene that explains how Joe got one of them. So I guess there is a creature as well.
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May 13, 2011, 8:50 p.m. CST
"It's a collection metallic gobstopper/rubix cubish box shaped creatures"
by GINGE_MUPPET
You know, I hope it is ... Would be worth it just to see this place go fucking nuts! ...
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There's more imagination and creativity in one episode of DOCTOR WHO than in all the works of JJ Abrams combined. The prolonged tease is always a letdown with that guy.
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May 13, 2011, 9 p.m. CST
The alien doesn't have to be Predator or a Xenomorph, but let it kill some people.
by JuanSanchez
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Done and done.
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the trailers are evoking the magical and wonder of THOSE kinds of movies far more than the suspense and horror of MOST of those movies that they say influence this. I gotta say, the Cocoon music in the trailer sets me up for a family fantasy movie, NOT something derived from The Thing, Scanners, Slumber Party Massacre, or any other gory horror flick schlock fest catering to bloodthirsty virgin boys in the 80s. I'll be first to say, those movies are shit. I don't care how in love people are with The Thing, I hated it. I think this movie just slipped from being one I want to see to one I might just skip.
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May 13, 2011, 9:36 p.m. CST
The boxes might be good guys and the squid creature might be a bad guy
by TheJudger
The Tannen cube didnt kill Joe and Alice when they were studying it. The HP Lovecraft creature is killing people in the trailers. It greased the cop at the gas station. It greased the teenaged gas station attendant, and it greased the "nancy drew" power line repair man in the bucket truck. All of those deaths were done by the HP Lovecraft monster. Not the Tannen cubes. Whos to say the train only carried one type of alien. The cubes might be the Bodi/Solarbabies good guys.
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that can vibrate your privates at 100 yards. An experimental porn industry technology.
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May 13, 2011, 9:51 p.m. CST
is this place spoiler free? I aint clicking on any more posts till i know for sure
by alexander
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May 13, 2011, 9:52 p.m. CST
I'm not sure how JAWS, ALIEN, THE THING, SLUMBER PARTY MASSACRE (?!) and SCANNERS can inspire a heartwarming PG-13 fable...
by CountryBoy
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May 13, 2011, 10 p.m. CST
I only know what I see in the trailers- Not an absolute spoiler- More like speculation
by TheJudger
Other than suggesting the title that was actually used. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44867 (The 73rd post down under industrykiller) I know very little about this movie. Like Harry and Nord I think I will refrain from anymore info. I do not want to know until I see the film.
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cause a baby Cthulhu monster would be pre naturally disposed to just eat or kill anyone regardless of the nurture wouldn't it?
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May 13, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST
It's Paul Reiser. They killed his crappy show and he is out for blood
by jupiterjim
or bagels or some such nonsense
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With a dash of Lost Boyz and Iron Giant. Reeks of self-inflated pseudo-importance. Show me something in a trailer that puts a character in real peril so I can get invested. As of now, It's just another diner with a different name and I'll keep driving.
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Looks like pretty run-of-the-mill sci-fi to me, judging from the trailers I've seen so far. Then again, I'm not playing the, "Which clever references has J.J. Abrams thrown out so far" game, like Harry apparently is. I'm far, far more interested in Cowboys Vs. Aliens than this, based on the marketing released so far.
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May 13, 2011, 11:47 p.m. CST
It's Nero, and he's trying to kill Spock's human great-great-great-great grandfather!
by MrMysteryGuest
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That is all…
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May 14, 2011, 1:21 a.m. CST
I remember ppl saying Cloverfield was like a new Star Wars...
by sonnyfern
This is probably going to be the same. Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure it's going to be a cool, fun movie and all. But I'm not going to get caught up in the hype again.
