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TrekMovie.com Source: Frakes Was Mistaken!! Bryan Singer Never Pitched A STAR TREK Series To Paramount!!
Jonathan Frakes recently claimed he heard that "Shit My Dad Says" star William Shatner and “X-Men” director Bryan Singer both pitched “Star Trek" TV series to Paramount. But a TrekMovie.com source says the “Next Generation” star was wrong about Singer. That filmmaker never got around to pitching a “Trek” series.
The same site, however, reports that shortly after the cancellation of “Star Trek: Enterprise” Singer asked “Free Enterprise” writer-director Robert Meyer Burnett to prepare a Trek TV pitch. Singer never forwarded the pitch to Paramount, according to the story, after he learned J.J. Abrams was preparing a new “Trek” feature.
TrekMovie.com also tracked down details about the Burnett pitch, co-authored with Geoffrey Thorne. Here the site describes the main characters populating “Star Trek: Federation”:
Captain Alden Montgomery: Human and the "perfect Starfleet officer" who is "The Captain America of the Federation" but who unfortunately gets killed off early on, leaving room for…Commander Alexander Kirk: (X-O and 3rd in command) Reinstated for the new mission Kirk is described as having a "checked past" with an "aggressive manner" who is thrust into leading the mission after Montgomery and first officer get killed and is able to deal with it well, but is "total crap at PR aspects of job." He alone (even though he doesn’t understand it) "possesses information vital to Enterprise’s true mission."
Lt. Cmdr. Chel Forlaan (Security Chief): A female Ektosi (a feline species) who has "cat-like" grace, temper and insight with natural hand-to-hand combat capabilities akin to Jem Hadar or Klingon. Joined Starfleet for the "fun", posesses a "mercurial nature" which initially makes her ill-suited to security chief. Biggest flaw is "intense curiosity which sometimes overpowers her." (get it? she’s a cat!)
Lt. Cmdr. Sergei Kenyatta (Com & Political Officer): A genetically enhanced human "Alpha" from Proxima Centauri, with a perfect physique along with mental enhancements. Described as gifted in math, linguistics, technology, and diplomacy, yet struggles with personal relationships.
The 76th Distillation of Blue (aka Diz) (Chief Engineer) a member of a gaseous species from the gas giant Penumbra who use "motion suits" to interact with the rest of the "solid" universe. For the show Diz would look like "a slender male humanoid" in the suit, but he can also appear in his gasous state or even change to a solid or a liquid, but he is "not a shape shifter." Described as a fantastic engineer who is more at home with machines than with other people.
Dr. Felicity Chen: A cybernetically enhanced physician based on (now safely evolved) Borg technology. Many medical instruments are built into her, so no need for tricorder. She can use her "nanospines" to heal injuries, but there is a personal cost to her. She still has to wrestle with her own humanity
M.A.J.E.L.: The sentient Enterprise computer (Multitronic Architecture Junction/Interactive Energetic Library) that runs the ship and his a personality of her own, including emotions.
Admiral Nelscott: Female Starfleet admiral who saw the threat of The Scourge and bucked the system to get the Enterprise project launched. Not on board the ship, but issuing orders from Starfleet HQ.
The site also summarizes the series’ first four episodes, which all featured fancy titles:
1. The Widening Gyre: Alden Montgomery encounters another planet where the inhabitants have destroyed themselves in an ‘orgy of violence’. Admiral Nelscott orders him to put together his crew for the fast-tracked Enterprise project, leading Montgomery on an origin story recruiting mission picking up various staff, including Kirk who is no longer in Starfleet and doesn’t want to join, but is the only person who has dealt with The Scourge (forcing Montgomery to "Shanghai" Kirk).2. The Blood-Dimmed Tide: Kirk and Dr. Chen explore a found small alien obelisk and deal with the crew of the Enterprise who have become victims of the violent "Scourge", including the Captain.
3. Mere Anarchy: The Enterprise chases a larger alien obelisk through space, eventually leading them into hostile Klingon space.
