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Django Unchained by Quentin Tarantino

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. You may have noticed I've disappeared this week as I've been in production on a short flick and I needed a few days off. The Behind the Scenes Pic column returns this afternoon, but before I officially clock back in I wanted to address one of the more interesting bits of news to hit... namely the title of the mysterious Quentin Tarantino.

 

 

Django Unchained. Western fans will immediately sit up seeing that title. Sergio Corbucci's 1966 western Django, starring Franco Nero, is a classic and predates Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch as an incredibly bloody, hardcore western.

With most films the title is a good indicator of the movie to come, but with Tarantino it can be a frustratingly exciting. For instance, his Inglourious Basterds had virtually nothing to do with Enzo G. Castellari's Inglorious Bastards, though Tarantino admitted that film was a huge influence on his own desire to make a men on a mission movie.

Now, I love Basterds like nobody's business (it should have won the Oscar, sorry Hurt Locker) it was a shockingly different movie than I was expecting. The Men On A Mission aspect is such a small part of that story and like most of Tarantino's movies the end result has influences from wide and varied films all melded together to make something uniquely Quentin.

So, you have that and on top of all that there's even fewer guarantees with Django in the title. You see, Corbucci's original was so famous, so popular, such a money machine that the rip-off factory went into overdrive. There were probably a hundred spaghetti westerns that had Django as a character or a name on the poster. Shit, there were even Franco Nero movies that had nothing to do with Corbucci's films that were retitled and redubbed to make it a Django film.

So, Tarantino's film, even though it's rumored to star Nero, will more than likely not be a reboot/sequel/thing and more of a tip of the hat to that sub-genre of Spaghetti Westerns.

The title was broken by a twitpic from @AgentTrainee and I first saw the news from Drew's story at Hitfix. Looks legit and if Django is the jumping off point for a Tarantino Western (wholly spaghetti or not) that's only good news for cinephiles all over the world... Especially with Nero and Christoph Waltz involved.

Thoughts?

-Quint
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  • April 30, 2011, 6:01 a.m. CST

    TB working yet?

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    ??

  • April 30, 2011, 6:09 a.m. CST

    I wish Tarantino would do a sodherberg and retire...

    by scrote

  • surely.

  • April 30, 2011, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Shame...

    by jasper Stillwell

    ...about the talkback folding again. I just sent in a really hilarious crack about Franco Nero's feet on a dashboard, but the moment's gone...

  • April 30, 2011, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Am I the only person on this planet...

    by Mozzerino

    who more or less hated INGLORIOUS BASTERDS? Seriously, I love Quentin and his previous films as much as the next guy, but I found IB to be a pretentious, overly long and utterly boring mess. Granted Christoph Waltz was great in it and the opening scene is pretty fantastic. But the rest of the film is one pointless, uninteresting dialogue scene after the next, where you can more or less tell the outcome from the beginning. Diane Krueger is terrible, as is Till Schweiger and Brad Pitt's comedy accent was ridiculous as well. Am I totally alone on this?

  • April 30, 2011, 6:29 a.m. CST

    I love QT but...

    by Prydie

    ...his proclamations don't ever hold to be true. Don't get me wrong -- I love his films. Reservoir Dogs is my favorite film of all time and Jackie Brown is the most underrated gem of the '90s. I'm just a little sick of his between movie hype. "I'm gonna do a 'Vega Brothers' movie!"..."There will be a 'Kill Bill part 3' but in the meantime just wait for 'The Whole Bloody Affair'!"..."I'm doing a 'men on a mission' movie! This is my Dirty Dozen, my Guns of the Navarone!" So his announcement of a spaghetti western means zero to me. Until I'm actually sitting in a theatre I don't ever want to get my hopes up again.

  • April 30, 2011, 6:34 a.m. CST

    mozzerino

    by Jeffrey

    While I have talked to people who are not all frothy about Inglorious, I have not met anyone who out and out hated it. Unless you count the opinon of women....which I don't when it comes to film.

  • April 30, 2011, 6:34 a.m. CST

    The Tarantino Shame

    by King_Knut

    per Dr Mark Kermode, with whom, on this occasion, I agree entirely. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zItF0ZpWGZ0

  • I swear, everything I read on here by the regular staff has at least one grammar error.

  • April 30, 2011, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Tarantino has certainly been in decline since JACKIE BROWN

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    I have to agree with Kermode there. KILL BILL was entertaining enough (although I found the second part to be vastly inferior to the first) but it was a step down from JACKIE BROWN. DEATH PROOF was almost unwatchable for me. I don't even remember if I saw the end of that movie. All I can recall are a bunch of feet, some girls talking like Quentin Tarantino and Kurt Russell doing something interesting in a movie that actually wasn't that interesting. I've not managed to sit all of the way through INGLORIOUS BASTERDS. Perhaps I'll give it another go sometime. I wish the Tarantino who made those first three movies would come back again. I miss that guy.

  • April 30, 2011, 6:54 a.m. CST

    More Overrated then George Lucas? I think not

    by Phategod100

    Your penchant for hyperbole is unmatched.

  • April 30, 2011, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Inglorious Flick

    by b_profane

    I LOVE QT!! IB, not so much.

  • April 30, 2011, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Inglorious Flick

    by b_profane

    I LOVE QT!!! IB, not so much. (will it work this time?)

  • April 30, 2011, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Talkback's effed up :-(

    by b_profane

  • April 30, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST

    I Liked Inglorious Basterds (sic), But Think It's WAY Overrated

    by NeonFrisbee

    Truth be told, it's my least favorite QT flick. I mean, I enjoyed it, it's definitely good, and boasts some great scenes (the scene in the German rathskeller being it's best scene), but overall, it didn't really come together for me. And the anachronisms felt jarring and unnatural -- instead of engaging me and drawing me in, I felt disconnected from it all. I would have much rather have seen the Men On A Mission movie it was sold as than the kind of random mish mash of European films we got. Whatever, though. I like all of QTs films, and LOVE some of them (KILL BILL is my undisputed #1 favorite), so any new QT is good news. I'll definitely being seeing this and hope it steers closer to KB than IG.

  • April 30, 2011, 7:16 a.m. CST

    QT

    by larry burbridge

    overrated by far, his best works, Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie brown. Have been overshadowed by crap like Deathproof and Inglorious Basterds. I dotn get the love for IB either. it had a good opening (which was an homage/ripoff) and then it went to shit. all over the place, bad dialogue and the whole Hitler assasination scene looked like it had been lifted out of Beyond the Valley of the Dolls it was so over the top bad. Tarentino was better as a writer when he did NAtural Born Killers and True Romance. But they also had good directors to reel things in. Id like to see a Spaghetti Western, and did with Quick and the Dead. But Im not sure QT is the guy to do it

  • April 30, 2011, 7:17 a.m. CST

    the Hughes Bros

    by larry burbridge

    ALready did a spaghetti western... its call Book of Eli

  • not that self-conscious wank fest And hey i DID like Kill Bill and pretty much everything else including Jackie Brown, but Basterd was a stinker. Appropriately ignored for awards. Death Proof the rot was showing..but Basterds? Great opening scene and all down hill to boring yabbering and silly characters, desperate pop culture and film references...silly montage.. just awful. He needs to pick his fucking game up big time.

  • April 30, 2011, 7:50 a.m. CST

    mozzorino- count me in.

    by zom-bot.com

    i don't out and out hate it, but i don't get the praise for it, found more than half of it really boring and could not see Pitt as anything more than a hammy, distracting element. It had several good segments, but either so distantly separated or sparse that I just can't keep the entire thing in mind as a 'good movie'. two things that come to mind are the Christoph Waltz opener and the interrogation game in the bar. for all the hype about being a men on a mission flick, there were SO many characters presented that were underused. if i had to rate it 1 to 100 i'd give it a 65. better than alot of crap out there, but nothing i'm going to go back to again and again. hell, i didn't like the pretentious slow form of kill bill(s) either. I kind of think everything since Pulp Fiction has been lacking, or too full of its own winks and nods. Quentin lost the original spark that made Pulp the right movie for its time. Everything since has been too homage-based.

  • April 30, 2011, 7:54 a.m. CST

    no mention of western sukiyaki django?

    by zom-bot.com

    and how quentin is maybe trying to tie something to THAT?...since he was in it, after all. i'm still torn on wheter his presence aided or ruined that thing. i'm also torn on if it was so visual it was annoying or not.

  • April 30, 2011, 7:59 a.m. CST

    While the most rabid QT fans are annoying as fuck....

    by Nice Marmot

    The man is SO not overrated. He's getting better. And I want Peter Weller's ass in this western . . .

  • April 30, 2011, 8 a.m. CST

    Loved Inglorious Basterds

    by elsewhere

    The best thing he's done since Jackie Brown in my opinion. Kill Bill had moments of greatness, but overall it just didn't meld right with me. I generally like QTs dialogue centric films, but Death Proof was a fucking snoozefest.

  • April 30, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST

    I think Tarantino is taking his career in the wrong direction

    by Mozzerino

    Quentin, we get it. You love exploitation movies from the 60s and 70s. You proved that with Kill Bill. And Death Proof. And Inglorious Basterds. It's enough already! Stop picking elements from old cult-films like a kid on a sugar-high in a candy store, and throw them all together in one film! Is that what you want to do for the rest of your career? Direct homage-movies? Do something original. Without references to 70s-exploitation cinema. Without Ennio Morricone in the soundtrack. Without over-the-top gangster, killers and hookers. You are good at it, but it's getting tiresome and, as I think IB proves, you starting to lose your ability for tight, cohesive storytelling over your kiddiness for all the nostalgia-props. Great artists don't keep repeating themselves, they reinvent themselves. I'm sorry, but all I can think of when I hear this Django-stuff is "Same old, same old."

  • April 30, 2011, 8:13 a.m. CST

    I like it..

    by richievanderlow

    I've heard that his next project would be Kill Bill 3, and I have to say that I would much rather see something else from Q before he does KB3... and for him to finally tackle a western? Particularly the sub-genre that he's drawn so much from in many of his movies. To me, Tarantino doing a western is so long overdue, I just can't wait, quite frankly. Side note - I'm all for KB3.. I just feel its a little too early yet. I'd like more time to pass. But if it were his next one, I'd still go see it, and be damn happy about it.

  • April 30, 2011, 8:18 a.m. CST

    childs: self-indulgent

    by zom-bot.com

    you are spot on with "it was Tarantino disappearing up his own arse for 90 minutes, and rarely have I been so simultaneously disappointed by, and angry at, a film and a film maker." i haven't seen death proof, so i can't comment but am likely to agree. i feel Tarantino rides the edge of that with each movie. I'd say half of each starts to go in, and then a performance or actor manages to pull it back out to safety despite Quintin's own ways. in no other director of my lifetime have i seen one become so self-indulgent since 'making it big'. He's one that i feel made his best and strongest works with less fame, cash and experience and ego. When given a blank check and free reign, he's too overwhelming, tries to put too much into something and doesn't know how to connect them. This worked with the episodic nature of P.F. but doesn't feel like it has since, though it has tried to. It's a true case of better art through suffering- like a band from out of nowhere making a great first mainstream album that defies genres and everyone can agree upon- then their later work going too 'concept', homage heavy, losing freshness, band members getting big heads, breaking up, being on VH1's 'where are they now'....in my eyes Tarantino fits that mold. He's a little harder to capture than that though, he manages to stay afloat by having enough style, or casting actors that surprise everyone, make comebacks, or go against type. For that he does a great service. i seriously doubt there is anyone in his circles that shoots down or even at least constructively criticizes his ideas anymore. that's never good.

