Kapow! Adrian calls the Thor presentation the highlight of the day! Footage description and Q&A!
Hello again from London.
The Kapow! Comic Con has just finished its day 1 here in Islington, and they saved the best til last. Those 500 or so of us lucky enough to squeeze into the baking hot main auditorium were treated to 3 separate Thor clips, and as far as I know, none of them have been seen before. Best of all, the first one we saw was a staggering 20 minutes long. When it was announced that we'd be seeing the clips in 2D, rather than the eventual 3D, a cheer arose from the crowds.
There are some people who would be upset about seeing this much of a movie before actually seeing the whole thing in the cinema - but for me Thor has actually been probably my least anticipated film of the summer - so I wasn't too bothered about watching this. Although my bag, my phone, my laptop, my camera and very nearly my wallet were all confiscated before going in to see the footage, I managed to scribble down some notes about what I saw in the dark using good old fashioned pen and paper - so here goes (spoilers abound I'm afraid)...
Clip 1 started by showing us a bit more of scenes we're all used to seeing now from previous footage: Thor's thundering argument with Odin, him being cast out of Asgard, and landing in the path of Natalie Portman's truck in New Mexico. We see Thor's encounter and tasering from Portman's friend, which we've seen before. As the truck drives away with the unconscious Thor inside, we see the hammer crash land in the distance, some miles away. Thor wakes up in hospital, and although he initially can't break out of his restraints, he manages to get out (we don't see the full hospital breakout). The focus then moves to the ginourmous hammer crater, which is found by a farmer type in his red pickup. He tries to pull the hammer out of the rock in which it is embedded, but can't. The man obviously ends up inviting his friends to try too, and we see a sequence of tough guys failing to extract hammer from stone. One of them attaches a cable to his truck, but the cable snaps off. Zoom into the driver's face and it's..... Stan Lee! (cue much cheering from the audience).
We then saw a clip of the diner scene, most of which is material that's already out there - Thor smashing the coffee cup and so on - but we also see that he overhears some men talking about the hammer and that no one can pull it from the ground. He demands to know where they saw it - and they tell him. Cut to the hammer location, around which agent Coulson and his SHIELD agents have now built a network of lit up tunnels (E.T. style), bridges and military stuff. Natalie Portman's character has driven Thor to the location. What follows was the pick of tonight's footage. Thor breaks into the facility using pure human strength and proceeds to kick the asses of a number of guards. The men on the base are getting pretty scared, so agent Coulson makes a call to someone he thinks can help. We see the hand of the man who he's called, who initially reaches for a gun to deal with the threat, but thinks better of it, and picks up a bow and arrow instead...
Everyone around me went pretty nuts when Jeremy Renner appeared on the screen as Hawkeye. He was wearing I guess military style clothes, and called agent Coulson 'sir'. He was ordered to train his arrow on Thor, but was never ordered to fire it. Coulson wanted to see what happened when Thor got to the hammer. What happens is that Thor isn't strong enough to pull it out of the ground either. Thor falls to his knees in despair, screaming into the sky (and to his father): "WHY!!???!!"
Clip 2 was much shorter, and showed the mischievous Loki as the new king of Asgard, after Odin falls into his sleep. Loki speaks to a number of members of the court, all of whom clearly disagree with his decisions and the fact that he has become king in the first place, but he makes it clear that he is now boss. It's so hard to not make Asgard and the helmets and everything look stupid, and in many photos I've seen up to this point I really wasn't sure. But somehow they've managed to make it look like it makes sense when you see it on the big screen. But only just.
Clip 3 showed Thor in a SHEILD interrogation room, where he is visited by Loki, who appears out of nowhere dressed in normal human clothes. Loki tells Thor that his father has died, and that Thor's exile from Asgard is going to be permanent. Thor cries. Loki then goes outside to where the hammer is still stuck in the ground, and confidently tries to pull it out himself. He can't, so he's obviously unworthy, and he's obviously pretty annoyed about that.