4. The Ceremony of Innocence: Kirk, now trapped in the obelisk with some Klingons, gets to the bottom of the mystery only to find out the Obelisks are tied to the Preservers (from TNG) who had seeded the galaxy with the building blocks of humanoid DNA.
What say you, talkbackers? Was Singer’s decision not to bring the Burnett/Thorne pitch to Paramount foolish?
Find all of TrekMovie’s story on the matter here.
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..and then, there's naming your Captain 'Kirk' and calling it new. Really, that's my only complaint. Too much genuflecting at TOS. The treatment seems to get what was good with TOS, TNG, and DS9 and steals liberally from it. I wish this had happened instead of Enterprise.
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But I guess anything would have been preferable to Kurtzman and Orci.
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It would be better to set the next Star Trek at least 500 years post Voyager. That way they can wipe the slate clean. And because Voyager broached subjects like the federation having time travel capability and science guff like "liquid space" we can have some really good off beat writing instead of being bogged down in almost political discourse that was prevalent in DS9.
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Sounds like they had gone out there a bit too far, a Dr with borg based enhancements? When would they ever do that (unless Dr was previously a member of the collective at some point), plus all the crew seem to be 'special' in som way - a gasious form, a feline cat-like alien, a genetically engineered super-person, none of them seems normal, which is kinda what Star Trek was about - the human condition.
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Seemed like with each succeeding series (with teh exception of Enterprise) that came along, there would be fewer and fewer actual HUMAN characters on the show, which to me, seems to defeat the purpose of what Star Trek is supposed to be about. STAR TREK: KIRK, MCCOY, SCOTTY, UHURA, SULU, CHECKOV, Spock - 7/1 TNG: PICARD, RIKER, LAFORGE, B. CRUSHER, W. CRUSHER, Troi, Data, Worf. - 5/3 DS9: SISKO, OBRIEN, BASHIR, Quark, Dax, Odo, Kira - 3/4 Voyager: JANEWAY, CHAKOTAY, PARIS, KIM, Neelix, Tuvok, Doctor, Torres, Kes, 7 of 9 (yes, I know she's human by birth, but she's a Borg character) - 4/5 Enterprise: ARCHER, TUCKER, REED, MAYWEATHER, SATO, Phlox, T'Pol - 5/2 Then comes this crap with only ONE actual, purely human character on it. Star Trek is supposed to be about the HUMAN experience in space. I have no problems with Sci-Fi shows that have a cast of alien or "altered" humans but I feel that if you're going to have a STAR TREK show, you've gotta have the humans outnumber the alien or android or genetically engineered human characters otherwise it feels watered down. Just seems like the producers feel they can't write or sell a show without characters that have some kind of "hook" to them. Gotta say, after looking over this proposed series, I think Singer did us a favor by not handing in this pitch.
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I like the nod to Majel Roddenberry.
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Sounds miles better than the whole run of the boring Enterprise. I actually like this pitch somewhat, though didn't specify the timeframe? The characters sound potentially more intersting and dynamic than anyone off enterprise..I cant even remember the name of the boring black lieutenant? Anyone? I'd love to se another trek series but without Rick BERMAN AND CRONIES WHO RAN THE FRANCHISE INTO THE GROUND.!!!!
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Yamayama has it down, wipe the slate clean and do something from leftfield. After watching hundreds upon hundreds of episodes with effectively the same characters doing the same shit, it starts to drag. Launch it 500 years into the future and you can do whatever the fuck you want, make your own badass Federation history in the previous 5 centuries. BSG has set the bar for TV sci-fi pretty high though*, any new Trek series is gonna have to go a long way to even match it. *BSG's series end cluster fuck apart
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April 18, 2011, 6:47 a.m. CST
Overall I like it. But agree needs a couple more human characters
by Rebel Scumb
Killing off the perfect captain + first officer early on and leaving the 3rd officer incharge is something I always thought would be cool in trek, so good to see it here Actually if I ever did my own trek show, the 6th episode was going to be called 'red shirt' and the episode would start with 5 main characters and a red shirt getting into a shuttle, and then they get hit with a photon torpedo or something and the shuttle explodes, the transporter chief does one of those emergency beams during the explosion. But there is only one survivor. the redshirt! Aside from the obvious joke, I've just always wanted a tv episode that kills 4+ main characters in one go. I don't think its ever been done, and this would be in a non-finale, non-Noble self sacrifice way. I'd want a show where the cast is changing regularly and you never know who will live or for how long.