  • April 30, 2011, 8:23 a.m. CST

    hurt locker was better than IB on every level

    by jsfithaca

    and i enjoyed IB, but it wasnt amazing. reservoir dogs and pulp fiction are some of my favorite movies of all time. and btw jackie brown was absolute SHIT! i love de niro and slj but they were horrible in that movie. and i think this horribly edited article will shut up some of you people who think quint should take over harry as head of the site.

  • April 30, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    "Basterds" is a brilliant film, in my opinion, and will...

    by dasheight

    ...be studied in screenwriting courses as a classic of the form for years to come. A Tarantino western makes perfect sense, given that it seems like that's what he's been heading for since he started. If Tarantino does a Western, it's sure to be incredible. That said, this may very well be a working title and have nothing to do with "Django", etc. Anyone who thought "Inglorious Basterds" was "pretentious" or "overlong" or "boring" has simply not lived long enough or seen enough movies. OBJECTIVELY, the film is brilliant. My only issue with it are the two out-of-place Jackson narrations - it could have done Stiglitz's background without it, etc. - but other than that, I've seen it probably 10 times, and have enjoyed it each time in different ways. Any fan of movies who doesn't like "Basterds"...I just don't understand where they're coming from. It's a love letter to fans of World War 2 cinema.

  • April 30, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    The IB hate

    by richievanderlow

    I'm surprised by it. As often happens with most QT movies, I have a different expectation going in to the theatre than what I inevitably get, so I walked out of Basterds a little disappointed.. I certainly didn't hate it. So I gave it a second shot on video, and started to see what was so great about it. See more and more of the subtlety that I think makes it a great movie. It could have benefitted from some trims and fat cutting, but I thought Tarantino's long dialogue scenes were much better than the bulk of comparable scenes in KB2. I never bought that Bill was into Superman comic books. It reminded me of the Mia filming Vincent scene that was excised from Pulp Fiction.. it sounded like Quentin was writing dialogue like he would speak it. A friend of mine that speaks German fluently was particularly impressed with the foreign language scenes in IB.. he said that it wasn't Germans speaking American dialogue that was awkardwerly overdubbed.. it was very authentic. That attention to detail is impressive.

  • April 30, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    is that really his handwriting?

    by zom-bot.com

    wow. i know lots of artists and musicians with bad handwriting but it doesn't often look like a right-handed child wrote it with their left hand. let's step back from this and think for a sec- what's the source of the pic? (there is no mention of this- poor form for an article with 'breaking news') it seems with things like twitpics, etc, we get more false leads and hoaxes than we do real inside scoops these days.

  • April 30, 2011, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Yawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn

    by DannyOcean01

    Just when I thought Tarantino was going to attempt his own subversion of a genre he's settling back on someone else's work. Spaghetti riffs just feel so lazy and, considering he's shooting with a decent budget these days with all the latest technology, utterly artificial and sterile and, quite frankly, fake.

  • April 30, 2011, 8:41 a.m. CST

    QT Peaked with Jackie Brown

    by m_prevette

    JB was a masterwork, just pitch perfect capturing Elmore Leonard, while showcasing all the things QT does well without a ton of self indulgence. QT needs to option another Leonard novel and get back to it, do another adaptation. Jackie Brown is still his best work, hands down.

  • April 30, 2011, 8:57 a.m. CST

    What happened to his Elmore Leonard films?

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    When Quentin did Jackie Brown, it was reported that Leonard gave him the film rights to four of his other books, which, being a Leonard fan, made me very excited to see what he was going to do next. That was almost 15 years ago. Anyone know which books he got the rights to and if he'll ever make another one? Aside from Out of Sight and maybe Get Shorty, Jackie Brown is without a doubt one of the best adaptations of a Leonard story on film (not counting his western stories - I do like the original 3:10 To Yuma). Come on, QT, give me some more Elmore!

  • April 30, 2011, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Western Cast

    by kiwicanuck

    Some wonderful ideas above about a cast in Tarantino Western - would be interesting to see how Ford would deal with Quentin dialogue, I'm thinking a reawakened Ford's wry sardonic delivery would be a damn nice fit. And Eastwood and Ford together, a couple of weathered and leathered geezers in the old west leading the charge with some younger blood, would be AMAZING.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:05 a.m. CST

    QT do Blood Meridan

    by Mr Soze

    Sorry Jim Franco...hand it over to Quentin...and get Seymour Hoffman as the Judge.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    What the fuck is he doing?

    by dingleberryjerry

  • April 30, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST

    The Basterds

    by kiwicanuck

    I loved parts of IB, but was drifting off in others. The opening scenes were fantastic, and Waltz was magnetic whenever he was on the screen. However, most involving the grown up little girl seemed aimless and choppy, so much so that I can barely remember most of it. 30 minutes could have been trimmed, no problem. However certain scenes (Pitt and the crew meeting Waltz in the the theatre lobby for example) were an amazing example of what QT does better than just about anybody - ratcheting up laughs which actually add to the suspense of the moment.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    I'm not surprised a lot of you don't like Basterds.

    by Nomoredirtyanything

    Stupidity is more common nowadays. Inglorious Basterds is a masterpiece. You pack of drooling apes could barely peel a banana.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Deathproof

    by kiwicanuck

    And of course IB was MILES better than the meandering self-indulgent Deathproof. Loved Stuntman Mike and his over-the-top comeuppance, but man, the opening 30 minutes or more featured some of the most aimless, uninteresting dialogue I've had the misfortune of sitting through. Truly shocking coming from someone who also authored some of my favourite bits of dialogue (From Pulp Fiction and Dogs) in the movies. I just remember waiting for someone to say something interesting. And waiting. And waiting...

  • April 30, 2011, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Soo tired of this guy!

    by dingleberryjerry

    I'd love to see him try a straight-up drama for ONCE! Just one time. Why won't he stretch himself and get away from the '60s and 70's "homages" for awhile? At this rate, he is a higher-end M. Night going to the well one too many times.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST

    I don't like Tarantino

    by twogunjames

    Because I was watching the same films he was before he was making films, so when he hit the scene all I saw was a fanboy ripping off the work of better directors. Then we got to see his overly coked up personality and self love, and I was all done with the video store clerk. It is no small problem that my wife thinks he's the second coming of filmmakers and I live in a house with a giant pulp fiction poster.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:23 a.m. CST

    damn_dirty_ape... Tarantino is as good as any on that list

    by Nomoredirtyanything

    Basterds is the closest thing we've had in years to a Leone film.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:28 a.m. CST

    twogunjames... yeah, before QT no great director was influenced

    by Nomoredirtyanything

    oh wait.... Leone was sued by Kurosawa. Kurosawa 'borrowed' from Lean.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:43 a.m. CST

    it seems ingloriuos basterds is pretty divisive.

    by zom-bot.com

    people either love it or have issue with it. contrary to what the lovers of it say, i haven't actually heard anyone say they hated it wholeheartedly, just that we don't get the appeal in full. so we are split down the middle: 1) those who like parts of it but think as a whole it wasn't that great- but certainly understand how someone might like it. we make note of the homages, the truly original moments, and the overall structure. We feel it wasn't what we were told it would be and wish it had been, and generally feel it could have been better. 2) then there are people who love it so much they think it's the best cinema in decades and call us drooling apes for thinking anything less of it, with not even a critical note to back up those opinions on the flick. now, who sounds like the more intelligent film lover?

  • April 30, 2011, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Whole gonna play Django?

    by dingleberryjerry

    My guess....Sam Jackson!

  • April 30, 2011, 9:46 a.m. CST

    damn, I named my son Django six months ago

    by calvart

    Now everybody the next 20 years will think of this movie... I hope it'll be good at least!

  • April 30, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    damn no edit function!!

    by dingleberryjerry

  • April 30, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    So this is his next feature length film?

    by Dr. Samuel Loomis

    Fucking sweet. I love Inglorious Basterds. I've watched it probably 8 times in the last 4 months. Never gets old.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:49 a.m. CST

    DIJON UNJARRED

    by zom-bot.com

  • April 30, 2011, 9:49 a.m. CST

    DJINN UNBOTTLED

    by zom-bot.com

  • April 30, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    D'ABO UNCLOTHED

    by zom-bot.com

  • April 30, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    DEGENERES UNSCRIPTED

    by zom-bot.com

  • April 30, 2011, 9:50 a.m. CST

    RINGO UNSTARRED

    by zom-bot.com

  • April 30, 2011, 9:51 a.m. CST

    JENGA UNSTACKED

    by zom-bot.com

  • April 30, 2011, 9:52 a.m. CST

    JANGO UNFETTED

    by zom-bot.com

  • April 30, 2011, 9:52 a.m. CST

    DJANGO ALL THE WAY

    by zom-bot.com

  • April 30, 2011, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Basterds is the closes thing we've had in years to a Leone film

    by DannyOcean01

    And. So. Fucking. What. I have no interest in another Leone film. Know why? Because Leone is fucking dead. Tarantino is a filmmaker of immense talents, which he wastes by filtering through other filmmakers work. He's a fucking magpie and it's getting tiresome.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Extreme Prejudice

    by sith_rising

    was the only adequate "homage" to Peckinpah. that movie kicked ass, and most people have never heard of it, nor it's fantastic cast.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Am I the only one who LOVES Death Proof?

