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Will killing Osama Bin Laden make CAPTAIN AMERICA the film to beat this summer?

Published at: May 1, 2011, 11:34 p.m. CST by AICNStaff

 

 

Hey folks, Harry here...  It's movie night here at my house, which means I'm watching weird usually violent films.   Tonight, I happened to be watching THE STONING OF SORAYA M.  A brilliant film about the horrors of perverted fundamentalism gone wildly wrong.   As the end credits were rolling, Diana's boyfriend texted her that "Osama Bin Laden killed by U.S.A. & Obama" - There goes the double feature - now it's watching, reading, learning what happened.   Joking about pronouncing "AAAaaaaBBBBBott-a-bad" like Lou Costello...   Thinking that this could help CAPTAIN AMERICA to be a enormous cultural milestone...  and I do seriously think Captain America will be huge domestically.   The flag waving I'm seeing, will only increase as we meet the HEROES that went on this mission.   Their dramatic storytelling will get folks going for months.   America's super soldiers did get the bad guy...   Or will the real heroes eclipse the propagandistic fictional heroes?   I'm betting on MARVEL on this.   

Anyway - because this site is for a global community - I figured - I'd give you a spot to comment.   I mean, this is essentially the thing we never did do to Hitler.   He took his own life.   We did get Osama Bin Laden, does that frighten readers around the world?   Is this a big deal for those outside the U.S. - and if so how?   What do you think of all this?   It is a historic moment in history.   

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  • May 1, 2011, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Post 0

    by HEADGEEK

    Will killing Osama Bin Laden make CAPTAIN AMERICA the film to beat this summer?

  • May 1, 2011, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Obama FTW

    by Toe Jam

  • May 1, 2011, 11:35 p.m. CST

    I still think Green Lantern will make the most

    by Murraypalooza

    ...but I'm biased. :)

  • May 1, 2011, 11:36 p.m. CST

    RIP Osama

    by Box_Bruceleitner

    The best always die so young.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:37 p.m. CST

    July 4th, not July 22nd

    by ArcherNX01

    Please do it Feige, you'll totally blow Transformers off the moon.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:37 p.m. CST

    UGH

    by CimmerianWarrior

    I won't believe it until I see the body. All of it. No pictures, no proof.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:37 p.m. CST

    AMERICA!

    by manzoniman

    Fuck yeah.

  • If only because Captain America is a much more recognized character than Green Lantern. This is also why "Thor" will fail miserably, especially with "Fast Five" packing in the crowds.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:38 p.m. CST

    by Ian Campbell

    pics or gtfo

  • May 1, 2011, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Fascinating day in history and culture

    by Patch

    Obama just won a second term. I'll go one further and predict that this event spurs the true American recovery.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Osama Bin Gotten

    by dark-knight02

    Couldn't help myself. It can't hurt Cap's numbers.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Osama Bin Laden's last words...

    by nyeargh

    "Nyeeeaaarrrrggggghhhhhh!!!"

  • May 1, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST

    WB has really blown the Green Lantern ads thus far.

    by JuanSanchez

    Based on ads I'd say Thor and Captain America will out-gross it.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST

    This is a day that will be long remembered

    by Superponte

    It has seen the death of Bin Laden, and will soon see the end of the terrorists

  • May 1, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST

    It took way too long to matter..

    by MST3KPIMP

    It's like Ted Bundy escaping prison 3 times before finally being fryed. He made a mockery out of our system.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Nah, I think The Smurfs are going to own the summer.

    by MonsterKilledThePilot

    They're the real heroes.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    On a more serious note...

    by nyeargh

    Awesome moment for the U.S.A, and the rest of the world for that matter. A definite game-changer...

  • May 1, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    OOOOHH RRAAAAAA

    by corplhicks

    Thank you American forces, especially the Special Ops Personnel, for killing that fucking piece of shit monster responsible for murdering many many thousands of people (not just Americans !!) in multiple continents. Good fucking riddance for the planet Earth and if there is a G-d, and an afterlife, no doubt he is getting a serious "what for" for eternity !

  • May 1, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    nah

    by Bobba Phat

    I think the general public will realize that Captain America is just a 'comic book' movie, and Marvel will certainly not stoop to the shittiest depths of promoting CA w/bin Laden propaganda. Also, I think Captain America coming out in late July will diminish that patriotic swell. If Captain America came out next Friday instead of Thor? I think it'd be a whole other story. But as it is, I don't think this news will significantly impact Captain America box office either way (plus, our media is so shitty I'm confident there will be countless other hypes/controversies to fill people's minds).

  • May 1, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    But I don't think anything will make Captain the movie to beat.

    by JuanSanchez

  • May 1, 2011, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Tonight Obama is Captain America

    by Eternal Watcher

    and if Captain America was released Friday instead of Thor, it would be #1 through Memorial Day. I don't think Cap's movie will be affected by what happened tonight. American pride won't improve the story, acting or special effects. Only the movie can do that. That being said, expect the ads to capitalize on American pride to get people in the theaters in this country. If the movie is that good, it will have legs, and that will determine how well it does overseas.

  • The patriotism part will just be gravy.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:42 p.m. CST

    better do a double-tap on Osama..

    by nolan bautista

    ..just to be sure.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Also, how unbelievably BAD-ASS...

    by nyeargh

    ...must the guy who put the bullet between Bin Laden's eyes feel right now? Holy shit. I'd like to have THAT on my life resume!

  • This is great news. Congratulations to the people who found him, the people who killed him, and the leader who gave the go-ahead to take him dead or alive. Bin Laden may have been a figurehead lately, but his death at US hands is more than symbolic. Let's see if people will choose the strong horse over the dead horse. As for Captain America... I don't believe it will benefit or suffer from this news. For many people patriotism is uncouth, unthinkable to engage in and embarrassing to watch. This news won't get those people to watch a movie about Captain America.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:44 p.m. CST

    I bet braindrainRyan is blowin' up the TWITTERS right now!

    by nyeargh

    What say you, Mr. Pominville??

  • May 1, 2011, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Thanks for putting up a place to post, Harry!

    by thethedew

    There's a lot of quoting from 'Team America' to do! America! Fuck Yeah!

  • May 1, 2011, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Harry, where is the Osama Bin Laden obituary?

    by oogles

    This site is always so late for the obits.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:45 p.m. CST

    AMERICA! fuck yeah!

    by smutpeddlar

    were here to save the mutherfuckin day yeah!!

  • May 1, 2011, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Good Job ...

    by Todaysfate

    The details are coming out now. He wasn't in a cave. He was in a stronghold. Whats most impressive it that it wasnt a bomb that took him down, it was a team of troops going in the hard way. I wish there was only one bad guy in the world. Unfornately that is not the case and here comes the retaliation. I hope we are ready.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Yes, Captain America will be an even greater hit!!!

    by JarJar25

    So glad that Osama is dead, and it's about time! Yes, better do a double-tap on that bastard. Seems like an eternity in trying to capture or kill that guy. Have to say, I thought it might never happen. He seem so good at evading our turpo-lasers that we had to use small fighters to get him. This will be a day long remembered! It has seen the death of Osama Bin Laden and will soon see the end of the presidental race, before it even got started!

  • May 1, 2011, 11:46 p.m. CST

    nyeargh

    by thethedew

    There's a fair chance his bodyguards had instructions to do the deed if OBL in danger of being taken alive. At least that was what some of his bodyguards who have been captured over the years have said. We'll see.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:46 p.m. CST

    A friend of mine said this on Twitter, and I'm inclined to agree...

    by vroom socko

    I refuse to believe that Bin Laden is actually dead until Obama releases the long-form Death Certificate.

  • Obama got this done after Bush said he wasn't worried about bin Laden. It was Obama's decision to send in the Navy Seals that took this action, it was Obama who told the CIA to make getting bin Laden their No. 1 priority and it was Obama who nurtured the Intel on bin Laden's whereabouts that made this possible. A Democrat has brought justice to one of the greatest villains the world has ever known. A Democrat has brought justice to a symbol of hatred and tyranny. A Democrat who was and is often derided as not believing in American exceptionalism has just shown brought us an example of it. This was no hamfisted operation like Bush was synonymous with - this was a surgical-like operation with few or none civilian casualties and NO loss of US life. Here's to you President Obama - you and the brave men and women of the Armed Forces did it.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Too bad Bush had more to do with it than Obama

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    But of course libs will pick and choose what they'll credit Obama for.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Harry, is it ever NOT movie night at your house?

    by MovieSquad

    Just curious.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Good riddance Osama

    by Tacoloft

    Hoorah to Americas warriors!

  • May 1, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Freedom costs a...

    by nyeargh

    Buck-O-Five!

  • May 1, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Wow!! Best viral marketing program EVER!

    by Robert

    "Ok can we get the guy in the Captain America costume to pose by bin laden?'

  • May 1, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    On Twitter

    by Juggernaut125

    I follow a girl comic who claimed (and I quote) "I'd be scared if I was Michelle Obama's pussy right now."

  • May 1, 2011, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Thank you US TROOPS

    by ZOMBRE

    And THANK YOU BARACK OBAMA Now lets stop selling out jobs to China and put an end to CGI. (Jokes aside this is a great day for America)

  • May 1, 2011, 11:54 p.m. CST

    so can we expect........

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Marvel to dump the "The first avenger" part and just call this baby "Captain America" now? Anyway - excellent news...........USA!

  • May 1, 2011, 11:57 p.m. CST

    "Too bad Bush had more to do with it than Obama

    by Robert

    Really? Keep in mind this is 6 months after 9-11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o Fuck outta here.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Dip Bin Laden's corpse in pig blood!

    by Horace Cox

    Take a page out of Gen. Pershing's playbook. No heaven for the bullshit "martyr" that way.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:57 p.m. CST

    What an embarrassment

    by Scapulawings

    This topic makes me feel absolutely embarrassed to be an American and human being. You're betting on Marvel to capitalize on Osama Bin Laden's death? What the fuck are you talking about?! That's seriously the angle you're going for? Not everything has to be related to fucking nerd culture. Jesus fucking christ you empty fuck. What a joke.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Just Found Out How Dumb my facebook Friends Are

    by mjgtexas

    Actually thinking Obama set it up to interrupt The Apprentice and make Trump look bad. There's paranoia in dem Houston suburbs.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:59 p.m. CST

    When are we going to get this Bin Laden Movie? Let's Take Bets!!!

    by TheFirstTicketStub

    I'm going to say 3 years, directed by Oliver Stone, with Nic Cage and a bad hair do

  • May 1, 2011, 11:59 p.m. CST

    The Timing a lil too coincidental 'aint it?

    by Weapon M

    With the elections season getting in full swing. His approval ratings fluctuating at its lowest ever. The Birth certificate issue. "Boom! Hey guys look who I got!"- now pencil him in for a second term- done deal. Hmmm Can't help but wonder if that wasn't in the back pocket for a while now..

  • May 2, 2011, midnight CST

    mjgtexas

    by Robert

    At least one of my friends in Chicago thinks this is a ploy to win a re-election. So yeah I have dumb friends too.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:01 a.m. CST

    "Too bad Bush had more to do with it than Obama"

    by KazamaSmokers

    I can no longer tell what's a troll and what isn't.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:02 a.m. CST

    sorry it took so long to get you a copy of my birth certificate

    by antonphd

    but i was busy killing Osama Bin Ladin http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/8411/Obama_got_bin_Laden.jpg

  • May 2, 2011, 12:03 a.m. CST

    God Bless America!

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Lets hope they drop "first avenger" and go full on Captain America! And to whoever said Thor will fail, it's currently no 1 at the foreign box office. 93 Mill and it just opened in most countries.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Things are going to get worse!

    by vadakinX

    Make no mistake, this is a battle won, not the war. Bin Laden will become a martyr, Al Qaeda will be determined to strike back and so the coming months are going to be vital when it comes to security. Then there's the body. The White House have said that the body is being treated with care according to Muslim tradition, which is the right thing to do. In that case the body should be buried tonight in Pakistan. That probably won't happen. If the body is returned to Saudi Arabia and there's an open funeral, that could be very risky. The way Al Qaeda is set up, there is no central leadership anymore. It's a franchise. Bin Laden's death may drain their spirits but it won't break them. I guess for Americans it's a relief to know he's finally dead though I think the over the top celebrations are not a good idea. It's the equivalent of people on the streets of Muslim countries burning the American flag. While most Muslims certainly didn't agree with his violent tactics there are many who felt an affinity for his ideology. I think the measured and somber tone of Obama's statement was perfect. The celebrations by people in New York and Washington, while understandable, may ultimately do more harm than good. Things are going to get worse before they get better. Bin Laden hasn't had any real control in years. Each cell operates independently and so from a strategic point of view, his death means nothing but when it comes to trying to defeat the organisation. What it will do is is make them want to hit back as soon as possible. Vigilance is key.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Cash in on the keyword searches

    by ThurstonOne

    Whore out some quotes for the DVD sleeves, and by all means, don't bother to update the ID4 wallpaper. Load up on guns, bring your friends, etc.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:05 a.m. CST

    I remember when Bush was up for re-election there was speculation

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    that he would magically find Bin Ladin. Most likely its just coincidence, but it is interesting timing that its happening now.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:06 a.m. CST

    That is pretty funny how Harry's first reaction to this is...

    by nyeargh

    ...so how is this going to help Captain America's box office success? lmao

  • May 2, 2011, 12:07 a.m. CST

    One for the history books!!

    by wtriker1701

    If it's true, it will be a day never forgotten! But it would have been so much better, if he got before The Court! That's what Hitler evaded with his suicide, that sucker. Yes, Germany is with you on this historical day, Americans! If only now the AQ-Network self destructed, we could regain our freedom from global terror. If it's true, what we've been told...

  • May 2, 2011, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Bush???

    by timmer33

    After 9/11, George Bush decided to focus on Iraq ... a place that had ZERO Al Queda presence before that day ... and a place where bin Laden was most definitely not located. George Bush let Osama bin Laden live for a decade after the 9/11 attacks. George Bush said bin Laden's death was not his priority. ----- President Obama, on the other hand, made it a clear goal to kill bin Laden. He pulled out of Iraq. He increased troop presence in Afghanistan. He told CIA to make it their top priority to get bin Laden. How can anyone claim Bush had any hand in this? BTW --- congrats to the SEALs, the greatest special forces troops in the world. And since this is an entertainment site, let's not forget who was the first SEAL in popular culture: Thomas Sullivan Magnum IV.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST

    sithmenace_returns

    by Juggernaut125

    If you're on Twitter, follow a girl named 'Slashleen'. She is rude, foul-mouthed and twisted and she's one of the funniest/sickest people I have ever read.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST

    We are still in Iraq

    by room23storeblogspotcom

  • May 2, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Thor is doing more than okay around the world.

    by hank henshaw

    I'm surprised people here think it will tank in the U.S.A. As for Captain America, I have to agree that the events from today wont have an impact on the movies box office. I think it will make a profit because it'll be a fun ride, not because Bin Laden is dead.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Trump still wants to see a deat certificate!

    by Leatherw0lf

    heh heh heh.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    I wonder if

    by blackwood

    they're gonna change it back from THE FIRST AVENGER overseas now. I don't know what this means. I hope it means America is going to turn a corner toward sanity and peace.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    I wonder if

    by blackwood

    they're gonna change it back from THE FIRST AVENGER overseas now. I don't know what this means. I hope it means America is going to turn a corner toward sanity and peace.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    I wonder if

    by blackwood

    they're gonna change it back from THE FIRST AVENGER overseas now. I don't know what this means. I hope it means America is going to turn a corner toward sanity and peace.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    It's bittersweet

    by Scoob1978

    I work in midtown Manhattan and am a little worried about going to work tomorrow. Even if he just took credit for the attack let him rot in hell.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Eesh.

    by blackwood

    Tripled.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:13 a.m. CST

    I Hope This Brings The Left and Right Closer

    by eoneon

    Seriously, it seems the 2 major parties have grown so far apart from each other and have been fast to point fingers at each other, we need to end the hate and bring this country back together. so any of you extreme Dems or Republicans (both very scary btw) please take time to hug your fellow Americans and rejoice in the slaying of a horrible monster of a man. America is the greatest nation n the world and we need to show respect to each other and then maybe we will get the respect we deserve. peace

  • May 2, 2011, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Shoot his eyes out...

    by WeakThirdAct

    cowboy style, so his spirit won't be able to find its way to the Promised Land. Or something.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST

    chillout scapulawings

    by JL Symister

    "This topic makes me feel absolutely embarrassed to be an American and human being. You're betting on Marvel to capitalize on Osama Bin Laden's death? What the fuck are you talking about?! That's seriously the angle you're going for? Not everything has to be related to fucking nerd culture. Jesus fucking christ you empty fuck. What a joke." brotha, i kind of agree with ur point but at the same time this is aintitcool.com, bud. it ain't al-jazeera or cnn or something where an article like this would rightfully be fair game for crucifixion. but since this is a film sight i think harry has a valid point. man, america is gonna march into the theater with hard dicks and drippin cooches when Captain America is unleashed. He's A Walking Fucking Flag For Chrissakes!

  • "Too bad Bush had more to do with it than Obama by sierratangofoxtrotuniform "But of course libs will pick and choose what they'll credit Obama for." If Bush gets credit for killing Obama then can Obama get credit for killing Sadaam Hussein? Doing so would make just as much sense.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:16 a.m. CST

    FINALLY!!!!

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    I'm a conservative that hasn't been a big Obama fan...but Barack gets HIGH marks for getting this son of a bitch!!! Osama is dead! Osama is dead! Good god almighty Osama is dead!!! GO CRAZY USA!!!!!! Barack gets my vote in 2012

  • May 2, 2011, 12:16 a.m. CST

    "It is a historic moment in history."

    by Chris_P_Bacon

    Is that like a legendary day in legends? Whoever shot bin Laden deserves the Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    retaliation

    by CimmerianWarrior

    Oh great! Thanks for bringing that up! DAMN!! Be careful everyone!!! Seriously, be very careful. Some shit is going to happen in the form of revenge from the terrorists. Luckily for me, I live where there is nothing worth blowing up, unless they are going after Deer and Groundhogs now.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Charlie Sheen and Michael Biehn Killed Bin laden!!!

    by notcher

    Fucking NAVY SEALS!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    vadakinx how dare you make sense on this talkback

    by SydBarretsMyDad

    its unheard of!!

  • People would see THAT.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST

    I hope bin Laden got teabagged by a US soldier

    by Speed Fricassee

    Imagine if the security camera feeds show that in the news tomorrow.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Regarding his corpse...

    by nyeargh

    They should throw a dress on him and draw a bunch of dicks on his forehead. That'd be fair.

  • Ah well.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:24 a.m. CST

    There will be zero retaliation

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    like any of these terrorist a-holes have been biding their time when he was alive...Osama is dead, their leader is dead, see-ya later USA WINS!!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Watch the GOP Presidential Hopefuls

    by In Action Man Reborn Requiem

    Run for the exits.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Not a big fan of Obama...

    by ComSamVimes

    ...but I'd high five him if I could. Awesome news. Someone else mentioned it...but how bad ass is the team that went in there and shot those fuckers up? It's a good night for the world!

  • May 2, 2011, 12:27 a.m. CST

    AINT IT MEADOWE NEWS CUZ I POSTED ABOUT THIS FIRST

    by Meadowe

    you're welcome headgeek.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:27 a.m. CST

    LMAO! HARRY!

    by Weapon M

    The first thing you think about is Captain America's Box Office Draw!!!!? LMFAO!!! Man Guys here are letting you have it for that one!! Oh man, you know its true damn! I can imagine what was in your head at the initial moment. "Osama's Dead?? OH SHIT! I WONDER WHAT THIS WILL DO FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA IN THE BOX OFFICE!!!!!"

  • Which is to say,nothing at all. We'll still be in Afghanistan 20 years from now trying to establish peach and democracy and fighting insurgents. This is a hollow victory at best,and a VERY nice feather for Obamas cap,but I seriously doubt this will change a goddamn thing. We'll still have no civil liberties. Guantanamo Bay will still be open for business. The rest of the world will still hate us and out economy will still be in the toilet. But the symbol of 9-11 is dead. Yay.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:27 a.m. CST

    OBAMA GETS OSAMA!!

    by Carl's hat

    2012 baby!! 2012. p.s. any of you guys see the Dead Zone ep where Johnnie Smith went after Osama? Even he couldn't bloody find him!

  • May 2, 2011, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Meant to say peace...

    by Jobacca

    Although it would be pretty cool if we brought peaches to the middle east.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Burn in hell, Osama.

    by Raymar

  • May 2, 2011, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Need a new fear source for america

    by pauduro

    ASAP no more Binladen no more Husain......well I beat KIM is the new traget

  • May 2, 2011, 12:32 a.m. CST

    What Scapulawings said-

    by Hyphin

    Seriously? This article is so embarrassing. I don't even know how exactly to explain it why I think that. Who the HELL would consider how Captain America's box office will be effected by the death of Osama Bin Laden, something that is a MAJOR event in history. I hate to generalize (and that statement usually precedes a massive generalization), but it's an example of what pisses off people when they look at America. You ever think about what's might happen in Pakistan, to the MILLIONS of people there that may have to deal with the fallout from this thing that we here understandably believe is awesome? But wait, they're all terrorists, right? And how about this- why does Osama Bin Laden even exist? Remember the Soviet Union? So we've finally taken out this mass-murdering former ally, HOO RAH!? ...this is humanity we're talking about here. It's future is unfolding before eyes. The US spec ops have done a stand-up job and there is plenty to be proud of. But for fucks sake, Harry, CAPTAIN AMERICA?

  • May 2, 2011, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Where is the Bruce Campbell interview videos???

    by GetAPlate

    We have been waiting for then Harry. What happened?

  • May 2, 2011, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Dont worry fear-mongers...we still have Gaddafi

    by Jobacca

    He's an old enemy of the U.S.-we just killed his son and grandsons. This time....its personal!!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Fuck the b.o. for Captain America.

    by kermit_the_fraud

    Let this be a lesson for anyone that wants to target America. You can run. You can hide. What you WON'T do is rest easy. We're gonna find you. It might take a decade, it might take a week...your time is limited. And I fully understand and accept that any nation on this planet is going to get its hands dirty to further its ideological goals. I also happen to believe that the ideals of freedom of choice for all citizens is a goal worth striving towards. America is in no way perfect, but the core of its ideals is sound. And to all of those nations that have stood by us, through thick and thin.....a heart-felt THANK YOU.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST

    American ADHD

    by TrainWreck1969

    Harry, I'd love to think you are right, but Captain America is not opening until July. Americans have such a short attention span that they will have forgotten all about OBL and the special forces team that got him by that time. I'm ashamed of the Americans celebrating in the streets of NY & DC tonight. Murder is never a cause for celebration. That said, I hope the families of those who lost loved ones on 9/11 now have some closure. Can we now get onto more important issues in America...like how we are $11 trillion in debt and have mortgaged our nation's future to the People's Replublic of China.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Intersting times ahead...

    by bcom77

    I'm a Kiwi and although it's breaking news here, as it is all over the world, I don't think it has as much impact anymore. The guy managed to outrun the US for 10 years. In that time terrorism has run riot all over the world. I get the feeling that although it is a massive statement that Bin Laden has gone bye byes, it won't stop terrorism, in fact, it could even fuel it further as this will surely escalate the hate that the taliban and/or Al Quada (spelt wrong?) has towards the US. Celebrate yes, as I'm aware of how big a deal this is for America, but perhaps be a bit cautious. The war on terror is far from over.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:39 a.m. CST

    CA Even More Irrelevant

    by MarkWhittington

    Actually, since the director has made it clear that his version Captain America should better be named “Captain Citizen of the World”, the news of OBL’s execution makes the movie even more irrelevant. The guy who is crying in his beer now is Superman, who just renounced his American citizenship.