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May 14, 2011, 1:38 a.m. CST
speaking of Jonny Quest why hasn't anyone med a big budget summer action film with that property?
by Chain
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people gave a lot of shit to Cloverfield, but monster design aside, that film was frikin awesome. I gave a shit about the characters, when loss happened it was effective, and he knew how to stage a creepy scene where we knew exactly as much as the characters. I'm excited for Super 8 and having Spielberg aboard makes it that much more epic. Cannot wait for this film.
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May 14, 2011, 2:06 a.m. CST
speaking of Jonny Quest why hasn't anyone med a big budget summer action film with that property?
by Roger Moon
It's because Jonny gets intimate with a Paki in a turban and a dog. It gets lonely on the jet and Race often has to be dragged from the bath houses by Dr. Quest. No one wants to talk about it, like the Soviet empire. It just is. A sad is.
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Pure Speilburg. Sold.
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It's because Hadji is a greasy dot head.
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Got me stumped. And yay for Super 8. Looks very interesting, and I will be checking it out for sure.
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What the fuck?? Great fuckin' movie. lots of tits and gore. love it
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Alien of origin. Sorry for spoiling it for everyone.
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Haven't seen that film in years. RDJ was brilliant in it, especially the ending.
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May 14, 2011, 6:40 a.m. CST
Speaking of mysteries,from what movie is Harry's animated gif?
by KilliK
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What's with the fuckin pseudo-dino animal sounds??? If those are there that means it's a creature and yet ANOTHER creature smashing things up = been there, done that. Invisible energy would be better. NO creature!! Abrams is capable of good things but he's yet to make an out-and-out excellent movie. Now is that time! The time for him to prove himself to all. Then the next Star Trek should, hopefully, rocket him into the stratosphere.
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Do I need to hand over my geek card again? I only know that looks like a film I seriously need to check out as soon as possible.
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May 14, 2011, 7:06 a.m. CST
that monster looks allergic to bagels (probably the wheatflour)
by alexander
its angry because no one will acknowledge its allergies here on Earth.
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I have to honest I was way more excited about what the viral marketing of Cloverfield infered about the movie (similarities to that Akira remake, only not a bs-from-the-sounds-of-it Akira remake, plus SUBTLE) than anything the trailers showed in the movie. But for this, i am really genuinely excited and cautiously optimistic. Oh yeah, its a baby Cloverfield monster. Clovey just wanted its baby back or the whereabouts, and then everyone just had to make a shit load of noise in hysteria that drives its bat-like senses nuts and triggers it into a rage! The Secret administratiion knew it maaan, they knew it and they didn't do a god damn thing! They thought it would be minor and save the economy with insurance and... what's, that, in, my, ne-
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May 14, 2011, 7:36 a.m. CST
Abrams is just full of shit. Too bad it's viewed as him being a genius.
by alienindisguise
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We need that stuff, horror would do so much better if it just understood the brilliance of a film like Alien / The Thing
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You can pretty clearly see a tentacle like hand gripping the feet of the gas station kid when he's being attacked at the door. It's probably like Cloverfield and the Smoke Monster both got jammed into a single cgi fest. The cubes might be a advanced form of defense/offensive technology that it controls. Like a robot rover or a computer to us. Basically a tool to get the hell off this crazy ball of dirt with it's scalpel happy primates.
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I like that we have something that isn't a 100% known quantity until it comes out. That makes it fun. All these influences will be interesting to try and pinpoint n the film. Sort of Tarantino-like. But this... "I have spoke to people that have seen SUPER 8..." Come on. It is "spoken to" not "spoke to." The biggest problem with this site is the utter lack of correct grammar and spelling by the reviewers.
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What makes him similar to Speilberg is his feel for the moment and for what makes a film an "event". We'll see how his career unfolds. If he is going to leave behind a canon of classic films he's directed, he better get started. Star Trek was fun, but nobody will ever group it with Jaws, Close Encounters, E.T., etc. As for LOST...the pilot was simply amazing. The series itself is more the creation of Lindelof and Cuse, so Abrams only gets so much credit. I hope Super 8 is an instant classic, but they only come around so often. - As for Cloverfield (produced by Abrams) - I too believe that flick is under-rated. It's bot something I want to watch over and over again, but I liked it in the theater and I remember the audience gripping their seats waiting to see what was going to happen. It didn't have a predictable ending...the cast was actually quite good in it...blah blah blah.
