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Confirmed! The Man of Steel will kneel before Michael Shannon!

Published at: April 10, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST by quint

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. We knew Michael Shannon was one of the top choices to play the villain in Zack Snyder's Superman movie, also now confirmed to be titled The Man of Steel.

Now we know, thanks to announcement from WB and Legendary Pictures, that he did nab the part, will be playing General Zod and we can all look forward to this movie a hundred times more than we might have been before... and by "we" I mean me, of course. I hope you guys are cool enough to be doing Blues Brothers like Power of God acrobatics at the thought of Shannon playing Zod with all the zeal and intensity that he can muster.

 

 

He's got some mighty big shoes to fill as Terence Stamp is mighty iconic in the role, but I can't think of anyone better for the role... even if I was kinda secretly hoping we'd hear Michael Shannon was playing Bizarro. heh.

Thoughts?

 

 

PS Congrats to Slashfilm for first reporting with certainty that Zod was the villain in the Snyder flick!

-Quint
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  • April 10, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    First

    by Epsilon

  • April 10, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    That's my first ever first

    by Epsilon

    But only because I have a life.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Awesome!!!

    by spiderinside

    His creepy bug-eyed intensity will be perfect for Zod. Now we just need Snyder to get over his Sucker-Punch slump and knock it outta the park. Excelsior!!!

  • April 10, 2011, 4:09 p.m. CST

    he would have made a better Lex

    by Stifler's Mom

    good actor, though

  • April 10, 2011, 4:13 p.m. CST

    The guy has been hanging around for a while

    by psSalieri

    Hopefully this makes him a little more mainstream.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Awesome casting

    by dr_buggerlugs

    No 'superstar baggage' and some serious acting chops - just watch him perform some godly drowning in Boardwalk Empire and tell me he can't hit this one out of the park with pure, unadulterated righteous zeal...

  • April 10, 2011, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Why'd you put up a photo of Holt McCallany?

    by Julius Dithers

    J/K. Good choice. Although your headline suggests a terrible mental picture.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    I like Shannon, but Zod?

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    REALLY? Fucking Zod. Judging by Snyder's track record we'd be better off buying Superman II and watching it at home. Zod? How depressing. Thirty years and they're using the same villains.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    WENTWORTH MILLER IS CRYING RIGHT NOW

    by Meadowe

    I have a tv guide with him pushing for the role...this was of course when his fellow homosexual bryan singer was at the helm....anyway I thought Wentworth Miller would've been a cool Zod.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    This could work, but this looks like a rehash of Superman 2

    by tommyleespenis

    If Superman Returns was a remake/homage to superman 1 then this is a remake/homage to Superman 2

  • April 10, 2011, 4:16 p.m. CST

    He looks like the spawn of some inbred hillbilly incest

    by TresEquis

    Not sure how this is going to work. I don't see that sort of look/niche lending itself to being an intergalactic general, but we'll see

  • April 10, 2011, 4:17 p.m. CST

    The sequel to this movie will have a black comedian

    by tommyleespenis

    on the cover of the DVD being rescued by Superman

  • April 10, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Another role I wish Viggo took...

    by Lucky13

    But a solid choice nonetheless.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Pass

    by -Halfscan-

    So much for wanting to distance themselves from the previous Superman flicks. <p> My interest has waned on this from they announced Snyder as director, but now that it's confirmed they are just rehashing the first films as well I just can't be bothered with the project anymore.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST

    This is what happens to anyone who questions this casting..

    by TaisonX

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvFldA9E_9A

  • April 10, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Enough with fucking Zod and Luthor

    by Crooooooow

    Superman does have more than 2 villians.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Born to be a Superhero Villain

    by Flummage

    He's a fine character actor, and I look forward to non-mainstream adventures more than most, but from the day he was ejected at high velocity from his mother's vagina, like a greased water melon from a straw, he was born to be an operatic, Zod-esque cinematic antagonist. Once those peepers were placed in that noggin with that amount of talent,it was as foretold as the fate of Kal-El himself. Twelve months of kneeling is going to be bad for my posture.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Zod? Again?

    by buggerbugger

    Fuck this movie with a kryptonite cock.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Even SMALLVILLE tried to do Brainiac and Bizarro!

    by RedEgiraahgnal

    But the movies are just recycling the known villains? I guess the next Superman movie will have Ross Webster.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    so its superman part 1 and part 2 mashed together=reboot.

    by vulturess

    seen it already. not grabbin my $.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    So a remake of Superman II ???

    by Tom

    Superman Returns was nearly a remake of Superman and now Man of Steel looks like a remake of Superman II?! Sorry, I'm really not looking forward to that. I'm mean seriously- Bizzaro, Brainiac, Mongul, Maxiam, Toyman, Terra-Man, Atomic Skull, Black Rock, Metallo, Silver Banshee, Parasite, Satanus- anyone but the frick'n Phantom Zone villains again!

  • April 10, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    What a waste...

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    And completely predictable. Of course it was going to be Zod! Of course! A shame they went with the easy choice.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Smallville didn't TRY to do Brainiac and Bizarro

    by IndyCollector

    It featured them. Along with Toyman, Darkseid, Mr. Mxyzptlk and Metallo.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Boring

    by Dark_Equalizer

    I wager another fail comming up. I cannot understand why they Cannot get Superman right anymore. Re write please, this time with a worthy Villian

  • April 10, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Snyder's the weak link.

    by BradZuhl

    Nolan producing, Goyer scripting, great cast. If only they had someone else directing this.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Good choice

    by damned-dirty-ape

    But i am severely dissappointed in the choice of villain. I have faith that it will be a good film but i really think there should have been a different different nemesis to one we've seen before to make it a true fresh start. This whole project seems to have been off kilter from the start.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Best actor for control-freak psycho characters

    by kafka07

    And I mean that as a compliment. :)

  • Balls.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:37 p.m. CST

    In defense of why they keep using Zod and Luthor as villains...

    by brocknroll

    To those who keep hating the idea that they keep using Zod or Luthor as Superman villains are probably not true Superman fans as you guys claim. I can understand why they are using General Zod, because he knows Superman more than anybody. General Zod was the only Superman villain who knows Jor-El very well. It makes a lot of sense to use Zod again to get more insight out of Superman. It's pretty clear that Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan, don't care about the other villains, it's about what's "right" for the story. I'm sure they can use other villains with no problem, but Zod is an important villain for Superman. Zod knows Superman's past, he knows his father and his family, where he came from. From the looks of things I don't think this is going to be a remake of Superman II at all. If the storyline is "Why Superman?", might as well use Zod. Using Zod would explain why Superman happened. Just my 2cents.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:41 p.m. CST

    every sunday we get a new casting announcment

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    i'm assuming thats a planed thing on WB's part

  • April 10, 2011, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Oh, and I hope they go the Batman Begins route with Luthor.

    by Mitch

    Perhaps have a behind the back shot of Lex's bald head reading the Daily Planet at the end of the flick or something along those line. To quote Mickey in the Brisk Ice Tea commercials, save it for the sequel.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:42 p.m. CST

    thoughts...

    by TDH1138

    OK... I like the casting, but I would have preferred him to be Lex. Zod, a great villain choice, but I would rather have seen Brainiac. There's nothing wrong with a reboot and use of the old series Villains. I recall Nolan early on saying he wasn't going to use the Joker, but he turned around and did... successfully I might add. I think Snyder's problem is that with other people's material, he can do something. I enjoyed Sucker Punch but for the eye candy. I loved WATCHMEN, changes and all. 300 was well done and maybe in 10-15 years, we'll get a Nolan Produced Snyder Dark Knight Returns using an older Bale. I trust Nolan to stand over Snyder and putting things on track. I can live with Zod and I think Luthor has to come into play (Modern Luthor, not the Real Estate junkie bullshit). Brainiac and Lex in the sequel and in the 3rd film, give me Doomsday in a 2 part series released Christmas and Summer.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Michael Shannon has serious acting chops

    by Sometimes_My_Arms_Bend_Back

    This is only good news for this production. Forget which character he's playing, whoever it is he'll knock it out of the park! Can't believe some people here haven't heard of him already! Ok he's been pretty much in supporting roles thus far but he's one of the most intense actors currently working. He was by far the best thing in Revolutionary Road. Check out Bug & My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done, The Runaways and Boardwalk Empire if you need more proof.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST

    I hate this.

    by Batguy

    Superman has a pretty cool selection of villains. I don't get the Zod thing. I was shocked at the Amy Adams casting, only because I don't see any sign of Lois in her. Now a Zod retread. It had better be flipping brilliant.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST

    How does Zod know Superman?

    by IndyCollector

    If you go by Superman II he even asks, "Who is this SUPERMAN?!" He knows him as the son of Jor-El. That's it. He doesn't care that he's Superman or Clark Kent. He only cares that Kal-El is the son of someone who he believes wronged him and therefore he must pay.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Warner Bros. would never use Brainiac...

    by brocknroll

    The Brainiac character was originally written for the "Superman III" script but Warner Bros. forced it out and the villain was turned into a computer instead. Warner Bros. never liked the Brainiac character 'cause he was never used for the newer films. I don't think they will ever use Brainiac. Yes, Superman has a wide variety of villains, but I think the new film will bomb if they use the lesser known villains. Think about it.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Things that happened in Superman 2 that won't...

    by billydeewilliams

    Happen in this one. 1. Superman will not rip the S of his chest and throw it. 2. Superman will not give up his powers to be with Lois 3.Superman will not flip a crystal upside down, tricking Zod and Co. to lose their powers. 4. Clark Kent will not get beat up in a bar only to return and beat the bully up. it will NOT be a remake of Superman 2...some of you idiots just WANT to hate this movie

  • April 10, 2011, 4:55 p.m. CST

    How do you know the movie will bomb with lesser known villains?

    by IndyCollector

    Batman Begins used Ra's Al Ghul and Scarecrow. Hardly name recognition villains among non-comic readers like the Joker, Penguin and Catwoman. That movie didn't bomb.

  • Because Goyer is absolute scum.

  • This actor looks evil (boardwalk) but he also holds no charisma. Bad choice to involve a villain bad choice for a villain and bad choice for he who will play villain. I say start with a great film and build a concrete foundation and then introduce Darkseid (film 2). How do you introduce Superman and Zod all in 1 movie and do it beautifully with story? You cant, thats how.

  • April 10, 2011, 5 p.m. CST

    The next one will be titled "The Man of Steel Rises"

    by IndyCollector

    And co-star Tyler Perry as Gus Gorman.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:01 p.m. CST

    NOT A REAL FAN OF MICHAEL SHANNON

    by BringingSexyBack

    But I have complete faith in Snyder. If he thinks Shannon will be great, who the fuck am I to question his judgment?

  • April 10, 2011, 5:01 p.m. CST

    What is this Nolan producing the Superman reboot shit??

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Suckers,(and I don't mean SuckerPunch) WB have tricked half the masses I see. Nolan aint producing jacked! This Superman reboot is all WB! Nolan was "hired" in Name Only to conned the masses into supporting this project to get spillage from the Batman films! Nice move on WB part, IMO. Besides, Nolan won't be standing watch over Zack as he got his hands full producing and directing his final Batman film! The ones watching Nolan will be WB who probably scared as fuck since SuckerPunch bomb!

  • April 10, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST

    great choice, awesome choice

    by Smack_Teddy

    i respectfully utterly disagree that the guy has no charisma. Lets just not talk about Sucker Punch...

  • April 10, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST

    I must say, a very interesting choice!

    by Troy McNamara

    I mean, Michael Shannon looks strikingly similar to Terence Stamp even though it would've been more amazing if we had Viggo Mortensen play Zod! Still, not a bad choice nevertheless! Christopher Nolan has some real balls with these casting decisions for the movie and yes I said only Nolan because anyone who says that Snyder is having a say in the casting decisions here is just blinded by Snyder fanboyism!

  • April 10, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    So everyone just HAS to follow Donner!

    by Professor_Monster

    Y'know, Zod was not all that big a player in the comics back when it was decided to choose Phantom Zone villains as the bad guys for Superman 2. Zod would show up with less frequency than alternate Supermen or even a giant gorilla. If they do use Zod in this movie it only proves that Donner's shadow and the decisions he and Mank made are ever present as they were for Brian Singer.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Ugh, missed opportunity! Shannon just reeks of Metallo...

    by Kal

    But I would've personally preferred a team-up of Gus Gorman and Titano. @TheRealSupes

  • April 10, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Michael Shannon is the best character actor working these days

    by lv_426

    While this is seriously good news, it also makes me realize that I have to wait quite a while longer for Boardwalk Empire's second season.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    zzzzz

    by Chairman_Kaga

    Zod again?

  • April 10, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Re: WENTWORTH MILLER IS CRYING RIGHT NOW

    by Tigger Tales

    hahaha I actually read that copy of TV Guide... that was what, 2006?

