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A little clunky? Yeah. Slow in parts? Yeah. Some iffy effects mixed in with the cutting edge stuff? Yeah. In all those respects TRON: LEGACY is a perfect continuation of the original film. Everything I said about Legacy can be said about the original, so I don’t understand people who love the original and dismiss the sequel.

I totally understand not liking the sequel if you didn’t like the original, though. I myself was a little disappointed by the sequel, but I dig it. I wish it was a little more than a set-up film, I wish they had sold Tron’s involvement a little better, I wish they had done something to hide some of the iffier Young Flynn/Clu effects, but none of those issues were a movie killer for me.

I’d love it if they pulled a Spider-Man on us and had a solid, but kinda flat first movie and then kicked our asses with the sequel.

Today’s pic from the set of Tron: Legacy was taken by Tron star Jeff Bridges, who is very well known for his own photography skills, and it gives a little look at the sets and the get-up he had to wear while performing Clu.

Hope you guys enjoy the pic, another one from reader Pat Barnett! Click to embiggen!



I’m going to hang up tomorrow’s Behind the Scenes Pic by its buster browns!

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  • May 1, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    totally agree with spiderman analogy

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

  • May 1, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST

    hope they pull it off on second movie

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

  • May 1, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Are you sure?

    by Oceanlizard

    That Bridges took the picture? After all he's in the shot. The guy with all the dots on his face is Jeff Bridges.

  • This perfectly illustrates how we as movie fans have come to accept second rate movies as long as there is a promise of better things to come. Is it so much to ask for better movies all around regardless if there are to be sequels?

  • May 1, 2011, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Next talkback

    by surprider22

    Murray Hamilton in Jaws?....and do I win a prize?

  • May 1, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    This film has a "High Rewatchable Value..."

    by bubcus

    You can say what you want about it, but it's one of those films you can pop back into the DVD/Blu-Ray player and re-watch like a favorite music video. I didn't find myself getting sick of it like most other popular blockbusters that now collect dust on my video shelf.

  • May 1, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Oceanlizard, ever heard of a tripod?

    by stillsberry

    and i don't mean war of the worlds. look up Jeff Bridges official site, he takes all credit for these pictures.

  • May 1, 2011, 5:19 p.m. CST

    i took a few ambien when i saw this movie

    by Kammich

    thusly i don't remember a god damned thing about it. jeff bridges kicks ass, though.

  • May 1, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Digi-Jeff was beyond iffy

    by cookepuss

    It sucked. Even if you're not an artist and didn't know what to look for, you knew that it looked wrong. It was distracting. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The best effect shot is the one you don't notice, or at least can't figure out. Clu was a bad effect because it stood out for being exactly what it was. The facial animation, particularly for the mouth, was horrible. Mocap or not, there was so much cleanup and interpolation that all of Bridges' nuances were lost. The skin shading failed to even get close to that of live Bridges himself and even bordered on waxy. Worse than the bad animation or unconvincing shading/lighting was Bridges' acting for those scenes. He made mocap mistake #1. He hammed up the scene. That made Clu appear cartoony at times, almost akin to silent movie acting. For me, this ruined the movie. I mean, the movie wasn't too great to begin with. The plot was razor thin and the characterization was even thinner. However, Clu was a scene killer. You could almost forgive the rest of that B-movie schlock if the bad digital character didn't so completely take you out of the moment. It was terrible. I tried to like the movie, but ended up accepting it as being little more than a medicore, extended game cinematic. Clu was just the nail in the coffin. I also wasn't a fan of the art team's deviation from the original's PCB inspired designs, but that's a complaint for another day.

  • I could buy that defense a little easier if it weren't for all the complaints thrown at the "Star Wars" Prequels, all of which could be used to describe the originals, as well. <p> <p>Mind you, I liked "Tron Legacy". I just get annoyed when people hold stuff to double-standards.

  • May 1, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST


    by golden tribw

    Amazing experience in IMAX 3D but let's be honest it was not an incredible movie on any basis. Decent action, okay story, okay ending, okay acting ... fucking epic soundtrack.