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May 14, 2011, 9:46 a.m. CST
It's strange how JJ gets blamed for Cloverfield when he didn't write or direct it
by Bob of the Shire
It's sort of like blaming Tarantino for "Hero" or any of those other mediocre films he presents.
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I really want this to be good. But I find Abrams over hypes his movies to the point that people expect too much. He needs to tone it down a little. Just sayin.
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J.J. Abrams produced it. Please check IMDB. Thanks.
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We're all gonna die.
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Hero is a fantastic film and better than any of Tarantino's overrated shite. Zhang Yimou has more talent in his taint hairs than Tarantino's entire body.
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Hero is a brilliant film and QT's name just taints the DVD box so bad. I know. I'm looking at it right now. Ugh.
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That's what puts bums in the seats.
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May 14, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST
Star Trek was "fucking excellent" as well. And it was shit.
by Fortunesfool
Stop buying this guys bullshit. He's a self promoting TV hack without a cinematic bone in his body and needs to get back to TV and leave cinema to people who understand what they're doing.
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its not an alien - but the result of army experiments - an invisible "id monster" was created as a weapon - the creature is a physical (but invisible) manifestation of the human unconscious mind - the id - the superego - it escapes and eventually acquires visible form and self awareness - personality - it communicates with the kids because they are innocent and can sympathize - if this is not the plot/monster it should be
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like in the 70s
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It's getting downright annoying.<br> <br> <br>
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Where this things hides. And the element of water will play a big role.
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thats enough for me to spend 8 bucks on this and get out of the summer heat for 2 hours
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See -- I can do lens flares, too!! <br> <br>
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Mission Impossible 3: Terrible. <p> Star Trek: Terrible: <p> Super 8: ?
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The first Mission Impossible film was ok but very overwrought and predictable and Brian De Palma directed in a very hamfisted style that has only gotten worse since then and he is now a completely incompetent director. MI:2 was and still is the absolute worst and most dreadful film that John Woo has ever directed and I swear that it has to have started out as a different script and movie and got barfed into a Mission Impossible film when it really seems like a bargain basement James Bond movie. It's a total piece of shit. MI:3 is an awesome movie and really represents the concept and spirit of Mission Impossible very well and has a genuine teamwork aspect to everything and a good plot and story and is overall a very good film. If you saw it and did not know that J.J. Abrams was the director and then attached your douchey hate for him to it you would say that it was a good movie so shut the fuck up already you cocks.
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sorry im drunk today and watching kung fu movies. but my point still stands.
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Sorry, but Spielberg's name has no hard geek cred any more... OK he hasn't turned to shit quite as completely as Lucas... but he has turned into some kind of Godhead figure who doesn't deliver quality entertainment anymore, just brand recognition. As for Abrams... I actually enjoyed Star Trek and Cloverfield. Neither one rocked my world. Someone on here said "he's dependable," and that's spot on, if you add "a little more savvy than people give him credit for." Still, he ain't any John Carpenter. He is a Spielberglucas beast in embryo, or an inferior form of John Lassiter, as a storyteller. And the "alien?" 1000 to 1 it will be misunderstood, "friendly" in some way, and a CGI lump of ugliness in every way. I'd bet my ancestors and whatever money they might have scraped up on it... this will skew extremely on the family friendly side. It's being positioned that way for a reason.
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picking at the carcass of Gen X pop culture, half-digesting what he finds and regurgitating it into the eager chirping mouths of idiot fanboys.