  • Or will people wait until next week until Wrestlemania 27 comes out to buy something to celebrate?

  • May 2, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Kind of weird post Harry....

    by blackflowerX

    As someone else said the war isn't over.Which sucks, but If it makes people who lost loved ones on 9/11 (or any other victim) feel some kind of justice , then its all good. He was an evil fuck at the end of the day.<BR><BR> TBH "Captain America " wasn't the first thing that came to mind when I heard the news . Doubt anyone would give a fuck really, but then I'm not in the U.S. <BR><BR> I just hope more people don't die if theres payback....<BR><BR> juggernaut125 , thanks for the heads up on Slashleen on Twitter . Shes funny as fuck.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Libya and Egypt are proof positive that

    by Robert

    the U.S. policy should be to get out of the middle east and let things work themselves out. Until then, terrorism will never die. We have too many problems in our own country to deal with.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Really?????? lmfao

    by NoMotivatioN

    Maaan, so many things wrong with this post. Well, what can we say, "ARRRMEICA fuuuck YEAHHHH!! Lauhing so loud at title of this post maaaan. I need a drink.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:44 a.m. CST

    @ how Harry Anounces O.B.L death. If anyone was wondering.

    by NoMotivatioN

  • May 2, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Actually...it wasn't a Democrat or Republican who did this.

    by RetroActive

    It was a government issue Navy Seal, according to the reports. Just because the President nodded his head (whether it was Bush or Obama), doesn't mean they get the credit. I'd love to know who the real heros on the ground are. Actually, maybe they should remain anonymous. Since every freak who thinks Osama was a hero will probably go after them. Look, I'm proud it happened. I didn't care who eventually got the credit. I just wanted it done. And it's done. While I agree that the, "Democrats can't keep us as safe" arguments are silly...if people are going to vote in 2012 based on this, instead of the whole picture, they're idiots. But they still have the right to vote and I can at least respect the process. I'm just tired of the "my side gets all the credit". Under Bush, attention had already shifted to Afghanistan, including the troop surge. Obama, once he got in office, stuck with the game plan and added his two cents as well. They can both claim success together. Osama's dead. The End. Let's move on.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST

    ummm So you dont know how a bussines works do you?

    by NoMotivatioN

  • May 2, 2011, 12:50 a.m. CST

    @ retroactive if anyone was wondering..... lol

    by NoMotivatioN

  • May 2, 2011, 12:50 a.m. CST

    What's the last thing that went through Osama's head before he died?

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    A 9mm bullet! Woohoo!!! USA!!! USA!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST

    A pic of dead bin laden

    by Robert

    http://pikchur.com/Af0J

  • May 2, 2011, 12:52 a.m. CST

    AMERICAAA FUCK YEAH!

    by Dogmatic

    COME TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKIN DAY YEAH!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 12:52 a.m. CST

    US Navy Seals!!......

    by BlackBriar

    All happen around 12:30 A.M.. True Ghosts they never expected a thing

  • May 2, 2011, 12:53 a.m. CST

    OBAMA GETS OSAMA-suck it up retro

    by Carl's hat

    It was the right wingers who criticized Obama for being weak. Now Obama has given the orders and Bin Laden is dead, you and all the posters on the FOXnews site want to move on. Par for the course.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:55 a.m. CST

    I'd be surprised if we ever meet the 'heroes'

    by oisin5199

    they're gonna keep that shit secret for their protection, I hope. But you know they're slapping high fives with their buddies.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Would have been awesome as a Cap movie promo!!

    by Dogmatic

    Imagine if the US Military had a deal with Marvel to let them be first to know before they went ahead with the op and imagine if the video gets released tomorrow and it was Chris Evans in full Cap gear leading the team in with his shield taking the initial fire and then the SEAL guys capping everyone from behind him.....Captain America: The First Avenger then passes Avatar by DOUBLE to become the highest grossing film ever hahahhahaa

  • May 2, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST

    right now there are a couple of operators

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    in a debriefing room arguing over which of them shot him first.<P> Soldiers will be getting laid for years over this story, that's for sure!

  • May 2, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST

    too bad the real 9/11 mastermind,

    by goodguy

    Dick Cheney, is at home, free as a bird, torturing homeless vets in his dungeon and drinking babies blood.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Now who's going to be the boogyman.....

    by F-18

    ...that we're told we have to give up our civil liberties to protect ourselves from?

  • May 2, 2011, 1:01 a.m. CST

    now keep the Chinese Chinese in Red Dawn dammit

    by DrPain

  • May 2, 2011, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Busy

    by rbottoms

    Hey birther shitheads, seen this image yet? It's Obama with the caption: "Sorry it took so long to get you a copy of my birth certificate. I was busy killing Osama Bin Laden." The long form version includes, "Eat shit, birther assholes."

  • while I understand it's to make him more neutral, the fact that something almost 10 years in the making finally happens and Superman is technically not one of "us" when it happens makes him more, ahem, alien.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Spooks and Seal Team 6 bitches!

    by Badger23

    FUCK. YES.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST

    CIA along with the 40 Navy Seals....

    by BlackBriar

    masterminded this whole operation..... Good Job Men.

  • "They can both claim success together. Osama's dead. The End. Let's move on." Nope Obama can claim success as can the Navy seals who did the dirty work. Bush can claim Sadaam's head and nothing else. Bush has been out of office for 3 years and had nothing to do with this. He had 8 years to get Osama and failed. Now we can move on.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:09 a.m. CST

    Obama succeded because

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    he continued the ground work that was laid after 9/11. The Patriot act is still in effect, we are still in Iraq, Guantanimo is still open, etc, etc, etc. Obama was smart to keep things going.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:10 a.m. CST

    i'm horny

    by HornyForHarry

    from that cum statement harry made

  • May 2, 2011, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Johnston's "jingoistic flag waver" remark...

    by James Westfall

    ... he's probably hating that about right now.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Hey fatso rancor...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    The military did it...under the same call for Osama's head over eight years. This is a VICTORY for AMERICA -- not for Obama, Bush or a political party. I just wish that I had the opportunity to pull the trigger. :-P

  • May 2, 2011, 1:11 a.m. CST

    DC looks real stupid right now....

    by BlackBriar

    Superman will always stand Truth,Justice and the American Way.. DAMNIT!!

  • Crowds gathered in New York and outside the White House. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/01/osama-bin-laden-dead-killed_n_856091.html

  • May 2, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    iwasinjuniorhighdickhead

    by Juggernaut125

  • May 2, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    iwasinjuniorhighdickhead

    by Juggernaut125

    Don't be ridiculous. EVERYBODY knows HAN shot first.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    "It is a historic moment in history"

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    And you're a fat fatass.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:16 a.m. CST

    So does this mean Planet Terror can happen now?

    by Brandon Gable

    Because we all know Bruce Willis killed Bin Laden.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:18 a.m. CST

    cant believe i first heard of this

    by JAMF

    from harry knowles.... i thought he was saying that captain america would kill osama in the film or something... everyone knows osama was a stooge anyway, an actor like john gilnitz in the x-files.

  • Yeah, not fucking likely, Harry. This was a Black Op mission, and we will never know their names, for their own safety and the safety of their families. They deserve all the medals, statues, parades, etc. in the world, and are true heroes and patriots, but to release their identities would be completely insane.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:20 a.m. CST

    Jack Bauer killed Osama

    by jules windex

    We all know this

  • May 2, 2011, 1:20 a.m. CST

    I laugh at you people that think Obama did this, people like halfbreedqueen

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    Like Obama was the homie sticking out the side of that speeding car with a sideways-held gun that did a drive-by at Osama's crib.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:20 a.m. CST

    Morgan Spurlock will have to do a sequel now

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • May 2, 2011, 1:21 a.m. CST

    and I think South Park will have something to say

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • May 2, 2011, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Chuck Norris and the Delta Force!

    by DrPain

    Delta being his left hand and Force being his right of course :)

  • May 2, 2011, 1:27 a.m. CST

    GOD BLESS AMERICA & OUR ARMED FORCES!!!!!!

    by Thanos0145

    As someone who lives in the NYC metro area, this is GREAT NEWS!

  • May 2, 2011, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Racist tea bagger sierratangofoxtrotuniform

    by Robert

    Go kill yourself.

  • Give Obama Bush's salary, fuck. Fake ass cowboy.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Bad news for Obama

    by paulloch

    Donald Trump and Fox News are challenging the death certificate. (Don't put it past Roger Ailes) "How do WE know he's really dead."

  • Something we can all rally around tonight. No matter the politics.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:44 a.m. CST

    "He's DEAD! USA! USA!" and all that, but...

    by pw

    "He's DEAD! USA! USA!" and all that, but was there no attempt to capture Binny Laden and put him on trial? Even his scapegoat, dirty santa Saddam got that. Just saying.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:45 a.m. CST

    9/11 was an inside job

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Infowars.com

  • May 2, 2011, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Now why the fuck didn't they send in special forces

    by Dennis_Moore

    after him in the first place? Oh, yeah, no sweet deal for the MIC and Oil...

  • May 2, 2011, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Bin Laden a CIA Operative

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    http://tinyurl.com/3crn3h5

  • May 2, 2011, 1:51 a.m. CST

    America Fuck Yeah

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Excuse me while I take a nap. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • May 2, 2011, 1:52 a.m. CST

    The problem is though

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Yes Obama was a symbol and it was a great thing that he's dead, and I give credit to Obama's hand in this because he followed the same foundation that was set up right after 9/11. The Troops that did this are heroes without a doubt and this is cause for celebration. Problem is though is that another dirtbag will just pop up in his place. But having said that the only real way to keep us safe is to continue fighting as this nasty weed of terrorism and not let up, to keep building on the post 9/11 foundation and to "Never Forget".

  • May 2, 2011, 1:52 a.m. CST

    er, special forces have always been after him

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    check out operation Jawbreaker, that was years ago. They had him at one point but the go was never given and he left.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:53 a.m. CST

    I WON'T BELIEVE BIN LADEN IS DEAD UNTIL I SEE THE LONG FORM BODY

    by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST

    Just kidding! Word! God bless America!

  • May 2, 2011, 1:53 a.m. CST

    room23 - patriot act is a joke

    by Robert

    An unfunny civil liberty limiting joke - but a joke still.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:54 a.m. CST

    junior high

    by Robert

    Yep thank Bush for that. Read all about jawbreaker and how they never got the troops to back them up like they asked for.

  • ...getting rid of iconic evil b)the president realizing his approval is very low and needing to finally get rid of obl c)no one will care past the 10 year anniversary of 911 d) the start of retaliation or e) some other definition, either good or bad for America, that has yet to be decided.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:56 a.m. CST

    THE ROCK'S BIRTHDAY AND BOY DID HE HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND

    by Meadowe

    Have arguably his biggest opening and obl getting obl-iterated hee hee.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:56 a.m. CST

    I was a G.I. in D.C on 9/11

    by Creative1

    A couple of guys that were killed in the Pentagon lived in my Apartment building in Arlington VA. I can't express how elated I am to know that bastard is DEAD. 2012 is pretty much a lock for Obama now.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:59 a.m. CST

    I think it was the Expendables that did this op!

    by Dogmatic

    And Terry Crews delivered the kill shot to Osama after yelling "Remember that shit at Christmas!"

  • May 2, 2011, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Bin Laden's last words: "Don't Tase Me, Bro!!!"

    by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST

  • May 2, 2011, 2:06 a.m. CST

    ccchhhrrriiisssm

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    "The military did it...under the same call for Osama's head over eight years. This is a VICTORY for AMERICA -- not for Obama, Bush or a political party." I already credited the military and specifically the seals who did it. But Obama deserves praise too and fuck anyone who thinks otherwise.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:07 a.m. CST

    cracking up at some of the celebration footage

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    this guy appears on some of those spring stilts and is bouncing round all joyous. He's going to end up on South Park

  • May 2, 2011, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Yeehaw!!

    by SHWIGGINSTEIN

    Nothing says freedom and democracy like good old fashioned bloodlust-inspired hysteria.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:11 a.m. CST

    This saddens me

    by chuckmoose

    I am an American, and I feel almost as sad watching US college kids get drunk and party over the killing of someone as it made me feel watching muslim children dancing in the streets the on 9-11. These actions may be necessary to protect freedom around the world, but it isn't a cause for celebration.

  • Collecting data, waiting patiently for the right moment, going in with the minimum amount of anarchy doing the job right. The system worked. Our system worked. For once. Incredible.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Frightened?

    by MoffatBabies

    Phht. Today was a great day for "unbelievers" and apostates everywhere. I hope he was killed by an atheist homosexual.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:16 a.m. CST

    chuckmoose

    by SHWIGGINSTEIN

    I hear you man. It's a surreal parallel for sure. Unsettling...But very interesting.

  • That would be bad ass!

  • May 2, 2011, 2:17 a.m. CST

    And I'm sorry, as much as I typically do NOT

    by MoffatBabies

    appreciate crowds celebrating any death, this fucker took the cake and deserved much worse than he received. Even if he'd failed 9-11. History has seen a lot of blatant, pure hate. But none as blatant and pure as the hate that spews from the mouths of those who support extremist muslims. This is our day, and I'll be damned if I'm not going to celebrate.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Theo Van Gogh called from paradise.

    by MoffatBabies

    He's fucking your virgins, bitch.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:19 a.m. CST

    chuckmoose read

    by Proman1984

    I understand where you are coming from. I do think that maybe there is difference between celebrating the killing and celebrating the fact that someone horrible is gone. There has to be a line there. However, I too sense that too many are indulging in visceral wankoff without really understanding why what happened is important. That's not really any different from what happens any day on the internet sadly.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:20 a.m. CST

    I just came from Ground Zero...

    by mullymt

    And there was a guy dressed up as Captain America there. It was pretty cool.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:20 a.m. CST

    No fuck that

    by MoffatBabies

    I hope he was killed by an atheist homosexual that volunteers at a women's shelter.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:20 a.m. CST

    Also, Harry Knowles is a terrible human being

    by Proman1984

    Opportunistic dumbass scum.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:20 a.m. CST

    Everyone knows Sensei Seagal was instrumental in this.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • May 2, 2011, 2:21 a.m. CST

    The only thing visceral about my reaction

    by MoffatBabies

    is how deeply and completely I've thought it through.

  • and both announced at 2230 hours http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/1/newsid_3571000/3571497.stm In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. -Franklin D. Roosevelt

  • May 2, 2011, 2:22 a.m. CST

    yea all across the web theres lots of people.......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    .......just pissing in the punchbowl over the fact that people are partying. as if we all don't know of certain realities and that dangers still exist.....and that all is still not well the world..........but cot damn this is simply a cause for celebration not a time to piss and moan. give us one night you fucking debbie downers

  • May 2, 2011, 2:22 a.m. CST

    by batfunk

    I agree with damn_dirty_ape. Harry, you really need to read more. Check out a few decent newspapers and maybe some history books. Your reaction is just a tad immature and ignorant.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:25 a.m. CST

    The Hydra has many heads but it's heart is wounded.

    by Gabba-UK

    Let us not be complacent but this is a major blow to those who's views include the death of innocents as legitimate. You can run but eventually we'll get you. Just ironic that he was found in a mansion in a country we haven't invaded. Justice has been done.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:27 a.m. CST

    I'm sorry...

    by GroolDemon

    that it took me so long to get my birth certificate out to you all. I was too busy killing Osama Bin Laden. -Barack Obama

  • May 2, 2011, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Debbie Downers?

    by MoffatBabies

    More like fucking liars. Anyone here acting as if they are observing this from a cool distance is lying to us and to themselves. This isn't a "you're with us or you're against us" thing. This is a fucker that was taken down. A symbolic fucker that stood against everything you believe in or stand for, all while using the best of our values against us (look at how extremists have catered to some aspects of liberalism in the UK, successfully). Clear your head and come back with a party favor. We'll wait. And I'm a bleeding heart fucking liberal. Born and bred. Get your heads on straight. There's nothing good about tolerating intolerance.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:27 a.m. CST

    The only enemy of the USA left is Justin Bieber

    by Mel

  • May 2, 2011, 2:28 a.m. CST

    grooldemon LOL!!

    by MoffatBabies

    Good one.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:30 a.m. CST

    moffatbabies

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    amen brutha!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 2:33 a.m. CST

    MEH...

    by johnnyrandom

    ...who cares? Killing one man will change nothing at all.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:33 a.m. CST

    While the UK was playing kings & queens...(sigh)

    by RobinP

    Weekend events: While the UK ground to a halt and dressed up for a fancy dress tea party, spending multiple millions of public money on security for the wedding of a wealthy, privileged but ultimately worthless couple, America removed a bastion of evil from the face of the Earth and sent him head first to hell. As the song goes...."America, Fuck Yeah"!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Bin Laden's been dead for years

    by samurai_montana

    He died not long after 9/11, kidney failure. It was even reported in some media circles at the time, but the idea of him still being alive is more valuable to the US in terms of propoganda and as a viable reason to continue occupancy. He WAS a CIA operative. This is clearly being reported to secure Obomination his second term and to drum up more patriotism. How anyone can be manipulated into thinking war is a positive engagement by ANYONE is beyond me. Soldiers are people's family members that are sacrificed for corporate profit. Wake up people

  • May 2, 2011, 2:36 a.m. CST

    UK ground to a halt?!

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    Here in Wales, if you didn't have the tv on you wouldn't have known!

  • May 2, 2011, 2:40 a.m. CST

    Don't compare Hitler to Osama

    by alexander

    dumbass

  • May 2, 2011, 2:41 a.m. CST

    About as appropraite as comparing Jesus to Bin Laden

    by alexander

    just don't bother being a simpleton

  • May 2, 2011, 2:43 a.m. CST

    AP reporting that he's been already buried at sea..

    by Gabba-UK

    and in full compliance with Muslim tradition. Nice to see the US taking the moral high ground by respecting the traditions of an enemy. Not the actions of a 'Great Satan'.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Death Before Dishonor.

    by Keith Maniac

    Since i read about Bin Laden's alleged death, i cant get the image out of my head of Fred Dryer's character in that movie being responsible for it. I'm not sure what that says about me......actually i think i do know what that says about me.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Al Qaeda Is NOT Nazi Germany

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    As good as this news is, I hope people remember that we weren't fighting one individual. Al Qaeda won't die now that Bin Laden is dead. The war doesn't just stop. In some ways, this will get worse now. Al Qaeda is like a hydra. Bin Laden is dead and someone else will take his place, and they WILL want revenge for this. America (and its allies) will want to up its threat level like crazy because there will be a response to this and, if America isn't ready, that response will be awful. Personally, I'm a bit scared about what might come next.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:49 a.m. CST

    he's been buried at sea, just like Megatron

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • May 2, 2011, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Do NOT confuse celebration with a

    by MoffatBabies

    COMPLETE disconnect from reality. Of COURSE terrorism isn't going to stop. ahg! The assumptions people make blow my mind.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Osama bin Laden- The four trillion dollar man

    by hallmitchell

    That's how much he wiped out of Soviet and USA economies. A man with a $50 million dollar price tag on his head. A man whose private army declared war on the USA. Ten long years! And please conspiracy theorists. Do you really think gov't is that clever?

  • May 2, 2011, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Wikileaks document on death of Bin Laden

    by hallmitchell

    1. A terrorist group will let go a dirty bomb in Europe. 2. A terrorist group will crash a plane inside a Heathrow, UK terminal. That was the plan anyway.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:58 a.m. CST

    Osama

    by Spock

    Osama bin Laden's dead. pigs are gnawing his body 24/7 in hell, for all eternity.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:58 a.m. CST

    samurai_montana

    by Robert

    Kill yourself. Don't breed. Please.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:59 a.m. CST

    It's braindrain with some words of wisdom!

    by pw

    This should be good...*sigh

  • May 2, 2011, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Occasionally I forgot how dumb the average american is...

    by AngelinasOilBoy

    Then I read a thread like this and I remember.... *facepalms*

  • If anything this will make Captain America even less likely to make any money this year as its as propaganda a US superhero as it can get already. riding on the back of this just makes all those countries that hate America even less likely to watch it and have you guys rub their noses in it!

  • May 2, 2011, 3:12 a.m. CST

    First Saddam, then Osama...

    by Geoff Clingan

    Geez, the South Park writers have lost a lost of material lately. Good thing Steve Jobs is still alive, Obama is an immigrant and Donald Trump is a douche.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Depicting and estroying the boogeyman...

    by justmyluck

    ... is fundamental in allowing America to unleash the most WMDs and occupations than any other nation in the world. News stories such as these are huge gifts to the government sociopaths who sent more Americans to their death in Iraq and Afghanistan - AFTER 911 - than OBL supposedly ever killed in the WTC attacks. The propaganda of comic book heroes is more important than ever. Google "Tim Osman" and, if you still believe this Pentagon press release B.S. well...back to AMERICAN IDOL and FEAR FACTOR you go. http://www.google.com/search?q=tim+osman Boo ya, hoo ra, kill the devil and become our next generation's cannon fodder, please!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 3:20 a.m. CST

    erp... "destroying"

    by justmyluck

  • May 2, 2011, 3:21 a.m. CST

    What the pussy President Gay Cowboy couldn't, President Shaft did

    by AsimovLives

    What that gay cowboy President Georgie Dumbya Bushie couldn't do, despiste all his brokenback gay cowboy bravado, President Shaft Obama did. Because like Shaft, he's the man who is there for his brother man. Obama? WE HE CAN DO! Take that, gay coboys who ovted for Dumbia Bushie. If you need the job done, go for the brother. President Shaft, yeah!

  • May 2, 2011, 3:24 a.m. CST

    "and will soon see the end of the terrorists"

    by AsimovLives

    Reality os not like in the movies where if you kill the bad guy all the problems and worries immediatly die away.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:25 a.m. CST

    robinp

    by Baryonyx

    What are you f**king yapping about? So the UK had a royal wedding on the weekend - so what? Don't you think that the SAS and UK intelligence agencies have done their bit over the years to try and help hunt down Osama? What you should be asking is this: why was Osama living, unmolested, right next to a Pakistani military camp?

  • May 2, 2011, 3:25 a.m. CST

    America has a POWERFUL NEW WEAPON-

    by PvtTOUCH

    The support of the American People, not to mention the world. I've read some pessimists say "this changes nothing, someone will take his place" "terrorists will retaliate, it will get worse" etc... That might be so, but if a bomb goes off in a subway anytime soon you better believe USA & Friends will kick some fucking ass, and it will be justified and supported the world over. Let's not forget Europe and India have had their share of terrorism, and they want justice. Osama bin Laden and the failure to capture him represented the terrorists greatest strength: FEAR. Fear that the sonofabitch was alive, was never getting caught, and was gonna plan some shit at anytime anywhere. Nobody would admit it but for awhile Bin Laden won. The economy was fucked, everybody hated the USA and patriotism was on life support. Thats what the terrorists wanted and got, no matter their physical loses. Tonight was THE momentum shift. Patriotism has gotten a shot of adrenaline, and Americans are proud to claim their country again. Iraq is in the past. We our learning from our mistakes and have been rewarded that persistence with Bin Laden's head. I pray to God there's never another attack. That soldiers won't have to fight and civilians on both sides die. But should Al Qaeda be foolish to step foot on our soil again I'm confident America and our Allies, with the people as our backbone, will wipe every one of those jihadist bastards off the face of the earth.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Osama went out better than Hitler

    by happyboy

    According to reports Osama went out battling superior forces with a gun in his hand. Harry you're awesome. Let's all dance in the streets about killing a man. IT'S OKAY HE'S ARAB.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:29 a.m. CST

    I don't think Obongo went over there personally...

    by ReportAbuse

    ...to kill OBL single handedly. I think the deed was done by the same military people working under Bush too. Unless we hear different.