  • He was having a ball while everybody else looked a little too serious. Don't get me wrong, Jeff Bridges is the man, but he wasn't one of the stand-out parts of this movie. And younger-Him looked like Jerry O'Connell crossed with Nathan Fillion, a little freaky.

  • The fucking CGI team put the reference dots not in keeping with the anatomical positions of the muscles of the mouth. Just pick up an anatomy book for fuck's sake. The are muscle groups that pull up the upper lip. You made it seem like he had cotton balls stuffed up in there.

  • Daft Punk sountrack - ace - but the rest of it? Meh. The trailer felt so much more promising. Doesn't even look remotely like it's set in a computer world which IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF TRON. It's just some vaguely cool future/alternate place with dudes in vaguely future/alternate outfits. Tron 'city' is just about the least imaginative direction they could have gone in - few blue neon strips does not a decent film make. The original is full of cheese but it's odd and original and full of imagination. Oh and 20 years on and the new lightcycle chase is...really quite slow?!? So mishandled.

  • Clu's upper lip didn't move cause Jeff Bridge's upper lip never moves. He's a low lip talker, man. Watch him in Iron Man and the Big Lebowski in particular. Upper lip almost never moves. It's kinda freaky actually. I would cite the scene where Bridges has that conversation with Gwyneth Paltrow while she's downloading files. This scene illustrates my point perfectly. I know it sounds freaky that I notice this, but it's one of those things that once you notice it, you'll never NOT notice after that.

  • May 1, 2011, 6:36 p.m. CST

    My only problem is Sam; Quorra should've been the protagonist,

    by Dennis_Moore

    and Flynn's only "child," considering how infectious Wilde is in the role. If the suits insisted on a romance, they could've set up Cillian in an outside of the grid helping/redemptive role as Dillinger Jr., to lead into the third movie. They are making the same mistake with the toon, though one of the awkward aspects of the original is too many male leads.

  • May 1, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    The bean counters are always too cowardly to take a risk

    by Dennis_Moore

    on a female action hero who isn't jailbait.

  • May 1, 2011, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Quorra Should Be The Main Focus Of TRON 3

    by NeonFrisbee

    Legacy was great. Some narrative flaws, but overall, awesome. Saw it in IMAX 3D four times, and I've been watching the blu-ray over and over. Yeah, it's got some script flaws, but it's GORGEOUS to look at and sounds amazing. I love it without reservation, and love it more each time I watch it. I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's WAY better than it's given credit for. Bring on Tron 3.

  • May 1, 2011, 6:54 p.m. CST

    j.b.m.a. is correct

    by kwisatzhaderach

    in everything he says, especially about the look of the computer world and the lightcycle scene. Dire.

  • May 1, 2011, 6:55 p.m. CST


    by justmyluck You have to hold still during the exposure, otherwise freaky/nifty warping ensues.

  • May 1, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Btw, That Evil C3PO / Digital Sycophant Character Is Great

    by NeonFrisbee

    I think his name is Jarvis? Something like that. Either way, nobody talks about his role, but I thought he was hilarious. I think he's played by a dude from True Blood.

  • May 1, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST

    "Yeah, it's got some script flaws"

    by kwisatzhaderach

    This is the AICN poster understatement of the day. Add to that the directing flaws, acting flaws and vis fx flaws and you're not really left with anything.

  • May 1, 2011, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Half of us love Tron Legacy, the other half hate it

    by SifoDyasJr

    It's funny to watch one side insist to the other side why they are right and the other side is wrong. I loved it, and if you don't that's cool. Doesn't make me less of a human being or you more of one.

  • And even dodgy cgi Bridges wasn't a dealbreaker. In terms of script flaws, I don't quite see how Avatar, which was just as ridiculous, if not moreso, was 10 times as derivative, but also a good flick, gets a pass, while Legacy gets hammered. I think in terms of the flaws-to-awesome ratio, they're about equal, but Tron's cold, minimalist aesthetic appealed to me more than Avatar's frolicking in the the Thundersmurf rainforest aesthetic. I liked Avatar, flaws and all, but LOVED Legacy, flaws and all. The point being, they're both flawed, but one gets slammed while the other gets a pass for some reason.

  • not into Daft Punk, son?????

