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Quint joins Jodie Foster and Mel Gibson on the set of The Beaver!

Published at: April 18, 2011, 7:52 p.m. CST

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. This particular visit, an exclusive day on a movie which didn’t have any other domestic press allowed onset, was very exciting for me.

For starters, I had read the fantastic script by Kyle Killen after it hit the famous Black List and loved it. It’s a dark, dark comedy with a premise so crazy it had to work. A middle-aged man is losing his family as he sinks into a deep pit of depression. Pills, psychiatrists, self-help books, therapy… nothing works. His wife is fed up, his teenage son punishes himself every time he sees any semblance of his father in his own mannerisms and his youngest son is introverted to a such a degree that he’s almost autistic.

Just as this man, Walter Black, is at his lowest, inches away from a lonely suicide, he finds salvation in the form of a beaver puppet. By talking through this hand puppet Walter is able to say everything he couldn’t before. His lips move, his voice providing the words, but it’s really the Beaver speaking.

That’s quirky enough, but as the story continues you begin to have serious reservations about this pairing. What’s funny at first soon becomes a sign of severe mental illness… or something even crazier.

So, I was already excited that this movie was going forward, but my excitement quadrupled when Jodie Foster signed on to direct and co-star with one Mel Gibson in the lead, their first pairing since MAVERICK.

 

 

I traveled to New York City to see Jodie Foster direct Mel Gibson talking through a beaver hand puppet. I must have rescued orphans from a burning building or took a bullet for a holy man or something in a previous life because that’s so crazy awesome I could hardly contain myself.

Especially when you factor in that I had a massive crush on Foster as a child. I know I seem to have a crush on everybody, but it was a real deal thing as a kid. FREAKY FRIDAY and CANDLESHOE did it, I think. Of course I couldn’t admit that to Ms. Foster. It’d be creepy even before you factor in the whole “I had a crush on you in those movies, but it’s because I was a kid when I saw them, so it’s okay… I don’t have a crush on you in those movies now, that’d be creepy, right? Don’t call the cops on me!” thing.

The film was shooting in a little warehouse in Brooklyn called Cinema World. This place was cheeseball central. The studio space was just like most studio space, but walking in the publicist, Larry (who started his career with THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR, which itself is pretty awesome… he didn’t care too much for Robert Redford, but that’s another story) and I had to pass through a fake library and a creepy-ass mannequin in a ticket taker booth. I later found out the upstairs was even scarier, with a tacky Pharaoh painted on the wall at the top of stairs built in a circular tunnel of neon light that pointed the way to a cave room that looked like an evil doctor’s lair from a bad late ‘60s Bond rip-off movie.

Oh, I should mention that the famous Radio Man was stationed outside the doors to the studio, the radio around his neck covered in a plastic bag to protect it from the chilly rain.

The set built in the sound stage was the top floor of the Black house. Everything that happened on the ground floor was shot on location.

Gibson was days away from wrapping out, so this particular shooting day was picking up various pieces from all over the movie. When I walked up to the monitors I could see a close-up on an obviously beat up Mel Gibson. He was looking at the beaver, but I could only see the back of its furry brown head.

This scene is the culmination of a drop-down, drag-out physical fight between Gibson and the Beaver. I was able to see some of the takes from this fight, shot the previous day, and Gibson would do Bruce Campbell proud with the lumps he was giving to himself.

But more on that in a minute.

They had just checked the gate on this shot and the crew was spilling out of the house. Larry grabbed Gibson as he came down the wooden ramp and asked if he could introduce me. Gibson agreed and came over to shake my hand. Up close his make-up looked even more impressive. His left eye was swelled shut, his lip was split and he had a bloody bruise on his forehead.

I greeted him and tried to make a lame joke about how he was a little beat up. I know it was lame because his only response was to say “It’s make-up.” After that awkward introduction he asked where I came from and I told him Austin. His face changed here, remembering, I think, that this pesky intruder was from Ain’t It Cool News. He might not have had any idea who I was, but he knows Harry and the site from his screenings of The Passion of the Christ at BNAT 2003 and Apocalypto at Fantastic Fest.

“Ah, Harry Knowles territory!” was his response, actually. He then proceeded to tell the crew around me exactly what Butt-Numb-A-Thon is and how crazy we all must be for sitting in one theater for 24 hours worth of movies. I pointed out that The Passion played very well even though it was the last movie of the night and he said that it did, but that’s because we were already raw and softened up by the time he got there.

There was some down time as they changed direction, so Gibson left to grab a rest and I was taken up to meet Jodie Foster before getting a tour of the set.

I gotta say, and I might be biased because of my aforementioned childhood crush, but I found Foster to be adorable. She’s tiny and came across as a genuinely kind soul. You know how you can sometimes tell right away when someone’s a kind person and not just acting nice? That’s the feeling I got from Foster.

There was no awkwardness at all and we fell into a nice conversation about the project and about a character I wouldn’t have a chance to see on my visit, that of Porter, Walter’s estranged teenage son played by Anton Yelchin.

I hadn’t realized Yelchin was cast before the opportunity to visit the set came up and I thought it was perfect casting. It’s the kind of role that I was sure must have been tailor-made for Yelchin, almost written for him. Foster agreed and said that even though she saw a few people for the part she never wanted anybody else.

 

 

Seizing an opportunity, I had to make mention of Edgar Wright’s obsession with Bugsy Malone. Foster didn’t know Edgar by name, but knew of Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz. I told her that Wright not only loves the movie, but has publicly admitted to singing My Name Is Tallulah in the shower (thanks Twitter). She laughed at that and began to talk about the movie saying that she recently showed it to her kids. That film and Nim’s Island are the only two films of hers she has let her kids see.

Larry asked what it was, not having seen it, so Foster explained the premise and talked about how great the soundtrack by Paul Williams was, but how strange it comes across in the movie since it’s cast completely with kids yet every song is sung by either Williams himself or one of his adult friends. If you’ve seen the movie you can tell instantly that Foster’s own voice wasn’t used in her song.

We shortly left to go explore the set while there was some quiet time. There’s not much to say about these sets other than how amazed I always am when I see movie magic at work. It’s not a flashy set, but it feels like a real house… an upper-middle class bedroom, very clean, but with arty clutter like books, photos, etc… The way they lit the windows and had shrubbery outside totally gave the illusion of a bright daytime view, not a gloomy black-walled studio which was the reality.

After touring the sets we made our way back down the monitors, but I saw the title character sitting on a cart. I asked if I could take a close-up look at the beaver (yuk-yuk-yuk) and was allowed to get up close and personal.