  • ...what with him getting the James Bond treatment. However, the real architect of 9-11, Richard Holbrooke, died of a heart attack last year before being conveniently 'buried at sea'. Come on Parker and Stone... you're at a conspiracy theorists All You Can Eat.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:40 a.m. CST

    I have to say, once I learned that Osama was dead

    by elgato73

    I fucking wanted to see CAPTAIN AMERICA. Hell, MARVEL would do themselves a big fucking favor to roll out Cap NOW, not July. NOW! The film has got to be on the cusp of being done. If not, do what Bay and Co. did and hire more efx/cg visual artists and get the fucking thing done. With that bastard dead and the patriotic fervor sweeping this country, bring out Cap for the masses. As a DC fan, I want to cut Dan Didio's balls off right now for that bloody Superman story and Superman renouncing his fucking American citizenship. Yeah, I guess I'm caught up in the fervor too but shit. Bad fucking move DC. Bad fucking timing as usual. You guys are always getting your asses handed to you because of bad decisions. Well, history just proved you made the biggest misstep of all time with your biggest character. Siegel and Shuster must be rolling in their graves.

  • That's a verifiable fact. He got this ball rolling. Whereas Bush kind of threw up his hands and said "meh..." and let OBL cross into Pakistan unmolested. He then quickly turned his attention to Iraq, a country which was turned into an old west gold rush prospectors town by Dick Cheney and his cronies. Iraq is now a rich capitalist's wet dream. Obama shifted the focus to where it belonged. Afghanistan and OBL. True, these men and women served under both presidents most likely, and deserve our gratitude, but Obama got the ball rolling and pulled the trigger on this mission. Credit where credit is due, douchebags.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:42 a.m. CST

    You have to hand it to Mobama...

    by workshed

    ...he took out OBL, Gadaffi and Donald Trump in one day. Damn it he's good. This just won him the next election.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:42 a.m. CST

    The typo from hell for MSNBC reporter ...

    by ReportAbuse

    Typo: MSNBC correspondent accidentally tweets that ‘Obama’ killed http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/02/typo-msnbc-correspondent-accidentally-reports-on-twitter-that-obama-killed/

  • May 2, 2011, 3:45 a.m. CST

    This is better than any viral Marvel could hope for!!!!

    by billyhitchcock1

    Free hysteria. America! Fuck Yeah! not.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Credit where it's due.

    by JonRD463

    Congratulations, President Obama. You did good. Now fix the fucking economy or GTFO.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Brody Bruce...

    by workshed

    ...I said exactly the same thing to the missis - Bruce did it. Fuck Yeah!

  • May 2, 2011, 3:51 a.m. CST

    I would like to correct one huge inaccuracy

    by emeraldboy

    bin laden did not lead Al aqueada. and never did. that was al zwhari. the egyptian born former chemistry teacher turned radical islamic cleric. He used bin laden's money to fund terrorist attacks. but even then al zwarahi didnt set up al queada, that was another guy who used a series of aliases and had a major falling out with alzwarahi and has subsequently cut his ties with alqueada.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Best. Shill. Headline. Ever.

    by palimpsest

  • May 2, 2011, 4:03 a.m. CST

    when you come to ireland next week mr obama..

    by emeraldboy

    please help us to rid our country of our terrorist threat before they carry their threat to kill the queen.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:09 a.m. CST

    "America is the greatest nation n the world"

    by AsimovLives

    That's the type of shit that makes america still disliked even by it's allies. Ther eis no such thing as the greatest country in the world, no matter what type of jingoist bullshit one choses to believe. If by greatest one would go for the Human Development index, then Denmark would be the gereatest country in the world. It'sd about USA also relaises they are not alone in the world, we are all a big family, and nobody likes the burly uncle who thinks he's the best of them all just because once he was a star athlet.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:16 a.m. CST

    BinLaden does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    This news is cause for a grim nod but not for partying. The dojo does not celebrate death, even of those who appear to deserve it.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:18 a.m. CST

    Buried at sea...

    by torpor_haze

    hope they know that didn't work well with Megatron

  • May 2, 2011, 4:18 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "It'sd about USA also relaises they are not alone in the world, we are all a big family, and nobody likes the burly uncle who thinks he's the best of them all just because once he was a star athlet." Asi, it's better than the creepy uncle who wants to kiddie fiddle his nephew. I'M LOOKING AT YOU LATVIA!

  • May 2, 2011, 4:19 a.m. CST

    Obama manages to kill a figurehead

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    and we should get psyched to see Captain America? If Obama ate nothing but White Castle burgers would we then need to get psyched whenever they put something new on the menu? Not condoning terrorism, etc. but there's no way this isn't going to go without some kind of concentrated retaliation, most likely with the unveiling of a new face to plaster everywhere until they can condition the public to automatically associate it with scorn. US military approach = "It's a game of dominoes, we knock down this guy and the whole network will follow". Because we all saw how well that worked with Hussein, right?

  • just playin America...I look forward to seeing Kat big rack from 40 yr old virgin playing a nerd in this fliq.

  • We have to stop fucking about in other country's cultures and political colors. We only do this to grab land and oil. We're in the pocket of the oil companies. Our troops - and human life in general is worth more than any of this shit. We're just keeping the ultra rich, rich. They don't give a fart about the average person - anywhere - in the world. Burn all flags!

  • May 2, 2011, 4:27 a.m. CST

    What the hell does Captain America have to do with this??

    by darthderp

    I'm sorry, Harry, but while putting up a talkback for us to comment on this bit of HISTORY is wonderful, trying to throw Marvel a bone by tying in their would-be success with this - what the REAL HEROES have done, is a bit crass. You really think a fictional character is going to outshine, or eclipse, to use your words, our men and women overseas? "I'm betting on Marvel on this." Uh-uh, Headgeek. I don't think so.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:33 a.m. CST

    Pat Tillman tribute.

    by hallmitchell

    A man who didn't ask for thanks. A man who could of stayed put in the USA making big money playing NFL. A man outraged by 9/11. A man who went to Afghanistan and got shot in the head by his own side.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:39 a.m. CST

    Assimovlives is a effeminite leftie...

    by Sicuv Uyall

    Thanks for pissing on everyone's parade. But then again, it's what we expected from you.

  • See the video here http://tinyurl.com/3mfcsax After this interview, she was killed. And now they are saying his body was buried at sea so they aren't even bringing a body back. So lets see what happened this week. He released a fake Birth certificate where they forgot to flatten the Photoshop layers and millions of Photoshop guys found it. His dad is listed as 25 on it when he was 27. It lists Kenya as his Dad's birthplace in 1961 when Kenya was not Kenya until 1963. in 1961 it was called British East Africa Protectorate. Every other Hawaiian Birth cert that has been issued a copy of from Hawaii looks completely different than his. The type is centered. And yes, it was a photoshop file where the text was resized and sharpened and not the green background. This is not what happens when you scan in a colored document on color settings, not even in OCR. And now, a few days later after that, Osama is killed, but hey, the body has already been buried at sea and we don't have to show proof. GREATEST SCAM EVER! If you people are buying this dog and pony show, then I feel sorry for ya

  • May 2, 2011, 4:42 a.m. CST

    "Let this be a lesson for anyone that wants to target America."

    by buggerbugger

    Yes, because if there's anything an idealist truly fears, it's being killed in the name of their cause and becoming a martyr to it. Yeah, that'll teach those fucking idealists, it'll teach them real good!

  • May 2, 2011, 4:44 a.m. CST

    sithmenace_returns

    by Sicuv Uyall

    Just remember that when American civilians die, there are public celebrations "over there." People here are celebrating the death of the one man who started this whole mess in the first place.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:46 a.m. CST

    Let's celebrate. Zucchini Pancakes + Death = Yum Yums

    by Roger Moon

    Ingredients * 4 eggs * 2 cups grated zucchini * 3/4 cup all-purpose flour * 1/2 teaspoon white sugar * 1/2 teaspoon salt * 3 tablespoons olive oil * 4 teaspoons baking powder * 1/4 cup butter, melted Directions 1. Preheat grill to 425 to 450 degrees F (220 to 225 degrees C). 2. In a large mixing bowl, beat eggs, add shredded zucchini and mix well using a fork. Add flour, sugar, salt and vegetable oil and stir to blend well. Finally, add baking powder and mix well using a large spoon. The batter's consistency should be like heavy whipping cream. 3. Spoon batter on hot grill (about 2 tablespoons) for each pancake. Cook until there are no longer bubbles forming in the pancake about 2 minutes; turn over and cook for 2 minutes longer. Rub pancakes with melted butter and serve immediately.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:49 a.m. CST

    go and see bloody sunday...

    by emeraldboy

    that was and remains british worse modern military blunder. the paras went in and shot dead 14 innocent civilians. this gave new life to the provisional ira who spent the next 35 years killing men. women and children as did the repugnant loyalist terrorists. but the provos killed more people. it took untill the 1990's for our troubles, our conflict in the north, europe's oldest and most intractable problem to end in that sham of deal signed by blair and ahern. to qoute the former leader of the ira, Gerry Adams, the dissidents, havent gone away you know. these groups are not and do not have the capability nor the support of the ira, but they still manage to kill police officers, army men, plant bombs and car bombs. and last week these thugs in military uniforms have threatened to kill queen. and police officers. terrorism doesnt stop. terrorists use history and warp it to suit their ends. al queada were created in the end of the cold war, the cia went in trained up some mujahadean figthers and abandoned them and one of those was osama bin laden. one more thing. gadaffi helped fund the ira and other terrorist groups. us should have taken him out a long time. ago. the provos used the british occupation to fund thier war. and that fat oafs on capital hill in the irish american loby supported all that. untill america was attacked on 9/11. one of the strongest supporters of the peace process was peter king. who lost his marbles and started attacking muslims.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Well, at least Michael Bay knows what his next project's going to be

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    Typically Harry, he hears Osama Bin Laden is killed and immediately thinks about how it affects a comic book character.

  • No, let's wait until they wipe out the monarchy, thanks. Fucking leeching, horse-faced scumbags. They should all be lined up, shot in the back of the neck and given a helpful and hearty kick into a shallow, roadside ditch.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Pakistan

    by Ernie

    So after invading Afghanistan and Iraq we now find that Osama wasn't huddled in some dark and dank cave. He's been living in a nice house in Pakistan sixty miles away from the Capital and next door to the military academy. Forget about bombing Libya and invading Arab states. America should go after it's so-called friend and ally, Pakistan.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:05 a.m. CST

    All good and well but

    by MorganLeafy

    the movie Captain America looks so pedestrian. The trailer does nothing for me.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:12 a.m. CST

    In your face, haters!!

    by Stalkeye

    Obamaca, Fuck yeah!

  • This is where i learned that one of the primal objectives of the allied troops in Afghanisthan is the cultivation and grow of peaches. Fighting for agriculture!

  • May 2, 2011, 5:14 a.m. CST

    here is just a sample of interviews from the pakistani

    by emeraldboy

    high commissioner in london.... bbc presenter " according to all the inteligence the terrorists who carried out the mombai massacre came from pakistan, when is your govt going to crack down on terrorism" high commissioner" all the intelligence is wrong, there is no terrorism or terrorists from pakistan. our intelligence shows that these terrorists come from indian" actually the terrorists did come from pakistan who carried out the mombai massacre bbc presenter security reports suggests that pakistan has been a breathing ground for terrorists.... Pakistani high commissioner" there is no evidence to suggest this, terrorists are being created by international community continuous bombing of my country" what he is really saying there please for god sake america and britain stopping bombing living shite out of my country. when that happens terrorism will stop. but there is no terrorism in pakistan.

  • Sorry if I'm in the minority or am wasting anyone's time, but the more I think about this the more pissed I get. Let me repost something I said earlier: *I'm sorry, Harry, but while putting up a talkback for us to comment on this bit of HISTORY is wonderful, trying to throw Marvel a bone by tying in their would-be success with this - what the REAL HEROES have done, is a bit crass. You really think a fictional character is going to outshine, or eclipse, to use your words, our men and women overseas? "I'm betting on Marvel on this." Uh-uh, Headgeek. I don't think so. *

  • May 2, 2011, 5:18 a.m. CST

    Big deal...

    by ryderdvs

    This country is still in the fucking toilet. What difference does this make in the grans scheme of things? And it's not like terrorism is going to simply magically disappear now. I'm amazed at how brainwashed the American public is. "USA! USA!" Fucking sheeple.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Oh, and sierratangofoxtrotuniform please STFU

    by Stalkeye

    No one wants to hear your racist diatribe. Too bad you weren't caught in the crossfire as well. Cunt.

  • I support and like this President, but they need to produce proof to the public that they really had possession of bin Laden's body and were able to positively ID him. It's just *too convenient* that his body had to be buried within 24 hours to "respect Islamic custom" (is this true about the religion -- for all Muslim sects)?

  • May 2, 2011, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Harry, what the fuck are you talking about?

    by mus42

    Revelling in jingoism due to the death of a very nasty man doesn't really strike me as great thing. Chanting "USA, USA" over and over? well if you have a low IQ then fair enough I guess. But watching Captain America as some kind of salute to the death of Osama Bin Laden?? That would be the action of a truly stupid person. I'll be watching because I like movies, nothing more nothing less.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Harry, what the fuck are you talking about?

    by mus42

    Revelling in jingoism due to the death of a very nasty man doesn't really strike me as great thing. Chanting "USA, USA" over and over? well if you have a low IQ then fair enough I guess. But watching Captain America as some kind of salute to the death of Osama Bin Laden?? That would be the action of a truly stupid person. I'll be watching because I like movies, nothing more nothing less.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Harry, what the fuck are you talking about?

    by mus42

    Revelling in jingoism due to the death of a very nasty man doesn't really strike me as great thing. Chanting "USA, USA" over and over? well if you have a low IQ then fair enough I guess. But watching Captain America as some kind of salute to the death of Osama Bin Laden?? That would be the action of a truly stupid person. I'll be watching because I like movies, nothing more nothing less.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:33 a.m. CST

    jobacca, peaches came from the middle east.

    by AsimovLives

  • May 2, 2011, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Remember the S.O.D. song?

    by Davidhessstation

    Fuck the Middle East

  • May 2, 2011, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Reading this post made no fucking sense

    by Scrunchie-Scroochie

    Then I checked the news and yep - the witch is dead. Fucking hilarious that I first learnt of this from AICN. First time I've learnt anything from AICN to be honest.

  • You just also perfectily describe Brazil, Mexico, Canada, Australia, New Zeland, Japan and western and middle europe as well.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:47 a.m. CST

    What the fuck has this got to do with cinema?

    by masteryoda007

    I am as glad as the next guy that Bin Laden has been got but this has nothing to do with cinema and this TB comes across as very tasteless and crude.

  • to regan who brought into the whole idiotic notion of derivatives made the us banking system sound after regan, it was bush who turned greenspan. who believed everything he said. clinton did nothing to change the perception that the american economic was strong when it wasnt. then bush jnr, kept to that and so did obama. who not only kept to that but retain sommers and geitner. one woman saw all this happening, clinton gave brooksey bierne and office and staff, but because she knew all about the dangers of derivatives not only was she passed over for promotion by clinton who gave the ag's job to janet reno, but when bierne made this an issue, clinton administration cut her apart and dismantled her office and turfed her back into oblivion. she faxed a memo her white paper over to larry sommers. bierne's boss came into see a pallid brooksy bierne. bierne said that she had just received from a call from larry sommers who had 13 bankers in the room and they had read her white paper. sommers gave bierne a verbal bollocking over the phone. but worse was to follow to teach her a dont fuck with our economy lesson, she and her team dragged to capital hill where during senatorial committee, her office was systematically dismantled in front of her eyes and she was left with no alternative then to resign....

  • May 2, 2011, 5:53 a.m. CST

    Wanna kill some time? Check out Fox News forums

    by steve

    Those guys are choking on their own bile this morning. Conspiracy theories and "Obama didn't do shit" posts everywhere, very amusing. There's even people complaining about gas prices. Comedy gold, as always.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:55 a.m. CST

    But the fear of retaliation is no iddle matter

    by AsimovLives

    Specially if Al Qaeda decides to turn Bin Laden as a martyr figure, which they might just will. No, this is not over yet. This is not yet the end.

  • May 2, 2011, 6:14 a.m. CST

    what i am interested in seeing is the opinion of the wounded soldiers.

    by VonThunderballs

    i want to see how they feel about this. i mean, after all, they were the ones who fought to find this guy. and now that they have him do they get to see their brothers and sisters come home? also, it makes me sick in a way that some americans are cheering with bloodlust that osama is done. are we that uncivilized? are we stooping to the level of other countries that exhibit so much hate?

  • May 2, 2011, 6:16 a.m. CST

    tomorrow evening in ireland

    by emeraldboy

    we will have the usual piece of guff on today fm from Cal thomas. they are coming to kill us matt is cal's usual piece of muslim bashing . matt cooper is the host of the last word is a sunday times coloumist. which is a murdoch newspaper. but the last word is fair and balanced. i am sure that matt will also feature lara marlowe from the irish times. irelands paper leftist paper of record.

  • No

  • May 2, 2011, 6:20 a.m. CST

    A baying crowd chanting in patriotic bloodlust.

    by MotherPussBucket

    That ain't fucking cool news, Harry. Ok, we killed him, but now he will never answer for his crimes. What a hollow victory.

  • May 2, 2011, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Vadakinx

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Good post my friend. I can only imagine the psychological impact that 9/11 will have had on Americans having lived in a Europe thats lived with terrorist atrocities and the impact of two world wars in the last century. So a sense of euphoria over this victory is something you are fully entitled to. Just need to be careful not to be over jubilant. My stomach normally turns when I see "idiotic" people screaming in the streets over their country or latest piece of flag burning and I was disappointed to see this happening in Amrica last night. America and to an extent the UK are seen as the Western bullyboys to a lot of the world. We won't win a lot of favour with the average thinking person if we are seen to be crowing like lunatics over the death of this twat of the first order. A dignified "well he's got his, anyone else want a go" is the way to go. Not this flag waving lunacy. Oh and Harry, its great to see whats important to you, you fuckwit.

  • May 2, 2011, 6:20 a.m. CST

    One more thing

    by kabookieslap

    Obama filed his tax returns using his Connecticut Issued Social Security number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who died in 1981. Mr Ludwigs death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone. Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. the records indicate the number was issued between 1977 and 1979, yet Obama’s earliest employment reportedly was in 1975 at a Baskin-Robbins ice-cream shop in Oahu, Hawaii.

  • May 2, 2011, 6:28 a.m. CST

    when those soldiers come back from combat operations..

    by emeraldboy

    wounded, delimbed, suffering from post traumatic stress, they will end up on the scrap heap. where they will commit suicide or be forgotten about. they will not be entitled to anything and they will be ignored. there were brave irish men who went to fight in both world war one and world war two, some were celebrated as hero's but because it was seen that they fought along side the british, they were spat at, but they were ignored. but thankfully, the irish nation has erected a war memorial in island bridge and the queen will visit that she arrives. in a few weeks. and its not quite true to say that ireland was not involved in the second world war. england is our trading partner and brits builts sub marine bases of the coast of cork and elsewhere. and after the war, some german soldiers even became members of fianna fail.

  • Starring Ryan Seacrest as Shaft.

  • Let that statement sink in, you Rightwingers, Teabaggers, and Neo-con scum! You can't say that Barack Obama is a weak president now, because the Rightwing President Bushit had 7 years to kill Osama, and couldn't do it. President Obama did the job in two. Osama Bin Laden is dead, and it was under the order of President Obama.

  • May 2, 2011, 6:55 a.m. CST

    henry coopper...

    by emeraldboy

    british boxing legend has died aged 76. bin laden hasnt gotten off so lightly. a few rounds with enry will sort him out....

  • Not all Jack Kirby concepts were genius.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Fox News is Almost as Bad...

    by The Dreaded Rear Admiral

    "Dozens of people around the White House"... You'd think there was funeral going on there. No celebrating at ALL in their newsroom. Kinda hilarious in it's own way!

  • May 2, 2011, 7:15 a.m. CST

    It's only a movie

    by Petrol

    Killing Obama, I mean Osama in a Hollywood movie would probably sound more real than what they are showing today. More American war propaganda. 70 years and counting...

  • May 2, 2011, 7:15 a.m. CST

    OSL/Cap correlation

    by Colin Dent

    Harry, I have just realized that 'Movie Night' at Casa Knowles actually means 'Mexican Truffles Night' because you have got to be shrooming to make this connection man! That being said, it'll probably make Cap the Movie of Choice for that non-fanboy redneck demographic simply because it has the word America in the title. (Though I suspect that would apply regardless of OSL's take out.) The world's a better place without the deluded fucking sphincter though.

  • You know, I don't get it. George Lucas announces he's tinkering with Star Wars and everyone's up in arms about it. Harry tries to link the success of a movie that he's admitted all but having a hard-on for about a superhero - whose glory days have gone the way of 8 tracks and Betamax - to this historic event. And other than a handful of replies, no one seems to care?!? Forget Harry's values; WHERE ARE YOURS, PEOPLE?? Look, I personally know people who have fought over there, and through God's Sweet Grace, they've come back safe, sound, and in one peace. So many haven't. To suggest or imply that a fucking movie would, could, and should take advantage of the patriotic fever that I'm sure this country is in now is at best crass, at worst, an insult to anyone who fought, bled, and died over there. You know what, fine. I'll be the Troll For The Day. I hope this movie tanks so hard that Uwe Boll says, "Damn, those numbers suck." I hope every project that Marvel has hinging on this sinks harder than the Titanic. And I hope Harry has the balls to come out - NOT IN A REPLY BUT IN A SEPARATE THREAD - and say, "You know what, I was talking out of my ass. I'm sorry." And if this gets me banned, so be it; it was nice talking to you all. God Bless America! THUS SPAKE MOVIENUT!!

  • May 2, 2011, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Will killing Osama Bin Laden make THE DEVIL'S DOUBLE the film to beat this summer?

    by Inexplicable_Nuclear_Balls

    'Cause, ya know, it's about a guy like that and stuff.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Obama gets credit because he kept this shit going

    by Terrence

    He could have just been all, "we ain't gonna find him, just let it go." But he kept the operation active even when most other people would have felt it was fruitless.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Terrible take, Harry

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    "The question is, how will this affect film grosses?"

  • May 2, 2011, 7:38 a.m. CST

    How many times has this guy been killed?

    by asojax

    I could be wrong but haven't they been reporting on Osama Bin Laden having been killed at least 3 other times before now? For at least the last 5 years I've personally thought he was dead, and there hasn't been any news to counter that belief until now, so i guess i'm a little confused by whether this is real news or just a president trying to get his ratings improved. I don't think Osama Bin Laden has been a huge factor in all the issues going on with Al Qaeda within the last 5 years to my knowledge. On a side note of all the things harry could have started a talk back about concerning the "Death of Osama Bin Laden" it has to be about Captain America, How stupid can one person be. You want to start a talk back about Troops killing osama then make it about what's happened in the news, otherwise talk about the movie and not something news worthy.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Harry my hero!

