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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with some big news to kick off the weekend courtesy of Heat Vision's Borys Kit

The surface news is that The Social Network's Josh Pence (who played the other Winklevoss brother against Armie Hammer) has been cast as Young Ra's Al Ghul in the upcoming The Dark Knight Rises. That's exciting, especially if you've watched the special features on The Social Network Blu and seen just how much Pence brought to the performance... he was much more than a stand-in for Armie Hammer's face.



But the real news is who he has been cast as, which gives credence to the rumors that Marion Cotillard is playing Thalia Al Ghul and fits in with what Gary Oldman has said about The Dark Knight Rises, that it brings Christopher Nolan's trilogy full circle.

Kit says that Pence's scenes will take place 30 years prior to the present day story.

So, there you have it, Bathead. What do you think?

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  • April 8, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST

    I think...

    by theDORK's great! And none of that juvenile "first" shit, either.

  • April 8, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST

    AICN fires its most annoying writer...

    by darthpigman

    Just wishful thinking.

  • April 8, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST

    With Liam Neeson's face painted over his

    by invisibo

  • April 8, 2011, 5:57 p.m. CST


    by Tarijeno

    This came out of left field.

  • April 8, 2011, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Am I wrong on this?

    by JuanSanchez

    I said over on /Film that he has to be playing young Ducard cause Ducard only took over the identity of R'as after R'as died. But people over there say he was the real R'as? Really?

  • April 8, 2011, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Harry can't fire himself.

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 8, 2011, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Is the Dark Knight Rises going to be 5 hours long?

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    Even if each of these new characters gets 15 minutes of screen time, we're pushing 3 hours.

  • April 8, 2011, 6 p.m. CST

    Lazarus Pit!

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    I hope there's not a Lazarus Pit, it doesn't really fit in with Nolan's vision... but there are ways around that.

  • April 8, 2011, 6 p.m. CST

    Could definitely pass for a younger Neeson.

    by WriteForTheEdit

    This next Batman is definitely shaping up more promisingly than Synder's Superman. (Lohan... I mean, for heaven's sake... *shakes head* )

  • April 8, 2011, 6 p.m. CST

    Young Ra's Al Ghul

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    For a second I thought you meant he would play a rejuvenated post-Lazarus Pit Ra's Al Ghul. Wouldn't that be out-of-character for Nolan, right? Pence actual resembles Neeson a bit, so good casting.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:03 p.m. CST

    This will be the longest Batman movie yet for sure.

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 8, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST

    I'm still not sold on Tom Hardy as Bane

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    I believe the character could work, but the actor's only, what, 5'9"? So a one-on-one fight with Batman is not going to look right. And I really doubt Nolan will use CG to make him look like a mountain of muscle if he uses venom. I just don't think Nolan will go there, which is almost a shame.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:05 p.m. CST

    I'll never see Social Network

    by Marat

    Stupid shit I don't care about. Yes I have a facebook. No, it's private, I never use it, and I'll probably close it eventually when one friend request from a friend of a friend finally pisses me off enough. Can't wait to see the next film about a social networking site, I'd rather watch a fucking film about Moot from 4chan, honestly.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST

    juansanchez, of course Ducard was the real R'as. Why would you think otherwise?

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Bruce Wayne is the real Batman. juansanchez, it's about duality, motivation and escalation. Did you watch the movie?

  • April 8, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST


    by Loosejerk

    Wait, that didn't come out right (that's what my father said).

  • April 8, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    R.I.P George Clooney... Dead Soon

    by Daniel2010

    1961-2011 For all his mistakes, he will pay...

  • April 8, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST


    by mukhtabi

    I suspect those will be flashback/memory scenes for Talia Al Ghul. That or she has a video taped message from her father when he was young. Take your pick. I agree with the above that the Lazarus Pits are a bit far fetched for Mr. Nolan.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Evil Archer

    by JuanSanchez

    I interpreted it as Ducard becoming R'as after R'as died - taking an alias like Wayne did. I don't feel like I was given any information to suggest Watanabe's R'as was a fake / decoy.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Is he why there doing some filming in Romania?

    by SnootyBoots

    Romania's probably just a good place to go to film on the cheap. But I've never been a comic book guy, don't know the character's story. Is there a reason why he'd be in Romania?

  • April 8, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST

    yeah good for you Marat

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    Never, EVER see an Oscar winning movie that everyone says is great because it's about something that you don't care about but kinda use anyway. And maybe there's characters and drama, but fuck all that shit.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST

    marat, the social network isnt even about facebook dumbass

    by Billy_D_Williams

    its practically a mcguffin for the could be facebook or mcdonald's or fucking wal-mart...the movie is about friendship, loyalty, capitalism, betrayal, the disparity between class, etc...its a damn fine film and you're really missing out.

  • I'm guessing a 2 hour 20 to 2 hour 40 min movie or so.

  • Don't get me wrong - it was very cool and the locations were outstanding, but it didn't feel right for Batman. Bruce Wayne didn't need other people to teach him how to be theatrical and use smoke bombs for pete's sake. The origin in Mask of the Phantasm worked better for me. So the idea of book-ending the franchise with R'as and possibly the League does not appeal to me.

  • and not too far from, "Please report this guy's IP address to the police."

  • April 8, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST

    @Juan: He was definitely Ra's Al Ghul the whole time.

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    When Ducard implied the immortality of Ra's Al Ghul, Bruce called it "cheap parlor tricks to hide your real identity, Ra's." (or something like that) So the real Ra's Al Ghul constantly used figureheads/decoys for the sake of deception and theatrics while he secretly ran the show posing as his own right hand man.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Bruce: Or cheap parlor tricks to hide your true identity, Ra's?

    by Larry Sellers

    Ra's: *nod*

  • April 8, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Sounds cool..

    by richievanderlow

    I like the throwback element news that came with this announcement, this guy seems fine to me.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST

    @Billy_D: I'm glad we agree on something. Let's have a Colt 45!