There were two puppets, a pre-fight and post-fight puppet. The pre-fight puppet is that ugly deep brown that reminds me of the 1980s, with a tan belly, leather nose and eerily realistic brown eyes. The post-fight puppet is messed up and I noticed that the damage on the puppet mirrored the damage on Mel. The puppet had a blood stain on the same spot on its forehead, its left eye had gone askew and its teeth were crooked. I’m sure the matching damage was intentional.

During the lull between shots I was introduced to a producer who had them run some of the Gibson fight with the beaver puppet on the playback monitors. There was everything from Mel punching himself in the face with the beaver puppet to him violently punching through a wall, pink insulation flying, to one of the creepiest things in the fight.

What’s great about this particular shot is that it’s both deranged and funny, which is kind of the tone of the whole story. Gibson is pinning his left hand, the beaver hand, with the neck of a guitar. His character is triumphant, but the beaver strains against the neck of the guitar and the way the shot is angled it looks like the straining beaver is staring daggers into Gibson.

I was later told that they didn’t do a wide array of looks. There’s no “mad beaver” “happy beaver” or anything like that. It only ever looks like the original puppet, but in this shot it just looks pissed off.

In a gravely voice the beaver says “You’re not going to win,” as it bites the neck of the guitar (which means Gibson’s character’s left hand is now holding the neck of the guitar) and swings it up, splintering it over Gibson’s face.

This is a good spot to talk about the voice of the beaver. In the script Killen just describes the beaver as having a British accent, so when I read it I pictured something more comical, a stuck up prim and proper accent. Gibson went the opposite way, giving the beaver a gravely gangster flick British accent. Like you could confuse Gibson’s voice with Ray Winstone’s.

From the way Gibson was hacking and coughing after most takes where the beaver had a lot of dialogue I’d wager this voice was playing hell with his vocal chords.

The next shot had the most beaver dialogue. It is wide profile shot that pushes into a close two shot of Mel and the beaver. Gibson starts the scene slumping down next to a bed, gasping for breath. He speaks and the beaver’s mouth moves.

“Ain’t I given you exactly what you wanted? You don’t need ‘em, Walter. I love you. I’m the only one what really, really loves you. That’s why I won’t let you go back.”

Walter is defeated here, exhaustion showing on his face. His own voice is meek as he says, “I don’t want to sleep anymore. Maybe we can work on something.”

The beaver responds, “Sure, mate, sure,” and leads Gibson up off the ground… of course meaning Gibson turns the puppet’s eyes away and holds his hand up in front of him as he gets up from the sitting position.

There were many takes of this, timing the push in just right and getting the positioning of the beaver where it needed to be to be in exact profile just like Mel is. About halfway through the takes Gibson throws in a moment where his character gingerly examines the fluff from a tear in the beaver’s hide, damage from the fight, as the beaver talks, regret on his face.

As I mentioned before, this was the only full-on sequence I saw film. The rest were inserts, scattered moments from throughout the film. Simple things like Gibson opening a closet and grabbing a jacket or washing up at the bathroom sink.

Some of these were interesting because Foster was shooting them to fit into a montage of sorts, highlighting the similarities between father and son. Mirroring previously shot footage of Anton Yelchin doing similar actions these shots would end up underlining how much of Gibson’s character was in Yelchin’s, one of the biggest burdens for that character.

I saw some of the Yelchin shots on playback as they set up the Gibson ones. Each shot sees the camera moving from left to right, hitting blackness and then moving into the next shot. So, the camera would move across Yelchin, in profile, at a mirror fussing with his hair, move past him into darkness, then move into a shot of Gibson at a mirror fussing with hair, move past him into darkness, then into a shot of Yelchin grabbing clothes from his dresser to Gibson doing the same thing, etc.

You get the point.

It was during one of these small moments that I was really taken aback by Gibson’s performance. Listen, I’m from the Road Warrior/Lethal Weapon generation. Gibson was always the confident badass, capable of being crazy, sympathetic and tough at the same time. I figured that would be how he approached his work, but the man I saw in front of the cameras was shockingly vulnerable.

After every take he’d look to Foster almost like a child would look to his mother for approval, a mixture of hope and nerves on his face. I wouldn’t call it full-on insecurity, but it was shocking to me as a person who had one image of the man from his work meet the image of the man as he’s working. He wasn’t Martin Riggs or William Wallace running at each take like a ball of crazy energy, but a very vulnerable human being. There was nothing but confidence as the cameras rolled, but he leaned very heavily on his director before and after.

I suppose to a great extent most actors do that, but most actors aren’t Mad Max.

 

 

When the crew broke for lunch I went along and was surprised to see Foster eating with the crew. I’ve been on close to 50 sets by now, I’m sure, and I’ve maybe only seen that once or twice before. It’s not that most directors hate their crew or don’t want to mingle with the commoners or anything, but they usually spend their lunches working in their office/trailer… planning shots or cutting footage together or catching up on emails and phone calls, etc.

Publicist Larry and I were sitting at a round lunch table by ourselves and I was grilling him on his previous jobs (especially his ‘70s work) when a plate heavy with meat and potatoes thudded down on the table next to me.

Gibson sat down, his crew and screenwriter Kyle Killen taking the remaining seats at the table. Saying I was surprised would have been an understatement. As rare as it is to see a director eating with the crew seeing an A-list actor eating with them is like seeing a Dodo in your birdbath. And if you do see one you’re damn well not gonna see them sitting with a geek like me.

Most of the conversation wasn’t about Gibson himself, but I did ask about his thoughts on George Miller doing a new Mad Max movie and he seemed to be happy that Miller was going forward with it, but not too broken up that he wasn’t Max again.

Other than that, we talked a lot about Old Hollywood. Once again, Gibson surprised me with a depth of knowledge about vintage films. From Bob Hope On The Road movies to vintage crime stories Gibson showed great enthusiasm for the films of yesteryear. He discussed producer Alan Ladd Jr (the exec that greenlit Star Wars and later produced Gibson’s Braveheart) with great affection (calling him “Laddy”) and went on to discuss Ladd’s ‘70s work and the work of his father, a famous star from the ‘40s and ‘50s.

There’s a level of surrealism that I encounter quite a bit in this job, but there’s nothing like trying to have a conversation with childhood idols. I encountered that when I met Steven Spielberg on the War of the Worlds set and Harrison Ford on the Cowboys and Aliens set and there was a little bit of that here as well.

Gibson was very low key, down for having a movie geek chat as he absently flicked his lighter or grabbed heaping forkfuls of mashed together potatoes and steak.

It was an odd, but incredibly cool and surprisingly warm and open visit. I hope all that came through in the above report.