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    So many harsh words here, go easy on the big guy. Harry! If I could muster just 1% of your movie enthusiasm I would be a happier guy! Love your outlook on (movie)life, keep it up! I think I'm learning tho, in my early days on AICN I was much more of a "hater", I think/hope your headgeekness is contagious.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:44 a.m. CST

    "..but is Ra's Al Guhl immortal?"

    by moviemaven83

    Just you wait-TDKR has got this shit on lock.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:45 a.m. CST

    So how long until videos or pictures are leaked

    by elsewhere

    surely videos or pictures were taken of his corpse. 10 years is a long time to be chasing this fucker down. We need some hard evidence.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:48 a.m. CST

    A group of badass Navy Seals killed Osama not duche Bama

    by skycrapper

    Duche Bama and W. get credit eveyone gets credit. Even the dumbass at the white house with the Hulkamania shirt gets credit. (If that's not the sign of the idiocracy I don't know what is)

  • May 2, 2011, 7:53 a.m. CST

    All right; I'll back off Marvel a little bit...

    by darthderp

    ...as long as they don't link this with their movie like Harry did. If they just promote their movie as the buildup to the Avengers brouhaha then okay, never mind. If, however, they do try to capitalize on it, then yes; fuck 'em.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:55 a.m. CST

    I wonder... is he really dead?

    by Jake Pantlin

    I have no doubt that he was captured. But I do wonder if he was killed. If I was the President, I would want him alive for questioning first. Lock him up for a few months and drill him for all the info they can, and then execute him. I suspect this is what really happened. If he was still alive, and his people got wind of that, they would retaliate to try to get him back (which would of course fail, but innocents could still be injured). So it's safer for all to say he is dead. I could be wrong.. lol... but I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case.

  • AssholeLives gives ALL progressives a bad name with his self important horseshit. The Prez is a perfect example of a progressive one who gets on with the fucking job while all these whining loser conservative cunts carry on with their racist drivel.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Not only is he nearly dead....

    by cookylamoo

    He's really most sincerely dead....maybe.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Dumbest talk-back ever

    by James_Camera_On

    And on AIC, that's saying a lot. This will not have any impact on Summer BO. None. I can't believe I have to write this sentence. What is wrong with you people? This will be forgotten in a week. Gas prices are going to have a far larger impact on the 2012 elections. This will have zero impact on the world situation. People of Islamic heritage will demand revenge. Guess what, they always demand revenge for something. There will be terrorists attacks. Guess what, there always are. Iran and others will continue to work frantically on getting N-weapons. Do you think they will work even harder now? The demographics that have made Islam such a potent force aren't going to change. And while demographics is not necessarily destiny, that is the way to bet. Bill and Ted and Barack's Bogus Libyan Adventure will increasingly dominate the nation's worries (see gas prices) -- as much as liberals (you know, those wonderful anti-war, strict constitutionalist types) want to ignore it.

  • May 2, 2011, 7:58 a.m. CST

    to paraphrase a quote from Layer Cake(the book)

    by phifty2

    "Say what you want about the yanks but when one of their own gets killed they don't stop until someone's fookin crying."

  • May 2, 2011, 7:59 a.m. CST

    It's cartoon posts like this

    by Jeff England

    that makes me hate extreme liberals all the more.

  • May 2, 2011, 8:03 a.m. CST

    here is something that we in ireland find utterly hilarious

    by emeraldboy

    the man who brought about the economic collapse of the country through his inflation of the bubble, bertie ahern is now giving economic advice to the nigerians. that is priceless. loyalists terrorists killed 30 people in one day in the dublin monaghan bombings and the british helped them. they blocked, thwarted and resisted every attempt to look into what happened. the baron inquiry was held in the 1990s and even then the british govt refused to give evidence. even with the omagh the worst atrocity in the history of the troubles there british govt would not give any compensation to the victims families. they had to fight for that and there were rumours at the time about why the security services failed to act to prevent a bomb like that from getting through. there is very little justice in these cases. how states failed to prevent atrocities such as 9/11 or omagh or anything else. nobody really tackles the root causes. before 9/11. the images that were beamed around the world was of a community in northern ireland where the police were escorting children to school while the parents were pouring bile down on the heads of the kids below. if you want to end conflict you have to take down things like peace walls. but nobody has or will....

  • May 2, 2011, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Cult of personality

    by TheComedian77

    Why are people giving the credit to whomsoever happens to be President? What's all this 'Obamaca' crap (and other catchphrases)?? Is America like Stalinist Russia, where you cling to someone's image like a God? Or is it just this website? As for the credit going to Obama for some reason, going by the BBC news the operation began SIX YEARS ago. I'm not picking sides, I just don't get all this 'good for you Obama' back patting. Maybe it's because I'm not American.

  • I hope their names get released for all of us to see. That way, when they do come home, they can get the giant, mongo-sized hero's welcome they deserve. I mean, when they get off that plane, I want this nation to raise a cheer so loud the ground shakes and the heavens look down and go "What the hell?!?" Let's make it happen, people!!

  • May 2, 2011, 8:14 a.m. CST

    movienut401

    by TheComedian77

    As nice as your enthusiasm is, people like that want, and need, their annonymity. Special Forces work best that way. Whenever ex-SAS members bring books out about their old lives, photographs obscure the faces of their old comrades, alive or dead. I'm sure that's the same in the States, and there's a good reason behind it. The last thing we want is for some nut-job to make reprisals against them --- or their famillies.

  • May 2, 2011, 8:15 a.m. CST

    RIP BIN LADEN

    by BSB

    Rest In Pigblood

  • May 2, 2011, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Obama certainly came off like the Mack Daddy last night.

    by cookylamoo

    That Motherfucker is DEAD.

  • May 2, 2011, 8:19 a.m. CST

    @ thecomedian77

    by darthderp

    Good point. Let it be so, then. Still, let's give a cheer anyways, shall we?

  • May 2, 2011, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Pictures or it didn't happen...even then it must be shooped

    by Wookie_1995

    :/

  • May 2, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Wow...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...I was going to say "wait until all the conspiratards show up", but it seems they're already here -- with the notable exception of that shitbag, bringsexyback, who is at this very moment no doubt sucking up all of what Alex Jones has to say about it before showing his face here.

  • May 2, 2011, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Won't effect Captain America at all

    by Andrew Coleman

    But 24 should be back. Jack Bauer!!!

  • The statement of a complete buffoon. You know those liberal types like Obama, who do things only a little differently from those conservative types he came after?

  • Try paying your debt back to them first before you go swinging your balls you fucking idiot. You sound like that fuckwit reality 'star' richboy Trump

  • would not be happening... Suddenly conservatives are all about the rule of law and good intel You're a bit fucking late idiots.

  • May 2, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Life isn't MOVIES.

    by knowthyself

    Captain America? Really? This is your first thoughts? A fucking stupid movie?

  • May 2, 2011, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Was Osama found in one of the Bluth model homes?

    by v3d

  • May 2, 2011, 8:40 a.m. CST

    "A historical moment in history."

    by YO MOM'S GOAT

    "A historical moment in history" is to Harry's article as "Butchering of the English language on AintitCoolNews.com" is to this comment.

  • May 2, 2011, 8:41 a.m. CST

    ON A LIGHTER NOTE...Wonder what Trump is thinking right now?

    by darthderp

    Probably thinking NYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 8:45 a.m. CST

    DOCPAZUZU - SLOW ON THE TRIGGER YET AGAIN

    by BSB

    Good thing you weren't tasked with going after Bin Laden. BTW this is a moment for Americans. Fuck off.

  • May 2, 2011, 8:48 a.m. CST

    seein those idiots chanting USA, USA..

    by Righteous Brother

    Is dangerously close to seeing those idiotic muslims chanting 'God is great' after the two towers were hit.

  • May 2, 2011, 8:53 a.m. CST

    yeah, it's a big thing here in europe as well...

    by unami

    but comparing bin laden to hitler is a teeny weeny bit overstated, don't you think? the one thing that seems to scare a lot of people is this "eye for an eye" attitude. americans celebrating the hunting down and murder of a man (even if al quaida commited mass murder - he was a single man, not the decentralised network he was a symbol for) feels weird here, where even death penalty is considered cruel and primitive. so do the reports of celebratory gunshots over texas - something one usually expects to hear from citizens of afghanistan or iraq. maybe the U.S.A. are not so different from their enemies after all. also, as much as we europeans like obama, it's not as if he went there himself and pulled the trigger. if you believe some conspiracy theories and the bush-administration didn't kill bin laden (but had the opportunity to) to keep the threat alive, then it's obama's success. otherwise he was just lucky.

  • May 2, 2011, 8:57 a.m. CST

    politicizing

    by Jared

    To the TBers politicizing this thing...fuck off! Osama taking a bullet to the head transcends left and right politics. Bob Woodward, who wrote a couple books critical of the Bush administration, was on one of the morning shows saying W. deserves as much credit for this as Obama. Can't we all accept that people on both sides of the aisle deserve some accolades? The NY Times is reporting that the main intel on Osama's whereabouts came from a GITMO detainee. Thank God Obama kept the place open. Hopefully the bullshit "Guantanamo/advanced interrogation methods don't aid the war on terror" meme has been laid to rest.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Does this mean we know longer have to listen to fucking Charlie Sheen?

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    Has perspective returned, if only for a moment?

  • I mean... it's tragic that innocent people lost their lives on 9/11, and I do think this provides a bit of closure to the loss those families obviously feel to this day. But after 9/11, this country truly went into the shitter, just like Osama wanted it to. I'd even go so far as to say perhaps those people DID die for nothing... or, at the very least, they died so we could inflate another housing bubble and use them as an excuse to expand the empire and spend our fucking selves into oblivion. If things keep going the way they're going with the empire building/defense contrator welfare, inflation, the debasing of the dollar, and the further shenanigans of investment behemoths like Goldman Sachs, I just don't see how we 'won' or America is still the greatest country in the world. If anything, I feel everyone in Washington, on both sides of the aisle, will see this as another spending mandate... they're all high and happy with themselves now and probably see this as making us invincible. But make no mistake, we are a hair away from insolvency or, at the very least, having to print so much money that a loaf of bread costs $20. So that means further erosion of the middle class and a lower class that either needs to be taken care of through social welfare or we'll be seeing what the French Revolution was like first-hand. I like Obama. I think he's an intelligent guy, but I don't think anyone, Republican or Democrat, truly grasps how perilous the financial situation in this country is or is willing to take the drastic steps necessary to right it. I think that if and when the shit really does hit the fan, it will happen almost overnight... another S&P credit rating hit... a pullback on labor and investments... then furiously printing the dollar to make good until it becomes all but worthless. If anyone can give me a good reason why this scenario will not play out, I implore you, give me some good news. As it stands, we're drowning in bullshit from the MSM. Did anyone see the White House Correspondants Dinner? Get the feeling many there are out of touch with the problems of average americans? How about the self-satisfied arm candy laughing and smacking each other like, "Oh, he did NOT say that" at everything Seth Myers said? I don't know... I think it's so bad and the situation is so serious, I just don't agree with even having such an event. These people clearly are not doing their jobs in reporting the way, say, Rolling Stone did with their Goldman Sachs article or the piece on McChrystal. You can totally forget reporting like that where it matters most - on the television and the radio. People don't like to read... so I guess it's as much our fault as theirs... but what the hell can we do about it now?

  • Go America, and go SONY!!!

  • May 2, 2011, 9:07 a.m. CST

    britian thought that internment was a great idea...

    by emeraldboy

    only it was not a great idea, it kept the war between the ira and the loyalists going. the british infilitrated both sides both loyalist and republican. but it was a derry chip shop owner who instigated the peace talks and kept the whole thing quiet for thirty years.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:08 a.m. CST

    also, captain america will bomb outside the U.S.

    by unami

    nobody - except for the most dedicated marvel fans and kids under 10 - is going to watch that movie. or would you go to superhero-movie called "Captain Estonia" that takes itself more or less serious ?

  • May 2, 2011, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Bin laden= heath ledger

    by Father

    Remeber how heath ledgers death was a major contributing factor in the dark knight becoming the highest grossing movie of '08 (in north america)? Well i get a feeling that the death of bin laden will play a big part in captain america being 11's highest grossing movie in the U.S. Moral of the story? If you want your superhero movie to make big bucks, SOMEONE HAS TO FUCKING DIE! Watch your back, Joseph gordon levitt.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    "this is a moment for Americans."

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    you absolute twat.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST

    "this is a moment for Americans."

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    you absolute twat.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST

    "this is a moment for Americans."

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    you absolute twat.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST

    "this is a moment for Americans."

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    you absolute twat.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST

    The last thing Osama heard...

    by v3d

    "Loose SEAL! Loose SEAL!"

  • May 2, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST

    "this is a moment for Americans."

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    you absolute twat.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST

    robertoinfinite

    by samurai_montana

    I think a world bred from me would be a much nicer place to live than one comprised of your spawn u ignorant shit. You really believe everything the government tells you through their media? That Bin Laden orchestrated the 9/11 attacks? It WAS an inside job, and once u come to terms with that, you'll wake up and see the real world. Had any relatives die needlessly for this false war on terror?

  • May 2, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    @tenenbaum - yeah, the end justifies the means,

    by unami

    let's just torture a bunch of innocents and not-so-innocents over 10 years, circumvent the U.S. constitution and go to war just to kill one man. the sad thing is: bin laden reached his goal of seeding fear and mistrust among americans (or will the TSA stop harassing people, now that he's dead) and destabilizing some U.S. friendly regimes and now he's even allowed to die a martyr's death - instead of being captured.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    fuckin awesome.

    by vulturess

    fuckin awesome job by awesome heroes.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Thank you Bruce Willis!

    by D.Vader

    Thank you for punching Bin Laden's ticket to HELL!

  • May 2, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    People that DEMAND proof need punched in the neck

    by steve

    Take your paranoia and petty conspiracies to a Fox News forum already. Still don't know why these folks call themselves Americans, they seen more upset that OBL is dead than his own folks are. Guess they wanted a white president to do the deed

  • May 2, 2011, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Oh one more thing, that Usama death photo that the press is showing

    by kabookieslap

    has already been confirmed a photoshop fake. And a really bad one. See here http://tinyurl.com/3gl4u4c Damn people are a gullible breed now a days

  • May 2, 2011, 9:25 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Interesting talkback. Reading it is like being in a noisy bar. Bin Laden's dead and there's fat harry the barman musing on what it'll mean for the box office of a superhero movie. There's celebratory chanting from some. Arguing from others about the politics. Name calling and jingoism. And there, in the corner, is emeraldboy drinking his Guiness blindly blathering on to no one in particular about the IRA and some bloke from a chip shop. Wtf?

  • May 2, 2011, 9:27 a.m. CST

    If Captain America is a hit, and I think it will be....

    by Jaster

    It will have fuck-all to do with Osama Bin Laden. It will be a hit because it has good characters and is a story well told. As for Osama's death, I think we can all let out a collective sigh of relief because I think it is now far less likely that we will have another attack against the U.S.

  • who risked their ass bagging this sheep fucker. Marvel is run by nothing but penny pinching termites who should all die penniless and ill. Not one of those fucks have even an ounce of the moral fiber their characters do. FUCK YOU MARVEL

  • May 2, 2011, 9:29 a.m. CST

    the good friday agreement was a sham...

    by emeraldboy

    it was an appeasement document handed to sinn feinn and the loyalist. their foot soldiers emptied out of the maze prison. the war was over for adams and mcguinness and they became statesmen, travelling the world meeting people like bush and clinton. blair hollowed out the law for these former terrorists by declaring that under the terms of the agreement that anyone would be caught doing terrorist activities would be released under the early release scheme. so a man who was a provo and shot a killed another man in cold blood got a sentence of 20 years but under the terms of the good friday deal he will get 5 and be out in two. dissidents know this and they carry on killing policemen like ronan kerr. and making threats to the queen. the vast majority of irish people were revolted. the war of mcguinness and adams achieved nothing, except it brought death, mayhem and misery. the war of al queada will fail. war always fails and they peeter out.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:31 a.m. CST

    conan_the_librarian and 9/11 celebrations

    by SSquirrel

    I had friends who lived in the UAE at the time of 9/11, they were over there teaching English. There were candlelight vigils for the US and people confused b/c Bin Laden's message had nothing to do with the beliefs they had. If you are referring to the Palestinian celebrations, those were a staged event. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_September_11_attacks

  • May 2, 2011, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Okay, I'll ask the question...WHERE WERE YOU?

    by darthderp

    WHERE WERE YOU when you first heard the news? Me? It was late last night; I was channel surfing on the couch and falling asleep (which should give you an idea of how good TV was), when I stumbled on one of the cable news channels. I saw the headline and cold water to the face couldn't have woken me up any faster.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:34 a.m. CST

    What will history say?

    by Ciderman

    When the future us look back, in 50 or 60 years and look upon the events since WWII, will they shake their heads? The exploitation of oil rich countries, the rising anger amongst their populations against their leaders and the multi-national corps and the governments that support them, should this desire to influence the destiny of foreign nations in the "national interest", this is our shame. We become no better than the slave traders, the empires of old europe around the world. As for the success of the US mission against terror? The legacy of Bin Laden? Just look at the america now compared to america of this date 10 years ago. Look how driven by xenophobia the fringes have become, look how the great free nation has become that which it used to hate, a repressive, quasi-police state. Watch all the movies and surf the net as much as you like, but you're only getting two presidential candidates and both are right wing, compared to international norms. Look at international attitudes to the us. Look at the attitude of the us to the internation court of human rights. An american soldier cannot be tried for war crimes, you have not signed up.... Yes, future people will feel nothing but shame for the violence and hardship we have brought upon ourselves here, in this very small world of ours. Too small, we have to get along with our neighbours, regardless of religion or political view. Not everyone wants to be america, nor europe, that system is tailored to a euro centric ideal of democracy, not everyone wants it, stop forcing it on others. Perhaps a tolerance and desire to build relationships instead of punishing possible rivals would mean brighter times in the future... Gods, I hope so.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Mr Knowles..

    by IKilledSuperman

    ..are you serious? And what should we "foreigners" be afraid of now, exactly? You are aware that not all of your "foreigner" readers are fundamentalists, are you? There are a lot of coutries outside the american continent. Look it up one day you feel like it... Oh, and Captain America is a superhero fantasy movie, there was never a Captain America or a supersoldier serum in the real world, ya know? This is my last post here. Not that I feel insulted in any way (LOL). I´ve just had it with your ignorant and badly written BS. Garth from Darkhorizons at least is an intelligent chap who knows how to write two sentences in a row without dumb drivel..

  • May 2, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    cute tie in to make the subject relevant to the site

    by Dreamfasting

    People of many nationalities died in the 9/11 attacks - this wasn't just an American tragedy, it was a world tragedy. There is a global moment of catharsis here, but also a tiny fear that the US will like the taste of blood a little too much.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    metahuman_slayer does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Come on metahuman - don't go out with a bitter last post... One more post dude. Do it for the talkbackers man. Do it for the boys. Come on dude. ONE MORE POST!

  • May 2, 2011, 9:56 a.m. CST

    metahuman_slayer does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Come on metahuman - don't go out with a bitter last post... One more post dude. Do it for the talkbackers man. Do it for the boys. Come on dude. ONE MORE POST!

  • May 2, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Buried at sea? Before releasing photo/video evidence?

    by Andy Pandy

    The conspiracy nuts are going to have a field day with this! At least the Republicans, esp. Giuliani, can never invoke 911 and politicize it ever again.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    the vast majority of those died on 9/11

    by emeraldboy

    were irish or of irish extraction....

  • May 2, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    What an infantile post, Harry - go climb back into your pram

    by scrote

  • May 2, 2011, 10:30 a.m. CST

    they'll release photos soon

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    they'll have to.<P> Strange that they didn't do that already, at least before they announced that they ditched the body. It does seem tailor made to appeal to the conspiracy nuts, which is a bit of a weird move.<P> What is fun is watching the conspiracy theorist's line change from 'bin laden died in Tora Bora and is being used as an excuse for war' to 'he's still alive and the US is lying!' Awesome.<P> We'll have photos by tonight, i'd imagine. But a round in the eye won't have been pretty so i'm expecting a mortician job a la Uday and Qusay..

  • May 2, 2011, 10:30 a.m. CST

    quantize, since when you are a progressive?

    by AsimovLives

  • May 2, 2011, 10:32 a.m. CST

    what I amazed by is that the us and about 4 years from 1996

    by emeraldboy

    or 5 years to stop osama bin laden and they failed. vengence was on bush's mind when he launched the war on terror because he knew that is what the american people wanted. when terrorism attacks, all sense of normality goes out the window. when the ira attacked britain in the 1970s, if you were irish and opened your mouth they considered you a terrorist and there was a door in heathrow airport called the green door and it if you happened to be cocky enough to fight with airline security you were put in that room. and the experience i gather was not very pleasant one. the bbc did a documentary about that place and it was sound proofed. and the guy who ran it was a thug and was racist if i recall.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST

    I think what made the success of Iron Man (and $$-wise its sequel)

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    besides the cocky appeal and charm of Downey, is that it was based in some form of actual reality. The Green Lantern? An interplanetary form of police with strange worlds and aliens? It'll take Ryan Reynolds to sell that to the audience, which I think he's capable, but its a tough sell. Captain America, like Iron Man, is at least based on reality, fantastical reality, but at least earth based reality.

  • My point remains, despite the spelling mistake. Of which: If you think Captain America would have any part in the Iraq invasion and killing Bin Laden as a response to claiming credit for 9/11 then you are a fucking idiot.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST

    that said, if there aren't any photos

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    then I will consider it at worst complete bullshit and at best evidence that something very suspect went down. Not releasing evidence of this would be inexcusable. Even with photos there will always be theories and alternate explanations, so not releasing anything would just come across as very strange.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:34 a.m. CST

    what I amazed by is that the us and about 4 years from 1996

    by emeraldboy

    or 5 years to stop osama bin laden and they failed. vengence was on bush's mind when he launched the war on terror because he knew that is what the american people wanted. when terrorism attacks, all sense of normality goes out the window. when the ira attacked britain in the 1970s, if you were irish and opened your mouth they considered you a terrorist and there was a door in heathrow airport called the green door and it if you happened to be cocky enough to fight with airline security you were put in that room. and the experience i gather was not very pleasant one. the bbc did a documentary about that place and it was sound proofed. and the guy who ran it was a thug and was racist if i recall.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:40 a.m. CST

    I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG

    by BSB

    of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST

    BETWEEN THIS AND FAST FIVE

    by BSB

    This was a damned good weekend

  • It should.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Why we haven't seen photos or footage yet....

    by darthderp

    You've got to remember; victory or not, we're on HIGH ALERT now and we don't need to provoke any radicals out there any more than we have already. Those photos, the real ones, will come out in due time. From what I've read in the news, Islamic law mandates a swift preparation and burial. We, meaning whoever was handling this, weren't sure which country would want to claim Bin Ladin's remains, so we took a bit of the high road and saw to it ourselves with the at sea burial.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I DOUBT HE WAS BURIED AT SEA

    by BSB

    He's probably chopped up and put into a pig stew. Which is too good a fate, if you ask me.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    I THINK THE SEALS' IDENTITIES WILL REMAIN ANONYMOUS

    by BSB

    so they and their families don't become the target of some fucking fatwa. That said, give them every cent of the $25 mil. In cash, and tax free. Heroes one and all.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Didn't see you there, BSB

    by DocPazuzu

    "BSB".... Did you get banned again for an anti-Semitic tirade? Or was it something else this time? <p> And how am I less of an American than you? Because I'm not a birther? Because I actually believe Al Qaeda was behind 9/11? <p> It's hilarious watching you make like Toby Keith here considering that you've gone on record saying 9/11 was the work of American insiders and Israel. What an intellectual coward you are. By the way, I loved watching your asshat birther-in-chief getting pwned the other day. <p> Go back to infowars for another jack-off session, you insufferable, malignant cunt.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Didn't see you there, BSB

    by DocPazuzu

    "BSB".... Did you get banned again for an anti-Semitic tirade? Or was it something else this time? <p> And how am I less of an American than you? Because I'm not a birther? Because I actually believe Al Qaeda was behind 9/11? <p> It's hilarious watching you make like Toby Keith here considering that you've gone on record saying 9/11 was the work of American insiders and Israel. What an intellectual coward you are. By the way, I loved watching your asshat birther-in-chief getting pwned the other day. <p> Go back to infowars for another jack-off session, you insufferable, malignant cunt.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST

    I'm portuguese. There were portuguese killed in the 9/11 attacks.

    by AsimovLives

    In fact, the 9/11 was the moment where most portuguese were killed by a single event since the end of our African Colonial War. So, yeah, the 9/11 was also a moment of tragedy and sadness for us, because it was such a dreadful event happening to an ally, but also because it hit us as well, fellow portuguese were killed. It's foolhardy to think this is the end of something. The cooler heads in here are saying it as it is: We just don't know what will happen next. And then there's the fact that images of shotgun celebrations all around USA, specially in the southern states, might just give the wrong image. Makes people in the world ask themselves, where the americans after Bin Laden for justice or for revenge? It makes for a big difference.