  • May 1, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    angry mike

    by Billy_D_Williams

    spot on geeks today will do anything to excuse their favorite franchises delivering steaming turds..."well maybe it was on purpose", they simply made a bad movie, it's not part of some elaborate strategy.

  • May 1, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Tron Legacy was ok,

    by empty_headed_animal

  • May 1, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Tron Legacy was ok,

    by empty_headed_animal

    but if a sequel means more Olivia Wilde in latex, then I'm all for it!

  • May 1, 2011, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Actually, the iffy clu effect is only when he talked.

    by Gabba-UK

    There was just something not quite right with the way his mouth was animated. But I've rewatched it again today on Blu, and there are more than a couple of shots where they nailed it. I'm sure, come the third one, it'll be a lot better. And there will be a third one. Legacy is not great film but it is eminently re-watchable as someone has already mentioned. And it's audience will grow. Just next time, get rid of the 3D, I have yet to watch a single 3D film that once watched again on Blu, that's made me thought 'I wish I had a 3D TV.' it's like when they ask if you want to upgrade to VIP seating in the cinema. 'Does the extra two quid make if a better film?' is what I always ask. It's yet to be answered.

  • May 1, 2011, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Not everything

    by Keith

    "Everything I said about Legacy can be said about the original" Not true. Tron does not feature any lengthy scenes of exposition. Legacy has WAY too much exposition. Tron just assumes you can keep up. (It doesn't even spell out the time dilation, which is actually a key element of the nested universe.) This was probably seen as a weakness of the first movie when it first came out - many people had no fucking idea what was going on - but it now stands up as a strength. Legacy assumes that a 2010 teen audience is dumber than a 1982 teen audience. Legacy does not really try to stretch its audience's minds into new philosophical realms.

  • May 1, 2011, 8:19 p.m. CST


    by Keith

    I still cannot understand why a lot of people think SM-2 is better than the first movie. I accept that they do; I just can't see it.

  • May 1, 2011, 8:26 p.m. CST

    recognized your headline brotha...

    by talby

    and agreed on all points. if anything, just to rewrite tron's re-integration into the "sylogy/synergy" of the films would have been crucial to really amp up the new energy of the saga... but remembering that there was a whole lot other else to like about the film. it was an ample stab at rebooting, and we can re-imagine it however we want to go on. i just hate if that's the trend of movies now... was it that it was always predestined to be new-cinema 3d, that was in itself restrictive to the end budget and vision? i hope not. hadn't ordered it yet, but will damn get one in before disney pulls their stupid "back to tha vaults" bullshit. that the previously super-genius edition tron 2-discer probably wasn't on most shelves during the legacy release would have been a major shot in the foot to the whole deal.

  • May 1, 2011, 8:53 p.m. CST

    I love TL

    by TheJudger

    I thought there was no need for a dot matrix anymore. I thought we were using real-time 3d time of flight infrared camera/projector systems on these head rigs- that created 30 frames per second or greater 3d point cloud rig rereps of the recorded face shape data to animate the digital characters face- Those dots say no! I am guess those sit in sessions we saw with Jeff and Brad with their faces painted with the phosphorescent paint jobs was used to create a high resolution series of facial shape morph targets. Those are then triggered with the dot tracking system I guess. I asked way back when we saw how they did Benjamin button. Why are we using phosphorescent paint why not the A4 Vision 3d IR TOF 3d camera system. There's no need for paint using a 30 frame per second TOF 3D IR camera. Works just like the Kinect does. I called Microsoft in 2007 and told them about the A4vision cam and how I thought it could be used to control video game characters- I know the kinects sucks- the cameras resolution was dropped to make it cheaper, and we all lost out because of this. I have know about this tech and how it would change games and films and animation for a long time now Why are we using the phosphorescent paint jobs with the IR cameras to get all those shape targets. Why cant the head-rig use an Ir system and do it real time on set. Why dots???? What is preventing them from using I still don't understand it. I do. But it seems ass backwards to me. The matrix of dots trigger the morph shapes. It's less intensive then converting real time large as fuck point cloud matrix's into a real time animation rig? If that's not the reason. Then are these dots being using as ref for the touch up animators to study. If so why not use two cameras on the head rig. One that is ir and one that is rgb. Paint those dots on with phosphorescent paint, so only the ir camera picks them up. This way the touch up animators can study a clean face and a face with dots as it emotes. I am so confused. I thought the 3D IR camera/projector systems were good enough to use them in the face scanning rigs. I foresaw the use of this tech ages before BB and Avatar. I talked about it during the Beowulf days here. Why are we still using dots? Why not time of flight IR camera/projector systems. Why phosphorescent paint for the shape target sessions. Am I still dreaming about technology that we cant use yet because of memory caps and processor performance issues. I saw this. I saw this ages ago. I spoke out-loud about it here and at IGN. I called Microsoft Sony and Nintendo ages before the CES that showed of that 3dvision camera. And I'm still seeing dots!?!?!? Why!?