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    Also glad I didn't insult you too much in the last Arthur talkback.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Just completely missed it. My bad.

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 8, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    The League of Shadows worked for Batman Begins

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    Bruce Wayne did actually travel the world learning esoteric shit from all sorts of masters. I like that Ra's Al Ghul and the LOS were in the movie because they were last Batman foes you'd ever expect to see in a movie. Now I'll admit I don't really care to see them bookend the franchise either, but if they flesh out Talia (pun intended) and make they chemistry palpable, I'll give it a chance.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Thank you, Larry

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

  • April 8, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Bringing in most of the Inception cast ...


    Mistake?? .... Will it jarring and weird, or not a problem? ....... Would be interested in opinions.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Yeah, cocknasty, and he's ripping it off without your sense of humor.

    by WriteForTheEdit


  • It's like the comic books are treated as exaggerations or urban legends inspired by his version of the characters. That being said, I begrudgingly respect his vision of Batman's world because it's kicked serious ass so far. And when he's done, I totally support some other director/writer with his own style coming in to make non-connected stories. Or in hated terms: a REBOOT

  • Not looking forward to them in TDKR.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Ra's Al Ghul is BORING

    by 3D-Man

    Boring boring boring.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    ginge_muppet: not a problem.

    by WriteForTheEdit

    We buy actors working together in different movies a lot, and it's cool, generally. If DeCaprio and Ellen Page were to show up, then yeah, maybe that would be getting too weird...

  • with the classic Batman villains. It's Batman, for pete's sake - give me the Riddler or something. Bring back Two Face. Do something interesting.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:47 p.m. CST


    by Robert79797979

    Learn the difference between your and you're.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:47 p.m. CST

    stereotypical evil archer

    by my liege

    If the Lazarus Pit doesn't fit with Nolan's 'vision' then Nolan's vision ain't worth shit. How can Nolan be celebrated as a comic book movie messiah if he eliminates all the difficult stuff?

  • April 8, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    But why would Ra's Al Ghul look any younger?

    by mtoast

    He's basically immortal, so thirty years ago he'd look pretty much the same as now.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    i wonder...

    by JaredP

    if thalia will bare bruce wayne's son in the film like she did in the comics

  • April 8, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Way less exciting than the Joker

    by Fat and Curious

    Batman Begins is cool, but the movie lacks rewatchability because Liam Neeson just wasn't a very strong villain. People are going to expect something as epic in scope as TDK, and what we've heard of this so far just doesn't sound like it'll do it. I trust Nolan, but actually seeing The Dark Knight was as excited as I've ever been in a movie theater. Don't know if they can up the ante any more.

  • April 8, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    blow me Quint

    by Smack_Teddy

    Good news though

  • April 8, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    yes juansanchez

    by JaredP

    ducard was the real ras and the guy played by ken watanabe was an impostor

  • April 8, 2011, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Marat

    by MagnoliAB

    Social Network was about Facebook, and all your time spent on it fulfills any need you would have to see this movie.... You're a dumb ass.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST


    by Fat and Curious

    3D-Man summed it up even better than I could have

  • April 8, 2011, 7:06 p.m. CST

    my liege, "celebrated as a comic book movie messiah," I never said that.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    I did say, "there are ways around that." If there is a Lazarus Pit in a Nolan Batman movie, it won't be the comic book Lazarus Pit. Heck, R'as just having a legacy could be considered a Lazarus Pit.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:07 p.m. CST


    by my liege

    I feel it's worth reminding people that The Dark Knight Rises is a fucking awful title.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Hardy is going to be BAD ASS as Bane

    by zooch

    Go watch Bronson. If it's anything like that, they we are going to have another Oscar nominated villain in this series.

  • The Dark Knight had a bunch of villains; Joker and Two Face but also had Eric Roberts and the mob, that Chinese guy, and a brief appearance by Scarecrow.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:14 p.m. CST

    I thought that

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    ...Ra's was immortal? He's been living for hundreds of years via rejuvenated youth from the Lazarus Pit; why would they need a young version of him for? Granted, you could make the argument that Nolan's version of Ra's isn't immortal at all, but Ra's himself hinted as much when he said "But is Ra's al Ghul immortal? Are his methods. . .supernatural?" And then the whole bit about how the League of Shadows has existed throughout the ages trying to eliminate the criminal element. It definitely seemed like a heavy handed reference to Ra's being the Lazarus Pit enhanced comic book version of Ra's. But yeah, no idea what the young version of Ra's would be doing in this film.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    juansanchez, you're still being blinded by the "cheap parlor tricks."

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Re-watch the Batman Begins.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST

    You guys are forgetting: Ra's still ages normally.

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    It's when he gets too old or injured that he has to take a dip in the Pits. So a flashback to when he was younger does not go again the canon. He may have recently rejuvenated himself. Assuming Nolan leaves the immortality angle ambigious at best.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:29 p.m. CST

    See what you've done, cockstank_buttnasty

    by Bobo_Vision

    You opened the floodgates of douchebaggery. Posting on talkbacks comes with responsibility.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST

    I don't like the the League of Shadows

    by zooch

    It all seemed so far-fetched, in what was supposed to be a film trying to stay grounded in reality. TDK had no mention of it and took the realistic angle to whole other level. I was hoping they would again take to another level with an even MORE gritty realistic detective style film, but now it just seems like they are going backwards.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:35 p.m. CST

    I really hope Tom Hardy pulls it off.