  • April 10, 2011, 5:21 p.m. CST

    So there just doing what Singer was going to do anyway..

    by MST3KPIMP

    wtf.. if theyre going the Zod route you know singer would have delivered the goods as he would have outdone himself to apease the complainers. I actually love SR so its pretty funny to see them following Singer's outline.. Reminds me when they booted Donner from the sequel back in the day.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    I Was Hoping They Wouldnt

    by Acquanetta

  • April 10, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Zod, Sucker Punch, and Nolan

    by THX1968

    Christopher Nolan is my only hope for this film. Sucker Punch sucked ass, just like 300 did (so totally not a fan of 300). Watchmen was ok when it needed to be totally awesome. And now this... Zod rules as a bad guy, no doubt. However, he's been done, and done very, very well by Stamp. Lex Luthor has been done well twice now. Impeccably by Hackman, and admirably by Kevin Spacey. Has Parasite been done yet? How about Brainiac? Bizarro? No, no , and no. Singer fucked up by overly rehashing the classics. There is so much Superman material out there, and they go back to Zod. Looking forward to this less and less.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    I Was Hoping They Wouldn't Do Something New

    by Acquanetta

    Much better to remake/retread/reboot.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Re: theindycollector

    by brocknroll

    "If you go by Superman II he even asks, "Who is this SUPERMAN?!" He knows him as the son of Jor-El. That's it. He doesn't care that he's Superman or Clark Kent. He only cares that Kal-El is the son of someone who he believes wronged him and therefore he must pay." - Zod knew Superman as a baby, aka, Kal-El. When Kal-El grew up to be a man, Zod didn't know that Superman was Kal-El at first. Zod found out who he really was by none other than Lex Luthor who gave him the info. That's when Zod went into a rage and went against Superman. Zod never wanted to kill Superman, he just wanted to get rid of his powers and have Superman join him. The reason I think this won't be a remake of "Superman II" because I think this new film will reveal more about Zod's past on Krypton that we all didn't know about. Everyone in these talkbacks are accusing Snyder of ripping off Donner's "Superman", but Snyder said many times that this will be a different Superman movie. He said many times it will not be adapted from anything and he even said this film will make you feel like there are no other Superman films. Of course, idiots keep accusing Zack of making this movie the same as the others.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST

    billydeewilliams

    by Batguy

    I don't want to hate this movie. I just don't see a point in revisiting well-documented villains when there is an opportunity to tell a story that has NO chance of being compared to the old movies. Incidentally, I'm not an idiot. How about you watch where you hurl those insults?

  • April 10, 2011, 5:37 p.m. CST

    brocknroll

    by Batguy

    ALL THAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T SEE WHY THE POWERS THAT BE WOULD OPT FOR A SLIGHTLY FAMILIAR VILLAIN OVER AN UNKNOWN. Just so we're clear.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Lex Luthor is Zod's Secret Identity

    by DieGlazerDie

    Arf!

  • April 10, 2011, 5:43 p.m. CST

    How using lesser known villains for Superman would bomb...

    by brocknroll

    Guys, you have to take a good look at the older movies to understand what I'm talking about. "Superman III" and "Superman IV: the Quest For Peace" were failures, big time. Why? Because "Superman III" didn't have Lex Luthor, they used Ross Webster as the main villain instead, the film was a flop. "Superman IV: The Quest For Peace", they ended up bringing Luthor back hoping the film will be a success, so they added a new villain, Nuclear Man. Guess what? "Superman IV" was a flop. If they used Brainiac, Dark Seid or Doomsday for the new movie, Zack Snyder's film probably would have flopped. So using General Zod is a smart move, in my opinion.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Regarding Nolan's involvement... And why a reboot...

    by TDH1138

    Nolan co-wrote the story and is producing. No one should tell you different because it's false. The original Superman film was great but it wasn't perfect. Superman II (The Donner Cut) was like watching Superman II with the Non-Sex scenes from a Porno edited in. It wasn't all it was cracked up to be. Donner's not perfect. Superman Returns was visually cool but it did two things... 1. It showed Superman was nothing more then a stalker and that he knocked up Lois (NOT smart, Singer) 2. that Superman needed a reboot... BADLY. Not a sequel to a 20 plus year old series, but a full on reboot. WB in 1978-1980 is a different ballgame from WB 2011... I foresee Brainiac as a future Villain.

  • April 10, 2011, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Aww, shit. Zod? Fuck this.

    by hank henshaw

    And seriously, couldn't they just call this movie "Superman: The Man of Steel"?

  • April 10, 2011, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Those villains were terribly written (and terrible)

    by Batguy

    Besides, comparing the old Superman movies to this situation, especially III and IV, is irrelevant. Superman III was badly directed...it was played as a daffy comedy...and Superman IV was low-budget trash, unfortunately.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:03 p.m. CST

    should have been bizzarro

    by zom-bot.com

    ...and that's all i am going to say in this talkback about it. he should have been a tragic hero/villain in Bizzarro. i'm not going to care about anything else regarding this flick. i thought zach was going to bring some strange fresh balls to the franchise, but Zod has to be one of the lamest superman villains, at least IMO, and the disco-fabulous Zod and gang were lame villains in the first run, even with Stamp being a great actor. this is just a step backward to ever getting superman into that galactic scale we all want (and the series needs) so fucking badly.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:03 p.m. CST

    I actually liked Superman III but hated IV

    by brocknroll

    I didn't find anything wrong with Superman III, I thought adding the comedic material was well done, 'cause the Superman stories does have some humor in the comics. I liked the Richard Pryor character, plus the best scene in the whole film was the Superman vs. Clark Kent fight scene at the junk yard. They should have left the evil Superman as the villain for "Superman III", in my opinion. I do agree with "Superman IV" was garbage.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Fuckin'... goddammit.

    by AidanJames

    I was hoping I'd be able to ignore Snyder's next piece of flaming-shit-in-slow-mo. Had to fucking cast someone good. Shit.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST

    The Man of Retread

    by darthSaul666

    Really? Zod? At least they picked an Actor I like to play him. I'm really on the fence for this flick now.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Guys, I continued to be baffled by you...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...Luthor is the overused one. Zod, a physical equal and challenge to Superman, has been used precisely once (and no, the cameo in Supes I doesn't count). And most of the villains mentioned here are terrible ideas. C'mon, guys, Terra-Man? The Silver Banshee? Really? Even the Parasite and Metallo are essentially one-note villains, and the maximally overrated Doomsday has all the personality of Hoover Dam. Darkseid is _too_ powerful a villain; one Omega Beam, and it's over. (Anyway, he's only incidentally and occasionally a Superman villain; what he needs to be is the lynchpin of a New Gods movie. He and his rich background are practically being thrown away as a bad guy to Kal-El.) The other main contenders are Mongul and Brainiac, and I'd love to see both of them. But Zod ties into Superman's background in a way none of the others do, unless you go for the animated series retrofit of Brainiac, or he has Kandor in a bottle; and in an origin movie, a connection to Kal's past is appropriate. Complaining that he's been used once before, or that he inevitably reminds people of the Donner film are charges that you could have brought against Nolan's decision to use the Joker, who'd been used by Burton--and those charges would have turned out to be pretty pointless, wouldn't they? Snyder's no Nolan, to be sure, but that's a whole other issue. (And just to mention a possibility for a later movie, how about the Superman Revenge Squad? The worst scum of a hundred worlds, each armed with technology able to kill Superman, each thirsting for payback... potentially exciting, no? You'd have to have a more mature Supes who's seen plenty of offworld action, but that shouldn't be a problem after 2 or 3 movies. Cary Bates once did a storyline in which Superman has to disguise himself and infiltrate the group, far from Earth with no help possible. It may have been the ballsiest thing he's ever done in the comics; I know I'd pay to see that in a movie.)

  • April 10, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    If you need a character to explain Superman in the flick

    by darthSaul666

    Bring in Dr Emil Hamilton.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Or a Kryptonian Character to explain Superman

    by darthSaul666

    Bring in the Eradicator! But I bet that won't happen.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    So instead of making everyone kneel before him...

    by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS

    He's going to baptize them to death?

  • April 10, 2011, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Fools.

    by Aaron

    To those people who say, "Superman has such a great rogue's gallery to choose from," stuff it. Stop deluding yourselves. Embrace anti-life and be whole. Superman's rogue's gallery is straight TERRIBLE. Toyman? Parasite? Atomic Skull? stop, just stop. Here, in no order, are his only good villains: Lex Brainiac Doomsday Darkseid Zod Aaaaaaaaaaand that's it. Metallo just barely gets a pass, but other than that, his villains bite. Doomsday COULD'VE been an all-time great if they had left well enough alone after HUNTER / PREY and let him die at the end of time. Then they brought him back so many times... blech.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    It doesn't matter how good the actors are

    by inkingeekX

    If they're not the right fit for the role. Everybody that's been cast so far is a fine actor-and all completely wrong for their roles. Want a great example? Eric Bana is a terrific actor, but he was completely miscast as Bruce Banner-he just didn't fit. As for me, I'm heartbroken because I love Superman so much and was so excited-then my interest got sick with thR announcement of Cavill and has been dying a little more with each announcement. By the time they tell us that Justin Timberlake is Jimmy Olsen, my excitement, nay, interest in this movie will be dead.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:38 p.m. CST

    It's may not be the movie we want but it will be the movie we get...

    by EastcoastAvenger

    I'm sure it will have some exciting moments and some surprising depth to it as places. I too was hoping for something completely new for Man of tomorrow. I will see the Snyder flick and hope for the best because I want the bad ass Superman movie I've been dying to see for the last 20 years already damn it!

  • April 10, 2011, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Sigh! Zod?

    by glodene

    Aw c'mon, why couldn't they shoot for the moon and do a Supes vs. Darkseid ? Why are these assholes so beholdin' to those corny-ass 70's Christopher Reeves era bullshit. Let it go! - Sides, lets' be honest, Donner's Superman has not aged very well.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:42 p.m. CST

    ALSO, DONNER CUT (a fart)

    by Aaron

    SUPERMAN II Donner Cut is laughably awful. And I am a nearly thirty-year old man who still tears up at the helicopter catching scene in the first movie. SR was better when it was just a trailer. What else... I love Superman: the Quest For Peace. Love me some Nuclear Man. Nostalgia? Probably.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:45 p.m. CST

    I liked him in The Runaways

    by rev_skarekroe

    Still, if they insisted on using Zod as the villain I was hoping for Viggo Mortensen.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:49 p.m. CST

    The progression of villains in the SUPERMAN movies:

    by ROBRAM89

    Luthor, Zod, nobody important, nobody important, Luthor, Zod. Fucking wonderful.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:49 p.m. CST

    zurenarrh, you forgot Mongul as a great Superman villain

    by The Krypton Kid

  • ...That's why it's makes you all look like a bunch of assholes who do nothing but hate on everything. Just wait until they make a trailer for the new "Superman" movie, then you can make your opinion. I'm sure everyone will be happy with the trailer, just give them a chance. I thought "Watchmen" was a phenomenal film, loved it.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Zod?(Facepalm) Just hire Richard Donner for the reboot then...

    by Thanos0145

    since WB can't get away from his Superman movies. SuckerBOMB...now SuperBOMB! WB better be really nervous with Snyder directing this. Chris Nolan has stated that he's going to have nothing to do with this Superman reboot once it starts filming. Be very afraid WB!

  • This one a$$hole was talking up a storm about the teaser (the one with the Kent mailbox in the beginning) and how great it was going to be. When I saw that teaser I was surprised because I thought it would be the main march, not the krypton one. Although it was a coo' little preview, I never brought into Routh as Supes on a physical level. He did look incredibly buff in the making of doc for sr, but swingerman prolly told him to slim down. Anyway, I thought personally sr WOULD HAVE been good if it wasn't too derivative of Superman 78 or whatever year it came out.

  • April 10, 2011, 6:57 p.m. CST

    brocknroll

    by inkingeekX

    first-watchmen WAS great Second-why? It's a Snyder movie, the trailer will be filled with slow motion front kicks to doors, stomachs, etc, set to whatever song is popular by whatever band. Christ-even the owl movie had his trademark, "slo mo front kick" seriously-watch any Snyder film trailer after Dawn of the dead and you'll see at least two

  • April 10, 2011, 7 p.m. CST

    THIS GUY + THE DIRECTOR OF SUCKERPUNCH=AWESOMENESS!!! RIGHT?

    by Meadowe

    Just screwin' around. Seriously, maybe in the new one they can have the kid that played Jason White (aka Superman Jr.) being saved by Cavill, and he tells Superman that he wants him to come home, because their dad isn't supposed to be with them but he keeps dropping in unexpectedly, looking through the windows, and sneaking into his bedroom making highly derivative speeches to him when he thinks he's asleep when in actuality he's wide awake with fear.

  • April 10, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Chill out.

    by Raggles Wimpole

    Do you people actively root for a movie to fail? I mean, do you drive by a nursing home everyday hoping it will burn to the ground? Wanting a movie to bomb before it is even released says more about you than it does the film. Or are you just a lonely, bitter, geeky recluse living in their parent's basement waiting for the chance to pounce on something you love because someone else has a different idea of what it should look like?