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May 14, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST
SUPER 8" WILL FUCK YOU IN THE ASS WITH ITS LONG COCK AND ALIEN BALLS
by Russell
THIS SUMMER ITS CUMMING INSIDE OF YOU
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May 14, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST
Abrams is a solid director that has delivered solid films! No one is saying he's a ground breaking visionary that has changed the industry.
by The Founder
You haters need to stop with the BS. If you dontlike Abram's film then it's fine but to call the man a hack is silly. You can tell rather u like his films or not that he is a solid and capable director. I've liked all his films and will be seeing Super 8
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May 14, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST
If someone here can deliver better then Abrams them be my guest
by The Founder
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May 14, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST
Ive liked all of Abrams films and I will be seeing Super8!
by The Founder
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Only good reviews from trusted sources, and tits, will.
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so shut the hell up, no one except you gives a gunt about your comments on here either, bitches.
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Sweet little ET is all growed up and looking for some payback..........
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seen from the viewpoint of kids.
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... And say that Super 8 will NOT live up to being compared to The Thing, Jaws, CE3K, and Alien. Be realistic, people... for fuck's sake.
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IT'S HUGE!
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RUN!
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[Suddenly Elliot sees a squirming movement from inside ET's body. He looks closer, then BOOM -- a facehugger shoots out of ET's corpse and wraps around Elliot's head. Elliot writhes and falls backwards, the ET facehugger firmly bonded to him.]
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May 14, 2011, 3:36 p.m. CST
its's a cross between a super electo magnetic conducting mini Iron Giant and what ginge_muppet descrbes above!
by alexander
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Sure thing--as long as you'll agree to produce my movie for the tune of, say, 50 million US dollars or so.
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but you can call him SNAKE.
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Lousy Smarch weather.
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May 14, 2011, 4:55 p.m. CST
Abrams isn't a solid director. Peter Weir is a solid director.
by Fortunesfool
Abrams doesn't understand the basics of cinema. Any idiot can shake a camera about then dump the footage into an editors lap to try and make sense of it. Stick some lens flares over the resulting mess to distract from the fact that nothing you've shot cuts together in any meaningful way and, hey presto, you got yourself a blockbuster and the keys to Hollywood.
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May 14, 2011, 4:59 p.m. CST
I hope he proves the haters wrong with this
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
I too thought MI3 was the best of the series. So he's fucking solid in my book. I really liked Trek but gotta admit it was kinda boring the second go-around.
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May 14, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST
Fine, I'll be the cynic. This article & the over-the-top, Christmas morning jitter, GOTTA-SEE IT comments are PAID ADVERTISING for another JJ flop-sterpiece
by gruntybear
It happened with Lost (and no, I don't give a flying fuck whether Dicknose actually had a hand in the series as a whole, it's still a huge part of Jar-Jar's resume). It happened with Cloverfield. It happened with Star Trek. It's happening again with Super 8. Random geek film site non-stories mewling expectantly and doing the "pee-pee" dance about the ammmmmaaaaazzzing "mystery" that is Dicknose's latest hokum forced on the world. An army of cookie-cutter comments in the talkbacks jumping generically on the bandwagon, screaming like a pack of pre-menstral Bieber-heads that "They. Can't. Wait." for this second coming of Dicknose's latest re-imagined property. Oodles of idle speculation and/or ARG labyrinths of peripheral and barely relevant "secret" hype websites. You know, for the internet shut-ins that actually care about that stupid, stupid videogame shit. On the weekend of the film's opening, an army of disgustingly over-the-top, but alarmingly similar comments about how, yes, there might have been story and/or logic flaws, but geez, nerds, that JJ film was just balls-out awesome anyway, YO!!! Every one of which first has to be qualified with the statement that "I'm not normally a sci-fi kind of guy" or "I'm not normally into monster flicks like that" - y'know, the film geek equivalent to "no homo" - to prove that Joe Mainstream Dunderhead is somehow spearheading this unexpected cross-over "hit." Endless post-film reinforcement of those same, opening weekend "not a nerd, but I loved me some JJ" comments - all of which come at too regular a pace and too similar in their phrasings to be random, honest or individual praise. In other words, this is the hype engine that normally surrounds a Dicknose production. I don't buy that any of it is accidental. I don't buy that any of it is spontaneous or homegrown. Ask anyone IRL about JJ and his films and you'll draw a complete blank on the guy. But online, where it's cheaper to pay a band of typists to create false hype over the latest empty-headed JJ re-creation, I would not put it past the marketers of this man's output to be behind every last "I can't wait, YO!" on this talkback. This is all marketing, at its most cynical. ALL. OF. IT.