Thanks to Summit for okaying the visit and for Foster and her crew for putting up with me geeking up their set for a while.

-Quint
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  • April 18, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Hey!!!

    by Mr Soze

    I wonder what Jodie's Beaver looks like???....Chewed Bubble Gum???

  • April 18, 2011, 7:54 p.m. CST

    I'd say Mel Gibson could direct The Wolverine

    by aphextwin

    Guy knows how to handle action scenes while maintaining a sense of depth and emotion

  • April 18, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    critics say "beaver is good!"

    by Anakin_Piecocker

  • April 18, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Dude could have BEEN Wolverine in his younger years.

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    Not very tall, a little on the hairy side, and an intensity like very few others. Only other dream actor would be a young Nicholson. Both would have had to beef up but they would have put Jackman to shame.

  • April 18, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Fucking A Gibson would make a hell of a good Wolverine picture.

    by tamethecunt

    It will never happen but if somebody with real balls pulled the trigger on that would be an all time badass film.

  • April 18, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST

    I wish Jodie and Mel Were My Friends

    by Flummage

    We'd hang out and be all, like, charismatic, and talented but flawed, and stuff. And when Mel would get all racist and white-eyed with uncontrollable we'd be all "Oh, that's SO Mel!". And then hug.

  • April 18, 2011, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Did you ask him why he hates Jews so much..?

    by D o o d

    I mean seriously..?

  • April 18, 2011, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Ha Ha, Take that haters!

    by ganymede3010

    I know anything positive is like kryptonite to your perpetual stream of negativity. I'll be there opening night.

  • April 18, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    What about Jennifer Lawrence?

    by Andy Pandy

  • April 18, 2011, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Everytime I see the preview for this...

    by Rhuragh

    ...movie, I want to heckle the trailer and add in some dialogue for the beaver puppet. "The jews are responsible for all the wars in the world!" "You look like a fucking bitch in heat!" And my personal favorite, "Sugartits!"

  • April 18, 2011, 10:59 p.m. CST

    I love these set reports

    by SK229

    You always manage to sincerely convey your exact feelings moment-to-moment and it's cliched, but it puts me right in there. I only wish there were more of these and that they were longer. Never read the War of the Worlds one (Cowboys and Aliens set visit was the shit), gonna try to dig it up right now. Seriously, kudos on some great writing.

  • April 18, 2011, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Just how intense was this crush on Jodie Foster?

    by Ronald Raygun

    Quint, No!! Killing the President won't make her love you!!

  • April 18, 2011, 11:39 p.m. CST

    QUINT GOT AN INSIDE LOOK AT JODIE FOSTER'S BEAVER

    by BringingSexyBack

    You lucky dog!

  • April 18, 2011, 11:42 p.m. CST

    THAT SHOT OF JENNIFER LAWRENCE IN PIGTAILS AND LOOKING UP ...

    by BringingSexyBack

    Thank you.

  • April 18, 2011, 11:45 p.m. CST

    YOU F***ING OFFEND ME

    by goatherdingclownhunter

    AND YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT YOURSELF AND YOUR STUPID F***ING FAILED CAREER................

  • April 18, 2011, 11:47 p.m. CST

    He is crazy, but he is talented

    by goatherdingclownhunter

    Yes, he has done shitty things in his personal life. All celebrities do, though. His craziness has not impacted my love of Braveheart, The Passion of The Christ, and some of his other films. He is immensely talented. Roman Polanski abused a child but nobody seems to mind that. In America, racist comments are the greatest of all evils, I guess.

  • Acting-wise, this sounds like Mel back in Braveheart form.

  • April 19, 2011, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Aaah, if only Hitler was a talented actor too

    by D o o d

    we could then, at least, forgive him for his sins!

  • April 19, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST

    dood, Raygun, Theen, sk229

    by Quint

    d o o d - If Mel Gibson is like Hitler, so is my grandmother. Super sweet lady, very devout Christian... not a fan of the Asians for some reason and like many of her generation doesn't quite realize it's not cool to voice those opinions publicly. Raygun, I know you're probably a little nervous with your handle being what it is, but don't worry. Not that intense. Puppy dog, not assassination crush. Theendispie - She wasn't on set when I was there and I didn't see any footage of her, so it didn't make it into the article. But having seen the film now I can say she's great in it, too. Don't quote me on this, but I'm going to take the controversial stance and say she might have a career. sk229 - Thanks, man. Really appreciate it. That's exactly what I hope for. Look up my War of the Worlds report (2), King Kong (3), Brothers Bloom (3) and The Mist (7) reports if you like the indepth stuff... and stay tuned for a good one on Captain America.

  • April 19, 2011, 2:05 a.m. CST

    quint

    by D o o d

    My example was a little over the top and I in no way believe that Gibson is anything like hitler. However, I do take point with people who like "goatherdingclownhunter" think that just because he's a good actor, it kind of excuses him of any wrong doing. I think everyone has the responsibility of their actions. Regardless of whether you're famous or not. I used to like Mel and he won a lot of points for being Mad Max alone. However, I have come to really despise him!

  • April 19, 2011, 2:53 a.m. CST

    If Gibson said Whites Christians were responsible for all the wars...

    by Angry Mike

    Hollywood would be singing his praises.

  • April 19, 2011, 5:04 a.m. CST

    NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT

    by scotsman75

    YET AGAIN ANOTHER TYPICAL IGNORANT YANK GETS IT WRONG,THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT,BRITAIN IS A UNION OF 3 COUNTRIES,SCOTLAND WALES AND ENGLAND. THE ACCENT USED IN THE MOVIE IS ENGLISH. THEREFORE HE HAS AN ENGLISH ACCENT.

  • April 19, 2011, 5:24 a.m. CST

    Hey Quint,

    by nobodylistenstodestro

    First, I want to ask if youve heard anything new about the maverick sequel? And second, I want to ask if your Jodie Foster crush and Beaver set visit will disqualify my Super comic from the contest? You do remember that contest, right?

  • April 19, 2011, 6:06 a.m. CST

    For someone who's so concerned about his accent...

    by Arch Stanton

    you sure do dismiss the English ones pretty quick. Or didn't you know that the English have several accents too?

  • April 19, 2011, 6:42 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Madmacks

    Im English or British or whatever you like to tag us and I live in the US.........at least most Yanks (as you call them) can spell British.......ignorant Scots twat!

  • April 19, 2011, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Mel gibson and Anton yelchin. Good choice

    by naian

    I like both, they are very talented actors. i hope the movie be a good movie.