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April 18, 2011, 6:48 a.m. CST
This pitch is set in the 30th century, so it IS 500 years in the future
by Rebel Scumb
It was mentioned in one of the previous articles about this pitch.
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Interesting.. Sounds more unique than what we got previously. Who knows. I'm sure I would've given it a chance. Either way, they made the right decision to go with the movie.
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April 18, 2011, 6:53 a.m. CST
I also agree that having a character named Kirk is lame
by Rebel Scumb
But if this is just the pitch materials, the show would obviously have gone through rewriters and various other permutations before the pilot was shot. This is at least a good blue-print
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Not every member of the bridge crew needs to be some unique oddball requiring a paragraph of explanation... one is fine, like Spock or Data. Apart from that, the crew should be the best of the best but still relatively normal people. (And by people I don't necessarily mean humans, but something identifiable like Klingons, Vulcans, etc.) And I can't for the life of me figure out why there is a Kirk involved here at all. Point?
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Or giving Bryan Fullers idea go? Assuming they both would still want to pitch their ideas again/in the same way they planned it before. Seriously, the meta-specifics of JJs New Trek in relation to classic Trek has been covered, the original universe still exists... why the hell not get a series like this off the ground if someone still wants to? Do people think younger folks and kids are Morons who won't get that JJs Trek and Original/80s/90s Trek are set in different timelines/parallel universes respectively? Its almost like Lost or Farscape never actually happened for gods sake...
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April 18, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST
Whats stopping them from doing it now for Christ sakes? Or giving Bryan Fullers idea a go?
by Smack_Teddy
For people who get wound up with bad SPG
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The captain is a descendant of Kirk! The doctor is a cyborg enhanced with Borg tech! The security chief is a humanoid cat, just like M'Ress! It sounds like something from a fanscript. I'm surprised the ship doesn't transform into a giant mech like the SDF-1.
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What hairpin curve will this story take next?
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The simple formula is, do you relate to them / want to bone them? For example, take Troi. She was an alien, but if you were a woman, you could relate to her, and if you were a guy, you wanted to bone the hell out of her (and if you didn't want to bone Marina Sirtis, you are dead inside). Same deal with Dax. If you can't relate to it, and you don't want to bone it, It will only work as a novelty character - and you only need one novelty character.
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Y'know if anyone would do that idea of wiping out 4 main characters at once...it's probably Whedon. The man LOVES killing his characters.
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The crew of the Enterprise needs to travel back through time to find the one man who can help save the future: James Franco has... The Cure.
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That's because, deep down, even he can't stand the smug, self-aware fuckers.
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April 18, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST
Peter David's New Frontier would have made for interesting adaption...
by Shut the Fuck up Donny
There are at least two or three human (or so close to human it didn't matter) main characters, a couple wacky alien races in the ranks, and a totally unexplored region of space... Calhoun has the Kirk swagger, too. But then again, characters like Burgoyne 172 probably would probably be a nightmare for the standards counsel...
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IMO, it's always hard to tell from a blurb what a show will be like. I thought the early descriptions of TNG were awful, and I was excited by the early descriptions of Enterprise. I would at least have given this a chance.
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April 18, 2011, 8:03 a.m. CST
Too close to existing Trek series. Some nice ideas in there.
by V'Shael
But not enough to reinvent the series.
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I'd be more inclined to believe this was a real pitch if the first four episode titles weren't all from the same WB Yeats poem and one of the major characters wasn't named MAJEL.