That was the end of the section of video clips, and to a very warm welcome from the crowd Tom Hiddlestone and Chris Hemworth walked on stage. Anyone who's seen the trailer knows how big Hemsworth is, but it's still pretty astounding. He is massive. Each one of his shoulders is about as big as my bathtub. He's also amazingly nice, with his easy-going, very humble, Aussie mannerisms. He explained that he had been having a tough time career-wise before Thor came along, and was on the verge of packing his bags and heading back down under when he got the call.
Turns out that both actors saw the finished film for the first time last night, so it was really fresh in their minds. They spoke about how, despite its fantastical themes and obviously other-wordly palette, in the end the movie works because it is about relationships between brothers and sons, brothers and brothers, and people. Tom said that was the way they humanised Thor as actors. Chris said that Kenneth Branagh was very passionate about the film from the beginning, keen to be true to both the comics and to the Norse legends. He described how Branagh (he calls him 'Ken') reduces each scene to its "barest, most intense elements" in order to keep it grounded in real human experience as much as possible.
Of course, it wasn't long before questions turned to The Avengers, but both actors had obviously been well briefed to stay well away from the topic. All that Chris would give us is that they start production in early May, and that he's met up with Joss Whedon several times already. He says the director has some 'amazing ideas' about where to take the character of Thor next, and that it will open up more options for him. Tom wouldn't be drawn into saying whether he'd have a role in the ensemble piece, but it seems pretty clear that he won't.
Something I didn't know before is that Tom got quite far down the line in the auditions for Thor himself, but he says that having seen the finished article he "couldn't have done what [Chris] managed to do with the part - the athleticism, the intensity and the arrogance". Chris kindly came back by saying that "I couldn't have played Loki. He's too intelligent."
As for the other actors in the film, Chris claims that Anthony Hopkins gives "one of the great performances of his life" in Thor. Let's hope that's true.
Chris ended by telling us that he tried to steal one of the hammers they used in filming, but missed his chance. But he says he'll be quicker next time.
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April 9, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST
Has been surprisingly tepid, almost laborious to watch. Nothing I've seen has sold me on Hemsworth as a viable lead. The new clip that Marvel leaked seem to have a quick shot of Hawkeye, though, which was kinda cool.
April 9, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST
Hasn't done a truly great performance for years.
April 9, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST
Loki is definitely in it. Zero question of this.
April 9, 2011, 6:05 p.m. CST
they are in a hospital and natalie portman and kat dennings are in sitcom mode fumbling over thier words and then Thor freaks out on the doctors followed by a comical fight and thor getting sedated complete with a loney tunes face before he faints. It looks like a joke and would probabaly work better with Benny hill music in the background i'm alright with the film having comedy, but why is that all we are seeing from this, where is the action and fantasy?
April 9, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST
because this is 100% spot on. A+ script, btw.
April 9, 2011, 6:51 p.m. CST
......that's like the new "where's his helmet" question. We've already seen the helmet. We're yet to see him in flight in any of the trailers even though we know from the comics and the animated features, he flies. And I know that he talks about "flying" out of the S.H.I.E.L.D facility after retrieving Mjolnir, but it's also possible that they just threw that line in there to tease people and instead he just runs out.
April 9, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST
My wife doesn't care what happens in the movie as long as Hemsworth is partially nude. I think this will draw more women than anticipated.
April 9, 2011, 6:55 p.m. CST
Outside of Dr Strange, Thor (in wacko's humble opinion) is probably one of the most difficult to translate (convincingly) to film out of all Marvel's characters from its vast library. That being said...I honestly believe that Branagh & company have nailed it to the ground. I can't wait. Lightning strike me down...I'm actually more excited for Thor than I am Captain America...& I'm a huge fan of the Avengers...but I think that's gonna be Marvel's shark jump movement. Then again...everyone's saying that DC/Warner Bros has just performed said shark jump moment by releasing Green Lantern. Heh heh heh. One can only hope that all three are a success...but I realize that that's asking a lot of everyone all around the boards.
