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Will Smith To Star In QT's DJANGO UNCHAINED?

 

Beaks here...

Borys Kit at The Hollywood Reporter just gave us one hell of a scoop to mull over this weekend: Quentin Tarantino reportedly wants Will Smith to star in DJANGO UNCHAINED.

(If you are trying to stay 100% spoiler free on DJANGO UNCHAINED, stop reading now.)

I have yet to read the script (may have to give in this weekend, since everyone's hellbent on spoiling the fucker), but Kit says Smith would indeed play the titular freed slave who joins forces with a German bounty hunter whilst trying to reunite with his wife. Smith would join the already-cast Christoph Waltz (as a German bounty hunter who teams up with Django) and Samuel L. Jackson (who is evidently set to play the house slave of an evil plantation owner).

Kit makes it sound like QT is courting Smith (who reportedly has not been offered the role yet), but according to Jeff Goldsmith (former editor of Creative Screenwriting and moderator of the excellent Q&A podcast), Smith is keen to work with Tarantino. If true, all they need to do now is get the money right. The film will be distributed by The Weinstein Company domestically, while a major studio (perhaps Universal) will handle international.

Let's hope it comes to pass. Smith is a terrific actor, but he hasn't really challenged himself since Michael Mann's ALI (though I really dug his work in I AM LEGEND). This could be that Best Actor role he's been chasing for years. What do you guys think?

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  • May 6, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    An obvious way to go, but yeah, this could be fucking awesome.

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Will can do great work, on occasion.

  • May 6, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    contract clause

    by wiseguy100

    tarantino will have to amend the script to add a bunch of "aww hell no"

  • May 6, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Qt wants Will Smith???

    by Mr Soze

    Wow...

  • May 6, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    wow

    by Timahh

    never thought i'd see the fresh prince in a movie made by the guy from Resevoir Dogs. 1992 me would be so skeptical.

  • May 6, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Is there anything...

    by ZombieKingdom

    that Will Smith can't make completely mediocre? Ho-fucking-hum.

  • May 6, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Sure, why not? As long as

    by kafka07

    Sammy Jackson gets to break his slave chains and kill the evil plantation owner, I'm game.

  • May 6, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Will Smith is a great actor.

    by blackwood

    Which I first discovered in SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION. Yeah, he's taken a lot of "Fresh Prince But..." roles (MiB, WWW, ID4), but they aren't the sum total of what he can do. I also thought his turn in I AM LEGEND was stellar. I hope this happens. I think it's a nice match.

  • hilarious quote from THR article... yeah, im on board with this...think Smith is the bees knees

  • May 6, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Hilarious....

    by Nice Marmot

    QT knows it would be the shot in the arm Smith's career has needed for a while but he'll be too much of a chicken shit goody two shoes to take the part.

  • But he is talented, and I trust QT.

  • May 6, 2011, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Denzel is the Man

    by mrbagwell

    I haven't seen any of the Django movies and all I know about the plot of this is what I've ready online....but first actor I thought of for the lead was Denzel Washington. Is he too old for this character? Also love to see Brad Pitt as an evil plantation owner.

  • May 6, 2011, 6:38 p.m. CST

    eddie murphy!

    by professorjack

    c'mon, he needs a good role. although its his own fault, when offered a movie the only thing he reads is the pay check

  • May 6, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Smith also passed on playing Morpheus in The Matrix

    by Billy_D_Williams

    Is he dumb enough to make two colossal career fuck ups in one lifetime?

  • May 6, 2011, 6:43 p.m. CST

    i heard smith has a lot of creative influence...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ...on his projects - in other words, he needs to be involved beyond just showing up to play his part - or he wont do it - maybe its not true - but he is that big of a star - there are a few - like cruise - i cant see smith doing this - he is a squeaky clean brand - this movie will be filled with gore, the n word, tons of gore and a lot of bad taste = will his son have a cameo? - too bad wesley snipes is in jail - he would be perfect for this

  • May 6, 2011, 6:45 p.m. CST

    tracey morgan

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • May 6, 2011, 6:45 p.m. CST

    dave chapelle

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • May 6, 2011, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Michael Steele

    by dr sauch

  • May 6, 2011, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Lol jk.

    by dr sauch

  • May 6, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    jimmyjoe redsky

    by the_one_that_says_BADMUTHAFUCKER

    "i cant see smith doing this - he is a squeaky clean brand - this movie will be filled with gore, the n word, tons of gore and a lot of bad taste" Uh, not to be a smart ass but, have you seen Bad Boys II?!

  • May 6, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Fuck that nigger...he can keep his chains

    by Majority

    That kid of his too

  • May 6, 2011, 7 p.m. CST

    Michael Jai White, if we're just throwing out names...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ...he would also be highly acceptable.

  • May 6, 2011, 7 p.m. CST

    ...Tracy Morgan... [slaps forehead]

    by WriteForTheEdit

    I'll bet even Tarantino could somehow pull that off...

  • May 6, 2011, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Awww HELL NYEEEEEAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

  • May 6, 2011, 7:07 p.m. CST

    This actually sounds good

    by D o o d

    I also think will smith is a good actor. Just needs the right roles. Whatever is to be said about the man, he's got screen presence and charm that's hard to ignore. The only thing I'm not sure is the casting of Christoph Waltz as a german again in a Tarantino movie! Talk about being typecast!

  • May 6, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Smith is not a fucking terrific actor!!! QT DON'T DO THIS

    by IndustryKiller!

    He showed promise when he was younger, but both his talent and charisma haven't morphed into something deeply trouble and worst of all, uninteresting to watch. Case and point, the mannequin scene in I Am Legend, watch Smith flail impotently trying to hit an emotional stride that eludes him utterly. He's a lightweight still coasting off hte good will of the past. The man generally makes horrible movies and worst of all he corrupts amazing source material to make them. This is a practice that is nothing short of cynical and transparent in it's obvious pandering tot he lowest common denominator.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST

    industrykiller

    by Billy_D_Williams

    "He's a lightweight still coasting off hte good will of the past." "Ali" would like a word with you...

  • May 6, 2011, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Can you please ban Majority for that repugnant comment? Seriously guys

    by IndustryKiller!

    If you let that stand then shame on you.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST

    an actor's choice in projects does not represent his acting talent

    by Billy_D_Williams

    look at Deniro circa the last ten years for christ sake. Not comparing Smith to Deniro, just saying... Smith is a fine actor imprisoned by his "image". all he needs to do is let QT chip away at that fucker and we may get brilliance...hell it wont be any worse than what Pitt delivered in Basterds... plus this is a genre/exploitation type flick, I dont think anyone is expecting Lawrence Of arabia...I like the Smith angle.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Not likely to happen

    by eazy x

    Remmeber when Mickey Rourke was cast as Vincent Vega? (or was it Michael Madson?) Or when Warren Beatty was for a short period Bill? And what happend to DiCaprio as Landa? Nothing, that's what.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Michael K. Williams

    by george

    Aka Omar from "The Wire." NOT WILL FUCKING SMITH.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Brad Pitt in Inglourious Basterds

    by george

    was awful. This sounds very familiar.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:23 p.m. CST

    He passed on playing NEO, not MORPHEUS

    by 3D-Man

    If you're gonna insult the man, at least get your facts straight.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST

    3D

    by Billy_D_Williams

    yeah, my bad...same fucking point though

  • May 6, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Michael Kenneth Williams

    by Bob

    even Playlist puts him as a top choice after reading script http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/we_read_it_casting_quentin_tarantinos_slavery_epic_django_unchained/

  • May 6, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Idris Elba if Big Willie says no

    by zooch

  • May 6, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST

    ok cant argue with Michael K Williams

    by professorjack

    mothah fuckin' OMAR son

  • May 6, 2011, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Will Smith is a great actor at times...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

  • May 6, 2011, 7:33 p.m. CST

    touche...professorjack, even better suggestion!

    by zooch

  • May 6, 2011, 7:34 p.m. CST

    and movie scene too

    by zooch

  • May 6, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    i also vote for Michael Jai White

    by KilliK

  • May 6, 2011, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Steer clear, Will Smith.

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    Seriously. Will Smith has , as far as I'm concerned, shown his chops as an actor in things like 6 Degrees, Ali, and yes - he was great in the otherwise compromised I Am Legend. He needs to stay the fuck away from this. I can understand why he'd want to work with QT. He's getting to that stage where perhaps hIs name isn't quite alone the draw it once was, but really - fucking stay away from QT. QT is a spent force. I cringe to think what this flick will entail. He's pinched the name from a cult 60s flick (yawn) and appropriated it for himself (yawn) whilst saying he's gonna make his own balls-out Western - or rather, "Southern". Get ready for another 3 hour opus, made up of startlingly disjointed scenes stolen from other films, only vaguely adhering to some form of plot, utterly overwritten and needless, though admittedly well-mounted and wonderfully acted. But without an original frame or thought anywhere therein. And worst of all - prepare for Tarantino's utterly stunted and juvenile version of slavery. The man is clearly not the cleverest or the most enlightened.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Anothny Anderson > Will smith

    by JimboTHC

    I've never sat through a Will Smith movie twice or talked about it the next day. He does campy action films and makes excessive use of the word "DAYUM". He fails horribly. He's as obnoxious as Martin Lawrence and less funny.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Freddy "Boom Boom" Washington.

    by djangoilbastardo

    "Hi there."

  • May 6, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST

    WWW2: Django's revenge

    by KilliK

    i dont think WS will get the role because he has already fucked up another "alternate reality" western. on the other hand he might want to prove that he was not the one responsible for that fiasco and maybe pay some of the budget in order to get the role (along with his son in a secondary role..heh)

  • May 6, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Bill_D ALi isn't NEARLY enough to say that he's great.

    by IndustryKiller!

    I think he's good in Ali, but I wouldn't call it near one of the great biopic performances. There is no question he's at his best coasting off his breezy charm, like Matthew Mcconoughey. Films like Independence Day and Bad Boys, where his obvious self consciousness as an actor is an asset, whereas in drama its a liability. In drama, he's good at acting serious but he's miserable at emoting. A classic case of "If I try really hard, that a substitute for actual feeling." Problem is he only makes horrid genre films now. Like EPICALLY fucking awful. Shit like I Robot and the unwatchable douche bag barometer Hancock. I Am Legend is perhaps one of the most laughable overrated pieces of hackwork of the last decade, and it's based on a book that's just bloody brilliant. He doesn't get nearly enough shit for that film and, like I said, that scene where he has the breakdown talking to the mannequin is almost unintentionally funny. So when people say a choice in projects is not indicative of talent I say in SMiths' case it certainly is.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST

    tommygavinsego well said.

    by KilliK

    QT is very talented but he is also very overrated.what was his last genuine film? pulp fiction? or jackie brown? after that,he has only proved to be only a fanboy with a lot of talent and money to make his own tribute movies.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Michael Jai White.

    by blackwood

    That's a fucking great suggestion. I'd still like to see Smith in the role, but if it doesn't work out, Michael Jai White would be awesome. I have to think QT loved BLACK DYNAMITE.

  • May 6, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Idris Elba and Anthony Mackie are VASTLY superior actors

    by IndustryKiller!

  • May 6, 2011, 8:02 p.m. CST

    "Mr. Fuck up every movie?"

    by KilliK

    yeah he completely fucked up TDK.so true. BOUAHAHAHAHAHAHA GOD I LOVE THIS SITE AND ITS INHABITANTS.

  • but I don't think I should say why. (Spoiler)

  • May 6, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NOOOO!!!!

    by Fixthe Fernback

    Love Tarantino, but loathe Will Smith. If this becomes true then I will be heartbroken. :,,,,,(

  • May 6, 2011, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Sounds ok to me..

    by richievanderlow

    Michael Mann made Will Smith work as Ali... I'm sure Tarantino can make me forget that he's Will Smith for 2-3 hours. The kid has the chops, he just rarely utilizes them to do real acting. We'll see.. I look forward to it either way.