  • April 10, 2011, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Larry Knowles is happy!

    by Larry Knowles

    I've never seen anything Michael Shannon has been in (except Groundhog Day ... he was excellent in that). But ZOD is the perfect villain for Superman! Hopefully, an Ursa announcement will be coming soon! Also, Harry, please call me.

  • April 10, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Everything about this movie is a bad idea...

    by amnesiac108

    Superman has the potential to be a giant space epic ala GL but, you know, good. Instead, Snyder has been very adament that this is going to be his most "realistic" film, and Nolan's involvment says that's probably going to be true. "Batman Begins" and the start of the realism movement in comic book movies will be almost a decade old by the time this movie is released, with more interesting and surreal films ("Green Lanter", "Thor", "Avengers") very old news by then. The summer movie landscape will be different. Taking a realistic approach to Supes, especially with a director like Snyder, will prove to be one of the worst moves in modern WB history. Plus, Shannon as Bizarro?! Now, THAT'S a movie!

  • April 10, 2011, 7:13 p.m. CST

    colossalgoatfuck69

    by inkingeekX

    ordinarily, I'd be inclined to agree with you. "wait for the trailer" I'd say. Or, "give it a chance!" the problem here is that the fantastic talent they have here just doesn't seem to fit the characters-and that's fine, maybe I'll be wrong. But the biggest issue is that Snyder is a slightly better Uwe Boll. For an idea of how a geek like me feels( who incidentally lives 2,000 miles away from his parents' basement lol)try to imagine someone like Uwe Boll directing Shakespeare-doesn't matter what he gets right, overall, you just have a feeling he's still going to get it wrong. I hope not-I hope it's fantastic, Christ knows I want it to be, but the high hopes I had are crumbling, is all I'm saying. Apologies for being so long winded...

  • April 10, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    This is no fantasy...

    by Arafel

    “This is no fantasy - no careless product of wild imagination- no, my friends. These indictments that I have brought to you today, specific charges herein against the individuals…their acts of treason, their ultimate aim of sedition…these are matters of undeniable fact. I ask you now to pronounce judgment on those accused.” Jor-El, Superman (1978)

  • April 10, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST

    bringingsexyback

    by Billy_D_Williams

    "But I have complete faith in Snyder. If he thinks Shannon will be great, who the fuck am I to question his judgment?" lmfao...seriously? did you see Sucker Punch? and that hamfisted, on the nose turd/live action storyboard called Watchmen? Snyder is a fucking hack and this movie will suck just like his last 2.

  • Jesus Fucking Christ, Chris Nolan only made greatest fucking comic book movie of all fucking time! He knows what he is talking about! He is the executive producer, and Zack Synder works for him! Thats how I

  • Jesus Fucking Christ, Chris Nolan only made greatest fucking comic book movie of all fucking time! He knows what he is talking about! He is the executive producer, and Zack Synder works for him! Thats how I know it won't be a shitfest like Sucker Punch! Fuck yes Superman needed a reboot, and it needs to be realistic so everyone, and not just pathetic comic book nerds like you Amnesia108, will actually go buy a ticket to see this movie!

  • April 10, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    brocknroll

    by Billy_D_Williams

    Superman 3 and 4 bombed because they were terrible, god awful movies, not because they didn't feature Luthor, idiot. Did you see those films? they sucked regardless of the villains...Superman has plenty of awesome villains that would work in a great story.

  • April 10, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Brainiac is a lessor villain?!

    by Tom

    Historically speaking, he's been a way bigger threat to Superman than Zod. Second how does Zod 'know' Superman? He knows his dad- a dad who never even raised him. Zod knows Krypton, not Superman. Lastly, I don't think anyone is saying Zod is a bad villain, just that as the movies go, all we get is Luthor and Zod, and it's getting dull. Especially as a one two punch- just like last time.

  • April 10, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Re: Arafel

    by amnesiac108

    Hey man, I want this to work out, too. But, Nolan as a Producer does not guarantee anything. And anyways, the point of my comment was that "realistic" comic book movies are already starting to be viewed as a tired and uninspired approach to the material. How are they going to look 2-3 years from now when this finally makes it to theaters? With a character like Superman and a director like Snyder, who seems to have the uncanny ability to get millions of dollars from major studios to put a lot of fucked up shit on the screen, taking a realistic approach seems like a complete misstep and missed opportunity. Or, to put it in a way you may understand: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • April 10, 2011, 7:32 p.m. CST

    amnesiac108....this is going to Snyder's most realistic film???

    by Billy_D_Williams

    do they know who Superman is? look at his suit for fuck sake...there is nothing even remotely realistic about Superman, and to approach it like Batman (who is at least plausible) is a big fucking mistake and the reason this movie WILL be terrible...i mean seriously? what good director would think approaching Superman as realistic is a good idea???

  • April 10, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Reboot?

    by hulkiest

    I'm in agreement with those who question the point of all this. If they were just going to use General Zod as the villain, why'd they recast Superman? Brandon Routh was totally fine. And sure, some of the more defensive types can say we're being haters and negative without seeing a single frame of the finished film, but come on! We have another movie with a villain that we've already seen in a previous movie? Some reboot! Someone up there commented about how boring Superman's other villains are compared to Zod and Luthor, well, sure, but all it takes is a clever director to get you involved in the suspense and the action and even Doomsday could be cool. Especially if it's like Doomsday, end of the world stuff with Superman tying to stop him from entering Metropolis. (Though I never get why in these cartoons Superman and co. have no problem fighting in the center of the city. Wouldn't he be all, "Better fly up into Space where I can keep people safe." Why didn't he do that in the Death of Superman Comic." I MUST Protect Lois! Let's move this fight to the moon!" No? Okay, never mind, let's demolish half of the U.S.!" Anyway, I never even heard of Metallo until I watched Superman and Batman Public Enemies and thought he'd be cool in a live action film. Basically a Kryptonian T-1000. And that was pretty cool when Metallo shot Supes with a Kryptonite bullet. (Again, why can't Luthor and others think of that move after all this time? So content with simply putting it around his neck or stabbing him with it. Shoot him in the heart with a bullet you morons! ) Ah, never mind. Analyzing the logic of Superman reminds me that I'm supposed to be a grown up with better thing to do. Still, the new movie sounds like it lacks passion and ambition.

  • April 10, 2011, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Yeah, going the Nolan "let's make it realistic" route...

    by NeoDevilbaneX

    ... is pretty silly for Superman. His approach is perfect for Batman and that mythos... it's cancer for something like Superman. I want to see a Superman movie where people gather in the streets, looking up into the sky and shouting, "Is that a bird, is it a plane?!" To the response, "No, you fucking moron -- it's WARWORLD!" as shock troops invade Earth and Mongul takes center stage.

  • April 10, 2011, 7:55 p.m. CST

    But one more thing

    by hulkiest

    I find it hard to believe that Superman's equal will be the newlywed in Groundhog Day who yells, "Wrestle-mania!" (Hilarious bit but still...) Terence Stamp vs him? Aren't we supposed to take Zod sort of, you know...seriously?

  • April 10, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST

    I was hoping for a new bad guy

    by bohdi71

    Zod has been done before, couldn't they do brainiac or doomsday. The only plus is that supes will be fighting a real character as opposed to a CG one so it will be more engaging...

  • April 10, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    I'm satisfied

    by MapMan

    Zod is a good villain to start with on this reboot. He will be Kal-El's last link to Krypton and once he is dispatched Kal-El will truly be the last son of Krypton. I figure this movie will plant the seeds of Lex Luthor who will become the main focus of the next film (just like the Joker was setup in Batman Begins). I have a lot of faith in this project. Superman is my favorite hero and I think this will be the team to bring him back to the big screen in a befitting manner.

  • April 10, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    His character had the best arc in Boardwalk Empire...

    by Citizin_insane

    ...He impressed the hell out of me. Hopefully he'll give us a Zod that's half as interesting

  • April 10, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Shannon as Kim Fowley in The Runaways

    by krabklaw

    I just watched The Runaways again last night and Michael Shannon's role as their Svengali producer Kim Fowley is the most compelling aspect of that movie. He just projects such an unsettling vibe in everything I've seen him in he commands your attention. Zack Snyder made a great choice.

  • April 10, 2011, 8:17 p.m. CST

    How big of a role will Amy Adams have?

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Thats a major concern, IMO. This is supposed to be a Superman film but it always amazed me how he becomes a supporting character in his own movies! Adams is an Oscar nominated actress and I'm sure her agent didn't get her to signed on this film for a reduced role. I suspect she'll get as much or even more time than Superman which will AGAIN slow the Superman film down and make it all about Clark/Superman longing for Lois again! See this is the REAL REASON Superman films will never be EPIC! Every Superman have him moping about longing for Lois or Lana, essentially killing any real action that a Superman will bring!

  • April 10, 2011, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Don't know this guy, LOOKS like he should be Metallo

    by Drath

    I guess we'll see, but Stamp's Zod was iconic, and this guy seems like he won't live up to that. I'd rather they'd used the TAS Brianiac from Krypton or Bar-El and Lilo the insane Kryptonian astronauts.

  • April 10, 2011, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Wow, you people must hate TV..

    by LostCause

    What with all the bitching about using the same villain, how the fuck do you get through tv series with recurring characters.... Just because it has Zod in it doesn't mean its a copy of the old one. As much as I love the Donner supes, there's no requirement to follow it. All these fuckin elitists on here don't seem to realise they're a minority. And if you want a film made just for you, the budget is gonna be about $8 or whatever you pay for movies in the states. If you want a big budget film then it has to appeal to a wide range of people. People don't want to go see a movie when they're made to feel like a fuckin idiot by the pimply faced 40 year old virgin behind them saying "GOD how can you not know who Solomon Grundy is!". Either say you're not interested and stop fuckin posting everytime there's more news, or fuckin wait till there's at leasta trailer for you to piss and moan about how shit it is and how you'll never pay money to see it... then be on here a week after it's come out and list all the shit things you thought about it on the 4th time you saw it. To paraphrase Kenny Powers, "USA, You're fuckin out!"

  • April 10, 2011, 8:32 p.m. CST

    One More Thing...

    by amnesiac108

    Personally, I think WB should wait a month and see how something like "Thor" will play in middle American before they finalize anything for "Man Of Steel". If the general public can accept the high fantasy that seems to make up a good chunk of "Thor", who is at best a second-teer character to most, then a high fantasy film based on a character everyone is familiar with can work (and probably beat it in box office)

  • April 10, 2011, 8:33 p.m. CST

    TV and movies are different media, lostcause!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    How do you even compare the two?

  • April 10, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Enough about Zod!!! What about Zooey?!?

    by wackybantha

    Where does ZOOEY fit into all this?!? ZOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • April 10, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST

    How do you compare the two...

    by LostCause

    Using the same stick used to measure the identical features of a movie made near 30 years ago and one being made today with the same characters and different everything else. <br> That's how it works right?

  • April 10, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST

    No its more than that.

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Movies and tv have different budgets, time constrints, directors, writers, and arcs. So many things are different, lostcause. Its hard to compare the two even to the the smallest details.

  • April 10, 2011, 8:54 p.m. CST

    After Sucker Punch...

    by fathergreedosarducci

    ...I'm gonna have a hard time getting psyched up about a Zack Snyder anything, much less a Zack Snyder Superman movie. I'm in the vocal minority that thought Watchmen was nothing short of brilliant-- the director's cut more so-- but Sucker Punch was pretty demoralizing. That said (as The Big Guy says), Shannon is an inspired bit of casting. I'd like to see Brainiac or (better yet) Darkseid as the big bad, putting all of Superman's super-powers to a real test. But WB is all about hitting the broad middle class of movie-goer, so the first movie, at least, has to strike at least a few familiar notes.

  • April 10, 2011, 8:55 p.m. CST

    You know who would make an awesome villan? Eradicator!

    by darthSaul666

    But forget acctually using acctual Kryptonian villan that wasn't an invetion of a sequel...... Brainiac would have been cool too.... Since Brainiac only destroyed Krypton... you know nothing too substantial to the canon...... I guess I may have to be content with the movie in my head.

  • April 10, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Will Superman lose his powers to knock up Lois again?

    by Thanos0145

    Van Wilder as Green Lantern, pants on Wonder Woman, and now a rehash of Donner's Superman yet again. Nice going Warner Bros.

  • April 10, 2011, 9:18 p.m. CST

    To all the people trashing us geeks

    by inkingeekX

    You want to know why we're allapprehensive about this? Because WB even said they don't have time to develop it and rewrite-that's why they hired Snyder-cuz he can give them a glossy product with no substance that will make them a ton of money before they Lise the rights to the franchise. So that's great news-they hired their last choice director to rush a shot product out that they can make money on. Hey, hire a couple of Oscar winners and nobody will know the difference, right? Wrong, Fuckers-we will know and we'll be sure to tell you.

