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THE LORD OF THE RINGS: Extended Editions To Return To AMC Theaters In June!

Nordling here.

I've seen the films too many times to count, and I didn't buy the theatrical edition Blu-Rays because I was holding out for the Extendeds, but if you just can't wait and want to see these films again on the big screen, AMC Theatres has got your ticket.  Three of them, actually.

According to TheOneRing and the AMC Theatres website, the Extended will be coming to theaters to ramp up for the Blu-Ray releases.  We'll be getting THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING on June 14th, 2011, THE TWO TOWERS on June 21, 2011, and THE RETURN OF THE KING on the same day of the Blu-Ray releases, June 28th, 2011.

I'd love to be able to sit down in a theater and watch all three Extendeds  - all the LOTR events I've seen don't play ROTK Extended, just the first two - for 12+ hours.  I've been through several BNATs - my ass can take it.  I'm assuming these will be the Blu-Ray transfers and not the film, which I'd prefer.  But I'll settle for seeing these on the big screen again any way I can get it. 

Nordling, out.

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  • April 26, 2011, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Very cool.

    by Jeffrey

  • April 26, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Cash grab....

    by darthderp

  • April 26, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Darn it, no AMC theaters in my area.

    by frank

    I would definitely attend these otherwise.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST

    "Cash grab...."

    by TheFanboy

    So fucking WHAT?

  • April 26, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST

    I watched all of these several months ago

    by rev_skarekroe

    Half a movie a night for a week. I like 'em less now than I did when I first saw them, that's for sure.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Who cares if it’s a cash grab?

    by frank

    It’s the EE of LotR in the theater.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    It's a pittance of a cash grab

    by StarWarsRedux

    But a cash grab nonetheless. I wonder if New Line/Weta tried doing a more high-profile rerelease, but were unable to get theaters interested. LOTR pretty much vanished from the public mind after ROTK came and went.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:32 p.m. CST

    not just AMC

    by honk_mahfah

    These aren't showing only in AMC theatres. They're showing in theatres that are partnered with NCM (National CineMedia), which supplies pre-show programming, satellite events, etc. There is a Cobb theatre in my area (Tuscaloosa, AL) which will be showing them, so if we're shownig them, I'd assume they'll be all over the place and relatively easy to find. Personally, I can't wait. It's definitely a cash grab, but what isn't? They're welcome to some of mine.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Cash grab? Sure but I like the move

    by Andrew Coleman

    Frankly I haven't seen the movies in years now. So seeing the extended films in theaters would be amazing. I hope I have the time or find a theater doing this.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    What? Did I hit a nerve?

    by darthderp

    It's a cash grab to me because the EEs are already out on DVD. Look, if this were a theater-only exclusive event, then I'd be saying "hell, yes," along with everyone else. But, the extendeds are out there to buy, so.... I'm not discouraging anyone from buying a ticket, just stating my opinion on the subject. I know that puts me barefoot in the middle of a minefield but, hey.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Your forgetting something...

    by darkslab

    This is an excellent opportunity for those who were too young at the time to go see this in theaters, to have the same cinematic experience we all had years ago. I may take my son to this, now that he's old enough to enjoy and understand the material. It was the same with the star wars re-releases, kids who only saw it on VHS or never experienced in a full fledged theater, got a chance to partake in the fun on a whole new level. Cash grab? Sure, but also an open invitation to those who were too young, or missed out at the original release. I'm all for it.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST

    I might skip Two Towers are well...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Weakest of three, but that's up for debate because I haven't seen them in so long.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    This better come to the UK

    by syn_flood

    or I'll be registering my disgust online for years to come!

  • April 26, 2011, 2:46 p.m. CST

    @ darkslab

    by darthderp

    I get what you're saying, and yes; I did go bonkers over the Star Wars SEs when they came out in the theaters, but again, those weren't out on video/dvd yet. That's the only reason why I called this...whatever. Didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition. Still, as a parent myself, the last thing I would do is shit on another dad sharing something he likes with his own kid. Hope he enjoys it, if you take him.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST


    by BSB

  • April 26, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Re:Two Towers

    by Koyaanisqatsi

    I actually like The Towers the most out of the films. It has the best narrative of the three films and it's precisely because it's the least faithful to the books which allows it have the kind of breathing room the FotR and RotK didn't have.

  • April 26, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    I work at an amc theater..

    by warsinthesun

    and it's hardly a cash grab. You can purchase all three tickets for 12 dollars. Also, Peter Jackson is going to introduce each film from the set of The Hobbit. This is more a marketing tactic than anything else.

  • Peter Jackson specifically said that the EE wasn't the director's cut, his preferred version was the theatrical edition. So is this something new?

  • April 26, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    warinthesun...$12 for 3 tickets??

    by darthderp

    Okay, that puts a different spin on it. Doesn't mean I'll be in line, but if Nordling had bothered to mention that, I'd be less quick to judge.