  • May 1, 2011, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Where can I get a "I Love TRON LEGACY" tee shirt?

    by MooseMalloy

  • May 1, 2011, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Original is so much better...

    by DeckardB26354

    and it's not even close. People who say that TRON:Legacy had no more flaws than the original have their heads up their asses. TRON:Legacy was one of the clunkiest films I can ever recall seeing in a theater. The storytelling and pace is HORRIBLE. The story just stops and starts and stops and starts and stops again for people to talk needless expositional dialogue, starts, stops again for needless scene of expositional dialogue, etc. etc. etc. TRON:Legacy may have one redeeming factor, it could permanently cure insomnia.

  • May 1, 2011, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Clu's mouth...

    by bubcus

    ... forms a sort of triangle which is why it looked wrong to me. If the bottom lip was a little more rounded out than jagged, I could have bought it more. That's what stood out to me. There's little nuances in facial movements and they're extremely hard to grasp in 3D. I forgave Clu since we were in the Grid anyway but the young version of Kevin Flynn outside of the grid frustrated me. It'll still bug me every time I watch this film, but I'll put up with it.

  • May 1, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Tron Legacy is a remake

    by jbs9200

    Watched Tron & Tron Legacy back-to-back and realized that TL is much more of a remake than a sequel. It is kind of weird hybrid actually. A remake in a world where the 1st movie happened. So, many of T & TL's plot points or scene map up 1:1. Of course, the McGuffin of the two is completely different. As a remake it works pretty well. I was also disappointed in the original. It was a cool concept but suffered a lot in the script department. . I think TL works better as an execution of the Tron idea. I would have liked far more Tron (the character) in TL, and really wanted to see Bruce Boxleitner's face one Tron.

  • May 1, 2011, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Yeah, there's plots in these two:

    by bubcus

    Tron's plot: Dillinger claims he authored something Flynn did and gets the company. Flynn tries to expose him, gets sucked into the Grid that he helped form. He fights his way out with the help of human looking programs and exposes Dillinger's crime once he escapes. Tron Legacy: A young Flynn enjoys sabotaging the company his dad has lost yet again. He is sent to investigate a page, gets sucked into the Grid where a man resembling his father rules the human looking programs. Young Flynn is rescued from an arena, taken to his father, and they must find a way to escape and defeat the villain. Though young Flynn ultimately can't rescue his father, he brings a new being into our world. The plots are fairly solid. It may just be the way the story was told or flowed. One thing I will note about both films is they both have very, VERY simple endings with nearly no dialogue at all. Tron ended, as I recall, with Dillinger facing a messed up Master Control while Flynn happily meets his friends at a helicopter on the roof. Tron Legacy ended with a brief dialogue between Sam and Alan and then a motorbike ride. It left me (and likely everyone else) not quite full from the meal and needing more to satisfy us. Hence the general frustration. I liked the added short film to the DVD as it brings some neat new elements to anticipate. We'll see what they do with Tron 3.

  • May 1, 2011, 9:47 p.m. CST

    osama bin laden is dead

    by seabiscuits

  • May 1, 2011, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Suck it, bin Laden!

    by JuanSanchez

  • May 1, 2011, 9:55 p.m. CST

    I liked the plot of the first movie alright.

    by JuanSanchez

    The whole users = gods thing was pretty interesting.

