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THE PATRIOT trailer available for download

Published at:  Dec 29, 1999 4:00:23 AM CST

Hey folks, Harry here. And I'm a bit troubled. Recently due to a cataclysmic net crash of NETSCAPE I've been forced to switch over to... MICROSOFT INTERNET EXPLORER. And when I download trailers and film files... I can watch them in the browser... but I can only save as TEXT and HTML.... as a result I can't archive. I only say this because, after downloading http://www.movie-list.com/p/patriot.shtml
>THE PATRIOT trailer
, I can't keep it. Along with the whole line of current trailers to hit the web. This is frustrating me to all ends. Help! I can't figure it out!



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  • Dec 29, 1999 4:13:19 AM CST

    MAN that's sure true. Paging all HTML Gods

    by sterling wolfe

    That always drives me nuts as well. Whoever will take the time to list the steps for a workaround will sure have a lot of people's gratitude. Thanks much. www.themachineisdead.com

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  • Dec 29, 1999 4:20:21 AM CST

    Trailer files

    by momcat

    Hey Harry - You CAN save Quicktime trailers in Internet Explorer (or at least retrieve them!)Make sure that "save in Cache" is enabled in your Quicktime options, then when the trailer is finished DON'T CLOSE YOUR BROWSER WINDOW, minimize it and go to
    C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\4FKLY5G1(this last is any one of the alphabet-soup folders in Content.IE5)you'll find it there and you can just copy it to another location. You'll HAVE to do that, because IE empties that folder when you close the browser. I get ALL my trailer files this way - maybe I'll have to try Netscape!

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  • Dec 29, 1999 4:38:56 AM CST

    Braveheart for the states?

    by vorpalbuni

    "They'll never take our freedom!" When is someone going to let Mr. Gibson know this film is almost the same as Braveheart? Anyone else noticing the HUGE similarities between these two films' marketing campaigns? Imagine if William Wallace was given the chance to have sex with his wife and have kids, and THEN have her killed. Sounds like the premise for this film, set in the states. Of course, Braveheart went on to win big at the Oscars, but something tells me the presence of slimeballs Emmerich and Devlin will ruin any chances this film has. Please let these hacks slither back to the swamp before they make Godzilla 2.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 5:15:58 AM CST

    THIS TIME IT'S PERSONAL!

    by brendan3

    Wow..they managed to make a revolutionary war film look like a cheesey 90's action hero movie. "It's taxation without representation...and someone's gonna pay"

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  • Dec 29, 1999 5:22:06 AM CST

    Downloads

    by growup

    The other alternative is to use a program like Go!Zilla. Go to the link, copy the page address, put it into the program, and let it download the trailer. Once it has downloaded, you can play it as much as you want.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 5:45:02 AM CST

    You have tried right clicking, right?

    by kerle

    If this sounds stupid, just ignore it, but you have tried right clicking on the link and selecting "save target as..", right?

    "Yes, Mr. McCarthy, I sold nuclear secrets to the Russians-- but that makes me a capitalist, doesn't it?"

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  • Dec 29, 1999 6:43:08 AM CST

    my fear is.....

    by hotspur

    that this will look just as stupid as the previous Emmerich/Devlin flicks. Universal Soldier was actually a crappy movie, Stargate was kind of ok, but way to serious, Independence Day worked because of the effects but the story blew and Godzilla, well I don't even wanna talk about that one! But hey, I'll believe it when I see it that they can actually make a great epic film as I think the intentions was with this one.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 6:47:05 AM CST

    Yes, rightclicking is right!

    by gg

    And then use save "destination as..". It

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  • Dec 29, 1999 8:22:46 AM CST

    Saving Trailers & Battlefield Earth

    by unclesam

    You can certainly save The Patriot trailer in Internet Explorer by right-clicking on the link. You Netscape people need to take a break from ragging on everything that's Microsoft.
    Also, the Battlefield Earth website is open at www.battlefieldearth.net . I'm definately skeptical of this movie's potential for being good, but mostly because of Travolta's involvement. The trailer just doesn't seem too inspiring. Now, I've never read the book, but nothing about Travolta's appearance seems pretty dumb. His Terl (sp?) may be 12 feet tall, or whatever, but it looks pretty much like Travolta with dreds to me. So, someone who knows L. Ron Hubbard's book well enough, please speak up.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 8:32:51 AM CST

    Sorry, but one more thing...

    by unclesam

    Of course, a reliable way to save movie trailers is to pay for the upgrade to QuickTime Pro. If penniless college students such as myself can afford the $29 upgrade, I'm sure that rich-ass web-bound movienews geeks can, as well. You could probably even get Apple to give you one.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 8:42:16 AM CST

    BUY A MAC!

    by sprocket-bot

  • Dec 29, 1999 9:03:19 AM CST

    HOW TO SAVE MEDIA FILES IN I.E.

    by samuelk

    IT's really easy. After you're done watching the movie in the browser, close the window, hit the back button, minimize it, whatever... just open up your Temporary Internet Files directory and sort the files by size (a quicktime file is probably the biggest file in there) or by type and copy the file to another directory.