  • May 6, 2011, 8:20 p.m. CST

    That's it! Enough is enough!!

    by Robert79797979

    I've had it with these motha' fuckin' Negros on Masta's motha' fuckin' land.

  • May 6, 2011, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Will Smith........

    by slugracer

    QT should just go ahead with the operation to make himself black already. What are we gonna get from Smith, the "wha" face? A jig? It'll make money because people are supposed to see Will Smith movies no matter how much I Robot sucked.

  • May 6, 2011, 8:26 p.m. CST

    I just watched Godzilla Vs. Batra Vs. Mothra again!! and it was fucking pure joy

    by LegendarySpartanBlood

  • Not good enough. THis is Quentin Tarantino, he deserves better than some guy who has turned in 1 very good performance and a bazillion mediocre to bad ones.

  • May 6, 2011, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Bad idea. And Beaks doesn't know what he's talking about.

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

  • May 6, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST

    I ROBOT didn't suck that much.

    by blackwood

    It sucked, for sure, but it wasn't a complete black hole of suck. It felt like a quarter of the film Proyas wanted to make.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    industrykiller...you could say the same thing about John Travolta

    by Bobo_Vision

    "Guys been in movies 15 years...and all you have is "Saturday Night Fever?"

  • May 6, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Sounds like the MUST SEE Family Film of the Decade!

    by Tim

    Followed by the Human Centipede.

  • Smith CHOOSES to make these horrible movies. He even produces them. He could literally make any film he wants, anything, and he makes lowest denominator trash and raises the bar for nepotism. He also ruins classic stories, on purpose, even know he could get faithful material greenlighted. He's just awful and he has literally no excuse. Travolta was struggling to be taken seriously his entire career up until Pulp Fiction.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:24 p.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by PTSDPete

    Will Smith as Black Vader.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Will Smith is like the black John Travolta, lawl

    by PTSDPete

  • May 6, 2011, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Or the black Eddie Murphy

    by PTSDPete

  • May 6, 2011, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Anyways, he's shit

    by PTSDPete

  • So would Anthony Mackie.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    industrykiller

    by Billy_D_Williams

    its a genre film not Lawrence of arabia, Smith is fine in genre material...we dont need some Day Lewis caliber uber actor for a genre flick...Smith is a great choice.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Might be OK

    by Truxton Spangler

    as long as he doesn't drag his kids along. It looks like this site is blowing gaskets again. What's it been, two months, and there are still issues.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:36 p.m. CST

    So you're saying we don't need a great actor for a Tarantino film?

    by IndustryKiller!

    Every Academy Awards worthy/winning genre film he's made up to this point would beg to differ. And Braindrain is right (can't believe I just said that), this thinking taht genre films are somehow lesser than is nonsense, it wasn't always the popular thinking, and when it wasn't genre films were a lot better.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST

    NO, im saying Smith is not a Day Lewis caliber actor

    by Billy_D_Williams

    which is what you seem to be demanding for a genre movie...Smith is a good actor who can be great with the right material/director

  • May 6, 2011, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Smith backseat directing?

    by MaxCalifornia.

    It's well known that Smith is hands-on in developing all his films, and that when he comes on board anything, it must be rewritten according to "moral principles". I can't see this working with QT, unless Smith puts his ego in check, and when has that ever happened?

  • May 6, 2011, 9:41 p.m. CST

    I don't think Elba/Mackie/Ejiofore are all that out there, billy

    by IndustryKiller!

    Either of those three would be drastically better

  • May 6, 2011, 9:43 p.m. CST

    think of Snaggle Puss before watching "Ali"

    by professorjack

    I'm telling you, you will laugh at everything Will Smith says. Hes doing a Snaggle Puss imitation. Was waiting for Ali to say "exit..stage right even"

  • May 6, 2011, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Aw hell fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck off

    by kabong

    I hope this is just noise to attract investment.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:46 p.m. CST

    maxcalifornia...moral principles? Did you miss Bad Boys 2???

    by Billy_D_Williams

  • May 6, 2011, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Yes it did Blackwood

    by IndustryKiller!

    I Robot is as airheaded as the worst kinds of summer films. It's also a fucking converse commercial. And not just passively, the characters love of Converse is in the fucking script.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST

    industrykiller

    by Billy_D_Williams

    how do you know they'd be better? you haven't even read the script. you have no idea what the character is like. i love how everyone seems to be a fucking expert on who'd be perfect for a role they know virtually ZERO about...im going purely off what's been reported; that QT is flirting with Smith, and if true, I support the casting. We know NOTHING of this character other than he's a freed slave looking to get his wife back and take revenge...thats much too broad to come to a conclusion about who'd be best for the part. Would Peter Sarsgaard have worked as Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction??? No...but he's a great actor and people do like him. So what's the problem? the problem is, the role is written in a specific way, and not just any actor would fit that part...Travolta was QT's choice and it fucking worked. This is what im going off of, i know nothing of the character and only know QT is flirting with Smith...that's fine with me.

  • May 6, 2011, 9:58 p.m. CST

    NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    by pauduro

    Now im NOT going to see this crap THANKS

  • May 6, 2011, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Jaden Smith Unchained

    by Wookie_Weed

    C'mon, do it now!

  • ALL talkbacks are about speculation given the info that we have,a nd given the info that we have, and that I just don't think Smith is a strong actor generally, I would prefer not to see him in this film. And Saarsgaard to Travolta is a huge stretch, but I don't think there's anything Smith can do that any of those actors can't, and probably do better. So there's my point of view on that.

  • May 6, 2011, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Ok that's it

    by Riff_Randell

    If this happens I swear I'll rip both their heads off and piss down their throats! So sick of Will Smith.

  • May 6, 2011, 10:22 p.m. CST

    i heard smith has a lot of creative influence...

    by Riff_Randell

    Yeah, he demands lots of 'hell naw!' be added to scripts.

  • May 6, 2011, 10:25 p.m. CST

    One more thing

    by Riff_Randell

    Is this going to be a new trend? Christoph Waltz HAS to appear in movies with other horrible actors I loathe? Seth Rogen, Robert Pattinson, Will Smith? Dammit Chris I love you but, damn, I actually wanna see your movies and not suffer through them just to get a peek at you!?

  • May 6, 2011, 10:38 p.m. CST

    He was great in The Pursuit of Happyness

    by jimmy_009

    QT wouldn't cast him if he did have some acting chops.

  • May 6, 2011, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Will Smith is not a terrific actor

    by DonRivella

    He certainly is a competent actor and has a pretty good screen presence in most movies. Contrary to popular opinion, I thought he was terribly miscast for 'Ali' which could have been a much better movie with a different actor. But if Will Smith is in a Tarantino movie, I am certainly going to watch.

  • May 6, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    planetran_fan

    by jimmy_009

    I was going to make a comment on how I thought half of the people that ripped into Will Smith usually did so while exposing some latent racism... but I figured, nah, then I'd have to actually go and find a quote or something to back that up. Then lo and behold one post above mine I find your post, with you just busting at the seams to tell us how you -really- feel about black actors.

  • May 6, 2011, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Ali, Pursuit of Happyness, Six Degrees

    by jimmy_009

    The guy is a good actor. Most of you are racist shits whose whole shtick is "aw hell no" or whatever. I hope he gets cast in the next three QT movies just as a fuck you to all you closeted racist pricks.

  • May 6, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST

    The Smith hate is bizarre to say the least

    by Billy_D_Williams

    the guy has proven he's talented with Six Degrees, ali, Pursuit of Happyness...who's dick does he have to suck on these boards to get a little bit of benefit of the doubt?, especially considering i trust QT's taste over all of you tasteless fucks any day of the week

  • May 6, 2011, 11:07 p.m. CST

    This has probably been asked and answered ...

    by dogrobber

    ... already, but why remake or reimagine or in any way involve the 'Django' name/character in this case? I'm not for or against it (I've only seen the two Franco Nero 'Django' movies if it matters) but, especially with Mr. Tarantino and possibly Will Smith involved, what extra does using the name bring to the table? Just curious, thanks.

  • May 6, 2011, 11:22 p.m. CST

    @industrykiller

    by Majority

    Suck a chubby dick fag...intolerance is the name of the game

  • May 6, 2011, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Smith has charisma, but great actor he is not.

    by Sulla

    If he does end up taking on this role, he better step up his fucking game. I've never been a fan of his, and have never understood why so many people think he's great.

  • May 6, 2011, 11:34 p.m. CST

    NOOOO! Don't even need to read the TB. Idris Elba please!

    by Andrew Coleman

    When I read the awesome plot to this movie Elba just shot into my mind. Then I became confident he'd at least try out for the role... Not Will Smith. Please not him. I'll have flashbacks of Wild Wild West... The song is coming back... "We're going straight to"... NOOOO! Giant Robot Spider driven by the director of Thor... NOOO!

  • May 6, 2011, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Aww hell naw?

    by redmule

    Nobody said that yet?

  • May 6, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Industrykiller; Did you watch the pursuit of happiness?

    by ganymede3010

    The man can act, his resume speaks for itself. This will be fucking EPIC! However, this is QT we're talking about, a man with the penchant for overwritting his brilliantly crafted scripts. If this movie gets ruined by falling into this territory it will be a huge let down.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Will Smith turned down the Matrix.

    by Mojo-Wan

    Honestly, that's a much bigger loss for The Matrix than for Smith. Dude is not exactly struggling out there. I personally lose interest in the movie halfway through, and I blame the weak lead actor.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Big Willie? Shiiiiiiiiiii .... give it to Jamie Foxx

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

  • May 7, 2011, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Get Gary Anthony Williams a.k.a. Uncle Ruckus

    by Julius Dithers

    "I'm not black, I got the reverse vitiligo!"

  • But I don't think Denzel and QT are gonna work together after Denzel ripped QT for his love of the N-word. Whoever he picks, QT will make them a better actor and an even bigger star after he's done!

  • May 7, 2011, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Sean Connery passed on Morpheus in The Matrix

    by Zardoz

    He also passed on Gandalf in LOTR. Movies are filled with "what if's"...

  • May 7, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Wil Smith?

    by MrMajestic

    I do believe Idris Elba and Chiwetal Ejiofor are FAR superior actors but for my money's worth there's no better working black actor out there than Lennie Fucking James. He is sublime. For African-American actors I feel Harry Lennix doesn't get enough appreciation. His monologue when he's about to be executed in Julie Taymor's Titus gave me chills.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:49 a.m. CST

    I don't care what no one says, this is a MACKIE film

    by filmstu2005

    Anthony mackie is an awesome actor, and he just fits the bill for the character, his features, his build, his height, his onscreen charisma and confidence. I'm not saying he looks like a slave, lol, but I think this is the role the guy has been waiting for. I read that he was even considered for a the main role in the Jason Bourne Legacy (before it went to Jeremy Renner. How typical ) QT should take his eyes off the dead horse (will smith) and focus on a REAL actor. Anthony mackie wouldnt let him down.

  • May 7, 2011, 1:18 a.m. CST

    billy_d_williams, could you see Peter Stormare as Vincent Vega?

    by blakindigo

    Had a very fucked up dream once, where "Pulp Fiction" was on TV and Stormare was playing Vega. I don't know WHAT THE FUCK I ate before bed.

  • May 7, 2011, 1:23 a.m. CST

    You gotta give QT credit

    by Nerd Rage

    Most directors wouldn't touch a slave story with a 10 foot pole. But I saw on a Charlie Rose interview with Tarantino that he wanted to do a movie about abolitionist John Brown. That was a few years ago, maybe this slave western was the next best thing he could get greenlit. But anyway I'd like to see Anthony Mackie in the slave role and Idris Elba as the house negro. Oh and a big fuck you to all the random racist who post on this talkback.

  • And that says much more about the market driven thinking than it does about Will Smith accepting the role. Will Smith is a charismatic, competent actor. Two very strong performances in "Ali" and "Pursuit of Happiness". I still think Eamonn Walker is a GREAT choice, but I haven't read the script. Although, maybe this film should be given to a Yank — so, Anthony Mackie would be strong.