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    I heard he was great in Bronson. He sure looks mean as a motherfucker if google photos from that movie. I'm just afraid he's not going to look imposing at all when you put him in scene with Bale, who is 2 (maybe 3) inches taller. Even in Nolan's world, it's realistic to have huge guys who dwarf Batman. I'm just disappointed they didn't go that route.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Archetypes of Evil

    by Henry Fool

    Heath Ledger did a magnificent job as the Joker. So did Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent. But I think Liam Neeson's work in the first film is my favorite performance from a villain in any Batman film. His motives for becoming the kind of man he did were fascinating.<br /> <br /> There was a good thematic contrast between the Rhas Al Ghul, Scarecrow, the Joker and Two Face. R.A.G. wanted to do a horrible thing because he thought it would bring about a good result. The Joker did horrible things because he didn't care about any morality and only wanted to expose the innate, petty hypocrisy that exists at the base selves of most people. Two Face just wanted to completely surrender to chaos and let chance decide everything. And Scarecrow believed that you could only see who a person truly was when they're experiencing overwhelming terror. Each of these characters resonated in a mythic way. In this sense, it's good that none of them will appear in more than one film (besides Cillian Murphy's brief Dark Knight cameo). If elaborated on further, they might lose their edge as archetypes of evil.<br /> <br /> This being the finale for a trilogy, it's appropriate that the third film has strong ties to the the first. The League of Shadows must have had heirs who weren't too happy about Bruce taking down their leader (or at least leave him to die in a train crash). I've never read any of the Batman books that feature Thaliah al Ghul but she seems like an intriguing character. Ironically, Marion Cotillard was my top choice for Catwoman. I'm just glad she's going to be in the thing. She's a truly radiant screen presence<br /> <br /> Since the Joker was originally supposed to appear in TDKR, I get sentimental thinking about how they'll give the character a proper denouement. I'll always wonder what the film would have been like had Heath Ledger lived to appear in it. He was a major talent who will probably be remembered as the James Dean of our generation.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Hell, Tiny "Zeus" Lister was in TDK and he's 6'6"!

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    Seriously, put him next to Batman. He could've played Killer Croc!

  • April 8, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Not too many new characters..

    by NADO

    If you think that Rachel, Maroni, Dent, Joker and all the minor characters like Chechen, Lau and Engel are all gone, you can fit in half a dozen new characters with as much screen time as those. Rachel= Thalia Al Ghul, Dent= Catwoman, Joker= Bane, Maroni= Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Lau= Young Ra's Al Ghul, etc..

  • April 8, 2011, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Good points, Henry Fool!

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    I kind of thought of the Scarecrow as a pure sadist hiding behind an educated veneer. I personally would be happy seeing Two-Face appear in TDKR. He wasn't really done justice in the last movie.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Maybe young Ra's was once a crime fighter like Bruce

    by zooch

    But soon realized he wasn't really solving the world's problems and all of it was meaningless, which is why he formed the League of Shadows. Maybe Bruce is feeling similar to that in this film.

  • April 8, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST


    by thecheesegrommit

    You should not be proud nor upset that daniel2010 (if indeed you are not he) Stole such an atrocious gag from you. I've grown increasingly disturbed by this to the point where I will bring this to the attention of some "government friends" to investigate. I think Mr. Knowles will have some requests made shortly regarding this matter. There is such a pervasive stupidity amongst so many young people.

  • April 8, 2011, 8:07 p.m. CST

    "Nolan's vision" = no Lazarus pits?

    by catlettuce4

    So... if Nolan DOES include the Lazarus Pits in this movie, is it still not something that fits his "vision?" Or are we allowed to amend what we know his "vision" to be? Hilarious... let's hold him to the first movie now, and never let him add to or change what is possible in his universe! Not that I think he will use them, but Christ, some of you geeks really make me wonder what's going on in your heads... This news is interesting, but makes me seriously wonder what could be relevant enough 30 years prior to warrant showing in the film. Don't tell me there will be a scene in the past just to show Talia being born. Could there be something more to it than that? Or unusual circumstances of her birth, or alliances of Ra's Al Ghul?? I'm really curious to see what they are up to with this movie, but it does seem like there are getting to be a lot of characters. Hope it all works out well.

  • April 8, 2011, 8:13 p.m. CST

    huey_freemans_afro: Same thing i was thinking.

    by Playkins

  • April 8, 2011, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Rise of the Batman's Dark Knight Beginnings

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Thankfully whatever this is, it will be the end of that "realistic" Bat(e)man trash.

  • April 8, 2011, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Oh, would people just STFU!

    by Troy McNamara

    Seriously?! Too many villains?! In Batman Begins, you had Henri Ducard/Ra's al Ghul as the main villain who was very prominent in the beginning and the end, Scarecrow as the secondary villain who was more prominent in the middle section who worked as an unseen partner for Ra's, Carmine Falcone as the tertiary villain who represented the Mob's influence in Gotham, William Earle as the dirty sleazebag behind Wayne Enterprises, Detective Flass to illustrate the corrupt influence in the Gotham Police Department, the corrupt Judge Faden, Victor Zsasz in a cool wink-and-nod cameo, Joe Chill, and the Ra's al Ghul decoy serving as the antagonists! That makes NINE villains in a Batman film and none of you fuckers complain about that! In The Dark Knight, you had The Joker as the main villain despite the fact that he's only in the movie for a total of 30-45 minutes (even though his presence is felt throughout the film), Harvey Dent/Two-Face who is the secondary villain due to being created by The Joker and it's very much about his tragic story, Sal Maroni as the tertiary villain being the face of the Mob once again, Lau & the Chechen who are the secondary mobster characters, Anna Ramirez & Michael Wuertz as the corrupt GCPD officers, Coleman Reese as the greedy and manipulative pawn dealing with Wayne Enterprises, Gambol as a brief mobster character, the prison inmate who disarms the prisoner ferry, and Scarecrow coming back for the classic Batman villain wink-and-nod cameo! Now, we're up to ELEVEN villains in one Batman film and a lot of you fuckers let that amount of people slide too! So now that you people are bitching about Chris Nolan putting too many villains into a Batman movie after he had such amazing success with Batman Begins, Dark Knight, and Inception and completely writing off this movie is just so butt-fucking retarded that it's just pathetic and sad really! We'll have the main villain (probably Bane), the secondary villain (probably Catwoman), the tertiary villain for the Mob (possibly someone like Alberto Falcone), the classic Batman villain wink-and-nod cameo (probably a young Ra's al Ghul in this case), and chances are we'll soon see a couple more corrupt police officials, possibly a judge, and whatever other characters Nolan decides to put in! Whatever happened to "In Nolan We Trust"?! Because it seems like I'm only one of the few who's willing to go with it especially after all the brilliant films he's made! Now, if you're deciding to hate everything because that will get your giddiness to a more acceptable level, I must say bravo! If you're being serious about your bitching, then just shut the fuck up!