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    I will NEVER understand why so many people hate on it. Hot women, bare feet, a badass Kurt Russell turning into a hilarious crybaby Kurt Russell, and one of the best car chases of the last 20 years. Fuck all of you supposed Tarantino "fans" who hate on it.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Tarantino

    by blackwood

    JACKIE BROWN was his best film until INGLORIOUS BASTERDS. I feel like the films between them were considerably less than either, even though I loved KILL BILL and enjoyed the first bit of DEATH PROOF. But neither are essential. I think BASTERDS will stand the test of time. It's so novelistic, unafraid to spend half an hour with bit characters playing cards, unafraid to be about Shoshanna. The tension in the restaurant scene still gets me. It feels like his least self-indulgent film, save for the brief voice-over from Samuel L. Jackson and the casting/acting of Eli Roth. It manages to be ridiculous and restrained all at once -- and as much as it is unmistakably Tarantino, I feel he disappears into the work more than any of his other films, instead of laying on top of it like corpse gag. I dig Westerns. I'm interested to see how this shapes up. Even when he isn't successful, and can be insufferable, I'm in.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Also, the title is stupid.

    by blackwood

    Just is.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST

    About QT

    by grendel69

    Basterds is WAY overrated. Great performances, but not a great movie. His best film is still Jackie Brown. Kill Bill2's last 30 minutes ruin the previous 3 hours. And yea, QT talks alot of shit. I dont think hes being misleading, I think he would like to do everything he talks about, it just doesnt work out that way. Travolta and Madsen were just too old to get that Vega movie going. There was also supposed to be a Geckos Bros FDTD prequel - never happened. And dont forget about 40 Lashes.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Zombot

    by richievanderlow

    On IB being divisive, I'm sort of in the middle of your two statements. So to clarify what I said earlier in the TB, I'm in the camp that I loved the movie, but not at first. I didn't get what I expected when going in the theatre, and left a little disappointed. But not enough I wouldn't watch it again, which I did repeatedly. Now, I feel I understand it better and I love it. I think my post above may not have conveyed that sentiment. BUT.. I also understand that its not for everyone.. I hope I'm never in the camp that would shun those who don't like any given film. That being said, I would expect those that think Basterds is terrible to not be fans of film and cinema... Those that are not sophisticated in their taste for movies. I'm surprised so many here didn't think it was a good movie, but I'm not critical of that position... just a little puzzled by it. Just felt like I needed to clarify.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    So, what proof is there that this is legit?

    by solanine

    Because that twitter account is suspect and anyone can hand write a title on a piece of paper and put Tarantino's name on it. How has this story been run on so many sites with absolutely no fact checking?

  • April 30, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Turd_has_risen

    by richievanderlow

    So, it seems this won't be a western after all? Now I'm a little bummed... although, the premise you describe sounds pretty cool.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Does he hold the pen between his toes?

    by v3d

  • Before the Italians spent the latter half of the 60s and into the early 70s making westerns, they spent the late 50s and early half of the 60s making sword and sandal movies. The big star of those movies was Steve Reeves and one of his most popular movies is HERCULES UNCHAINED. I doubt (though it would be amusing) if Hercules pops up in Tarantino's western, but that's gotta be where he got word two of his title.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    HERCULES UNCHAINED- indeed!

    by zom-bot.com

    i own the mst3k version. it was the first thing that came to mind when i read DJANGO UNCHAINED...lol

  • April 30, 2011, 10:30 a.m. CST

    richievanderlow

    by zom-bot.com

    understood and articulated- i was just defending my stance broadly from the angry IB lovers that seemed to come out of nowhere at any of us who were less than making love to it. :)

  • April 30, 2011, 10:37 a.m. CST

    but seriously, the handwriting

    by zom-bot.com

    i almost expect to see 'agE 5' underneath his name there. you would think someone who has been writing scripts, let alone his name- for so long would have mastered it. It looks like someone who has never written the words Quentin or Tarantino wrote that. then again, cocaine is some crazy shit.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Did QT dictate the script to a 7 year-old?

    by TheApostle

    What the fuck is up with that penmanship?

  • April 30, 2011, 10:37 a.m. CST

    zombot

    by richievanderlow

    lol.. I get it.. I guess I was just worried I came off inaccurately. Perhaps I didn't have to, but just wanted to make sure. I get what you're saying.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:39 a.m. CST

    theapostle

    by zom-bot.com

    ha ha- i almost wrote 'age 7' as well. but then i remembered my handwriting at 7 was better than this.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Everyone complains about remakes yet...

    by themastadon

    a lot of people love Tarantino. The guys entire idea of making a film is to take all these films, little scenes and characters he loves and redo them. Reservoir Dogs, if you don't know this already; go watch City On Fire with Chow Yun Fat. Watch the last 30 minutes and you'll see how unoriginal he is. When I watched Kill Bill I was able to sit there and point out every single thing he took from Hong Kong cinema, which was a ton (I'll admit it was great to see Gordon Liu play Pai Mai after having fought that character in the 70's). But yet when the remake of say Nightmare on Elm Street comes out (first one that came to mind) everyone's like "oh this is horrible and is an atrocity." Now yes, I know the argument that his dialogue is "so amazing" and it was pretty good in his early flicks, I will agree 100%. But I left the theatre during the beginning of Death Proof when Jungle Julia and her friends were in the car to go to the bathroom and when I came back they were still in the car! I asked my friend what I missed, his response was "Nothing." Inglorious Basterds, I fell asleep for about 40 minutes of the film (I'll admit the opening was fantastic), woke up and it was like I had stayed awake for the whole thing because I didn't miss anything at all. I just don't get the attraction quite honestly. And this isn't to say people who like them are wrong, I'm a firm believer in whatever floats your boat; I just don't understand why more people haven't called him out on this. Now I've never seen or heard of the original Django, but I think I'm really interested in seeing it now.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST

    The hate on this site is now plain pathetic

    by Andrew Coleman

    "IB sucked, it was boring."... "Hurt Locker was garbage"... "Hurt Locker ripped off all the other movies at the Oscars". I would believe that if not EVERY movie was hated on in TB's here. It doesn't matter what it is the trolls just swim here. All these negative statements and opinions have no weight to them. I can't tell who is actually saying what they really believe or who is trolling. It's sad. This place used to be a place for nerd love, now it's filled with self loathing ass holes trying to vent their issues. I get that IB wasn't what you expected, that is what I liked about it. If you thought it was boring, you're a child it's simple as that. Stick to seeing films like Yogi Bear and Rio. IB wasn't the best film of the year but it sure wasn't the worst. Hurt Locker, those who hate it, didn't see it because their mom said it was violent. Why it gains so much praise is because it brought tension to current problem in warfare. IED's are scary. This film did a good job of focusing on that. I'm sorry Avatar lost(even though I'm sure you "hate" that movie too) but get over it. I'm getting so bored with every movie just getting bashed for no reason... Look at up coming awesome films like Thor, haters are foaming at the mouth even after loads of good reviews. It's sad. Oh looking forward to this...

  • April 30, 2011, 10:52 a.m. CST

    FIRST!

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    That's right, I claiming it because if the site hadn't been playing up I would have gotten here before ALL you gayboys!

  • April 30, 2011, 11 a.m. CST

    what i like about the talkbacks

    by zom-bot.com

    is when people bring up movies i've never heard of (like extreme prejudice) while we complain about current movies. then i go to my netflix and cue it. thanks gang!

  • April 30, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    It's an excellent barometer: The more hate you get on AICN, the hotter your career is

    by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST

    Good to keep in mind. Funny how Tarantino has come full circle now and is incurring the hatred of all those basement-dwelling, no-talent wannabees who've written their unappreciated, undiscovered passion projects on old, wrinkled legal pads. Ha! Ha! Losers!!

  • April 30, 2011, 11:05 a.m. CST

    reimagining, huh?

    by themanwithaname

    if it's anything like the pile of crap that was Basterds i'm guessing Django will be Sudanese and he'll be fighting dragons. woohoo!

  • April 30, 2011, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Dubbing?

    by SnootyBoots

    The original spaghetti westerns were usually shot in Spain without sound featuring actors from various European countries and the U.S. speaking their native languages. They would then be dubbed into the language of whatever market they were sold to. A name actor like Clint Eastwood would record his own dialogue for the english speaking market, but others might not, and the supporting Europeans certainly didn't. I wonder if Tarantino's going to go off to Europe and do the same.

  • April 30, 2011, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Kermode brilliantly deconstructs QT

    by Billy_D_Williams

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zItF0ZpWGZ0 and i agree with him oh, and proof read your articles for fuck sake, thats pretty pathetically amateur

  • April 30, 2011, 11:23 a.m. CST

    even his most original film was a fucking ripoff

    by Billy_D_Williams

    Reservoir Dogs = City On Fire

  • April 30, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Nasty in the Pasty

    by Dr. Samuel Loomis

    I also fucking LOVE Death Proof. I often sport the shirt, especially around those who I know hate the movie. Fuck em. They don't know good film.

  • April 30, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST

    im ambivalent about QT

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i think his first three films are brilliant, even if they are mostly homage pieces (especially the first two)...everything after that i feel is garbage, except IB which i thought was brilliant...but QT remains more of a jukebox than a filmmaker, its like the guy cannot make a movie anymore that isn't swimming up to its eyeballs in movie references worn on its sleeve. now every filmmaker steals from other filmmakers, but they do it fairly sparingly and hide it in their own style...QT doesn't seem to have a style as much as he has a "slant" on things. the movie references overshadow his true genius and he lets them take control of his film...its like he's afraid to just put a camera in a room and figure out how to film something, he has to go "hmmmm....how would De Palma/Leone/Godard do this?" and frankly it's getting tiresome...

  • denied it's sea lion. Uh, let's see what else should have won that year instead. Basterds? Check. Avatar? Check. District 9? Check. My friends walked out of it and they made it through batman and robin and little Fockers. Sorry but what commentary of value does that movie provide? We are fucked. Great. So go be an adrenaline junkie and leave your wife and baby to fend for themselves? We blow up those types of bombs with morter fire so go defuse them?!! Hurt Locker scores another EAT SHIT just for being mentioned. Ahem.. Tarintino is a little late with this because he is now competing with Red Dead Redemption. Heavily influenced by Tarintino to begin with. I can't wait to compare the experiences.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Interesting...

    by GroolDemon

    I'll be the first to admit that Tarantino is hit or miss on his flicks, but this seems right for his particular style. I know a lot of people on here hate a lot of his overboard talking sections in some of his movies, but I really think it could make for some intense plot setup in a spaghetti western homage. I can just see a couple of guys around a campfire, or a smokey dive bar in the middle of the desert making some conversation about what we're going to see unfold, and dialing that intensity meter up to 11. Or it could be a steaming pile of shit... I guess we'll find out. For now though, a bloody grand old school western by Tarantino? My interest is piqued.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    My defense of DEATH PROOF and INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS

    by berserkrl

    My defense of Death Proof:<p> http://aaeblog.com/2007/04/15/chick-habit <p><p> My defense of Inglourious Basterds:<p> http://aaeblog.com/2009/08/23/gloury-days

  • April 30, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by richievanderlow

    So basically, you think 1.5 films are garbage? Kill Bill & Death Proof? Not slamming you, just think it's funny...you could have just said that. lol.

  • I wouldn't have personally selected INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS as best film of the year and handed it the statuette accordingly, but that bitch Bigelow made an even worse film than her ex-husband, who at least raised the bar for VFX, 3D, and immersive "world-building" while retreading familiar (archetypal) ground. HURT LOCKER was just fucking awful, awful, awful. The super-slo-mo shot of the mine exploding was the only interesting thing in the entire goddamn film, and there are way cooler vids than that of random shit exploding on YouTube -- hell JACKASS 3D did more interesting things at 1000fps than HURT LOCKER ever did.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:23 p.m. CST

    The adoration for Basterds is utterly astounding

    by slone13

    Easily one of Tarantino's weakest efforts. And for the record, the best thing the man has ever written is still True Romance.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    QT has to learn not to fall in love with his dialog.

    by kabong

    Movies in general should learn to use silence. <p> Emulate Sergio Leone in "Once Upon A Time in the West."