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I think it sounded pretty good myself. To the commenter who said this sounds too much like Voyager, it does but I think Singer & company's take would be a hell of a lot fresher and on the money than the warmed over, rehashed vanilla crap Berman & company served us.
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Seems like a 17 year old wrote that shit.
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"excels at their job, but has issues relating to other people"? <p>
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Apparently their ship was to be the Red October.
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Feel like there are hints of Halo in there.
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April 18, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST
Because Red Dwarf proved how valuable a human cat can be.
by cookylamoo
I wonder if this woman had a penchant for fancy clothes.
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Yes, unfortunately he seems to love it for the shock value more than how it serves the story. When I heard Hawkeye would be in Whedon's Avengers movie my first thought was "I betcha he's the one who buys it" (the only main character I could see Marvel giving an OK to to killing off).
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April 18, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST
"I'd want a show where the cast is changing regularly and you never know who will live or for how long."
by jim
Another reason why I think a TV show adapted from Strikeforce Morituri would be a hit (at least around here).
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I'm sure his "checked past" means Starfleet did a criminal background check on him at some point. They should also have the various crew members leave reviews of the captain on Angie's List. You know, dealing with modern problems and such.
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So... one of the characters is a Hooloovoo?
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Aside from Free Enterprise Burnett's work has been largely shit so his involvement doesn't mean anything other than he loves Trek. I think having a "Catwoman" on the crew sounds pretty stupid, but I like everything else. I don't understand what the time period is though. Who the fuck is Alexander Kirk? what is "The Enterprise Project"? Is this a complete reboot of the series?
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Star Trek: Excelsior. They could've/should've done a series based on Sulu in command of the USS Excelsior. With Christian Slater as his second in command, I think it would have been a great start to a show that is more TREK than Voyager or Enterprise ever were. I might have even had Robert Picardo as the original doctor, Dr. Lewis Zimmerman, as the ship's head of medical. Thing is...they can still do a tv show based on Captain Sulu...they don't need to make some crap up. With Abram's movie series up and running, this version of Sulu can exist now. I also wouldn't mind a series that was solely based in the Mirror Mirror universe of Trek. That would be interesting in a weekly series.
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also pitched a star trek series, a reboot of TOS, which might have included a female scotty
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because that's what this reads like.
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No love for the jms proposal? It re-imagined the orginal characters (meaning it would be useless now), with on over-arching conspiracy theme (a la 'Fringe' or 'Alias') about the architects of the Universe. Anyone got the details on that pitch?
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Read the article. Singer didn't write any of that.
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April 18, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST
I'd actually kind of like a trek on a small ship where its only the main characters
by Rebel Scumb
No redshirts or extras populating the corridors. So if someone dies, its someone important, plus it also makes sense why the away missions would be the entire command staff, when in reality, you'd probably send a bunch of ensigns in first to secure the area instead the entire bridge staff!
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Got enough females in that cast?
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... they're quotes from William Butler Yeats' poem "The Second Coming." They've been used so many times, especially by mystery writers, as titles that they're a little clichéd at this point. Then again, this whole project sounds clichéd. M.A.J.E.L.??? <eyeballs rolling in head>
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So Singer asked someone else to write some fanfic on his behalf?<p> same thing really.
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Damn it!
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I couldn't help but think that one of the characters sounds like a sentient blue fart, and then there was that computer thing. "M.A.J.E.L.: The sentient Enterprise computer (Multitronic Architecture Junction/Interactive Energetic Library)." Holy hell. I think M.A.J.E.L. wins the award for the worst sci-fi acronym I have ever heard. Why is it that sci-fi writers, especially those that write for TV and film, feel that a sentient artificial intelligence wouldn't be capable of choosing its own name?
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This reads like some pretty middling fanfic. Kudos to Singer for declining to forward this to Paramount.