  • May 7, 2011, 1:37 a.m. CST

    I don't mind Will Smith

    by Sanyi

    as long as Quentin is the boss. Maybe he will give us a performance of a lifetime. I can imagine it.

  • May 7, 2011, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Chiwetel Ejiofor for Black Panther!

    by The Krypton Kid

    This is what I want to see.

  • May 7, 2011, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Hollywood pretty much ignores slavery completely

    by Nerd Rage

    It all comes down to Roots, Beloved, and Amistad...That's it...I guess we need a hundred Tyler Perry movies instead.

  • May 7, 2011, 2:27 a.m. CST

    nerd rage, please have mercy…

    by blakindigo

    Just make the pain stop.

  • May 7, 2011, 3:06 a.m. CST

    AICN "Scoops"

    by Johnny 5

    ive commented like maybe 2 times in the last 2 years, but I have to say you guys dont get the scoop on jack diddly shit and I have taken notice for some time now. IMDB has nothing either (QTs new flick) but for Christs sake I saw it on Yahoo- granted its my home page but correct me if im wrong and they ripped it from you maybe?? I do think that you pander to whomever has you on set, just like the episode of Entourage with Rain Willson and the porn stars and dildos "make or break opening weekend" bull shit. Also, Green Hornet was terrible despite the director whats his name who has made some great films. I appreciate everyones love for movies and there are a lot of assholes who comment on here but in my opinion, downhill. Way downhill. -Benny

  • May 7, 2011, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Mandingo Unchained

    by Baryonyx

  • May 7, 2011, 3:20 a.m. CST

    while im at it

    by Johnny 5

    I did really like the Cowboys and Aliens set visit article, im sorry I cant remember who wrote it. Im super psyched about 8mm ( or whatever its called i know thats wrong but some booze makes me horrible like that). Super 8! hope Thor is good, it would be cool if transformers was worth a goddamn, i thought the first one was alot of fun but like most i came very close to walking out on the second one. On a positive note I met a new neighbors young boys today age 7 and 9 i think--- They love Indiana Jones and could reference favorite parts from the 3 that matter. I told their pops to give them a couple more years and show them Die Hard. Peace Yo- Benny

  • May 7, 2011, 3:25 a.m. CST

    yo better looking

    by Johnny 5

    could you hook that up? I would really appreciate it and will reserve my fresh prince judgement until i could read it. Thanks and let me know

  • May 7, 2011, 3:29 a.m. CST

    Knowing Wil Smith,

    by Tristan

    he'll probably want to put his annoying kids in it too. Maybe they get slaughtered. That would be funny.

  • May 7, 2011, 4:03 a.m. CST

    Django of Bel Air...Rises

    by marineboy

    QT usually goes for talented has-beens and reinvents them...so yeah suppose WS just about hits that category :s

  • May 7, 2011, 4:14 a.m. CST

    So I'm watching Tremors right now on instant netflix....

    by Bobo_Vision

    ....and I love this movie but....how the fuck is a giant earthworm (graboid) supposed to dig through the earth at 30 mph when its only tools for digging are tiny feelers on the side of its body? What the fuck?

  • May 7, 2011, 4:31 a.m. CST

    nick fury agent of shield cameo!!!

    by vulturess

    no will and/or jaden?

  • May 7, 2011, 4:32 a.m. CST

    its not that will smith is black....

    by emeraldboy

    is just that he exudes a form of aggressive positivity and self belief. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_2kaC_wIso

  • May 7, 2011, 4:32 a.m. CST

    I liked "I, Robot"

    by ChickenStu

    Captured Asimov's ideas nicely (I was a big fan of the book... and yeah I know the film wasn't directly based on it), special effects were decent, good action scenes, a real story, and a bit more of a layered performance than one would expect from Smith in a movie of this genre. The bit where you find out Smith's hatred of robots stems from something as simple as "survivor guilt" is very powerful.

  • May 7, 2011, 5:02 a.m. CST

    Welcome to Earf.

    by F-18

  • May 7, 2011, 5:45 a.m. CST

    Because Dave Chapelle is retired

    by Bobo_Vision

  • May 7, 2011, 6:01 a.m. CST

    In The Old West...Philadelphia Born and Raised.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

  • May 7, 2011, 6:02 a.m. CST

    Too bad Cleavon Little is no longer with us.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

  • May 7, 2011, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Smart move QT

    by Algarin

    I think this is a VERY strong play by QT. Will Smith is the biggest star on the planet, he brings in large numbers and apparently the public adore him. If QT can snag Fresh Prince, he'd be able to get as much money as he needs for this picture. I'm open to it and interested. Lets see how this develops.

  • May 7, 2011, 6:47 a.m. CST

    As castrated Vader would say ...

    by Behemoth

    "NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOoooo!"

  • May 7, 2011, 6:54 a.m. CST

    I like Will Smith, He is 42. This role could create a new star

    by TheJudger

    I imagined a younger 20 or 30 something played by a talented unknown. I guess it's a TB standard to say how one really feels. I understand the need for headliners. This film sounds like it needs them based on the subject matter alone. Remember this is a film about a black man seeking revenge on a white man. The white men are slave owners, most likely rapist and murders as well, but you know what. It wasn't an uncommon for whites to be that way towards blacks in the south less than 100 years ago. So yeah, it's not like we are saying these whites are exceptions. They are being portrayed as the standard of those times, granted maybe a little more callus and sadistic, but yeah both black and white america will feel uneasy about this subject matter if it's done right. I am willing to bet his kid/child/kids/children are killed, maybe even an unborn child. His wife is raped, and he is beaten/whipped/dragged/shot or hanged and left for dead or somehow escapes and vows revenge. It wont be hard to build the transgressions against him, or his reasons and motives for vengeance. Sam Jackson's character might be one of those "self hating/do as the master says" types who helped his Master do these crimes to Django and his family.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Will Smith in Django Unchained...

    by Hipshot

    Hmmm. Michael Jai White won't work--he's too threatening, and the role needs someone who SLOWLY becomes a badass. Smith is a fine actor who has opted to be a "movie star" (play off his personae) as opposed to stretching his acting chops. The screen actor's guild chose to nominate him for "Ali" and I suspect their opinions can be considered as valid as anyone here. As for his box office draw--are you kidding? Except for "Seven Pounds" which white audiences avoided and black audiences voted "Best Dramatic Film" (NAACP Image Award) his last five films have averaged over 200 million each. His SON'S movie earned a third of a billion dollars. Man's a juggernaut. Can he do "Django"? Not sure. Let's say I have spies, and a bit of insight into the script. It's possible. The role might fit him. His fans would dig it. The depiction of slavery is a little exploitative, and I doubt black women will be happy. It does fit the classic "Spaghetti Western" mold in a lot of ways. I suspect it could be a huge hit...and if Smith can arc his performance (and I wouldn't bet against him)...then QT will have his biggest hit ever.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:05 a.m. CST

    As for Hollywood ignoring slavery..

    by Hipshot

    It ain't Hollywood. It's America. With like 40% of America in denial about slavery being the overriding issue about the Civil War, there is no way someone is going to casually make a movie dealing with that, without risking financial disaster. "Amistad" underperformed. "Beloved" tanked. When Steven Spielberg and Oprah Winfrey can't make successful films on the subject, you'd better grasp just how poisonous it is, box-office wise. I have to give QT props for even giving it a shot...and he'd be stupid not to grab the biggest star he can get.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Robert Downey JR in blackface

    by edwardpenishands

    it could work.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Hell Ted Danson in blackface is a better idea

    by edwardpenishands

  • May 7, 2011, 7:10 a.m. CST

    LEVAR BURTON

    by BSB

    Nuff said.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST

    TYRESE TAYE EPPS

    by BSB

  • May 7, 2011, 7:14 a.m. CST

    IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAS SEEN BLOOD DIAMOND

    by BSB

    You will find this premise uncomfortably similar.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Racial comments about Smith..

    by Hipshot

    Boil down to "he's uppity." He believes in himself. He succeeds,and doesn't apologize for it. He supports his family JUST LIKE ANYONE ON THIS TALKBACK would do with their own. Jaden made "Karate Kid" and the world loved it to the tune of 1/3 billion dollars. Jackie Chan's second most successful film, after a string of disappointments. Second most successful martial arts film of all time. You want to credit its success on "love for the original"? Look what happens to most sequels. Looking at these talkback comments, I'm starting to think Smith is PERFECT for the Django role. Yeah, and put in Jada as his wife. And yeah, there might even be a role for his kids in there (lots of slave kids running around in the old south, after all). I'd love to see the bunch of you cringe.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:19 a.m. CST

    The QT cuisinart:

    by Executor

    Take the Kill Bill revenge plot (and reuniting with a family member), make it a black guy instead of a buttaface girl, throw in Hans Landa from Basterds, and....voila: Django Unchained. Long bits of dialogue and meandering scenes peppered with bouts of violence and Kill Bill-ish "spaghetti western" flashbacks. QT has talent, but PLEASE, someone tell him that every syllable isn't gold and EDIT THIS FUCKING THING!!!

  • May 7, 2011, 7:21 a.m. CST

    hipshot...you have "a bit of insight" into the script?

    by Executor

    So does everyone else on the internet who googles Django Unchained pdf.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:24 a.m. CST

    There was a classic movie which was remade and QT

    by KilliK

    when was asked his opinion about the remake,he said that it failed because it didnt have the subtext of slavery in america that the original had. Someone had mentioned that comment from QT in an older talkback and it made me an impression because that movie's story had nothing to do with black slavery not even as a metaphorical meaning. But i cant remember what was the movie QT was talking about,it is a well known classic movie but i cant remember which one. If someone has the slightest idea what i am talking about please remind me which movie was...

  • I am noticing a trend in films. With these shock openings that show the main characters family being attacked or killed in the beginning. Not even really giving the audience enough time to know who this main characters family really is. Sure they might open up on a family dinner or family outing of some sort, but the information about the characters is as small and simple as you can get. Everyone's happy. And then BAM! Sadism time! I find it extremely weak and sadistic for sadist sake. Jonah Hex opened up this way. Law Abiding Citizen opened up this way. A lot of films have open up like this. I hate lots of things about this method of drawing raw emotions from the audience. It seems like an easy out. We never get to truly know who these characters were before they were raped and killed. All we know is that they were nice and trying to enjoy life. These raw openers makes it much easier for us to instantly re-adapt to the main character and his motives, but our real feelings for his this characters loss are less than they would be if the creator actually took the time to make those lost characters real characters before taken them away from us and the main character. A better creative would wait 40 minutes or so before doing this- build up the motives behind the attack. Flesh out the characters to be slain and abused- make them easy to like, easy to relate too, or appreciate. This way when the crimes against them happen. It's causes real pain, and real emotion to the audience. The other way is more like watching a news report of deaths caused by a disaster in a 3rd world country. You feel bad about it, but it's not 1:1. there's a disconnect. You are not completely invested in the tragedy. Enough of these hard openers for shock value. I want characters first and foremost.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:33 a.m. CST

    What's Rerun doin' these days?

    by djangoilbastardo

    Fresh Prince would probably be my 4th pick after Rerun, Freddy "Boom Boom" Washington, and Theo.