  • April 30, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    About long dialogue scenes...

    by richievanderlow

    Tarantino is one of the few that can really pull that off for me. Even if I think its ridiculous or inappropriate for the character speaking it, I enjoy listening to it all. As much as I despised the Superman speech for Bill, it was a great piece of dialogue. I'm not sure I've met another writer/director that captivates my interest in just letting the actors talk. The other caveat, is he seems to find actors that pull it off well. David Carradine was fine in every other scene, and with every other piece of dialogue, lengthy or not. The bride's conversation with Esteban Viejo is one of my all time favorite Tarantino dialogue scenes. That's all because of how Michael Parks played it. For saying very little of substance, it was really fun to watch those two talk to each other.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    theapostle, did you see QT's script for "Basterds"?

    by kabong

    Spelling mistakes galore.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Damn if he don't; damn if he doesn't...stop the hate!

    by tronbarn

    God, I can surely understand the right to ones own opinion and some of them certainly valid with regard to QT's career choices, but come on most of it is about him staying true to himself and indulging in himself as an artist. This confuses me because the minute he switches gears and does a super-hero flick (which everyone is doing these days) or take over the twilight franchise, now he's a big giant SELL OUT! But I'm sure there will be some of those same haters of QT saying how brilliant he would be at making the next Twihard flick. Here is one of the few filmmakers working today that has an original - yes I said it - ORIGINAL voice and you hate on him for doing what he does? For not indulging in cookie-cutter studio crap? For reinventing or mashing up genres from cinema past and making it his own? Jeez peeps. Also it might help to add that apparently this isn't a western he's doing, as it was reported (from a link I got off Kevin Pollack's twitter) that this is indeed a 'southern' - as QT previously mentioned - and it's about a freed slave named Django and him being and apprentice bounty hunter and going after the slave owner who kidnapped his wife. It has western influences, but this should be something totally different if it is to be true.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    childs

    by flax

    I was struck by an excellent idea while reading your comment. Clint Tarantino should give Clint Eastwood a cameo as the Man With No Name. Seriously, get him to reprise his role from the Sergio Leone trilogy. It would be fucking amazing to see that character again after all these years. There shouldn't be any legal issues – they won't be identifying him by name or anything. Just get Clint Eastwood to show up for one scene as an elderly gunslinger wearing the same clothes as in the Leone films and we'll all know who it really is. I guess that sort of thing would tie the Leone trilogy into continuity with the Tarantino universe; cool beans I say.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Damned if he DOES, damned if he doesn't...

    by tronbarn

    Excuse the grammar flub. Passion transcends petty rules....

  • April 30, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Copying other films...

    by richievanderlow

    Name one movie to come out in the past 5 years that wasn't a sequel or derivitive of some other story. There's just not a lot of different ways to tell a story differently. Besides, It's not like QT is claiming to be completely original with these films. If you're one who gets distracted because you feel one of his movies is derivitive, then that's cool.. but my point is its not fair to hold him to a different standard. He may be remaking movies in a sense, but it certainly has a fresh take on the material. That's a helluva lot better than most of the remakes I've seen.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST

    QT could never make something as brilliant as There Will Be Blood

    by Billy_D_Williams

    or even No Country For Old Men...because PT anderson and the Coens weren't drowning in movie references when they made those movies, they just told the story and told it fucking brilliantly, purely and simply without letting fucking homages and self indulgent dialogue get in the way... the problem with ripping people off and so many homages in one film is that it becomes like a Frakenstein monster, cobbled together from many different parts that dont flow together very well...and you can make a really good Frankenstein monster, but it will only ever be that, slow, clumsy, brutish, retarded, etc...you can never make a beautiful, intelligent, coherent human like natural birth...weird metaphor, but it makes my point....true originality can't be faked and the best movies are drowning in references. QT has his head firmly entrenched up his own ass...and all the marijuana and sycophantic fans in the world licking his nuts will never allow him to break through that ceiling into greatness... until he sits down, tosses all (or most) references out the window, and just tells a story, without trying to push the narrative with dialogue...will he ever join his buddy PT anderson (a filmmaker who has evolved out of the references in Boogie Nights and Magnolia) in the hall of greatness...we saw flashes of potential in his first three films, but filmmakers only have a few great films in them, and i fear QT is way past his prime.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Oh and scrote:

    by UltraTron

    Go fuck yourself.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by richievanderlow

    That's all good, I don't see Tarantino trying to do anything different than make movies the way he wants to. He's not trying to make movies like Anderson or the Coens. If you or others don't like his films, or don't think they're worthy of putting up against others, then that's cool.. but i don't see him trying to be a straightforward storyteller and tell movies in a more conventional manner. He's not the first director to stick to a definitive filmmaking style that feels entirely his own... Kubrick certainly comes to mind as he has a visual style that in all its variety, feels recognizable in every film. Michael Mann has a way of shooting that is just as familar, but not suited to every story he tells. In contrast, you can have a Steven Spielberg that is all over the place in every way. Doesn't make them bad directors and/or writers, but I don't think saying Tarantino wouldn't make a movie like Anderson or the Coens is the same thing as he couldn't. He's not going to make a movie that isn't a little bit ridiculous. If that keeps one from taking him seriously, then that's up to the individual. I personally don't think a filmmaker has to make a certain kind of film to be considered great.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST

    richievanderlow

    by Billy_D_Williams

    The Brother's Bloom, District 9, Tetro, Enter The Void, Limitless, Time Crimes, anti-christ, Slumdog Millionaire, Lost in Translation, One Hour Photo, City Of God, There Will Be Blood, Synecdoche New York, The Wrestler, Paranormal activity... i could go on, but i wont...plenty of originality out there... QT doesn't seem interested in originality and his art suffers for it, but if people want to keep licking his balls, knock yourself out.

  • April 30, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    for the record: if you're not in a complete state of giddy,

    by UltraTron

    cinematic bliss while watching a tarantino film then you are living your life terribly wrong

  • April 30, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Michael Biehn deserves another shot

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    He should have been Quaritch, doesn't matter if it would have been a similar role to Coffey. Cameron screwed him there.<P> Fantastic presence to the guy, he is above all the dtv shite that he has to do.

  • Bringing your 'a game' today?

  • April 30, 2011, 1:39 p.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by richievanderlow

    I can rattle off elements of each of those (I've seen most, but not all) that are not really original concepts.. but directors perhaps presented them originally. I will point out that something like Slumdog millionaire is not really original, it was based in reality. I'd say Inception was something close enough to an original concept, but its still not totally original. My point is, there's nothing really new under the sun. Everything you watch in the theatre or on TV is influenced in some way, shape, form or amount.

  • April 30, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST

    turd

    by Billy_D_Williams

    im not saying i dont want to watch QT films because he rips people off, so i dont need to "check out"...you're missing the point as well...as a film fan, like most people here, and an admirer of his films, i see areas where he's greatly lacking and can improve...and thats no different than criticizing Spielberg or Michael Bay for their own peculiar self made filmmaking boobytraps...no one is above criticism, and it doesnt mean we shouldn't be watching QT's movies. i dont like that all or nothing attitude...its like "if you dont like his films, dont watch them"...its not that simple. QT made a brilliant Jackie Brown, then his films declined in quality...the lunatics took over the asylum so to speak...QT's entire filmmaking endeavor became about the homages first and foremost, and that seriously hurt the movies...IB was a step in the right direction, but there will always be a cap on how good his films can be, because you're only as good as your references if you constantly use them. If QT sat down and wrote something totatally original, without the numerous references, im positive we'd see his best work to date...he did that with Jackie Brown for the most part, except it was from a novel.

  • April 30, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    richievanderlow

    by Billy_D_Williams

    now you're cheating...your original argument was excusing QT's blatant rip off tactics by saying there's nothing new under the sun...but the films i listed are def. original...as original as you can be these days...this is entirely different than what QT does, which is use the homages as the entire CLOTH the movie is taken from. Reservoir Dogs is basically a scene for scene rip off of City On Fire (at least in the last 30 minutes), all his other movies are basically same hooker in a new dress syndrome...none of the films i listed go that far...they are as original as you can get these days.

  • April 30, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Yeah...

    by GroolDemon

    I think Turd might be on his A game today. Well done good sir. I agree... the thing about Tarantino is to take the guy seriously, but just not too seriously. Ultimately, there is a difference, subtle as it may be, between homage and a complete ripoff. Every story written is in some way shape or form a "ripoff" of some previous story written. The thing is, that after years and years of watching or reading tons and tons of movies and books it is easy to catch the threads and similarities. In the end, it really is true that there are only 7 basic story plots and 20 premises, but it is what you do with the characters, setup, and even tipping the hat a bit within those plots that makes it original. Or at least, that is the way I see it.

  • April 30, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    grooldemon

    by Billy_D_Williams

    yes there are only a few plots one can grab from...the problem with QT is he lets the references inform his entire story and not the other way around. it's like he takes several movies, writes down every scene from those movies on index cards, shakes them all up in a bag, pulls a few dozen out, spreads them out on the floor in a sequence and then makes a new title. thats the feeling i get when i watch his movies and it takes me out of the movie, rather than submerge me in it... and i dont get that same feeling with other filmmakers... it allows me to enjoy their movies so much more.

  • April 30, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    I hated.......

    by Number9997

    ......IB the first time I watched it. Then, I went back and watched it again! I absolutely love it after I saw it again and gave it another chance. I think people were disappointed because they were expecting a QT version of Saving Private Ryan with lots more action! Instead, QT gave you something more in tune to an episode of Seinfeld with WW2 as background noise. Imo, it is a plotless movie riddled with over the top characters paying an obsessive amount of attention to their moment in time and their surroundings. I think the dialogue and character interaction is rather brilliant. If you could change your perspective about what you expect from the movie, you might find a new appreciation for it. I don't think it is a pretenious film at all. I think QT makes films with the audience in mind. Also, if you didn't like Hurt Locker, give that film another go. It definitely deserved the Oscar that year. When you watch a film, try to remove your bias and judge it for what it is. As as WWII men on a mission film, IB fails. As a movie with sharp dialogue and stunningly concise character interactions, the film is brilliant. As for Brad Pity playing it "hammy," have any of you fucking idiots ever met a "good ole boy" from the South? They are all that way. Its part of their easy-going nature. Brad Pitt sounded and acted just like someone from Tennessee backcountry! Plus, you could tell he was having fun with the role! Watch the movie again. Maybe you will find something of.value in it!

  • April 30, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Nuts to Inglorious Bastards

    by thommcg

  • April 30, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST

    I actually......

    by Number9997

    ....would love to see QT direct the Superman movie. He could play up the great dialogue you would need to have between Lois/Clark, Superman/Lex Luthor, and Superman/Super powered villain! Plus, the man can set up a dramatic me versus you action scene. Kill Bill was proof of that. I was able to follow every nuance of the fight sequences and overpowered at the same time. Damn I wish that could happen! Nolan's Batman films are spot on! QT would nail Superman!