  • April 26, 2011, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Thanks Nordling

    by XoanonTORN

    Thanks for the TORN love Nordling! More great news on this event soon..working out the details with the WB overlords. Xoanon

  • April 26, 2011, 3:02 p.m. CST

    I still like the first movie the best

    by golden tribw

    I found all three enjoyable but the second movie didn't grab me (I love the climax with the Rohirrim swooping down that backed by sunlight and an incredible musical cue, but in my recollection a lot of the movie dragged) and the third one took way, way too long to end (I think it was a massive mistake to insist on using the exact ending of the book -- when the elf ship fades into blinding white, everyone was still kind of holding on in the theatre I first saw ROTK, but when it faded in outside Sam's hobbit hole there were audible groans and the woman beside me said "oh for fuck's sake" after seeming to have patiently enjoyed the entire film). In the first film everything is still mysterious, a single Rider is massive bad news (as opposed to later on when the threat inevitably escalates and there are enormous armies everywhere meaning single individuals lose most of their weight), Sauron hasn't been revealed as a giant flashlight yet, I love the musical cue ("Concerning Hobbits") that introduces Hobbiton, and the entire sequence in Moria is FUCKING EPIC from the moment they start riddling the door open to the Enya(?)-featuring song snippet that plays as they finally burst outside into the light after Gandalf falls.

  • April 26, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST


    by golden tribw

    I meant to write, "the climax with the Rohirrim swooping down that INCLINE backed by...", and I forgot to mention that Treebeard really counted against the second movie for me. I wouldn't say they could necessarily have done a "better job" with the character, but I'm sorry it simply was not important for him to talk like that wheezing black cripple-child from MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE..... God that god old fast. Gollum only got better and better throughout the second film, in contrast to pretty much everything else.

  • April 26, 2011, 3:08 p.m. CST

    re: Goldentribe, agree about Fellowship

    by awepittance

    it is my favorite as well. My only complaint about it was the non epic feel of the final battle scene in the forrest. Although i have to admit i did love the way they played the 'my king' scene. I thought it was a fitting emotional climax to the movie.

  • And then, right after the Sam/Frodo suckfest, right before the credits roll, Sam fucking flat out bricks in Frodo's mouth.

  • April 26, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST

    FotR, TTT extended cuts were great, RotK was dreadful!

    by irishraidersfan

    Strangely, the longer cuts made the first two better, IMHO, but RotK was like having my eyeballs peeled. Terrible!

  • April 26, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Ha, TTT released on my birthday!

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Only...will there be an intermission at the halfway point of these films? It's hard enough sitting through a three-hour movie without serious bladder overload (even sans the overpriced soda), so a 3 1/2 hour movie...eep.

  • April 26, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST

    can you say Overkill?

    by j_difool

  • April 26, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    This is cool, but I wish it came during a slower movie season.

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    Compared to the last couple of Summers, this Summer is jam packed with geek movie goodness. I would have loved to go to the theater and watch the LOTR trilogy again in the slow Fall season, but this Summer is already overflowing with stuff I will spend my hard earned money on first because I haven't seen any of it before. I understand their timing, but it just doesn't fit for me.

  • April 26, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    You people are NUTS

    by Nick

    Return of the King EE was GREAT. It actually made the ENDING battle make sense, with the mouth of Sauron showing them Frodo's chainmail. Not to mention an actually conclusion to Sauramon's story. What, did one internet douchebag say it sucked, and you all jump on that train cause it's the "cool" thing to bitch about in this series. Shut the fuck up.

  • April 26, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    The Mouth of Sauron in the extended ROTK...

    by Wolfman Nards

    Makes the extended versions worth it. Played such a big part of that final battle. I wish they talked about the Steward of Gondor having one of those seeing stones like Saruman did, which actually explains his madness. That I feel like was a pretty big mistake by Jackson. Oh yeah... and the whole end part where the badass hobbits go back the Shire and save it from Saruman. Oh well... there are a lot of "I wish the did this instead..." moments in those movies, especially the 2nd and 3rd film, but Fellowship is pretty damn close to perfection.

  • April 26, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    The scourge of the shire would have been

    by Nick

    dumb to include in the film. It would have been even more anti-climatic. Great choice to keep it out, just like Tom B.

  • April 26, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST

    warsinthesun, are these film projections or digital projections of the Blu-Ray


    Guess it's got to be digital like Devin said.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Wait, these are showing at 7:00 PM only? FUCK!!!

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    If there were afternoon matinees for these, I'd be all over these.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Ah fuck, I'm staying out of this talkback

    by D.Vader

    I expect lots and lots of rehashing of old arguments and nothing new added and no new conclusions.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST


    by BSB

  • I saw the FOTR: EE and TTT: EE in the theaters with a premiere of ROTK that night back in 03. Lord of the Rings day or something like that, it happened all over the country. I'd do that again with a ROTK: EE (which I've never fully seen anyway).

  • April 26, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST

    conclusion is this...people like to bitch, just to bitch

    by Nick

    To complain about "too many endings"... what the fuck did you think would happen? It's over 10 hours worth of film, you need to have closure for the main characters we spend hours with. If they didn't show you the Shire, people would bitch... if they didn't show what happened to Aragorn, people would bitch... but because they did show what happened, people bitched. The first editions were perfect for the theater, and the EE are perfect to have at home. Harry Potter should have took a cue from Jackson, and made REAL Extended Editions for the diehard fans.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:14 p.m. CST

    digital, not Blu-ray

    by honk_mahfah

    Choppah, my understanding is that the movies will show (in digitally-equipped theatres, at least) the same way any other movie shows. It won't be showing off of Blu-ray, or anything like that; it'll come on a hard drive which then gets ingested into the theatres' servers and shown the same way that, for example, "The Hangover Part II" will. A lot of these special events get shown off of satellite or DVR and look like garbage, but this seems like it'll be the same way "The Exorcist" was shown prior to its Blu-ray release last fall. And that fucker looked GREAT where I saw it. For that reason, I'm excited to see LotR, even thought I've seen all the EEs half a dozen times or so by now.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:15 p.m. CST




  • April 26, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    They are going to be shown in digital.

    by warsinthesun

  • April 26, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST


    by BSB

    With the kids running up and down the aisles, whoopin' and hollerin' and stompin' on trannies' heads, it'll feel like Pelennor Fields for realz!