  • April 8, 2011, 8:28 p.m. CST

    they gotta bring Winklevoss face into TDKR too!

    by Tigger Tales

  • April 8, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST

    I agree. Stop the bitching. The villian ratio is fine.

    by Huey_Freemans_afro

    He's going to team up with Catwoman anyway. You know this.

  • April 8, 2011, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Everytime I read "In Nolan we trust" somewhere

    by Flummage

    ...I feel like my chances of having sexytime with a ladywoman again fall 0.43%. Sometimes I hate the interputers.

  • April 8, 2011, 8:55 p.m. CST

    I hope they get Sam Raimi after Nolan for the reboot!

    by bat725

    Give me a director that isn't afraid to use villains that require a little bit of imagination. Imagine Man-Bat, Killer Croc, or Clayface as the villain, with someone like Sam Raimi at the helm. Raimi's Spider-Man movies have the best super-hero action sequences, hands down. I'd love to see a Batman flick done that way. Oh, yeah. We might get an accurate Batman costume as a bonus. You can have his traditional costume be his armor, as well. You do know that, right Nolan? Have you seen any of the recent video games? Ah, forget it.

  • April 8, 2011, 9:02 p.m. CST

    flummage everytime I read it

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    I think yeah a little geeky, but with a lot truth behind it. For me the guy has yet to really put a foot wrong, I would say if some wrote "In the Coen Brothers we trust", that would be the same for me (though not a fan of Ladykillers & Intolerable Cruelty), but they have been doing it for longer

  • April 8, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    writefortheedit - WHAT? LOHAN????

    by David Cloverfield

    I've been out of the loop lately (a shit ton of work) so you're post is my first exposure to the "Lohan in Man of Steel" information... I googled it... What the fuck is going on in Snyder's head? I loved Sucker Punch to bits... I thought the DOTD remake is at least as good as the original... I loved his take on Watchmen... but I can't really imagine a role for Lohan in Superman. Maybe Cat Grant, but still... She brings so much baggage to a role. Why put her anywhere near the Man of steel? Maybe Snyder sees something I don't, but this feels like a terrible idea.

  • April 8, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST

    The most snore-worthy version of Batman ever.

    by jedimast3r

    The only way this could be good is if they were keeping it silent that Neeson will be back, and there is a Lazarus-Pit-centric storyline. <p>Otherwise, I'll be waiting for Netflix, seeing as how this will be 3D and like $15 a ticket for essentially what will be disappointment. I know, I know, I sound whiny; but I like the idea of Batman in his natural element - what makes him special is that he is an extraordinary man - hero - amongst metahumans.

  • April 8, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST

    would love to see Verhoven's Batman

    by Billy_D_Williams

    can u imagine? the batshit energy Verhoven brings would be perfect the insane batshit Wayne/Batman

  • April 8, 2011, 9:18 p.m. CST

    HATE HATE HATE BS trash fuck this turd of a movie!!!

    by qjinx

    Ha! Just kidding...I actually love it and looking forward to it....I just wanted to know what it feels like to be part of the usual angry for no reason, swearing off the movie before they've even seen it, AICN talkback crowd. Lemme tell feels pretty shallow lighten up people, they're just fucking movies

  • April 8, 2011, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Tom Hardy - Bronson

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    its great, he is brilliant, just fucking watch it

  • April 8, 2011, 9:19 p.m. CST

    David Cloverfield... I think Lohan is pure rumor

    by darthSaul666

    She was rumored to be in Spider-man 3 as Firestar.... Yep I guess what's left of her entourage is scrambling to keep her from disappearing into media apathy...

  • April 8, 2011, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Is this a gay pron?

    by _Venkman

  • April 8, 2011, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Hmm I dunno about R'as bookends

    by smudgewhat

    I mean I'm sure it'll be fun but it does feel a little rehashy. Rehashishy?

  • April 8, 2011, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Has to be Talia resurrecting/rejuvenating her father

    by performingmonkey

    A Voldemort-style resurrection in a cauldron!!!

  • April 8, 2011, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Battrivia...Ducard is not Ra's in comics

    by darthSaul666

    Ducard was a Scotland Yard officer who taught Bruce Wayne how to be a detective... BB amalgamated the characters probably to save screen time or something

  • April 8, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Yes!. And don't worry about a Lazarus pit in the Nolanverse

    by Chain

    It will probably be some clone. one imprinted with Ra's memories. This is going to rock.

  • April 8, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Too many characters.

    by imagin78

    Will all these characters be as uninteresting as the ones in Inception?