  • April 10, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    And for the next movie... Nuclear Man!

    by Squeesheiro

    Why do they keep using the same villains? Where is Darkseid? Doomsday? Mongul? Why are they ignoring once more 30 years of evolution of the character of Superman?

  • April 10, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Holy shit, that IS Kim Fowley.

    by ROBRAM89

    As bored as I am of Zod that guy basically made that movie. That and the slow, steady simmer of lesbianism.

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  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    BILLY ZANE AS LUTHOR!!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

  • April 10, 2011, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Is he Luthor yet...?

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    'Cause my fingers are cramping up! :(

  • April 10, 2011, 10:14 p.m. CST

    So you guys are just hating because... Your life sucks?

    by Andrew Coleman

    Sorry but when villain debates were on this site most people wanted anything but Lex. You guys wanted a villain with super powers. They've done that. This film is going to set up sequels. To me the only two villain choices were Zod or Brianiac. Since both could be connected to Krypton. The casting choice already has been great. Snyder will hopefully get some guidance from the script and producers. You can not deny that his film will have a vision and the action will be extreme. Don't write that off because all you fucks bitched so much about Superman Returns with it's lack of action... Well maybe we should have supported that film better huh?

  • April 10, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Kneel Before Zod.

    by PTSDPete

  • April 10, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Kneel.

    by PTSDPete

  • April 10, 2011, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Will Smith as Zod

    by PTSDPete

    Who gets the shit beaten out of him. By the 'Walk/Don't Walk' signs.

  • April 10, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Boom, Bitches !

    by PTSDPete

  • April 10, 2011, 10:29 p.m. CST

    I wish I could be more optimistic about this but...

    by incaove

    It's 10:27 p.m. Sunday April 10, 2011. Mark my words: THIS MOVIE WILL BE AWFUL.

  • April 10, 2011, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Myphisdoom, we're hating cuz WB Sucker-Punched us fans once again!

    by axelfoley

    Seriously, man. Zod????? I grew up on the Christopher Reeve movies. Superman II is personally my favorite superheromovie, with Spider-Man 2 and The Dark Knight above it. Those three own not only own your life, they also are held in regard in some capacity. So I'm not "hating". Stop with that nonsense. Why not Metallo? Why not someone different someone not from old movies? You're an asshole by the way....oh Snyder too :)

  • April 10, 2011, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Again, WB and and Snyder can't eat my asshole

    by axelfoley

    Zod???? Really?

  • April 10, 2011, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Bradley Cooper as The Nuclear Man! Make it happen!

    by axelfoley

  • April 10, 2011, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Nick Cannon as Gus Gorman!

    by axelfoley

  • April 10, 2011, 10:34 p.m. CST

    The hot blond from the new Adam Sandler movie as Lorelei Ambrosia!!

    by axelfoley

  • April 10, 2011, 10:49 p.m. CST

    BREAKING NEWS: Elijah Wood to reprise role for Hobbit

    by Punisherthunder

    Wood to reprise his role in the Hobbit.

  • April 10, 2011, 10:53 p.m. CST

    myphdisdoom

    by inkingeekX

    its going to be awful because Goyer barely wrote a rough draft-leaving Snyder to fill in the blanks himself(something he's more than capable of judging by Sucker Punch reviews). As I said above-he's only directing because WB needed a director that can give them eye candy without much effort towards substance, lest they spend too much time on a STORY and lose the rights to the franchise before making a few million dollars. This is going to be a rushed, visually exciting, mentally retarded Superman film, with a few Oscar winners sprinkled in to give it "credibility". in all honesty, it'll probably make Superman Returns look like goddamn Ben Hur-not because the people involved are bad, but because they just don't give a shit

  • April 10, 2011, 11:08 p.m. CST

    SUPERMAN III Wasn't a Flop

    by Dursman2000

    To the poster who said it "flopped" -- That's revisionist history. It's one of the higher-grossing films of 1983. Even got a few good reviews from critics at the time. You may all hate it for various reasons (though I tend to like the "Evil Superman" bit myself, plus Annette O'Toole was way hotter than the pill-popping Margo Kidder at that time), but it definitely didn't "flop" financially. Now SUPERMAN IV -- that's a whole other matter...

  • April 10, 2011, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Yawn. Zod AGAIN? Boooooo-riiiing

    by Orbots Commander

    Shannon is great, but why are they re-hashing Superman II? Been there, done that. This flick was already on shaky ground, helmed by the guy who gave us Sucker Punch (awful, awful movie). Meh, at this point, why not just also throw in Lex Luthor and a cuh-raaazy real estate scheme? In contrast, I caught the animated All Star Superman the other day from Redbox, and THAT'S the way a Superman feature film should be done.

  • April 10, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Doesnt he look more like Bizarro?

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    Isn't it strange to take a character from the old movies when you're trying to restart/reboot and go more comic book?

  • April 10, 2011, 11:46 p.m. CST

    @carl xvi, no, they are not trying to "go more comic book" :-/

    by hank henshaw

    According to Snyder they are aiming for a more "realistic" Superman. I wouldn't believe Snyder, if it wasn't that Superman haters like Goyer and Nolan did the script. How long before they announce no cape, or blue/red/yellow uniform?

  • April 10, 2011, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Dolph Lungren as Non

    by kiwicanuck

    yeah, the idea of bringing zod on when there's such a strong rogue's gallery of villains (even a couple the general public has at least heard of) to choose from strikes me as lazy and uninteresting, at least on the surface. I hope things turn around, but i'm getting more and more disenchanted. a couple dollops of hope i have are that chris nolan was so excited by story idea that was originally pitched. i just fear things have changed since then, story-wise. the other is that michael shannon is a fantastic actor...but no amount of good acting can completely overcome tired ideas or a boring, predictable story.

  • April 10, 2011, 11:50 p.m. CST

    kat dennings as ursa

    by kiwicanuck

    i'm pretty sure my snake would burn to a crisp under the gaze of her sultry peepers, if you know what i mean. also, i want to see those baps of hers in leather.

  • April 10, 2011, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Ugh. Zod. Enough with the rehash shit.

    by BooBoosDaddy

    not looking forward to this after Sucker Punch sucked and this Zod crap. WB must be wringing their hands in nervous tension now... I am quite sure that Nolan isn't even involved in this soon to be trainwreck, Cavill and Amy Adams excluded.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Quit making excuses for Snyder's lazy choice

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    zurenarrh presented a good list of villains to choose from that are pretty well known. And guess what? Three out of the five listed have yet to be used in a live action Superman movie. What gives? Why do we have to keep seeing the same two? This will be the SIXTH movie, and we're still on fucking Zod?! And we all know Luthor will make a cameo in this one or be the star villain in the eventual sequel...

  • April 11, 2011, 12:03 a.m. CST

    "Realistic" Superman?

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    Let's start with his first well known power. The dude can fly. How much more unrealistic can you get? Fuck Snyder.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Bring back Jon Cryer...

    by Jeditemple

    And dig up Richard Pryor. Might as well rehash everything at this point.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:07 a.m. CST

    AHHHGGHHH!!! MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!!! ZOD AGAIN?!!! FUCCKK!!!!

    by bloodawn5

  • April 11, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Really why the fuck use Zod again

    by bloodawn5

    Im fucking tired, of watching Luthor and Zod, somebody please bring Brainiac, or someone else, I know they cant put Doomsady or Darkseid yet, but why the Fuck ZOD!!! FUCK!!!! IM REALLY PISSED OFF!!! A BUNCH OF GUYS HITTING EACH OTHER AGAIN!! IN EARTH!!! WHY CANT WE SEE OTHER VILLAINS AND PLANETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE!!!!

  • April 11, 2011, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Certainly like Michael Shannon.....But why Zod!?!?!?

    by darthSaul666

    I mean really didn't the last couple of interviews for this project was it not stated they would do something distanced from the other flicks? I know that someone was posting that Nolan used the Joker but no one cried retread for The Dark Knight. I would have cried retread if the Dark Knight had a parade scene with balloons filled with Smilex gas.... I would not cry retread of Lex Luthor if he ran his Criminal empire thought Lexcorp and didn't have another Real Estate scam... Basically I'm hoping for a flick that doesn't waste the opportunity of adapting some of the cooler aspects of the comics instead of the usual throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks..... As much as I like Superman 1, 2, and parts of 3, Those films have a lot of moments that are that... Superman Returns IMO was all throwing shit to see what sticks.... Zod makes me think we're in for some more retread... Though I am hoping to be surprised...

  • April 11, 2011, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Yeah having Warworld pay us a visit on film would be awesome!!

    by darthSaul666

  • April 11, 2011, 12:25 a.m. CST

    I'm of the same mind as some others- why not a new villain?

    by Kamaji

    This reminds me of the Orci/Kurtzman treatment of Nero in the 2009 Star Trek. Naturally, their fandom of 'Wrath of Khan' seems to be evident in how Nero seems to be caught in the shadow of Khan's diabolical designs to make one of our lead characters 'pay' something. Alot of people love Superman II, but one has to wonder if the series can move beyond Zod, or the always-in-service Lex Luthor.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:36 a.m. CST

    so that about seals it:

    by zom-bot.com

    there are maybe 2 talkbackers who are 'okay' with the idea of Zod. not emphatic about it, just 'okay with'. the rest of us, who were SO stoked to hear micael shannon's involvement, are now pretty much absolving themselves of the new film already. what does that tell you warner bros? quit listening to your fucking committees. even beyond AICN people are saying they want Brainiac or Bizarro or Parasite or...fuck- ANYONE but Zod. this is totally a reboot huh? i guess in terms of following the exact same sequence of villains as previous. jesus fuck.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST

    So what happens when a reboot fails at the box office?

    by Orion

    Not that I'm wishing failure on this movie. I'm curious.

  • This just lost all my interests, I'd prefer Singer took it back and just continued from Superman Returns with Brandon Routh rather than start again with a franchise that has no future with Lois already approaching the scrap heap!

  • April 11, 2011, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Lame.

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 11, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST

    I cant picture this guy kicking Superman's ass

    by Orion

  • April 11, 2011, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Frankie Muniz as Lenny Luthor! Tyler Perry as Otis (it's TIME)

    by axelfoley

    What a black guy can be Kingpin but not Otis? Fucking racists....... (Kidding)

  • April 11, 2011, 12:52 a.m. CST

    somebody just do a bizarro fan edit movie with this guy.

    by zom-bot.com

    cut up some of his ranting from BUG and other flicks and mix it with routh and then just past both heir heads onto some old classic boxing footage and let's enjoy it. gauranteed at least 200% better than another fucking ZOD flick. Is Shannon going to wear black glittery genie pants, plunging v-neck shoulder padded blouse and cumberbun in this too?

  • April 11, 2011, 1:19 a.m. CST

    re: not supes fans?!

    by s0l0m0ng

    Brainiac wasnt the homeworld computer on krypton? He didnt know Jor-El personally?! Parasite freakin absorbs memory as well as powers for Rao's sake! Cmon you need learn your history before you talk brother! Im not opposed to Zod in fact in the comics he's damn near one of the best. he's a GREAT villian but arent you tired of the same old thing! Snyders supes will be awesome no doubt but damn with so much to choose from why keep going back to the same old thing.

  • April 11, 2011, 1:26 a.m. CST

    AICN Whineback

    by Mojo-Wan

    Here's why your whining will fall on deaf ears: Amy Adams is, in my opinion, the most prototypical Lois Lane ever cast. Teri Hatcher captured sex appeal and spunk, so did Erica Durance, Margo Kidder was a tough girl with attitude and street smarts, and Amy Adams captures all of the above in one package. I see it, the studio sees it, and most Americans see it. Zod is a great villain, who most people never saw drinking tea with his pinky sticking out on Smallville like some of you guys who have convinced yourself that Tom Welling is a better actor than, say, a fried egg. Ask around outside of your nerd internet crew, most people will be excited by Zod. My question is only if it's too early for Zod in a reboot. However, I am as paranoid as anyone about Zack Snyder. Since his best work was taken from panel-to-panel adaptations, I'm concerned.

  • April 11, 2011, 1:30 a.m. CST

    LOLOL

    by filmstu2005

    you guys are bringing on the comic gold. And just so you know, I'm laughing at each and every last one of you. Your asses are literally shit-glued to the Superman films from the 1980s that it's giving me a fuckin' headache. Its 2011. 21st century. New era. New Superman. Get on board or jump on a rocket headed for Krypton.

  • April 11, 2011, 1:36 a.m. CST

    And for crying out loud

    by filmstu2005

    We saw Zod in ONE gotdamn movie. ONE fucking movie, ONE interpretation and from the fucking 80s, disco gear and all! And yet you're all acting like spoiled brats who've ben cursed to shit out spoiled milk for the rest of their pathetic lives. We can't even have a Zod for the 21st century? Its really that serious? I have never lied witness to so much bitching in my life. And from MEN at that. Good grief. Quit crossdressing and move the fuck on. When the superman moves comes out, then you can slip your panties back on. I'm sure they'll be lying on the bed waiting for you.