April 9, 2011, 7 p.m. CST
People need to be entertained, they need the distraction. I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die? Why do they come to me to die?"
April 9, 2011, 7:23 p.m. CST
Obviously if you read about a movie before you see it, you might find out about the plot, etc...dumbfucks.
April 9, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST
April 9, 2011, 7:39 p.m. CST
....would have been awesome as thor. DLR would have brought the house down in that role.
April 9, 2011, 7:44 p.m. CST
The tidal wave of hate from these boards will be unlinke anything we've seen before. Regardless if it's good or not.
April 9, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST
Count on it you teen age turds!
April 9, 2011, 8:19 p.m. CST
I don't get the negativity from some of the whiners- I mean, "posters- here over Thor. This is going to be one big film.
April 9, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST
by u.k. star
..You know just a few, but on here (as always) everything looks like shit and everything will suck, no matter how many people tell you otherwise. Thor looks great; the ads have been spot on in timing and content. Asgard and heavy drama in trl 1 and comic con ; more humour and Earthbound settings in trl 2 and a mix of action, Sci-Fi romance, humour both for kids and adults and a sense that Thor is someone you might want to hang around with BUT has TREMENDOUS power. Oh and Mjolnir cam and Thor Flying. You see him fly at the end of one of the TV spots, through a storm I believe. 15 days, I'm so looking forward to this movie it feels like it is 15 months away! I have a feeling this will be a top 5 Super hero movie, with Branagh directing and the quality of the cast I really do.
April 9, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST
the story sounds and looks totally predictable too. it will make opening weekend $$$ bcuz comic/marvel fans and kids will see it. but i think its gonna be generic suck. shouldve forgotten about the avengers and just do a tales of asgard thor movie.
April 9, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST
Where the fuck have you FNGs been hiding? Besides, to some people this movie looks pretty awful. I find it funny that people can say this looks awesome and then turn around and accuse "haters" (a term I hate to use) of being negative based on a few clips. Uh, isn't that EXACTLY what the "lovers" are doing? Just the other way? If you're gonna complain about people being negative, shut the fuck up with your oozing optimism then. Otherwise just take everyone's opinion as just that. Anyway, I dunno how this is gonna be. I know that Green Lantern will suck Harry Knowles-sized assholes.
April 9, 2011, 8:43 p.m. CST
So take anything anyone says from this board with an astronomical grain of salt. My opinions included:)-
April 9, 2011, 8:53 p.m. CST
Maybe 30 years ago. 20 years ago he was already going bald. BTW, there was actually some low-rent musclehead metal singer in the mid 80's who called himself "Thor" and would blow up rubber gloves during his set like Howie Mandel. Funniest fuckin' thing you'd ever see. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5hTagjh_Vg
April 9, 2011, 8:58 p.m. CST
"it is about relationships between brothers and sons" ...wait, what? You mean, like Thor goes out for ice cream with his uncle?
by Tigger Tales
April 9, 2011, 9:13 p.m. CST
... by the looks of the trailers, but it will establish another character for AVENGERS, which I think is a first for a huge tentpole movie - a franchise amalgamation blockbuster. The likes of FREDDY vs JASON or AVP don't come close.
April 9, 2011, 9:33 p.m. CST
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF LITTLE BITCHES WILL BE CREAMING HIS PANTS IN HUMILIATION WHEN THOR BRINGS DOWN HIS HAMMER
by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION
and creates an awesome rippling wave of TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
April 9, 2011, 9:34 p.m. CST
Thor, Cap, GL... nothing that I'm really anticipating this year. Cap could have been cool but, I'm not into the whole old-school WWII thing (even though it is canon from the books). Thor I've never really been into in the first place (and I'm a die hard Marvel fanboy). Green Lantern looks like it could have been cool, even though I know next to nothing of the character, BUT... have you guys SEEN the CGI scenes shot on the GL planet (sorry, don't know the name, not into the DC universe)? Looks worse than the CGI from the Final Fantasy movie and how old is that? Oh well, maybe having my expectations lowered will turn out to be a good thing. We shall see.
