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Duncan Jones meeting on WOLVERINE?!?
Hey folks, Harry here... Just got a message from one of my followers on Twitter - about a SOURCE CODE Q&A in London that Duncan Jones did, where he stated that he has a meeting with Fox coming up regarding the possibility of him taking over WOLVERINE in lieu of Aronofsky's departure. That said, apparently the MOON & SOURCE CODE director feels like he would rather do his own original sci fi script next, but is taking the meeting more or less to explore options and be polite.
SO - what do you think of the director of SOURCE CODE and MOON taking on WOLVERINE in Japan? Personally, I have lost a lot of interest in the project since Aronofsky's departure. I mean. My heart still feels a bit broken over losing that pairing.
Harry
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MOON's @manmademoon meeting on Wolverine!?
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Doug Jones directed Moon and Source Code? I think not.
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DOUG Jones is that really tall guy who wears a lot of prosthetics in Guillermo Del Toro movies. Tome to cut back on the painkiller.
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Oh come now, brother. You are meant to be the movie geek in the family!
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They just don't care enough to make good things happen.
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April 9, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST
Be sure to get a great second unit director - then he'll be okay
by Mennen
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BRAIN FART - Duncan Jones - obviously. My brain is just always thinking of the lovely Doug Jones
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I'm sure he meant Duncan Jones. Or I could be wrong. What do I know?
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But Jones would be a suitable replacement. I feel like he's been itching to get a superhero movie and he'll do it well. But Aronofsky's Wolverine....man, that would have been the stuff of legend.
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My initial impulse was, "Oh, who could Doug Jones play in 'Wolverine'?" <click> "Wha--? They're going to give the guy a shot at directing? Wait, why would Doug Jones be at a 'Source Code' Q&A...? Oh, I see what happened here." MASSIVE MOVIE NERD FAIL. That said, while I like Duncan Jones, anybody at all here is a step down from Aronofsky. Never been so disappointed in a director's departure from a project.
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April 9, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST
Please just get someone who has a great track record and not some crappy music video director
by tommyleespenis
like Gavin Hood
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but I don't want him to do Wolverine. Superman, yes - his films are imbued with the heart that character requires - but I'd rather see him continue to make original films than get screwed around by Fox. Anybody who doesn't have the calibre/experience of a Nolan/Fincher/Cameron, etc will just get fucked over and be forced into making a derivative piece of shit. My interest in The Wolverine effectively died with Aronofsky's departure. This news is pretty old though. It's been around for a couple of weeks that Jones and David Slade are being approached.
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I mean, being out of country and away from his family? Sounds kinda lame. Just shoot the damned thing against green screens like SIN CITY, could've made it look just like Japan without leaving the country at all...
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Been waiting for him to take on a superhero, and this seems perfect, but perhaps too much like Kill Bill. But it would certainly shake things up.
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Seriously, Matt Dillon would make an interesting Punisher with white glove, and boots as well.
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Will she be in it? If yes, then it doesn't matter who directs. I'm there! ZOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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April 9, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST
What about a WOLVERINE movie directed by Duncan Hines, Harry? Will that make you better?
by MrMysteryGuest
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I think he probably walked because Fox wouldn't give him the freedom he desired and, more importantly, deserved.
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Neither Moon or Source Code have done exceptionally well while being quality films. Attaching himself to a major studio can get stuff done for himself that would be a pain otherwise. If he shows he can put out a commercial product from time to time, they'll be more than happy to fund his babies.
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April 9, 2011, 5:07 p.m. CST
Really wish "fuck you, my dad is david bowie" would get the studios off his back
by BlaGyver
That way he could do his thing. Alas...
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otherwise there would be too much melodrama and angst versus kick ass action and Wolverine mythology...Aronofsky is not known for making good action movies...The Fountain was so boring I shut it off after 10 minutes...The Wrestler was decent enough...have no interest in Black Swan until it shows up on HBO
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The interviewer asked Duncan Jones if he was "interested in Wolverine" as a teasing question. Jones evaded the question saying that he'd better not say too much, other than he found Wolverine to be more interesting than Batman.<P>This question was probably based on Jones posting a picture through Twitter of himslef wearing a Wolverine t-shirt with the caption "This doesn't mean anything, I just like the t-shirt.." (or something like that). Jones was evasive enough to make it sound as if talks were happening.<P>More interesting (to me) was a fan asking a question based on a previous statement by Jones that he would be interested in doing a sequel to Moon, following up on what happened to the Sam Bell clone(s) afterwards. Jones said that he knew the answer was cryptic, but that he was working on that idea - but it would not happen in movie form.