  • April 26, 2011, 4:21 p.m. CST


    by D.Vader

    Is that a challenge?

  • April 26, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    D. vader

    by honk_mahfah

    They're only showing on Tuesdays (one show each for three consecutive weeks), so no Saturday viewing for you.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Only on tuesdays? What a waste!

    by D.Vader

    There goes Wing Night.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST

    DeletedScene does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    The EE added a lot of footage to the Trilogy but... there is still more. I'm always really curious about this stuff and below is the wiki list of confirmed footage that remains elusive: Additional footage from the Battle of the Last Alliance in The Fellowship of the Ring prologue. An obscure shot from the trailers of two Elven girls playing about in Rivendell. Scene mentioned in The Fellowship of the Ring commentary, about an animal disrupting Frodo and Sam while they sleep, after seeing the Wood Elves. Many animals were used, including rabbits and deer.[10] Dialogue from the Council of Elrond, such as Gandalf explaining how Sauron forged the One Ring.[10] An attack by Orcs from Moria on Lothlórien after the Fellowship leaves Moria. Jackson replaced this with a more suspenseful entrance for the Fellowship. Much of the lost footage can be seen as promotional material on The Fellowship of the Ring theatrical DVD and tie-in books, documentary footage on the Extended Editions, and Trading Cards. More Arwen footage, including a flashback scene of her first meeting with a beardless Aragorn (seen in The Two Towers teaser). Faramir having a vision of Frodo becoming like Gollum.[13] Footage of Arwen at Helm's Deep, cut by Jackson during a revision to the film's plot. Foreshadowing this sequence were scenes where Arwen and Elrond visit Galadriel at Lothlórien (seen in The Two Towers teaser trailer). The scene was edited down to a telepathic communication between Elrond and Galadriel.[13] Théoden speaking to the troops in the armoury, prior to the Battle of Helm's Deep. Éowyn defending the refugees in the Glittering Caves from Uruk-hai intruders.[27] An unknown scene displayed in The Two Towers preview of Éomer lowering a spear while riding his horse in a forest. Frodo and Sam fighting on the ground in Osgiliath (after Sam tackles Frodo away from the Ringwraith). The scene's fighting was deleted, but Frodo drawing Sting and pointing it at Sam after he is tackeled was left in.[28] A line of dialogue during the death of Saruman, in which he reveals that Wormtongue poisoned Théodred, giving further context as to why Wormtongue kills Saruman and Legolas in turn kills Wormtongue.[29] A conversation between Elrond and Arwen in a library in Rivendell, after Arwen decides to wait for Aragorn. Elrond leaves, saying, "You gave away your life's grace. I cannot protect you anymore."[30] Sam using the Light of Eärendil to pass the Watchers at Cirith Ungol. Aragorn having his armour fitted during the preparations for the Battle of the Black Gate. This was the final scene filmed during principal photography.[17] Sauron fighting Aragorn at the Black Gate. A computer-generated Troll was placed over Sauron due to Jackson feeling the scene was inappropriate. Sauron is also seen in a beautiful form as Annatar, Giver of Gifts.[17] Also at the Black Gate sequence, Pippin was seen in the trailer holding a wounded Merry, a scene which takes place after the Battle of the Pelennor Fields upon Pippin discovering Merry under the mûmak. Further epilogue footage, including that of Legolas and Gimli, as well as Éowyn and Faramir's wedding and Aragorn's death and funeral.[31]

  • April 26, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST

    I'm a freelancer, Brainy

    by D.Vader

    Weekends don't really have any meaning for me anymore.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST

    I love you guys

    by aicnmscott

    just sayin'

  • April 26, 2011, 4:49 p.m. CST

    There's a reason they don't show ROTK:EE in theatres

    by Sith Witch

    right after the EE versions of the other two: it actually hurts the film, whereas the EE version greatly helps the two former ones.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:50 p.m. CST

    I'm with Cobra-Kai

    by D.Vader

    WHERE ARE THE DELETED SCENES?? Why have a Blu-Ray if you're not going to include EVERYTHING.

  • April 26, 2011, 4:57 p.m. CST

    I agree........

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    LOTR = "Ya, it's a crash grab. But who cares? It's not hurting anybody. You don't have to see it!" Star Wars in 3D = "Stop milking the cow Luca$! You raped my childhood! Fuck off and die!" ^^ I agree...there seems to be a double-standard.

  • April 26, 2011, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Mouth of Sauron should have been included

    by skycrapper

    in the theatrical version. It irked me to no end watching how the final act unfolded in the theater.

  • April 26, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST

    I pre-ordered the blu

    by strykebr

    nice addition to my new blu collection

  • April 26, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Damn, between this and the EE Blu-rays

    by lv_426

    Lord of the Rings is gonna rape and pillage my wallet this summer.

  • April 26, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST


    by BSB

    Wif extra brain freeeeeeeeeze!

  • April 26, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    oh good, lets go spend another 9 hours watching characters walk

    by jules windex

    The most overrated films of the last 25 years. Parts 1 and 3 are solid enough films but people acted then and still act like these were the pinnacle of filmmaking.