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April 18, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST
If the studios/networks want a Star Trek kind of show, then they should look at Mass Effect
by lv_426
Mass Effect's fictional universe of games, novels, comic books, and next year an anime anthology film too, would be a great jumping off point for a new space opera type of TV series. They could create new characters separate from the games' storyline so as not to rehash the video game's epic storyline. The universe is deep and diverse enough for a whole new story arc and various subplots.
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..but knowing the whole time that it was doomed to early cancellation. Parts of it just strike me as far too silly.If there will be another series in the Trek universe, it will need to stand out and be radically different in stories, design and execution. With characters that don't sound like they were "rolled" into being.
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I would have watched the first few episodes, at least. I gave Voyager about 10 episodes. I gave Enterprise 2. As long as it didn't feature an "alien" that hosted a cooking show.
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"I'd actually kind of like a trek on a small ship where its only the main characters. No redshirts or extras populating the corridors. So if someone dies, its someone important, plus it also makes sense why the away missions would be the entire command staff, when in reality, you'd probably send a bunch of ensigns in first to secure the area instead the entire bridge staff!" I'd love to see a Trek series like that. This was one of the things I loved about Battlestar Galactica. You wouldn't see Adama, Tigh, or President Roslin jumping into a Viper every time the Cylons showed up or going down to some planet with a squad of colonial marines every damn episode. They had the younger officer characters like Apollo, Starbuck, and Boomer there to do most of that stuff and it made sense.
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April 18, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST
If the ship is controlled by a sentient computer, is there any need for a crew?
by jim
(except for maybe a couple of engineers) Geepers, Captain would be the easiest job in the world "Yeah, what the computer said. Engage. Already engaged? Oh, ok. Um, if anyone needs me I'll be wasting power hanging out on the Holodeck (which we still haven't perfected and every time we use it run the risk of putting the ship into some life-or-death peril)"
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'Tis true, the scale of Emma Frost's bust is legendary
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April 18, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST
How about a Trek series that starts out with a crew whose ship is not Starfleet or The Federation?
by lv_426
The ship could be a Millenium Falcon/Serenity type of illegal smuggler craft, a mercenary warship, or a legal freighter. Throughout the series, as galactic politics heat up and maybe a war is brewing or something, they are called into service for the war effort, or volunteer, or act as mercenaries for The Federation? Actually, a semi-shady mercenary ship would be really cool. It could still have the classic Trek staple of a human/alien crew. They could operate on the fringes of Federation space, taking jobs for various colonies/civilizations/species, until later in the series the big galactic war heats up and they have to choose which side to support. Thematic material would be how the mercenaries see The Federation and Starfleet. Not to villainize Starfleet or anything, but maybe one of the characters, perhaps the captain, was once a dedicated Starfleet officer until he had a bad experience or was abandoned by Starfleet ("the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one") during an important mission. While the captain has a grudge against Starfleet, one of the younger more idealistic characters wants to be in Starfleet, but had to settle for working on the merc ship because he or she were ineligible for Starfleet service. There would be various views of Starfleet amongst the human and alien crewmembers. Each character's views would change through the course of the series. This would also allow them to show Starfleet and The Federation as more realistic entities, but not to tarnish them or make them out as silly villainous organizations either. The show could still have that pioneering spirit of exploring and living out in the vast frontiers of deep space, just as Roddenberry intended. It would be different. A little Firefly and Farscape thrown in for good measure for sure, but still Star Trek all the way.
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you do know that M.A.J.E.L. is a nod to Majel Barrett, Gene Roddenberry's wife and the voice of the ship's computer in all the shows, including Abrams' movie, even after she died? People who make snarky comments about Whedon killing characters or the characters being 'smug' are just repeating shallow criticisms that don't take into account the actual content of the shows. For the most part, Whedon only killed off characters we truly cared about to serve the purpose of the story, so that when it happens, it's painful, but it pushes the characters and the story to where it needs to be. And his characters are anything but smug. If anything, they're incredibly flawed (and yeah, sometimes they're 'self-aware' of those flaws) and any seeming 'smugness' comes from joking used to cover up their own fear and weakness. kinda like Peter Parker (but in the comics, not the movies). If you actually watched any of his shows with any consistency (as opposed to just repeating things based on 'reputation'), you'd see how weak those 'critiques' actually are.