  • May 2, 2011, 11 a.m. CST

    yeah, they're saying the photos are pretty graphic

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • May 2, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST

    yeah, they're saying the photos are pretty graphic

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • May 2, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST

    yeah, they're saying the photos are pretty graphic

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • May 2, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST

    i saw a documentary on what channel I forget..

    by emeraldboy

    it was called the ghost of bin laden and it was all about bin laden was a tool of the cia. anyway the theory goes that as bin laden got more difficult to handel they cut him loose. but always kept him under observation. there is also speculation that the cia stepped to save his life. a number of years ago, sickly looking bin laden made a tape, he was apparently near death, his skin was yellow and jaundiced looking. rumours swirled around the place that bin laden was dying. being a tribes man he kept on the move, the american's knew two things that he was protected by a loyal band of mercenaries who had connections to gangesters in afganistan some of whom serve under hamid karzai and that the pakistanis knew where bin laden was. back to this documentary on it it was stated bin laden had died and was buried and that was over seen by a cia guy. who knew the area and bin laden well. one other story claims that bin laden needed urgent emergency surgery and was brought to at least one of two hospitals one was in pakistan and i think the other could have been saudi arabia and that he was given a new name. whilst in these hospitals. we will never know for sure. the cia's plan has been to scare the american people stupid. he was a ghost created by the bush administration to remind people of what evil looked like. the US do this from time to time. they erode someones backstory and say this country or this belief is so dangerous that it threatens the world. when actually it only threatens american interests. during the dying days of the blair/brown era, all you could her was the mantra we are fighting the wars of seas to keep the british streets safe and my reply. safe from what?

  • May 2, 2011, 11:08 a.m. CST

    @ asimovlives...

    by darthderp

    No, it may not be the end of anything. But it's a damn good start. BTW; before the talkback forum short circuited Friday afternoon, on Capone's Fast Five review, I mentioned about Joaquim De Almeda being in the film and you made a remark about him being the best Portuguese export since...something. Maybe a bit late for a response, but I respectfully disagree..that honor goes to my wife. :-)

  • May 2, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    RE: Obama, Patriotism, This Site

    by jorson28

    'Glad to see that this site is as skeptical of patriotism in a moment like this with Obama in office as it would have been if Bush were in office. ;) Even as a registered Republican, though(albeit inactive at the moment because I won't vote for inexperienced obstructionists), I have to give Obama props. When the time came, he made the decision to kill Bin Laden, and that was the ONLY sensible thing to do. To "movienut401": I get your point about provoking radicals, but it's sort of moot because the fact that they are "radicals" usually means that they really don't need provoked most of the time to do something, well... "radical." If provocation means actually doing something meaningful - like this - then I hope there's more. That said, now that Osama is gone, I really don't think the military needs to be in Afghanistan. The Afghan leader that the USA essentially put into power has already threatened to invite the Taliban back if the US military stayed much longer, so what's the point? What can be accomplished? In conclusion, I've always been more of a DC guy than a Marvel one, but in this case, I hope the "Captain America" movie does VERY well, if only because it looks like a really good movie to begin with. Maybe Bin Laden's death will help it, maybe not. I tend to think audiences will separate the two. After all, Hollywood is so scared of actually showing pride in their country that the movie isn't even entitled "Captain America" overseas - just "The First Avenger." That's a bit like saying that James Bond and Sherlock Holmes aren't British so as to not offend non-Brits. Ridiculous.

  • May 2, 2011, 11:12 a.m. CST

    yeah, they're saying the photos are pretty graphic

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • May 2, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Two things first THOR

    by u.k. star

    People ned to get up to speed. The film is pretty much already a hit. It made $10m in 10 days in Australia, against Fast 5 which is a very popular sequel. It made $83m in the past few days despite Fast 5, Royal Wedding, Massive Football games and great weather. With the only competition Fast 5 and Thor have for a few eeks being each other, and both doing well despite appearig to be after the same audience, Thos is already a hit. More than that word of mouth on it is very high so it is likely to pick up a lot of cash next weekend from people who went to see Fast 5 and now want to se Thor. Whilst it may not be easy to predict how well it will open In America (anything higher than Incredible Hulk's opening will be seen as a success) I'd be surprised if it doesn't open pretty big.

  • May 2, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Second Box office boost....Pearl Harbour

    by u.k. star

    Does nobody remember how reviled that film was? But September 11 happend and they couldn't make DVDs fast enough. There's no way it didn't get a boost, a tragic boost, from the whole 9/11 thing. I don't know if Cap will get one, with it being so far away, but there's plenty of jingoistic crap appearing all over Marvel and Captain America boards and Facebook. On another note, as much as people don't like Bin Laden (obviously he was a hero to many, but you know what I mean) but the fact that he was killed, on foreing soil, denied a trial and quickly (I know there's a religious reason for alacrity here) buried at sea will not sit well, IS NOT sitting well with many and may harm Captain America IFMarvel are seen tying theCaptain into American Foreign Policy. They don't in the comics; Steve Rogers has quit being Cap when various governments have forced their agenda on him, Aerican dream and AMerican ideals are his watchwords, not American Government or American politics / policies.

  • May 2, 2011, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Pretty sure they would havve tried to give Hitler a trial

    by u.k. star

  • Maybe he's jealous that the SEALs were able to get Bin Laden with a precision strike, and the Mossad can't kill a Hamas operative without slaughtering a village of women and children along with him. Pathetic and pitiful. And you're not an American because (1) your loyalty is with Israel and not the United States and (2) you don't pay taxes like I do.

  • May 2, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Not everyone in Ireland is crazy

    by TheComedian77

    Just emeraldboy. Assuming he IS Irish, and not just a plastic paddy. Oh, and jorson28, you really think Obama gave an order to kill Bin Laden? It was, unless we want to make assumptions, a mission to capture him. He was killed in a fire fight, not assassinated. Still don't see why Obama deserves any individual credit for this outcome........

  • like Bush pulled 911 at his lowest level of popularity. When there was a show on tv called That's my Bush that openly lampooned him and his family by name. Show was never seen after 911. We invented all of this shit so I don't believe a fucking thing they say on tv. Nothing. Not one fucking thing. They invented the Taliban and all this shit. Hey at least they arn't straight up drafting your ass and grinding you up in the war machine for pure profit like they were doing when I was a kid. I remember being taught in school that war was good for population reduction. That's right kids. The notion of killing people like cattle has been engrained in you. They're not people at all. Not human like you. Oh wait- they're talking about YOU. Here's what you should have stood up in class and said- "Are you fucking insane?!!!" We have to teach people not to breed like ants so that there's enough food and water for everyone. Anyway. Yay! Glad he's dead. Hope technology fixes us because we are fucked beyond comprehension.

  • May 2, 2011, 11:51 a.m. CST

    "It is a historic moment in history."

    by jrb

    Jesus... Did you drop out of school in the 4th grade Harry? Because you write like a nine year old child.

  • May 2, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    But then again maybe none of my instincts and factual knowledge

    by UltraTron

    are correct. Perhaps operation Northwoods never really existed. Perhaps vietnam was just a dream I had. Perhaps monsanto really didn't almost destroy the world with a plant that would have reduced all plant life to alchohol. Perhaps if you were born after 1979 you really don't have half as much sperm as someone born before.

  • May 2, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    After 9/11 I remember True Lies getting a dvd boost...

    by Andrew Coleman

    That movie is hilarious. Captain America will do fine on its own. Also it comes out in July... By then people will be too busy talking about Lohan or some celebrity marriage. Doubt this will effect the BO in any way.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    DAMMIT HARRY IT'S "IT IS *AN* HISTORIC DAY IN HISTORY"

    by BSB

    Get with the program.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST

    YEAH, DIE, REVENGE, KILL, DIE, DIE, MURDER, KILL!

    by David Cloverfield

    Then celebrate the headshot on the streets. You know. This is how the "good guys" behave in a conflict.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    JESSE VENTURA FOR PRESIDENT

    by BSB

    He would get shit back on track. AND shut down HAARP.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:10 p.m. CST

    well, BSB...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...two things: <p> 1) Show me one bit of evidence that my loyalties lie with any foreign power other than the United States (and that I'm a tax dodger while you're at it). <p> 2) You're still the guy who claimed that 9/11 was an inside job. Then again, you're also the guy who defended Iran's president until the riots at which point you suddenly realized you'd get killed in talkback and changed your mantra. I see a pattern. A pattern of cowardice. <p> What a complete and utter fraud you are, BSB.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    The makers of the next

    by Dave Catanese

    Call of Duty game are high fiving themselves today, as the final level of the next game was just written for them.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    The makers of the next

    by Dave Catanese

    Call of Duty game are high fiving themselves today, as the final level of the next game was just written for them.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    It's after 1:00 in the afternoon, EST...day feels surreal...

    by darthderp

    Kind of like on 9/11, now that I think of it. Weird. "We are simply passing through history. This...this IS history."

  • May 2, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    It's after 1:00 in the afternoon, EST...day feels surreal...

    by darthderp

    Kind of like on 9/11, now that I think of it. Weird. "We are simply passing through history. This...this IS history."

  • May 2, 2011, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Two blazing ironies

    by 2LeggedFreak

    These two fit in with my rather cynical view of the world:- Waziristan Mansion was what the locals apparently called the compound Bin Laden was in. Supposedly because they thought it was built by somebody from the remote mountainous area where, ahem, Bin Laden was supposed to be hiding. Intelligence services ? Fred,Thelma and the gang would have figured that one out. ! And its a mansion compound, quelle surprise. This spoilt little rich boy who asks people to die and kill for a grand cause, isn't caught hiding out in caves. He's caught in his mansion , preparing for his next blow job from his new young wife. Why people follow these two-faced, privileged, fuckwits is beyond me

  • May 2, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST

    We need a new Chuck Norris joke right about now

    by TommyTonz

    too soon?? :)

  • May 2, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    DOCPAZUZU

    by BSB

    Your tireless defense of Israel - even when nobody is attacking Israel - is proof enough, Shlomo. And you're not a tax dodger. I'm sure Sweden appreciates your tax contribution very much. Just don't pretend you're an American when filing your return. Do you deny that Osama was a CIA operative? Do you deny that the Bush family had and still has strong ties with the Bin Laden family? Do you deny that Bush administration officials (i.e. of the Neocon stripe) refused to take action even when warned of imminent danger of attack by hijackers? Do you also deny the Neocons had a plan in place to invade Iraq, and all that was needed was a Pearl Harbor-type incident to use as as catalyst? Yes, I was very much disappointed that Ahmadinejad met the protesters with a violent, brutal crackdown. How that has to do with "realizing you'd get killed in talkback" is a pretty laughable stretch of my views. But then again you're a desperate little fly trying to bring down the elephant, so you know all about laughable.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST

    R.I.P. OSAMA BIN LADEN

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    I'm afraid to say anything too negative, because I know how touchy the blackboxers are when it comes to these AICN obituaries.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST

    CHOPPAH

    by BSB

    Are we friends with Nordling now? Has peace been made? Or do we send it SEALs?

  • May 2, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    I am irish....

    by emeraldboy

    and not a plastic paddy either. I am 100 pc irish.

  • SO. WHAT. To be a martyr, you must be dead. To be reading this, you must be alive. I'll repeat that; it's fairly important to my point. Martyr = dead. Reading this = alive. Let other parties have their martyr. I personally know which one I'd rather be.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Politically-charged Talkbacks like this one...

    by Astronut

    ... are great because they really put things into perspective with regard to the mental state of certain TBers. The nuts are separated from the other items in the snack bowl, lol. Instead of yukking it up over Batman and Superman et al, the "regulars" really expose themselves for who they are when they start with all of their conspiracy gibberish. The 911 conspiracy theorists are some of the most disturbed people I have ever come across.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    bsb, Nordling is a delicate flower that needs to be nurtured

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    It takes a village of talkbackers to raise a good AICN columnist. Oh, and R.I.P. Obama Bin Laden. Can't forget to pay my respects or risk the Banhammer.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    First of all there is no hell, but if there were...

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    I don't think that it is any of Mike Huckabee's business to say who is going there. That would God who decides. "Justice is mine, sayeth the Lord!" Read your bible, Huckabee.

  • ... maybe it was a little insensitive but not something to cry over. This is a site covering immature things like, oh, CAPTAIN AMERICA. IT'S NOT CNN, DICK HEADS. If Harry wants to ask a question/postulate over a film's marketability, even when it relates to a real life tragic event, then so what? If you don't like it, go somewhere else. Pretty simple IMO

  • May 2, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by DocPazuzu

    By your logic I suppose that means your "tireless defense" of Iran means you're an Iranian. I hate to break it to you, but not everyone who supports Israel's right to exist is a Jew. Shocking, isn't it? <p> When I live and work in the U.S. I pay taxes just like every other American. You have some nerve calling into question the loyalties and citizenship of all expatriates or part-time expatriates. Then again, that's pretty much all you can bring to the table. <p> You have steadfastly called 9/11 an "inside job" and are also a documented birther and Holocaust revisionist -- in other words you're either a severely demented fruitcake or a most sinister individual indeed.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    despite what you may think...

    by emeraldboy

    and you dont know me at all. I am actually very sane. most conspiracy theories are for the birds quite frankly. obama destroyed all the is osama dead nonsense by steathly tracking down and putting a bullet in his brain. what the us needs to know is to track down the us traitor who was head off osama media campaign. put him on trial and get all the info he has and then dismantle al queada once and for all. they next need to go after armin am zwhari. put him on trial and then boot his ass to alcatraz. they should seriously reconsider opening that prison. that is where you put the al queada leadership. but do it such a way that they hand over all the info they have and by the time its all over america will leave no in doubt about the real leaders of the world are.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    I'm glad that cunt is dead. Captain America got em!

    by UltraTron

    Yaaaay! Now if only he had owned up to 911 and took credit for it instead of telling the reporters that it looked like an inside job to him. Fact is you can't find evidence of Osama owning up to 911. But you can find him saying he didn't do it. That alone is fucked. I'd be more inclined to believe the US if they weren't so fucking suspicious as fuck about every fucking single fucking little fucking mutherfucking tiny fucking detail. Like burning every video, computer/record of every air traffic controller on 911 because you have the sworn testimony from the controllers. Yeah you don't need that. Nothing can be gleaned from that info. Sorry folks but you are in the machine. Let's keep that machine chugging away

  • its the minority reports ending on the chicken and the egg bitch, oh yes it is!

  • May 2, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    No such thing as tranquilizer darts. Nothing to be gleaned or

    by UltraTron

    gained by interrogation. Definitely glad he's dead. And I totally trust that photos were taken at least and that they at least killed their fellow CIA operative. I mean I hope they didn't just make it completely up and -at least slaughtered their fellow CIA operative Osama Bin Laden. That renegade cunt of the universe. Man I totally believe that he went bad and attacked us

  • May 2, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST

    DOCPAZUZU

    by BSB

    If I brought up a defense of Iran every time I posted, then you could rightfully say I was Persian. But that's not the case, is it, Shlomy? "When I live and work in the U.S. I pay taxes just like every other American." And just how often is that? I'm betting rarely to never. It's fine that you left America, good luck with that and all - but you're no American anymore.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    HARRY, WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS WEB SITE AND WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FIX IT?!

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    If the recent upgrade was supposed to be an improvement: EPIC FAIL!!! It seems that every week there is a major issue that brings AICN to a screeching halt. And when it is up it takes forever for pages to load and weird stuff happens randomly when you click on links within the site. GET YOUR SH*T TOGETHER, MAN! KICK SOME WEBMASTER A$$. WEB "MASTER", MY A$$! Braindrain could probably run this site better.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    HARRY, WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS WEB SITE AND WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FIX IT?!

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    If the recent upgrade was supposed to be an improvement: EPIC FAIL!!! It seems that every week there is a major issue that brings AICN to a screeching halt. And when it is up it takes forever for pages to load and weird stuff happens randomly when you click on links within the site. GET YOUR SH*T TOGETHER, MAN! KICK SOME WEBMASTER A$$. WEB "MASTER", MY A$$! Braindrain could probably run this site better.

  • Where the U.S. is in some real danger.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST

    @ the Bush lovers

    by NoMotivatioN

    Democrats: Punishing the criminals Republicans create- Republicans, On this day, We say.. SUCK IT! YOU BACKWARD RETARDED PIECES OF SHITS All words created by Inception23code ;)

  • he chose to take that acid and those mushrooms. His choice.. it was a tragedy.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    @ the Bush lovers

    by NoMotivatioN

    Democrats: Punishing the criminals Republicans create- Republicans, On this day, We say.. SUCK IT! YOU BACKWARD RETARDED PIECES OF SHITS All words created by Inception23code ;)

  • May 2, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    I mean... a tragedy for his fellow traitors in the axis of evil

    by alexander

  • May 2, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST

    I mean... a tragedy for his fellow traitors in the axis of evil

    by alexander

  • Torture away, fellas!

  • May 2, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Just try to imagine

    by Dancingforever

    The films and video games we will get out of this. This would be the perfect come back vehicle for Charlie Sheen.

  • That would be a great token of respect and honor.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:33 p.m. CST

    but seriously, this is new news!?

    by alexander

    People been showing up the new Pepsi logo turned upside down for years now FFS! Sort it out Harry!

  • May 2, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    I TRY MY BEST TO ADHERE TO HIGH MORAL STANDARDS

    by BSB

    But if waterboarding DocPaz will produce actionable intel, fill up the jug hoss.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Alright fuck this. Back to blind optimism mode.

    by UltraTron

    Sure, sure the world faces it's greatest challenges. Sure, sure this is a step in the right direction. Go captain America! Fuck superman in his alien ass! American solidarity. Fuck this bullshit. Ted Nugent for president. Live in perfect harmony with a gun and your surrounding environment. Since I live in CA I've decided to learn how to hunt squirrels and possum. I've learned to use the surrounding concrete to conceal myself. Sometimes I will use a homeless person as camouflage; hiding under them Rambo-style in their filth until it's time to spring forth from underneath and attack my prey.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    LOOKS LIKE AL QAEDA IS RETALIATING ALREADY

    by BSB

    Site's slower than DocPaz's comebacks.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST

    the ahmed chalabi...

    by emeraldboy

    story proves how utterly idiotic the bush adminstration and the cia were to believe that lying fraudster and fantasist.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST

    but seriously, this is new news!?

    by alexander

    People been showing up the new Pepsi logo turned upside down for years now FFS! Sort it out Harry!

  • May 2, 2011, 1:45 p.m. CST

    but seriously, this is new news!?

    by alexander

    People been showing up the new Pepsi logo turned upside down for years now FFS! Sort it out Harry!

  • May 2, 2011, 1:47 p.m. CST

    well if a 4th is needed to get it right:

    by alexander

  • May 2, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    but seriously, this is supposed to be new news!?

    by alexander

    People been showing the new Pepsi logo turned upside down for years now FFS! Sort it out Harry!

  • May 2, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST

    weird timey wimey stuff going on here on AICN today

    by alexander

  • May 2, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST

    weird timey wimey stuff going on here on AICN today

    by alexander

  • May 2, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST

    weird timey wimey stuff going on here on AICN today

    by alexander

  • May 2, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    AHH YES, AHMED CHALABI

    by BSB

    The Neocons weren't so much deceived by him as they were complicit in his role to push for an invasion of Iraq. Now it turns out he's a double-agent of Iran's.

  • May 2, 2011, 1:57 p.m. CST

    braindrain stop pissing your pants you moron troll

    by alexander

  • May 2, 2011, 1:57 p.m. CST

    braindrain stop pissing your pants you moron troll

    by alexander

  • LOL

  • http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/20388/-avengers-script-leak-halts-production

  • May 2, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Osama bin Laden...

    by WeylandYutani

    World Hide & Seek Champion: 2001-2011.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    O BEAUTIFUL FOR SPACIOUS SKIES

    by BSB

    For amber waves of grain, For purple mountain majesties Above the fruited plain! America! America! God shed His grace on thee, And crown thy good with brotherhood From sea to shining sea!

  • May 2, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Osama bin Laden...

    by WeylandYutani

    World Hide & Seek Champion: 2001-2011.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Breaking News...

    by WeylandYutani

    Chuck Norris returns from trip to Pakistan.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    WORD, BRAINDRAIN

    by BSB

    The only thing a real American wears on his head is a baseball cap. Towels are for drying, not for wearing.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Obama 2012 Slogan:

    by WeylandYutani

    Sorry it took so long to get a copy of my birth certificate... I was busy killing Osama bin Laden.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Since most Americans are retarded..yeah probably

    by alienindisguise

    They need to wake up and realize their own government are the real terrorists. Will Osama being dead help the national debt?, will it raise minimum wage? Will it mean the US will help it's own citizens before sending help abroad? FUCK NO!

  • May 2, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Can we get the Seal Team that Killed Osama to put two bullets in Michael Bays Skull

    by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage

  • May 2, 2011, 2:39 p.m. CST

    is Osama Bin Laden gonna be in the "in memoriam" at next years Academy Awards

    by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage

  • May 2, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    PARDON ME, I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY!!

    by darthderp

    Seriously, I'm tapped out. Between staying up late to watch the coverage last night, getting pissed at Harry's headline and spewing a fair amount - for me, anyway - of vitrol his way, and wading through the...um...political viewpoints that have dominated this talkback, I'm done. Time to go mellow out and enjoy the rest of the day; suggest you all try to do the same. Ciao.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Harry

    by D.Vader

    This post is one major FACEPALM of embarrassment.

  • I should have clarified. But trying to tie this major event into whether or not this will make Captain America a blockbuster, or whether or not Captain America will overshadow the real heroes who got bin Laden (and you bet on Marvel?) feels to be in extremely poor taste.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:56 p.m. CST

    The real enemy is not dead...

    by Jeremy

    The all-consuming beast that is the American war machine is still alive and well and ravaging the landscape of the world. How many innocent lives must be taken before we all realize where the real evil lies? Bin Laden's death was an orchestrated cover-up to divert attention from the controversy surrounding the legitimacy of Obama's birth, and you dumbshits ate it up and took to the streets bleating like the lambs that you are. The ruling elite loves watching your united celebrations, by the way. It just proves that nothing is easier to control than a herd animal.

  • May 2, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    If there's one thing I learned from comic books ...

    by ReportAbuse

    ... it's that if you don't have the supervillain's body, on ice preferably, he'll probably come back at some point in the future. I wouldn't be surprised if a few years from now the story gets retconned to explain that his corpse was picked up by a secret supervillain submarine and carefully revived (or failing that, cloned) and augmented with various extraterrestrial technology to make him more evil than ever.