  • April 26, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST


    by lv_426

    "Yes, the double standard on movie websites is apparent when Lucas wanted to release the SW movies in 3D, all you heard was whiny jackasses with their blogs, now that PJ wants to rerelease the LOTR movies no one seems to give a shit." Not exactly the same thing. First off, these re-releases of LOTR are a limited release. Not something that will be in the theaters for months trying to squeeze every dollar out of it. Also, Peter Jackson isn't tinkering around with these films and adding in all kinds of crappy effects and re-editing things like Lucas keeps doing with the original three SW films. I don't know about everyone else, but that is what I am most annoyed with Lucas about over the original SW trilogy. Back in 1997, Lucas has already done his big re-release of the first three SW films with the special edition versions. So this 3D stuff is yet another re-release of the original trilogy, and a re-release of the prequels. The fact that he is releasing the prequels first is also disappointing, as I am only interested in seeing episodes 4-6 on the big screen again. So I will have to wait a long time for those. It also feels like Lucas has been milking everything Star Wars for so long now, it is more of a knee-jerk reaction for us geeks when we hear of the films being re-released yet again. In the end though, I don't really mind all that much that Lucas is re-releasing his films. It is his right to do so. I am just not as excited about plunking down more money for Star Wars compared to how excited I am about The Hobbit and about seeing the LOTR trilogy on the big screen again.

  • I am pissed at him for fucking up the OT with the special editions and for the existence of the prequels. I will definitely go see the original trilogy in theaters if it is rereleased.

  • April 26, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    braindrain, not that I really care what you think..

    by Jaka

    ...since any time I've ever interacted with you all you've done is insult me, but here's the difference... <p> Jackson's EE were planned all along. There was always going to be a theatrical and EE of each movie. There was nothing done in a revisionist fashion. Nothing was added in twenty years later with CGI. They filmed for a year and a half and made two cuts of each film. Simple as that. <p> Also, and maybe more importantly, you have the choice to watch one or the other. Not once has Jackson or anyone else involved told (or forced) you which version you MUST watch by only releasing one of them. You have the complete freedom to only watch the original theatrical releases for the rest of your life if that's what makes you happy. <p> Lastly, he didn't "tinker" with anything. He added more of the story from the books to the EE. He didn't "change" characters story lines, he expanded and completed them.

  • April 26, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST


    by sweeneydave

    Those were scenes that he already filmed but had to cut due to length. It was the theatrical cuts that were altered. Sure there was CGI that was added after the theatricals and before the DVD releases, but he worked his butt off trying to get post production done. Can you blame him for holding off on finishing CGI for scenes that were cut until he new that New Line was going to allow them in again?

  • April 26, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Well color me freakin' excited!

    by Jaka

    I've never seen a single minute of the EE in theaters, so I'll be there for all three. Uhhhyep.

  • April 26, 2011, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Extended Editions are not definitive

    by lv_426

    We can choose to watch either the theatrical or extended editions. All depends on the viewer. And back when these were new, the extended editions were released a couple of months after the theatrical Rings films came out on DVD. Actually, they never sprang the extended ones on us. They were announced to be coming out about four months after the theatrical editions were released on DVD back then. That way, we as fans knew that if we wanted the versions with new scenes added in and all the extra behind the scenes material, we knew ahead of time to hold off and not buy the theatrical versions. Also, when you really think about it, the extended editions are not so different from a director's cut that is there as an alternate option for the viewer. So many films have been done up in a director's cut or extended version by that time and after that the LOTR trilogy was not that different of a beast. Look how long it took for the Aliens directors cut to finally be released on something besides laserdisc. The problem I have with what Lucas has done to the original Star Wars trilogy, is that he has made it so that, unless you want to watch a crappy VHS quality version of the unaltered original films, you are stuck with the special editions. I still don't let that ruin them for me. I can still enjoy the original trilogy in its special edition form. Does it annoy me that Han doesn't shoot first anymore? Yes. I will always cringe at the digital Jabba in A New Hope, and at that wacky lipstick wearing alien song and dance number in Return of the Jedi. And I am kinda pissed that they changed so much of the end of Jedi, but overall the films are pretty much there. Only Empire comes out of it all without anything annoyingly having been added or taken out by Lucas. So while you can say Jackson tinkered with LOTR with the extended editions, he did so in a much more transparent and fair way in regards to the fans.

  • April 26, 2011, 6:02 p.m. CST

    what lv-426 said

    by frank

  • April 26, 2011, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Maybe if we pray hard enough to Lucas

    by sweeneydave

    he will realize his mistake in allowing Han to shoot first in ESB at Vader in that Bespin dining hall. It wouldn't be hard. Just make Vader shoot some sort of laser from his eyes real quick and Han can dodge with his snappy neck move like he did with Greedo. I know he has snappy neck powers. He just doesn't use them very much which is really disappointing.

  • "Han can dodge with his snappy neck move like he did with Greedo. I know he has snappy neck powers. He just doesn't use them very much which is really disappointing." That would make an excellent action figure. "Snappy Head Han Solo" (with laser dodging snappy head action!)

  • April 26, 2011, 6:43 p.m. CST

    What a cash cow

    by Shaner Jedi

    nuff said.


  • April 26, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST

    brocknroll: Arnold for next Terminator

    by lv_426

    Interesting. Hopefully they can do something worthwhile with it, like having Arnold as an old military officer that survived Judgment Day and ends up as John Connor's mentor. Salvation was kinda disappointing in many ways, and just sort of left the overall terminator future war mythos hanging in the wind. At least there is still some potential to do something with the terminators and the future war storyline.