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... it brought life and hope back to the series regardless of what critics may say. I was happy with most of the fourth season of Enterprise and would have loved to see what Manny Coto could have done with it. The Burnett pitch doesn't catch me. I would have rather seen a Star Trek: Academy series or something.
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April 18, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST
You're right, an Excelsior show would have been... Excelsior
by Robert79797979
Seeing Captain Sulu in the original series universe would have been great, and I thought this before he got popular for coming out.
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"you do know that M.A.J.E.L. is a nod to Majel Barrett, Gene Roddenberry's wife and the voice of the ship's computer in all the shows, including Abrams' movie, even after she died?" I do remember hearing years ago that Roddenberry's wife did the ship computer voice overs, but I didn't recall or make the connection with her name Majel and the acronym. Still though, I would think it would have been clever if the ship's computer were given some silly acronym and the computer says screw that, I will be called Majel because I choose that name. Although, I suppose they didn't want an uppity computer on a starship, as Starfleet might not want a computer system or AI with enough free will and gumption to get in the way of the captain and the ship's crew.
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"Checked past" is almost certainly a transcription error, and originally read "checkered past." The expression means "marked with alternation or contrast," i.e. the character has a dubious history which is not all black or all white. The pitch sounds like an attempt to hybridize elements of TOS (bad boy captain on the edge of the frontier), TNG (renewed sense of scientific discovery, promoting human values and principles) and DS9 (conflicted characters against a backdrop of religious and political turmoil), which is understandable ... but it's also a potential weakness in terms of carving out its own identity. VOY and ENT both squandered their respective opportunities to "boldly go" and be something original and satisfying. Would FED have succeeded where they failed? Given enough time (even if its measured in decades), Star Trek WILL return to the small screen in some shape or form. I hope I'm around to see how it stacks up!
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April 18, 2011, 1 p.m. CST
M.A.J.E.L., as in Majel Barrett, Roddenbury's wife and voice of the Enterprise computer? Total freakin' fan-fic, people.
by gruntybear
This pitch blows, and is most likely fake.
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Is a bad ass captain like the original Kirk, a real man's man. What Trek needs is a Jack Bauer! If I were to reboot Star Trek on the small screen I would create a post-TNG space action/adventure that escapes the confines of the stuffy goody goody Starfleet persona. My series would take place in a remote unknown part of space where a convert Starfleet operation would pit cutting edge Federation Technology against a primitive war-like race with epic numbers and ruthless tactics. Our hero would be a seasoned ex-federation rouge captain who, when we meet him, leads a rag tag bunch of mercenaries aboard a rickety old Klingon Warbird. In the pilot our hero captain, facing the reality that he no longer wants to live the life he's found himself in, decides to lead his crew on one more mission. The Target for the our Hero's final Mission is the USS Titan, Riker's Ship. The Titan is transporting some rare artifacts from a dig on a nearby planet. Our hero has created the perfect plan to steal the artifact from right under Riker's nose, except it means our Hero won't be coming back. The operation goes as planned and the crew is completely unaware of their plans, except his trusted first officer. Our Hero's ship escapes under command of his trusted first officer who becomes captain of the merc crew. Our hero is captured and put in the brig where he is questioned by Riker. On route to Starbase to transfer the Prisoner, Riker's ship is intercepted by a Starfleet Intelligence vessel carrying a High Ranking Admiral. This Admiral knows our hero (they once fought together when our hero was a federation officer) and our hero's history fighting in the Dominion wars. (This would be fleshed out in much more detail, as well as the admiral's info) He knows our hero is the best battle captain in the galaxy. Our hero is recruited and joins the secret Starfleet initiative (would have some kind of cool name of acronym). There would be ultra cool new starships with advanced weapons, covert operations with hand to hand and phaser fights, and of course wicked space battles. Now that would be a cool Trek Show. But for now I can just dream...