  • April 8, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST

    An Addendum to My Original Comment!

    by Troy McNamara

    Now, personally I'm not that big a fan of the term "In ______ We Trust" (but I don't hate it either) however I'm using it because it should be people's proper reaction to everything associated with this movie and a lot of these people complaining really pisses me off especially when a lot of these people seem to love all or most of Nolan's films and so forth. Secondly, I'm so happy at this piece of news because of the fact that it's Josh Pence playing a younger Ra's al Ghul! This is the best thing to happen to his character beside the very highly doubtful possibility of Liam Neeson coming back as the character in the present day Gotham. I mean, Pence REALLY got shafted for his work as Tyler Winklevoss in The Social Network practically because his face and voice weren't to be seen or heard (except in a cameo where he plays a college student who encounters Mark & Eduardo outside the bathroom after the "groupie scene"). It's Armie Hammer out of the Winklevi actors who is getting all the press and all the big offers including J. Edgar with DiCaprio and Eastwood (which is well deserved but still for the longest time I felt bad for Pence since he came across as just as great actor as Armie did in the special features of The Social Network)! But now Pence will get a real chance to show off (however briefly) his great acting abilities to millions of people! Not to mention that he looks incredibly like a younger Liam Neeson which is an awesome thing to see! This casting decision alone has made me respect Christopher Nolan even more (if that's even possible)! Despite the fact that this movie will probably have way more enemies for Batman to face than in the previous two movies, chances are that most of these so called villains will just be small pieces in a much larger puzzle like in the last two films. The villains that need to be highlighted and learned about will be necessary to tell the story and be the main cause to drive it forward! The villains that aren't entirely essential to the film will be used as servants or parts to the larger machine that are the primary, secondary, and tertiary villains. Now, I recently rewatched Batman Begins and I've realized something after distancing myself from The Dark Knight in order to help my experience with this upcoming movie and I must say that Batman Begins is just as amazing as The Dark Knight but in entirely different ways which made me appreciate both films even more. Now that people who know the story and have read the script to The Dark Knight Rises have all come out and said that it tops The Dark Knight, I'm getting the real feeling that Nolan will make his Batman trilogy the Lord of the Rings trilogy of superhero movies! The trilogy that solidifies an entire genre that's been existent for many years but is now considered a REAL film genre! The trilogy that as a whole is considered a perfect one and the fan favorite movie of the trilogy will entirely depend on purely subjective feelings independent to the individual film viewer and there's no obvious answer. Either way, I'm confident that this movie will blow The Dark Knight out of the water like that did with Batman Begins in the grand scheme of things despite the fact that I already have absolutely ZERO expectations!

  • April 8, 2011, 10:35 p.m. CST

    I've enjoyed both of Nolan's Bat films

    by Kammich

    I think he brought a fresh take on the material, a firm grasp on his ideals, and some terrific casting to back it all up. His two Batman films are as close to "auteur filmmaking" as you'll probably ever get in this glossy super hero genre. With that said... I'm hoping for a successful climax to this trilogy, but I will be ready for another new directorial voice to take the reins. Nolan's delivered with the much-talked-about commitment to realism and the carefully crafted plot structures that resemble a classic thriller than a comic book narrative... and he's delivered some classic moments, great performances, and revitalized the property. I think after 'TDKR,' it will be someone else's turn. And don't look at me to start throwing around suggestions. For all I know, whoever ends up taking over the Bat-verse around 2015 or 2016 hasn't even made a theatrical film yet. Or if they have, perhaps they don't jump out as a dream candidate just yet(circa 2004, I certainly didn't see Christopher Nolan's name and go "oh hell yes, this guy fits Batman like a glove!"). Either way I'm excited for Nolan's final installment, and I'm excited for what lays beyond for the character.

  • April 8, 2011, 10:52 p.m. CST

    You're wrong, jedimast3rbat3r

    by schizoschizo

    The Keaton-Kilmer-Clooney Batmans were painfully godawful.

  • April 8, 2011, 10:54 p.m. CST

    I hope this rights a few wrongs.

    by Super Joker

    I love the idea of Batman becoming Ra's as he becomes more jaded in his quest and has to resort to desperate measures like he did with the Big Brother stuff in Dark Knight when The Joker had his back against the wall. That sounds like a movie I want to see. I love the idea of Batman royally fucking up everything and it all ending in tears. I'd love to see it end in tragedy which would also make Batman Begins a better film (I'm also in the minority who think Begins is a superior movie to Dark Knight). My biggest wish however is that Christian Bale sorts that voice out. Some of the lines in Dark Knight are cringeworthy because of the delivery which for some reason always takes me out of the movie. When he paraphrases Harvey at the end of the film "live long enough to see yourself become the villain" it's as though it's Napoleon Dynamite behind the mask. I laugh at almost every one of Batmans scenes. His Batman growl combined with his distinct lisp made him sound borderline retarded. Personally I loved the hushed whispers of Michael Keaton's Batman to the forced-rage of Bale. Some of the lines he was given just didn't match up with that style. "I'm not wearring hockey pads" is a stupid line for Batman to say at all anyway but it was made ten times worse by the ridiculous delivery. The best Bale moments are where he's acting the part naturally. I loved that "Where are you?" followed by the whisper of "here". That's Batman; cool, scary, creepy, effortless, terrifying. I loved the scene where Bruce takes out a bunch of thugs in his apartment in TDK, I loved all the training sections in BB, and I loved the bits where he was in the Batman suit and just talking like Bruce (i.e. when he meets up with Ra's at the end). Just drop that forced voice. Rule of thumb, if Batman isn't in a physical struggle then that gruff voice will make him sound constipated. Just drop it, for the love of jebus.

  • April 8, 2011, 11 p.m. CST

    Forget the Lazarus Pit thing guys

    by sith_rising

    doesn't exist in the Nolanverse. Ra's is Ducard, Ducard is Ra's. The title of Ra's is like the Dread Pirate Roberts, nothing more. Ducard was a mortal man that secretly lead the LOS using guys like Ken Watanabe as figureheads. He was a mortal man that probably inherited that title from someone else. He died when the train exploded. End of story. And yes, I'm incredibly fucking pumped about this, because I really wanted the LOS arc to continue, and was afraid the 3rd film would be about the fucking Penguin or Freeze or Poison Ivy.

  • April 8, 2011, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Could just be a brief flashback scene or something.

    by frank

    Also, I don’t think he is supposed to be immortal in the current films. They are going for realism.