April 9, 2011, 9:37 p.m. CST
A SHIELD soldier? Marine? Any hint of his costume from the comics at all?
April 9, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST
The Avengers movie could be something great. If they pull it off right (which is going to be a huge task), this could be something that hasn't been done (a crossover of this size and scope) and could lead to some new a exciting movies in the future. HOWEVER, if it turns out to be a disaster (and I'm sorry but, even if it breaks even at the box office, this will be a huge disappointement considering the YEARS of hype going into it), it could really damage the future of ALL superhero movies to come. If The Avengers is anything less than stellar, I fear for the future of at least Marvel related super hero movies. Big big gamble on this one. I'm cheering for them though. I've grown up on Marvel and love to see them doing good. Kind of like rooting for the home team I guess.
April 9, 2011, 9:50 p.m. CST
Thor because it's too hard to translate. Captain America because it's Joe Johnston.
April 9, 2011, 10:09 p.m. CST
The USA has been taking it's talent for years for all of this fanboy output. Films, comics etc. It's about time British produced stuff started getting out there. In the 1960's. British films were equal to the best in the world. It's been years of steady decline. It's time to rally again!
April 9, 2011, 10:10 p.m. CST
Just everything so far looks ho hum. I'm more looking forward to Captain America. I will wait for reviews on Thor.
April 9, 2011, 10:13 p.m. CST
by Roger Moon
Harold, get me a fucking beer, you beef-witted knotty-pated hedge pig.
April 9, 2011, 10:57 p.m. CST
British movies just won Academy Awards for Best Pic, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, Best Screenplay. "When is Hollywood going to make a decent movie that wasn't completely carried by Brits" should be the question!
April 9, 2011, 11:19 p.m. CST
because from all the clips it looks like a comedy...I mean, smashing glasses and asking for more, facebook, myspace, tasing, haldol injections in the buttocks, funny faces...looks like a riot! I would also like to add that Thor and Dr Strange would NOT be the hardest to transfer to film. Dr. Strange (admittedly I haven't read the comics) I think could be shown in del Toro's style, and told in the style of V ..and Thor...well, imagine the story of the cripple Donald Blake, pursued by otherwordly forces until he encounters a strange hammer, a hammer that restores his memory and makes him a god on earth. Would be a lot more simple, interesting, and relatable than the current plot.
April 9, 2011, 11:45 p.m. CST
April 10, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST
Point taken. Yet where does the money from that movie go? The Weinsteins who are born and bred Americans. Brits were heavily involved. Yet why couldn't a British production house produce it?
April 10, 2011, 1:07 a.m. CST
Will wait a couple weeks to hear the buzz on Thor, but not really intrigued by what I've seen so far. GL and CA are opening nighters for me.
April 10, 2011, 2:56 a.m. CST
by Carl XVI Gustaf
Can't believe what I'm reading here. The Marvel movies seem to invoke that good old adventure movie feel and really brings back the feeling of reading the comics as a kid. GL on the other hand looks like a modern sci-fi superhero movie. Transformers crossed with that Will Smith superhero thing.
April 10, 2011, 2:59 a.m. CST
You do realize that you don't HAVE to see these films right? No one is forcing you.
April 10, 2011, 3 a.m. CST
I just saw your second post.
April 10, 2011, 3:29 a.m. CST
We found him. We finally found him.. Now let´s get some of those great books turned into great movies. The Jack Reacher character is a great one. Tough, smart, fearless and takes no shit from anyone. A real throwback in the mold of John Wayne. (Only bigger). None of that touchy-feely modern hero stuff. Reacher kicks ass. Now put it on screen...
April 10, 2011, 4:57 a.m. CST
...surely we Brits need to make this into a film? Beat the Yanks at their own game!