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HA HA HA HA HA! No....seriously? HA HA HA HA! Holy shit was a bag of fucking ASS that idea is! *long, deep inhale* HA HA HA HA HA!
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Rise of the Dawn of the Genesis of the Beginning or the Birth of the Planet of the Apes will in fact be a soggy pile of C rate shite. No link to the trailer ? No talkback ? Geez, the guys running this site must be *really* embarrased by the turn around they are facing on this one... I remember when this site used to have the inside scoop on projects... if they said something was gonna be good, you could pretty much put money on it. But these days... not so much. To say the least. Oh and yeah... M.A.J.E.L ? ... Really ? No wonder Singer never pitched this.... he, unlike some around hear, can clearly smell a stinker from a good distance and has sense enough to steer well clear.
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I was thinking about Disney's The Black Hole has a muse. We could start off with a Federation Romulan ship exploring an unknown part of the universe when the Black Hole warp drive that they use malfunctions and pulls the ship into an unknown universe/existence, and they spend their time getting to grips with the sheer alien nature of this universe (eg; the universal translator doesnt work) Get H R Giger to design the ship, the uniforms and the universe's main aliens and creatures.
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That's just stupid.
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Robotic Operational Deutronic Decimal Evolutionary Nanotastic Belligerent Encompassing Revolutionary Redundant Yottabyte. There, I just made a pitch that makes at least as much sense as what they did.
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stands for the computer acronym: Kick Ass - Intelligent - Robotic - Kommander
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Special - Processing - Overseer - Computer - Kinsman
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Sword wielding - Underwear stealing - Lover of male red shirts - Under your bed... waiting for you to go to sleep
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Commie - Host of Ceti eel - Ensign - Khan hater - stranded On - Ceti Alpha V
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Sloshed out of his mind on Scottish whiskey - Clansman - On - The five year mission - To explore - Yet he "just can't do it captain!"
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Bio - Organic - Robo - Goths
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JUST for the fucking love of God - JUST tell me - ASIMOVLIVES - BE precise as to the - REASON for why you hate - Jar Jar ABRAMS' - MORONIC MONKEY ass version of - STAR WARS TREK so much?
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Was it really that bad? Oh well you still read it and that's 2 minutes of your life you can never have back! ha Winning!
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Very - Unexcitable - Logical - Cold - Alien - Nerd - Species
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April 18, 2011, 2:12 p.m. CST
A human cat, a neer-do well and a robot that runs everything.
by cookylamoo
So where's Arnold Rimmer?
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Pissy - Intelligent - Captain - And - Royally Shakespearian - Dude who loves Earl Grey tea
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Even the gas creature was pink.
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terminator, robocop, lara croft and watto as the crew
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This is a prime example of how Trek has been left behind by other media, doing it better. A trek show would end up being a copy of the game or something very like it, the game itself taking the style and drama or TOS and TNG and making it really really sing. It's inevitable that Trek is going to wind up back on the TV. Whats not so sure is if its going to be based around the original timeline or the new one from the new movies... Or a whole reboot of its own. TOS, TNG, DS9, Voy and Ent all had Genes, well genes running through them, the new movie certainly does not. Will a new series, so divorced by time from Gene and his plans for the trek-verse, will it be a Trek show, or SG1/Firefly with a trek skin?
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... by that show not being on the air. ugh.
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It's the only sure way to defeat an alien in hand-to-hand combat.
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fixed the timeline back to the way it was suppose to be. So that way the new timeline won't get in the way of him fucking with Picard!
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There's nothing to fix. The Prime timeline continues to exist parallel to the new timeline created by the Narada.
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Why in the world would a gaseous creature have any interest in mechanics? Fucking stupid. And tell me when a computer with personality and emotions has ever been done well? Why the FUCK would we even WANT A.I. that has emotions? Such a stupid fucking idea I want to rip out my eyes and throw them at the computer screen. I want to floss my ass with razor wire then cauterize it with a blowtorch! Fuck this shit.