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Jones is overrated IMO
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Jones is young and talented. His time to get kicked in the balls and his faith in movies as an art form to be broken and raped by a moronic black hole of buttfuckery like FOX has not yet arrived. He has not yet shown the signs of lazy, taint-licking "competence" that FOX prefers in it's hacks-for-hire. Nay, his way is yet clear to produce some good stuff, before those motherfuckers try to drag him down.
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As much as I'd like to see Wolvie in Japan why don't they just go with an alternative script for now.
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You know it works.
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...but here goes: Logan, Mariko Yashida, Lord Shingen, Viper, Silver Samurai, The Hand, Yukio. It writes it's fucking self. What do you monkeys find so hard, eh?
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Really like the idea of Duncan Jones, but think that if he just makes his own sci-fi flicks instead of contributing to the glut of comic book movies that are all starting to feel the same, the world will be a better place.
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Like so many others, I fell in love with "Moon"s somber, hard sci-fi badassery. Was really, really looking forward to Jones's next directorial effort, especially after reading the early plot details for "Source Code." Then the footage started coming out, and I don't know... it all just looked, so... glossy? Conventional? I know the reviews have been pretty solid, but none of the advertising convinced me to run out and buy a ticket, and I'll probably ultimately only see it on DVD. Perplexing. As for "Wolverine"... I had no interest at all after Hood's "Origins." Then Aronofsky got attached, and my interest level went up 2 or 3 points. Now, I'm back to simply not caring. I'm not an X-Men devotee, and I think the comic has oversaturated the market a bit, so I'm fine if they shelve it for awhile.
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Channel 4 is the UK just showed a special about Source Code, and Duncan was interviewed wearing a Wolverine T-shirt with Japanese writing on it - fact!
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i saw moon, was decent, but nothing amazing...i simply dont get the cum guzzling love this guy gets...Source Code was also decent, nothing memorable.
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April 9, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST
nathan fillion as aronofsky as director of wolverine!!!!!!!!
by vulturess
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12A don't exist in this American dojo, goddammit. =P
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I dug "Moon" a lot, but doesn't he only have 2 films so far. I'd say jury is out. "Source Code" doesn't look too interesting to me. If the Gyllenhall character is selected for that mission, how much of a pro could he be to abandon it fir a broad. I guess I don't like the premise.
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Jones is a solid two for two with me right now. I thought the trailer for SOURCE CODE was weak and even the premise seemed un-stimulating. I went and saw it on the fact that Duncan Jones directed it because I loved MOON. Damn was I pleasantly surprised! Awesome movie that evokes some nice thoughts about parallel universes and alternate realities. Very cool if you enjoy pondering those types of things... So yeah, I hope Jones passes so we might have another original idea come to life instead of a rehash of a know character or idea. We are lucky to be getting some solid sci-fi for the past couple of years and I know it won't last long so the more the better while its happening.
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Agreed on Jones doing his own stuff, keep him away from other peoples shit.
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...which isn't a bad thing if Duncan Jones wants to do a much bigger film (which shouldn't be a problem after SOURCE CODE, methinks). Though, what I liked about SC was that it had a perfect sense of scale (using basically only three settings).
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the first film was not all that good and I'm baffled that they want to make another. Leave it be Duncan, do your own thing. Don't let a shitty franchise kill your career!
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i'm out of here. see you on the otherside, sooner than you think
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I REALLY liked Moon, I saw Source Code yesterday and was disappointed. I hope his next film gets back that Barton Fink feeling. I don't think Wolverine would be that film.
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April 9, 2011, 9:51 p.m. CST
I'd like to see Edward Zwick direct the Wolverine in Japan story
by antonphd
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I wouldn't wish a Wolverine movie on any young promising director. Not after what happened with the first Wolverine. I wouldn't want to see them stop their momentum in it's tracks. However, if Duncan Jones wants to direct Wolverine I'm certainly for it because I love his first 2 films and I could see him doing Logan as the reluctant introverted anti-hero that he is.
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April 9, 2011, 10:38 p.m. CST
How is it polite to do this (I don't understand the politics of Entertainment)
by TheJudger
Someone calls you in, wants to give you an offer to direct something. You show up and say no. That's like someone inviting you to dinner and you show up but you don't eat anything. Yes? No? I am confused. Is he going to this dinner metaphor to clear their meal off the table and put his down instead. I say you take Wolverine to Paul Verhoeven and you make it R. Let Paul do whatever he wants with it.