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May 14, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST
I WANT TO THANK JJ FOR BRINGING CHRIS HEMSWORTH TO MY ANUS' ATTENTION
by BSB
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..now is Harry's "Super 8 fever" a self-inflicted virus or the result of weeks of Studio freebies and perks?
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Trust me, I´m not. I might check it up whenever it´s on TV one of these years. But anticipation? Zero. Yawn.
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....simply because it looks like shit. NOTHING Abrams does, impresses me. He's just a guy that got a lucky break.
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May 14, 2011, 6:31 p.m. CST
blond sideburned guy is the inspiration for the thing
by Ellis Hubschman
I believe the glimpses you see of the bloodied screaming blond sideburned man is what jj's referring to when he says that The Thing was an inspiration for this movie. It seems to me that the man will become possessed in some way by whatever came out of the train. In the last clip at 00:21, there's no way that's human.
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the unbelievably lame title "Super 8," you can tell they are now downplaying the wonder-of-childhood-filmmaking angle — because it's so retarded and unappealing — and playing up the "horror" angle. Note that I use horror in quotes, since (among many other problems) this looks like an entirely un-scary movie. I guess Abrams thought layering in some faux-Carpenter shtick would make this unholy mess more palatable. (It won't.)
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Maybe the E.T. wanna-be marketing failed miserably now they're going back to canned-action-movie-trailer formula.
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May 14, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST
another problem is there's no recognisable stars
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
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alot of people talk about how they grew up w/ this film or that film.. I did grow watching E.T., Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Star Wars, Indiana Jones etc.. Have always been a huge mark for Spielberg, and i definitely see the similarities between this movie and those gems from the late 70's/early 80's. The only thing that could put this over the top is if the whateverthefuckitis doesnt have Abrams CGI written all over, and is more man made along the lines of E.T. Bash Away..
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I am aware that Spielberg had nothing to do with the Wars, but i had to mention it just because its fucking Star Wars..
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except for peter cushing and alec guiness (old guys with no box office appeal at the time), there were no "stars" in star wars
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im not a giant fan of his either - but he is one of the very few out there making stuff "we" like - cloverfield (producer) star trek and now this - i didnt want to like his trek but i did - except for the rampant over use of fake lens flares i liked star trek a lot - and super 8 looks like it will be even better - no one else out there right now is making a movie like this with spielberg money behind it - be grateful - even if its not a masterpiece when you think of the ton of shit out there for it to compete with why attack this - the trailers make me want to see it - thats rare these days
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I am an Ass... with a very poor memory
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Good. I'm getting pretty fucking bored with the basics of cinema. As am I with people who express their displeasure for something on here by going "yawn" or worse simply "looks like shit" like a proper Queen or Princess
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and a special what-the-now cube or whatever they are
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May 15, 2011, 12:48 a.m. CST
na just in terms of box office success, right now it's in trouble
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
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May 15, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST
film student noobs don't understand the basics of cinema
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
you guys say the stupidest shit. A guy that's been so successful that Steven Spielberg agreed to partner with him on a project "doesn't understand the basics of cinema" No, you fucktards don't understand the basics of common sense.
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I liked Locks_Broken_Leg more. Wonder what he'll turn up as next?
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You really think he's associating with Abrams for any reason other than the fact that his name is bringing in money. No one (hopefully) will watch Mi3 or Star Trek and 'learn' how to make a film from it - it's just bad film-making. The composition is terrible, nothing cuts together, it's just cut and paste, edited in a blender garbage. Can anyone tell me a memorable line of dialogue from any Abrams movie?