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The elemental message of Trek (whether it was the original intention or not) is that all of humanity shares a common destiny, so the crew needs diversity - representation of groups that may not automatically see themselves getting along in the present. You include one alien as an outside commentator on humanity. It's a nice, easy formula.<BR><BR> Yes, the Federation as a whole contains many more aliens, but if the crew we focus on is too alien, the ability to show our present stereotypes in a pleasant light is lost.<BR><BR> The original Trek was a product of the cold war and so Klingons represented the intractable enemy that our society just wasn't quite ready to make peace with. Worf was a bit of gimmick who worked more because Micheal Dorn was such a fantastic actor in the role than because a permanent Klingon on the crew was really needed.<BR><BR> The intractable enemy of our culture in this day and age is religious extremism. Trek canon has various immortal omnipotent beings in it. Create a fantasy alien religion around one of them, one that is attempting to pull a reluctant diety (eg: the Douwd from "The Survivors") out of hiding and get it reshaping the universe (even if it doesn't want to).<BR><BR> I do like the idea of using the Preservers for a long-term story arc (I felt "The Chase" was an epic story crammed into a single episode), but it feels like that should be a much longer and subtler story than to already be invoking their name by episode 4.
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From the planet Soa'Popera.
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April 18, 2011, 6:43 p.m. CST
Bryan Singer explains partial failure of Superman Returns!!!
by wackybantha
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.thehollywoodreporter.com/bryan-singer-why-superman-returns-didnt-work
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that entire pitch was fucking horrible
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April 18, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST
Does anyone remember the Swartzenagger cameo in ST: Insurrection that almost happened?
by Rebel Scumb
I just remembered this, but after First Contact, Frakes was tapped to direct a sequel to Total Recall (which never happened). So was in talks with Arnold a lot, leading up to the production of Insurrection. I remember reading an interview with Frakes where he mentioned that Arnold was interested in doing a cameo, and supposedly he was going to be a starfleet admiral with a brief scene with Picard. It never materialized, but that would of been really funny (if amazingly out of place) Admiral Gedtudachoppah: "Captoon Peekod! So gude to see you. I've god sam nu awdurs for you. De Anterpries es to randayvoo vith za Sona sheep in da briah poge" Captain Picard: "Of course admiral, right away" Admiral Gedtudachoppah: "Und Captain, reemamber; I don't won eny Een-zurrections on dis meeshon! Dat wude be... ay BEEG MASTAIK"
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My brother and I used to joke about having a 3's company style sitcom set in the Star Trek UNiverse. Now I think to myself... why not? Can't have done worse that Enterprise.
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Marsters as the captain. He was a hardcore Trekkie/Trekker or whatever the fuck they call themselves since he was a kid. He also auditioned for Shinzon.
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Already been done mate. See the last two seasons of Stargate SG-1. Look, it's quite simple. If you want aliens, they'd better be either relatable (Data), or cute (Troi). I liked Troi - and I appreciate her even more as I get older. She looked fine in her one piece in the later seasons, and even now at 56 Marina looks damn good for her age.
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i saw that a few episodes of that arc and found it insanely boring. It didn't seem to actually *say* anything, it was all "oh no, an invincible enemy threatening us".<BR><BR> (aside: I think US dramas have too many episodes per season - you end up with too much filler as the writers burn out trying to keep up)
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He's all grown up now, it'd be both continuity and very different from how he was.
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Why not? In my opinion, a crew of mostly alien characters would be a great reflection of the future of the Federation of Planets. Have the Enterprise and a Kirk descendent as the focal points for the series would be an excellent not to franchise history. And setting it in the future would be fine to carry the story forward instead of dwelling in the past. Would be interested to see why the Klingons are hostile again, for example. Too bad this will never be. And for those who think this is too fan-fictiony -- hey, sometimes fan fiction is greater than the official Star Drek we've had to endure over the decades.
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Test
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So I can't put things in quotes?
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