  • April 30, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by GroolDemon

    I laughed thinking about that index card reference... I don't know why but I can see Tarantino all bugged out and shuffling through that shit on the floor like some kind of squirrely shut in. That said though, I'm sure we all could name more than a few directors that could be charged of the same offense. Truthfully, us talkbackers can be charged of that same offense. There's only so many things we can bitch about or points that can be made. Though, from time to time, there is that one talkbacker or series of posts from various talkbackers that completely changes the tide to make it interesting, fresh, funny, or causes us all to call for blood. That's how I see Tarantino. He's like a rogue talkbacker that completes some overall statement by saying something we've all heard a billion times before in a different enough way that if feels new.

  • April 30, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    That said...

    by GroolDemon

    I ain't trying to change anybodies mind either. I like Tarantino, you don't. Love or hate the guy, we all gotta admit that anytime the QT subject comes up it is always a fucking hot point of contention on here. Just like Lucas or Cameron...

  • April 30, 2011, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Childs

    by GroolDemon

    Yeah, this site has been down more than the reactors at Fukushima lately... Too soon?

  • April 30, 2011, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Looks fake

    by BradZuhl

    can someone compare this to Tarantino's other handwriting and see if it matches up at all? i know he's pretty much illiterate but this looks like a 6 year old wrote it.

  • April 30, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST

    QT should call it a "Sawmill" Western

    by TheJudger

    It takes place in the South. Sawmill- as in "Sawmill Gravy/White Gravy" as in the "Cuisine" of the South. Sounds like a Mash'Em'Up of Blaxspoit and Spag. The leaked plot details are giving me a major Legend of Nigg** Charley Trilogy vibe. Which is fine by me. A black man taking revenge on evil white men. Should be a wild ride. Of course it will offend and upset people. So what!

  • I enjoyed both cuts of it, I didn't mind the dialogue I was interested but maybe because I was interested in some of things they spoke about and brought back memories. and i did like the nods to some of the old moves like Dirty Mary Crazy Larry and Vantage Point.

  • April 30, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    grooldemon

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i never said i didn't like QT, where did i say that?

  • April 30, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST

    /film has confirmed the title...

    by dcut75

    And added a plot synopsis. All you anti-Tarantino douches should read it, then come back and tell us if it sounds like a rip off!

  • April 30, 2011, 3:05 p.m. CST

    turd

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i never said i was expecting it...i said its something he SHOULD move toward...and you dont know he will NEVER provide it...do you have some sort of time machine or crystal ball? and he's being more criticized now for his overtly genre work because it's simply not that good...The Kill Bills and Death Proof were disposable cinema, and what once made his work shine, brought forth a stench of mediocrity. QT performs a tight rope act the way he does things...it either works or it doesn't... IB was much better...but people are question his style now because he can do better, we've seen it with Jackie Brown...everyone said the same thing about the Coens during their slump, then No Country shut everybody up...this has yet to happen with QT...while really good, IB is nowhere near No Country, and I dont think QT is capable of making a movie that brilliant because he's too far up his own ass. ever hear the term "get out of your own way?"...filmmakers do their best work when they get out of their own way. PT anderson did it, The Coens did it, Jarmusch does it constantly, so does Cronenberg, Kubrick did it on nearly every film, which is why he's a master. I separate QT from these guys because he places himself in a very small cage...and while he does brilliant work in that cage, his contemporaries are running around in the fields doing even better work. IMO. of course. i dont expect QT to do anything, merely making observations.

  • April 30, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Django means "I Awake" add "Unchained" to it

    by TheJudger

    The title seems pretty clear to me. It's a Southern Slave Revenge Story.

  • April 30, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    I'm in.

    by UltimaRex

    That is all.

  • April 30, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Looking forward to this

    by Hipshot

    Love Tarantino. Half way into "Basterds" I realized it wasn't a WW2 movie--it was a movie about WW2 movies. The Brad Pitt section was a REALLY bad revenge fantasy movie, welded to an almost art-house war film, with the two halves slowly coming together by the end of the film. Notice the way Waltz' acting suddenly shifted and became broad when he sat in front of Pitt? He was in another movie! Tarantino plays wonderful games, taking parts from different films and sewing them together, damned near cinematic mosaics, not "remakes" at all. (Reservour Dogs is probably the most derivative, but then it was his first effort, a film deliberately designed to be shot with a zero budget). I understand the hate--the man is a big kid. He is also a consummate professional. When he directed the episode of "CSI" it was said that they had never, ever seen a director as well prepared. He's not to every taste, but the man genuinely loves movies, and I love what he does.

  • And that makes him extremely jealous and pissed off. They made the pictures Q wants to make but did it better, without all the extra bullshit that he puts into his pictures. Quentin goes too far w/ the dialog on every film. He simply can't help himself and it takes away from the movies.

  • April 30, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Quint, notice how QT capitalizes the title --

    by MooseMalloy

    -- even when writing it out in pencil! Haha, get with the program dude.

  • April 30, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Haters will Hate but will also go see the movie...

    by Tarantinos_Forehead

    SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!

  • April 30, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Also, add another vote for DEATHPROOF

    by MooseMalloy

    Yes, some of the heavy dialogue scenes go on a little too long, but that's not enough for me to hate this great film from QT.

  • April 30, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST

    I keep waiting for QT to mature as an artist

    by Manatee

    Hasn't happened yet. Well, at least not as a writer. It's like his entire career has been one long homage to his influences. While he occasionally has an interesting take on things, I'd love for him to aim his creative energy at a thoroughly original production. While he's still a relatively young guy, he's been around now for over 20 years. I feel like his movies are fun, but they aren't very interesting. I don't know... it just feels like the guy isn't challenging himself anymore. Right now, QT is more like a DJ mixing up his favorite tunes than a director crafting new and interesting films.

  • April 30, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST

    SCORE

    by lucky slevin

    looks like the old emulsion brain's handwriting alright. I am psyched for this. on a side note i seem to be one of the few on these message boards who Loved Every Second of Deathproof. i guess i can understand that its not for everyone. but , i mean , kurt russel.. as a .. murdering stunt driver? and the mass of you loathed it? its just, incomprehensible. i have a feeling a few of you need to stop rehearsing this anti-deathproof spiel you've let snowball since the first time you saw it in theatres however fuck many years ago and give it another shot. Also, Jackie Brown is better than most of your favorite movies. (you just don't realize that yet)

  • April 30, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST

    billy d williams

    by GroolDemon

    I read back over your post... I think it was just one of those lost in translation things. Type never reads as well as spoken words. Anyways, on my first read over I thought you were commenting that it was a bad thing or something... Which it is to a degree, but is also genious if done right. Anyways, my bad, and you still made a good point. My deal is that I like QT but I don't find his work perfect in the least either. He's fallable just like any other director. Fuck, honestly, I think I am just in a shitty mood today personally. Like, I've been staring at this logo I'm working on for too long, but can't turn away because I want it to be perfect, and it just ain't going my way. I need a break...

  • April 30, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST

    166 pages is only 2 hours and 46 minutes, not 3 hours plus.

    by Robert79797979

    Yep.

  • April 30, 2011, 4:41 p.m. CST

    "mature as an artist"

    by Adelai Niska

    So you want QT's "Bridges of Madison County?" I don't know how anyone can watch the opening of Basterds and think that's not a top filmmaker in fine form.

  • April 30, 2011, 5:05 p.m. CST

    tamethecunt

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i agree...i dont think QT can ever make something as good as No Country or There WIll Be Blood because his rambling, self conscious dialogue and overdone references always get in the way, taking you out of the movie....the problem with Quentin Tarantino's movies is every character sounds like Quentin Tarantino.

  • April 30, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST

    What the QT bitchers aint figured out

    by TheJudger

    You don't care for his revenge flicks. Which began it's cycle with Kill Bill and as of yet has not stopped. The flicks before this were "Caper" types. Yes there was revenge in all of these other flicks but the play about was Caper'ish. Everyone geek I hear wax the philosophic on QT is always loving up on his older flicks RD PF JB and knocking all the Revenger's like KB DP and IB. I guess what they want, and they don't know is that them there Caper stuff. More RD PF JB, Less KB DP IB.

  • April 30, 2011, 5:10 p.m. CST

    manatee

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i totally agree.

  • April 30, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST

    thejudger

    by Billy_D_Williams

    how the fuck is Pulp Fiction a caper flick?

  • April 30, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by richievanderlow

    I guess we'll just have to disagree to disagree because you just lost me in your last response to my post. Saying those movies are as original as anything out there in today's film landscape doesn't help your argument. Cinema is as unoriginal as its ever been. But, I don't see the differences you mention. Q revels in a reconstructionist approach to films that are homages to genres as much as they are to whatever source material they may be derived from. Within that context they're fun and feel fresh to me. As I've said, if you don't like that style, you don't like it, and that's cool... but he's as original as anyone else out there in today's landscape. As versatile? Perhaps not. As straightforward? Absolutely not. Either way.. more QT movies, please.

  • April 30, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST

    richievanderlow

    by Billy_D_Williams

    cinema is as unoriginal as its ever been? How is Lost In Translation any less original than something like Easy Rider, which is basically a riff on biker movies? or how is Time Crimes any less original than any other old time travel flicks? please identify this magical time in cinema where movies were MORE original than the ones i listed... while most movies today are studio factory generated garbage, there are some really original gems coming out.

  • Just sayin'.

  • April 30, 2011, 6:25 p.m. CST

    his films aren't perfect but I find them immensely entertaining

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    His movies have always been talky. But his earlier films did a better job of mixing up the conversations and cutting them up more. Now the conversations are longer and wordier, and at his worst(Death Proof) there are overly long drawn out scenes of inane chattering. I still liked Deathproof, though. It still had great characters and an interesting story and original ideas. The action scenes were exciting and well shot/choreographed. I think Inglorious Bastards was guilty of the same thing. I thought the scenes in the restaurant were too talky and were uncreative. I also agree that the Hitler assassination scene could have been better. It's still a brilliant film, however. Obviously Tarantino is well-suited to direct a western movie, I'm much looking forward to it. He should get Brad Pitt again, he was great in Jesse James.

  • April 30, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST

    CAN"T...

    by KHjLL

    Mutherfucking wait... I wrote DJANGO into one of my films... Fucking awesome not enough WESTERNS in a year my most anticipated film next to THE HOBBIT...

  • April 30, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST

    DJANGO flicks

    by KHjLL

    I've only got like 10 so far lovem all...

  • April 30, 2011, 6:31 p.m. CST

    cotygeek

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i never said i dont like QT...am i not allowed to criticize someone? its like you cant criticize someone without being accused of not liking them or their work...

  • April 30, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Audition?

    by KHjLL

    Where can I get on board?

  • April 30, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Wasn't talking about you specifically.

    by cotygeek

    Just the people that know they don't like Tarantino and yet feel compelled to tell the world they don't like him. Just seems like they could be doing something constructive.