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May 15, 2011, 3:35 a.m. CST
JJ knows how to make mass appeal flicks...but he ain't no fuckin "Visionary"
by conspiracy
The guy seems to know how to put butts in seats and eyes on screens...and in today's movie business that is really all that counts. JJ knows how to put together shots...no doubt there; but his choice of collaborators so far has made his end product "workman like" at best. Cloverfield was a mess from start to finish...with the most unlikable characters ever put to film. Shaky cam, and shit story made me long for some more TOHO output. Now, Star Trek was wonderfully shot (lens flares excepted), and his design people really did a top job... BUT FUCK THAT SCRIPT...fuck it in it's illogical, loophole filled, wouldn't pass muster as a script for "That's So Raven", What the Fuck, ass. Entertaining? Sure...so is watching bums fight. But it's a film I put on as background filler while I go to sleep, nothing more. In fact... when I try to REALLY watch it..I find something new to bitch about. It is SO fucked up I find myself channeling my dead grandmother as I talk to the screen like Alex and Roberto can hear me..."What the fuck is THIS? A Fold out Ginsu...couldn't you just write Sulu shooting the Fucker Indy Style you HACKS?" That movie from start to finish is one big "Huh? Why? Fuck that makes no sense!" And don't get me started on Spielberg...as someone said..he is a businessman, he'll produce anything that he or his marketing folks think will make a buck....the bastard just bought a $200M yacht and diesel and Russian Cabin Girls ain't cheap. Remember he plastered his name all over Bayformers too...yeah, that was fucking quality. Maybe he, JJ and their agents all go to the same Synagogue and struck up a production deal over some Pastrami and Manischewitz...who knows. So The Beard being on board doesn't mean shit till we see this thing. Rant over....I'll watch it...but I'm going it without Rose Tinted, lovely Childhood memory inducing classes on. No free passes...if it sucks it sucks, if it's good it's good. looks 50/50 right now.
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watch the "extras" on the Star Trek DVD...Alex and Bob get about 30 seconds....the set designers, Graphics guys, and Assistant Director get about 3 minutes....and the other 25 or so is a complete vanity piece on how "Genius" JJ is for jacking off the camera while it's rolling. Funniest fucking thing I've seen as an extra in many a moon...worth buying it just for the yuks this alone provides.
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...and it blew my mind a little. I don't need to see any more footage at this point; they've sold me. Going dark from here.<P><P>If he has successfully merged the magic of Spielberg (which I have my reserves about - that trailer may have just been very cleverly cut, and the score matched it perfectly) with Carpenter-esque machismo/horror, then we might be looking at something really special.<P><P>Might.
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May 15, 2011, 7:11 a.m. CST
My friend has seen part of this film, and he says it's a monster movie
by Nabster
He said it was kinda cool and kinda homo at the same time. But that's Spielberg for you.
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Whether it was because of his persistent homophobia, trolling in general, or that he was in fact a stalker simply impersonating the Ryan Pom fella of twitter: RIP Braindrain.
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May 15, 2011, 7:42 a.m. CST
Can anyone tell me a memorable line of dialogue from any Abrams movie?
by alexander
"What?...Whats that?...." "I, GOT, YOUR, GUN!" *blam*
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die from aids please you annoying cunt
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please give it to your ignorant whore Mum whos been dodging that bullet with her ragged out human jizz mop toothless mouth for a while while your at it, ta very much
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He doesn't do scary anymore. It's a film with kids - probably more Goonies than Poltergeist....just worse :s
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At least Abrams is trying to come up with something thats at least half original. All it seems today is remakes, sequels, sidequels and general crap. I hope this movie does well at the box office. Hes a good director and writter to boot. And my vote is for him to drect the Star Trek sequel as well. :]
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And IT is VERY SIMILAR to Cloverfield. So stop all this nonsense of it being 'original.' It's a Spielberg film, its incapable of being original. Its just about some homosexual Monster that is destroying the town. And its got some annoying out of touch characters that act and look like they live in 50s America.