  • April 19, 2011, 8:31 a.m. CST

    MISSED THE POINT

    by scotsman75

    OF COURSE I KNOW THERES DIFFERENT ENGLISH ACCENTS A STHERE IS DIFFERENT ACCENTS IN EVERY COUNTRY ,SAME IN SCOTLAND AND WALES,BUT U MISSED THE POINT,THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT,HIS ACCENT IS ENGLISH.IF HE HAD A WELSH ACCENT NO ONE WOULD SAY HIS ACCENT WAS BRITTISH THEN WOULD THEY?........ARE U CATCHING ON YET?

  • April 19, 2011, 8:33 a.m. CST

    TYPICAL ENGLISH INSULTS THE SCOTS

    by scotsman75

    SHOWING YOUR TRUE COLORS EH MATE? THAT S A SHAME U DONT LIKE THE SCOTS,IVE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE THE BEST AT SPELLLING AS IM NOT INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ENGLISH ,I SPEAK MY NATIVE TOUNGE WICH IS SCOTTISH GALIC.

  • April 19, 2011, 8:35 a.m. CST

    A WEE TIP FOR THE YANKS

    by scotsman75

    BRITISH DOESNT MEAN ENGLISH

  • April 19, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST

    BRITISH CAN BE SCOTS WELSH OR ENGLISH

    by scotsman75

    U WOULDNT SAY FOR EXAMPLE HE HAD A EUROPEAN ACCENT,AS EUROPE HAS AROUND 40 COUNTRIES. SO WHY SAY A BRITTISH ACCENT,THAT COULD BE ONE OF 3 COUNTRIES.HIS ACCENT IS ENGLISH PURE AND SIMPLE.

  • April 19, 2011, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Holy Crap James Garner is 83!

    by MoffatBabies

    And looking like it. I wouldn't rule out another Maverick , but I'd get on it fast if you're going to do one. I'd be first in line to see it on Garner's ability alone. And nice report! I genuinely do have a hard time reconciling the man and his work now, but don't think anyone is beyond redemption. We assume we know that he surely has not redeemed himself, but the fact remains.. we just don't know. And the only apology owed to us is if we're Jews. And I'm not. I have also said some things in my distant past that I feel very lucky were not recorded for posterity. My father was also deeply racist when I was a kid and completely turned around in his old age, so people can change. Whether or not he deserved any forgiveness for the things he said when he was younger, or how his attitudes effected those around him, is not up to me. I know I put it in the past personally. I'm not saying we should let stars off the hook just because of their fame, but I am saying we should do our best in life to give people a chance, no matter their fame or fortune. I'll just leave it at that.

  • April 19, 2011, 9:41 a.m. CST

    After Gibson's character resolves his fight with the beaver....

    by Bobo_Vision

    ....happy music plays, he embraces his family and all seems well....until he's alone in his bedroom....he looks into his underwear and says "It's alright?" to which a deep voice responds "It's alright" followed by the sound "Dun Dun DUNNNNNNNN". <p> Cut to black. Directed by Jodie Foster. Roll credits.

  • April 19, 2011, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Awesome report! I hope this film does well.

    by ltgalloway

    I never knew about the Alan Ladd Jr. connection. Thanks! Can't wait to see this one.

  • April 19, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Hey guys.

    by Marat

    I love Mel, Scots, English, and even Welsh and Paddies. Quit fighting, lads. Though random question: who hates Geordies less, Londoners or Scots?

  • April 19, 2011, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Wee Tip For Scottish Assholes

    by Rebeck2

    Turn off your CAP LOCK key. Talk about living a stereotype of the yelling Scotsman. No offense to the rest of you, I find a Scottish accent on a wee pretty girl a 'ting a beauty.

  • April 19, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST

    'Ignorant yank'...?

    by Lone Fox

    Not quite as ignorant as the Scot that appears unaware that Britain (with one 'T') is made of FOUR countries. Heard of Northern Ireland?

  • April 19, 2011, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Love Mel's work generally but damn, that dude is a raging ball of hate

    by DoctorWho?

    His old man really did a number on him.

  • April 19, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST

    I want Mel's Vikings flick

    by kwisatzhaderach

    NOW!

  • April 19, 2011, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Bubbles & Conky: The Movie

    by CANT_WAIT_TO_HATE

    ......I love Mel, pity about um.....all that business. He makes a good film though, look forward to this.

  • April 19, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST

    LONE FOX

    by scotsman75

    GLAD U SAID THAT,BRITAIN IS 3 COUNTRIES SCOTLAND WALES AND ENGLAND.EVER HEARD OF THE UK? UNITED KINGDOM IS BRITAIN PLUS NORTHERN IRELAND.MAYBE U SHOULD HAVE GOOGLED THAT.NORTHERN IRELAND IS THE UK NOT BRITAIN,SO I THINK U WILL FIND I WAS CORRECT IN CALLING U AN IGNORANT YANK,CAUSE THATS WHAT U ARE.

  • April 19, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I want to be in Jodie's Beaver.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • April 19, 2011, 11:14 a.m. CST

    THE_CHOPPAH

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    Haven't you been banned?

  • April 19, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST

    "GOP insiders embrace Trump's presidential bid"

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    Bring. It. On.

  • April 19, 2011, 11:23 a.m. CST

    But how can I be banned? I am THE_CHOPPAH!!!

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

  • April 19, 2011, 11:24 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach: After VALHALLA RISING, no one else should attempt a Viking flick.

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    It's an impossible standard to live up to.

  • April 19, 2011, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Scotsman75

    by Lone Fox

    Actually, as the original term you objected to was 'British accent', as a part of the British Isles, Northern Ireland still counts. But I'll concede, if you want to be pedantic 'Britain' is technically the name of the island. UK is Britain plus N. Ireland. Then again, the United Kingdom of Great Britain also includes Northern Ireland. And there's no such thing as a typical English accent either. Y'know. If you want to be pedantic. ... Yank. That's funny.

  • yep

  • April 19, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Klaus Kinsky was may more nuts..no one cared then

    by FleshMachine

    why should we care about mels nutsness?

  • Yes, Mel is an asshole. Yes, he is trying to patch things up with his wife and family, much less his career. But did he run over somebody like Haley Berry and Matthew Broderick did (the later killed 2 people in Ireland in 1985 I believe)? Did he get Vic Morrow and 2 kids killed and give some smug smirk as he got off because he KNEW he would? Does he associate with dictators because they can get him underage poon (like Oliver Stone and Sean Penn)? <p> If you want to hate on the guy, okay. But all things in context, calling a female cop sugertits or saying the Jews are responsible for all the evil in the world (which I thought liberals who support Palestine pretty much say as well) seems to be far less of a crime than getting people killed or advertising for murderous dictators. Let's keep it all in perspective, eh?