  • May 1, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Didn't think much of LEGACY. It was...

    by Orbots Commander

    ...essentially a VFX show reel, with a wafer thin story line that would have felt at home in a thirty minute Saturday morning animated show for kids, stretched out to nearly two hours. The only actors who actually made any impression were Michael Sheen's showy-off part and the girl/sidekick/plot McGuffin. But I can't complain too much as I caught it on a Redbox night, and as 'a rental', it's okay. Zero re-watchability though.

  • May 1, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Bin Laden...DEREZZED!

    by Shawn F.

    Derezzed and is currently being fucked in the ass by 72 former virgins in the lowest depths of hell. Rot in hell, you goat-fucking cunt.

  • May 1, 2011, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Who cares that CLU didn't look 100% all the time

    by D.Vader

    I thought he was fascinating to watch, honestly. And I know people who, like many have said before, could tell something was "off" with the young Jeff Briidges, but they didn't realize it was an entirely CGI head. One person said "the makeup they used to make him look young is weird." The point is this: with a character like this, there are very few limited options before the filmmaker to try and make it work: a younger actor, Jeff Bridges in bad makeup, Jeff Bridges de-aged by CGI (like X3), or a CGI Jeff Bridges head. Personally, I love that they went for the final option. But everyone here knows that no matter what they picked, something would be "off" to all our eyes. In the future it will get better, but this was still an important step. And there are many scenes where CLU is entirely convincing.

  • May 1, 2011, 10:18 p.m. CST


    by TheJudger

    James Cameron said 15 years in 2009. I say it can begin now. A series of DLP Projectors are placed behind a Rear Projection Screen. The front of the Rear Projection Screen has a Linear Flicker LCD Parallax Barrier on the front of the screen. You can not project the Left and Right images to the front of the screen. The Flickering Switch LCD Parallax Barrier will not mask off the projected images if you used a front projection system. Another issue is that Projectors need to be placed a certain distance away from the screen to fill it up. This distance works out fine for Front Projection screens because this distance is filled up with seats- seats equal money. There is no way to justify wasting that same amount of of space behind a rear projection screen. If you have a series of DLP projectors placed behind the rear projection screen- projecting specific areas of the total image to specific sections of that screen, and these projectors work as a group to complete the entire image projected to that screen. They wouldn't have to be placed as far away from the back of the Rear Projection screen as a Single projector. This would solve the Projector to Ccreen distance issue. This series of DLP projectors work as a Group to project Left and Right Interlaced Linear Image Columns into rear projection screen. The Linear Flicker LCD Parallax Barrier screen on the front of the rear projection screen alternates rapidly between these left and right linear images. Creating a 3d stereoscopic image.

  • May 1, 2011, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Osama's last words:

    by drompter


  • May 1, 2011, 10:34 p.m. CST


    by GodMars


  • May 1, 2011, 10:34 p.m. CST



    Oh yeah, baby. Bye bye, you miserable cunt.

  • May 1, 2011, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Story: When Star Wars did it, it was ok.

    by TheSecondQuest

    People complain about Legacy grinding to a halt for flashback and exposition, yet it's structured and told almost exactly like Obi-Wan talking to Luke about his father, only accompanied by flashback visuals (containing action) and strong musical cues.

  • What David Fincher did was digitally impose the face of one actor upon another. Tron: Legacy took the digitized face of an actor, de-aged it (?) it digitally AND placed it upon another actor. This is significantly harder to do than what David Fincher did because he was dealing with an individual that actually existed, so a motion capture could be "easily" be done. What Tron: Legacy did was motion-capture Jeff Bridges's face, and turn it to a person that no longer exists (Jeff Bridges in his mid-to-late thirties). There was no reference other than pictures, and movies, so considering what they were dealing with, I think that the digital CLU was not too shabby. The effect was by no means perfect (far from it, actually) but it was way more sophisticated that the technology employed in The Social Network. This is why when the sequel happens the effect will be better that ever because there's been time to refine it.