April 10, 2011, 5:08 a.m. CST
Hopefully the time will come, when Thor shoves the controls into a nose-dive! ultimate warrior is the son of our mighty thor and christian bale's professionalism. thor will not reign supreme as the power of parallax and hydra will be too much for the force of nature time!!! mimicman speaks
April 10, 2011, 7:33 a.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
I don't know, but from the short clip we've seen and how its described above, it sounds like an afterthought. Hawkeye comes in, dangles above the action in a separate shot holding his bow and arrow and does nothing, and has no effect on the scene or action.
April 10, 2011, 10:17 a.m. CST
That puts my ass in a seat right there.
April 10, 2011, 10:22 a.m. CST
are worried about the tone of the film, what with all the humor that seems to be force feeded into many scenes. But it's Kenneth Branagh directing--aren't people the least bit curious about watching him work his movie magic on a comic book movie, given his extensive Shakespeare background? I mean, Branagh was fantastic as an actor in Othello, and his rendition of Hamlet was a bit hammy, but very serviceable. I'm going to end up watching this regardless of how bad the reviews are just because he's the director.
April 10, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST
"....would have been awesome as thor. DLR would have brought the house down in that role. " That's the stupidest idea I've heard in a long time. "This is the same board that said Avatar would be a failure. " Avatar was a failure...on the part of Jim Cameron. It's an overlong, boring treehugger shitfest. "Thor and Captain America both look shitty" You know what they say about opinions. "Clay Matthews IS Thor. " Obviously not. @darth_ghidorah85 Lay off the drugs, son, there's no future in it.
April 10, 2011, 11 a.m. CST
I'm only on the second of the Reacher books, but Helmsworth could be a good Reacher. Although he is supposed to be 37 years old at the start of the books. I always picture a slightly younger Dolph Lundgren. And if you like the Reacher book, take a look at the Mitch Rapp boooks by Vince Flynn. Rapp is an even bigger badass than Reacher. Manu Bennett would make the perfect Mitch Rapp BTW, but the studio is likely to go with a bigger name like Gerard Butler. As for Thor, I am holding out hope that the stupid comedy shit is only a small part of the film, and that it will kick all sorts of ass. Green Lantern looks a little better with the newest footage, but I still think they made a mistake with Reynold, although i like him in other things. Fillion would have killed it as Hal Jordan. Captain America is the one I look forward to the most this summer. Hope it doesn't let me down. I have faith in Joss Whedon's handling of the Avenegers only because of Firefly's ensemble, and how great they worked together. Lets hope he can capture that lightning again.
April 10, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST
Hey.. I´ll check out Mitch Rapp. Thanks. Hugh Jackman has been mentioned in connection with a Jack Reacher movie. Good actor. Not big enough. Reachers physical intimidation is a big part of his persona. I have also thought of a younger dolph for the part (yeah). But that will never happen.. Hope they consider Helmsworth.. (Which I mispelled earlier)..
April 10, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST
but this dude ain't Robert Downey. The big monster dude at the end of the trailer is kinda cool, though. Maybe this won't be as awful as we now all expect. Maybe?
April 10, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST
I know all the cool Talkbackers have decided to be negative about the film, but I think it looks great, and my wife and I cannot wait to see it in the theater. Great cast, great director, and something new from Marvel for once. :)
April 11, 2011, 3:27 a.m. CST
Whoa dude, a football comment on AICN? What Bizarro nerdsite universe have I stumbled into? Can Jared Allen be Heimdall? Not the movie version, of course, but you know what I mean. The NFC North is (literally) full of Vikings.
April 11, 2011, 3:35 p.m. CST
.....granted maybe 30 years ago would be better than 20, but still....he had the hair for the role, and when you get down to it, that's all that matters when you are talking thor.... the goldilocks just gotta be right. and anyone doubting the acting ability of DLR just check out the video for "California girls" or even "yankee rose" the man is obviously a professional. <p> P.S. anyone taking me seriously should punch themselves in the gonads so they can not reproduce. then again, anyone looking forward to a thor movie will probably never get a chance to reproduce anyway....so all is well.
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