  • April 19, 2011, 1:41 p.m. CST

    monroville

    by D o o d

    you're correct but only to a point. Everything you have said is spot on. they're all pretty much horrible people for what they've done, however, this in no way lessens how horrible gibson is for his disgusting views! Why bring the whole palestinian thing into it. Yes they have a right to feel like that and they have a legitimate reason for their hate. We're speaking of our views and I think Mel is scum!

  • Just googled it. He was in the car with his then girlfriend, Jennifer Grey, who was also his sister in Ferris Bueller. She was so traumatized at the death of the mother and daughter they killed that she couldn't continue making movies, she says. <p> She must really go after male actors on the set because she's dated so many of them, including Johnny Depp...and that was pre-nose job.

  • April 19, 2011, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Great report

    by BradZuhl

    Can't wait for this one. I hope it's the first step in Gibson's public comeback.

  • April 19, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    LONE FOX,WRONG AGAIN

    by scotsman75

    THE UNITED KINGDOW OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND IS THE FULL TITLE,SO YOUR WRONG AGAIN AS NORTHERN IRELAND ISNT PART OF BRITAIN AS I ALREADY STATED.AND ITS NOT PEDANTIC ITS JUST THE FACTS,AS MOST OF U IGNORANT YANKS THINK BRITAIN MEANS ENGLAND,WICH IT DOESNT.AND I NEVER SAID IT WAS A TYPICAL ENGLISH ACCENT,I SAID THERES NO SUCH THING AS A BRITISH ACCENT,AS THE CHARACTERS ACCENT IS ENGLISH.HENCE ENGLAND SCOTLAND AND WALES ARE 3 COUNTRIES THAT HAVE EXISTED LONG BEFORE BRITAIN WAS EVER FORMED.SO YOUR WRONG ON ALL ACCOUNTS YET AGAIN.

  • April 19, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Mel Gibson is my hero

    by Mel

    fact.

  • April 19, 2011, 4:42 p.m. CST

    You want some perspective?

    by DoctorWho?

    Substitute black people for Jews in all of Mel's rants and he would never see the light of day again. Somehow, anti-semitism is just kind of accepted and excused the way other bigotry is not. This is a sad and disgusting fact.

  • April 19, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST

    And for the record, flummage wins best post of this thread.

    by DoctorWho?

  • April 19, 2011, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Aw really? Sarah Jane has passed away?

    by DoctorWho?

    We love you Elisabeth.

  • April 19, 2011, 5:46 p.m. CST

    DOCWHO

    by BringingSexyBack

    Erm ... Mel said "get raped by a pack of ni**ers". That's far worse than what he said about Jews, which amounted to nothing more than an observation about global geopolitics. The only difference is that, apparently, black people have thicker skin and understand Mel's human foibles better than, well, other people.

  • April 19, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Once again Quint the professional gets the plum assignments

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    while Capone gets the usual sloppy seconds.

  • April 20, 2011, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Excellent article, Quint

    by GimpInMyPants

    Quint keeping AICN's integrity alive.

  • April 20, 2011, 2:58 a.m. CST

    halfbreedqueen

    by Angry Mike

    I agree 100%. That is why I don't want to know/hear actors or any artists political opinions. Gibson wasn't giving his opinions for public use. He was recorded without his knowledge. It was a private conversation that wasn't intended for anyone outside of the person on the other end of the phone to hear. It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong. His arrest is also another story, different, but the principles are the same.

  • April 20, 2011, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Gibson Is A Nazi Douchebag, But I Kinda Wanna See This

    by NeonFrisbee

    Something about it has a "The Day The Clown Cried" vibe. Seems like the PERFECT movie for a washed-up pariah having an extended meltdown. It might actually make me respect the man again if he really brings it. Still and all, as much of a douchebag as Gibson became, I still f***ing LOVE the Mad Max movies and think he's awesome in them. I don't care if he's a Nazi hatemongering asshole, those movies are AWESOME, due in no small part to his iconic performance. Even the shitty part 3 was great (imho).

  • April 20, 2011, 9:38 a.m. CST

    People love to bitch...

    by SK229

    and hey, I've done my fair share here as well. But everyone who bitches that the site no longer has news (I include myself) should be singing high praises for these set reports, which I consider interesting movie writing. You can't bitch when it doesn't happen and then still bitch and complain when things are done right. That doesn't even make sense. Re: Quint - I read the WOW report and that was even better than this one, especially the descriptions of approaching base camp. I'm a regular visitor to the site, so I don't know how I missed it the first time around. But as an aspiring filmmaker myself (and actual television editor), I always find it interesting to hear of the amounts of money, people, and equipment marshaled to make movies like that, and those descriptions made it sound almost like you were heading to the mothership landing zone in CET3K. On this one, I liked how you got across just how ordinary the job of making movies can be sometimes (just a couple dudes eating lunch and talkin' movies... one of whom is Mel Gibson), and how, once you're in front of that camera, it doesn't matter who you are, you have to be vulnerable to be good. Lastly - those Cinema World sets are pretty cheesy. They're all standing sets you can rent for parties or for your shoot.

  • April 20, 2011, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Re: hatedperson

    by SK229

    Holy shit, you take rhetoric to a new level. First off, 'he destroyed an entire community?' Ummm.... how? Seriously, I fail to see how WORDS destroy a community unless it inspires action. Words that, like others have pointed out, were meant to be spoken in private. I don't agree with anything he says, but give me a fucking break... the difference between Gibson and those people you mentioned is that with their negligence, PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY HARMED. The drunk driving is inexcusable but he got lucky in that NOBODY WAS HARMED. Hopefully he doesn't do it again and run out of luck. And besides that, if people would throw half as much vitriol towards the fucks on Wall Street, the useless asshats in congress, and the truly evil amoral fuckers running the Fed and the IRS, we might actually get somewhere. Also, re: DRWHO - as BSB pointed out, what he said about blacks is far worse in its implications and deep seated racism than what he said about Jews. And yet, there was no uproar and I'm guessing if Lethal Weapon 5 came out, they'd have no problem with it and just enjoy the flick. I'm guessing this is because any adult with half a brain can process that the dude is just filled with rage and misdirected (key word) anger for who the fuck knows what reason, and at that particular moment he took it out on blacks. In the end, they're just words, and what I find to be the funniest thing is that Gibson is one of the few filmmakers to actually take his own money and shoot something like Apocalypto, fill the cast with indigenous actors AND subtitle the film rather than make it easy for a lazy audience. Meanwhile, if he didn't have complete control, any studio or even most other filmmakers/producers would have have figured out a way to put Matthew McConaughey or Tom Cruise in the middle of that film as some kind of white savior. I remember at the time, when native americans were praising the film for the opportunities, the history, etc. that it represented, one writer smugly said something like, "I guess since he didn't mention them in his anti-semitic rant"... ok, so let's say he DID mention them... it would be more meaningful to have not said anything, been a good PC little actor and continue the status quo of minority parts in big budget films rather than spend millions of your own money in the name of filming an authentic piece of history while also promoting the role and creating further opportunities for that same minority onscreen? That's some crazy ass, through the looking glass PC shit if I've ever heard it, folks.