  • April 8, 2011, 11:18 p.m. CST

    the rumor is that it's only a flashback role. 30 yrs previous

    by Chain

  • April 8, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST

    In Josh Pence we trust

    by JuntMonkey

  • Its clear that Ra's had invented that myth about himself, as it represents everything he had taught Bruce. An Idea can't be killed. The suggestion of him being supernatural and immortal was the power, the power to make his enemies doubt their common sense and to fear a man that might be more than a man, And its clearly established that this is, as bruce says a cheap parlour trick using decoys.

  • April 9, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    This casting means nothing

    by FrodoFraggins

    It's neither good nor bad as it sounds like he's probably in a minor flashback, maybe of his daughters. I can't wait to see the movie and have lowered my expectations a bit. I don't plan on being disappointed.

  • April 9, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST

    MaYbe ras...

    by robertplant

    Was the joker's father?

  • April 9, 2011, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Ironic considering Armie Hammer was almost Batman

    by kafka07

    Weird coincidence. But great casting for a young version of Neeson.

  • April 9, 2011, 12:22 a.m. CST

    After Heath's ridiculous Joker, anything's an improvement

    by Flip63Hole

    I had an imprint on my head from facepalming (when I was awake) through the Dark Knight... RIP Heath, but your Joker fucking sucked. Let this be done with so we can get a real Batman franchise going, pronto...

  • April 9, 2011, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Resurrection Pit. Has to be.

    by yamayama

    Nolan wouldnt have hired him unless he was going to use the resurrection pit in the story. I hope they do the pit like something out of Han solo's carbon freeze experience on Cloud City (Bespin). If Nolan is saying its going full circle then a young Ra's al Ghul would make sense.

  • April 9, 2011, 12:58 a.m. CST


    by Yarlan Zey

    It's the only way to reinvigorate this doomed franchise. Also, since Arnold isn't governor anymore he can reprise his role as Dr. Victor Fries.

  • April 9, 2011, 3:08 a.m. CST

    Flashback scene to explain stuff ? Hmmm... not digging it.

    by Se7en

    But gotta hand it to him, the man knows what he's doing. That 'Warrior'' trailer featuring Tom Hardy, totally can see why Nolan cast him as Bane. Huge dude with great acting chops. Very nice piece of casting.

  • Just wait for it

  • April 9, 2011, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Heath's Joker was shit?!? Needs a re-boot?

    by irishraidersfan

    Flip63hole, viggo... What?!? Vig, I know you think Ledger was good, but a re-boot already? Why? I (and I think it's safe to say, critics and movie-goers worldwide) love Nolan's take on the Bat-verse. I was sick of constantly campy takes, pretty much all we've ever had cinema wise til BB. And Flip? Just what the fuck did Ledger do wrong?!? I never thought I'd see my nightmare vision of the Joker on the big screen, and he was tonally *perfect*.

  • April 9, 2011, 4:03 a.m. CST

    Whoa -- he does look like Neeson

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Based on looks alone, the casting is spot on.

  • April 9, 2011, 6:07 a.m. CST

    Ledger's Joker

    by elsewhere

    Wasn't he basically riffing on the Joker from BTAS? How is that a bad thing?

  • April 9, 2011, 6:23 a.m. CST


    by my liege

    It's not like the comics aren't rebooted every week. Besides, it it wasn't for a reboot you wouldn't be bumming Chris Nolan.

  • April 9, 2011, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Red Hood the best take? Ha, I say

    by chiwrtr72

    Under the Red Hood the best take ever of Batman? Jason Todd alone keeps it from that. No. So many people are lapping up Nolan's Batman because it IS the best Batman so far. That said I have no problem with a reboot. After all it's because of a reboot that we got Nolan. I'd much rather a group leaves on a strong note then we get progressively weaker films.

  • April 9, 2011, 8:18 a.m. CST

    The power of the batman franchise is its flexibility...

    by Rebel Scumb

    it amazes me that so many batman fans fail to realize this. Its been around forever, I welcome any new interpretation of it WB has already said they are rebooting after TDKR, so relax, everyone regardless of how you feel about Nolans take, there will inevitablly be a different one. I mean what other franchise could have the Adam West Batman movie & TDK both be of the same character???? Those 2 movies could not be any more different, and yet they ARE both Batman, and both, in their own ways, are perfectly valid interpretations, and enjoyable films.

  • April 9, 2011, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Danny Devito signed on to play The Penguin...

    by PoppaRotzi

    ...and Michelle Pfieffer will play....oh wait, that was that OTHER movie....

  • Constantly nit picking at the most simplest things that don't need to be. "You forgot your apostrophe".... The remote should be on this side of the table".."Why your got your garage light on during the day" umm its my house..i can do w/e I want. If you don't like it get out.

  • April 9, 2011, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Josh Pence should play every role in TDKR

    by Johnny Wishbone

    Just plaster the other actors' face on him. I bet his body would look quite sexy in skin-tight vinyl.

  • April 9, 2011, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Looks like Neeson, but

    by TommyTonz

    I really wasn't that fond of the whole Ra's Al Ghul storyline in the first one. Just when I thought the series took a great turn with Joker, this shit is back. Great way to turn me off.

  • April 9, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST

    agreed with Tommytonz

    by ComSamVimes

    I remember thinking that when Ra's showed up again at the end of Begins it was a little silly. I hope this character is just for flashback purposes. Not to say Begins was bad. It's awesome...but that's the point it turned back into a comic-book movie really. Anyways...still very excited over's hard to hate on it when we've seen nothing from it, and the only thing to base judgement from is the two killer movies before it.