  • April 26, 2011, 8:33 p.m. CST

    good point, xiangyiff

    by frank

    But how do you think they will deal with Schwarzenegger’s age? CG?

  • That could have been an interesting epilogue, with Sam or Frodo narrating what happened to everyone else. It certainly would make things seem more... final. I'd love to see that ending edited together.

  • April 26, 2011, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Ain't AMC doing the same thing for Top Gun in a couple of months?

    by Terrence


  • Wait what are we talking about?

  • April 26, 2011, 10:03 p.m. CST


    by BSB

    PJ can tweak LOTR any which way he likes.

  • April 26, 2011, 10:23 p.m. CST

    " ass can take it..."

    by Kenny Adams

    That's what Nordling will be known for... That his ass can take it!

  • April 26, 2011, 11:33 p.m. CST

    I noticed TAXI DRIVER was playing at AMC a few weeks ago

    by MooseMalloy

    Once again a blu-ray promotion.

  • Cant wait to not sit through this again. Pity the poor ushers that have to deodorize the theater after all those hobbit fanboys leave.

  • April 26, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    LOTR = The books were so much better than the films..

    by MajorFrontbum a fucking mile. Don't see why people are so mental over these films, they're average. Then again, most people are as well.

  • April 27, 2011, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Don't matter if it's a "Cash Grab".

    by Jungle Fish

    Honestly, who cares what their motivations are? As long as it's a quality experience. I've never seen the Extended Cuts in-theater. I hope to catch these this time round. Over the last week I've been re-watching the long cuts during my alone time. Will be good fun to get the guys together and sit in a big room and do it right.

  • April 27, 2011, 1:09 a.m. CST

    No, the books fucking SUCKED

    by Mel

    Have you actually read them? JRR might have been smart and creative, but he couldn't write to save his life. He basically invented a language that was laughable. and I'm not talking about the elf language, I'm talking about just how all the characters speak in English. It's borderline Yoda with how backwards most of it is. My guess is that he wanted to do old English but didn't realize there's a fucking reason no one talks like that anymore. The fact is that we have evolved the language and it's a million times better now. The same can be said for Shakespeare's work. It's essentially ebonics nowadays, because of how much the language has evolved for the better. These are the facts, and they are undisputed (+5 to the one who can tell me who said that).

  • April 27, 2011, 1:33 a.m. CST

    The Extended versions are the only ones that should count!

    by Orionsangels

    The original poorly edited theatrical versions should be tossed in the garbage!

  • April 27, 2011, 1:35 a.m. CST

    Books are average and should be burned!!!

    by Orionsangels

    Imagination is so 19th century. Why imagine? When you can see it brought to life.

  • April 27, 2011, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Kevin Bacon

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach


  • April 27, 2011, 3:03 a.m. CST




  • If anything, the movies, evne in their extended version, are the cliff notes version of how the book ends. And really, what the fuck you incontinental sufferers wanted? It's a nearly 12 hours long movie, you wanted it all resolved in just five minutes? Wouldn't that be beyond stupid? Talk about precose ejeculators!

  • April 27, 2011, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Ludicrous speed!

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    I agree, more Spaceballs

  • All of the LOTR movies were improved a lot with their extended, or as i call them, the proper versions. However, even in the extended version, ROTK still suffers from some problems, which byzzarely were not solved. The most notorious is all that byzzare sequence after the battle of gondor where we see Aragorn curing Eowin, and the montage makes it look like it took him quite some time, probably days. Then we are witness to a scene where Pippin finally finds Merry all wounded lying next to a dead Oliphant. And as soon that scene playe, i fell to the ground laughing. It means Pippin had been like a wekk looking for Merry, and Merry had been in the same spot wounded and hurting for a whole week. That has to be the most byzzarely edited sequence int he whole of the LOTR movies. It's also unintentionally hysterical.

  • April 27, 2011, 3:51 a.m. CST

    I hope the AMC theaters closest to me are decent

    by FrodoFraggins

  • You say the damnest things, fool.

  • And if it works for SW...

  • April 27, 2011, 4:28 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Asi, the EE LOTR movies are amongst my all time faves but while we're nitpicking I would say that I didnt like the resolution of the Pelennor Fields battle with the Army Of The Dead swarming over the Orc army like a glowing tsunami and instantly killing them all. It suggests that the charge of the Rohirrim was all in vain - if only Theoden and the boys had stayed home for an extra half hour they'd all still be alive and the battle would still have been won! The book is much more elegant in the conclusion of the battle with the army of the dead fighting more like regular soldiers and just about 'tipping' the tide in favour of the defenders rather than doing all the work for them. But I guess some things on film have to be compressed and simplified for the sake of brevity!

  • April 27, 2011, 6:53 a.m. CST



    If memory serves, the so-called army of the dead (The Shadow Host or Oathbreakers in the book) didn't appear at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields and they don't actually ever physically fight or kill anyone at all. It's their mere presence that helps Aragorn sweep the Corsairs of Umbar from the Black Ships in sheer fright into Pelargir harbour, where they drown. Aragorn and the Rangers of the North (the remains of the Numenorians of Arnor) tip the balance at Pelennor only after the forces of Gondor, Rohan and (the most interesting character NOT in the movies) Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth are on the verge of defeat. Using the Oathbreakers at Minas Tirith does rather cancel out the need for the Ride of the Rohirrim, which was an odd choice given that in the previous film (TT) PJ put IN an extra charge of horsemen to relieve Helms Deep, when in the book, it's the Ents of Fangorm that sack Isengard and wipe out the forces of Saruman at Helms Deep.