  • April 11, 2011, 2:01 a.m. CST

    filmstu...

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    You're right, it is 2011. The 21st century. New era. New Superman. Time for a NEW FUCKING VILLAIN already! And Zod was in more than one of the Supes movies...

  • April 11, 2011, 2:01 a.m. CST

    RE: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A REBOOT FAILS AT THE BOX OFFICE?

    by deano velvet

    In the case of Synders "Man Of Steel" I think the powers that be at Warner Bros will go and lick there wounds for a couple of years and maybe look at the fact they had a Superman series that was successful for ten years! Maybe move the smallville cast to the big screen! And if that fails you won't be seeing a Superman movie for a long long time!!

  • April 11, 2011, 2:25 a.m. CST

    I saw Michael Shannon in....

    by hallmitchell

    The Runaways. Very impressive performance.

  • ...what canon are you talking about? The _comics_ are canon, not the animated series. sOIOmOng, "Brainiac wasnt the homeworld computer on krypton? He didnt know Jor-El personally?!" No, and no. See above. Have you guys ever read the comics? Brainiac's connection to Krypton is that he's a android who shrank Kandor and kept it in a bottle. Just reestablished a couple of years ago in the Johns/Frank run. Now there's nothing requiring the movies to keep to be canonical; they often don't. But as long as you're going to bring the canon up, at least know what it is.

  • April 11, 2011, 2:38 a.m. CST

    kiss kiss bang bang good to know!

    by darthSaul666

    I'd like to see that in movie......

  • April 11, 2011, 2:47 a.m. CST

    filmstu2005, cry out loud your asshole, sir.....

    by axelfoley

    First off while I agree and commend your lecturing us on how we know nothing about how life works over this little gripe. Let's got over a few things, sir. First off this is Superman. It's refreshing that Superman's getting a revamp (again) in this world of American Idol, Gaga and Twilight. There's 38 year old men who like going to the movies too. For those of us that don't get into the latter, it's going to be a purported all out reason to get into having a nice grin on our faces in getting entertained again. That's what we were promised more or less with Singer-Superman I mean---Superman. When you come back from shooting nonstop in Sydney like Bryan "I'm doing you all a solid" Singer. And show footage from what you're doing Down Under, you kind of follow thru. In other words, all we got was a movie that should have been called "Richard Donner made a Superman movie and he got me singing and dancing!" The movie was a loveletter complete with homages and unfortunately no action, nothing new brought to the table. Supes may not have the best rogues gallery in comics (Spider-Man and Batman do) but there's quite the smorgasboard of fresh meats and cheeses to pick from. These include Mongul, Darkseid, Lobo, Bizarro, Parasite and Brainiac. Ever hear of those guys? Yeah, I read online that those dudes were in the comics and countless animated features shown and reran not only on youtube. As a 30 year old "old fart" I believe that I speak for many that Im tired of being patronized by WB. They OWE us a Superman movie that isn't the same o same o. They can't load the plate with the smorgasboard for once and feed us some new chow? Plus, Im really tired of anytime people getting fed up with Hollywood redundancy we're "bitching". Maybe if WB and Zack Snyder threw us a goddamn bone here. Is that ok??

  • What's with your Zod fetish?

  • April 11, 2011, 2:54 a.m. CST

    And while Doomsday is canon (*shudder*)...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...he's one of the worst villains ever. First off, he's a one-shot villain. All he's got going for him is that he killed Superman. Once Superman comes back and defeats him, he's totally anticlimactic. Worst case of villain decline in comics history, and it gets worse every time they bring him back. And creating a new villain to kill Superman (which was a cheap stunt in the first place, because you knew it would never be allowed to stand), a villain with no history or involvement with Superman, means his only claim to fame is that he killed Superman; and once you've undone that, he has nothing to recommend him. And as far as his other characteristics go, he's strong. That's it. He has no intellect, no personality, nothing. Mongul has the strength and is ten time more interesting a character. Ditto for Zod, or anyone from the Phantom Zone. Bane, a character I loathe equally, and for much the same reasons, at least had smarts and a personality. Not much, but more than Doomsday. So just what is it that makes so many of you drool over Doomsday? He gives Superman a physical challenge? So does a giant robot...or Titano...or more interestingly, Mongul or a Phantom Zone villain. So why not one of them? At least, they'd require an actor.

  • April 11, 2011, 3:12 a.m. CST

    I hope this is cos they're saving Brainiac for sequel.

    by L. Ron Bumquist

    If we get Krypto in this I might forgive them.

  • ...I recall general eagerness to see Nolan's take balanced with the conviction that Heath Ledger was no Jack Nicholson. In fact, I recall complaints that Burton killed off the Joker, and more recently, people cooking up ways to bring back the Joker in DKR, if only for one scene. So where does this "we've already seen him" stuff come from?" You saw him once, precisely the number of times you saw the Joker (unless you're counting the Adam West film). Stamp was iconic as Zod, but so was Nicholson as the Joker, and now, so is Ledger. I don't know anything about this actor, but a lot of people here think he's great at projecting menace, and no one's said he's a bad actor. And there's no reason you have to do Zod precisely the same way, anymore than Nolan's Joker had to be precisely the same as Burton's. I'd be thrilled to see Brainiac or Mongul, too, but I don't have a problem with Zod, while I do feel a little weary of Luthor. (But even that could change with the right actor and a different take, such as the businessman approach.) Zod doesn't have to be Donner revisited, just as Nolan wasn't Burton redux. (Now, if you lack confidence in Snyder, I understand completely...but that doesn't mean another director and actor can't do a great Zod, even if Snyder can't.)

  • April 11, 2011, 3:23 a.m. CST

    Michael Shannon is damn great actor

    by Sanyi

    I know this movie will be action-packed and visually striking and all but...I have doubts about Zack Snyder. And who is playing Superman? I can't imagine him as Superman. But Shannon is fuckin' great!!

  • April 11, 2011, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Zod? He looks like Non. Seriously.

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    And why Zod? Jaysis, I may only see another three Superman movies in my lifetime and we get fucking Zod again? Superman's been around for decades with mountains of storylines that could be adapted and villians we've never seen realized for the screen we get Zod again. Fuck.

  • April 11, 2011, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Errors...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...that should be "nothing requiring the movies to be canonical." And it should be "an android". And in my second post, that should be "villain decay", not "villain decline", since I'm quoting one of TVTropes's many useful terms. Serves me right for posting at 2 or 3 in the morning. Later, people.

  • April 11, 2011, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Handled right, Doomsday would be amazing...

    by UltimaRex

    But the operative words are "handled right". Meaning JLA2. Which will be a while.

  • April 11, 2011, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Oh, and darthsaul666, you're welcome...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...I, too, would love to see Brainiac and the bottle-city of Kandor. It's an idea just bursting with, to use Val Beasley's phrase, "built-in nifty appeal".

  • April 11, 2011, 3:44 a.m. CST

    kisskissbangbang, you just---you just don't get it do you...

    by axelfoley

    The Joker and General Zod are separate dynamics. They are not the same, or parallel. The Joker is THE Batman villain. Zod is not. Zod is a fixture of Richard Donner who had a hard on in using him in the late 70s. I like Dick Donner but why can't WB/Snyder think outside the box and take advantage of CGI with other alien threats--you know the ones we've seen in Superman features for 70 years? What are the studios telling us by not including these guys? It seems more ego on WB's part thinking they know what is right and they don't. We're being "whiny" because people get tired of redundancy and patronization after a while. That's called being human.

  • April 11, 2011, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Geez quint, what a fag.

    by robertplant

    You really thInk a new SUPERmaN movie is Going To be based on BizaRRo? Superman vs Uglier SuperMan. You are a bag of douche. Continue with your ___ douche job and ___ you, dork, Shannon will rule your small world. Again, ___ you.

  • April 11, 2011, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Wow, uninspiring

    by Volstaff

    I'm disapointed that they're making Zod the villain after saying that they wanted to ignore the previous movies and start fresh. Please for the love of the children we don't need to see superman's goddamn origin rehashed on the big screen yet again only with video game looking explosions and slow mo effects.

  • April 11, 2011, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Doubters are retarded. Mike shannOn is brilliant.

    by robertplant

    Just the actor. A still humble, Chicago theater actor that does films. You all should take a page from the respect book and tear it out. This guy will act the fuck out of Zod for you if that's what the script callls for- and you will LOVE it. This isn't spacey, this isn't singer. Get behind this- Mike is real and cool. If he's told me I'm funny, then hes real. Give Mike Shannon his shot!!!

  • April 11, 2011, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Villains

    by robertplant

    I don't get it either why it is Zod again. Theyre doing something along the lines of batman begins. If you can afford to support them, do it! This is not Zod rediue- this is a whole new story. This is SUPERMAN BEGINS. KNEEL BEFORE SHANNON! he'll probably tell you what's up!

  • April 11, 2011, 5:23 a.m. CST

    i was excited for this....

    by Obscura

    until i saw suckerpunch.... now i'm just worried. Whoever is casting this has their head screwed on though.

  • April 11, 2011, 5:46 a.m. CST

    "Zod knew Superman as a baby"

    by buggerbugger

    ...and became the little bugger's sworn enemy after being press-ganged into changing baby Kal-el's diaper one too many times?

  • April 11, 2011, 6:14 a.m. CST

    kisskissbangbang

    by Aaron

    Doomsday is not lame. He has become lame through overuse. After Doomsday and Supes had their first duke a roo, there was a little series called Superman: Hunter / Prey, which gave us Doomsday's origin, which, for the uninitiated, (deep breath): Doomsday was a genetic experiment created by a mad scientist eons ago on prehistoric Krypton to be, quite literally, the Ultimate being. over a long and slow and torturous process of being cloned and killed, over and over (by the harsh atmosphere and murderous creatures that roamed the planet), for some decades, he assumed the form that we are familiar with. He killed everyone and escaped Krypton, battling the Green Lantern Corps and various other forces over the millenia before being emtombed on Earth. Doomsday is not just a monster who beat Superman once, and tada, it's over. Doomsday is unkillable. He evolves past whatever killed him previously so that he cannot be killed by the same means twice. An ultimate killing machine, with hatred for all things Kryptonian programed into his genes. "I thought Doomsday just managed to wander in the direction of Metropolis!" Superman says (paraphrased) when confronting Waverider about his origins. Doomsday caused Clark to have recurring nightmares after his resurrection that were so bad that he was compelled to go out into space and find his body. He found Doomsday on Apokalips, giving Darkseid the what-for. He was the only thing that Superman came to fear in his life. Plus, he couldn't be beaten twice. That to me is superbadass. At the end of Hunter / Prey, Waverider dumped Doomsday at the end of time, the only place where his rampage would finally end. So fucking metal.

  • April 11, 2011, 6:16 a.m. CST

    contd

    by Aaron

    And then they beat the concept into the dirt like they do with everything good.

  • April 11, 2011, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Done!

    by brobdingnag

    Zod as the villain? Been there done that.

  • April 11, 2011, 6:36 a.m. CST

    He would make a much better Metallo I feel

    by D.Vader

  • Sure Joker has been done in the Burton Batman film and Nolan made it his own, but Zod is the villian made famous by the Donnerverse. If Richard Donner didn't do STM and Superman 2 (That's TWO Superman movies), then Zod wouldn't be in the new movie for sure. Next up : John Williams theme to be used. (zzzz)

  • April 11, 2011, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Fuck! ZOD? Seriously?

    by Judge Briggs

    Has anyone involved with this production been listening to the fan base? NOBODY WANTS TO SEE FUCKING ZOD AGAIN! We want Braniac, Metallo, or fucikng Darkseid! Fuck! There goes any interest that I had in this movie! Get a brian, morans!

  • April 11, 2011, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Zod? Really?

    by larry burbridge

    I was hoping fro something fresh. Like Darkseid . then you could have added soem of the NEw Gods for interest. Shannon does the intense thing well, but I think a English actor would have been a better choice. I like soem of the casting, especialy Costner as Pa Kent. But would rather see a new villain, like Doomsday and massive destruction. to be interesting they need to show that Kal-EL IS and alien and he should be different from us. this sid e of superman has never really been shown. all we ever get is the big boy scout version.

  • Hey, cast Lindsay Lohan ! That would bring the crowds for sure !

  • April 11, 2011, 7:17 a.m. CST

    People didn't complain about Joker in TDK because...

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    ...we'd already seen Penguin, Catwoman, Two Face, The Riddler, Mr Freeze, Bane, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow, Ra's Al Ghul and Zassz since the last time the clown prince was used. In Superman, we've seen Luthor and Zod. And we'll be seeing Zod again in what is meant to be a fresh start. Even in the new Spider-Man we're getting to see a villain we haven't before. If Non and Ursula appear as well it will be truly deflating.