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Which is more terrifying.
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There's a theme of fate and destiny which the writers hoped would clear up some of those alleged plot holes.
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Check.
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Nice to see someone who gets irony on this site.
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May 15, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST
It's the MK Ultra experiment victim Casper the Ghost!
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
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May 15, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST
You mean the alien is nabsters toothless whore mum with a strap on and her son strapped to her back with a mouth full of semen from his daddy of the week
by alexander
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May 15, 2011, 7 p.m. CST
while his real hobo daddy is off wandering the streets crying for himself
by alexander
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I have a feeling it's gonna be full of plot holes like most of Abrams movies . Still keeping my fingers crossed though!
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Only explanation, where is he? I am missing the witty Jar Jar Abrams nickname only a genius at his level could say.
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...the creature as a baby was being shipped via Government Railroad when the trail derailed and the creature escaped into a small town which is now under quarantine as part of the government's coverup. The kids saw it all because they were doing a school project on Super 8 video near the tracks when all help broke loose but they failed to see the creature escape until they reviewed the tape and saw what the camera saw. The government hears they have a tape and comes after them. The baby is all cute and friendly much like ET but grows into a terrifying creature that still listens to the kids (like that show "Surface").
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Anyone been here yet? It's a treasure trove of super 8 movies made by the government.
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May 15, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST
Great, I can spend all day looking for the Super 8 monster, like I did with The Host
by Seph_J
http://t.co/GoOq3mS
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for a while since being announced that seems most likely, and despite this apparant editing room business that i don't want to give away seeing as anyones free to check it out themselves, i just think its part of buliding a grand mythology into the whole cloverfield business: this i like. So im guessing it's a) cloverfield monsters baby b) clovefield monster itself, its origions c) something heavily related to an over all grander mythology of 'Cloverfield' in some kind of its own Cthulhu/Elder-Older Ones type idea of sorts or d) none of this, and its just some clever misinformation recently developed to rope people like myself who have speculated this for a while, like APPARENTLY stuff hidden in Cloverfields credits... and more to do with its own 'cube' business in relation to c) and the editing room stuff but regardless, i'm just pretty exited for the film on its own based on the trailers.
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May 15, 2011, 9:22 p.m. CST
piss off xianglef you half-wit ass, no one gives a shit about the unwitty simpleton point your trying to make
by alexander
your fathers dead
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May 15, 2011, 9:39 p.m. CST
What Is Super 8? A Spielberg Fetish Film Produced By Spielberg Himself? Presenting the Spielberg Brand To A New Generation
by NeonFrisbee
Can you blame them, though? They're set to make fistfulls of cash. Me? No interest. Instead, maybe I'll rewatch Close Encounters and save my money.
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It's going to be unrealistically fast. So most of the time it'll be a blur on screen. It'll lack weight distribution and not be as cool as the T-Rex in JP and be pretty unremarkable to look at, like most CG these days.
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-if it was Cloverfield 2...they would've called it...Cloverfield 2....they wouldn't miss the marketing tie in. I hope to GOD it's not a bunch of alien fucking squares...that sounds so terrible.
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May 16, 2011, 12:02 a.m. CST
true a lot of cg monsters don't look very cool
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
I'm gonna guess this one is a disappointment.
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May 16, 2011, 1:43 a.m. CST
braindrain got banned and viggeo is still trolling around? Proof that there is no justice.
by RobertoInfinite
I found braindrain mildly annoying but not as dickish as viggeo. Must've pissed off the wrong guy.