  • April 9, 2011, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Ra's, I don't think will be a major plotline.

    by Super Joker

    The flashback might just be about Ra's similarities to Batman, and how both Bruce and Ra's started out in the same way. Maybe Talia in this film will be the one who actually comes to Gotham to help Batman steer away from following her fathers footsteps, as opposed to her being part of a boring "I will avenge you father!" story? Maybe Talia is there to help? Maybe not. Lets just see. The only thing I find annoying on these talkbacks is when people go "That's not whats in the comics". When it comes to Batman, any interpretation is pretty much valid. Fuck, even Joel Schumachers travesties are still valid interpretations of the character. I couldn't care less as to what the "tone" is, because to me that's just an arbitrary decision, the real issue is whther its a good film or not. I was going to say I'd love to see a version of Batman that's more like a Verhoeven flick with a dark twisted sense of humour, but I suppose Kick Ass is already that film in many ways. Anyway, I am so very glad that Batman went through a broad spectrum of changes over his life as a character. If Batman didn't have that flexibility that character would have never really left obscurity and we probably wouldn't have ever seen a single movie made.

  • April 9, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    This movie doesn't have enough villians.

    by knowthyself

    Needs about five more.

  • April 9, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST


    by Aaron

    I did not read the comments that have come before mine, so this may be a repeat. But fuck it. Nolan's whitewashing of both Ra's and Bane is deplorable and insulting, and speaking as a human mammal of Hispanic descent, I'm particularly disgusted by the choice of Lily McWhite Hardy as Bane. Bane wasn't the best villain ever invented. He could've been a great if they had left him alone after Jean-Paul valley took him out (just like Doomsday would've been great if they had let him go after "Hunter / Prey," but that's another story)... BUT, he was one of the last good Batvillains to come around. And as everyone knows, he was portrayed as a Hispanic character. Not a good guy, but he was a strong character with a good balance of values and flaws. A lot of people just saw him as 'the dumb wrestler.' Clearly they did not read Knightfall. Even as I type this, I reminisce about his intelligence and his gravitas. So, yeah, cast a dude as Bane who is white as they come. I don't care how good of an actor he is, and really, he's just NOT. THAT. GOOD. Don't give me this 'Bronson' shit. Stop making excuses. I must stop because I have nothing nice to say.

  • April 9, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    super joker

    by Aaron

    I just read your post because it was intelligent and well-written, and it came right before mine. You are right about Batman's flexibility as a character, but I fear that in our zeal, in our craven desire to see a truly great Batman movie, we've accepted some rather boring choices made by Nolan and deified them as more than they are. I find that Batman Begins exemplifies this best. Up until Bruce becomes Batman, the movie entrances me. It feels Morrisonian--that is, everything feels heavy with the weight of impending destiny and, though I am loathe to use this word now ruined by pop culture, 'epicness'. As soon as he becomes Batman, and I mean LITERALLY the moment that he pulls Falcone out of the car, it turns into Action Movie 101. All the life just gets sucked out of it. I would like to see a fan edit of BB with TDK. take the beginning of BB and the middle / ending of TDK and that would be a good start. Nolan have given us some really great moments, but he's also passed off a lot of generic, phoned-in action movie beats as something they are not. See the entire last act of BB for examples.

  • April 9, 2011, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Do it Dick Tracy style

    by Dreamfasting

    If they're going to wrap up the series in just three movies then why not go all in - do it Dick Tracy style: put *all* the big villains in it as a mass of cameo roles. Show Gotham descending into ever-deeper and freekish chaos and then reexamine who exactly won the first movie.

  • April 9, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST


    by thecheesegrommit

    Ha Ha Ha, you did that really funny thing where you take a subject that is universally applauded as being perfect and you go the other way. Ha I love it. That makes you special and important, and you are! Don't you forget that, you are special!. You have a place in this world and you are shining.

  • April 9, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Mask of The Phantasm owns Red Hood

    by Smack_Teddy

    and all this talk of Heath being rubbish, needs a reboot stat, is just trollish, and annoying respectively. Stop it. Just please stop it, right now.

  • April 9, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Looks a little like a young Liam Neeson

    by Ribbons

    So, good casting! I like that they're bringing the League of Shadows back but to be honest it sounds to me like they might be trying a little too hard to tie up loose ends. The question of whether Gotham is a city that could or should be "saved," and what exactly that means, seems too complex to answer definitively. However it's Nolan, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I'm sure at the very least there'll be a lot of interesting ideas to chew on.

  • April 9, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST

    I hope TDKR ends

    by elsewhere

    on as similar a note as the Joker saying "we are destined to do this forever." Make it appear that this version of Gotham will continue to exist as a revolving door for freaks and that there is no end in sight to Batman's mission. The End.

  • April 9, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Check this crazy development out

    by skywalter

    It is clear now that there will be a flashback. To add a new development, Katie Holmes is listed in IMBD as "Elaine Dawes." How crazy is that???

  • April 9, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    This guy should play young Sean Penn in something

    by CountryBoy

  • April 9, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Young Ra's Al Ghul won't be a main villain

    by Andrew Coleman

    Some of your guys complaints are confusing to me. I thought it was pretty clear Talia and Bane are the main villains with Catwoman and maybe someone else in minor roles. First off I'm fine with TLOS returning. Why if a world wide organization which has set up ways of quickly bringing up new leadership would just give up? Ras dies and a couple of his ninja's got fucked up. So then the League of Shadows just packed it up and gave up? Bull shit their end game was bringing Gotham down. So why wouldn't they come back? I'm pumped for this. Using the Riddler would have seemed like a Joker copy cat. Penguin wouldn't really work as an ending to a trilogy... No sci-fi villains so Freeze, Clayface, Poison Ivy are out. So what do you want? Sure I would have loved them to do Hush. But oh well this seems great to me. Young Ras will obviously just be flash backs to him raising his daughter. So why the issue with this?

  • April 9, 2011, 8:45 p.m. CST

    my theory is young ras connects bruce, talia and bane.

    by Orion

    Like bruce, talia lost her mother at a young age but she still had her father until bruce killed him. Maybe her and bane had a rachel/ bruce like connection but i hope not. I love the idea of bane being raised in a prison.

  • April 9, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Having seen the Social Network making-of doc

    by ranma627

    I'm very happy for Mr. Pence. Glad he got a big break.

