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Any New PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN Films Will Be Standalones, So Sayeth The Bruck!
Nordling here.
If I have any complaints about the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN series so far, it's lack of focus. The first film could have used about 15 minutes shaved off, and the two after that were even more bloated. Perhaps it was because the filmmakers had a long form story to tell and lost the overall plot for the details, trying to fit an all-encompassing story in them. Well, Jerry Bruckheimer spoke to USA Today, and an interesting tidbit was revealed - not only does Bruckheimer have two more PIRATES screenplays in the works, but that any films released from this point will be standalones.
"The audience told us what they loved about it is that it was fresh, it was new, it was a whole new story," said Bruckheimer to USA Today. "So that will carry over into the next one, too, to give it something fresh and different. As long as the audience embraces this one, we’ll certainly try to make another one. It’s really up to Johnny. He loves the character."
I keep forgetting we have a new PIRATES film coming out this summer. With all the other major releases, this one seems to be squeaking under the radar. Hopefully Rob Marshall and Johnny Depp can bring the series back to the swashbuckling fun of the first film. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES comes out this May from Disney Studios.
Nordling, out.
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Depp needs to stop doing these.
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if Sparrow was like a 007 of the seas i would love to watch the movies...seeing exploits without worrying about plot continuations is great....bravo
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And the paycheck.
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A braindead blockbuster that has "focus", or a complex blockbuster where every character has a motivation and a throughline and is much harder to shut your brain off while watching?
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I loved the first one but they got progressively worse. As Nordling said, they just got more and more bloated. If they can tone it down, get back to the story and comedy and keep the over the top CGI to a minimum, then it might get the series back on track.
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He's becoming the James Bond of Pirates.
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We don’t need another unwieldy PotC trilogy. I think the Indiana Jones movies should be the model here.
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Say what you will about the 2nd & 3rd "Pirates" movies, but Bill Nighy as Davy Jones was amazing. And as convoluted as the trilogy became, I think it brought back the pirate genre that Hollywood used to do so well so often.
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The other two were too over the top. I'm just not interested in any of the new ones. I'll wait for the rental.
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March 30, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST
Really good idea....no more back to back filming of sequels
by Bobo_Vision
Those are cinematic poison....(although not box office poison)..
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March 30, 2011, 3:55 p.m. CST
My main complaint: They use the same damn jokes from the 1st one in the sequels.
by Mike_D
"oh hey everybody loved this joke that's throw that in there 1000 times." fuckers.
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More than anything, the trilogy set up the world and stage that these future movies take place in. I would've LOVED more Indiana Jones movies in the vein of Temple. It sounds like that's what they are doing with the pirates movies. I say, bring it on.
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Will there be a show stopping musical number at the beginning of the second act? This continues to be, for me anyway, one of the more perplexing directorial choices of recent years. I'd like to hear some thoughts on this. I've got nothing.<p> Bruckheimer: "With this one we wanted to get away from the complicated character motivations & make it more about the adventure & action set pieces. Once we decided on this route I only had one thing to say.......get me Rob Marshall!"<p> ???
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but sometimes there's a trilogy in there!
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March 30, 2011, 4:13 p.m. CST
CHOPPAH has received some troubling information about The Conspiracy Against AICN ...
by THE_CHOPPAH
I will fill my CHOPlings in once I've managed to get a grip on this story. It's a blockbuster. Just you wait ...
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I guess what they mean by standalone is if they never make another movie at the end of it the audience isn't left hanging. But the fact that the last one ends with him in a boat with a map to the fountain of youth makes this a continuation to me. Don't get me wrong, I kind of like that. But if they plant a seed for a future adventure in this one that leads to another movie, it's not really standalone.
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I recommend watching it split over two nights, TV miniseries-style. The massive battle at the end alone is worth the trip. The f/x and music are probably the best in the trilogy.
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I admire Johnny Depp as an actor. I remember when he avoided big blockbuster-type movies to play funky, weird (and even interesting) characters. This Pirates franchise deal he has going on is beginning to stain him in my eyes. Shame, really.
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March 30, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST
MEANWHILE: Zack Snyder says his Superman will not be linked to the Justice League Superman:
by THE_CHOPPAH
From slashfilm: Asked how his Superman film fits in with Justice League, he said, It doesn’t. Like what Chris Nolan is doing and what I’m doing with Superman, what they’ll do with Justice League will be it’s own thing with it’s own Batman and own Superman. We’ll be over here with our movie and they kinda get to do it twice which is kinda cool.