  • May 1, 2011, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Sorry starwarsredux...

    by one9deuce

    but the Original Trilogy and the Prequel Trilogy could not possibly be more different except that they share: Jedi, lightsabres, blasters, ships, etc... Structure, tone, atmosphere, mise en scene, and every other possible thing about filmmaking is different. Quint, the big difference between TRON and TRON: LEGACY is that Flynn got derezzed by the MCP when he got in the way, which was kind of terrifying. And the MCP was intimidating and also kind of terrifying. Flynn then spent the film trying to get back to the real world. All in all a nice and compact plot. TRON: LEGACY had a much less interesting version of that plot, CLU wasn't really much of a villian, and the original was on the cutting edge and totally original while LEGACY is just one of many CG extravaganzas we get every single year. Daft Punk's score IS aces though. Although Wendy Carlos' score is even better.

  • May 1, 2011, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Ding Dong the Warlock is Dead

    by room23storeblogspotcom

  • May 1, 2011, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Good News Everyone, beard boy is dead

    by Yamato

    Oh, halfbreedqueen, you notice that Bin Laden was not found in Iraq?

  • May 1, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST


    by notcher

    Osama Bin Laden killed in raid by Vin Diesel, Paul Walker, and the Rock!!!

  • May 1, 2011, 11:21 p.m. CST

    bin Laden living in a mansion!

    by Manatee

    As happy as I am this bastard is dead, it makes me want to puke he was living in a multi-million dollar mansion.

  • Sorry if that irks anyone.

  • I would guess a fair number.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:31 p.m. CST

    I hope that those 70 Virgins

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    are all taking their revenge on him since most likely he killed them.

  • Actually Makeneil. Digital Domain Laserscanned a positive full head lifecasting of Jeff taken from John Carpenter's Starman to make the Digital model. There is more to it than that, but it was not a ground up sculpt. It was detailed and fine tuned and in Zbrush with Image Plane background images for study and texture mapping. That and the F.A.C.E system used on older Jeff. Comparing the shape deformations his older facial emotions forced into the younger model of him in contrast to how younger Jeff really looked when he emoted the same way. It all played a role in making it work.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Spider-man 2 is not better than 1

    by MST3KPIMP

    this is a huge mis-conception..

  • May 2, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST

    They should go ahead and release Captain America now

    by frank

    It would do huge numbers.

  • May 2, 2011, 1 a.m. CST

    Star Wars exposition

    by Keith

    There's hardly any compared with TL. Here's Star Wars's exposition dialogue: LUKE: No, my father didn't fight in the wars. He was a navigator on a spice freighter. BEN: That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals. Thought he should have stayed here and not gotten involved. LUKE: You fought in the Clone Wars? BEN: Yes, I was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father. LUKE: I wish I'd known him. BEN: He was the best star-pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand you've become quite a good pilot yourself. [beat] And he was a good friend. Which reminds me... ...I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn't allow it. He feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damned-fool idealistic crusade like your father did. THREEPIO: Sir, if you'll not be needing me, I'll close down for a while. LUKE: Sure, go ahead. LUKE: [looking at the saber] What is it? BEN: Your father's lightsaber. This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or as random as a blaster. BEN: An elegant weapon for a more civilized time. For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times, before the Empire. LUKE: How did my father die? BEN: A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father. Now the Jedi are all but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the Force. --- Point 1: This exchange isn't very long...around a minute. Point 2: It's a fucking cool story. Point 3: Halfway through the exchange, Ben gets out a cool gadget/weapon, and gives it to Luke, who lights it up and swings it around while Ben's exposition continues. Point 4: Kenobi uses several throwaway phrases that he doesn't even bother to explain. While Lucas eventually went crazy, you have to give him full credit for getting this kind of thing exactly right: it gives a sense of depth, richness and intrigue to the universe by hinting at myriad elements to the backstory that don't need to be explained (certainly not yet). Most great movies have exposition scenes that are actually entertaining, not plot-stoppers. SW handles its exposition extremely well. Another terrific example is The Terminator, where almost all of it is woven into the action, or is an organic element of the story such as the police station interview of Reese.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Digital C.L.U. was TERRIBLE.

    by J.B.M.A.