  • With the severe weather happening over six states, dvd sales of Twister saw a spike last week.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Harry...Honestly curious about Diane's boyfriend's phrasing...

    by ravenloff

    "Osama Bin Laden killed by U.S.A. & Obama" Now, why in the world would his text seperate the two? Wouldn't it have been just as descriptive to say 'killed by U.S.A."? Is the boyfriend not a US citizen? Is he a supposedly objective journalist and thus tries to exist outside national lenses? Just curious, you understand, as quick phrasing on an excited text might just give a glimpse into the guy's worldview. Overthinking it, perhaps, but what else but overthinking goes on here at this website?

  • May 2, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    To all of the conspiracy theorists out there...

    by WeylandYutani

    a few things to consider: Yes, Presidents have been caught lying in the past, but only because it was a desperate act of last resort or it was easy to conceal the true outcome of original claim(s). And yes, there has not been photos of the body released (yet)... However, consider this: There was no reason for Obama to go to the networks and make the statement he did on May 1. Furthermore, if the President is lying and then bin Laden were to surface and release a video with a current newspaper w/ date to prove he is alive, it would mean the end of the administration. No president would dare risk that. Also, it is very unlikely that the President would make such an unretractable declaration unless the White House, Pentagon, NSA and CIA were 100% sure they killed bin Laden. The White House always protects the President and would never want to leave the door open during the 2012 presidential election for a Tea Party or Republican rival to use the fact that the President lied to the American people on national television against him. Finally, there is a simple test for your conundrum: If bin Laden is alive and well, then he will eventually release a video to Al Jazeera or CNN or the BBC etc to counter the claims of the White House. If that video never arrives, then it is pretty safe to say that bin Laden was assassinated by US special forces - body or no body. Bin Laden has released videos in the past for much more trivial matters even merely to taunt western intelligence agencies. This does not require special mental gymnastics for you to figure this out... just some good old fashioned reason.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Tell you what, BSB...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...why don't we see just how far you're willing to go on this? Are you saying that all expatriate Americans no longer are Americans? If not, then where does the line for "true" Americans go? How many years abroad? How many times abroad? Let's see just how many Americans you'd strip of their passports for the crime of spending too much time in other countries. <p> You're nothing but a bigoted, crypto-fascist scumbag. Most of the people celebrating on the streets of NYC would beat you to a pulp if you had the guts to voice your views to their faces.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    TB politics discussions always end with the word 'Fascist'

    by Larry Sellers

    Or begin with it.

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • May 2, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST

    rflmao at nyeeeaaarrrrggggghhhhhh !!!

    by crazybubba

  • May 2, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST

    weylandyutani...

    by UltimaRex

    What if a really good Osama lookalike posts a video?

  • May 2, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Great news, now can we end this stupid War on Terrorism

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    and leave the job of hunting terrorists to the people equipped to handle such things. The military was never designed to deal with such nuisance groups as Al Qaeda. Anti-terrorist work requires covert detective work. Using the military vs, Al Qaeda was tantamount to using a grenade to get rid of a hornet's nest in your yard.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Just in from Fox News...

    by Blanket-Man

    In Washington, African American confesses to killing elderly foreigner.

  • Explain to me how that's not a great idea.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Been a pretty interesting week. (nt)

    by Triple_J_72

  • May 2, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    "Towels are for drying, not for wearing".

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    But what about when you wear them on your head to dry your hair?

  • May 2, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Turns out Bush was 100% Correct

    by Atomike2

    You can't really argue that W's policies are what were brought to fruition today. I give Obama credit for not completely de-funding the CIA, but from an objective point of view, this happened despite Obama, not because of him. But hardcore partisans will be blind. Independents know what happened. Liberals - read books. All-liberal internet media rots your brains.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Black Panther kicks Captain America's ass on his show.

    by UltraTron

    The Black Panther show. It's on the highly non-segretist sounding BET network. Really cool southpark meets the comics style. Like to see marvel zombies cartoons like this.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Obama's 2012 Slogan..

    by Stalkeye

    "Yes I did"!

  • May 2, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST

    atomike2 - on Bin Hidin (no more)

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    Question: Since 9/11 happened eight months into Bush's Presidency, does that mean that the events should be blamed on him or Clinton? If Clinton, then that means Bush is totally blameless for the event that took place eight months into his presidency, and according to you gets all (or most) of the credit for Bin Hidin (no more's) death two years after he left office. Wow. Bush can do no wrong.

  • "Towel heads"? Good to see racism isn't dead here in America. I bet your parents are really proud of you.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST

    atomike2...

    by MagnoliAB

    What exactly was Bush 100% right about? The WMDs in Iraq? Afghanistan and OBL were afterthoughts to Bush... he used OBL as an excuse to invade Iraq and never did anything to get OBL. Obama was the one who actually put more pressure into Afghanistan, has overseen the capture of all these 9/11 dick bags like OBL, KSM, and all the others found in Pakistan, and yet, somehow, it was despite him. The policy of upping people in Afghanistan and bringing the fight to the border was OBAMA policy, and one that the Republican right has KILLED him for.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:52 p.m. CST

    You idiots really believe what the government tells you?

    by ninpobugei

  • May 2, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Will Harry's question go down as one of the most inane ever asked?

    by SnootyBoots

  • May 2, 2011, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Is it ok to be American now?.....

    by slugracer

    Really confused here... I thought all this flag waving stuff is what gets us in trouble...

  • May 2, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Black Panther anime is good, shows type Cap America really is

    by alexander

    the type who would see the 'war on terror' for the facade it really was, would go uncovering an kicking ass around any real war on terror. Also the type who tenically would lose in a physical fight with BP on his homeground the 1st time round. What can you say?: Black Panther is the real deal, no babyboy derping Will Smith with his "I can punch thin air with my mind and change reality!" nonsense. The REAL DEAL.

  • May 2, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Message to terrorists: Some night, in your home

    by leo54304

    or refuge, we're going to come for you and kill you. You shall see death as a shadow has come for you and know the terror that only a violent death can offer. It may take days, months or even years but you became a dead man the moment you attacked the USA.

  • May 2, 2011, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Alan Grant needs to wash his hair at least once a year!

    by alexander

  • May 2, 2011, 6:38 p.m. CST

    THEY SHOULD'VE CHOPPED THE MOTHERFUCKERS HEAD OFF

    by F-18

    and sent it to Gadaffi along with a note that says "You're next".

  • May 2, 2011, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Great Video footage

    by blueant

    I am glad to see someone wear something patriotic in this day of America hating progressive scumbags.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:15 a.m. CST

    Cobra

    by IKilledSuperman

    There ya go, last one. Me foreigner promise, LOL

  • May 3, 2011, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Get over the "America" name change it's THREE...

    by u.k. star

    Countries for God's sake! THREE!! MArvel Studios is a business and they have to take responsible, sensible business decisions! People will know who he is etx but at least cinemas and advertisers in those 3 markets won't have toput up provocative titles and posters around. Is it totally beyond belief for you guys that if there was a Chinese film coming out called the Communist Crusader they MAY change the title to simply The Crusader in America and a few other countries like, South Korea for example.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Alan Grant does not love riding in cabs a lot!!!

    by alexander

    Because they are a bitter expensive reminder of how you've been ripped off and let down by First line buses for the nth time again this evening/night and that that they probably won't be mailing you back with a compensation cheque for their lousy let down piece of shit now entirely non subsidised in our local area bus service, for the nth time... but Alan Grant loves towels because he needs to wash his hair at least once a year fuck me fuck yeah!

  • May 3, 2011, 6:44 a.m. CST

    the beginning of the end

    by oborostyle

    there was a time when the usa was a nation of real power and strength, now it only can define itself over the death and loose of others. i think today is a step further away from a civilised world, seeing you americans partying and journalists hug each other at the subject of the killing of a terrorist puts us people in europe at shame. the question is not if it will put an end to terrorism, because it will be to the contrary now where they have a new martyr in the arabic world. the question we are asking us here in europe is if we are witnessing the downfall of a once great nation that will cost us all ? ok obama will be president again but now with the killing of osama (and he never could get guatanamo closed) he isn't any better than george w. bush anymore. and finally seeing these posting from harry how osamas dead will be releated to captain americas box office in releation to osamas dead makes my weekend a very sad one.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:47 a.m. CST

    DOCPAZUZU

    by BSB

    How far am I willing to go with this? Far enough until you prove your loyalty to the United States so you aptly call yourself American. A series of questions to start: 1. If America were to invade Sweden tomorrow, would you take up arms against our troops?

  • designated as a voice of dissent or treason for daring or demanding the tough questions/answers. Like the fella who got yelled out of Prick O Reillys show, because his family were 9/11 victims, who deserves so much more than this utter bullshit and facade that is supposed to bring 'closure' and comfort, and answer for what was orchestrated on 9/11. Fucking insult, but the gov has also the absolute derps fooled and blissfully ignorant, so i guess that's okay and I shouldn't be looking to go rock the boat right now... ho hum.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:50 a.m. CST

    has also? has all folks

    by alexander

  • May 3, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST

    fox news are a bunch of cunts

    by emeraldboy

    they staged managed those rallies and those vox pops were staged to. fox news will cheerlead this govt and support its decision to bomb pakistan, this is inevitable. anger will rise in america against american pakistanis and fox news will manipulate its news coverage to that end. fox news will edit its coverage to say to the pakistani's that they supported terrorism in the wake of 9/11. they looked the other way. fox news was in all likelyhood in the covert intelligence that lead to the death bin laden. so they prepared those rallies. just in case. there was nothing spontaneous about them. I may be against the death penalty. bin laden got what was coming to him. i am glad he was taken out. I have an absolute hatred for terrorism of any kind. since the ira slaughtered those two children in manchester. I loathe adams and mcguinnes and the ira. and i have come to loathe the peace process over time. any deal which dilutes the law to release someone who has murdered someone else or give them a slap on the wrist is a bad deal.

  • May 3, 2011, 8:45 a.m. CST

    emeraldboy, Pakistan has nukes

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    The US ain't doing anything against them. That isn't to say the the chicken hawks at Faux News won't be beating the drum for it, but Obama is not an idiot warmonger like Bush.

  • May 3, 2011, 8:45 a.m. CST

    emeraldboy, what are you talking about?

    by Coughlins Laws

    I haven't the faintest clue. Are you talking about the "spontaneous" rallies of Obama voters who just happened to form outside the White House and in NYC, cheering like their team just won the Super Bowl?

  • May 3, 2011, 9:15 a.m. CST

    couglins, riddle me this

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    How come EVERY SINGLE conservative HAS to defend Fox News? You don't see every liberal or progressive defending MSNBC. Not trying to start crap. Just genuinely curious.

  • May 3, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Oh, and braindrain is just upset that some Muslim stole his shot rag

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    and now he has to lick his hand clean after he masturbates.

  • May 3, 2011, 9:37 a.m. CST

    BSB

    by Lost Jarv

    Don't talk shit, man. My wife is an American expat. She holds a US passport, fills out a US tax return and other such likes. Is she no longer to be considered American because she's been effectively living in the UK since 1998? Should she now hand her passport back to the American government? Is that what you're suggesting. That's the dumbest thing you've ever written. Nationality is more than residence.

  • He just made an incredibly stupid and convoluted statement about FoxNews and I called him on it. Conservatives don't go around making things up about MSNBC because they are blatantly ultra-liberal. Conservatives don't HAVE to make their bullshit up. However, when a liberal prattles on and on about some conspiracy where FoxNews supposedly bankrolled a rally, or whatever the fuck he said, it doesn't even make sense. Most of the college-age kids I saw in the videos I've seen from New York City were clearly Obama supporters and were probably anti-war protestors right up until Obama was elected. Now all of a sudden they're being manipulated into patriotism and supporting the President, all set up by Fox, when Fox supposedly hates the President? Huh? It doesn't make sense. When people make shit up out of thin air, they should be called on it, that's all...

  • May 3, 2011, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Conservatives don't HAVE to make their bullshit up

    by Lost Jarv

    Oh puh-lease. Coughdrop, you educationally subnormal piece of trailer trash, you really are a disgrace to the species.

  • May 3, 2011, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Sometime ago....

    by emeraldboy

    I was on youtube and I saw one of the most disgusting things. On the day jim Henson died, fox news sent two reporters to cover the story and they door stepped the shellshocked staff at henson hq. nauseating. I think they are a bunch of cunts, fox news. I equally loathe skynews. I really cant stand murdoch.

  • May 3, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    and when it comes to osama I am no liberal...

    by emeraldboy

    the man got what he deserved....I loathe terrorism and there are people in this talkback who never grew up in ireland during the late 1970s and 1980's as I did. I am no liberal when it comes to terrorism. I saw those pictures on my tv from nothern ireland whilst living in the republic as a boy. I loathe terrorism but I understand what causes it. terrorists are incredibly stupid people. who have a warped view of history and injustice. you can be tough on terrorism with understanding the root causes of terrorism. the brits decieded to lock up all the republicans and loyalists. didnt change a damn thing. on the conflict went untill about 1988, when the talking started. the change brought about by the peace process was remarkable and belfast buzzed and is buzzing. but it didnt stop those who will happily kill police men etc and soldiers and they threathened the queen two weeks calling her a war criminal. nasty stuff. most conservatives will choke on their dinners at the idea of talking to terrorists they always. but one day it will happen. Northern Ireland goes to polls tomorrow. and outcome will be that a former terrorist will be the first minister. and the shinners will end up running northern ireland. thanks a bunch mister blair.

  • May 3, 2011, 10:36 a.m. CST

    LOST JARV

    by BSB

    Your wife is cool by me. She's done nothing to warrant questioning about her loyalty, unlike Pazuzu.

  • May 3, 2011, 10:48 a.m. CST

    I know pakistan has nukes...

    by emeraldboy

    and that makes everyone worried. but then again so do the north koreans. who can if they want to nuke japan. and the eastern seaboard of the usa.

  • May 3, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv, Docpaz - that is far from the dumbest thing that racist bsb has written

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    just read any number of things he has written about Jews, still it is good to know that more and more people are seeing through his phony exterior and into his racist, Jew-hating heart that he tries to obscure by spouting inanities. there are a lot of annoying trolls on this site, but few are as relentlessly and fanatically anti-Jewish as bsb.

  • May 3, 2011, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Binned Laden

    by Malcior

    Bin Laden died years ago he had cancer and was on constant dyalysis. Spin Doctors have probably been cooking this one up since Bush's time and have been waiting for just the right moment to release this because most americans don't want to hear "died of natural causes". This all seems a little too Hollywood to me. Anyway don't kid yourselves that this is over theres always somebody in reserve to take over.

  • May 3, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST

    movienut401

    by AsimovLives

    Oh you are married to a portuguese wife. Nice! Have you tried to learn the language? Where is she from, anyway?

  • May 3, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST

    You nkow what Bin Laden really was? A rich boy playing causes.

    by AsimovLives

    And like all rich boys, they only manange to fuck things ups and turn things worst then they already were. If you guys read the biography of Osama Bin Laden, what's suprising is in on so many levels it paralels the life of George Dumbya Bush.

  • May 3, 2011, noon CST

    ultimarex

    by WeylandYutani

    A possibility I suppose. Saddam Hussein was known for using doubles. But they were used to conceal Saddam's movements, they were never used to replace him in the media because, from a distance, they looked relatively convincing, but up close it was apparent that they were just middle eastern chubby guys in uniform with a moustache that looked vaguely like Hussein. I think in bin Laden's case it is unlikely and the idea is a bit more at home in a James Bond, Mission Impossible or a Scooby Doo movie. Even if al-Qaeda could find someone to match bin Laden's facial features and body type, I doubt there are many who would volunteer for the job. Especially since it has been revealed that bin Laden was not "roughing it" with the rest of his troops in the AfPak frontier region, but was held up in Pakistani suburb. Remember, despite the amount of international attention the organization gets, al-Qaeda is a small radicalized group within the Muslim world consisting of radical Sunnis calling for global jihad. They are the rough equivalent of survivalist/paramilitary groups in the west; both groups get attention for dramatic and often violent public displays but neither represents the general views of their regional populations. They do differ in that western paramilitary groups do not have funding from millionaires like al-Qaeda did. Also, western countries have a well educated, highly literate and therefore highly critical population that includes a (relatively) free press making it hard for survivalist views to become widely supported. In contrast, much of the middle east has a relatively under educated and less literate population which opens the door for paranoia, misinformation and superstition in the general population. Anyway, the international press would leap at the chance to expose or debunk a bin Laden impostor by using something as simple as publicly available facial recognition software which is in use at airports, sports venues and other places large numbers of people gather. There will always be a minute segment of the population who would be fooled by a body double - like people who think that there were no moon landings - but this is the stuff of conspiracy theories. To be truly convincing, the impostor would not only have to be photographed, but he would also have to pontificate a bin-Laden-like Fatwā on video... that would be very hard to pull off convincingly. The odds are very low they could find someone who, not only looks like bin Laden, but also talked like bin Laden and shared his body language and finally, someone who believes in al-Qaeda's cause. (although if al-Qaeda were to clone bin Laden into a bin Laden Mini Me that would be awesome)! ;D So the test still stands: If a video is released of bin Laden speaking with a current newspaper, then we will know the White House lied. But if that video of bin Laden never comes, then it is safe to conclude he was killed by an American DEVGRU team in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

  • A fresh new poll by Pew Research just came out, and while Obama got a boost on the fighting terrorism front, his ratings on the economy remain so low a minesweeper could miss 'em. "It's the economy, stupid" - one of the few truthful things Clinton's camp ever uttered. As for who can claim victory - in my view, both Bush and Obama can. Bush sent the troops to Afghanistan to hunt down Bin Laden. There, they encountered both foreseen and unforeseen difficulties, but persisted in their hunt. In 2008, Bush sent the Special Ops into Pakistan (which was a war crime, as far as the Huffington Post was concerned), to beef up the search. When Obama got elected, he talked big talk about pulling the troops out of Iraq and sending them to Afghanistan to find Bin Laden. But reality can be a bitch, especially to a newbie like Obama. When Petraeus turned Iraq around (thanks to the surge that Obama opposed), Obama sent him to Afghanistan to hopefully make more military magic. And as a result, Petraeus and the Special Ops have finally gotten their man. Obama had the sense to give the proper command when the opportunity to get that man arose (unlike Clinton, who passed on that opportunity 3 times prior to 9/11). So yeah, Obama said "Yes" instead of "No", so he gets kudos for that. But Bush deserves his due also, as I see it. And most of all, the military and the Special Ops get the most applause for persisting in spite of destructive partisan rhetoric at home and finally accomplishing their mission. AMERICA ROCKS. The end.

  • May 3, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Did someone mention the Black Panther series?

    by Stalkeye

    Great limited animation miniseries and not bad for a comic cut-out. And yes, ultratron one of the highlights from the first episode is how Tchalla's father, kicked the shit out of Cap who came off a bit arrogant. Neo Cons will be offended as the series pokes fun of Republicans, Hawks (Dondi Rice, anyone?) and not to mention a few conspiracy jabs here and there. Great homage to comics first Black Superhero and it's available on Netflix instant, well that and the silver surfer, Iron Man extremis, X-men: Gifted and some spider-woman motion comic. Check it out!

  • May 3, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    "He's no good to me dead."

    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    Whether he is in hell, oblivion or with all those 72 virgins or grapes or what have you (look up the muslim refusenik- she's awesome sauce)... We took the high ground in burying him according to his faith tradition but guess what? You still want to rally around his resting place? Really? Oh, but you'll have to get in a swimsuit or this: tinyurl.com/3ve3qnm Alan Grant, at least the comic writer, envied his own creation. Anarky was how he wished to have been at 16. The beef with the British government he cited was with having to pay for BBC channels. But you read that Anarky trade and it's the end that's truly important- Pay your own way and be responsible. Honestly, I think the end of any story is where its heart lies. Neither Grant's Anarky nor Sabatini's Scaramouche nor Takei's Shaman King are meant to be taken at face value- it's only a paperback model. But Shaman King has a number of cute girls in it, lol. I still have the heroclix of Jun Tao, lol.

  • May 3, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    hey_kobe

    by AsimovLives

    Let's not put all the jews in one sack, shall we? Let's not make them all into saints, right? Becasue form what i hacve learned form Israel's history, the conservative jews that so often govern the country are a bunch of lunatic motherfuckers. I have as much despise of them as i have for Al Qaeda muslin fanatics or american neo-con christian fundamentalists. By are all the same shit with different labels.

  • May 3, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST

    KOBE - DID YOU SEE THIS ARTICLE FROM JPOST YESTERDAY?

    by BSB

    Right worried Israel will pay price for bin Laden killing By GIL HOFFMAN 05/02/2011 21:39 MK Eldad: No doubt Obama is greater threat to Israel than Osama was Talkbacks (1) MKs and officials on the Right expressed concern on Monday that Israel would end up paying the price for the American decision to assassinate al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden. “Israel will need to take action to prevent Obama from appeasing the Muslim world at our expense,” National Union MK Aryeh Eldad said. “Bin Laden was never a direct threat to Israel. Ahmadinejad, Arafat and our other real enemies didn’t need bin Laden for inspiration. There is no doubt that Obama is a greater threat to Israel than Osama was.” Eldad predicted that the assassination would only boost Obama’s political support temporarily, and then his popularity would fall again due to the economy in the US, and other reasons. Deputy Negev and Galilee Development Minister Ayoub Kara (Likud) said “I am Israel’s sharpest critic of Obama, and I don’t want him to be in power, but I could tolerate Obama as long as he targets people like Osama. Obama in the past gave breathing space and support to the terrorists due to his naivete, but if he returns America to [former president George W.] Bush’s policies of fighting terror, I have no problem with him.” Likud MK Danny Dannon added that he hoped the American administration realized that the fight against terror was far from over. “I am worried about the festivities at Times Square and the White House, because we in Israel have learned the hard way that fighting terror requires a daily struggle and not just one knockout punch,” Dannon said. “The president should focus his energy on targeting terrorists who threaten the US and Israel – and not on an ill-fated attempt to implement an unrealistic Middle East peace plan based on wishful thinking.” ... Like Pakistan, it's baffling that we call Israel an "ally". That they would call Obama "a greater threat to Israel than Osama ever was" simply because he would put a stop to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan show how deranged these crazies are. Of course I don't lump the Israeli Left - those who actually petitioned for a Palestinian state and advocate for a peace deal - with them. But if Pakistan and Israel show anything, it's that our enemies are not necessarily those we're are hunting down, but to whom we are handing out billions of dollars in "aid" and protecting with the lives of our soldiers.

  • May 3, 2011, 12:06 p.m. CST

    emeraldboy

    by AsimovLives

    Having nuke sis not hard. The real bitch is to have a propultion system to carry them to a designated target. Be they bombers, submarines or most importantly, missiles. And it's in this where things get very difficult for countries which are not USA, Russia, UK, France, Japan, China or India. Only those have capacity to make missiles with nuclear bomb payloads capability. The rest has to buy them. and it's not easy. That's why no other countries except USA, Russia, UK and France have nukes.

  • Zionism 101

  • May 3, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    "BIN LADEN WAS NEVER A THREAT TO ISRAEL"

    by BSB

    "Obama is a greater threat to Israel than Osama was." “The president should focus his energy on targeting terrorists who threaten the US and Israel" Pretty much says it all about our "ally". Never mind that Osama Bin Laden is OUR enemy and murdered OUR citizens. That we killed the fucker is a bad thing in their eyes because of its repercussions to Israel.

  • And this should go double to all americans residing outside the US soil.

  • May 3, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    FUCK ALL YOU NEO-CON ASSHOLES!!!!!

    by JaredP

    obama got bin laden using accurate intelligence not using the bush dotrine, which would've meant dropping bombs on that compound. but hell your buddy bush never wanted him anyway he was friends with his family all his life suck on that one right-wingers

  • 'Cept around the U.S. of A. of course. Maybe it's time to see the Grand Canyon.