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May 16, 2011, 1:43 a.m. CST
"The Bulls ain't making it past the Hawks" - BWAHAHAHAHA
by RobertoInfinite
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May 16, 2011, 1:44 a.m. CST
They just raped Miami by 21 points. Outscored by our BENCH.
by RobertoInfinite
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a bunch of loser naysayers who do nothing but complain and bitch about stuff they couldn't do themselves. Seriously, what is with you bitches? You really don't like Spielberg?-- his body of work is not good? idiots ! Bash Cameron, bash Spielberg, bash Lucas, Bash JJ Abr. etc... it's incessant. Have any of you losers done anything remotely in the same plane of existence as these masters of their trade. And if you think Lucas was a 3 horse Pony, then who gives a shit what you think? He made Star Wars-- what did you make? He made ILM and Skywalker sound and was there when Pixar started. Really, if you al hate movies and TV and these people so much, stop watching things on screens and your bellyaching about every single pixel you bitch over.
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Will be, do the kids figure out something from the movie footage that gets them in good with the alien or helps it be destroyed, etc.... Will it have the warmth and soul of E.T. the fun and bonding of Goonies, the sheer fun of Raiders ?
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are you stupid guys ? he didn't direct it, matt reeves (let me in) did. it's like when a new spielberg movie comes out and everybody cries "transformers, transformers"
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May 16, 2011, 6:43 a.m. CST
CplHicks - Did you just put Abrams alongside Lucas, Cameron and Spielberg???
by Fortunesfool
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I see Joe Dante all over these trailers. Is JJ trying to kid me or what?
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Cool, but still not enough for me to recognize him as a top tier director. Thanks for acknowledgement of Carpenter's classic films,though.
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Jeebsus, WTF is with this guy? However, I can think of a few trolls who deserve a banning moreso than Lockes. Yeah, no justice is right.
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CE3K. Fridge gets slop all over the place ET. ET fucks up stuff in fridge makes mess Indy 4. Dont ask. Too stupid to talk about The man should be on that "Taboo" show for his love fest with refrigerators Watch. Super 8 will have a scene with a gunk and slop gooshing out of a fridge (kid watching open mouthed and oh my gosh! face) Squishy goosh noise amped up.
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the origin of Slusho? I mean come on people, get your priorities straight!
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My first link click was at Answers.com and it read: I'm not sure about what happened in terms of the history of the world, but where I'm from that was the day of the big train wreck. Our town was forever changed by that day. YES. After what came out, nothing was the same... I remember kids were making a zombie film with a Super 8 when it happened, they saw everything... Later on, some of us heard the warning: Do not speak of this. If you do, they will find you. But then on my second link I clicked at HistoryOrb.com: Cheri Oterri was born. Now.....I don't know about what you're thinking, but a crazy hellbent Cheri Oterri related mutant (or twin offspring)by the government escaping due to a train wreck that is covered up still until this day? That sounds like a scary movie!
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I have noticed a lot of hate for George Lucas on this and other sites. Let me say this, IMO the man will ALWAYS rank up there with the greatest to ever get behind a camera or sit down to write a story, period. The man created THE movie that literally changed the motion picture industry. Of course there are many others that contributed greatly. But Star Wars blew the worlds mind in 1977 (I was 7 when I seen it) and if he never had done a thing after that achievment he would still be one of the greatest just for that!
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May 16, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST
mugato5150: my prefered form of short hand criticism/ribbing
by alexander
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I kinda liked him. I think he took sides with me one time when I was being attacked by douchers on the TB boards...
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May 16, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST
was anyone able to confirm he was actually Ryan Pom of Twitter?
by alexander
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From the tv spot it looks like last friday when my wife went nuts at me coming in from the pub at 4.30 a.m!!!!!!!
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and sentimental. That nonsense once worked for an older lamer generation. But a gay version of Cloverfield isn't good enough anymore.
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One hanging lower than the other.
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That's what I'm getting from the hype. Good for him! We all got sumpin' in common. I'm sure I'll like his movie as well.
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is it friendly to the kids do the kids know it's really not hostile or do they know how to kill it based on something on the tape
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