  • April 27, 2011, 7:21 a.m. CST

    On the LOTR/SW double standard

    by BroVinny

    I think people trash Lucas because he keeps doing it again and again, each time presenting a substantially changed product from the original film well after the fact. The LOTR EEs were made with footage shot at the time the movies were actually filmed. It's no different than having the extended editions of The Abyss or Aliens play on the big screen (which I would love to see).

  • April 27, 2011, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Oh, and. . .

    by BroVinny


  • April 27, 2011, 7:30 a.m. CST

    cobra re: additional scenes

    by Mel Garga

    An epilogue would have been really appropriate. The appendices of the book that explain the various outcomes of the fellowships' lives is one of my favorite sections to re-read. The fact that ROTK ends without any follow-through, especially in regards to Gimli and Legolas's friendship, always stuck in my craw.

  • April 27, 2011, 7:33 a.m. CST



    "JRR... couldn't write to save his life." Are you simply trolling? Or are you really that stupid.

  • April 27, 2011, 7:53 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    jimbo, yes I think you're right about the book. Aragorn turns up at Pelennor Fields with a small but hardcore force of Numenorian rangers rather than the army of the dead. mel garga, I think the theatrical cut of ROTK probably sould have ended even sooner than how it did (too many endings seemed to be the common complaint from Joe Public).... however for the EE they defintitely should have gone to town and reinstated all the epilogue material they shot. It'll be frustrating if these deleted scenes aren't included on the forthcoming EE blu rays, and so far there's no word that they will be.

  • April 27, 2011, 8:38 a.m. CST


    by J.B.M.A.

    You are indeed correct about the Army of The Dead not appearing at The Pelennor in the book. They are one of the big mistakes in Jackson's film - unintentionally comical and ridiculous and counter productive to the story. The book does contain an arrival of horsemen at the conclusion of Helm's Deep however : Gandalf arrives back with the collected forces of Erkenbrand, lord of the Westfold, who's soldiers had been dispersed across the area in the previous days fighting. The Huorns (not the Ents) are of course waiting at the other end of the valley as well (a scene certainly in the extended edition of The Two Towers). As for you melgibsoncalledmethenword - every now and again some idiot crawls out of the woodwork to criticise Tolkien's writing. We listen, patiently, hoping for some new insight... But no. It's always whiny, idiotic bullshit; "...there's a fucking reason no one talks like that anymore..." - really? I would assume that this is the reason that nobody goes to watch Shakespeare or reads Patrick O'Brian novels anymore too. It's a shame that Tolkien's popularity has suffered due to the lack of modern day reading comprehension for Olde Worlde dialect. Oh, wait...

  • April 27, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Galadriel spanking scene finally included??

    by Behemoth

    The best part of the book to me is when Galadriel and Arwen give each other good, hard spankings. That section actually made me well up. I know it was filmed and it's been rumored to appear in these final FINAL cuts. Any news?

  • April 27, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    I completely agree with you. After having seen one of the greatest battle scenes ever put to film in the Ride of the Rohirrim, the "scrubbing bubbles" Army of the Dead seemed like such a cop-out. I can understand him needing to keep things moving as briskly as possible, but the events in the novel, as far as I can remember, should have been used. I don't have such a problem with the "multiple endings" of ROTK, just in all the goddamn slo-motion Jackson uses throughout the series, and towards the end. It's TOO MUCH, and for the most part, unneeded.

  • April 27, 2011, 9:20 a.m. CST

    LOTR Books were a bore

    by Nick

    Seriously, songs? Tom Bombawhaever is probably the worst character ever written in the history of books.

  • April 27, 2011, 9:30 a.m. CST


    by Yukon Cornelius

    Quote: He added MORE scenes to these movies and in some cases changed entire storylines of some characters in the Extended Editions. I don't know how you can say Jackson didn't tinker around the movies when HE DID. Yeah, but Braindrain here's the difference--Peter Jackson doesn't pretend the original theatrical versions of LOTR don't exist anymore, they weren't superceded by the EE. The original theatrical versions are on blu-ray right now...good luck finding high quality versions of the original, non-special edition theatrical versions of the SW trilogy on blu-ray or dvd. You won't because Lucas has revised history and insists they don't exist (in this dojo). And yes, I know he begrudingly added them as a bonus disc on dvd a couple years, ago, but that doesn't count since it's nothing but a direct port of a non-anamorphic laserdisc transfer done almost 20 years ago and thus a slap in the face to the OOT fans and the SPFX technicians, model makers, and editors that worked on them originally.

  • April 27, 2011, 11:38 a.m. CST

    You're mostly right Cobra-kai.

    by Wayne Tyree

    The whole purpose for Aragorn (book) taking the Path's of the Dead was to gather the scatterd Southern Gondor forces so they could relieve the seige. He didn't arrive with just him and the Rangers, they gathered up thousands of troops that had been fighting the Corsairs. After the Dead ran the evil-doers off the ships, Aragorn and crew not only loaded all the extra troops but also used the chained galley slaves (after freeing them) to help drive the ships up the Anduin. They arrived at precisely the best moment to help the beseiged forces and the Rohirrim defeat the Armies of the Witch-king at the Pellennor. I agree, the Dead Scrubbing Bubble Army was hokey and wrapped things up a bit too neatly. I just can't believe PJ and the writers mucked up what was a perfectly good battle scene as written by Tolkien. The movie BotPF was still amazing, nonetheless, and the charge of the Rohirrim still gets me excited every time I watch it. Another nit-pick of a wonderful movie and you will certainly see me at the AMC starting June 14!