    It's no good saying there were 'a few scenes where they nailed it' - the audience suspension of disbelief is jolted almost every time he appears. Even the way he's shot is a constant fudge of camera angles, keeping his face obscured whenever possible. The opening scene with the 'real' Flynn is maddening - no director worth his salt would ever shoot a scene like that but he does because the CGI doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Not to mention the worst shot in the entire film is the most important : the close of of the REAL 1982 Flynn as he turns in the doorway to say to his son "We're always on the same team" - the look and the lip sync is fucking awful. The Avatar mo-cap craps all over it. Not to mention that all this effort is for naught as the Bridges vs Bridges aspect turns out to be the dullest thing ever. C.L.U. is such an anaemic villain compared to combo of Master Control and the ever excellent David Warner chewing the scenery.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:54 a.m. CST

    The technology now exists to represent the computer world

    by J.B.M.A.

    in the most interesting ways. Since the first film was released we've seen gaming graphics go through huge developments from SNES to Wii to PS3 - the possibilities for stylistic expression are almost endless. But instead the film makers opt for an almost entirely photo real universe - how BORING and not even reflective of even the sharpist PC game. Even the rather cool looking suits turn out to be very under-teched and as obviously latex as the originals yet with half the expressive abilities of the former - no glowing and flashing to match the mood of the wearer etc. In fact Tron himself wears an outfit almost totally bereft of any Tron-World enhancement whatsoever. It's basically a black rubber jersey and pants set. Perhaps they nicked it from the G.I Joe set.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:18 a.m. CST

    Once the performance has been captured...

    by cameron1975willi's stored digitally for perpetuity. The c.g.i. can be updated as the technolgy improves and gets cheaper to do. Maybe they'll release Tron: Legacy in a few years when they can make CLU photorealistic. And that goes for other movies that have used the same process. The young Arnold in Terminator Salvation for example. I'd love them to performance capture Arnold in the next Terminator movie. On another subject, I'd like Spielberg to get Jaws updated with CGI. He already did it with E.T.

  • May 2, 2011, 5:54 a.m. CST

    I agree with goldentribe

    by photoboy

    The best thing about Legacy was Daft Punk's score. Utterly blew me away, I hope they plan to do more soundtracks in the future.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Here's where the CG guys got it wrong..

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    its been said that they used footage and stills from Against All Odds to "de-age" Bridges. Why not use the original Tron or at least Starman for reference?

  • May 2, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Yeah but the fact that Sam is an Iso was pretty cool.

    by UltraTron

    The scene at the beginning where young bridges tells Sam that one wonderful day he was plucked from the grid and brought into the real world to live with Flynn's parents.

  • May 2, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Whoops! I just gave away the big surprise didn't I?

    by UltraTron

  • language of another guy with jeff's head performance stuck on to it.

  • and take them back into the grid. Thus blurring the line between our worlds further

  • Now if they can back that great concept up with more juicy action we should have a great sequel

  • it's creators. The laser is the key to the world and the ability to outdo stark tech. Flynn's genius is unrivaled in cinema. He may have stood on the backs of greater men who made the molecular analyzer this and that and just put them together. But his time in the grid gives him infinite complexity. It will be revealed that the wife was a cover story. For some reason Flynn could have no real children but Sam is just as real and born from Flynn's creation. Flynn becomes the first man to have a child by himself in a sense. Perhaps they will reveal that a female interest of Flynn's had a hand in the grid's programming. Perhaps it will be this "wife" character we know nothing about. Perhaps it does take a little male and female programming to produce Isos.

  • it's creators. The laser is the key to the world and the ability to outdo stark tech. Flynn's genius is unrivaled in cinema. He may have stood on the backs of greater men who made the molecular analyzer this and that and just put them together. But his time in the grid gives him infinite complexity. It will be revealed that the wife was a cover story. For some reason Flynn could have no real children but Sam is just as real and born from Flynn's creation. Flynn becomes the first man to have a child by himself in a sense. Perhaps they will reveal that a female interest of Flynn's had a hand in the grid's programming. Perhaps it will be this "wife" character we know nothing about. Perhaps it does take a little male and female programming to produce Isos.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by Hyphin

    You're new around here, aren't yah? For what it's worth, I agree with you completely. Thought Legacy was great, am baffled by how often it is hated upon.