  • I'm not an expert on the comic book, but isn't the Ras Al Ghul of the comic someone who can regenerate his body into a younger one when he dies, at least in the comic? I thought at first that's what is happening here......But this reminds me an awful lot of what they did with the Don Corleone character in Godfather Part II.

  • April 10, 2011, 4:10 a.m. CST

    tom hardy as Bane anyone? concept art

    by Arkhaminmate001

    Some fan art i've done, let's hope Hardy can get this big!

  • April 10, 2011, 7:26 a.m. CST

    I Guess It'll Be A Flashback Scene? Unless... The Lazarus Pit?

    by NeonFrisbee

    Nah, probably just a flash back. Either way, I just reread Year One the other day, and wonder if Catwoman will be introduced in a similar fashion? I could see 'em doing some variation of that.

  • April 10, 2011, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Next he'll play a young Qui Gon in a prequel to the prequel.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • April 10, 2011, 11 a.m. CST

    Best version of Batman? The one in the 'Arkham Asylum' game.

    by BiggusDickus

    They actually had the 'world's greatest detective' do some detecting!

  • April 10, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST


    by Super Joker

    I agree with you about many of your points. To be honest my favourite parts of the entire Nolan-Batman is the stuff at the very beginning of Begins. I would have loved to have seen more of Bruce's training. I especially lamented the lack of any escape-artist/detective training. He trained as a warrior and that was about it. It was as though the magician element was meant to be in there but had to get cut out because it would have "taken too long" for Bruce to become Batman and start "kicking some ass". I'm convinced Nolan really wanted to do that stuff but was forced to remove it and that's what prompted him to make The Prestige - using a few of the ideas he had for Batman's origin perhaps. I just find it too much of a coincidence. It would have been nice to have seen a more in depth origin, a film untamperred by studio politics and focus test graphs, where in a completely unprecedented and bold move, Bruce dons the mask at the very end of the movie. That sounds insane but as a character you would believe that Bruce was ready by the end of it. His training was done, that's where he Begins. I'm not complaining really, I understand that the momentum towards a great genre of films is slow and evolutionary, it has to be in order to audiences to warm to new ideas. For the likes of me it's a painful process because I'm willing to give any new ideas a try but for most people they seem to require a ton of convincing just to let some of their preconceptions go and experience something truly new and different. Most people are happy in their little bubbles and anything that is bold will burst it and make them cry.

  • April 10, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Other than career considerations... why always THREE movies?

    by SK229

    What is this obsession with trilogies? The only thing that makes me wary of TDKR is this idea that he has to wrap up his version of the universe in three films. It seems to me like 5 would be more appropriate to fully explore everything and that this whole 'bringing things full circle' is premature. Full circle... we've only seen a VERY BRIEF Two-Face and The Joker... then back to Begins again? I don't know... the pressure of that could fuck up the film. I put a ton of faith in Nolan to be able to know the pitfalls and still pull it off spectacularly, but I think he could have done a few more of these. He's still somewhat young and to come back to Batman every other film and pull the hat trick of going beyond a trilogy with relatively the same cast and crew in a reasonable period of time would have been a feat in and of itself. I guess I can understand if he personally is done with the subject matter, but I'd much rather hear that this is 3 of 5 or even of 6, not the final chapter. Seems like we're just getting warmed up.

  • April 10, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    And by the way, I only suggest this...

    by SK229

    because I think Nolan is one of very few filmmakers capable of pulling off 5 good-to-great Batman films. But I have this very strong feeling that if we ever see The Dark Knight Returns, it'll be 15 years from now when Nolan is pulled out of Batman retirement to do it. That is, unless the next incarnation is even better than his. Personally, I'd like to see someone get away from Burton and Nolan's universe and do something closer to the Legends of The Dark Knight series of comics like Shaman. But that's just me.

  • April 10, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Arkham Asylum very good stuff..cant wait for Arkham City

    by MRJONZ72

    It will be one of the few times I buy games on the actual release date.

  • He plays a ghost who keeps re-enacting the night he killed his fiancee, Darryl Hannah. Anyway, I thought it was funny he was playing a ghost so I started thinking about him coming back as a dream sequence or something, and now they cast someone to play a younger version of him. High Spirits is a comedy by the way. I mean, Steve Guttenberg is the star, so I'm assuming it was a comedy...allegedly.

  • Although I wouldn't be surprised if Christopher nolan liked seeing him without hair in bronson, or maybe even Star Treq Nemesis. Personally I would rather see the dapper looking Hardy we saw in Inception, but as long as the story is good his do is negotiable.

  • April 10, 2011, 7:12 p.m. CST

    But you mentioned

    by ieatgarbage


  • April 10, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Tom Hardy was one of the few good things in Nemesis

    by NADO


  • April 10, 2011, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Stop with the Lazarus pit... Please just think about it

    by Andrew Coleman

    You really think with the way the first two films have gone they would just throw in a sci-fi element. Just imagine the dialogue... "It's me, Ducard" "But how?" "Well I survived the train crash and was lowered into a pit of magical goo that brought me back to life... And made me young" "Ah, okay well time to fight more ninja's". No it will be a flash back to set up Talia's child hood. So enough please. Some of you seem to think it will be this guy/Talia/Bane trying to defeat Batman. It's mainly going to be Bane with Talia pulling strings I assume.

  • April 11, 2011, 6:26 a.m. CST

    super joker

    by Aaron

    Good stuff. I agree fully. That would be truly awesome and a big fuck you to convention to pull a Darth Vader and show him as Bats for the last couple seconds. The set-up could be so magnificent. Ah to dream...

  • April 11, 2011, 6:29 a.m. CST


    by Aaron

    I don't really like my Darth Vader comparison but it's early and that's the first thing that made out of my mouthfingers. But you get the idea. A slow burn that had weight and meat to it.

  • April 12, 2011, 10:22 p.m. CST

    braindrain still not getting over your dead absent daddy i see

    by Smack_Teddy

    is that why you wank yourself of to this thread?