  • John Travolta hasn't put out a decent film in the last 20 years since Pulp Fiction. Name one decent JT film from the last 20 years. You can't. I know someone wants to say Face Off, but don't....Face Off sucks. QT's casting of him in Pulp Fiction was genius, however. Will Smith in a QT film might be genius, too, because he has a "goody-goody" persona (mr.-I-don't-curse-in-my-raps) and watching him curse and get violent might be very entertaining. QT is no dummy....he will likely have the discussion with him beforehand that if he wants to be in a QT film, he has to say "fuck" and "n*****" and get a bit ultraviolent. If Smith isn't okay with that, he likely won't do the film. <p> But for those saying they don't want Smith, the role is a slave so it has to be someone black, so if not Smith, who? As far as some of those already mentioned, here's my breakdown of why they're wrong: <p> Chiwitel Ejiofor: Why not? Because he's boring. He puts me to sleep. I tried to force myself to watch Redbelt twice and couldn't do it. He's black Nyquill. "Honey, I can't sleep...pass me the Chiwitel Ejiofor." And if you put "Starring Chiwitel Ejiofor" on a marquee, it's not going to get assess into those seats...apart from the 5 assholes who like Redbelt. <p> Don Cheadle: Look, Don is a good actor, but somewhat overrated. I think ever since Don did Oceans 11, he's become friends with some powerful Hollywood players and has been getting some roles that he might not have been suited for. Terrance Howard was better as the sidekick in Iron Man. And Don is good in a supporting role or as part of an ensemble...but he doesn't have the gravitas to be a leading man and carry a film. My opinion. <p> Michael Jai White: I think hipshot summed up why he's not a good choice. You just think of him and you can already picture him in your head blowing away slave owners. You don't need to pay the 12 bucks...that movie already exists in your brain. You want the movie you haven't seen. <p> Denzel: Too old. <p> Anyone else?

  • May 7, 2011, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Chiwetel Ejiofor Should've been offered this

    by Nabster

    The Dalai Lama said he thought Chiwetel is the best actor of this generation. And I agree.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:45 a.m. CST

    DJIMON HOUNSOU AS DJANGO

    by BSB

    Leo DiCaprio as the white bounty hunter. Jennifer Connelly as the intrepid reporter looking to blow the lid off the slavery business.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Michael Jai White FTW

    by CuervoJones

    Fuck Will Smith.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:51 a.m. CST

    Will Smith IS Django!!!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Sounds cool and sounds like it could be a winning combo: Smith / Tarantino = win. Would also be a chance for Will Smith to apologise for that last so-called western he did Wicky Wil Wess!!!

  • May 7, 2011, 8 a.m. CST

    WTF?!

    by Sprinky

    First Keanu might be playing Akira and now Will Smith in Django?! Does this nightmare never end?

  • May 7, 2011, 8:02 a.m. CST

    D.J. DAHLEE LAMA LOVES SALT

    by BSB

    Chwetel walked A LOT in that movie. Walking here, walking there. Walking walking walking.

  • May 7, 2011, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Damon Wayans for Django

    by richievanderlow

  • May 7, 2011, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Executor...

    by Hipshot

    No idea what is or isn't available on the 'net regarding the script. First place Google took me to has already been shut down. If you've got something, good for you!

  • May 7, 2011, 8:32 a.m. CST

    I think this sums up my thoughts on the subject...

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o19CaOSuD8&NR=1

  • ...to express any emotion. The reference to H'Wood's propensity to honor anyone with a melanin concentration above certain thresholds is not a statement of racism, it is a statement of fact. Cases in point: Gabourey Sidibe, Halle Berry, Whoopi, Cuba Gooding, Jr. None really deserve the accolades they received. Would it surprise you to know that I would welcome the addition of someone who has real talent to the cast. Someone I think is terrific, not because of the amount of melanin in his dermal layers, but because of his talent: Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Mr. Eko from LOST)

  • It's shark jumping time, Quentin! This is the single most stupid casting idea I've read in a very, very long time. This makes the Cooper Crow sound like Bogart in the African Queen.

  • May 7, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST

    AWW HAIL NAW MASSA!

    by BSB

    Sorry.

  • May 7, 2011, 8:50 a.m. CST

    planetron_fan

    by Hipshot

    To mislabel your opinion concerning black Oscar winners as "fact" is a clear statement about you. If the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences honors someone, and you disagree with their assessment, the only "fact" is that your opinions disagree. When you mistake your subjective view of the world for some absolute map, all kinds of other problems become possible. When you label virtually all the black Oscar winners substandard, it becomes reasonable to suspect you have a hidden agenda. Of course...that's just my opinion.

  • May 7, 2011, 8:52 a.m. CST

    And no, I don't think idiots should be banned...

    by Hipshot

    For making openly racist comments here. It is critical for people of good conscience to see just how much of that poison is still out there. People like Barack Obama and Will Smith, unapologetic for their excellence, drive certain people crazy. To oppose someone for their policies is one thing. To dislike a specific performer is a right anyone has. But I enjoy the fact that, with the anonymity of the internet, these slugs openly wave their arms and declare that they're still fighting the Civil War. Distance yourselves from them and join the human race.

  • May 7, 2011, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy > Will Smiff

    by elsewhere

    I'd much rather see him or Denzel in the role. Will Smiff isn't the only black actor in Hollywood ffs.

  • May 7, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Idris Elba is pretty badass

    by jimmy_009

    I'm cool with Will Smith, but the talk of Idris Elba just blew up my skirt.

  • May 7, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    planetran_fan

    by jimmy_009

    Mr. Eko? You want to cast Mr. Eko, an actor who has never once used an American accent? You're brilliant. And I'm not a "trained poodle", I just know a racist when I see it. You don't see people going all ape-shit that Arnold never did any "serious" roles, and Will Smith has done several that have gotten good reviews for him. The asses that talk about him like he speaks with ebonics... wtf. Yeah, racist shits. He's one of the few genuine class acts in the business, but you'd think he just did a drive by the way half of you shitheads talk about him. But whatever, I'm sure you know a lot more about acting than Quentin Tarantino, the Academy, Will Smith's loaded bank account...

  • I've always found Chris Tucker to be pretty annoying and awful...but goddamn...he was great in "Jackie Brown." So great, I always thought it was a shame he gave up acting to make those unwatchable Brett Ratner movies. If QT can get a performance that great out of Chris Tucker, I have no doubt he can pull something truly incredible from the likes of a superstar like Will Smith.

  • May 7, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST

    killik -- the remake QT was talking about

    by blackwood

    KING KONG. I don't know if you are being, like, facetious or whatever, but it was Peter Jackson's KING KONG.

  • May 7, 2011, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Has that racist piece of shit "majority" been banned yet?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • quality movies again.

  • May 7, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST

    I think this can work. I really do.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Smith has the, er, CHOPs, but he needs to have his creative control scaled back and he needs to be challenged by a good director, like Mann did on Ali. Still, my first choice would obviously be muthafuckin' Stringer Bell or Omar Little, but if Smith can get the movie made and distributed, fucking do it.

  • QT can do the same with Smith, who's already proved to be a damn good actor anyway.

  • May 7, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    even if you wish to cling to the belief that Smith is a bad actor...

    by jules windex

    Look at some of the other mediocre actors who QT has cast in his career and coaxed good work out of: Pam Grier, Bridget Fonda, Vivica Fox, Lucy Liu, Diane Kruger, Michael Madsen, Zoe Bell.

  • May 7, 2011, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Hey, where'd that coward "majority" go?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Hopefully the Banhammer snuck up on him like Seal Team Six.

  • May 7, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST

    I wouldn't say that Michael Madsen is a mediocre actor.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    He does his thing, which is pretty much a mafioso John Wayne, and he does it well. Other than that, jules windex, I'm with you on this point.

  • May 7, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    hipshot, QT isn

    by Billy_D_Williams

  • I like Will Smith and I love the Matrix but it would not have been anywhere near as good with him in it.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    THE CHOPPAH UNCHAINED

    by BSB

    Good to see you back homes.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Thanks, bsb. What a week I've had.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    I can't disclose what exactly I've been up to, but I'll say this: Abbottabad is beautiful this time of year, and it's got some of the smoothest, strongest free-range ganja I've had the pleasure of smoking. By the way, I've seen some of my CHOPlings (strikes_back and that_said) took up my standard. I appreciate their hard work.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:23 p.m. CST

    what about mike tyson

    by Flustered

    he was stellar in hangover and he has the tribal tat. makes him look like an off the boat slave.

  • Chopped.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST

    And they could play will smith rap music like in wild wild west!

    by UltraTron

    Yessiree- Nothing gels more than Will Smith in a western.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    That's probably what he was thinking, too.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    When CHOPPAH comes, no one sees their life flash before their eyes. They only gaze into the blank menace of the void that spewed forth their pitiful existence. Dimensions and time strands converge and twist. There is no thought. Only CHOP.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Smith, Will have to step aside

    by lostokie

    The only way this works is if Will Smith doesn't get involved like in every one of his other films. Smith has it in his contract that not only does he star but he produces. His Manager is also his producer and the two of them are involved in almost every decision from pre-production and on. If anyone can make Smith look good, it is Quentin. I can't see him changing a line for Smith, so if that becomes the case then maybe it works. I'm skeptical of Will Smith's acting ability, so we'll see how he does under a strict production with out his finger in the soup. His acting is always one or two notes to me. That could be because of his always being involved. He knows his strengths, so he sticks to them. Just like his music, he doesn't deviate from his wheel house. Go listen to his music. All the beats are the same (I'm a DJ). He never goes below 100 bpm's and never above 112 bpm's. Like his acting.

  • May 7, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    CHOPPAH AKBAR

    by BSB

  • May 7, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    It's been said twice

    by MoffatBabies

    sort of. But "aww hell naww" just for the hell of it. But he'll probably be good in it.

  • May 7, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    I can understand people not liking QT movies

    by D o o d

    but you have to at least give him this. He doesn't bow down all that much to studio pressure and doesn't lower himself to filling his movies with huge special effects. He makes movies about characters and the conversations and script is always engaging. I don't like all his movies, but I have found interest in all of them (if that makes any sense) If anyone can pull a performance out of Will Smith, it'll be Tarantino.

  • May 7, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    LOL @ this TB.

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    "Will Smith turned down the Matrix. Honestly, that's a much bigger loss for The Matrix than for Smith." Yeah, had Smith been in the Matrix maybe it would have made a lot of money. LOL. Then we got people like Billy D Williams and Harry Black Potter chiming in on this disastrous-sounding casting rumor. Might as well have a TB name like, "I AM BLACK" or "BLACKTALKBACKER". Of course you're not going to say anything bad about Smith. He's one of your homies or something. Smith has been in nothing but vapid, one-dimensional, box office-baiting crap where he wants to be the Great Black Hero. Hell, look what he did in Wild Wild West and I Am Legend, the latter the biggest tragedy as it could have been good if the main character were closer to what was in the book instead of that fool Smiff. He was good in MiB because he was a brash, big mouthed snot that continually got schooled by the Tommy Lee Jones' smart, authority character. The fact of the matter is that he would be terrible in this, just as he is terrible in about every movie he makes. Just as about every movie he makes is garbage because of him.

  • I hopes he's not gonna make another movie where the historical victims get revenge on their victimizers. "Take that you evil slavemaster"---"take that ghengis khan" I guess is next movie will have Jesus Christ punching out Caesar--"Take that in that name of God Hallelujah!"

  • May 7, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    The Fresh Prince and QT? Strange mix.

    by AsimovLives

  • May 7, 2011, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Guess I hit a nerve with BLAKindigo

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    So what exactly am I a troll of, genius? And why would anyone who doesn't like criticism be me? Please learn to make sense.

  • May 7, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Hey asimovlives — it might be a good mix.

    by blakindigo

    Will Smith dosen't have the most range as an actor, but he's immensely likable. With a good director on hand, like Michael Mann — who helped Tom Cruise give a sterling performance in "Collateral", he'll deliver the goods. QT is savvy enough and talented enough to pull this off. The script is 168 pages (apparently full of cinematic references and even a nod to Dickens(!)). I think it's fair to say that if talented directors such as PT Anderson and Michael Mann can pull the goods from Cruise, I think QT can do the same for Will Smith.

  • May 7, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Chiwetel Ejiofor

    by Johnno711

    Should have been War Machine. Make this mofo a star Quentin!

  • May 7, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by Hipshot

    That's a pretty fine distinction. I doubt most audiences will make it. By that measure, of course, "Amistad" was a legal drama, and "Beloved" was a ghost story. Dealing with slavery, a "third rail" in American cinema.

  • May 7, 2011, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Sean Patrick Thomas

    by Nice Marmot

    Give him a shot.