  • April 30, 2011, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Let's end this conversation

    by Raggles Wimpole

    I love how everyone calls QT a hack & accuses him of stealing stuff from other movies. He isn't the first. Stanley Kubrick, who many have claimed is the greatest director of all-time, ripped off Toshio Matsumoto's "Funeral Parade of Roses" when he made "A Clockwork Orange."

  • April 30, 2011, 7:33 p.m. CST

    colossalgoatfuck69

    by Billy_D_Williams

    clockwork orange was adapted from the novel of the same name...i think you're accusing the writer of the book, not Kubrick

  • April 30, 2011, 7:49 p.m. CST

    QT should cut all dialogue and make it an almost silent film

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    That would be a would be a challenge and the ultimate homage to Sergio Leone. And I don't have a problem with long dialogue scenes unless they fail to entertain. I loved Basterds and wouldn't change a thing about it.

  • Am I right?

  • April 30, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    QT couldn't make a silent film

    by Billy_D_Williams

    he'd go nuts

  • April 30, 2011, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Knowing Tarantino, Django will be chick

    by chien_sale

    that will fire knives into men's penises

  • April 30, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST

    I don't care anymore.

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 30, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST

    BDW how PF is Caper'ish

    by TheJudger

    Via wiki: The caper story is a subgenre of crime fiction. The typical caper story involves one or more crimes (especially thefts, swindles, or occasionally kidnappings) perpetrated by the main characters in full view of the reader. The actions of police or detectives attempting to prevent or solve the crimes may also be chronicled, but are not the main focus of the story.

  • He does n['t have the balls to go out and create a There will be blood. He gets by just like his best buddy, Rodriguez on the same ole same ole. And it's boring. He was going in the right direction until after Jackie Brown, which is his most mature film. And at least his third best. After that, he lost his mojo and decided to not venture out and take chances sadly. Just regurgitated crap from another time. I'd even give the benefit of the doubt if he did a one for one type of every other film. But he won't try it one fucking time. It's weak and pathetic and it doesn't help when the writers of this site treat him like the second coming. With all the asskissing that goes on w/ Harry and co, nobody gets more hype than QT on here. It was sickening the way these clowns went on and on bout how great that major piece of shit, Grindhouse was. But what do you expect on here. QT has a lifetime pass around these parts.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Turd Has Risen: I couldn't of said it better

    by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST

    QT creates something completely new and invigorating while paying homage to things old and classic. If you don't think QT has any talent, then you know fuck all about writing and/or directing. Tarantino, imo, is the most exciting writer/director to come on the scene in the last 20 years. But keep on hating, haterz! I love watching y'all squirm everytime QT empties his fanboy mind and creates something deliriously inspired.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:18 p.m. CST

    COUNTRY BOY...

    by KHjLL

    The title page looks like my hand writting... Mine is really unreadable so was SAM PECKINPAH's ...

  • April 30, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Not Surprising.

    by ThatEndDown

  • April 30, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    TAMElimpdick...you R a C...

    by KHjLL

    And a idiot if you feel that way... None of TARANTINO's films are remotely a like... But they are TARANTINO films... Just like all the directors you mentioned all their films are different but they are all that DIRECTORS style of film HARD EIGHT is a lot like THERE WILL BE BLOOD... Just like RESERVOIR DOGS is different from PULP FICTION which is different than DEATH PROOF which is different than INGLORIOUS BASTERDS which is going to be different than DJANGO UNCHAINED... If we got a TARANTINO film that was RESERVOIR DOGS every year I'd be COOL with that... Now LEONE made the SAME WESTERN over and over same with PECKINPAH... but everyone was different... Why would TARANTINO shy away from what he knows and the films he loves... PECKINPAH hated it... look at how fans and viewers turned on him... He wanted everything he touched to be a WESTERN and dickheads like you couldn't see his real SHYNE...

  • April 30, 2011, 9:34 p.m. CST

    TAME THE limp dick you bring up ANDERSON...

    by KHjLL

    ANDERSON and THE COEN brothers have been following ROBERT ALTMAN's career with there own in many ways... HARD EIGHT - BOOGIE NIGHTS - THERE WILL BE BLOOD all have the same feel.. but they are all different films.... The coen brothers and Anderson are huge ALTMAN fanatics like TARANTINOS a huge DE PALMA - LEONE - CORBUCCI - PECKINPAH - etc... FAN ... What I want to KNOW is what have you made in the last 20 years to validate any of your trolling garbage....

  • April 30, 2011, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Not Surprising.

    by ThatEndDown

    Honestly. Tarantino wanting to make a spaghetti western is not a shock at all. Let's face it, every one of his films has been an homage to his love of exploitation genres. His first two films were homages to the crime genre. Jackie Brown was an obvious blaxploitation riff. The thing is, with those three films, he disguised it enough so that if you weren't familiar with grindhouse/exploitation films, you wouldn't really know. With Kill Bill, he just stopped giving a fuck about hiding the fact that he was "ripping off" all his favorite genres. And his films have gotten worse as a result. Kill Bill is good if you watch them as two separate films; when watched together as the "whole bloody affair" it just does not work. Death Proof was . . . . yeah. Inglorious Basterds had its moments but, for the most part, I found myself looking for something to do while watching.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:37 p.m. CST

    HOMEAGES...

    by KHjLL

    If a director or writer isn't trying to pay homeage and have directors and writers they want to emulate in ways... Than I don't want to see their films because it means they aren't inspired...

  • April 30, 2011, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Speaking of too much dialogue: Elmore Leonard's latest novel

    by kabong

    "Djibouti" is flawed because Leonard went hog-wild with dialogue. Characters talk about what they see on their documentary about Somali pirates. It's a strange and unsatisfying narrative style that I hope Leonard drops fast.

  • April 30, 2011, 9:44 p.m. CST

    What I don't get about Readers in ho;lywood...

    by KHjLL

    I did what Anderson did with GOTTI in college... I took every action lines I could find and a pplied it to my SCREENPLAY only thing different was my dialog... And people told me it was written wrong... don't get it...

  • April 30, 2011, 9:47 p.m. CST

    khjll, if you think There Will Be Blood feels like Boogie Nights...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    you're smoking crack...the two couldn't feel more different...cant say the same about any of QT's movies except maybe Jackie Brown

  • April 30, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    SUKIYAKI WESTERN DJANGO -- Takashi Miike

    by Wookie_Weed

    Ironically, Tarantino acted in this. I'd say this is where his "inspiration" comes from.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:08 p.m. CST

    geoffrey

    by Billy_D_Williams

    thanks buddy...been pretty lonely on here defending my views on why QT is not all he's cracked up to be...i liken him to those Bose home theater speakers...people think they're great because they're small and loud, but they're shit compared to other speakers.

  • April 30, 2011, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Michael Jai White should star as Django

    by Jet Jaguar

  • April 30, 2011, 10:55 p.m. CST

    looks legit, lol

    by AzzyAzzy

    ya, seriously. lol.

  • April 30, 2011, 11:08 p.m. CST

    I was hoping the title would be Merry Christmas Django

    by seabiscuits

    but this one is good too.

  • April 30, 2011, 11:20 p.m. CST

    It looks like the Zodiac killer wrote this script

    by successor

    <p>Man, Quentin Tarantino has some really bad penmanship.</p> <p>As for Inglorious Basterds, my problem with it is simple. The action scenes were good and some of the dialogue, particularly Raine's speech and the ending, was fantastic. But QT is too much in love with his own voice and rarely has his characters shut up and actually do something. They just talk on and on and on until it becomes insufferable. Drama comes from the Greek word dran, which means to do or to act. But his characters in Basterds hardly ever do anything. And by the time they get around to doing something, the dialogue had long since worn me out.</p>

  • April 30, 2011, 11:24 p.m. CST

    khjill

    by weed4504

    I agree with the above poster that you are insane if you think There Will Be Blood feels anything like Boogie Nights. I'd love to hear you explain that one. And also, your comments about The Coen Brother's being influenced by Altman doesn't make any sense. I have no idea if they're big fans or not, but I don't see anything in their work that reflects that. Altman was all about finding moments and letting the actors do what they want and improv and often changing large chunks of the script. The Coen's are notorious for being extremely strict about their dialogue, not even allowing actors to change a syllable. Also the stories they are telling and the tone they are striking in no way reflects Altman's sensibilities. Once again. I'd love to hear an explanation. I don't think you have one.

  • April 30, 2011, 11:34 p.m. CST

    I'll join the defense team for Death Proof

    by jules windex

    I enjoyed the hell outta that flick, but its his least substantial effort. IB had some amazing scenes but a couple were just endless and dull.

  • April 30, 2011, 11:44 p.m. CST

    jpdisco...

    by Somerichs

    that's a movie i'd like to see...

  • Like Inglorious but with slave owners instead of Nazis.

  • May 1, 2011, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Don't why Death Proof counts

    by MCVamp

    It's QT's equivalent of a Richard Bachman novel. Hastily slapped together and sloppily presented on purpose. He should have used a pseudonym...I'd say the same thing about Planet Terror but...well, okay, Rodriguez pretty much approached it like he approaches all his flicks. That's not to say Death Proof was great, or to excuse it's flaws. Let's just say it aims for excellence in mediocrity and it succeeds. If a lesser actor than Russell had portrayed Stuntman Mike, though, there really wouldn't be anything to sustain it. To quote Bale_trashed_my_lights: "All I can recall are a bunch of feet, some girls talking like Quentin Tarantino and Kurt Russell doing something interesting in a movie that actually wasn't that interesting." Yeah, that's pretty much the sum of it. When it ended, I was ready for it to end. And man, does that dude love him some feets.

  • May 1, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Wow. All you kids in here...

    by MC-909

    A story about QT really brings all the young'uns out of the woordwork, doesn't it? Khjll or whatever...you've got a lot of passion, kid, I'll give you that. But I'd be willing to bet you're either 20 years-old or just found out who Quentin Tarantino is. Not that there's anything wrong with that. In fact, I truly believe "Tarantino Discussion" is one of the cornerstones of being a successful geek. But dude, watch and study some more films before you start spouting off like...well...some 20 year-old film school student. Just to give you an examples of what I'm talking about (based on your post): "None of Tarantino's films are alike." Incorrect. All of QTs films are set in the same world, have the same atmosphere and same mood. They're not all the same, but they are all most definitely all alike. They are all Quentin Tarantino films and you can tell. If you can't see that, then you don't understand the art of film.

  • May 1, 2011, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Uhh anyone who say Tarantino can't direct is nuts...

    by Kelly Grimes

    He's one of the best living directors around. The opening scenes in IB should prove that alone. The rest of the movie, however, perfectly illustrates what a god-awful, unoriginal, scattered writer he is. He cuts and pastes his scenes, all the characters sound the same, and he drops all forms of subtlety in favor of fan service. Jackie Brown is his best work. He wrote the script based off one of the best fiction writers of the past century, Elmore Leonard (someone who obviously was a giant influence). I think the movies he's done since JB are about average, with IB being my least favourite of them all. He needs to do more work based around things like a novel, instead of ten different movies from a single genre. He even managed to work in his banal chatter about his movie expertise into Jackie Brown without it becoming too grating. In every other movie it's just obvious, pretentious, and flat out masturbatory.