  • April 11, 2011, 7:19 a.m. CST

    I've (rightly) pelted Singer for Superman Returns but...

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    I'd rather have seen a sequel to his film than Snyder's. Oh well.

  • Snyder, Goyer and Nolan : No BALLS at all.

  • April 11, 2011, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Oppression link.

    by Se7en

    http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/Jorell1987/OPPRESSION.jpg

  • April 11, 2011, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Superman fighting another super-man...

    by D.Vader

    Does not interest me as much as fighting giant robots or alien monsters would.

  • More flying and punching this time around, but with extra laser vision and frost breath.

  • He has been my number for choice for Luther for about 10 years now. I think he can capture the perfect embodiment.

  • April 11, 2011, 8:32 a.m. CST

    It's titled "Man of Steel" according to the press release

    by LaserBees

    Not "The Man of Steel" and not "Superman: Man of Steel".

  • April 11, 2011, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Brainiac? Metallo? Bizarro? Darkseid?

    by DonnyUnitas

    Can we think of any other villains the General Moviegoing public wont pay to see? The choice of Zod is just as much about marketing as it is anything else. At the very least, it's a name that A) doesn't sound retarded, and B) is more familiar to the general public. Do I wish they'd go off and start with a new villain? Sure. But they're playing it safe due to industry volatility; they're not trying "reinvent the wheel" of Superman movies. Rest assured, this will be a big budget movie with plenty of SFX... and with a studio sinking that much money into it, having unremarkable or virtually unknown villains presents too much of a risk. Of course, there's always the giant metal spider.

  • April 11, 2011, 9:29 a.m. CST

    guy's a good actor but i'm seeing Metello more but he's good enough.

    by The Founder

  • April 11, 2011, 9:30 a.m. CST

    I will now officially see this film

    by ZomBea_Arthur

    Michael Shannon is the damn man. He got nominated for an Oscar on less than 10 minutes of screen time in Revolutionary Road for good reason. He made Leo DiCaprio, Kate Winslett and Kathy Bates look like extras on That's So Raven in every scene he was in with them. He's long overdue for a role in a huge film like this. I can't wait to see him get a second Oscar nomination for Take Shelter this year.

  • WB will do it, mark my words. Marvel has the Avengers coming up and if Marvel knocks it outta the park you can bet the JLA is coming.

  • April 11, 2011, 9:42 a.m. CST

    WTF Zod?

    by TheNothing

    My interest in this movie just took a serious drop. So much for doing something different and NOT relying on previous movies. Have they forgotten how to write villains that haven't already been on-screen, or are they just too lazy to explore something new?

  • April 11, 2011, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Stallone as Non. Bwahahaha.

    by The_Dark_Shite

  • April 11, 2011, 10:07 a.m. CST

    i'll give this a chance

    by thesmilingpsycho

    the only doubts i have about it is snyder. not sure how he will handle the story, but i know he will at least be good with the action and maybe if he is surrounded by a good enough cast they will outshine some of his poor directing skills. i don't have a problem with them using zod tho. and michael shannon is already a scary looking dude so if u throw in superpowers i think i might crap my pants. i think there is plenty of opportunity tho to do a better version of zod than the donner version. i mean come on, that was corny as hell. everybody knows it. even if donner didnt want it to be that way. zod is the perfect superman villian and i can't wait to see how they portray him.

  • April 11, 2011, 10:14 a.m. CST

    First mistep so far.......having Zod.

    by knowthyself

    Come on I thought we weren't going to remind people of Donner's film. This is a step backwards after all that talk about doing something fresh and new.

  • April 11, 2011, 10:17 a.m. CST

    zod = doze

    by abe

  • April 11, 2011, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Will Smith for Gus Gorman

    by FlyingToupee

  • April 11, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Daniel Craig for Ross Webster

    by FlyingToupee

  • April 11, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Jennifer Aniston for Lorelei Ambrosia

    by FlyingToupee

  • April 11, 2011, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Meryl Streep for Vera Webster

    by FlyingToupee

  • April 11, 2011, 10:23 a.m. CST

    It's not specifically Zod that's the problem...

    by Mazzer

    ...it's that we have the fatal mistake of a villian with the same powers as the hero, again. The thing that makes Superman exciting and interesting is that he has powers that nobody else does. Once you introduce a villian with equal powers, then you may as well be watching two chickens fighting. We had this problem in the last Hulk film... great until the Abomination showed up, then it's that long, boring fight of equally-matched creatures that ya want to be over. Same with Ironman: great for the first half, then you have to endure a "finale" of two guys in equally matched suits doing the usual fight sequence. Yawn. The only way this Superman might work is if Zod has no superpowers for the whole film, but of course that won't happen.

  • April 11, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Oh well..

    by catlettuce4

    I think I already saw the one where he fights Zod. Never mind then, thought this was going to be a new Superman film.

  • April 11, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    I'd read a Metallo plot synopsis/rumor.

    by catlettuce4

    I liked that one... but now it appears it was not true. They will go the Zod route...again. I like Zod and all, but can't they see part of the big problem with getting a Superman project that works well is that they keep retreading what was already done? Sadly, we will almost never get inhuman-looking villains, because they don't want us to see Superhero fights that don't come down to two unmasked, human-faced actors talking by the end of it.

  • April 11, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Zack Snyders Casting

    by D o o d

    is as rubbish as his directing!

  • There is no other way to make those villains look realistic, it'll be difficult to use those characters.

  • April 11, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    It can always be worst

    by OSAMP1

    Right?

  • April 11, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Eeh.

    by blackwood

    Zod. Eeh. I really like Michael Shannon though, so I'm torn. Yay for Shannon, boo for the apparent direction of the film. Well-worn origin story, hard-to-top villain rehash... Look, if it were Luthor, I wouldn't feel the same -- because Luthor is Supes' Joker. The Moriarty to his Holmes. That relationship is always interesting, or can be. There's a lot to dislike in Singer's RETURNS, but as much as I didn't like Spacey in the role I liked his bitterness toward Superman. There are depths unplumbed. Luthor is the man who questions God. Zod... he's just another Superman, except 'evil'.

  • April 11, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST

    I seriously hope Green Lantern is a hit.

    by catlettuce4

    Even if it's somehow a bad movie, I hope it does well. Maybe then WB will see that these SUPERhero films can be really over the top, sci-fi, effects-heavy, alien-filled extravaganzas, not just down to earth human type characters who maybe can lift heavy things. (Assuming GL will actually be as heavy on that stuff as the last footage suggests, anyhow.) Superman should be full of amazing characters and events, and all we seem to get is the same old stuff that was possible with 1970's technology when Donner made his films. If they want to update their Superman films why the hell are they not UPDATING them? Show us epic scale here!

  • This just doesn't happen in movies or books.

  • April 11, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Why do you guys keep wondering about sequels and franchises.

    by inkingeekX

    This is the last gasp for Superman from WB. After this they LOSE THE RIGHTS! Which is, as I said, why they're rushing this so quickly. It's why Snyder was brought in-for polish and glamor without much care towards a story, why there's a few Oscar winners sprinkled in-to try and convince us it's good. This is the last ditch effort to get a pay day out of the character-it wouldn't surprise me if WB tried to kill him off at the end-just to make it difficult for whatever studio gets the rights next to give us a good Superman

  • April 11, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST

    catlettuce4, you make an interesting point...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ..actors generally don't like playing characters whose face you can't see. And stars are generally too vain to do so (and to be fair, they can argue their fans want to see _them_). That's one reason why movies like The Elephant Man are rare: you never see John Hurt's face. He was actor enough to get an Oscar nod, as I believe Eric Stoltz did for Mask, but they're the only ones that come to mind. (Whoops, forgot Ron Perlman, who I think has done it several times...but it's still infrequent.) With stars, it's much worse. Judge Dredd never takes off his helmet; he was once shown wearing it in the shower (which was ridiculous, but intentionally so). So what happens when you cast Sylvester Stallone in the role; he takes the helmet off. I could never work up the fortitude to watch the FF movies (it's my favorite comic), so I don't know if they ever showed Doom without the mask, but I'm guessing they at least showed the actor pre-disfigurement, and he wasn't a star, anyway. So getting a name to play Doomsday or Mongul will be tough. (Hell, Gene Hackman didn't want to be bald for Luthor, so Zod has to be easier to cast. Brainiac (the Silver Age version, who is once again the current version) only really needs green makeup and some headgear; you could fancy it up a bit, but it's a role an actor could remain recognizable in.) Sadly, you're right, cat; face time matters to most actors, and virtually all stars.

  • but if he is, you ain't gonna get me in the theatre for it. Also, on a humorous note, if they'd get Stallone to play Zod while channeling either a) brain dead Rocky b)Judge Dredd or c)Rambo that would be fun if they'd going to make an Donner superman film.

  • April 11, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    the_choppah

    by inkingeekX

    The biggest difference between TDK and superman being, NOLAN and SNYDER lol. We all know what happens when Snyder has an original thought-we get Sucker Punch, so he HAS to rehash characters-he doesn't have the ability to make anything new on his own. Everything I did enjoy from him has been somebody else's work...

  • April 11, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST

    inkingeekx also has a cogent point...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...the rights situation dictates speed when a massive special effects film usually requires time. It's part of the reason so much 3D stuff looks shoddy next to Avatar, where Cameron took years to try and get it right. I've said, like many others, that Snyder worries me; but Snyder on a rush job worries me even more.

  • April 11, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    fanboys have no balls

    by Billy_D_Williams

    its time to start boycotting movies if you truly feel they're fucked. Snyder sucks, we're getting Zod again...wake up, the studio has NO respect for you...they said they wanted to start fresh, then proceed to do Zod again??? every one of you complaining faggots will be there opening day...grow a pair for fuck sake and show the studios they dont have a job unless people show for movies.

  • April 11, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST

    And as long as its not another Donner type film

    by leo54304

    I'm willing to see it, no matter how bad Snyder films have a way of spiraling out of control midway thru the 2d act. Hopefully with the Nolans there in the background to reign in his wild streak, this movie might turn to be not just a visual spectacle.

  • A ridiculous amount of hype was built around his death, and how playing The Joker traumatized him so badly that it led to his death. Jack Nicholson saying he "warned" Ledger about it. A bunch on nonsense, we all know now. TDK would have been big anyways, bigger than Batman Begins, but it would have had less people check it out of morbid curiosity. Problem I have with Zod is that it reeks of scriptwriters not knowing anything else about the Superman villains except what was shown the Donner movies. Zod has made a comeback in the last decade in the comics (again, thanks to fanboys of the Donner movies: Geoff Johns), but for 20 years we rarely had any Zod after Byrne had Zod killed with Kryptonite, and it was a Zod from a pocket universe, since, at the time, Superman was the only surviving Kryptonian. Saying they HAD to use Zod because the other villains are not as well known to the general public is silly. Outside of Luthor and the Batman bad guys that were featured in the 60's Adam West series, the general public has no knowledge of comic book bad guys. Still, that didn't stop Ra's Al Ghul, Sandman, Scarecrow, Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus, Iron Monger, Magneto, Mystique, Deathstrike, Red Skull, etc. from being used in movies.