  • May 7, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Some of the comments here are hilarious

    by Andrew Coleman

    "He was good in MiB because he was a brash, big mouthed snot that continually got schooled by the Tommy Lee Jones' smart, authority character." Which translated means: Old white guy puts uppity black guy in his place. I personally don't want Smith in this role. He'll stand out too much because he's a star. I get being jealous... The main problem for I Am Legend was the script. They had a chance to do something epic and blinked. If anything Smith saved that movie and is the only reason it made the money it did. But some of you guys need to holster this anger towards him a bit. It looks pathetic and smells of racism which in the end is the most pathetic thing of all. I Shia can keep getting fucking movie roles... Will Smith can too.

  • May 7, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST

    sierra you are a total joke

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Criticizing Smith is fine if you do it on the merits of his performance. But jackasses like you just have to invoke racism. Using 'smiff' which is blatant evocation of racial pronunciation stereotypes shows the just how lacking in class you are and it ain't just Blacks on this board calling you that becaus im not Black either.

  • May 7, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    this might be the first QT movie I refuse to see.

    by crazybubba

    sounds like crap.

  • May 7, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST

    myphdisdoom

    by blakindigo

    Hilarious. I agree completely.

  • May 7, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Actually I'm lying

    by crazybubba

    if the actions is good I'll be there no matter who star is. Just find aspects of it kind of annoying. I wonder how people who post here are in the movie business and only post because its part of their job.

  • May 7, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST

    So who is Jaden going to play?

    by Mel

  • May 7, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Daniel Dark Lewis?

    by Mel

    zing

  • May 7, 2011, 4:11 p.m. CST

    On "majority" being banned.

    by Hipshot

    No. He isn't the worst person on this board, just the most honest. It is critical to actually see behind the mask some of these others wear. They're saying "hell, yeah!" when they read that poison, and hiding their racial animus...just barely...behind "reasonable" explanations for their hatred of Will and his family. Never forget what's actually out there, people. There is never a reason for discourtesy. Attacks are always defenses. Anger is always a mask over fear.

  • May 7, 2011, 4:15 p.m. CST

    hipshot

    by Billy_D_Williams

    you're not being realistic about the differences...a QT movie is an event and he has enough built in fan base at this point to get past the hundred million dollar mark...they know going in it will be some exploitation action genre flick and that any slavery elements will have QT's "cool, hip" veneer finish over it... amistad and beloved on the other hand were studio films...yes, they had oprah and spielberg behind them, but those movies were sold as historical dramas in the marketing, as in SERIOUS MOVIES about slavery and racism...immediately people saw the writing on the wall and avoided it... QT's built in audience really doesn't care...they sat through incessant uses of the "n" word in most of his movies, i seriously doubt his fans will be staying away in droves because it has slavery as a backdrop...this is the key element...the slavery aspect is the backdrop and not the main thrust of the film, the trailers and TV spots will make sure people know this...it will be cut together like Kill Bill, fast, intense, with QT musical selections...if Will Smith is involved, they'll need to spray audience repellent to keep them motherfuckers away from this thing.

  • May 7, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Waaahhh waaahhh waahh wacism waah!

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    Myphisdoom or whatever idiotic, nonsensical name you have, perhaps it isn't racism. Perhaps you and your ilk are too quick to jump to that conclusion. Perhaps I mean that young punk gets shown the proper way by the old wise guy. I know it may be hard for your little mind to comprehend that maybe you're smelling something that isn't there, but do try. Now that's a good boy! Now run on and play in traffic. And hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes, first of all, congrats on having the stupidest name in TB history, and that's quite a feat. Second of all, you must be quite new here as Smith is commonly referred to as "Smiff" by TBers on any article that mentions his name. I don't care if you're black or not; you are a complete moron however and that's how you come across in your idiotic post.

  • May 7, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Just cast the entire Barksdale crew

    by tbransonlives

    And Rawls as the evil plantation owner.

  • May 7, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Deathproof was part of GRINDHOUSE...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    and it wasn't sold as QT's Grindhouse...the weird marketing (and the fact that the movie was terrible) was enough to keep people away from that...they sold it as a bad B-movie right off the bat, but made it seem like bad B-movies are worth the insanely high ticket prices of today, so OF COURSE people told that movie to go fuck itself... QT DOES have a built in audience when the marketing isnt weird and he's not sharing the bill with some other filmmaker no one cares about, Death Proof was an anomaly and not an apt example

  • May 7, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    braindrain

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i already said the weird marketing is what killed that film...it was TOO inside-joke, wink wink, you-need-to-enjoy-bad-B-movies-to-enjoy this flick kind of marketing, and of course most audiences spent their hard earned money on other movies (or hookers and blow)

  • May 7, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST

    sierra you are either a racist or too stupid to even understand the things you say

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    So. Just because you do not understand the history behind the insult you use does not excuse your ignorance. Just think once in your retarded life. If you were going to insult Smith just based on a play of his name wouldn't 'will shit' or 'will smits' or some other obvious play on the name be better? But dumbass racists like you went for pronunciation stereotype instead. And bubbeh i am far from being new around here. I simply have ignored your stupid posts in the past

  • May 7, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST

    braindrain

    by Billy_D_Williams

    my point still stands, QT DOES have a built in audience and when the marketing is on point, and the movie is good, it works like gangbusters...Grindhouse does nothing to advance hipshot's argument that Django will like some Beloved/amistad failure...apples and oranges

  • May 7, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST

    kobe, ignore the troll and he'll scuttle away

    by Billy_D_Williams

  • May 7, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    as for majority being banned

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Never heard of him before. So obviously he is an attention Whore who has other screen names on here but just wanted someone to pay attention to his worthless and pathetic self. Hope you are happy jackass. Does it make you feel all warm and giddy that someone finally paid attention to you? Pathetic loser

  • May 7, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST

    i plan to Billy D

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

  • May 7, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Tarantino's fan base

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Deathproof was just a failure on all levels. I enjoyed both Grindhouse films but the concept/movies turned off a lot of people, obviously. Kill Bill 1 and 2 did well in the box office, much better then if they were directed by some hack director. Kill Bill 1 did have great marketing, along with that great song he used. Ultimately it's usually movie stars that bring the most people to the theaters, and by teaming with Brad Pitt Tarantino had his biggest hit. No surprise he wants to bring Will Smith on board for this.

  • May 7, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Smith is the only AAA blacktor in Hollywood.

    by tradeskilz

    There are simply no other choices for a big name black leading man. Sure, Denzel, Morgan and Jackson are all stars that we love but they are either not right for the part or not big enough to sell it to everyone. Smith is. I think QT got enough clout to keep Smith in line and coax a great preformance out of him. Allthough after Pitt's awful preformance in Inglorious one gotta wonder.... Best preformance in Inglorious? The German officer who gets executed by the Bear Jew. Bear Jew points at medal with Baseball bat -What's that medal for? Awesome Nazi Officer - Bravery Damn he looked awesome.

  • May 7, 2011, 5:45 p.m. CST

    You're right, every Will Smith thread turns into a racism debate

    by ganymede3010

    That's when you know you're on AICN.

  • May 7, 2011, 6:47 p.m. CST

    I've read the script...

    by Messiahman

    And I'll say straight up that Michael K. Williams would be the best choice for Django. He's a man of few words, a hardened former slave that Christophe Waltz's character molds into a bounty hunter. The character is humorless due to his background, and by the end of it, he's a completely unrelenting badass. Williams already proved how intimidating he could be as Omar on THE WIRE. He'd be perfect for this.

  • May 7, 2011, 6:53 p.m. CST

    I find Smith to be blandness personified

    by Dark Knight Lite

    Whoever sad Michael Jai White was onto something. Rather than try to breathe life into a fading star, why can't QT give MJW his shot?

  • May 7, 2011, 6:54 p.m. CST

    exactly tradeskilz

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Except for the best performance part. That guy was great but c'mon. You know what I'm gonna say next, along with everyone else you're baiting.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Dave Chapelle was born to play this role

    by Nabster

    They should cast against type, some skinny wise talking blacktor, who would kill with QTs dialogue. Smith is a safe choice, but there are many better choices. The cast should have Dave Chapelle and the greatest unsung blacktor of his generation, Wesley Snipes; if this happened, it would be a great film no matter what.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Oh, and Sierra...

    by Messiahman

    Why don't you do us all a favor and shut your fucking mongoloid mouth, you race-baiting douchebag. You can try to dodge the issue and play language semantics all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that anyone with eyes can process what you're doing. And feigning ignorance while claiming that everyone's got you wrong doesn't change things...it only comes off as painfully stupid rationalizing. We get it, dude, you're not bright. Indeed, all you are is brain-addled, race-baiting talkback dick who relishes in posting the sort of anonymous insults that you'd be far too chickenshit to say aloud in public. Go ahead and post a response - all you'll be doing is proving me right.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Pitt was pretty terrible in Inglorious Basterds

    by elsewhere

    His performance is almost cringe inducing. I still love the hell out of the movie regardless, but I really wish QT would have casted someone else in the role.

  • May 7, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Yippy KI a MUTHERFUCKER...

    by KHjLL

    Best news of the week... Can't wait Smith - Jackson in the same movie... 2 MUTHERFUCKING COOL! I hope SMITH says it 2, "Yippie Ki A Mutherfucker"... Awesome Anybody know the release date yet.... p.s. And BOOGIE NIGHTE - HARD EIGHT - THERE WILL BE BLOOD are all written the same in character dialog...

  • May 7, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Could be some brilliant casting

    by Teddy Artery

    on Quentin's part. Anyone who is not a total troll and putz would realize that Smith's capable of some great acting. Looking forward to this collaboration, and I call it that because I believe Smith would want as much input as, say, Uma Thurman on Kill Bill.

  • May 7, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Wow, you guys get in quite a fit. LOL.

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    So many of you guys, especially hey_kobe_tell_me_how_my_ass_tastes and now this messiahman dickhole, just really love to cry and cry. Sorry I insulted your homeboy Smiff...oops, I mean Smith. Actually I'm not sorry as it exposes you crybaby bitches for who you really are. So go OD on midol and come back when you're not such whiny fucking bitches who can't take a little ribbing because you think a group of people are beyond some harmless mockery. Thank god there are people like you to keep medication companies and Kleenex in business.

  • May 7, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    SEVEN POUNDS...

    by KHjLL

    Is one of my favorite SMITH movies and it proves SMITHS acting chops just like everything he devours when it comes 2 his roles... And top 10 film of 2008... I'm glad he turned down MORPHEUS... I couldn't imagine anyone other than FISHBURNE....

  • May 7, 2011, 8:17 p.m. CST

    DJANGO?

    by KHjLL

    Wonder if DJANGO is mute most of the films like in some of the DJANGO films... Wish I could audition for a GERMAN BOUNTY HUNTER role... I'm GERMAn my father still has NIGHTMARES of his dad coming out of the GRAVE and beating him... When oh when is DJANGO UNCHAINED coming out...

  • Besides, if I'm not bright, what does that make you for replying? Yeah, can't wait to see you weasel and worm your way into that one.

  • May 7, 2011, 8:26 p.m. CST

    THE GERMAN KILLER...

    by KHjLL

  • May 7, 2011, 8:28 p.m. CST

    THE GERMAN KILLER...

    by KHjLL

    I could send 10 pictures looking like 10 different people... GERMAN - IRISH - POLISH - SWEDISH - NATIVE in the fam...

  • May 7, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Dave Chapelle

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Ha ha. That would be awesome. I'd much rather see him in this than Smith.

  • May 7, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    John Witherspoon!

    by professorjack

    just have him play the dad in "Friday" in this movie. I'm in. Or have Mike Epps play "DayDay"

  • That movie had no business being called The Karate Kid. Call it The Kung Fu Kid and I don't have a problem. Calling it The Karate Kid is a greedy, dishonest scheme to make more money and guarantee a hit film for your kid.

  • May 7, 2011, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Mario Van Peebles Bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by truedog67

    If Will Smith won't do this shit, come on... who else could you even think of tapping given the subject matter?