  • May 1, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    As far as Mr. Tarantino is concerned...

    by MC-909

    I really like the idea of a QT slave revenge movie (if that's what this is about) but I would have liked it a lot more had he not done three/four revenge flicks in a row. I love Quentin but, Jesus Christ, he needs to get off the revenge shit already. He needs to write an "active" script, not a "re-active" one. He needs to do a sports movie. Or a science-fiction movie. Or a science-fiction sports movie...without revenge. Or guns. (actually, nevermind. With or without guns, Scifi sports movies are always terrible) I'll stand by QT until the day he retires or the day his neck, unable to support the weight of his massive head any longer, finally breaks. But if the dude makes one more revenge movie or another Deathproof, I will be forced to send a sternly-worded email to Mr. Tarantino informing him that PT Anderson has now taken over the number one spot on my coveted list of favorite directors.

  • May 1, 2011, 1:24 a.m. CST

    WEED4504

    by KHjLL

    The COEN BROTHERS films reflect the films that ALTMAN made I'm not saying they were shot or acted the same but their FILMOGRAPHY is similar... BOOGIE NIGHTS and THERE WILL BE BLOOD are the same kind of writing and characters dialogue or how they go about their business... the PACING's the same even the orginization of the film is similar... But most of all the way the dialog and character developement is the same they are about two different things I KNOW that but they are similar and a person who has never seen either mixed with a bunch of films they haven't seen should be able to tell the the two were shot by the same person.... A BILLY-D-WILLIAMS if I was it's my choice CRACK ain't wack- wack jobs are WACKED... ;)

  • May 1, 2011, 1:31 a.m. CST

    MC-99...

    by KHjLL

    You need to read before you TB to somebody... I never said you couldn't tell a TARANTINO film apart and yes they are all different films... I'm not talking about the WORLD... the FILMS each have a different plot different characters and genres... Which are all different from one another... I think it's the SHIT TARANTINOS like the Comic Film maker except he films instead of draws... I bet you don't even know what FILM most of TARANTINOS scores come from or what 2 films?___________ Another question where does the ingraving of the forehead come from? _______ you my friend need to take READING classes and PSYCHIC class before you talk about someone on the internet you know nothing about...

  • May 1, 2011, 1:33 a.m. CST

    WEED4504

    by KHjLL

    Also BOOGIE NIGHTS and THERE WILL BE BLOOD have ALTMAN written all over them...

  • May 1, 2011, 1:39 a.m. CST

    DJANGO UNCHAINED

    by KHjLL

    I can't wait- if it's a slavery revenge FILM all the more better the best spaghetti is made with REVENGE - MEATBALLS and BLOODY looking sauce... I wrote out and BLACK ensemble cast WESTERN in a NOTEBOOK locked & KEY away... CALL it eht THE LYNCH MOB...

  • May 1, 2011, 1:58 a.m. CST

    mozzerino... i hated it too

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    there were a few scenes that were great - but they belonged in a different movie - the opening farm hide out scene, the lunch with the jew hunter and fresh creme and the basement standoff - all the self aware shit in between those scenes did nothing but remind me that i was watching a QT movie - he's been hanging around the same crowd for too long - he is capable of greatness but falls victim to his hipster grindhouse contemporary referential shit - make a real fucking movie for a change - respect the period and verisimilitude of the story and world the story happens in - i get all of his cinematic homages, lifts and references - and they smack of laziness - if the coens can slum it and make a solid piece of genre like true grit, why cant QT give us a real war movie (or whatever) that doesnt spend most of its time waving his QT brand in my face... music from better movies that have nothing to do with the movie he put them in (like bowie from cat people), 70s blacksploitation narration to introduce a character, b-movie editing and setups) - i thought he got all that cut and paste shit out of his system with kill bill - make a fucking movie again - like pulp fiction or jackie brown - will there be motown and disco hits in his western? - probably

  • May 1, 2011, 2:13 a.m. CST

    kgrimes... i agree, but...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    those opening scenes set me up for a different experience than what i got - i was more than excited and ready for a great period war movie after that opening (in IB) - he is a great director - too bad he chickened out and went the way he did for IB - critics and fans called it ballzy - i found it annoying, ham fisted and not funny where it was trying so hard to be - but then, maybe i outgrew "that" QT - he is still selling himself but to a new group of moviegoers - the ones that were in first grade when reservoir dogs hit - i rolled my eyes so much during IB i got a headache - underneath its lurid self awareness and contempo-ball-licking sloppy aggression there was a good movie - in my opinion

  • May 1, 2011, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Can you tell in every scene that you're watching a Spielberg film?

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    I think so. Laziness? Seriously? It's obvious by watching Inglorious Bastards that a lot of work, care and attention went into that script and production. It's an extremely high quality work of art. What you are complaining of is called style. It's not going away.

  • May 1, 2011, 4:23 a.m. CST

    and munich

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

  • May 1, 2011, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Aronofsky has never gone out of his comfort zone?

    by Sardonic

    What the hell was the Wrestler? That's about as "out of his comfort zone" as you can get with someone like Aronofsky, who had previously only done two extremely cerebral sci-fi-ish movies and one cracked out drug drama thing. Black Swan was like a merger between all of them.

  • May 1, 2011, 5:30 a.m. CST

    I love you guys...

    by sai_justin

    ...and everyone has an opinion - I get it. But there are NO constructive posters on this site. I can't imagine that any filmmaker actually gets past 2 or 3 comments EVER 'round here, at least not the intelligent ones (David S. Goyer, Akiva Goldsmith - I'm talking to you, please retire). Harry has you tools believing that you actually matter, but you MUST know that you're all just a bunch of fucking uninformed nerds voicing random opinions, and 2/3 of you are trolls. Right? I mean, you GOTTA realize this truth. I pray this is true - you can't ALL be that deluded. Eh? Please tell me I'm dry-humping a bit of the truth, or else Americana is truly hopeless.

  • May 1, 2011, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Oh, and @winona_ryders_pussy_juice

    by sai_justin

    If your handle doesn't prove me right, I don't know what will :(

  • May 1, 2011, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Death Proof is very flawed

    by Azby

    but what seems to have been missed is that it marked a subtle change in Tarantino's direction from simple homage to genre deconstruction. Death Proof was a deconstruction of exploitation films focusing on their treatment of women whereas IB was a comment on propaganda films. Tarantino's stated aim with this new 'Southern' was to deal with America's slave trade past, but do it as genre piece - continuing this trend. It seems however, the vast majority of film critics have completely missed this.

  • May 1, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Saw the original in college and was blown away. Pun intended.

    by CodeName

    This could be fun.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    winona_ryders_pussy_juice

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i wasnt complaining about his style - i was complaining about his execution - the 3 scenes in IB that i absolutely love are all QT style all the way - the dreck i hated was him making a lot of noise to fill space with "style" over substance - it is art as you said, i just dont like that art - even the title was a lift - is that a demonstration of original style or self congratulatory masturbation for his audience - spielberg is always spielberg, but he switches up a lot - hook, war of the worlds and schindlers list have nothing in common or any common tools for delivery (like using pop songs and popular slang etc from mismatching periods)

  • May 1, 2011, 11:11 a.m. CST

    maxcherry

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    pi, requiem, the fountain and the wrestler are extremely different in look and execution - to the unaware observer they would appear as made by different film makers - i cant say that about QT's last 4 movies - not a bad thing but im waiting for him to surprise me - even the coens gave us lebowski and no country - 2 vastly different movies in look, style and execution - yet still undeniably coen

  • May 1, 2011, 11:14 a.m. CST

    maxcherry i love QT...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    just want to see him drop his hat of tricks and do a straight up genre movie without his greasy retro pop culture fingerprints all over it to remind me its QT joint and not a movie - i want to suspend my disbelief during a movie not be reminded constantly through out that what im watching isnt real

  • May 1, 2011, 11:19 a.m. CST

    There's a diffrrence, thmastodon

    by D.Vader

    The Nightmare on Elm St remake *was* a horrible atrocity. Say what you will about Tarantino's influences, homages, patchwork thefts, his films still end up feeling much more original and heartfelt than shit like the by committee Nightmare remake.

  • May 1, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST

    How come no one answered my ?

    by KHjLL

    What two films have scores come from for a film Q wrote? What film did the Nazi sign engraving come from? Love the opening on the farm house the painted sets reminded me of VINCENT & THEO whether they were or not lots of films paint sets but VINCENT & THEO was the first that poped into my head.... Y can't people stop being TROLLS and HATERS and start throwing out some TARANTINO trivia since everyone is so movie knowledgeable or act like they know more than I or at least said they do... ANSWER my trivia MOVIE GEEKS lets her it!

  • May 1, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    why are you dubbed a QT "hater" for having an opinion?

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i love Spielberg but there are quirks about the man's work i cant stand...that doesnt mean im a hater. same with QT...so am i no longer allowed to see his movies because i feel like he can improve? what the fuck is that shit?

  • May 1, 2011, 12:58 p.m. CST

    GEORFFY what the....

    by KHjLL

    Fuck is that suppose to mean... Lutheran Boyscot and syrup? What the FUCK... don't nor have I ever had shit to do with either...

  • May 1, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    What is the deal...

    by KHjLL

    Everyone here is so all fucking knowing y can't any body answer a ? All it is is trolls chafing in here....

  • May 1, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST

    ?

    by KHjLL

    BADLANDS GATLING GUN NAVAJO JOE

  • May 1, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    GEOFFY_fourmyle .... I got it.... Sorry...

    by KHjLL

  • May 1, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    one of the main traits of a troll...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    excessive posting...as in four, five posts in a row

  • May 1, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Geoffy...

    by KHjLL

    sorry put up my defenses to quick... everyones being a troll everywhere today...

  • May 1, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST

    BILLY_D- what is your problem...

    by KHjLL

    I post ten - twenty post in a row but I never knock someone down.... I should even be responding.... But I will any way... I....

  • May 1, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST

    one

    by KHjLL

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    by KHjLL

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  • May 1, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST

    BILLY_D....

    by KHjLL

    Reading your post you seem to be mad at others success and by tearing others down make you feel empowered like you a complished something... Just a PSYCO analysis.... And you are the definition of a TROLL CHAFFER...

  • May 1, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    my 1st screenplaye by kwinten tarantino

    by brodiebruce_405

    aged six and two quarters

  • May 1, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    khjll

    by Billy_D_Williams

    you are the definition of a troll... excessive flood posting? check rambling, near incoherent posts? check

  • Literally. Beaks will banhammer your ass.