  • Come on people. Zach is going to make this yet another "meh" film. In fact, I'd say this film has a lesser chance of being great than we would have playing Pick-Up Stix with our butt cheeks.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    kisskissbangbang

    by inkingeekX

    Exactly, I was on board until I realized exactly why someone like Nolan in a producer capacity would associate with Snyder-they are totally different film makers. Had this been something they could develop I'd be happy, but when Snyder says, "now that I'm done with sucker punch, we can go bang out Superman". That tells me exactly the level of interest he's taking.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    OKAY, ZACK. STOP CASTING AND START FILMING.

    by BringingSexyBack

    I can't fucking wait for this.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST

    I HOPE HE FILMS A TWO-PARTER OUT OF THE GATE

    by BringingSexyBack

    This is one epicky cast Snyder's assembled. I'm hoping for a 3-hour epic or a 2-parter released within months of each other.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Ditching Brandon Routh was a bad idea

    by jawsfan

    Routh was great. He didn't have much material to work with in SR, but he was great. Superman needs to look like a young, all-American, handsome fella. Routh fit the bill quite well. The villains need to look threatening (which Shannon certainly can) or else it might as well be a cartoon). Some of you may not care for the Zod character for this movie, but if the script is good your fears will be put to rest. I'm more concerned about the script than I am about the director. I'm not Zach Snyder's biggest fan, but I don't think he sucks either. SCRIPT SCRIPT SCRIPT SCRIPT SCRIPT!!!! Good directors have made shitty movies because the script was too weak to begin with. If you're gonna worry about anything on this picture, worry about the script.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    zurenarrh, you make a good case, though I still don't agree...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...(and since your nick suggests a Morrison fan, I especially hate to disagree, but still...) I will grant you a couple of points. We both agree that the character has been overused, and that he's suffered for it. Unbeatable characters lose their impressiveness in exact proportion to the number of times they've been beaten. The gold standard here was Jim Shooter's Fatal Five. I won't be digressive and go into detail, but Shooter cleverly arranged four encounters between them and the Legion of Super-Heroes without the Legion beating them. Admirable, and fear-inspiring. Then someone else took over, had the Legion beat them, and pffft, game over; they were never quite the same. The more powerful the villain, the worse it gets. Galactus just isn't as impressive once Thor beats him by himself. Hell, the Celestials aren't as impressive as they once were. Ditto for the Borg. That's what Villain Decay means, and Doomsday suffers from a bad case. The other point we agree on is the background Doomsday was given in the Hunter/Prey miniseries. That really helped build up the character, and it's a pity they didn't unveil it during his first appearance. If you'd known he was built to be an unstoppable, adaptive, ultimate killing machine, it would have made the character more impressive and menacing. A history for a villain always helps, especially a history with the hero (which I would have preferred for a villain who kills Superman). Without that, he seemed a one-shot gimmick whipped up for a cheap sales stunt. And I'll give you that a seemingly unstoppable character can have a frightening aura of implacability. Perhaps the Terminator is the best example in film (and how clever of Cameron to turn the Terminator, once beaten, into a strong but vulnerable ally against a newer, more threatening model). In comics, Spider-Man fans may remember the Roger Stern story, "Nothing Can Stop The Juggernaut!," implacability built into his name. But at least Cain Marko has a personality, and even the Terminator has a few good lines. The X-Men's Sentinels, the Avenger's Super-Adaptoid, and the JLA's Amazo all have the power to adjust to whatever 's been thrown at them before, and require fresh ingenuity to beat. But they're all kind of ...boring, because they're all killing _machines_; their motivation is their programming. What makes them cool, short-term, makes them dull in the long run. The only exception might be Ultron, but a robot with an Oedipus complex has more than enough personality. I know this is long, but I wanted to back up my points rather than just assert them. I hope you can see better where I'm coming from, and sincerely look forward to your reply. Cheers.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    inkingeekx

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    You're right. Snyder isn't Nolan. Snyder can actually shoot an action scene in which you can discern spatial relationships between the actors. Nolan's action scenes are rough homages to Bay's scattershot action-filming techniques. Nolan is an admirer of Bay, after all. http://www.slashfilm.com/christopher-nolan-loves-watching-michael-bay-movies/ Now watch all the Nolanoids either straight up ignore this, tie themselves in knots defending their saviour, or defend Bay because Lord Nolan does.

  • April 11, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Still very worried about this film, but that dude does look scary.

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Something in the eyes...

  • April 11, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    choppah

    by inkingeekX

    I actually couldn't agree more about Nolan's action direction. I was alluding more towards story. You MUST have a good mix of both-that's what makes a superhero movie great-even tho the action is a little confusing at times, TDK is great because the action sits the story, not the other way around. Iron Man, IMO, was great because-again-there was a good mix of action and story. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you lol-just an observation-Nolan inspires confidence, Snyder inspires questions-that's really all I meant

  • April 11, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST

    well, choppah, I'm not thrilled to learn this...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...especially since Bay favors sheer chaos in action scenes over the clarity of a Spielberg or a Cameron or a George Miller. If you've got to go for frantic camerawork, I'd prefer Nolan taking tips from Paul Greengrass and his two Bourne films. But though I love Nolan's work, I'm not laboring under the delusion he's perfect. Action scenes are not his strong suit. The weakest part of Inception is his handling of the action in the snow scenes. In fact, crowds of bad guys is almost always bad news in Bond movies. Indistinguishable cannonfodder battles in Thunderball or Moonraker are their worst features (well, everything in Moonraker's at its worst). On the other hand, the truck/Batpod sequence in TDK is nicely handled, so he's learning. But, despite his stated love of them, I wouldn't put him on a Bond film just yet.

  • than fucking Zod. He great when playing someone who's either psychotic (Bug) Sociopath (Boardwalk Empire) or downright fucked in the head (Revolutionary Road) So Green Goblin fits him. just curious as to how the Spiderman reebot is shaping, BTW.

  • April 11, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Snyder can shoot action

    by Billy_D_Williams

    and make it look cool, but he cant tell a story in his action scenes...its just a bunch of cool shots strung together...but with no visual structure, bo build, no tension, no pay off. witness the opening of Raiders the brilliant action in Die Hard the T-Rex attack in Jurassic the bus scenes in Speed the trench run in Star Wars all these action scenes were brilliantly constructed, told a story in and of themselves, had buildup, tension, payoff... Snyder can do none of this. he is a hack, a glorified TV commercial director, an ad man, selling shots for a cool looking trailer to get butts in seats and nothing more...empty stylistic garbage.

  • April 11, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST

    This project makes me want to fuck.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Personally, I'm entertaining myself with visions of Diane Lane and Amy Adams simultaneously squeezing into Helen Slater's Supergirl costume.

  • April 11, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    THOU HAST FULFILLED THE JUDGEMENT OF THE WIKLED!!!!

    by HoboCode

    Could this movie suck slightly less now? I doubt it but this is the first non-fuckup I've read regarding this production.

  • April 11, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    WICKED

    by HoboCode

    Fuck.

  • April 11, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    billydee

    by inkingeekX

    Exactly what I was trying to say, though I have a tendency to be too nice about it lol

  • April 11, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Definitely Bizarro. Got robbed in Runaways.

    by UltraTron

  • April 11, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    choppah

    by inkingeekX

    I couldn't agree more-though I still maintain that I shouldn't want to fuck Martha Kent more than Lois Lane lol

  • April 11, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Is This Good News? I Don't Know Anything About This Guy.

    by NeonFrisbee

    I really want this new Supes to be good, but Sucker Punch proved to me that Snyder is incapable of doing anything but shooting action scenes. How odd that he made a movie which undercut his action scenes to such a degree that it also rendered what he's good at utterly and completely moot. Seriously, Sucker Punch should go down as one of the worst movies ever made. It's certainly one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

  • April 11, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Haha-I hope not lol

    by inkingeekX

  • April 11, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    SNYDER'S SLO-MO > NOLAN'S SLO-MO

    by BringingSexyBack

    Don't debate this.

  • April 11, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Krypton Mythology

    by Orion

    I remember reading something about the script for this movie that there is a big "krypton Mythology" introduced, whatever that means. So if part of the movie is about Superman's relationship to Krypton, Zod as the villain is understandable. If this movie does well, maybe they're setting up Braniac for the 2nd movie and Nuclear man for the 3rd.

  • April 11, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST

    axelfoley, if by "you really don't get it, do you?", you mean...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...I'm not taking the WB's decisions personally as a sign of contempt for the fans, no, I don't. But in the interest of seeking common ground, and making my own stance clearer, let me try again. I had not been following the publicity for this film closely since they announced Snyder as director. With him on board, whether I see it or not is still up in the air. Studios take your ticket purchase as a positive vote; that's why I didn't see the FF movies despite loving the FF (and all those fans who smugly predict "your ass will be in the seat"; not necessarily). But if I had been paying attention, I guess I'd have seen Snyder's comments about this being like no previous Superman that talkbackers here keep quoting, and I'd have understood better where you guys are coming from. If I'd have been getting a steady diet of "New! Different! Better!", maybe I, too, would feel cheated. As it is, I get it--a little. If you asked me straight up, "Who would you rather see in Man of Steel--Zod, Brainiac, or Mongul?", I'd have picked Brainiac or Mongul, for the same reason you guys give: they'd bring something fresh to the franchise. Luthor would not, and while a Nolan Luthor with a great actor might get past that and intrigue me, a Snyder Luthor would not. What Snyder is strongest at, though, is action, and Zod plays to that. And fans had also been demanding more action (usually expressed as a desire to see Supes fighting a giant robot), so Zod supplies that. And while I've seen Zod before, it's been _30_ years, so I don't feel he's been overexposed. But why not Mongul and Warworld? Not my call, but I imagine the studio wanted a familiar, proven ingredient in the mix, especially for the nonfan, general audience. Movies are crapshoots; as William Goldman said,"Nobody knows anything," and so they hedge their bets, especially since due to the lawsuit, it may be the WB's last bite at the apple. Is it optimal? No. (If we had to go the Zone route, I'd have preferred Jax-Ur, the most frequently used Phantom Zone villain in the comics, who, as I recall, was sentenced for blowing up Krypton's moon.) But I can live with it. I don't feel personally betrayed. If Snyder delivers truly badass action scenes, and the acting holds up, and the script doesn't scream "STUPID!", I'll probably see it. With my fingers crossed.

  • April 11, 2011, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Only know this guy from World Trade Center

    by darthderp

    He played the Marine who showed up on site after the attack to try to help out; "You ARE our mission!" was one of his big lines, if I remember right. Superman - done by any director - isn't exactly a low profile project. If (IF) this one hits big, Zod could be the big breakout role for this guy.

  • April 11, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    TRUST ME. THE MOVIEGOING PUBLIC IS NOT READY FOR MONGUL AND WARWORLD.

    by BringingSexyBack

    Cuz I'm fairly representative of the people at large and I know fuck all who they are.

  • ...was the Snyder that directed most of the rest of his output. I thought the beginning of that film was pretty goddamned awesome. And very pleased that billy_d_williams included the bus sequences from "Speed" in that list of great action samples. The shooting, cutting and scoring of those scenes (the "hard right turn" onto the freeway, the gap jump, etc.) make me giddy. One detail I love so much: when Sandra's character hits the turn signal arm, and we cut to the bus' rear lamp - "click" - as it's getting ready to make that impossible hard right... fucking awesome...

  • April 11, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Batman Begins used Ra's Al Ghul and Scarecrow

    by Nico Toscani

    So to those of you claiming that you MUST use villains the mainstream public knows in order to be successful are wrong.

  • Retreading Superman 2 is NOT the way to go. Superman vs General Zod, earth in peril because of Superman's history. Makes you think the world is better off without Superman.

  • April 11, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST

    I was seriously hoping he'd be Luthor.

    by Jet Jaguar

  • April 11, 2011, 3 p.m. CST

    John C. Reilly as Otis!

    by Jet Jaguar

  • April 11, 2011, 3 p.m. CST

    se7en: "Makes you think the world is better off without Superman."

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Wait a minute ... what does that sound like? Hmmm. Oh yes! A thematic conflict! Nothing like that could ever work in popular fiction.

  • Press release gonna be something like : "It's going to be 'modernized' version that speaks to today's audiences, but still recognizable as Superman."

  • April 11, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    The Problem with Zod is

    by Tom

    Even though Synder's movie is a reboot, it's so close to Singer's movie, it doesn't feel like it yet. So just like the Donnor movies, it was Luthor than Zod- Just what we are getting now. As for Batman, Burton had Joker, than Penguin and Catwoman. That's not what Nolan did (Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow, Joker, Two-Face). Nolan was smart enough to know, he should repeat anything of the original movies, and he didn't. But Singer (counting every beat as well) and Synder are (or it sure feels like it). It can still be an awesome movie (and I sure hope it is), I'm just not psychiced about with this news.

  • April 11, 2011, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Hopefully the Nolan/Snyder pairing is better than Spielberg/Bay.

    by Spyhunter

    I'm not counting on it. I'm sure we'll get Lex the next film, so I'm looking forward to them getting some other villains fleshed out on screen in 2016! Nah, they'll reboot around then.

  • By the third act I couldn't believe that Favreau was using the same conflicted theme. Such a waste.

  • April 11, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Then againd Dark Knight grossed a lot more than Begins

    by David Cloverfield

    So the massage for the suits is clearly: established villains make more money, than unknown ones.

  • April 11, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    NICO - GOOD POINT

    by BringingSexyBack

    Never mind what I said.

  • April 11, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST

    DAVID CLOVERFIELD - GOOD POINT

    by BringingSexyBack

    My point stands.

  • April 11, 2011, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Zod AGAIN?

    by kungfuhustler84

    YAWN. Wake me up when they reboot this shit again with Brainiac.

  • April 11, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST

    I suggested this in the Costner casting TB two months ago...

    by SK229

    Well, I suggested they get him to play A villain, but didn't specifically mention Zod. I also said he'd elevate the entire project by his presence... I actually like the casting of this so far, although I think Armie Hammer was born to play Supes.

  • April 11, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    I like him in boardwalk empire

    by ZackyBoy

    And revolutionary road...but he overacted in runaways...

  • April 11, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST

    hmmmmmmmm

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Maybe he can pull it off.

  • April 11, 2011, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Also, how's that 'original take' Nolan mentioned working out?

    by SK229

    Again, I'm all for Michael Shannon and know he'll be amazing as Zod, but wasn't this supposed to NOT go over Donner territory again? Another thing I'm astounded at (though it's not all bad) is the turn-around on reboots now... one film doesn't work, they don't give a shit, turn right around and reboot the whole damn thing from scratch less than 5 years later. Then think about the time between the last Reeve Superman and Singer's version. Or even Batman and Robin and Batman Begins. Although you could almost argue that Kilmer and Clooney were practically reboots.