  • April 27, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    SW was only re-released in theaters in 1997

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ...and those were the 1997 SE's. Anything other than that would have maybe been a smaller limited re-release in the 80's or something which I couldn't see anyone here logically pissing and moaning about. the 97 vhs tapes were copies of the 97 se from there the next release was the 2004 SE and that was only dvd....however those 2004 versions were cranked out a few more times on dvd and also packaged with the OT. I think LOTR is about equal with SW in terms of theatrical/dvd re-releases. In anycase I don't see the point complaining about either since no one holds a gun to you head and make you purchase a dvd, blu or a movie ticket.

  • April 27, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    I agree with you on the way the Battle Of Pelanor Fields is resolved as well. I guess it's the old Cavalry saves the day thing, when all hope seems lost to the heroes, there's this last minute change when the other group of heroes who were almost forgotten by then shows up with new friends to help the battle and win. I can live with that. But it certainly does diminish the efforts of the Rohirrim. Make no mistake, i like the 3 LOTR movies. There0's muich for me to love in each movie. for me, the most moving moments in the films were the Galdalf's "death" in FOTR and, again with Gandalf, when he tells Pippin what the white shores look like. McKellen's acting with the music in the background creates an amazing emotional scene which just brings a tear to my eye everytime i see it. But i have to be very honest with you, compadre: i find ROTK to be, by far, the most flawed of the 3 movies. Even in the EE version. Funny enough, but i think even in the Ee version the movie neds more scenes to help the narrative. but at the same time, ROTR is also the most self-indulgent of the 3 movies. Everything i disliked about Jackson's KING KONG i can trace back to ROTK and how Jackson became so complacent and self-indulgent, specially with useless over-extended SF scenes that don't serve that much of the plot as he thinks it does. And no, i don't think the ending of LOTR as seen in ROTK is over-long. It's the resolution of a 12 hours long movie, you can't wrap that up in just 5 minutes, that would be stupid. If anything, it's even shortchanged, we only see the real resolution of two characters, Frodo and Sam and nobody else.

  • April 27, 2011, 12:29 p.m. CST

    by AsimovLives

    Considering that fact he could speak fluently at least 5 different modern languages and 3 more ancient languages, taugh himself ancient finnish which is believed to be the most difficult of all ancient european language and was superbly fluent in it, and he then created 4 different languages on his own, i'd say any opinion that states that Tolkien had a lack of talent for writing can be seen as without merit whatsoever... to put it kindly.

  • April 27, 2011, 12:33 p.m. CST

    "JRR... couldn't write to save his life."

    by AsimovLives

    Considering that fact he could speak fluently at least 5 different modern languages and 3 more ancient languages, taugh himself ancient finnish which is believed to be the most difficult of all ancient european language and was superbly fluent in it, and he then created 4 different languages on his own, i'd say any opinion that states that Tolkien had a lack of talent for writing can be seen as without merit whatsoever... to put it kindly.

  • April 27, 2011, 1:23 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't be so generous as to 'put it kindly' asimov.

    by J.B.M.A.

    As far as I'm concerned melgibsoncalledmethenword, natalieportmansyummyafterbirth et al are child touching cock smokers. Or Michael Bay fans. It's pretty much the same thing.

  • April 27, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    No, ROTS has one deeply underwhelming one instead.

    by J.B.M.A.

  • April 27, 2011, 2:24 p.m. CST

    j.b.m.a. has a point, ROTJ barely has an ending at all.

    by AsimovLives

    3 movies, a giant empire made of countless planets and systems, with gigantic armadas made of giant ships all over it, and god only knows how many ground troops in each planet to control and enforce the emperor's will, and all it takes for the empire to fall is just the death of it's leader? Nobody at Corcurante would try to fill in the vaccum and gain the emperial seat for themselves? They would just automatically bow to the will of the Rebels? Everybody in the empire were just slaves and nobody had vested interests in the perpectuation of a system that served them well? MASSIVE COCK BULLSHIT! ROTJ doesn't have an ending at all! It just fucking stops! That's an example of how to end a 3 movie long franchise? Bullshit! ROTJ has any qualities to it, the ending is not one of them.

  • April 27, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "You're mostly right Cobra-kai." Thanks tinfangwarble. When I eventually get ban hammered I'd like 'he was mostly right' to be my epitaph!

  • Jesus Christ, are you fucking stupid! Really, man, stop it already, you are not made to think, you can't. Stop trying to be clever ideas, because clever will never be your thing. Just stick to dumb. By the way, the word decimate means "to kill 1/10th". It's latin, from the word ten in that language. THe constant misuse of the word will not make you right. You mean to say "Annihilated". The ending of ROTJ is dumb and is in fact no ending at all. For a 3 movie saga, it just stops dead. thjat's no ending, it's just they run out of story to tell, and it shows. Lame. In that regard, it's similiar to the first SW movie (the so-called A NEW HOPE), which also suffers the same, after all the shennigans, it just stops and people call it an ending out of charity. The only Star Wars movie thatis not a oprequel that actually bothers to have an ending, and it's an open ending to boot, is EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. SW, the saga made of movies that do not endings, they just stop. And i know Lucas can make endings, i saw THX-1138, AMERICAN GRAPHITTI and RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK.