  • May 7, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Or LeVar Burton...

    by truedog67

  • May 7, 2011, 10:29 p.m. CST

    "Chris Tucker kind of amazing" ?!??!?!?!?!

    by Malebolgia

    what is the guy whose cock you're sucking been smoking?!?!? It's obvious you're on a "slurpee high". Jackie Brown was TOTAL GARBAGE, especially the every other word is "nigga"-beaumont, now go fuck your mother!

  • May 7, 2011, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Great Actor?

    by veritasses

    Will Smith is a nice guy, a hard worker and has a ton of charisma but he's definitely not someone I'd put in the same league as say, Sean Penn, Daniel Day Lewis, Ralph Fiennes, Geoffrey Rush, Michael Caine, Peter Sellers (and for the ladies) Glenn Close, Kate Winslet etc etc. I'm not sure I'd even put him in the "good" category... He's a "good fit" for some roles and may have done some good work in a scene here or there but that's about it.

  • May 7, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Peter Mensah

    by mondocane

    Would be my first choice.

  • May 7, 2011, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Heeeey, where the white women at?

    by D.Vader

    That's what I'm talkin' bout!

  • May 7, 2011, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Will this be an adaptation of Catcher Freeman?

    by D.Vader

    Damnit, I always wanted to make a slave revenge flick.

  • May 7, 2011, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Nope, Sierra...

    by Messiahman

    The only one whining here is you, you girly little fuck. And seriously, thanks for responding and proving me right after I just wiped the floor with you. Like I said, you're not too bright. Way to achieve, buddy! Your mom and dad must be so proud!

  • May 7, 2011, 11:20 p.m. CST

    just finished reading the script

    by Billy_D_Williams

    its epic, its funny, its gut wrenching, its violent, its sad, its brilliant...its could be a classic if QT doesnt fuck it up i can see why he wants Will Smith for Django (and why he'd be perfect)...the character is charismatic without saying too much (which is rare for a QT movie), meaning the gravitas needs to already exist in the actor playing the role because he does very little talking and alot of killing...whoever plays the part needs to already bring a certain charismatic image with him, because he doesn't say much, at least not as much as everyone else...what im getting at is, this is a movie star part he's written and its like no part he's written before, he actually doesn't overwrite the part like he's done in past movies, a welcome surprise. Django is badass with few words. The character's screen presence is tremendous and the actor needs to bring that immediately...the Will Smith casting is fucking perfect.

  • May 7, 2011, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Wait, so the slave is Django now?

    by D.Vader

    Franco Nero isn't playing an older Django that happens to be involved but isn't the main character?

  • May 7, 2011, 11:44 p.m. CST

    this has absolutely nothing to do with the original Django character

    by Billy_D_Williams

    the slave's name is Django...and his name is spelled like that because of a funny moment early in the script

  • May 7, 2011, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Interesting, Billy D

    by D.Vader

    All the accounts I had read earlier suggested Franco Nero would be playing an older Django, but the movie wouldn't be centered around him.

  • May 7, 2011, 11:59 p.m. CST

    d. vader

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i can picture alot of people squirming in the audience as he pulls no punches...lots of N-word usage, but its accurate for the time, lots of brutal violence, pulls no punches with how horrible slavery times were...but the script is funny as shit at times...there's even a scene reminiscent of Mr. Blonde alone with the cop in Res. Dogs torturing him...and the ending is sure to have people cheering...i really think Django could turn out to be the best character he's ever written, the guy is smart, witty, charismatic, shocking, violent and sad all at once...and he doesn't say very much, which considering QT, is incredible

  • May 8, 2011, 12:10 a.m. CST

    It just hit me: the black dude from True Blood.

    by tamethecunt

    No other will do.

  • May 8, 2011, 12:17 a.m. CST

    A silent character. QT has never attempted that once, has he?

    by D.Vader

    I mean, other than the Gimp and Hugo Stiglitz.

  • May 8, 2011, 12:27 a.m. CST

    the script seems to be getting very good reviews

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    aw hell nawww, is that in there?

  • May 8, 2011, 1:44 a.m. CST

    dont care for Kill Bill

    by Billy_D_Williams

    too self indulgent, and just a mess...boring too

  • May 8, 2011, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Django reminds me of Hugo Stiglitz...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    silent but deadly...but Django has charm and humor where Stiglitz did not...it really is a great character...Smith will be a fool if he turns this down, its just too juicy a role, and would make up for Wild Wild West

  • May 8, 2011, 1:56 a.m. CST

    if by overrated you mean awesome then yeah

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

  • May 8, 2011, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Django vs. Rango

    by Dennis_Moore

  • May 8, 2011, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Kill Bill 2 drags a bit

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    but they're 2 of my all time favorite films. I felt that the end was anti-climactic. The 5 finger death punch was fine, but could there have been a bit more swordplay first? And a bit less talk.

  • May 8, 2011, 5:51 a.m. CST

    First, I like Will Smith

    by Jaka

    I've repeatedly defended the guy here and I'll do it again. I think Will Smith is necessary and I think he's important. The fact that so many people (black and white) can't get over their own hang-ups and just enjoy the guy for being himself annoys me to no end. I also like QT and have really enjoyed a few of his films. However, after learning of the premise for this film one of the first responses I read was, "great, another excuse for QT to use the n-word on screen". I was like, "well, yeah... true." And because of that I just can't picture Will Smith taking the part. <p> Also, I'm not really diggin' this idea anyway. It feels like a step backwards for QT. I mean, hasn't he already done his blaxsploitation homages with Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown? If dude is going to do a western I'd rather see him take it completely out of that genre. Bring something new to his game.

  • May 8, 2011, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Will Smith not a great actor...

    by Hipshot

    But definitely a very good one. Most of the actors in Tarantino movies are very good, but not "great". He casts charismatic stars, and then turns their personas on their heads. Smith will work well for this, Six Degrees, Happyness, Seven Pounds and Ali all prove he can act. His other films prove he can pull in staggering box office with regularity. "Django" will demand both acting ability (to make the drama work) and charisma (to make the movie successful.) Compare the number of movies about the Civil War with the number of films that have dealt with Slavery, and you'll grasp the cultural avoidance, and risk of failure. I'd say Tarantino has written a three-quadrant film. There are definitely elements that will attract white males (violence and sex), black males (same, plus revenge fantasy), white females (to a degree--if the lead is sufficiently attractive to women). But black women aren't going to groove to this--quite exploitative, without sufficient redemption or personal initiative to balance some of the imagery. There WILL be complaints, I can promise you, if it is shot as is. It can be fixed, and if Smith does the movie, I'm quite sure there will be conversation on this point. Jada is quite opinionated. Done right, this could be the first film that crosses that critical 100-million mark with a black male sex scene. And those of you who've read it will understand why I cringe a bit when I write that.

  • May 8, 2011, 7:50 a.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by Hipshot

    Only two of Tarantino's movies have ever crossed the 100 million mark: Pulp Fiction (107 million) and "Inglorious Basterds" (120 million) for a per-film average of 61 million dollars. Smith, on the other hand, has crossed the 100 million mark TWELVE times, the 200 million mark FOUR times, for a per-screen average of 132 million dollars. Since Independence Day, only Bagger Vance, Ali and Seven Pounds have failed to cross that 100 million mark. There is NOTHING certain about Tarantino having a huge hit, especially if the film deals with taboos that have trashed films for decades--and black male sex is one of 'em. 2/3 of Smith's "failures" touched that "third rail" (Ali and Seven Pounds) and it is an interesting question how much that hurt. Since no Asian or Black star has ever been able to get across that 100 million line in a movie where they have a love scene, it is arguable that this is a problematic film indeed. Now, I suspect that "Django" can do it (make that kind of money, have that kind of success)...but to do it, he needs Smith more than Smith needs him.

  • May 8, 2011, 8:58 a.m. CST

    DJANGO Vs. RANGO

    by KHjLL

    I think RANGO is a top 10-20 WESTERN of all time... for me top 10... TARANTINO's black why does everyone have a problem with it? Wonder who the rest of the characters are going to be... If the BOUNTY HUNTER is the head of a POSSE... PEOPLE watch a DJANGO film or 2 great great franchise and history in cinema W DJANGO is the BOMB...

  • May 8, 2011, 9 a.m. CST

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Tarantino

    by KHjLL

    to prove my point...

  • May 8, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    TAKE A HARD RIDE...

    by KHjLL

    Wonder if Q paid homeage to it....

  • May 8, 2011, 10:13 a.m. CST

    GRINHOUSE presents: PLANET TERROR and DEATH PROOF...

    by KHjLL

    As one film was the best film of that year...

  • The same way he did in the Wild Wild Wild West. He better look and talk like he's from the 19th century. I don't want Will Smith's character screaming things like, Oh Snap!, or that Gun is Da Bomb Yo! I'm a real stickler for period movies staying true to their time. True Grit gets it right. I really felt like I time traveled back to the Old West in that Film.

  • May 8, 2011, 10:39 a.m. CST

    @ Jimmy 009 and Hipshot

    by planetran_fan

    Jimmy 009: So guys and gals who were abducted in Africa, and brought to the US and sold as slaves wouldn't have an accent? You need to get that Disneyfied Uncle Remus stereotype out of your head my friend. Hipshot: The academy recognizes sub-par performances all the time with a seemingly progressive liberal agenda, or sentimentally, because the individual has "paid his/her dues." That applies to folks of all colors. And while it may not be a "fact," it is the conventional wisdom. But this was a discussion about Will Smith who has benefitted from this hidden agenda, and it roped-a-dope like you and Jimmy 009 into the knee-jerk response of crying racism where none exists.

  • May 8, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    If QT wants to make this a 'classic' he NEEDS Tim Roth...

    by workshed

    ...you know it, I know it, QT knows it. Write him a part. Now.

  • May 8, 2011, 2:53 p.m. CST

    N-bomb record

    by vizio

    We all know how much QT likes to use the word "nigger" in his movies. Now we have Will Smith fighting racists? Oh yeah, this movie is gonna set the record...

  • May 8, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Planetron_fan

    by Hipshot

    Exactly where do you think I "cried racism where none exists"? Look at my words. Be precise. ## Liberal agenda? Like giving John Wayne an Oscar celebrating his entire ouvre, while handing it to him for a particular film? Yes, artists tend to be liberal, but suggesting that you KNOW a role doesn't deserve an Oscar is no more than a single vote. If someone else believes it does, that is one more vote. Unless there is some reason to believe you have access to objective truth on something subjective like acting, you are mistaking your opinion for fact.

  • May 8, 2011, 4:53 p.m. CST

    yeah tim roth as a slave owner!

    by FleshMachine

    i love that guy

  • May 8, 2011, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Kill Bill was accurately rated: Highly!

    by FleshMachine

    great films.

  • May 8, 2011, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Will "Django" Smith: AAAH HELL NAW,MUS-TAH

    by KilliK

  • May 8, 2011, 7:49 p.m. CST

    hipshot, not sure what you're talking about...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    you seem to be responding to me about something i never even brought up to you. and your point is moot by the very simple (and obvious) fact that Smith has made waaay more movies than Tarantino, so of course he's had more hundred million dollar hits on his resume...QT's average for the amount of films he's made is extremely good for his budgets....and no one is saying this has to make a hundred million.

  • May 8, 2011, 9:16 p.m. CST

    billy_d_

    by Hipshot

    If I was a little sharp in my reply, allow me to apologize...I may have been pissed off by something someone else said, and allowed that to seep into my answer to you. Sorry. Here is your comment I was reacting to: "QT's built in audience really doesn't care...they sat through incessant uses of the "n" word in most of his movies, i seriously doubt his fans will be staying away in droves because it has slavery as a backdrop." ## And my thought: Tarantino wants major hits. He would love to get across that 100 million mark. Django Unchained is hugely controversial in some aspects I've discussed before, including a black man getting laid, which is poison at the box office if you want broad acceptance (getting across that Century mark). Even Smith couldn't do it (note 7 Pounds and Ali). For Tarantino to have even a hope, he needs not just an actor, but a star, the black performer who will bring the largest audience to the table--and that is Smith. What Tarantino can give to Smith is greater legitimacy--he brings fabulous acting out of his performers (and yes, I include Pitt. Pitt was NOT playing a WW2 soldier. He was playing a B-movie actor PLAYING a WW2 soldier. Too many people didn't get the joke!) While Smith brings his audience and charisma. My guess: together, they might create the second most honored film of Smith's career (too exploitative to top Ali) and the most financially successful film of Tarantino's career (considering that Smith's lifetime average is still about thirty million higher than Tarantino's best box office.) It is indeed a marriage made in Hollywood Heaven for both of them. In no way shape or form am I knocking Tarantino about this. Love his work and see everything he does the first day it comes out.