  • April 11, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Everyone wants Darksied, Brainiac, Metallo, Doomsday but...

    by brocknroll

    ...if you didn't catch my post above, you can expect Snyder and Warner Bros. would make those villains you guys want CGI characters. Do you honestly want that? Be honest now. If you don't want a CGI villain, then it's best they use a human villain. Get over yourselves.

  • April 11, 2011, 5 p.m. CST

    brocknroll, as I said above, I agree, with the exception...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...of Brainiac. In the android version currently featured in the comics (same as the Silver Age version), it's only an issue of green makeup. If you demand the silver metal skull and tendrils version from the Bronze Age, though, you're right.

  • April 11, 2011, 5:12 p.m. CST

    brocknroll, I'm with kisskissbangbang....

    by Se7en

    It's been done briliantly by Gore Verbinski. Creating the villian Davy Jones for Pirates Of The Caribbean, is a great performance by Bill Nighy, using a combination of make-up, motion capture, 3D Computer generated effects, and great lighting creating this highly praised, some say as the second most convincing computer generated film character in film history. What ? Too fantastical ? Not 'commercial' enough for the masses ? ...er.. Pirates 1, 2 worldwide gross is what ? Grow a pair SNYDER. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FromRealToReal.jpg

  • Bad guy with inflated head in two relatively recent and different DC comic book movies. Could muddy the waters.

  • April 11, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST

    brocknroll

    by Dr. Strangelove

    Hey Brainiac! You DO realize that the current execs in charge of Warner Brothers aren't the same people who ran the company in 1983, right? You DO understand that script decisions made almost thirty years ago for a completely different film with a completely different creative team have absolutely no bearing on how the current Superman film will be made, right? And you DO recognize that the previous film you mention (Superman III) was a complete piece of shit that everyone agrees should have stuck with the original Brainiac concept, right? Hmmmm?

  • April 11, 2011, 5:45 p.m. CST

    LOOKS LIKE A MONKEY. WHAT'S THE BIG WHOOP?

    by BringingSexyBack

  • April 11, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Jon Cryer is available!

    by wackybantha

    Get him to reprise his role of Lenny Luthor! Who's with me?

  • April 11, 2011, 5:53 p.m. CST

    choppah, I wouldn't claim to have seen every artist's version of Brainiac...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...but all the ones of the android, human-like version I recall feature a normal human head, just green, bald and with what looks like circuitry on top. Hammond, on the other hand, always had an outsize head (as I recall), and these days is presented as an absolute grotesque, with a head bigger than his body, I think. Don't have any recent issues to hand (I dropped it after Blackest Night), but I'm still reading them, and that's the way I remember it. So if I'm right, there's not much resemblance, and it will be a year or more, anyway, between their releases.

  • April 11, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST

    @writefortheedit - Snyder didn't direct the DotD credits

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    Kyle Cooper did. Probably explains why they are fucking class, unlike the film itself.

  • April 11, 2011, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Sorry, reread and you said opening, not credits.

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    Unless you did mean them?

  • April 11, 2011, 6:23 p.m. CST

    by Phil Black

    Simply by typing "First" in an internet forum you prove that you don't, in fact, have a life.

  • April 11, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST

    the_motorcycle_boy: I did mean the "opening"...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ...the beginning of the film, right up through the sky POV shot of the road as the car races ahead, with the crash at the intersection, etc. I really thought that all captured the hysterical, "what the fuck?!" terror and rapid decline of civility that would likely accompany a rise of the dead. Very effective. Then, downhill from there.

  • April 11, 2011, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Idris Elba as Luther!

    by Hipshot

    If anyone gets the joke...

  • April 11, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Do I want a CGI villain? Like Doc Oc?

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Naw, why would I want that. I read someone here compare this to the climax in Matrix Revolutions, and I completely agree. I thought that that battle between Neo and agent Smith to be tiresome, unexciting and anti-climactic.

  • April 11, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    How does Superman control his strength?

    by Keith

    Seriously, it must be like living in a world full of glass people and paper buildings. How does he manage to avoid blundering around crushing people's ribs by knocking into them, and breaking doors off their handles? Maybe it takes supreme concentration, but if that's the case, what happens if he loses it while having sex?

  • April 11, 2011, 7:26 p.m. CST

    CGI

    by Keith

    "Avatar obviously did their protaganists well using CGI, and hopefully Green Lantern's use of CGI works well on the characters in that movie. " And they look like cartoons. Not like a movie adaptation OF cartoons, but actually like cartoons. CGI gives a very specific look in most cases: a cartoon look.

  • April 11, 2011, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Superman 2 again?!!? what the fuck!!!

    by NorthTronic

  • April 11, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Zod would be cooler if he was all CGI

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    amirite

  • April 11, 2011, 7:39 p.m. CST

    I am...

    by Arafel

    "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." J. Robert Oppenheimer, Trinity (1945)

  • April 11, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST

    STOP ACCUSING IT OF BEING A SUPERMAN II REMAKE!!!! DOUCHEBAGS!!!

    by brocknroll

    We don't even know what the plot is going to be and we haven't seen a trailer yet. Don't judge this before you haven't even seen those things.

  • April 11, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST

    I usually try to have an open mind

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    I mean, fuck, I'll see what Thor is all about and look how shitty it looks. But I'd say the people blurting out "fuck it's Superman 2 all over again" have a valid argument. Many valid arguments. Many, many, many valid arguments.

  • April 11, 2011, 8:02 p.m. CST

    saying this is a remake of Superman 2 is like saying

    by zooch

    The Dark Knight was a remake of Batman '89.

  • April 11, 2011, 8:28 p.m. CST

    no one cared that the Dark Knight was a remake

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    because the Joker > Zod

  • April 11, 2011, 9 p.m. CST

    Not a Superman 2 remake?

    by catlettuce4

    No, I'm sure it won't be about Zod (and maybe his cohorts) trying to take over Earth and get some kind of revenge on Superman. Maybe he and Clark will team up and be good guys together or something...

  • April 11, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST

    ANY villain can be used well

    by catlettuce4

    Look, for example, what the Batman animated series did with characters like Mr. Freeze. Or what the same people did with Braniac on the Superman series for that matter. All it takes is good writing and some clever ideas. If it were true that these types of characters could not be used because the public doesn't know them, then we'd never have new movies with new villains, ever. Nobody knew who Darth Vader was at one point, so why the hell couldn't a Darkseid wotrk in a Superman film? We need good writers to introduce these guys properly and make them worth watching. Using Zod is LAZY, unambitious, and brings nothing new to the table. Fans of Superman have been wanting to see some of the other villains handled in live action forever, and STILL they are refusing to do it. It's just disheartening, and suggests we will never get anything but Donner remakes forever.

  • Damn.

  • It's been done briliantly by Gore Verbinski. Creating the villian Davy Jones for Pirates Of The Caribbean, is a great performance by Bill Nighy, using a combination of make-up, motion capture, 3D Computer generated effects, and great lighting creating this highly praised, some say as the second most convincing computer generated film character in film history. What ? Too fantastical ? Not 'commercial' enough for the masses ? ...er.. Pirates 1, 2 worldwide gross is what ? Grow a pair SNYDER. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FromRealToReal.jpg Braniac : http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/Jorell1987/OPPRESSION.jpg

  • but nolan is no longer attached to Superman. He has his own Batman movie to take care of, of which he's director, co-producer and co-writer. His Batman movie will be a lot of work to deal with. and you guys think he willhave the time to also take care and supervising another big movie? Guys, deal with it: Superman is now Snyder's show. There's no Nolan to save it now. Deal with it. Superman is fucked!

  • April 12, 2011, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Vegeta

    by knightriderzen

    It would be really funny if they approach Zod like Vegeta from Dragonball Z. Except as a guy taht stay bad.

  • April 12, 2011, 9:27 a.m. CST

    I really don't know what fanboys wanted from Watchmen

    by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH

    Snyder made a pretty faithful adaption, shot for shot at times. I think it comes down to the lack of giant squid. And maybe every Watchmen fanboy having his own idea of what a Watchmen movie would be like in his own head.

  • April 12, 2011, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Zod is boring

    by Hipshot

    About 70 years of Superman mythology in comics, radio, television, novels, serials and feature films, and Zod is the best they can do? Are they that unfamiliar with the canon? Superman has been put through every conceivable twist and turn and iteration, and films keep cannibalizing the two Donner movies? That is a failure of imagination of epic proportions--or the entire mythos is creatively bankrupt and was never worth anything to begin with. There have been THOUSANDS of Superman stories, and they keep referencing just two, which weren't the best anyway? I mean, they were all right, but that's it--the beauty was in how well realized they were, for the time. We could go waaaaaay beyond that now. They're dooming themselves, and it's a pity.

  • April 12, 2011, 10:39 a.m. CST

    kisskissbangbang

    by Aaron

    Wow, someone read what I had to say. I appreciate the civil and well-thought out reply. All very good points and I agree fully. Perhaps I have a soft spot for Doomsday as the death of Superman storyline was what got me into comics on a serious level. I still remember the feeling of going into the store and buying #75 in the black bag and treating it like it was a sacred tome. Little did I know... Yeah, by the time Doomsday was appearing for two or three panels in Infinite Crisis, he had definitely lost any weight or potential for weight that he ever had. Laughable stuff, that Infinite Crisis. I think that the film medium has an advantage over the comic book medium in this regard. They CAN use a villain like that--someone overused, or underused even--and give them a good, self-contained story, because, by the non serial nature of these films, it's easier to take the essential elements of the character and make them work. The Justice League Unlimited series did this regularly, and very well. I am indeed a Morrison devotee. And KISS KISS BANG BANG is a favorite of mine.

  • April 12, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Yeah,hipshot I got the joke.

    by Stalkeye

    Elba was the best thing about that series. (Luther) well, him and that stalker chick. Who fucking knew this cat was from England after seeing Takers, American Gangster, The losers and now Thor? He's a solid actor and here's hoping that he'll land better roles in the future.

  • ... and calling what Snyder did with his movie as faithfulness is quite debatable. Very debatable. Very very much. The fucker might had copied some frames of the comic well, but what really matters the most he fucked up. And it's not just the squid.

  • April 12, 2011, 12:29 p.m. CST

    viggeo_morgenstein

    by AsimovLives

    The more i think about it, the more i realise that Jackie Earle Haley's Rorsharch is a pretty big deviation from the character in the novel. In the novel he is pratically devoided of emotions, or the expression of emotions. In the movie he's the exact oposite. In the comic, his anger is mroe intelelctual, while he still shows a dead eyed face to the world, evne in extreme danger. In the movie, he is always pissed off, always speaking with a pissed off face, he's a fucking emo! Rorcharsh in the movie was one of the few things i used to say good of the movie, but not it's not even that. The movie really fucked up. And by movie i mean Zacky The Hackboy Snyder.

  • April 12, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST

    If the film fails, it won't be because of Zod

    by FrodoFraggins

    it will be because of Hack Snyder

  • April 12, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    So sick of Reboots. Won't see this movie on principal alone.

    by crazybubba

    Fuck Hollywood. Since I was a kid I've waited for Hollywood to make comic book movies on a regular basis the way they are today. The problem is they don't give a shit about the source material or the quality of the movie. Fuck Snyder he's got no balls. He proved that with the squid debacle.

  • April 12, 2011, 8:12 p.m. CST

    zurenarrh, (if you're still following the thread)...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...glad you appreciated the rely. I thought your post made some good points that deserved an answer. I do run on sometimes, but arguments need more room than insults do. And hey, if Doomsday brought you into comics, a) I'm glad, and b) I have my own soft spots, that I may not be as objective about as I like to think I am. So I understand completely. Great chatting with you. See you around.

  • April 13, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST

    This isn't Donner's Superman, it's a new vision...

    by tensticks

    ...that's going to use the single most iconic villain from Donner's version. Yeah. Whatever. Singer/Routh may have been deeply flawed but it was a noble failure with nothing but the best intentions. Nolan/Snyder/Goyer will be the ultimate marriage of pretentious pomposity (Nolan/Goyer) and utter hackwork (Snyder/Goyer). If I'm wrong, and it's good in any way, I'll eat my words. But I have no hope for this.

  • April 13, 2011, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Snyder's Watchmen

    by tensticks

    I'm paraphrasing a review from thedigitalbits.com that nailed it in a way I was undable to do in pages upon pages of critique. Snyder's Watchmen is like the greatest karaoke singer in the world singing a technically flawless rendition of the greatest song ever written without understanding or feeling for one fucking minute what the song is supposed to MEAN.

  • April 14, 2011, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Elba should be Jefferson Pierce

    by Smack_Teddy

    If Michael Jar White doesn't want the part

  • April 14, 2011, 4:55 p.m. CST

    He would also make a fine Dr Who

    by Smack_Teddy