  • April 27, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Being mostly rigth is more then most people can aspire. Look at Braindead, who is always wrong. See?

  • Logical or not, Jedi has a climactic ending. 'Sith on the other hand just fades out horribly after the buttock clenchingly awful Vader's Birth scene. And brain the Emperor actually says "...AN entire legion of my best troops..." so not even close to all of them. And as far as I know (and all evidence from the Star Wars universe suggests) that it wasn't the whole Imperial Fleet either.

  • April 27, 2011, 4:55 p.m. CST

    asi, you know of course that Lucas modeled SW after matinee serials


    just like Indiana Jones. And New Hope did have an ending with the destruction of the Deathstar and Vader's defeat and the awarding of medals and all. Pretty solid ending material imho.

  • April 27, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST


    by J.B.M.A.

    Despite the nice melancholy sunset on Tatooine, the pathos of the ending is totally ruined by the aforementioned and unintentionally hilarious 'Noooooooo...' sequence that shattered all our nerves mere minutes before. Everything after it means squat as a result. I'm a big SW fan, but really, the ROTK multi-endings absolutely shit on anything from Sith. I don't deny that Lucas is suggesting that the Empire is washed up after Jedi, though as asimov points out this is a bit illogical given how it's made clear throughout the films that the scope of the Empire is vast :we are expected to believe that everything crumbles the very second the figurehead of the organisation dies. But I can live with that. Anyway that isn't the point I was trying to make, which was simply that you were misquoting stuff from Jedi to suit your argument and being a cocky bastard about it while you did it.

  • April 27, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST



    the cheeseball NOOOOO scene does not ruin the end of the film. What the fuck did you expect? Of course there was going to be at least a few cringe-inducing moments. But I give Lucas a pass for not totally botching the film and delivering a pretty solid Star Wars movie. OMG the Return of the Kings multi-ending wankery is easily the single worst thing you could point to in the entire series. Is it over yet? Is it over now? IS IT FUCKING OVER??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • April 27, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST

    I just learned that Assimov likes Terminator 3



  • April 28, 2011, 8:13 a.m. CST

    There is no double standard...

    by kells

    ...if you just hate Lucas personally. What a fucking jackass.

  • April 28, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST


    by J.B.M.A.

    I'm not 'complaining' about the ending to ROTS. You brought it up as some kind of pitiful response to the moaning about ROTK's multiple endings (along with your usual trolling fuckery).

  • April 28, 2011, 9:10 a.m. CST


    by J.B.M.A.

    ..."the cheeseball NOOOOO scene does not ruin the end of the film...." Yes it did. It fucking dropped a large turd in the mouths of the unfortunate audience. "...What the fuck did you expect?" Not to see Darth Vader howl like a mentally deficient baby whilst staggering around on lift shoes for a start. Or is that somehow 'standard' for Star Wars prequels? "...Of course there was going to be at least a few cringe-inducing moments..." Why? What a ridiculous statement. Or is this just acceptance that Lucas is now fully unable to create anything even semi-competent without punctuating it with moments of truly horrible awfulness? "...But I give Lucas a pass for not totally botching the film and delivering a pretty solid Star Wars movie...." We're going waaaaay off the point here. But in my opinion - and despite enjoying Star Wars in general - I don't think there's much 'solid' about ROTS at all, bar some very entertaining lightsabre action and the opening space battle. None of which has anything to do with LOTR multiple endings which might cause grumbles amongst those with numb bottoms and/or the educationally limited but which pwn Lucas in terms of rewarding the emotional investment of the audience.

  • April 28, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST

    braindrain, don't presume that everybody has your age, idiot.

    by AsimovLives

  • April 28, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Bit at least ROTS ends in where it should, with the delivery of Luke to his uncles. That is a very acceptable ending, specially considering if you know what will happen next in the saga. In ROTJ, the movie just fucking stops. It just fucking stops. How cna people defend that and strill have to balls to go on making dumb ass complains about how the LOTR movies ended? It's just stupid!

  • April 28, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    The ending of A NEW HOPE only works if you already know what will happen nex,t with the knowledge thwat there's more movies to go afterwards. and evne that is debatable. No, man, the ending of A NEW HOPE is pretty poor. It's just the movie stopping right there. To call it an ending is charitous, to say the least. Thank goodness for that movie more were made afterwards. And A NEW HOPE ends like that because, literally, Lucas run out of money. The original ending was to be more evolved and developed. In fact, part of the original ending for A NEW HOPE is what made the 3rd part of THE RETURN OF THE JEDI. And evne then, the ending of ROTJ is rushed. Rushed compared to the inicial intentions and ideas found in the final scripts. THe SW movies might have many qualities, but the endings that A NEW HOPE and RETURN OF THE JEDI have are not one of them. And to tell you the truth, the more iknow about SF and about movies, and the older i get, the less enthusiastic and impressed i get with SW. In some ways, SW, for all the populist impulse that gave the SF genre, it might in the long run be one of the worst things that happened to the SF genre in film. But i'm not blaming Lucas for that. The studio executives and the fanboys are far more to be blamed for that.

  • April 29, 2011, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Peter Jackson has raped my wallet for 10 years

    by Seven Sisters

    enough is enough.

  • April 29, 2011, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Spoiler Alert

    by Seven Sisters

    Frodo and Sam are gay, Tolkien was a racist, Merry and Pippin smoke weed and the Balrog HAS wings! <p> In case you missed the big deal today, there's a royal wedding stuck in there someplace.