  • May 3, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    "You nkow what Bin Laden really was? A rich boy playing causes"

    by alexander

    "In the joint, Chill told me, uh, told me about the night he killed your parents. He said your father begged for mercy. Begged. Like a dog. Cowering behind your mother!" It will begin and rise again...

  • and only grudgingly later to Afghanistan. Permanent American occupation in Iraq was to provide a safe zone buffer between Israel and Iran, and keep Syria sandwiched and in check. The plot was to ensure that Israel's north was secured by American presence, where its eastern and western borders were controlled through puppet despots in Jordan and Egypt. Now, we see that plan crumbling to its core. You see, a nation that relies on war and aggression to ensure its continuity cannot possibly survive. Only through a peaceful negotiation can it stand a chance. Which is why the Israeli Left so adamantly support a unilateral declaration of statehood and intervention by the UN. It's because they correctly see their Rightwing brothers and sisters as the real danger to their nation's survival.

  • May 3, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    you said and i quote: "the conservative jews that so often govern the country are a bunch of lunatic motherfuckers. I have as much despise of them as i have for Al Qaeda muslin fanatics or american neo-con christian fundamentalists." so you equate and 'despise' lawfully elected albeit conservative Jews to fanatical muslims? you don't 'despise' the right wing governments of Saudi Arabia that stones women. To Pakistan - that stones women. Iran - that stones women. To Syria that kills it's own citizens by the busloads. To who the hell knows how many other right wing conservative Arab governments that pay for terrorists and that deny rights to its citizens and kill their women for having coffee in a public area with someone other than their husband, but you damn sure are quick to come to bsb's defense when he hates all Jews and you talk about some damn 'sack? yeah, right. i have never had anything to do or say to you because you hold no interest for me. you are a one note bore of the highest order, and more than likely are just a put-on anyway, because no one can be as asinine and monomaniacal for as long as you are without either a) be a total nutcase or b) being a total put on. so which is it? knowing you're history you will not answer a direct question so i expect no answer. but just realize that your own words damn you for what you are and what you believe try spreading some of the 'despise' around next time

  • May 3, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    LOL at Kobe's holier than thou attitude all of the sudden

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    Did you finally see the light, Kobes? You seem a new man. Just curious as to what's got into you. Is it that your favorite whipping boy, Subtitles_Off, is finally gone from this site for good? Inquiring minds want to know.

  • May 3, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Oh and Kobe's right about how many Muslim countries treat their women

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    Kobe should know something about treating women like crap.

  • May 3, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST

    You should know a thing or two about tired acts, Ryan

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

  • May 3, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    I am a Jew.

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    bsb is a well known hater of Jews on this site, documented by Docpaz, myself and others on numerous occasions. those who are so quick to come to his defense - ignoring his history because they find his act amusing or themselves are either Jew-haters or trolls of the highest order who think they have no choice but to stick together with their own ilk, well I lump in them same pile of excrement

  • Obama and his team has been building up to finding Bin Laden when he came into office. They placed both Bin Laden and Afghanistan back at the top of the list. Yes Bush can claim a small amount of credit but not much.

  • May 3, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST

    KOBE - COME TO MY DEFENSE?

    by BSB

    I don't need a defense, my Zionist friend. People are free to agree with me, or disagree, or not even give a shit at all. I just speak the truth plainly. A little too plainly for your and DocPazuzu's taste, it seems. Because everybody knows the truth is Zionism's greatest enemy. The jig is up, friend, and so is your ruse. You coward. You don't even have the most miniscule of balls to even talk to me. And we both know why. Because I devastate you with the truth. You can't deflect around me. You have no game with me. And what I said about DocPazuzu's lack of loyalty to America goes a thousandfold for you. I wish you would leave my country and live in the one you actually love.

  • May 3, 2011, 2:49 p.m. CST

    I meant "Dream"

    by The Founder

  • Will you finally talk to me?

  • Asi, you're clearly an expert on these matters. I'm rather surprised that someone of your formidable intelligence would even deign to post on this talkback, but I'm so happy you have chosen to do so. Please, as soon as you can, post more piercing insights such as the one I have quoted above. I'm thirsty for knowledge, and you're the just man to deliver. Thanks in advance.

  • May 3, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    You don't have to be anti-Semetic to criticize Israel

    by Dead_Kate_Moss

    Ask all the Jews worldwide who have bravely come to realise the way they act toward the Palestinians is inexcusable and causes the dangers they face. Meanwhile the US media always reports Israel as the poor victim (if they ever mention it at all) while it steals the last of the Palestinians land and resources and 99% of Americans have no idea that it is their govt's (military and economic) support of Israel that makes it 'hated' (not the people, the powers that be) by much of the world. That's why you were never allowed to hear Bin Laden's messages, because they drew attention to Israel. And as for this worrying that his death will make him a martyr or his grave would become a shrine - nothing like how the continuing situation in Israel or the continuing existence of Guantanamo Bay are agents of radicalism. Scream USA! USA! all you want, Bin Laden's not burning in Hell cos there's no such place. And if there is, you think God is going to think it was bad when he ordered the deaths of innocent civilians but it's fine when the US does it? Ha.

  • Election is still gonna be defined by the economy and the Death of Bin Laden.

  • If their was a republican president in office and the circumstances we face now as a country that said president and the rest of the republicans would ride the hell outta this victory and milk it for everything it's got. Unfortunately the Dems aren't good at this and it's why it'll be forgotten in a month

  • May 3, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by m2298

    Do you suggest a peace treaty with a unity Fatah-Hamas government? Any comment on http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hamas-slams-killing-of-holy-warrior-osama-bin-laden-1.359416 "and only grudgingly later to Afghanistan" We went to Afghanistan on October 7, 2001. The Iraq invasion was on March 20, 2003.

  • May 3, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    M2298

    by BSB

    Oh my bad about Afghanistan. Compared to the number of forces we sent to Iraq - at Israel's prodding - you can understand my confusion. And of course Hamas slams the killing of Bin Laden. So does rightwing Israelis. You should both get fucked.

  • May 3, 2011, 3:15 p.m. CST

    "A series of questions to start: "

    by DocPazuzu

    No. Don't even think you can get out of this that easily, cocksucker. Here's how it's going to be: <p> Since you threw out a blanket statement about Americans living abroad, the weight of proof is on YOU. You have drawn conclusions about my socio-cultural and/or religious/racial background based on one thing and one thing only. If there is any intellectual courage that can mustered at all from those shriveled little balls of yours, you'll list exactly what makes an expatriate American "loyal" and what makes him "disloyal". I'm sure a lot of the expatriate Americans on these boards would like to know what makes them traitors or not. You and I both know that it's a matter of ethnic profiling on your part based on bigoted conclusions. <p> Once you answer my question (which was put to you first) I'll answer yours. Now dance for us, bitch.

  • May 3, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    I seriously disagree that this won't help Obama

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    It takes the one strong point Republicans could always rely on away from them: strong on defense. Especially, given the current pathetic pool of candidates. "Oh, what did you ever do to defend the country, Huckabee? I caught Bin Laden!" As far as the economy goes, the Republicans were the ones who drove the economy into the ground. There was a surplus in the Federal Budget when Clinton left office. The only person I can see seriously competing with Obama when it comes to the economy is Romney and Romney is a serious flip flopper. He makes Kerry look lke a pair of Crocs in comparison. Plus, I find it difficult to imagine the Tea Baggers getting behind a Mormon, who was pro choice before he was against it and who created Obamacare in his state of Massachusetts before there even was an Obama. "Oh, and I got Osama Bin Laden. what did you do to protect the country, Mitt?!"

  • May 3, 2011, 3:26 p.m. CST

    DOCPAZUZU - "NOW DANCE FOR US, BITCH."

    by BSB

    You wish. Since you're the one who brings up 'anti-semitism' even when Israel is not brought up at all, and from your perch in Sweden of all places, clearly you're the one who's in need of proving that you're even faintly 'American'. Dance? LOL. Nice try.

  • May 3, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    DOCPAZUZU

    by BSB

    Funny, I've found no other expatriate on these boards to even hint that their loyalty to their country is questionable. Only yours. Nice try deflecting.

  • May 3, 2011, 3:31 p.m. CST

    OBAMA HAS A SOLID YEAR TO TURN VOTERS LIKE ME AROUND

    by BSB

    This is a nice start indeed.

  • May 3, 2011, 3:35 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by m2298

    What is your source for documentation that Israel gave some sort of order to Bush to invade Iraq? Being a neocon, I guess Feith is a Zionist deceiver and all, but for the record: http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3542925,00.html

  • Carter was right to compare how the Israelis treat the Palestinians to Apartheid and yet he caught all kinds of crap for it.

  • May 3, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    M2298

    by BSB

    Enjoy the smorgasbord. http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqmiddleeast2000-1997.htm

  • May 3, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    TRUE THAT, CHOPPAH

    by BSB

    Hell, you can't even be a Jew and criticize Israel without being called self-loather, traitor, etc. This, DocPazuzu is okay with?

  • May 3, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST

    M2298

    by BSB

    You've always supported democracy in the Middle East. How do you feel about Egypt's situation?

  • If he showed up, he may BE the BBQ.

  • bsb hates Jews. hates them. that is not a discussion point. it is a fact proven over and over by his own words. he sometimes couches his hatred with the word 'zionism', but more often than not it is just straight up hatred of Jews regardless political affiliation. and some of you dumbasses choose to look the other way. yeah you will bitch and moan about someone hating your favorite movie, or actor. you will bitch about conservatives. you will bitch about harry and his site that you can't stay the hell away from. bitch about someone insulting gays - although letting that onslaught of asimovs where he used the 'f' word relentlessly then tried to backpedal, go unanswered. but hating on Jews? no you bitches just ignore that and say 'oh woe why cant we have a discussion that does not...' bullshit. your shit. sniff it and shut defuck up Israel is not a discussion point because bsb hates all Jews and thinks that the Jewish State is illegal. some of you apologists and asskissers only care about trying to be clever or kissing the ass of someone you think is. discussion?

  • May 3, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST

    The self hating jews who give bsb cover. This types exist in every race and ethnic group

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    and they are the only ones that bsb ever supports or quotes or holds up as an example of the type of Jew he likes. Peter David and I had a spirited exchange in a TB, that bsb participated in as well, docpaz was there too. bsb was exposed over and over for his hatred. this is not new and not news but it is always ignored by the asskissers and apologists

  • May 3, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    braindrain - move to lichtenstein

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

  • May 3, 2011, 4:07 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by m2298

    I don't see any smoking gun, where Israel told any of these writers (or future Bush adminstration members) to do anything. Believe it or not, not every supporter of Israel -- right , left or center is taking orders from omeone else.

  • May 3, 2011, 4:09 p.m. CST

    remember when the neocons were talking about how Obama's

    by crazybubba

    so-called lack of experience would hurt the country? so much for that theory! that being said I think 2012 will be defined by the economy by the Republican list of candidates is so weak that I really like our leaders chances for re-election

  • May 3, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Egypt

    by m2298

    Everything concerning that country is pretty much up in the air. I hope that any future government is open, Western-minded and will keep parties like Hamas, Iran, etc. as far away as posible. The end of the Israe-Egypt peace will not benefit anyone except extremists.

  • May 3, 2011, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Obama is the proverbial stopped clock...

    by Darth_Inedible

    The guy campaigned on dismantling everything that directly led to Bin Laden's capture; Gitmo, advanced inter, JSOC "assasination teams"... But because hopey changey was sitting in the big chair when all the pieces fell into place he gets credit.

  • May 3, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by DocPazuzu

    I suppose the irony of you refusing to answer my questions and then accusing me of attempted "deflection" is completely lost on you. <p> Show me one single instance in my nine years of coming to AICN where I have ever even used the term "self-hating Jew". Show me one single instance where I have said I believe in anything but a two-state solution and that the Israelis must abandon the West Bank. Show me one single instance where I have said that Israel should enjoy any kind of exceptional status. <p> I have never been banned here so everything I've ever typed on the subject should still be searchable. Put your fucking money where your scurvy-gummed mouth is for once, you malignant prick. <p> Oh, and for your information, for the majority of the time over the past few years when I've been crushing you on these boards, I've been living stateside. Oops. <p> Furthermore, with you it's not about Israel. You're a true anti-Semite (and have been banned for it earlier) who believes the number of Holocaust dead has been exaggerated "by millions", as you yourself put it. <p> "Deflecting"... Bitch, please....

  • May 3, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Well I'm not on record as 'hating all Jews'

    by Dead_Kate_Moss

    .. so the discussion about whether US support and cover for Israel is one of the main reasons for anti-American feeling is not moot now is it? And I'm not only interested in apportioning blame - if there was real pressure on Israel to come up with a FAIR deal with the Palestinians, it would lead to a much more peaceful world and only piss off those Israelis who insist in living in occupied territory just to fuck off the Palestinians they bulldozed the homes of, and the wacko fundamentalists who think Israel being 100% Jewish leads to the Rapture. I'm as sick of the Middle-East leading to so many problems as anyone, but the main solution is to fix Israel.

  • May 3, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST

    hey_kobe

    by AsimovLives

    I despise euqally all extreme right winger conservatives whose powerbase is based on extreme fundamentalist religion, regardless of their ethnicity, religion, whateverthefuck. Your precious extreme fundamentalist rightwinger jews in Israel are the same shit as other right winger religious extremists elsewhere. You see the differences, i see the similiaritudes. And it's all the same shit. Ther'es not a single wrong in this world that cannot be traced back directly to the actions of extreme right wingers religious extremists, be they democratic elected or not. They are the cancer of mankind.

  • May 3, 2011, 4:25 p.m. CST

    asimovlives

    by DocPazuzu

    Nice of you to demonstrate to all of us exactly how you prioritize things in life. You once said it was perfectly okay to "hate" people who didn't share your taste in movies, yet you have no problem having a civilized conversation with a bigoted, Holocaust revisionist cunt like BSB. <p> You're a real winner.

  • May 3, 2011, 4:25 p.m. CST

    not only was hopey changey sitting in the big seat

    by crazybubba

    when it happened he made some of the tough calls regarding how to carry out the operation like sending SEAL's in instead of bombing. He did what he said he would do and didn't take his eye off the ball in order to greedily exploit the oil in Iraq over false claims of WMD's. Maybe now we truly closer to saying "Mission Accomplished"

  • May 3, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    hey_kobe, you are a jew. So?

    by AsimovLives

    I'm a portuguese from the south part of my country, which means that most certainly i alos have jewish blood in me too, from the Marranos (look it up). Should i get a medal or soemthing? As a portuguese from the south, it also means i have as my ancestors people like arabs, beduins, slavic, visigoths, romans, celtiberians, carthaginians, celts, god knows what else more. And i'm so damn proud of it.

  • May 3, 2011, 4:31 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    just like you tried to backpedal after hurling the 'f' word around and pretending you were not talking about homosexuals, you are now trying again to backpedal. but you are the one who equated lawfully elected Jewish governments -not to right wing Arab governments - elected or otherwise, but to a group of murdering arab terrorists terrorists who have killed thousands of Americans and citizens of other countries 'this 'put on' of yours has you coming from Portugal', you very well may be portuguese or of its descent, so how about some condemnation of past policies that colonized and enslaved innocents? how about some condemnation of current policies that names portugal one of the most corrupt governments on the planet? and just who is governing portugal these days? how about that prosperity?

  • May 3, 2011, 4:33 p.m. CST

    stargate sucks

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

  • May 3, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Um, [dioxholster]...

    by UltimaRex

    There already IS a Stargate movie. That's how it all started remember?

  • Jews are no better or worse. So it is no surprise that we have Jews who hate their race. but just because Jews may disagree with one another does not make them self hating. it is only when you despise your own race and give cover to those seeking to rewrite history- especially where it regards the Holocaust, that then, yes you are the self-hating type

  • May 3, 2011, 4:55 p.m. CST

    dead_kate_moss

    by m2298

    Groups like Hamas (now part of a possible Palestinian unity overnment) reject Israel's existence in both pre and post 1967 gained areas. Will they disappear?

  • May 3, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    dead kate

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    there can be no discussion with those who do not know history. people who display their lack of knowledge with their every word, and yes i am talking about you. when you learn the history of the founding of Israel of the wars it fought before and during it's re-birth, of being surrounded by enemies on all sides and left to fend for itself for decades before America ever gave open support. for the terms of the mandate that only allowed the formation based upon Israel being able to fight and defend itself because no help would be coming. to being a sovereign nation that has a right to exist and defend itself, that yes has made mistakes, serious mistakes, but at the very end can only ever rely on, and do everything in it's power to lawfully defend itself -as any nation should do, then maybe we can have a discussion. otherwise you simply betray your prejudices -go ahead and reread your last post - if you find nothing objectionable in it, then we have nothing to discuss

  • May 3, 2011, 5:42 p.m. CST

    m2298 they are more likely to go away yes

    by Dead_Kate_Moss

    They get power from the grievances of Palestinians. Fix Israel and less dogmatic parties will be voted for. I don't know why Americans can't understand that if they were Palestinian they would vote for a party that opposed their oppressors - although I do understand that many Americans are fooled by the lies that Israel has 'bent over backwards' and the Palestinians are never satisfied.

  • May 3, 2011, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Jews ride horses too

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

  • May 3, 2011, 6 p.m. CST

    LMFAO

    by BSB

    If you guys don't prove that Zionism is a mental disorder, nothing will.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST

    dead kate moss

    by m2298

    By "fixing" Israel, I assume that you mean to force it out of the post 1967 lands (including Jerusalem). Does it include the return of the 1948 refugees to Israel proper? Does Hezbollah in Lebanon which has thousands of missles pointed at Israeli cities figure into this at all? Will they "go away" just because Israel is no longer a presence in the West Bank and Gaza?

  • May 3, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    this is the three part superlative bafta winning documentary

    by emeraldboy

    called the power of nightmares. part one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeujTZlLaPY part two http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZQd84KzfbM part three http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HvzR8w1z2g

  • May 3, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    m2298 so,e sort of deal that Palestinians find acceptable

    by Dead_Kate_Moss

    Such as returning the occupied territories and a less 'apartheid-y' system. It's not for me to spell out the exact parameters, and the answer to all your questions is that it won't be easy but peace is possible, always. Maybe it's too late now, maybe they are destined to be bitter enemies for generations... no one can turn back the clock. But better to be on the side of making things better though, not supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:19 p.m. CST

    by m2298

    Most sane Zionists probably wouldn't spend hours around the clock in the AICN talkback in the first place.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST

    INDEED, KATE

    by BSB

    It really is not for any of us to work out the peace deal. It's up to the Israelis and Palestinians, to deal in good faith. Radical elements on both sides do everything they can to prevent that from happening. But since Israel is the dominant side, they bear the greater responsibility of making it happen. They are in the position - and have the moral duty - to give up what was taken. Yet each day they take more.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    this is his follow up called the trap

    by emeraldboy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7QtzHjj-bg part two http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMup8qJ4gNg&NR=1 part three http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjClUET-7r0&feature=related part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YRIbbTDApc&feature=related Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YRIbbTDApc&feature=related part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YRIbbTDApc&feature=related

  • May 3, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST

    dead_kate_moss

    by m2298

    I assume the Palestinian state will not be ''apartheid-y' as well. Every plan I've seen involves the removal of all Jews from their state.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST

    M2298 MADE A FUNNY

    by BSB

    *Faints*

  • May 3, 2011, 6:36 p.m. CST

    M2298 MADE A FUNNY

    by BSB

    *Faints*

  • May 3, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by m2298

    The evacuation of Israelis from Gaza didn't exactly make things more peaceful? It would be nice if the Syrian (and Iranian!) governments would be replaced. I think that Israelis would moderate their policies if these fviolent entities bent on their destruction would go away.

  • May 3, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    M2298

    by BSB

    "It would be nice if the Syrian (and Iranian!) governments would be replaced." In line with Dead_Kate's argument, that could very well happen if Israel's government were replaced first. Committing democide against the Palestinians - and all the atrocities that entails - provides a crutch for those who oppose Israel's existence in principle. Treat the Palestinians as human beings, morally, and you take away that crutch. I am reminded of a quote by the lovely Christopher Hitchens, whose views on Israel I adhere very much to - and it goes a lil' sumpin' like this: "One of my first reservations about Zionism was and is that, semi-consciously at least, it grants the anti-semite's first premise about the abnormality of the Jew." He also said of the concept of Israel, "A Jew born in Brooklyn has the right to a state in Jerusalem, but why shouldn't a Palestinian born in Jerusalem have the right to his own state?" Indeed, it made me ponder the issue quite a lot.

  • For the umpteenth time, you *saying* you 'crush' me doesn't mean you actually do. We all humor you when you make these little proclamations of pwnage, but don't test us. "... I've been living stateside." Proof, please.

  • May 3, 2011, 7:58 p.m. CST

    OBAMA DESERVES CREDIT

    by Immortal_Fish

    Our president gave the final order. The final decision was left to him and he made the right one. I am elated to know that he did the right thing. But I am much more grateful for the efforts of my brothers who's boots were on the ground; now, before, and after. I'm late to this party, and as events have shaped up... It appears that this mission was a success DESPITE Obama's efforts, sadly. Not unlike the uptick in oil production for 2010, it was DESPITE his efforts. By now, you've heard how the intelligence was derived, so I will not bore you with more of that. GITMO remains open, rendition ends up to have worked, Secretary Gates remains part of it, and the low end of McChrystal's requested troop level was sufficient, proving that you can "go to war with the army you have" as Rumsfeld was criticized for saying. I fail to see how this spells Owebama's clinch for reelection. But I am a conservative. Of course I'd see it this way. Much of what our president campaigned against ended up playing part in what saw this victory thru. And the vigilant American people are watching and are wise to the admin's wiles. The liberals sickened with the whole 'mission accomplished' affair are now rejoicing not unlike the celebration in the streets of the Itamar Jewish Family. What happens once word gets out that Atty Gen. Eric "the ball" Holder has gone after the CIA agents responsible for furnishing the intelligence that led to OBL's demise over the last year? If you are a liberal reading this, have you considered this angle? What now? Just give up and hope it goes unnoticed like the KSM trial in NYC?

  • May 3, 2011, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Why Did It Take 10 Years To Get Osama Bin Laden

    by atan0669

    He originally was hiding in a cave located in a remote tribal region of Donald Trump's hair.

  • May 3, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    they can't let him even have THIS!!!!!!

    by JaredP

    fucking republicans and neocons can't even let obama have his victory over bin laden they have to claim bushs torture tactics were the key in finding the turd

  • that you want your guy in the WH to get all of the credit and not give any to everyone else who made it possible? Obama spent 4 years campaigning and being President saying that he was against the tactics Bush/Cheney used. He even tried to prosecute the very CIA Interrogators that got this information from the terrorists. Well, guess what, bin Laden would STILL be alive if not for the policies put in place by Bush and Cheney. If Obama had his way and the terrorists were arrested, Mirandized, and given lawyers, we NEVER would have gotten bin Laden. But, after years of hearing Lefties cry about getting water on Khalid Sheik Mohammed's head, it sure is funny to now see how happy you are and consider it a victory to put a bullet through the head of an unarmed Osama bin Laden...

  • right now and would be Mirandized. Up until 2 months ago, Obama was STILL planning on having a trial for Khalid Sheik Mohammed in NYCity. Liberals really are dishonest hypocrites, pretty much 100% of the time any more. Anything your guy does is the right thing to do, isn't it? Just 2 years ago, every single Bush policy on terror was immoral and EVIL!!! Now, all of a sudden, it's OK to put a bullet through someones head without a trial. However, it's NOT OK to pour water on the guy who actually planned the 9/11 attacks. Just a question, do you think Osama would rather have been waterboarded or shot in the head? PS-The moral of the story is, you can't be "outraged" by something for the last 10 years, and then expect universal praise when you benefit from the programs you've been condemning. It doesn't work that way. If you are going to be consistent, then Obama is now a War Criminal, too. He invaded a sovereign country we are NOT at war with, murdered an uncharged, unarmed man, and did it unillaterally WITHOUT UN approval...