  • April 20, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Not interested

    by Lummox JR

    Leaving aside the whole Mel Gibson crazy thing because I've never felt well-informed enough on that to feel the least bit judgmental, the premise of this film doesn't have me running to the box office to reserve my ticket. The term "black comedy" is tossed around like a Liberian coin; the people who tend to use it most don't know the difference between dark comedy and tragedy. When a character on the brink of insanity encounters a funny character that only throws his insanity into sharp relief, that isn't dark comedy no matter how funny the MacGuffin is, because all it ends up doing in the end is highlighting the unfunny part. Suburban angst could be fertile ground for either comedy or tragedy of all flavors, if it wasn't overfarmed already. But no matter the soil, I just wish reviewers would learn to tell the difference between one crop and another.

  • April 20, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Logic:

    by CANT_WAIT_TO_HATE

    "Remember hitler was an artist before he turned to killing people so Mel is just one step away from that." ...ain't your strong point.

  • April 20, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST

    halfbreedqueen

    by D o o d

    The fact that he has those opinions, whether meant for private or not, shows what a disgusting person he is inside. He hasn't killed anyone, but I'm sure he genuinely feels hatred towards jews and many other cultures! The guy makes me sick!

  • April 20, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I AGREE - THE DRUNK DRIVING IS A GRAVE OFFENSE

    by BringingSexyBack

    I don't want to downplay that at all. It's fortunate he didn't harm anyone, and I hope he never does that again. It's true, he can easily call a limo and if he enjoys going out he should have a car on standby at all times. The other stuff though? Again, it's just words said in private circumstances. If we value our personal freedoms we need to take into account the context in which he said those things and not use it against him. It's not like he held a press conference and directed racial slurs with the intent of attacking anyone.

  • April 20, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    halfbreedqueen

    by D o o d

    I guess that's where we differ. I will turn against a work of art if I don't agree with the artist or their opinions. If I believe he/she is a disgusting human being for their opinions and I don't stand by that, then the millions they're earning and the stature they reach is directly my fault. By turning my back on him, I'm telling him that it's not OK to have those kind of opinions in this modern world we live in. Embrace and love everyone, whichever life you walk from!

  • April 20, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST

    I DO AGREE WITH DOOD IN PRINCIPLE

    by BringingSexyBack

    I can't get behind Pedanski's work (no matter how good it is, and in any case I think he sucks) because he's a freaking pedophile rapist. I just don't share Dood's rage against Mel. Not speaking for him, but to me, this sanctimonious outrage is hypocritical. Unless Jews have never uttered a negative word about others, then my bad indeed. If that Russian bride of his wasn't clearly a manipulative gold digger, and if he really did abuse her, I *would* feel differently. But she's a skank who deliberately provoked and entrapped him, so a good backhand is the least she deserves.

  • April 20, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    bringingsexyback

    by D o o d

    I don't think I'm being sanctimonious or hypocritical in my outrage. It matters to me very little whether a negative word has been uttered by one party or another. I just, personally, chose not to hate cultures or anyone. Just for the record, my family is muslim, I don't follow any religion myself, nevertheless, people have faiths and they belong to cultures. If mels rant was purely against the "skank" then no one would be having this conversation. However, he extended his rant to an entire culture. Just in case you have forgotten, he did it a couple of times, one when he was drunk and spewed his garbage to the cops and secondly to his now ex. These are just my personal opinions!

  • April 20, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    DOOD

    by BringingSexyBack

    I apologize. I didn't mean to call you sanctimonious or hypocritical. That's the way I feel about much of the outrage being directed at Mel. Thanks for showing you come from a different perspective.

  • April 20, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    So what ... Gibson hates Jews and Blacks

    by Itchy

    Boo Hoo. Who gives a fuck. He's an asshole - he didn't kill anyone. Why people make this guy a pariah and give good old child-drugging-and-ass-raping Roman Polanski a standing ovation I'll never know.

  • April 20, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST

    And one thing about Jodie Foster

    by Itchy

    she's really a pretty lady. And props to her for standing by her friend when it became haute coutre to bash his drunk ass.

  • April 20, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Mel directing a Wolverine film

    by Dlgothv

    Mel directing and starring in Old Man Logan! Fucking awesome!

  • April 20, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST

    bringingsexyback

    by D o o d

    Hey man, I got what you were saying and I can see what you mean. I just wanted to clarify where I stood on the matter. Some people don't care what he said and will still back him and as far as I'm concerned that's ok too.

  • April 20, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Polanski

    by Dlgothv

    Not that I'm excusing the rape charges by any means, but people seem to forget that wasn't it just a year before the rape charges, that Polanski's wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered and their unborn child carved out of her by the Manson family. Do you think just maybe that contributed to his coked-up, alcohol-fueled depression debauchery binge that ended it the way it did? God forbid something that horrifying didn't send someone off the deep end...

  • Was this a reshoot? From the trailers I've seen (that hit every plot point till the last scene) and the way the movie has been talked about, I assumed it was completed many moons ago and they were waiting for people to forget about the Mel divorce tapes for awhile. Anyway, good job getting on set. I don't care anything about Mel's personal life, the guy is always involved in good to great movies...

  • How many actors have been busted for DUI or drugs at some point in there careers? Would you boycott ALL their movies? Really? Do I have to list all of the A-List actors that have put "others lives in danger"? As far as Chinatown being better than anything Mel's been involved in, I don't know. Chinatown was a great, great movie. But, there are many Mel Gibson movies that I would watch over Chinatown if they were on at the same time and that, I think, tells you which movies are more lasting. Wouldn't you rather watch Lethal Weapon, The Road Warrior, Braveheart, or Payback over Chinatown again?

  • April 20, 2011, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Quint, admit your crush to her

    by Nem_Wan

    Jodie Foster must have a very advanced and comprehensive multi-point CreepyScore℠ assessment system by now, dontcha think? It would take some really original crazy to get past even the 50th percentile.