  • May 1, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST

    jimmy

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Spielberg has created many very different films, but if you went to the theater for each not knowing who directed them, you could probably figure it out. He has a very distinctive style of directing. There is a definitive Spielberg vibe to his films. Especially in the camera operation. I don't care if you don't like Tarantino's stylistic embelishments, that's your personal taste. But that's who Tarantino is, it comes from his personal love for specific genres and eras of filmmaking. It comes from his original artistic energy and is projected into his films. Asking him to make an Aronofsky film is like asking to take the filling out of an oreo cookie.

  • May 1, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST

    KHJILL

    by weed4504

    Once again, how are the Coen's filmography similar to Altman's? The Coens have generally gone back and forth between slaptsick/surrealist comedy and crime/noir dramas. Almost all of their films can be fit into those two categories. Their style IN NO WAY reflects Altman's in most of these pictures aside from maybe a few things here and there that are probably coincidental at best. Altman's filmography suggests a man who wasn't bound by any particular genre (not saying that the Coens are bound, I'm sure they can do anything, they just have stuck with a particular tone that's all theirs.) He could go and tell a Agatha Cristie-esque costume drama and follow it up with an almost impressionistic take on modern ballet. I don't think it means the Coens were influenced by him just because in the 70's he made a western (McCabe & Mrs. Miller) and a depression era gangster story (Thieves Like Us,) especially since their western (True Grit) and depression era gangster story (Miller's Crossing) are totally different in just about every way. Obviously there are things that overlap, like the silliness of Popeye seems at home in some of their films. I think the best comparison you have is The Big Lebowski and The Long Goodbye. But I've read a ton of interviews over the years with them and heard them discuss their influences and Altman has never shown up and I don't think their body of work can fairly be compared to his. Whether it be in directing style, acting style, or overall filmography. I agree that Anderson was influenced by him but I don't think anyone would argue with that, especially Anderson. And I also think you're grasping at straws with the Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood comparison. Boogie Nights is, in many ways, a young man's film. It's got energy and a vibrancy and a Hey-Ma-Look-At-Me! attitude that only a young director usually can pull off (I mean all of these things as a compliment.) There Will Be Blood was a big step forward for him in terms of language and visual storytelling. Daniel Plainview is unlike anyone Anderson has ever put on screen. There is definitely no one in Boogie Nights that compares in worldview or personality. Phillip Baker Hall is someone putting business first in the story but is only on screen for four minutes, so I don't think we can accurately compare them. Burt Reynolds is someone who deeply values his inherited family and lives to take care of them all. He craves to create a great film, not just make money. Plainview deeply cares about H.W. but could never express that in a way that Reynolds expresses it to his friends and family. They both have hearts but Plainview's is closed while Jack's is open. And in terms of visuals? Anderson was a rock star with Boogie Nights. The camera was going everywhere. It freeze-framed, whip-panned, tracked people for extended times in I Am Cuba inspired tracking shots. Slow motion was used. Cut-aways to imaginary things like the Dirk Diggler exploding sign worked fine in that movie. None of those things are prevalent in There Will Be Blood. The story doesn't allow for those. Anderson, although still a gorgeous film, slowed down the tricks and told the story as cleanly and efficiently as possible. Go back and read all the reviews when the movie first came out and you'll see how many people praised Anderson for maturing and finally becoming a true master filmmaker. Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood are both masterpieces. I'll fight anyone who argues. But they aren't masterpieces for the same reason. The themes, the characters, the storytelling, the direction, everything is different about them. Anderson is a master filmmaker but he had grown a lot in the ten years between those films. That's just my opinion.

  • May 1, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    CHOP

    by KHjLL

    I cried at work when I found out the news about the late SALLY MENKE felt like my HIGHSCHOOL and COLLEGE years were ripped away new I wasn't going to see that great CUT from the greatest EDITOR of our generation...

  • May 1, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    WEED...

    by KHjLL

    Great post bout time some does so... language and storytelling and presentation of characters are the same in BOOGIE NIGHTS and THERE WILL BE BLOOD... or to me the way the characters are presented and as much so with HARD EIGHT... I'm not talking about the visual storytelling... The ALTMAN and COENS filmography coinsciience is a conspiricy a friend of mine came up with... If you blend alot of ALTMAN together you get alot of COEN brothers films... THIEVES AMONG US and O BROTHER WHERE OUT THOU... KANSAS CITY/LONGGOOBYE you get MILLERS CROSING/FARGO - and a BIT of LEBOWSKI reflence the corkiness of THE LONGGOODBYE... i wasn't talking about all their films but some...

  • May 1, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    BILLY DEE WILLIAMS

    by KHjLL

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    BILLY DEE WILLIAMS

    by KHjLL

  • May 1, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST

    BILLY DEE WILLIAMS

    by KHjLL

    My in coherentness and writing is from a million miles an hour mind... SORRY bad day.... but does B D W the ACTOR or the BASEBALL PLAYER...

  • May 1, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST

    I just afan ...

    by KHjLL

  • May 1, 2011, 5:37 p.m. CST

    ONCE UPON A TIME....

    by KHjLL

    Watching THE GREAT NORTHFIELD MINNESOTA RAID as I dritft off into ONCE UPON A TIME....

  • May 1, 2011, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Sukiyaki Western Django

    by thelordofhell

    Anyone remember QT's atrocious appearance in that otherwise decent movie?

  • May 1, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST

    SUKIYAKI WESTERN DJANGO...

    by KHjLL

    TARANTINO was the shit in the opening and film... One of my favorite Q performances... I think he or Gandolfini should play the Penguin... Love the PRINT f mount FUJI I got a tattoo of mount FUJI on my neck its KATUSUSHIKA HKUSAU/WARHOL... Be to COOL to see TARANTINO - MIIKE - ROTH - RODRIGUEZ all on the same CREDIT sequence of a film... WESTERN and HORROR/SLASHERS

  • May 1, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST

    tarantino is all over the map

    by empty_headed_animal

    You get movies like Jackie Brown, Reservoir Dogs and Pulp fiction but you also get Death Proof, From Dusk till Dawn and yes, even Basterds. When he is on he's great but when he gets self indulgent he sucks ass.

  • May 1, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    CREDI SEQUENCE....

    by KHjLL

    I ment... TARANTINO - MIIKE - ROTH - RODRIGUEZ - FULLER - FORM - THOMAS - BAY - LYNCH - ADAM

  • May 1, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    KHJILL

    by weed4504

    You're going to need to be more detailed in your explanations because I'm consistently baffled. You can sit there and say "language and storytelling and presentation of characters are the same in BOOGIE NIGHTS and THERE WILL BE BLOOD... or to me the way the characters are presented and as much so with HARD EIGHT... I'm not talking about the visual storytelling... " but that doesn't mean anything. I'm really not the type to knock grammar on boards like these but these aren't fully developed thoughts or sentences. How is the language and storytelling and presentation the same in those two films? The presentation of characters? One is an ensemble piece with characters that are striving to be stars and be happy with their place in the world and each have specific goals and dreams. The other is stripped down so much that we really only spend time with four characters (Daniel, H.W., Eli, and Henry) despite being surrounded by many townspeople. They are all guarded and quiet and suspicious of one another in various ways throughout the story. The dialogue style is different, largely due to the time period difference. You need to provide specific examples of scenes or characters to explain this opinion. Just making vague statements doesn't make for a compelling argument. And the Coen thing is just ridiculous. Have you seen these movies? Kansas City is nothing like Miller's Crossing outside of period. They don't even take place in the same city. Miller's Crossing is never told but it's clearly New Orleans. And The Long Goodbye gets you Fargo? They both have guns in them but that's about it. I'm all for arguing about filmmakers and their specific filmography. You really do need to be more specific and give more in depth explanations because otherwise your arguments become very flat very quickly.

  • May 1, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST

    khjll - on the music etc

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i only saw IB once - but i recognized a lot of morricone - a bernstein cue from zulu dawn and a schifrin cue kelly's heroes - im a big fan of both of those movies - and while im not completely well versed in morricone's body of work, i know it when i hear it - i did recognized a cue from the big gundown - great lee van cleef euro western - oh and the bowie song from cat people, putting out the fire with gasoline - that song was even cooler in cat people - the point is, i saw it once and didnt need to study it to know all of the "cool window dressing" was borrowed and stolen from other movies - thats his m.o. - it was cool in pulp fiction and kill bill - now its tired - IB's story and actors were good enough to come across straight with no QT masturbation - am i the only one here that feels this? - i winced when i heard sam jackson's voice selling stiglitz along with 70s drive-in editing and disco font - people around me laughed so i guess that trick worked - that scene and the other big pay offs just reminded me that i was watching a ww2 movie for people that dont know jack shit about ww2 but liked grindhouse and hostel enough to sit through repeat viewings

  • May 1, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST

    will QT cast himself in this new one...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ... so he can say the N word ad nauseum

  • May 1, 2011, 8:55 p.m. CST

    weed4504

    by Billy_D_Williams

    dead fucking on, i totally agree with everything you said, good show

  • May 1, 2011, 9:05 p.m. CST

    jimmyjoe, well said

    by Billy_D_Williams

    i agree...QT gets himself strong casts, and his stories are compelling, but somehow he feels the need to inject all his semen into the thing and it just takes me out of the movie. I love IB, dont get me wrong, marveled at the use of dialogue to advance plot and story, but it was like watching a self aware artist in some sort of meta state...i can never seem to watch a QT movie and be totally sucked in, because every five minutes there's some kind of QT quirk that just ruins what was building just fine on its own.

  • May 1, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST

    dead nigger storage

    by Billy_D_Williams

    wonder if QT's character Jimmy from Pulp Fiction's great great grandfather will be the slave owner...would be pretty cool in the Taratinoverse

  • president about to make the official announcement! aint it cool?!

  • May 1, 2011, 10:40 p.m. CST

    who gives a fuck about Osama?

    by Billy_D_Williams

    this is a movie news site...if you went to the forums of some news site, would you report that QT just finished a fucking script?

  • May 2, 2011, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Sukiyaki Django was something to see... very whack..

    by impossibledreamers

    But that's par for the course.

  • May 2, 2011, 9:03 a.m. CST

    People didn't liked INGLORIOUS BASTERDS... boo hoo!!!

    by AsimovLives

    Back at ya for your disparaging coments about my dislike of Abrams Trek. Boo fucking hoo!

  • May 2, 2011, 9:05 a.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by AsimovLives

    Osama?? He wasn't your kindergarden buddy, man. He's Bin Laden to you, sir. Or rather, was.

  • May 2, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Basterds surprised me

    by Samuel Fulmer

    All the things I read about it and the trailer made me think it was going to be awful, but I was proven wrong.

  • May 2, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Django Kill! If You Live Shoot!

    by django_il_bastardo

    He's just using a cool name...no spaghetti here...

  • May 3, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Whats with him and using previous properties?

    by knowthyself

    Inglorious and now this? I wish he'd go back to his original stuff like Kill Bill.

  • May 3, 2011, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Basterds was laughable shit.

    by fiester

    Terrible movie--and I am not a Tarintino hater either! But that flick was just a messy bunch of stereotypes clowning around.