    I used to love Netscape, but I had to admit that IE 5.0 rocks hard.

    Sam

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  • Dec 29, 1999 9:07:06 AM CST

    Addendum

    by samuelk

    I should say that the above method is a last resort. As someone mentioned in an earlier post, if you right click on the link and choose "save target as", this will save the quicktime movie. In fact, if you've already watched it in your browser, I.E. will just copy that version instead of downloading it all over again.

    Sam

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  • Dec 29, 1999 9:55:23 AM CST

    Hey Harry,

    by peaches

    Use Go!Zilla. It downloaded jes' fine for me!

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  • Dec 29, 1999 10:15:14 AM CST

    Go!zilla

    by boardstiff

    The Gozilla idea works well. Right click on the movie to download and select COPY SHORTCUT. Then open Gozilla and, with your cursor over a blank cell, right click again, selecting PASTE FILE. Select DOWNLOAD or schedule it for later.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 10:32:15 AM CST

    Right Click on Link

    by milsf

    Harry, Harry, Harry, right click on the link (click and hold on a Mac) and go down to "Download Link to Disk" this will let you save the movie to a folder of your choosing. You can also pay $35 to unlock QuickTime to the "Pro" version and save the movie after you've seen it onscreen.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 10:36:56 AM CST

    oh no.....

    by princess soma

    Being from an area of the world whose history was barely mentioned in my high school text books, I tend to be a bit sensitive on the subject of "period pieces". We(the royal we, of course) have the ability now to portray history(more)acurately(everyone's history) and it doesn't happen very often. The old studio system had the "excuse" of propaganda(war films, revolution films, etc...), what excuse do they have nowadays for irresponsible and inaccurate representations of history. I want an action movie that kicks ass as well as the next chick...but why can't it also actually be HISTORY(or HERSTORY as you like..) I'm not specifically attacking this film, because I have not heard enough about it. Maybe I'm still a bit bitter about "Anna and the King" and the movie it could have been.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 10:54:22 AM CST

    The Patriot= The Patriot?

    by bijou27

    Would this new movie be in anyway related to the lost silent movie of the same name? I forget who directed it and what year it was released, but I know it was about the revolution. I recall reading about it in the book 'Lost Films', but I can't find my copy to look it up.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 11:00:50 AM CST

    HERSTORY....

    by usagi

    I don't like.

    hehe

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  • Dec 29, 1999 12:04:09 PM CST

    Ok, morons....

    by samuelk

    Maybe that was a bit harsh, but this is starting to tick me off. For those of you who bash Braveheart and The Patriot (which you haven't even SEEN yet) and other period pieces, there's something you should realize.

    These are M-O-V-I-E-S....Mooooovies. I.E. ENTERTAINMENT. Don't go see a movie thinking you're going to get an easy history lesson. Read a book. B-O-O-K. Movies are NOT CLIFF'S NOTES. Only someone with a lazy-ass attitude would ever claim to learn history from a frickin' movie. MOVIE'S aren't for teaching...they're for having fun. They're FICTION....FIIIICTION.

    I hope we all learned something today.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 12:14:56 PM CST

    takes one...

    by princess soma

    So it's OK for movies that claim to be based on fact to mislead people that don't know better.
    Don't say that the sources are there. How many books can you find at your local library on the History of Thailand(after you look at that "handful", find one written by a Thai) and I don't mean a cook book or a guide to the "pleasure trips" to Bangkok.

    I'm sorry if I think that media owes a small measure of responsibilty. Maybe that does make me a moron...expecting so much.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 12:49:16 PM CST

    Ok....

    by samuelk

    I apologize for the "morons" comment. Most of the people here are very intelligent; we just have differing opinions.

    But no, I don't belive the entertainment industry owes us ANYTHING. I for one don't go to a movie to learn. I go to be entertained. And I can understand when a movie takes "artistic liberties" to make a good movie.

    I know that Robert the Bruce wasn't involved in the rebellion until AFTER William Wallace's death. But changing things in the film made for a much more dramatic plot.