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April 9, 2011, 11:14 p.m. CST
aronofsky left wolverine bc they wouldn't give him creative control
by Billy_D_Williams
not that bullshit PR "family" excuse so what makes you think they're gonna give creative control to Jones or anybody else? this movie is going to suck no matter who makes it
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April 9, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST
billy_d_williams -aronofsky was never going to direct Wolverine
by antonphd
i love aronofsky's films and i was excited for him to direct a wolverine film, but i was just counting down for him to back out of the film. he can't do commercial without selling himself out. there's simply no way. he probably wants to make a commercially successful film so he can keep making films and maybe get decent budgets for them, but i don't think he's got commercial film making in him. and that's not a bad thing at all. but i think he did everyone a favor by getting his head out of the clouds and leaving the film with time for the production to start over instead of mid filming. i think he's an honorable guy. he did the right thing leaving. and he probably did it mostly for his friend, Hugh, who's career is basically founded on the commercial success of wolverine films.
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...is being marketed very poorly. The trailers and commercials don't really do it justice. They make it look a little more run-of-the-mill then is. I think it lacks the novelty of Moon, but is definitely a step above most sci-fi. Some very interesting ideas. For all of those bitching about his popularity, what's not to like about a young director who brings fresh, new ideas to the table? Regardless of whether they're sci-fi or not, in this time of remakes and sequels, originality deserves a little credit.
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Better of looking at John McTiernan or Sly Stallone. D.Jones is an original film director. I hope he stays that way.
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Would that be the same Aronofsky who gave us the horribly self-indulgent and utterly nonsensical THE FOUNTAIN? He's off the WOLVERINE project? Good.Why not bring back the guy who did the first one? It wasn't perfect but it sure wasn't all that bad either.
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April 10, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST
Aronofsky's departure was the single most disapointing news in comic movie history
by LowDevil
I will never see The Wolverine now, even if Ridley were to direct. Enough with Del Toro everybody. Jesus. Thats everyones answer all the time. He was perfect for the Hobbit but not so much for comics. Hellboy was just OK at best lets face it. FUCK IM STILL SO FUCKING PISSED ABOUT THIS.
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April 10, 2011, 2:30 a.m. CST
Jones would be hamstrung by Fox. He's too talented for them.
by Dennis_Moore
Rothman wouldn't even let Wolvie smoke in Origins (there is one scene with an unlit stogie, and the disc has an anti smoking PSA on it). Unless they offer him money for Mute in exchange for directing. Disney should just buy back the X-Men and Jackman's deal.
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April 10, 2011, 3:01 a.m. CST
Maybe this means that they are scuttling the Japan centric script and going for another Wolverine story?
by dailysportspages
With the devastation in Japan and all... Duncan Jones doing Wolverine makes me think that they might want a more sci-fi take on Wolverine. What better than to riff off of Days of Future Past? Wolverine is bigger and noticeably older, his healing factor not working as well as it used to. He lives like a hermit in the wilderness, or possibly reverting a bit to a more animistic feral nature. He is recruited by a group of young mutants who only have stories of Wolverine "the last of the great X-Men". They convince him to help them fix their present by taking down Sinister, his Sentinels, rescuing Forge and a slew of other mutants being used as Sinisters test subjects, and using Forges time machine to go back and set things right. Which is to stop the premature death of Professor Xavier at the hands of Magneto before there ever was an X-Men. This group of New Mutants calls themselves X-Force. And they are comprised of young mutants Domino, Wolfsbane, Warpath, and seasoned veterans Shadowcat, Forge, and Cable. Bishop as a prominent role working for Sinister as leader of his new Marauders, but he has a change of heart at a key moment and helps free Forge. Cameo by a very old Gambit who gives Wolverine a bit of advice. Wolverine goes back in time, sacrifices himself to save Xavier, but has his adamantium bone coating removed by Magneto. This causes Wolverines healing factor to go into overdrive, apparently the years of adamantium exposure had slowly weakened his healing factor and thus allowed him to age and weaken much more than in the past. The adamantium also inhibited his more feral mutation, now without it Wolverine was temporarily made bigger and stronger, as well as even more bloodthirsty in his fighting. To the point of nearly killing Magneto. But at the last moment Xavier is able to reach Wolverine telepathically and subdues his rage, allowing Magneto to escape. Xavier then counsels Wolverine for a time, trying to help him cope with his issues... but ultimately Wolverine refuses Xaviers offer to stay at the Mansion and decides to go find himself in the far east.
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harry it's your brother, garry! Jar Jar Abrams Trek sucks Stargate is better than lost, battlestar galactica, and x-files all combined into a nice, shiny package. so take that package, shine it up even more, turn it sideways, AND STICK IT STRAIGHT UP YOUR CANDY ASS!!! mimicman
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Why does Aronofsky get so much hype? I'm not against him at all but I don't think him being off the project is the end of days for Wolverine. I remember his treatment for his attempted Batman year one movie. If that had been made it would've been the death of Batman movies full stop. I mean, among other things, turning Alfred into a mechanic and calling him big Al? Not cool.