  • April 20, 2011, 7:42 p.m. CST

    I'm rooting for Mel! I hope this film does really well!!

    by Alice Cooper Stalker

    Too much talent behind this film.

  • April 20, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Halfbredline -

    by Itchy

    Obviously, I draw the line at drugging a 13 year and ass raping her while she cried out "no" (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/polanski-predator) And no I don't condone driving drunk, but while 1/1000000 of drunken driving episodes might end in death, 100% of the intentionally getting a 13 year old high and ass raping hers result in a 13 year old getting raped. So I guess I think that's worse.

  • April 20, 2011, 11:21 p.m. CST

    give mel gibson a break you self satisfied hypocrits

    by antonphd

    people say terrible things when they are drunk or in a knock down drag out fight with their family. every single one of you have said just as bad shit under those conditions and you all fucking know it. being a rich and famous entertainer doesn't mean you give up being a human being who deserves to be granted mercy and forgiveness. for god's sake. he never said he was a role model. he never tried to tell others how to act. he was a fucking asshole and he deserved to get shit for it for a bit. but enough already. and enough of the bullshit that he's racist or sexist. he was either drunk or in a fight with family. when you get drunk or in a fight your higher level thinking is retarded and you think more like an animal with instinct. you want to see some racism and sexism watch fucking animal planet. but you cant' judge a person for behaving like a stupid animal when they are thinking like a stupid animal. now, if he were always getting shitfaced or raging angry so he acted like that all the time then he deserves to be judged, because he's making a continual choice to be that way. but he's had some episodes. give the guy some shit but then be a merciful human being and give him a break already.

  • April 22, 2011, 7:39 a.m. CST

    So Gibson has to crawl making this humiliating flick

    by chien_sale

    to please the lefty assholes that he's a sweet kind of guy and only wants to be loved

  • April 22, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST

    antonphd and chien_sale

    by D o o d

    I think you're missing the point. From my personal perspective, I couldn't care less whether he was a friendly or unfriendly person. We all have flaws and we all make mistakes. I've made several of my own throughout life. However, whether in public or in private, I have never outright insulted an entire culture. Whenever I have used words of malice, they have always been in jest and only to the people that really know me and would get the joke. When people have got me angry, I tell them so without picking up on their skin colour or from what culture they come from. Going back to mel, I believe that it's this particular point that people, like me, have picked up on and fairly so (being drunk is not an excuse). He's not placed himself in the role of a model human being to all his fans but you'd think he'd at least be a decent one. So I'm not saying that he's a bad actor and that he's not made any good movies. I'm saying that I choose to no longer watch his movies or buy any blu-rays of his past work to support his career. I'm sure there's plenty of people out there that will but that's the extent of my protest I guess!

  • April 22, 2011, 11:23 a.m. CST

    The Jews may have forgiven Gibson

    by In Action Man Reborn Requiem

    But women with sugar tits will loathe him for all eternity.

  • April 22, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST

    2001

    by Itchy

    Most ponderous, overrated piece of shit in film history. If you sat through the last 30 minutes of Kubrick jerking his lunatic wang all over the projector, you're a turd. I'd rather watch Harry's "acting" in Fanboys on a loop for a half hour than 2001 again.

  • April 22, 2011, 11:43 a.m. CST

    And as for Quint's crush on Jodie Foster

    by Itchy

    Who can blame him ? She's delightful. Smart, hot, and seemingly genuinely nice. I'm right there with him.

  • April 22, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    iamanreborn

    by D o o d

    touche! :o)

  • April 22, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    really?

    by Jo Grant

    First, before it gets forgotten in my rush to the soapbox...really interesting article. After reading I wanted to go back and read up on some of your previous set visits, Quint. ********* Now, on to the whole issue of whether or not Mel Gibson has caused great harm to entire races or ethnic groups and whether or not he's truly worthy of being lumped in with Hitler. Seriously? I've come across very few people in this world that don't have some kind of irrational prejudices towards some group - whether it's a different ethnic or racial group, citizens of a different country, or even someone with different political views. The difference is that they usually either 1) only hint at their true feelings by somewhat obtuse comments or 2) only reveal those views among the like-minded. I have in-laws in the deep south (US), and even in this age of political correctness, their prejudices against African Americans sometimes slip through. When I first was getting to know them, these comments really alarmed me, but over the years I've realized that when people are among those they consider "like minded" this sort of stuff tends to come out. Often, I will try to find a way to challenge it. When my kids were younger, I certainly let them know that such views were indefensible according to our personal religious beliefs, and potentially would hurt the feelings of others. However...even though my father-in-law might say something negative about blacks, he would be the last person in the world who would want to harm anyone. There's a big difference between expressing those prejudices...even though what's in the hearts of those people is just wrong, IMO...and really inciting acts of violence. And when someone is intoxicated, even more of this sort of stuff can come out. I just don't get why someone would believe the rants of a drunken buffoon...even a famous one...would inspire acts of terror or violence against entire races or ethnic groups. People who really stir up those sort of acts control and manipulate others. They whip crowds up to a frenzy. They push and inspire others to do things most outsiders would consider evil - to martyr themselves in the act of killing innocent bystanders, to force poisoned Kool-Aid down the throats of their own children, to justify rape and torture and mass murder. You want to harbor anger against someone, at least pick a worthy target.

  • April 22, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    I think Jodie Foster has some weird political views

    by In Action Man Reborn Requiem

    She is an out but, not way out lesbian which would make you think that she would be kind of a lefty. But, she made "The Brave One" which is a kind of pro gun unofficial "Death Wish" remake. She may very well share some of Mel's more unsavory opinions. I bet she has a T-Shirt that says "Glocks not Cocks."

  • April 22, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST

    so what is Gibson is a hater

    by Nick

    Harry hates veggies and exercise, but we still read his articles everyday...

  • April 22, 2011, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Now I'm going to watch It just to piss you off.

    by Dick-Blitskreig

  • April 23, 2011, 2:56 a.m. CST

    hatedperson he shouldn't be because he was right

    by chien_sale

    you're saying Jews don't run Hollywood? you're saying they did not make life for him difficult? he was trying to shop Passion of the Christ around town and nobody bite. After the success of the movie he may as well have had a bullseye on his back.

  • April 23, 2011, 5:04 a.m. CST

    Sweet old grandma

    by TenThousandBears

    Hey Quint, when granny made that crack over Sunday dinner about your aunt looking like a bitch in heat that deserves to be raped by a pack of niggers did the rest of the family roll their eyes and smile in fond tolerance?