    On the other hand, if Braveheart opens one person's eyes to the life of William Wallace-- if someone goes to see the movie and says "I'd like to learn more about William Wallace"--if the movie encourages someone to go to the library and find out more about the ACTUAL events on which the movie is BASED, then here's to artistic freedom in filmmaking.

    Most ACTUAL events in history are rather boring, and wouldn't make a good film.

    The real question is, let's say that you got your wish and movies were completely faithful to the events they portray...how far do you go with that? Where do the filmmakers go for "accurate" information? (Hmmm, let's see...was William Wallace right-handed or left-handed? If we don't portray him accurately, someone will get upset...)
    There is no source on EARTH that is totally accurate...there is no OFFICIAL book of history. History books are and will always be biased and inaccurate.
    There's a REASON the credits contain the paragraph that states "All characters and events in this motion pictures are fictious....".

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  • Dec 29, 1999 1:16:24 PM CST

    Good Trailer

    by melody

    At least SamuelK and Princess Soma are intelligent about their discussion/disagreement... unlike most of you ... I don't know where you get off judging the movie by a trailer (which, in my opinion is VERY good *and* original). Heapin' a whole lot of hatred is the way most of you sound ... you hate this person and that person and they all suck, and don't know anything ... blah, blah, blah. Do you ever have a constructive thing to say, or are you just this unhappy?

    As for the lemming repetition: "It's just like Braveheart" ... oh, really (!??). Then you have seen the entire movie, been on the set, or at least read the script, right? Or ... is it that Mel uses a sword in both movies, and fights? Then ... is BH really LW? or RANSOM or The BOUNTY? Grow up! Your yammering is boring.

    Here's another one that really gets me ... the people who infer that because Mel's father moved the family to Australia Mel should not be in a movie about: 1) an American hero, or 2) a hero movie at all.

    Get a grip! First of all, since when does an ACTORS political or personal views have to reflect their reel life characters? If that's the case, a WHOLE LOT of them, and I mean a LOT! of leading men better quit kissing those women and bring their boyfriends out of the closet.
    Secondly - you don't know where Mel stands on any of this, it's none of your business or mine, and has NOTHING to do with the movie.

    Jeez, I am so glad it's not my job to market this stuff ... the movie looks to be a Class A winner to me ... maybe that's the problem ... looks like some folks have a vested interest in trying to make the movie look bad before it gets out the gate ...

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  • Dec 29, 1999 1:24:16 PM CST

    The Trailer

    by melody

    Now that's off my mind ... the trailer is *excellent* ... if the movie is as good ... this is an sure Oscar winner. The tag-line is cool. I *loved* the bullet out of the gun barrel (all authentic in historical detail), hitting the ground, etc. Mel's eyes tell a story even in a trailer ... Heath Ledger's brief shot looked good ... hope he has some meaty parts in the movie as he did a good job in 10 THINGS ... the hatchet at the end was awesome ... made me sit up and take notice ...

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  • Dec 29, 1999 1:30:41 PM CST

    It's no Godzilla 2 !!!

    by darth siskel

    The Patriot looks like Braveheart set in a different time period. I'll wait for Godzilla 2.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 2:15:35 PM CST

    Montag606.....

    by samuelk

    If you're talking about me, Montag606, I never said "I don't go to movies to think".... I said I don't go to movies to learn history.

    I love intelligent movies. But a smart movie and a historically accurate movie are mutually exclusive ideas. Learning history from a motion picture is like trying to get a history lesson from a painting. It's not the intent of the medium. History books are written as an allegedly objective and unbiased account of events. Movies, like paintings, are an artist (or artists) interpretation (and/or embellishment) of events, be those events real or ficticious.

    There will NEVER be a perfectly historically accurate movie. You try to name one movie that you think is historically accurate, and I'll bet there's at least one gross inaccuracy in that film.

    Sam

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  • Dec 29, 1999 2:20:41 PM CST

    Interesting Questions

    by melody

    ... were raised in the trailer ... what would *YOU* do if ... and the questions were supported by some convincing visuals ... this is a thinking mans movie as well as what appears to be an excellent, superb cinemagraphically presented story and (from the buzz) extremely well researched film. I can't wait for the release.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 2:23:22 PM CST

    So what if the Patriot looks like Braveheart?

    by devils halo

    I liked Braveheart (it confirmed my ideas for a period piece story that could profit, because HEY, this story could be told anywhere, anytime, using the same David vs. Goliath theme and looks like the Patriot may in fact support that claim.) So they look similar, you think people won't see it because of that? If Braveheart did real poorly, that may affect box office on the Patriot, but it didn't. Now if you want to compare shit with shit try looking at Waterworld and the Postman. Now that's a scary comparison of similar movies.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 2:49:33 PM CST