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I'd love to see that. I think it's a better fit than Wolverine.
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fincher. fox and fight club. and aronofski is a very intense filmmaker who makes films about the darkside of human nature.
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...as much as I love X-Men/Wolverine he shows way too much promise to waste his talent on a franchise. Look what it did to Lucas! Such an amazing filmmaker at the outset who should have stopped after the first Star Wars (yes, I'm in that minority who thinks the SW universe never needed expanding beyond the first classic and left the cinema completely disappointed by TESB).
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but before you fanboys scream at me, its because of the shitty shitty scripts - his direction doesnt even register with me - he points the camera at stuff like any director would, nothing flashy but i wont have a go at him for it. but the scripts to the last two were rubbish. if wolverine has a good script then hes a good choice.
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There is no other reason to see the movie in the end than Darron Aronofsky doing it. Just recycle the establishing shots from Lost In Translation and shoot the rest in New York. Aronofsky gets nights and weekends with his wife and baby, nobody sets foot near radioactive land, problem solved.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t77qraoPAFg After this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9otgbPiQBI
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Whatever you may have thought of Gavin Hood's X-Men film, to call him a music video director is to sell him short. The man directed a foreign film call Tsotsi (which I believe won an Oscar) was well as others. Check out this link: http://bit.ly/g86KhT Gavin Hood has a relatively decent amount of work under his belt, so at least give him some credit. Btw, personally I would blame Wolverine's failures on the writers and Fox. It appears to me that Gavin Hood worked with what he had, which appears to me to have been writing that didn't respect the character's origins or (very vocal) fan base. And everyone knows Fox's meddling in the affairs of the directors they hire is almost legendary.
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Gotta agree with you when you say not mentioning Guillermo del Toro for Wolverine, but not for your reasons, which are bollocks. Guillermo del Toro GETS genre, which Wolverine falls neatly into. Take a look a Blade 2 sometime. The man can film fight scene like nobody's business, though look at also how he also stays faithful to the character. This is because he understands what Blade is all about, and respects the intelligence of the fans (if you doubt this, listen to some of his commentary tracks sometimes. I suspect no director works harder to be faithful to a character). Currently he has too much on his plate–plus I hope he continues to lobby for Mountains of Madness–but if he were to somehow get his hands on Wolverine, it would be quite possibly the best thing that could happen for the film.
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April 10, 2011, 9:57 a.m. CST
I knew he'd be on a comic book project sooner rather than later. Good news.
by Mr Nicholas
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for christsake.
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As far as I am concerned Frank Miller is the obvious successor to direct this film. And then let him take on Daredevil.
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The Spirit was hard to watch and now I can't remember any of it. And that Blue Screen Theatre stuff sucks.
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I do agree with you. I kind of wish Star Wars was by itself. As well as Raiders of the Lost Ark. I wish Willow never was.
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"but i don't think he's got commercial film making in him" I beg to differ: Black Swan...a dark, character driven psychological thriller made for $13 million dollars has grossed nearly $300 million worldwide. Of course it was boosted by Portman's performance and oscar but this type of phenomenon is very rare. he definitely has commercial instincts...those types of movies simply do not make that kind of money by themselves...aronofsky tapped into something and maybe even invented a new genre of film...
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without the lesbo shit. come on.
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April 10, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST
"in lieu of Aronofsky's departure?" Don't you mean "in light of?"
by Dan
For a website run by "geeks" the spelling and grammar in these posts is pretty atrocious.
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jesus, havent people ever heard the term "movie magic"...newsflash: many films are not filmed in the same location as the setting of the movie.
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'Nuff said. I cannot emphasize this man's sentiment enough, for it crystalizes what many of us think and how we feel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t77qraoPAFg
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Mr. Williams, The movie being shot in Japan was Aronofsky's rationale for leaving the project. Sir, it is an honor to speak with you on this forum. Your accomplishments in the fields of music, theatre and cinema have inspired a generation.