  • April 24, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST

    @antonphd

    by Movietool

    You may be trolling, but I'll bite: Speak for yourself. I've been both really drunk and really angry in my life. Being really drunk or really angry does not fundamentally change you as a person. A liberal doesn't suddenly start thinking like a conservative when he's drunk. A Red Sox fan doesn't suddenly become a Yankees fan. Being really drunk or really angry eliminates inhibitions, prompting you to say what's on your mind. What's REALLY on your mind. And when his inhibitions were down, when his social filter was eliminated, Mel Gibson showed his true colors. I can't judge him? It's the PERFECT time to judge him, because you're seeing him at his most distilled. For Gibson, that included calling women "sugar-tits" and claiming that Jews have started every major war in the world. I can't judge him? He belongs to a fundamentalist Catholic church which teaches that anyone who doesn't believe in their particular take on God is going to suffer for all eternity. This is not a live-and-let-live philosophy. You don't get to belong to an organization that points it's accusatory finger at most of the world's populace and tell them that God is going to burn them all and then expect for people to not point back. He never tried to tell others how to act? What the hell was The Passion all about? Do you KNOW what a passion play is? What passion plays were historically used as? They were propaganda, meant to do two things: (1)Show people how horribly Christ suffered for their sins, and (2)remind them that it was the Jews who did it. You can't drop the biggest passion play the world has ever seen and then NOT expect the world to question what your motivations behind it were. Passion plays were (partly) about giving people reasons to hate Jews. In other words, to tell people how they should act. Is it so outrageous to think that maybe that's what The Passion was trying to do too? Honestly, I don't know if Mel really is an anti-Semite or a racist. But don't tell me to ignore all the clear evidence he is in order to be a "merciful human." Mercy should be reserved for the truly repentant man. I know Mel has claimed to be so. I just don't believe him. And since his films and and his church feel entitled to judge me, I feel entitled to judge him.

  • April 24, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    movietool

    by D o o d

    That is a very well written argument that a lot of people like me whole heartedly believe. Well done Sir! (yes I've just knighted you, now kneel before Zod!)

  • April 24, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    DO UNTO OTHERS, AS YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO UNTO YOU!

    by sandman12345

  • April 24, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    DO UNTO OTHERS...

    by sandman12345

    Mel Gibson has a lot of prroblems indeed. However that does not excuse him for spouting all of the hate that he has for so many years. He should Do unto others as he would have others do unto him. We all should. If you don't want people to treat you poorly, and think badly of you, then don't do it to others. How about discussing problems like civilized individuals instead of blaming everybody for all of the problems in the world. Take some responsibility for your own actions and make the world better by first making yourself a better person. We all, including Mel Gibson, have a lot of evolving to do. Incidentally, My wife and I both met mel gibson about 10 years ago at the Paramount Commisary and at first he seemed very nice. However, when he found out that my wife was not a big hollywood producer, he became much less friendly. Good thing he didn't know she was Jewish. Another thing, don't compare the rants and escapades of other actors to Mel Gibson's circumstances. They are far different situations and one wrong dosen't make any other wrongs right. They all have done bad things and deserve what they got.

  • April 24, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Mel is a very unhappy person.

    by sandman12345

  • April 24, 2011, 4 p.m. CST

    Mel Gibson is a very unhappy person...

    by sandman12345

    Mel Gibson is a very unhappy person who has a lot of hate in his heart. He was abused as a child by his hate monger of a father who passed it down to him. There is a saying... Hurt people, hurt people. and he has and will continue to do so as long as he does not address his problems. By the sound of his recorded conversations, he is not only anti-semetic, but anti all minorities. A sad, sad person indeed. He, is a good actor to be sure. However, I will only view his movies on cable from now on. He does not deserve my money nor any one elses for that matter. He has enough money for 500 lifetimes anyway. By the way, his so called "new movie" The Beaver" is almost a year and a half old. Get some help Mel. You obviously need it badly. (sad, because my wife and I really used to admire you.)

  • April 24, 2011, 6:23 p.m. CST

    I dated a jewish girl once

    by brobdingnag

    she had fake titties and a nose job and worked my dick like a champ, but she did betray me. Just saying.

  • April 24, 2011, 6:31 p.m. CST

    "Mel Gibson has done damage to an entire community of people. "

    by brobdingnag

    That is the most butt hurt collectivist horse shit I've read in a long time. Free speech really puts sand in your pussy doesn't it?

  • April 25, 2011, midnight CST

    All we should care about

    by Raggles Wimpole

    When it comes to actors like Mel Gibson is what they do when they're doing their jobs. Sure he may be a loathsome, morally-corrupt person to some & a saint to others, but none of that really has any bearing with he does on-screen. Once I get done watching them perform, my concern for an actor/actress/ musician ends. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I wouldn't care if something really awful happens to them (they get killed or kill somebody), but these people are all human beings, albeit world famous human beings, with personal lives and problems like the rest of us. What they do seems amplified simply because it's broadcast on television & written about in newspapers. What happens to these stars really isn't any more of our business than what your neighbor or the guy who lives two states over does behind closed doors. It is made our business by shows like TMZ & tabloids who plaster these reports all over TV & magazines. You also have to take into account how someone like Gibson who, as the face of the product, has riding on his shoulders a multi-million dollar movie, which in turn means he's partly responsible for the fortune, or misfortune, of the hundreds working on the film. You must also realize that, unlike when you or I make a mistage & are certain of who's responsible, none of us really know exactly what happened in his personal life. And if you really want to get personal, you can go back through history & find at least 100 celebrities who have done so much worse things than Mel who have gone on to find forgiveness & pretty much make people forget what they did. Now don't get me wrong, I find some of the things Gibson did deplorable & ignorant, but he is a human & as such should really not be held to a higher standard then everyone else.

  • April 25, 2011, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Two points two ponder

    by TenThousandBears

    First, does free speech necessarily mean you're immune from criticism and condemnation when you say terrible things? IMHO, free speech means there's no legal repercussions from speaking your mind, but I reserve the right to analyze the things you say and conclude you're an asshole. Secondly, for those who are able to separate the man from his work riddle me this: You have a dentist you've been going to for year and he's great. No pain, you have beautiful teeth and the receptionist gives you a hummer after she gives you the gas. One day you notice a klan hood hanging up on the dentists coat rack and upon questioning the dentist agrees that he hates Jews and thinks trashy women deserve to be raped by packs of niggers. Do you still go to that dentist?

  • April 26, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Alan Ladd

    by ragingfluff

    "a famous star from the '40s and '50s". You sound surprised. Have you ever heard of a little flick called 'Shane'?