    History Lessons

    by day4night

    Princess: You ask if it's OK for movies that claim to be based on fact to mislead people that don't know better. I say hell yes. Irresponsible? Defintely. But I for one go to a film to be swept up in something more than everyday events presented as they really happened. I can turn on CNN and get all the "reality" I need. I want heros. I want larger than life stories that take me beyond the realm of possibilities to the impossible (within reason, of course). So what if they are skewed in one particular slant to bring across a point? What the hell do you think history books have been shoveling into all the young impressionable minds all these years - Joe Blow from Somalia's hand written account of his country's plights? I remember hearing that some people thought Oliver Stone's "JFK" was a documentary. As Oliver said, it was his myth to hold up as a counter offer against the Warren Commission's myth. If people are that ignorant about what they're watching, they obviously aren't going to become enlightened by sitting in a darkened theater for 2 hours. More aware, maybe. But that's where we all take our first steps, is it not?

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  • Dec 29, 1999 2:54:41 PM CST

    Day4Night

    by samuelk

    You say that it's irresponsible for a movie that claims to be based on fact to not adhere to the facts, yet you defend Oliver Stone's version of the JFK assassination.

    Now we get into simple word usage.
    Isn't Stone's film "based on fact"? I guess the difference is that Oliver Stone said it's his theory, and isn't to be taken as historical fact. But I guarantee that if you interview any writer/director/producer about a "period piece" movie, he/she will say the exact same thing: "It's an interpretation of the events, and should not be taken as historically accurate fact". Braveheart is "based on the life of William Wallace"...it's not a "historical account of William Wallace's life".

    Sam

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  • Dec 29, 1999 3:46:02 PM CST

    Sam

    by day4night

    Now I'm defending "JFK?" I simply used it as a film to point out my theory that people interpret history differently. As I said before, yes, it IS irresponsible for filmmakers to claim they are presenting us with a film that is "historically accurate" when in fact it is far from it. "JFK" is one side of a coin, and that is all it ever presented itself as. We have been told one version of the whole story; this was Oliver's. If we choose to go with his version, are we any worse off than those who choose to go with the Warren Commission's version? Same theory with "The Patriot." I guarantee there are gonna be people who're gonna stomp their Buster Browns in protest at how Mel's character, Benjamin Martin, was drawn from Frances Marion, taking all the man's tactical strategies, yet putting him in battles Marion was never involved in. (and giving Martin credit for turning points in the Revolutionary War that others rightly deserve.) I say to those people: get over it. This film will never present itself as "based on the life" of Frances Marion. It is inspired by what many people did, and that's it. It'll present many "real" events. If they really happened that way, who knows? Who really cares? Again, I don't go to movies for a history lesson, because I don't expect my teachers to be filmmakers whose main concern is entertainment. From what I've seen of the trailer, this film is definitely aiming to entertain, and I'm all the more a happy camper because of it.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 4:18:14 PM CST

    You can save the trailer but it's so BOOOOOOORING

    by stitch

    Harry, I was able to download the trailer and save it (I'm using Netscape). So, you can save it to your computer. I have Quicktime pro, though. But then I trashed the trailer immediately because it's so fucking boring and uninspired and pointless and 'dead.' Another Emmerich project. Blah!!!! Why would anyone want to save this bit of film or even see the movie is a mystery to me????

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  • Dec 29, 1999 4:39:18 PM CST

    USE GET RIGHT

    by cleverhans

    Get Right can save the files if they're on a scripted site, etc. Just trying to help.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 4:44:19 PM CST

    Day4Night

    by samuelk

    Ok, wait...maybe we agree...now I'm confused. :)

    A special thanks to the stoner above for lowering the intelligence level of the conversation... and for the use of the word "chicks". No go eat something....I think there are some M&Ms behind the couch.

    Sam

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  • Dec 29, 1999 4:49:17 PM CST

    More historical inaccuracy

    by lymond

    Kind of off the subject here but I just finished listening to the directors commentary on my new Highlander DVD (gloat) and in the year that the Scottish battle takes place kilts hadn't even been invented - they should have all been running around naked! For those who care, kilts were invented by the English to give the Scots clans different identities in the 1700's...I think. I love my history so I personally would like to see as much historical accuracy in films but I've given up expecting it. It would be great to be entertained and learn something in the process but if I can only pick one I'll be entertained thanks.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 7:52:25 PM CST

    The Patriot Trailer

    by harryl

    In the case of "The Patriot" trailer, the quicktime file is stored in the subdirectory "C:\WINDOWS\ Temporary Internet Files\" by Internet Explorer.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 9:51:02 PM CST

    Hmmm... Dunno about boring

    by pipsorcle

    Well, I find it hard for this trailer of the Patriot to be boring. It's just too fast and too short. It's gotta be a teaser, because this is the shortest trailer I've seen in a long time.