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This is the press release: “It became clear that the production of The Wolverine would keep me out of the country for almost a year. I was not comfortable being away from my family for that length of time.” (The film was reportedly going to be set in Japan.) “I am sad that I won’t be able to see the project through,” continued Aronofsky, “as it is a terrific script and I was very much looking forward to working with my friend, Hugh Jackman, again.” Twentieth Century Fox echoed Aronofsky’s regret: “While we are of course disappointed that Darren can’t do The Wolverine, we also understand and respect his reasons … Hugh Jackman and Fox both remain fully committed to making The Wolverine. We will regroup and move forward aggressively.” Nowhere does it say it aronofsky left because it was shooting in Japan...he said he didn't want to be our of the country for that long (which is BS...he knew he'd be gone when he read the script and signed on)... im not saying it WONT shoot in Japan, it could be shooting in Japan, but nowhere is it specified as to WHERE they would shoot the movie, only that it is SET in Japan and Japan has been shot as other locations in the past. For instance, movies set in New York often shoot in Toronto.
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Exactly, good sir. Aronofsky lives in New York, so there is no reason why he had to jump ship and bail on us. New York could be Tokyo.
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I hope your right dude. I dont dislike the man, i absolutely love Pan's but i didnt like Hellboy at all. Just as long as they treat this as a stand alone epic. Rather him than Frank tho.
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April 10, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST
"My dad is David Bowie but I don't want to talk about that. I'm my own man." "Ok, we can respect that. What's your movie about?" "It's about a lonely astronaut in space."
by thecomedian
Duncan Jones should just do a remake of "The Man Who Fell To Earth" and be done with it.
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Hands down the greatest rock artist we've ever had
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Duncan Jones is too good for this sort of film. I'd rather see him push for another non-franchise story of his own making, something that kicks ass and doesn't bow to Fox Asshole Guys (FAGs). "Wolverine" needs someone who's not a great thinker, who doesn't care if it's PG-13 and not R, and isn't a terribly good director. Mediocrity, in other words. Which Duncan Jones most certainly is not.
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And if Duncan Jones really wants to do his own thing we'd all be better of for it although its nice to know their not just going for the Crank guys or Alfonso Cuaron to fill in for Aronofsky in a superficial tapping of cross-overs in style-aesthetic or whatever. Now is not the time to give thoughts on Black Swan after finally seeing it.
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April 10, 2011, 6:47 p.m. CST
Really hoping Battle Cat is in the He Man movie...
by Jonas Earl James
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Jones developing a niche for himself and a shitty X-Men film isn't something he needs on his resume. Case in point: what's Gavin Hood up to these days?
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April 11, 2011, 2:52 a.m. CST
billy_d_williams - by commercial i mean shallow mindless popcorn movies
by antonphd
i don't think he has one of those movies in him
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I'm sure there is more to why he would go into a meeting than it's just polite, chances are he wants to make sure he has creative control and that the studio won't step in and tell him what to do, otherwise why would he direct a movie that he can't do his own thing with. I know if i directed any movie i would want total control before signing on to make something a studio wants, knowing fox and how they like to fuck up things i would go to a meeting tell them what they can and can't do in order for me to film and if they meet my proposal then i would take the job if not then i would decline. That's just my thought on why duncan jones would go to a meeting with fox
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April 11, 2011, 7:44 a.m. CST
Spurce Code is the 1st Unmissable film of 2011 ... I say YES!
by MontyBoy
For those who haven't seen Source Code, Go see it and then make judgment. Personally i'd much rather see Duncan Jones work with talent friendly Marvel Studios on one of their upcoming projects like Dr.Strange. In fact the best comic book fit for Duncan Jones would be The Sentry (but as far as i know Marvel have no plans for a film). I'm told McQuarrie's script based on Frank Miller's run is outstanding .... So why not? Give Jones the job and let's finally see the badass Wolverine we've all been itching for.
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"If Pitts. PA can be Gotham, NYC can be Tokyo!" No it's can't. Tokyo's my favourite city. I've been there time and again. I've also visited New York from time to time. The latter can NOT stand in for the former. Trust me on this.
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Really good movie. Go see it.
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...They need to do whatever it takes to buy these rights back from Fox
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Aronovsky is THE most overrated director of the current crop. Black Swan was unintentionally hilarious and retarded. And not fun retarded, Epic Retarded, like Showgirls, but just retarded retarded. R E T A R D E D ! It had some cool scenes, though, like the sex scene and the multiple scenes ripped off from Cronenberg and Satoshi Kon. (So, derivative AND retarded then.) I get why people liked it, though. It was hot to watch Kunis go down on Portman. And overblown, campy melodrama meltdowns are always fun in terms of the whole ironic distance / look-at-how-how-much-coke-I've-been-doing! milieu of the latenights. This Duncan Jones, on the other hand? He seems like he's got some talent. Now that's just based on Moon. I haven't seen Source Code, though I hear it's a mixed bag. But just based on Moon? I'd be interested in seeing a Duncan Jones helmed Wolverine movie.
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*ducks for cover*
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