  • May 8, 2011, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Best Django Sequels?

    by John

    What are the best Django sequels? Original Django now on Netflix InstantView!

  • May 8, 2011, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Wild Wild West was awful...

    by Hipshot

    But honestly, can you think of ANY actor who could have pulled that mess off? Even Will didn't want to do it, but hell, who can turn down twenty million dollars? No, he wasn't being an artist, but if we can understand Robert DiNiro phoning it in for the money, you have to shrug: if the studio is stupid enough to pay the man, and then deliver an offensively stupid script, and a director with no idea of action, whatcha gonna do? Sure hope he's learned to ride a horse since then...that was painful to watch.

  • May 8, 2011, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Columbus Short or Laz Alonzo

    by Dr.007

    Sounds like the role needs to go slightly younger so give it to someone needing a signature role not a stunt casting

  • May 8, 2011, 11:47 p.m. CST

    That said

    by Dr.007

    Michael K Williams would ROCK

  • May 8, 2011, 11:55 p.m. CST

    WILL SMITH WILL NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, NEVER, NEVER

    by BSB

    play a slave. Bottom line, folks.

  • May 9, 2011, 2:42 a.m. CST

    i dont see Denzel in the role at all

    by Billy_D_Williams

    he's too straight, too dour...the role i read is of a charismatic wry humor type younger guy...

  • May 9, 2011, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Tarantino doesn't generally cast Great actors

    by Hipshot

    He casts good actors, and familiar faces, and then stands their images on their heads. I think charisma can be measured by how many people will turn out to see them, not how much you or I personally like someone. Smith has more charisma than all but two or three actors in the world, by that measure.

  • May 9, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST

    So, do all westerns have to end in -ango now?

    by impossibledreamers

    How about: Texas Tango? Montana Mango? Bingo-Bango? Da Nango (Vietnam Western) Fandango? Let'em Hango Wingo-Wango Pango (Western with a video game penguin) Kango...roo

  • May 9, 2011, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Spike Lee will hate this movie.

    by v3d

  • An unchained slave who kills white people is not the type of image he would like to be associated with....especially since many people already perceive him that way because of the way he's conquering Hollywood. <p> This may have been a PR move by QT because by mentioning Smith's name, he has now created buzz and interest in his next project. If he had said he was courting Chiwitel Ejiofor it would have been back page news, if that.

  • WTF

  • May 9, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Gay and slave

    by Hipshot

    My take on that comment was that Smith is comfortable stepping out of his personae for the sake of the right role. "Gay" and "slave" are both outside a straight black man's self-identity, and therefore similar.

  • May 9, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST

    This is GREAT!!!!

    by bagwanbob

    Bigotry AND zero-G Defication! This place has it ALL!!!!

  • May 9, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST

    HIPSHOT

    by BSB

    I get that, but while portraying a homosexual is a testament to Smith's acting ability in playing against his particular type (discounting all the rumors, of course :)), portraying a slave hits way too close to home. My comment coincides exactly with what Bobo said. Smith did not groom his career on carefully chosen parts that *enhance* the image of the black man, only to end up playing a slave for N-word loving QT. I wouldn't be surprised if Smith ordered a Code Red on him for even making the suggestion.

  • May 9, 2011, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Spike Lee

    by Hipshot

    Would probably find this a guilty pleasure, with a few modifications (from what I've heard). The black female character needs to be more pro-active, and the black male character needs more sex. That is all.

  • May 9, 2011, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Samuel L. Jackson...HELLO.

    by knowthyself

    This is obvious casting.

  • May 9, 2011, 11:31 a.m. CST

    orionsangels

    by knowthyself

    The dialogue in basterds was all modern. I'm more worried about QT's bloated self serving writing more than I am about will smith's modern sensibilities.

  • May 9, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    bobo:

    by Billy_D_Williams

    "An unchained slave who kills white people is not the type of image he would like to be associated with....especially since many people already perceive him that way because of the way he's conquering Hollywood. " how the fuck do you know what he wants to do? are you on his team of reps??? do you have a crystal ball???

  • May 9, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by Hipshot

    That's interesting. I'd say he was willing to play a spiritual guide (Bagger Vance) and a pretty vulgar character in "Bad Boys," so that he's got a little tolerance for attitude. In context, all the "niggers" make sense, and is just language. The real question will be the actions of the characters, and the journey they take. Smith is as smart about choosing roles as anyone has ever been, money wise, but he's earned probably half a billion dollars. At some point, you care about your legacy. Part of that is grooming his children for their own adulthood. Part of it is finding roles to stretch himself. "Django", if the script is modified a bit, (make the black female character more pro-active, maybe let Django get laid) could be a great role. Even without the extra sex for Django, it could still be great if a bit more volition is given to his wife: she's too much of a doormat, and if I was a black woman, I'd spit on that role. But Jada will have something to say about that, I think. So...yes. It is possible. I'd be excited if I thought he would do it, because I think Smith is a fine actor, and smarter than hell. And I think Django could cross that illusive 100-million barrier no film with non-white male sex has ever crossed, and I think Smith would like to make history. We'll see.

  • May 9, 2011, 12:20 p.m. CST

    HIPSHOT

    by BSB

    Since I haven't seen either Bad Boys or Bagger Vance, and you've obviously read the script, I'll defer to your intuition on the matter. But damn. You sure have sex on the mind!

  • May 9, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST

    billy d williams....I'm Jaden fucking Smith, motherfucker

    by Bobo_Vision

    So take some xanax and chill the fuck out.

  • May 9, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST

    i love how people assume to know what Smith is thinking...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    was this guy worried about his "image" in Bad Boys 2??? Gunning down his own black brothers? (the Haitians), running over dead corpses? gunning down racist white supremacists? if he has no problem gunning down white racists in Bad Boys 2, why wouldn't he have a problem gunning down racist slave owners in the deep south??? was he worried about his "image" in Hancock??? sorry, but you guys seem to have selective memory...Django is NOT a stretch from the other roles he's played, i know because i've read the script.

  • May 9, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    HOLY SHIT I REALLY WANT TO SEE BAD BOYS 2 NOW!

    by BSB

    Queued!

  • May 9, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST

    hipshot

    by Billy_D_Williams

    you assume to know an awful lot about Smith and his thinking...and he DOES get laid in the script, by his wife the bottom line is no one knows whats on Smith's mind but Smith.

  • May 9, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by Hipshot

    Not really. It is a measure of unconscious racism: the presence of sexuality when performed by non-group males. I just noticed a few decades ago that if I sorted movies that way, an odd "blip" showed up: despite the fact that about 23% of blockbusters have sex, and about 20% of blockbusters star non-white males, those circles never overlapped. If I'd noticed the same thing about, say, characters surviving, it wouldn't be ME that was hung up on it...it would be the audiences, whose unconscious preferences create the "blip." I'm just the middle finger pointing to the moon.

  • May 9, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by Hipshot

    We all draw conclusions, based on our grasp of human nature, and also published comments, and the opinions of people we know who know the people in question. I don't think I know his mind, but can make some educated guesses. Yes, they have sex. I don't want to be too specific for the sake of people reading this who don't know whats in the script, but let's just say the scene is nothing anyone would relish, shall we? I strongly suspect that if the writer had been black, there would have been at least one sexual act where the guy got to enjoy himself--especially considering that there are multiple sex scenes in the movie. Only the white guys have a good time. That implies to me that QT was letting his private fantasies get the best of him.

  • May 9, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Shaping up. This could kick some ass

    by bottombrick

    Only casting rumors on male parts so far, good sign.

  • May 9, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Og God, Please not another film involving slavery.

    by The Founder

    As a black person, and I can probably speak for a lot of us. Um No to this project. White people like these slavery films more then blacks. I just don't care to see another no matter who is directing and whats gonna be done. No No No No!!!!

  • It's pathetic.

  • Her last name is Roberts.

  • May 9, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST

    the founder, I agree

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    When I heard the premise I was disappointed because it involves slavery.

  • Look to examples in the exploitation westerns of the 60's and 70's. It's pertinent to the genres and the subtext of 'revenge fantasy'.

  • May 9, 2011, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Forget Will Smith. Get Denzel.

    by riskebiz

    Will Smith would never do this. It is not part of his film vocabulary. I think Denzel Washington would be a good fit for Tarantino.

  • May 9, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    If Smith turns this down...

    by riskebiz

    ...it'll rank up there with Warren Beatty turning down Kill Bill as stupid moves.

  • May 9, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST

    hipshot...only the white guys have a good time?????

    by Billy_D_Williams

    ---SPOILERS--- They rape the bitch... are you kidding me dude? thats not the kind of "enjoyment" our main black hero should be getting...now if there was a sex scene in the movie where a white guy makes love to a woman, you'd have a point, but the ENTIRE POINT OF THE SCENE is that they rape his wife in front of him, fueling his hate and revenge for them...that's the character...an extra sex scene would add nothing to the story of the character...this whole "give a black man a sex scene" bullshit contest with white male leads is nothing but a bitter pissing contest...you cant just add sex scenes to movies arbitrarily...most of the time, sex scenes dont work, add nothing, and just make everyone in the audience uncomfortable... Django isn't fucking James Bond...i dont want to see that motherfucker in a sex scene, i wanna see him kill his tormentors...its a simple, clean, well told story that doesn't need a sex scene...the rape scene was needed because it adds to the narrative...

  • May 9, 2011, 6:17 p.m. CST

    WHAT IS THIS A NEW BLACK PANTHER RALLY?

    by BSB

  • May 9, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST

    THAT'S NOT A GOOD TIME

    by BSB

    Sounds like Blood Diamond meets I Spit On Your Grave

  • You got sex on the mind!

  • May 9, 2011, 6:54 p.m. CST

    billy_d

    by Hipshot

    The first guys rape her, then the son screws her tenderly, and then a final guy is boffing her at the end. Sorry, the son at the very least, inarguably, is having the time of his life. Lots of sex being sandwiched in there. I notice sex because it is clear that there is a gross imbalance, and it is one forced by white audiences and filmmakers. It shows up statistically, you can't deny it, all you can do is wonder why I keep mentioning it. I'm not the one creating the market pressure to skew the stats, dudes. And yep, I'll keep talking about it until it stops happening. The fact that black actors like Denzel and Will can't have love scenes without poisoning their box office is one of the biggest open secrets in Hollywood, and white guys would LOVE for me to stop mentioning it. Nope. Not until it stops.

  • May 9, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST

    GOOD FOR YOU HIPSHOT

    by BSB

    Everybody should have a hobby.

  • May 9, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    hipshot

    by Billy_D_Williams

    you say a "good time" is rape??? the fuck? your example is stupid...you say the black hero should have sex, then use rape as a comparison of the white men getting a "good time" while Django doesn't??? while i understand your overall point, your example is beyond weird...and you're pretty sick dude... *slowly backs away from keyboard*

  • May 9, 2011, 7:21 p.m. CST

    billy_d_

    by Hipshot

    You can stay right at the keyboard: you can't insult me without my permission, which you don't have. The guys certainly think they're having a good time. But of course that's not what I'm referring to. You saw the sweet scene of the son being gently fucked. Aw, isn't that sweet? Yep, a good time, and generations of white guys considered screwing slaves to be a good time. Hard to say they were all wrong--in context. No, I don't want Django raping some white woman. But considering the movie is constructed from pieces of other films, the notorious sex scene in "Mandingo" would seem a natural, if you're going to go down that road. Which QT wouldn't, because that's not his fantasy. I'm not sick at all, but I certainly recognize a social sickness when I see it. Once upon a time, black characters died consistently in action films. It only stopped because people like me kept drawing attention to it. And when we did, people like you said: "hey, it's just a movie! Why are you obsessed with this stuff..?" Because it amuses me to point out social dysfunction, that's why.