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  • Dec 29, 1999 10:22:06 PM CST

    As a matter of fact, Melody...

    by vorpalbuni

    I do know someone who visited the set. It was very fun (watching the big battle scenes be shot), very informative (they built a whole village in North Carolina, just to burn it all down in one of the big battle scenes), and a great time was had by all. But, there is a big difference between having the right elements, and having a great film. Perhaps we knock films a bit prematurely, but I think it's safe to say everyone knew The Postman was going to be a stinker by it's trailer, and most films with bad trailers never rise above their weak marketing campaigns. By the way, Dean Devlin IS attatched to the film, as Exec Producer, I believe. Just because his name isn't on the script doesn't mean he hasn't gotten his dirty fingers in the pie. They had an editing trailer on set, and Mr. Devlin was hovering over the editor like a nervous father during his wife's delivery. I think it's safe to say this film will not escape his grubby grasp. Good for you to have an open mind, perhaps too open (studio plant, anyone?). Unfortunatly, this may be the wrong film to be so militant about.

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  • Dec 30, 1999 9:55:53 AM CST

    Your Point Is?

    by melody

    G.E.C. ... or ProfessorDoRight .. attacks my opinions based on my email addy and supports his because he wears the uniform of our country. Not that it matters, bub, but my family has worn the uniform of this country since the days *before* we were an actual free nation. So what? Now we have 'uniform wearing' codes ... three wars and you get a bigger share (>) The issue is ... should an actor portray a character who represents values contrary to his/her moral/political/etc. beliefs. (G.E.C. stated in the first place that he found it 'amusing' that Mel portrayed an American hero because ...) What *I* said is that such as statement in plain ole STUPID ... bringing up an actors personal beliefs is out of place in a discussion of the movie in which he appears. Because that position is irrefutable on an intellectual level a couple of these 'gentlemen' have decided to attack me personnally. To them, I must either be a slobbering, screaming Fan OR a studio plant. LMAO Whatsamatta guys, can't handle a thinking woman?

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  • Dec 30, 1999 10:13:24 AM CST

    Read My Lips

    by melody

    Dearest Montag606: I could not have said the movie was superb as I have not seen it, nor, I venture to say, have you. What I *said* was the photography, ("cinemagraphically presented") is superb.

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  • Dec 30, 1999 10:31:11 AM CST

    English history-by Grover

    by grovertrover

    I would just hope that Gibson and Emmerich will not portray, us poor innocent English as ruthless tyrants and imperialistic bastards, (see Braveheart), I mean whats a little empire building between friends? Braveheart was a great movie-but lets not forget that the Scots screwed themselves not the English, they probably could have gotten rid of us decades earlier if it wasn't for all the in-fighting they love so much.
    I mean honestly, you try to take over the world and what do you get? dear oh dear.

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  • Dec 30, 1999 11:50:00 AM CST

    Discussion or Flaming?

    by melody

    The point is not how mean-spirited, vile, hateful, or full of venom one can be ... in that case, you win Professor Dum.

    What I *said* was that the personal views or political beliefs of any actor are not relevant to the role they portray in a movie. It's a simple concept.

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  • Dec 30, 1999 12:44:56 PM CST

    Real would do it

    by realscott

    Harry, get a RealServer and provide trailers that way. You could also do some little broadcasts and show us your world. Contact me if you want help setting this up:

    lifetheory@hotmail.com

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  • Dec 30, 1999 1:23:58 PM CST

    The Trailer

    by melody

    It is a good trailer and there contains therein a very clever marketing tool I have not seen before. Based on those two things alone, I would say we are headed toward a very good movie.

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  • Dec 30, 1999 10:14:21 PM CST

    How I saved a similar browser trailer

    by jo mama

    When I downloaded the Gladiator trailor the other day, my Explorer played it on the browser, but didn't offer the option to save it.

    I messed with it for a while and got it saved anyway.

    First I opened a second browser (so I wouldn't loose the trailer).

    Next I right-clicked or shift-left-clicked the Trailor link. It acted like it would download it again, but it really just retreived it from the buffer and let me save it as a file immediately.

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