  • May 2, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by Hyphin

    You're new around here, aren't yah? For what it's worth, I agree with you completely. Thought Legacy was great, am baffled by how often it is hated upon.

  • replaces the old in terms of a system testing excellence. The original film has some seriously classic sound effects. But there's some shit in legacy that will fuck up people in my system. It's got some bone crunching moments. My system even has motion seating so basically I'm one of the few people watching this thing beyond everyone else on earth. The director only has a 58 inch plasma. Limburger doesn't even have a home theater and was hoping Disney would send him one. I'd say that if you own the greatest sounding audio system ever created in human history with more quantum resonance and state of the art audio audio components that can be written about that's all built into the bedrock beneath the foundation of your house then.. Tron Legacy- having higher levels than anything else skywalker sound has ever recorded. Well. It sounds good.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST

    "Star Wars is pretty much ALL expostion"

    by Keith

    I disagree strongly with this claim.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST


    by Keith

    "Since the first film was released we've seen gaming graphics go through huge developments from SNES to Wii to PS3" Bit of a strange progression there. A behind-the-times 1990 console, and then two consoles that came out within eight days of each other in 2006? (One of them admittedly using five year old tech.) A slightly more obvious progression might have been e.g. Atari VCS->Commodore 64->Amiga->N64->PS2->PS3 The Amiga (1985 tech) was superior to pretty much everything else on the market until the mid-90s.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Oh, just STFU about the CLU cgi already!!!


    The cgi was perfectly fine and I actually think that it enhanced the fact that he was a program. HE WAS A PROGRAM! So, it makes perfect sense for him to be computer generated. If anything all the other programs should have looked more computerized.

  • May 3, 2011, 7:34 a.m. CST

    misterdarcy - they were the first to pop into my head

    by J.B.M.A.

    rather than an accurate representation of gaming across 20 years or so. In terms of what I was talking about (graphics) there is such a wild difference to their styles that it supports the point I was trying to make.

  • May 3, 2011, 7:56 a.m. CST

    the_choppah_strikes_back: NO.

    by J.B.M.A.

    The CGI wasn't 'perfectly fine' - which is why it's commented on by almost everybody who watched the film. As a stand alone exercise it might be judged remarkable, but it simply wasn't up to the task demanded of it : that of a photo-real Jeff Bridges circa '82. It doesn't help to suggest that it represents C.L.U. as a program when every other character in the Tron World is played real actors - this just highlights the discrepancies. Even worse the same CGI is used to portray a very unreal looking 'real life' Flynn at the opening of the film and during the flashbacks. I would agree that in deciding to go down this path production should have attempted to augment the real performers, but not only would this have added to the budget, but I suspect that for the director it would have been backwards thinking where instead of attempting to push FX achievement he'd be risking everyone looking like Final Fantasy (film) characters. I think they still should have considered it. I really like the originals choice to monochrome the skin tones of all the programs and users on the grid and generally screw with the image - it makes everyone look less human and more like part of the computer universe. Instead Legacy relied upon dark eyeliner and pasty face makeup stolen from Bladerunner and The Matrix and only used on certain characters.

  • Seriously, there was nothing about CLU that took Orcus out of the movie saying "Oh this looked fake" and what not. Is there a scene in particular that Orcus can look at that can be considered a glaring example?

  • May 5, 2011, 1:56 p.m. CST


    by J.B.M.A.

    My posts have already flagged up one of the most offensive looking C.L.U sequences. There are plenty more. It's more a case of finding times that the FX worked well than the other way round (as previously noted the scene in Flynn's hideout seems to contain the best work for some reason). If you were seriously watching the film and DIDN'T notice anything then I'm nothing but happy for you - however you seem to be in a minority. FYI I'd drop the 3rd person stuff if I was you.

  • In IMAX and 3D you would have thought these imperfections were glaring but they weren't. If there was anything to gripe about it would be the lack of pores in the skin, but then again it never really registered unless one looked for it. Again, this wasn't a deal breaker for Orcus Maybe if it were viewed on a smaller screen and not in 3D, where one can concentrate on the image in it's entirety as opposed to an image 4 stories high then these details would be more apparent. Orcus will definitely check out the lipsyncing issues though.