  • Obama has stayed true to what he said he would do. 9/11 happened eight months into Bush presidency. Osama was whacked two years plus into Obama's presidency. So does bush get blame for 9/11 and credit for osama's death, or is Bush absolved for 9/11 and gets credit for osama's death? or none of the above? Someone deserves credit. Someone who said they would pursue into Pakistan while others said it was too dangerous. Gee, i wonder who that was?

  • May 3, 2011, 9:57 p.m. CST

    There has been some serious smackdown in this TB

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    Makes the amoeba reevaluate some positions held on some TB'ers. Very revelatory. Must not judge a TB'er by his name

  • May 3, 2011, 10:01 p.m. CST

    First of all, that was only Obama's position during the debates

    by Coughlins Laws

    Look up the things he's said while a Senator. Second of all, look what he tried to do with the guy who actually planned the 9/11 attacks. He tried to have him put on trial in New York City. Are you trying to tell me you don't remember the last 2 years of Obama's Presidency? You don't remember Obama and Holder wanting to prosecute the CIA Interrogators that got this information for us? You don't remember Holder wanting to prosecute the Navy Seals that captured an al Qaeda operative last year and gave him a fat lip? I'm looking at his actions. This information was given to him that they knew where Osama was for 16 hours before he made a decision. Bush waited 7 minutes after 9/11 and liberals freaked out. Obama, on the other hand, gave Osama 16 extra hours to change locations. The point is, the information that we got that lead us to bin Laden was gotten through waterboarding, Obama is against waterboarding, Therefore, if Obama got his way, we'd never know where Osama bin Laden was. This is 100% undisputed FACT!!!

  • May 3, 2011, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Wow, Lost Jarv made an appearance on AICN!

    by D.Vader

    When was the last time? 2 years ago?

  • Bush deserves credit, too. And Obama deserves credit for being a liar and continuing Bush's programs, despite promising in his campaigning for 2 years AGAINST all of Bush's programs.

  • You are twisting yourself in knots trying not to give Obama credit for doing exactly what he said he would do. Going into Pakistan to kill Bin laden when the Republican candidate said that would be too dangerous and reckless. I recall no trials or hearings. I recall talk of such, but there is talk about Bush being behind 9/11. Neither was so or happened. As for the 16 hours? Well that makes no sense, The intelligence came across his desk back in August, but it took this long to confirm it -and even then it was not a 100% confirmation. Huge debate within CIA if it should be done. Far too many memories of failed Carter admin plan in Iran. Obama displayed serious testicular fortitude in greenlighting this attack, as opposed to just bombing or worse, just walking away - like McCain would have done.

  • May 3, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Lost Jarv?

    by Dirk_The_Amoeba

    Well dingy dingy do! British TB'er 'Royalty' has graced us. Some (and they know who they are) are not worthy. I saw Toadkillerdog on here a few months ago and damn near died. But he did not stick around long enough to say hello.

  • May 3, 2011, 10:52 p.m. CST

    And Dirk!

    by D.Vader

    Damn its like a reunion in here. Only politics and Coughlins Law could make it happen.

  • May 4, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST

    coughlin is a lying ass BITCH!!

    by Oprah_Duke

    Waterboarding didn't give us any good info on Osama and Standard Interrorgation got us to Osama's Million dollar pad. <p> In reference to Bin Laden, your boy Bush said "I'm not concerned with him. He's marginalized and there's no need to go after him anymore, if he's even alive." during his 2006 press conference. Youtube is a bitch ain't it?? <p> There's more, but a quick google search exposes your bullshit is less than 60 seconds. (Type "Bush: Truly not concerned with Obama" in youtube search engine)<p> I'm not a fan of Obama's ass either, but he did his fucking thing while Bush was being str8 pussy!! <p> Give a black man his fucking props and tell your boy Bush to eat a dick!! <p> America - Fuck Yeah!!

  • May 4, 2011, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Bush: Truly not concerned with Osama

    by Oprah_Duke

    Not Obama. Damn I took an "L" on that one.

  • May 4, 2011, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Cheers Dirk and D.Vader

    by Lost Jarv

    Reading this malignant and repugnant thread has reminded me why I stopped coming here.

  • May 4, 2011, 4:52 a.m. CST

    Asimov

    by Lost Jarv

    Listen, goatfucker. It's bad enough you pontificate about films- which only serves to illustrate both your crushing ignorance and astronomically overinflated sense of self-worth- but now to talk about any form of politics is really beyond the pale. You are an educationally subnormal psued, and if you spent less time attempting to insert your pointy fucking dome up the rectum of your favourite member of your woolly flock then you might, someday, be worth a fraction of the bandwidth you squander on cretinous and ill founded opinions. Jesus suffering fuck, I've not encountered such blithering stupidity and wilful ignorance in a fuck of a long time.

  • and it's a fucking disgrace. Seriously, this format is an epic failure and an embarrassment. I honestly hope you didn't pay for it, Harry. <p>Although the post that started this vile thread is so fucking stupid I wouldn't be surprised. In which case, I've got a bridge in London to sell you.

  • hours after 9/11 bush ordered that all aeroplanes were to be grounded as all intel indicated that another attack was imminent. why was a plane carrying thirteen of bin ladens family members given clearance to travel?

  • May 4, 2011, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Jesus Christ Emeraldboy

    by Lost Jarv

    Don't rip that scab open again. If I had to take a stab at this one, it's because the Saudi's spilled some money into Bush's bank account.

  • May 4, 2011, 6:55 a.m. CST

    under the blair era london was called

    by emeraldboy

    londonistan. radical islam was rife under bliars nose and he didnt do a damn thing about it. in fact after 7/7 blair courted muslim votes. channel 4 did a powerful documentary about how radical versions of the koran were being shipped in and out of the uk and under the uk authorities noses. that documentary was the subject of a botched police investigation and court action, which channel 4 won. that documentary featured an american born muslim cleric who preached hate against, jews, gays, women and called for england to become an islamic state amongst other things and for tony blair to excuted for war crimes.

  • May 4, 2011, 7:55 a.m. CST

    "londonistan"

    by Lost Jarv

    Rubbish. I've lived here for ages, and the first time that term came up was after 7/7. Leaving aside the Labour Party's idiotic policies on mass immigration etc, this is scaremongering bollocks of the highest order.

  • May 4, 2011, 8:34 a.m. CST

    bsb

    by m2298

    Which government is easier to change, that of Israel or Syria and Iran? I guarantee that when Israelis see funding to Bin Laden admiring Hamas (soon to be part of a Palestinian unity government) and Hezbollah cut off by Syria and Iran they will be much more inclined to elect a more left-leaning government in their next democratic election.

  • May 4, 2011, 8:52 a.m. CST

    All we ever hear of are the threats to Israel

    by Dead_Kate_Moss

    None of which justify the bulldozing of Palestinian homes and the ongoing land grabs and dehumanizing treatment dished out daily to the people who were, you know, living right there before Israel was created. 'But what about Iran' = Non sequitur.

  • May 4, 2011, 10:25 a.m. CST

    You either believe that God gave the land of Israel to the Jews or you do not

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    And if you believe in "Holy Land" and that it belongs to the Jews because it belonged to them 1000s of years ago, then by that logic you should believe that we should give America back to the Native Americans.

  • May 4, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    M2298

    by BSB

    Although certainly plausible, you can't guarantee that. Right-wingers would make the case that it was their being in charge that led to a change in Syria and Iran's governments - be it true or not. I frankly think that a freely elected government, and in this case Israel's, is the easier one to change.

  • May 4, 2011, 10:32 a.m. CST

    IT'S LIKE OTIS SAID ...

    by BSB

    "Land ..."

  • May 4, 2011, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Oh, that's right, I forgot about Manifest Destiny

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    God gave the European Christians the right to commit genocide on the Native Americans and steal their land. Silly me.

  • May 4, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST

    dead kate moss

    by m2298

    Depends which news source. There is plenty of coverage in UK: Guardian, Independent and to a lesser extent in the US: NY Times, Washington Post etc.

  • May 4, 2011, 10:45 a.m. CST

    bsb

    by m2298

    "I frankly think that a freely elected government, and in this case Israel's, is the easier one to change" Specifically, how?

  • May 4, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST

    choppah

    by m2298

    And thus...?

  • May 4, 2011, 10:48 a.m. CST

    M2298

    by BSB

    That's a pretty self-evident statement. Syria is ruled by a dictator and Iran by a fraudulently elected President and Ayatollah. How, in contrast, is Israel's government more difficult to change?

  • Unfortunately, a lot of people don't see that as a bad thing.

  • May 4, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    bsb

    by m2298

    Well, convince the Israeli voters.

  • May 4, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Christopher Hitchens is a class A dickhead.

    by Lost Jarv

    Only slightly less of a dickhead than his foul brother.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Stop being a dick as well

    by Lost Jarv

    How is it your business to effect regime change on a democratically elected government? And, brilliantly, the democratically elected government rather than the despotic tyranny is the one that you want to change because it's easier. Where the hell does this end?

  • May 4, 2011, 11:02 a.m. CST

    M2298

    by BSB

    They're about to convince themselves. This Arab Spring business is a game changer of epic proportions.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Oh, and before you call me a zionist

    by Lost Jarv

    I have no particular axe to grind regarding Israel. However, to advocate regime change of the more moderate state on the grounds of ease is frankly ludicrous. Furthermore, how do you propose that this is achieved? Invasion? Because that's worked so well the last few times.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    JARV

    by BSB

    I think you misread me. Where did I say effect regime change? I'm basically saying Israel ought to elect a Left-leaning government rather than a Right (hence the change in government) in order to change its aggressive policies vis-a-vis the Palestinians.

  • The fuck it is. Let's see how this plays out. My money is on "about as well as The Prague Spring did". Also, he may be eloquent, but that's neither here nor there. He's a psued, a fraud and a hypocritical self-serving dickhead. However, he's infinitely better than his Wormtongue-esque sibling.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Let me recheck that.

    by Lost Jarv

  • May 4, 2011, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Misread you, because I missed the original post.

    by Lost Jarv

    Stupid AICN format.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Shite. Apologies- that's the point.

    by Lost Jarv

  • May 4, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST

    M2298

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    What the Jews did to the Palestinians is very similar to what the European Christians did to the Native Americans. And both were done in the name of Divine Right.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST

    I still disagree with Hitchens' position on the Iraq War

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    And it is interesting that he took the pro-War position that he did given that Hitchens hates religious fundamentalism and Iraq under Saddam was one of the most secular countries in the Arab World.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    NO PROBLEM, JARV

    by BSB

    And this Arab Spring business is playing out in hyperspeed. It seems like just yesterday that Mubarek was ousted. Today, Egypt is brokering the unity pact between Fatah and Hamas, and opening its borders to Gaza. The reliance that Israel has had on Mubarek maintaining control in that region is completely gone. Not to mention Egypt granting Iran access of warships through the Suez. And also not to mention the Muslim Brotherhood looking to gain significant power in Egypt's new government. Okay, I'm mentioning quite a lot. It's because the changes are swift and fairly radical. Which is why, in my opinion, Israel must alter its aggressive policies and pursue meaningful dialogue with the Palestinians in order to secure peace. I don't care if they have to work alongside people they find unsavory, at this point there is no alternative. Change has come to their doorstep and it's a veritable rhino.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST

    obvioulsy lost jarv you never heard...

    by emeraldboy

    of abu hamza and mohammad bakri both of whom recruited hunderds of young british muslims to bin ladens cause. abu hamza had a direct link to bin laden and was considered a threat but lived in the uk, in london on state welfare all the while he was rallying young muslims to bin ladens cause, the blair govt could have deported him at any time but for some reason did not. in the end they deported him back to jordan. oh and the term londonistan is from the security services. because people like abu hamza and bakri after recruiting young alienated muslims sent them to pakistan and afghanistan to train in training camps with al quaida operatives.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    choppah

    by m2298

    You first compared Jews to the Indians, and then to the colonial invaders. Try to keep your analogies consistent.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:31 a.m. CST

    CHOPPAH

    by BSB

    I don't think Hitchens took religion into account. I believe that he supported the removal of a despot on humanitarian grounds, much like what Obama is presumed to be doing in Libya.

  • Just below the main article, to help you view the whole talkback without clicking each post. I'm guessing that's what you're doing?

  • May 4, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST

    m2298

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    I did not compare Jews to Native Americans. I said that people who are supportive of Israel believe that the land belongs to the Jews because it did 1000s of years ago. By that logic, America should give the land back to the Native Americans. I don't believe that the Jews are entitled to that land. But, people that do certainly would not be supportive of giving America back to the natives and yet that in essence is what they are supporting in Israel.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST

    BSB, the irony is that the American freeing of the Iraq from Saddam

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    and all this democracy in the Arab World seems to be leading to more Muslim theocracies. And that doesn't bode well for Israel. I think that is what you're saying?

  • May 4, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    CHOPPAH

    by BSB

    Pretty much. I think these countries have to be taken on a case by case basis though. In Egypt, Israel benefited from ties to their despots Mubarek and Suleiman. So a political transformation presents a clear challenge to Israel. Egypt could cripple Israel by raising natural gas prices to a prohibitive scale, or even cut off the supply entirely. They would have plenty of alternative customers. A regime change in Iran, in contrast I believe, would be beneficial to Israel. Firstly, it's already a theocracy and change would mean moving towards a more secular society. Geographically Iran is farther removed from Israel, and its populace is more concerned about economic improvement than jihad. But considering the iron hand that rules Persia, I don't see this happening.

  • May 4, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST

    bsb

    by m2298

    Hamas is more than just 'unsavory'. They very clearly wish to see Israel eliminated. This is not a 'neocon' conceit; Obama and the Israeli Labor Party understand this as well.

  • May 4, 2011, 12:06 p.m. CST

    M2298

    by BSB

    I think you are looking at Hamas as a static entity, unable or unwilling to change. But this reconciliation with Fatah demonstrates that they are changing. There is an uprising in Syria and their reliance on Assad as a benefactor is shaky, to say the least. Again, owing to this Arab Spring effect. So they are moving towards a pact with Fatah at Egypt's urging. Do you disagree that, potentially, Fatah and Egypt can have a moderating effect on Hamas? That would be a good thing for Israel, right? But if Israel refuses to negotiate - meaningfully - with the Palestinians, then that will have the effect of giving Hamas the upperhand in that alliance.

  • May 4, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST

    ARAB SPRING

    by BSB

    Gets you clean as a Muslim!

  • May 4, 2011, 12:20 p.m. CST

    UM, IN CASE NOBODY GOT THAT

    by BSB

    It's a take on the Irish Spring slogan ...

  • May 4, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by m2298

    Thats assuming Egypt itself stays moderate. Where that country will end up is anyone's guess right now.

  • May 4, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST

    M2298

    by BSB

    Agreed. The future in this region is - and this is as under as a statement can get - completely unpredictable.

  • May 4, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    BSB: talkback fail king.

    by DocPazuzu

    "Proof, please. " <p> Jesus Christ what an idiotic statement for anyone to make, even you, BSB. What -- if I don't give you my real name so you can check the records of where I lived at the time you'll call me a Zionist liar? Wow, talk about a watertight plan. <p> As for crushed, well, let's see.... <p> 1) being asked pointed questions and refusing to answer them. <p> 2) being called on obviously ethnic profiling statements and refusing to acknowledge it. <p> 3) being challenged to provide one single shred of evidence in the entire body of TB records which supports a single thing you've said about me, and failing to do so. <p> Yep, in any debate that would qualify as being crushed. <p> Here, on the other hand, is TB proof of among other things, your Holocaust revisionism: <p> www.aintitcool.com/node/48928

  • May 4, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    INTERESTING ARTICLE TODAY

    by BSB

    This Sefi cat must be reading our talkback, LOL. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/israel-must-choose-between-peace-and-a-racist-state-1.359742 Israel must choose between peace and a racist state Netanyahu needs to face a simple, clear-cut question: Do you want a democratic state based on the 1967 borders, or not? By Sefi Rachlevsky The slogan that brought Benjamin Netanyahu to power was "making a secure peace." That is no accident. "Peace" has maintained the right-wing government to a much greater extent than the right-wing government has maintained peace. The reason for this is simple. When "peace" is at issue, the domestic debate is diverted to the image of the "other," the one with whom peace should or should not be made. From there, the road is short in Israel to governmental scorn for the weakness of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and for assertions, like those of Netanyahu, that Hamas is a continuation of the Nazis. But the cyclical Israeli calendar, which moves from "Holocaust" to "Independence," reminds us of what ought to have been self-evident. There is one question that must precede the question of "peace" - a question that constitutes the essence of independence and formed the basis of the Zionist revolution: What does Israel want? Not for nothing is that question ignored by the government. For when you ask what Israel wants, the requisite answer is clear: a state based on the borders in which it achieved independence, known today as the 1967 borders; a democratic state in which all are equal, as described in the Declaration of Independence. This answer is dangerous to the right, because most Israelis still support it and it is also accepted internationally. Moreover, it has potency in any situation, even when all eyes are made to look outward, on relations between Fatah and Hamas. If Defense Minister Ehud Barak is right that Hamas capitulated to Fatah, the way is open for a successful implementation of a two-state solution based on the 1967 lines. And if the opposite is true, an Israel that has chosen a democratic state in the 1967 borders has a wealth of available options that would enable it to look out for itself with widespread international support. But the question of what Israel wants has a second possible answer: Israel wants a racist messianic state, one in which Jews are citizens and non-Jews are subjects. This second answer is not fantastic. In essence, this has been the Israeli reality for 44 years already. In the territories, and also in Jerusalem, Jews are citizens and non-Jews aren't. Just this week, the science minister (! ) presented an award to Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu at a ceremony in which the latter advocated cleansing Safed of Arabs. Barak, an adherent of the method of verbal misdirection used to enable special-forces operations, dragged "the Third Way" out of storage to be the platform of his Atzmaut party. But Barak knows better than anyone that there is no third way. In special operations, in business and in policy alike, the decision is simple and clear: yes or no. Either Israel wants a state based on the promises of its Declaration of Independence, or it doesn't. To flee this simple truth, former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir (Likud ) invented what his staffers termed the "teaspoon" policy at the 1991 Madrid Conference: endless negotiating sessions at which mountains of sugar would be stirred into oceans of tea and coffee, but no agreement would ever be reached. Netanyahu has perfected this method, which enables him to keep stirring sugar into the negotiators' cups forever instead of answering the question of what Israel wants. But the time for teaspoons has ended. September 2011 is imminent. U.S. President Barack Obama, who came to power on the wings of domestic opposition to racism, has now just scored a victory over racism and messianism abroad. Regardless of whether or not he is personally a fan of Zionism, America's interests and international developments have granted him the ability to help distance Israel from racism and restore its independence. To do this, it is necessary to end the witch's brew of peace, teaspoons and ambiguity, and bring Netanyahu face to face, both at home and abroad, with this simple, clear-cut question: Do you want a democratic state based on the 1967 borders, or not? There is no other question. But the requisite answer is not a facile breath of air. It requires dismantling the settlements outside Israel's borders, bursting the racist-messianic bubble that is taking over Israel's educational and legal systems, and putting rabbis like Eliyahu on trial instead of granting them awards. Now is the time to answer that one question, the one that founded Israel 63 years ago: What does Israel want?

  • May 4, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    haaretz

    by m2298

    Sefi (and other left writers) has written similar artcles on numerous occasions. They don't need anyone else for inspiration.

  • May 4, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST

    I heard the Avengers stopped production.

    by Dr_PepperSpray

    Because someone stole Sam Jackson's script. <P> Oops.

  • May 4, 2011, 3:36 p.m. CST

    coughlin

    by JaredP

    why don't you pull your head out of your ass and stop smelling your own shit obama did something bush never did: kill bin laden accept it and forget it unlike bush, obama kept his promise to catch bin laden

  • May 4, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    BUSH DOESN'T DESERVE CREDIT

    by JaredP

    cause he didn't have anything to do with it

  • May 4, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST

    it's a shame

    by JaredP

    when someone pretending to land a jet on an aircraft carrier so he can declare mission accomplished (but not really) in iraq is called a hero instead of a man who promised to kil bin laden during his campaign and did just that. JUST SAD!!!

  • Watch in amazement at Bush' complete lack of command of the English language. Hear him stutter as he admits that he has no idea where Osama is and how it is "a big area that he is hiding in." Then listen to him explain that he is not that concerned about Bin laden because he has been marginalized" and and literally "pushed to the margins." Yeah, Bush deserves the credit. STFU!

  • May 4, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST

    THE ULTIMATE CAMPAIGN PROMISE - KEPT!

    by dahveed1972

    "What I have said is we're going encourage democracy in Pakistan, expand our non-military aid to Pakistan so that they have more of a stake in working with us, but insisting that they go after these militants. And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaida. That has to be our biggest national security priority" Said during a 2008 presidential debate w McCain. If you were wondering why McCain and some other reps were kissing O's ass, now you know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om-0uFFqzdA&feature=player_embedded#at=149 The most relevant portion of this Obama/McCain debate video starts around 1:55.

  • May 4, 2011, 5:53 p.m. CST

    And the Republicans ridiculed him for being "Naive"!

    by dahveed1972

    Short of flying the chopper, Obama's prints are all over this. If it turned out to be a clusterfuck-sized disaster, the idiots on Fox and AM radio wouldnt be contorting history into a Bush friendly pretzel. "Failure is an orphan" yada yada. If gas comes down to 3.50 and unemployment is at 8 or so, then we are talking landslide in 2012. Big ifs, but he probably wins anyway given the competition. And the fact that Mitt Romney, a guy who's singular achievement to date is universal healthcare and who's a member of a church that other christians consider a cult, is the frontrunner right now doesnt hurt.

  • May 4, 2011, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Ride the Bandwagon, Jackass

    by Alan

    Osama has been dead for 9 years according to many foreign news sources. But don't let that stop you from running into the streets screaming "USA! USA!", celebrating death and destruction just like the stock footage of Palestinians after 9/11. This was the most ridiculous, dumbass, nothing article I have ever read. Ever.

  • May 4, 2011, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Given what i was talking about...

    by dahveed1972

    ... your post is the definition of "non sequitur". I was merely comparing Obama to the alternative on this specific issue. Im a supporter of a Palestinian state but Christian Amenpour was interviewing people in Gaza during those demonstrations. Not stock footage. Just humans being humans. Put down the Weekly World News and pick up the Economist my sad little friend.

  • May 4, 2011, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Oh and the entire premise of this talkback is indeed stupid

    by dahveed1972

    End transmission.

  • Especially when his approval ratings were at their all time low? He could have taken credit and bolstered his supposed legacy. I guess the obvious answer is that he wanted to keep the lie going to keep the American war machine at work in Iraq and Afghanistan. If that's the case...then Obama still deserves credit for putting the brakes on the American war machine and therefore Bush still deserves NO credit.

  • May 5, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Emeraldboy

    by Lost Jarv

    Obviously I've heard of the loathsome Captain Hook. However, that doesn't mean that anybody outside of deluded tools like yourself called London "Londonistan".

  • ...and Barack Obama did it in 2 years. It proves two things. Either Bush II was a complete idiot who had no clue what he was doing, or he was so corrupt that he didn't give a fuck if Osama was caught or not. In fact, he probably liked the idea that Osama was out there somewhere to scare the American people into doing whatever he wanted.

  • May 5, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    DING, Ding, ding

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    Arafel, you are CORRECT!