  • May 9, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST

    planetran_fan

    by Hipshot

    Hmmm. I certainly enjoy him, but not that way.

  • May 9, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST

    IT'S JUST A MOVIE!! WHY ARE YOU OBSESSED WITH THIS STUFF?!

    by blakindigo

    Oh wait… You're not the one financing movies where a chaste Black hero fights hard to save the privileged status quo… damn.

  • Fuck,i just got hard. Mr QT and Mr Will Smith make this movie prondo.and make it as visceral and realistic as possible,ala Irreversible style. you have a sure oscar/BO winner there gentlemen.

  • May 9, 2011, 8:02 p.m. CST

    QT's only fantasy is the feet. So we are probably

    by KilliK

    going to have a scene where the wife of the Mus-tah commands him to kiss her dirty legs because she wants to humiliate him since he is a black slave and all that.yeap.

  • May 9, 2011, 8:07 p.m. CST

    hipshot

    by Billy_D_Williams

    your example still makes no sense. Django IS making love...to his wife...he is getting pleasure...the scene then goes completely dark with the rape...QT essentially kills two birds with one stone in a single scene, and still you're not satisfied. you basically want a sex scene for Django with no rape, so a black dude can get pleasure in a movie (yup, you're still weird). But the rape is necessary...so the only way to please you and QT is to have two sex scenes...your normal one, then the rape...but its two sex scene, which is completely redundant and the mark of an amateur...im glad QT did it his way, which is brilliant. why dont you take your weird fetishes and channel them into pornography, plenty of porn websites where you can see black men getting the pleasure you do desperately desire for them...*shudders*

  • May 9, 2011, 8:32 p.m. CST

    if i understand correctly,i think Hipshot's point is that

    by KilliK

    Django,the black guy that is,does not have any scene in the movie where he is making love aka emotional sex with someone he loves. There is the love scene with his wife but that is interrupted abruptly and its mood/atmosphere and emotional state is replaced with the terror and disgust of the rape. so even in this case,the black dude AGAIN is not getting a proper,full love scene thus re-affirming the trend that black protagonists dont have love scenes in Hollywood movies in order not to disrupt the average white audience. Hipshot says that if QT wants to break this tradition and make his point about the white guilt/black slavery subject ,he needs to have one more scene with Django making love aka sex with someone he loves,he has emotions with. otherwise the movie fails in the department of making it's message loud about that specific part of the American History to the modern movie audience,because ironically it falls victim to the same taboo that Hollywood,which is about black leads in movies making love with women. am i right mr Hipshot or i got it wrong?

  • May 9, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST

    why? has he directed other rape movies?

    by KilliK

  • May 9, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST

    killik

    by Billy_D_Williams

    "Django,the black guy that is,does not have any scene in the movie where he is making love aka emotional sex with someone he loves." uh, yes he does, ive read the fucking script dude...Django is making love to his wife.

  • May 9, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST

    one_last_job - DJANGO sequels....

    by KHjLL

    Best Django Sequels? by one_last_job There's like 50... W DJANGO! is a goodie VIVA DJANGO DJANGO vs. SARTANA DJANGO AND SARTANA'S SHOWDOWN IN THE WEST KEOMA - thou not a sequel but was marketed as a sequel...MANNAJA is fun but also the same... SUKIYAKI WESTERN: DJANGO - My fav Django 2: il grande ritorno Django, this bullet for You (1966) Django strikes first (1966) Django the last slaughter (1967) Django, kill (If you live, shoot!) (1967) Don't wait, Django! Shoot! (1967) Son of Django (1967) Ten thousand dollars for a massacre (1967) Man, pride, revenge (1967) Django kills slowly (1968) Django get a coffin ready! (1968) Django does not forgive (1969) Gallows-rope for Django (1969) False Django (1969) Django the bastard (1969) One damned day at dawn… Django meets Sartana (1969) Django against Sartana (1970) Django and Sartana are coming… It's the end! (1970) Sartana’s here… trade your pistol for a coffin (1970) Django defies Sartana (1971) Django is always No 2 (1971) Django's cut price corpses (1971) A ballad of Django (1971) A gun for Django (1971) A man called Django (1971) Shoot, Django! Shoot first! (1971) Django... Adios! (1972) Long live Django! (1972) Django strikes again (1987)

  • May 9, 2011, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Killik

    by Hipshot

    You pretty much have it right. I LOVE the fact that I'm called "weird" if I want to point out that white guys all over the country will stay away in droves if this single bit of imagery is used, and have for forty years. It pisses people off that I won't stop talking about it, and that's fine with me. I'm weird because I'd like to see a black man engage in the same loving, healthy behavior white guys see in blockbusters all the time. I'm weird. That is such projection--it keeps those same white guys from wondering why they have such an aversion to seeing it. Then again, introspection can be a painful thing.

  • May 9, 2011, 9:15 p.m. CST

    billy-d

    by Hipshot

    I've read the script too. Django is making love to his wife--and then it is interrupted, hideously. The fact that somehow that doesn't translate to you as "ah...not exactly a love scene. That is a fucking horror scene. A brutal, terrifying gang-rape scene" is fascinating. How in the hell you can call that a love scene is utterly beyond me...unless you're empathizing with the rapists. I certainly wouldn't accuse you of that.

  • May 9, 2011, 9:15 p.m. CST

    killik, hipshot

    by Billy_D_Williams

    jesus fucking H. christ you liberals are never satisfied QT wrote a sex scene into the script where the black hero is making passionate love to his wife. YES, she is raped by the "white devils" in the same scene, but Django STILL makes love to his wife, he gets pleasure, he enjoys it (obviously). QT obviously wanted Django to be totally humiliated...he wanted his wife raped...the scene in question is a flashback...in fact, all the scenes (besides the middle and end) between Django and the wife is flashback...the PRESENT narrative of the script is after he's been separated from his wife, so the ONLY way to insert a sex scene is to do a flashback...now, given the delicate nature of flashbacks, meaning you cant have them be TOO long, especially in a 3 hour movie, its necessary to be economical...that means QT combining Django's sex scene with his wife, with the rape is a stroke of brilliance because it: a)fuels Django's (and our) hatred for the white devils and the desire to see them killed b)keeps the flashbacks to a minimum, conserving screen time c)reinforces the very point you liberal fucks are preaching...that black men can't get some lovin' on screen...the white devils STOP this from happening...in this case, the white devils in the film, and the white devil producers in Hollywood..they are virtually interchangeable, giving the scene several meanings all at once... point c. is the stroke of brilliance of the scene...yet thick headed liberals ignore that and can only see their own shortsighted agenda...QT is so brilliant you guys cant even comprehend what he's doing its quite hilarious

  • May 9, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    so my point stands...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    the sex scene/rape is a brilliant spin on the very point hipshot is complaining about...i'd rather see this brilliant twist, than some thick headed liberal agenda shoe-horned into this movie...i trust QT oh, and im black and i get laid plenty...im not insecure enough to need my sexual existence validated by some fucking movie. im not going to waste my blood pressure getting mad about what some white men in hollywood feel is necessary to please their shareholders..those mothefuckers have never done anything for me hipshot, if you're fed up, write a fucking letter to congress, keep your shitty ideas out of brilliant movies.

  • May 9, 2011, 9:37 p.m. CST

    IF YOU GUYS WANT ME TO SHUT UP, SAY SO AND I'LL OBLIGE

    by BSB

  • May 9, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST

    bsb - shut up

    by Billy_D_Williams

    just kidding, as you were

  • May 9, 2011, 9:44 p.m. CST

    BILLY_D

    by BSB

    It's cool broo. Need to recharge and resume posting tomorrow. G'nite fellas.

  • May 9, 2011, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Smith would be good

    by JaredP

    but denzel would be even better or idris elba

  • May 9, 2011, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Michael K Williams would be a horrible choice (srs)

    by The Grug

    As amazing as he was in The Wire, if anyone has seen his turn in Boardwalk Empire, you'll know he can't play 'period'. Idris Elba would be a great choice though. I like Will Smith, and I like Tarantino, even if their films aren't great, I still tend to enjoy watching them. Happy to see this.

  • May 10, 2011, 12:02 a.m. CST

    And the most annoying talkbacker award goes to.....

    by Bobo_Vision

    ...billy. d. williams in this particular talkback. To place your votes for billy....type "billy d. williams" in the subject headline.

  • May 10, 2011, 1:10 a.m. CST

    i vote bobo for even coming up with the idea...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    do u really love me that much you cant stop thinking about me?

  • May 10, 2011, 1:17 a.m. CST

    "do you love me so much that you can't stop thinking about me?"

    by Bobo_Vision

    Dude, every second comment in this talkback is yours. You are reaching asimovlives status. If that's your goal...then be proud.

  • May 10, 2011, 1:50 a.m. CST

    every second comment? sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet.

    by Billy_D_Williams

    unless you're being literal, in which case you're dumber than i thought. still cant get me outta your mind i see. what is it about me that you're so obsessed with?

  • May 10, 2011, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Delusions of grandeur, billy.

    by Bobo_Vision

    Billy, you directed like 3 comments at me before I even acknowledged you exist. Every second comment...yes, billy, that is called sarcasm....it doesn't translate well for those with Asperger's syndrome. Now keep tooting your horn you fucking retard and maybe someone else will pay attention to you and your retarded tirade about Will Smith you Asperger's syndrome motherfucker.

  • May 10, 2011, 6:41 a.m. CST

    I refuse to believe...

    by Hipshot

    That if a white guy was making love to his wife in a movie, and a bunch of black men came in, forced them to perform like animals, and then gang raped her, anyone would refer to this as a "love scene." At the very most, the VERY most, this would be referred to as an "interrupted love scene." In all likelihood, it would be considered one of the most horrible moments in the history of film, anchoring massive pain and fear to what should have been a moment of intimacy and joy. The fact that you can't see that is pitiable. There is only one reason I continue this conversation. 1) To allow conservatives to demonstrate that, to them, a black family's violation and rape equals a "love scene"--it is important that people understand just how warped the Right can be. 2) Quentin Tarantino reads this blog from time to time. Clearly. And he knows that the script got leaked. I doubt sincerely that he isn't interested in reactions. By forcing this conversation to take place publicly, and forcing you guys to show your hands, I know that he, or someone who knows him, will see these thoughts. He then gets to decide whether to discount it, or perhaps ask some of his black female friends what they think of the possibility that he went too far. But the fact that you've continued to attack me, giving me an excuse to keep talking about it, is gratifying in the extreme. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Suckers.

  • May 10, 2011, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Fucks up every movie he is in??????

    by Mr.Vengeance

    Someone suggested that michael j white fucks up every movie he is. Not seen all his flicks but i dont get the statement. How comes a lot of haters to certain suggestions, just make a statement in the suggestion box and dont explain themselves and try and make a point. I have found him to be a good actor that cant get any decent roles, he is a versatile actor in the Snipes vein that can do comedy, drama and martial arts, if they ever fancy another shot at blade after the god awful 3 and need a new actor he would be great. Just think the dude needs a decent break.

  • May 10, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    And tolerated...

    by bagwanbob

  • May 10, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    That was in response to:

    by bagwanbob

    Why does every topic on a black actor or movie turn into a racist rampage on these boards.

  • May 10, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    bagwonbob

    by Hipshot

    simple reason that discussions of successful black people in any field bring out racism: because about 10% of the human race is seriously racist, and with the anonymity of the internet their nasty little natures can fly free. Take it as a lesson in how people really are with their masks off. Learn and grow.

  • May 10, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST

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    by KHjLL