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March 30, 2011, 4:48 p.m. CST
The convoluted, over-the-top nature of the sequels ...
by ThreeOranges
... made them better than the tepid and unremarkable first film. The second Pirates film is damn entertaining, and so full of fun that the lame jokes and other weak bits don't hurt as much as they did in the first one.
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Its PIRATES of the Caribbean ... not PIRATE! ... Make a Pirates Movie WITHOUT Sparrow for once. Introduce a new HERO pirate for a movie or two ... then bring the two together later on.
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I say that regarding pacing, story structure and characterization. Everything works perfectly. It all balances together very well and you can't help but get wrapped up in it Even Knightly and Bloom give believable performances. I can't say the same for the second film, but it certainly ups the anti. I thought the tone shifted around a bit and the focus seemed to shift as well. But still it was a rollicking adventure tale. The third was total and complete shit. The only good thing about it was the sword fighting in the whirlpool at the end. Every single other element of that film was garbage and frankly I'm baffled why ANYONE can enjoy it. On Stranger Tides looks like a return to the style of the first film which is a real blessing and I for one am really looking forward to it.
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March 30, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST
todaysfate, fuck that dude. There IS NO POTC without Sparrow.
by Jaster
I agree there is too much emphasis on his character because he's more of a sidekick than a lead, you simply cannot continue the series without him in the mix.
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Even if the epic stories don't revolve around him, he should always be falling into them (whether he is a significant player or not). Like the Warner Bros and their sister Dot.
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Someone pointed it out earlier that Jack Sparrow should be approached the same way Paramount did Indiana Jones. I actually think that's a GREAT idea.
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Loved the first 2 actually but the third one was way too long, and outside of Depp I loathed the other characters. There was absolutely no point to Chow Yun Fat's character that was such a waste. And that's why irked me from the jump.
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Just recently re-watched them with my daughter and I was surprised by how much I enjoyed them. Yeah, they're still too long, but they absolutely make sense and they are just alot of fun to watch.
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The blonde mer-chick is Shakira, surely. Meanwhile, here's what's going on in the UK: http://mypollcardisapenis.blogspot.com/ My Poll Card Is A Penis!
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I wont even buy it to add it to the collection. Just like Iron-Turd 2.
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He has 2 purposes 1) he has the navigational charts they need in order to get to Davy Jones' Locker and back; 2) He's one of the 9 pirate lords and his death is necessary for Elizabeth to become a pirate lord in his place (and to eventually fulfill her destiny as pirate king).
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...with each one of these sequels. You can't really blame him and he's pretty much jokingly admitted that he has "sold out" with them...but as far as I'm concerned, hehas a lifetime pass from his other work and probably more of that in the future.
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March 30, 2011, 6:35 p.m. CST
doopey, you say it like that scene makes any sense whatsoever
by Jaster
Chow buys Knightly so he can fucking rape her. Everyone on that ship KNOWS that's why he bought her. He takes her into his room and dies. His first mate runs in and asks what happened and Knightly says "He gave all his ships to me, then died" The first mate says "Oh ok. Where to Captain?" And total dipfucks like you smiled and said "What a great movie!"
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The sequels were pretty unwatchable IMO. The first movie felt like a standalone, and they patched together a mess of a trilogy when it didn't call for one. I can see a series of these with a fresh new story for each one.
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...was how Gibbs was just this endless fount of expositional info. Any time someone wondered rhetorically out loud, there was Gibbs with not just the answer, but a whole damned wikipedia entry of an answer. Okay, so he knows a lot, but it's hard to buy when he was just a deckhand on Norrington's ship, and later, a bum pirate sleeping with pigs in the first one.
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How can you bash 3? OK, Chow Yun Fat was useless as a character, and for a while you wondered what happened to the foundation of Elizabeth & Will's love. But that opening is EPIC. It practically gives you chills; and the fight at the end, not to mention getting to and from Davy Jones' locker..."We've made it back" "No, we're not back"
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That's how it should have been all along, but instead they tried to make it the pirate equivalent of a Lord of the Rings style epic. You're damn right it lost it's way over the two sequels... what a mess. Hopefully they will all be stand alone one-shot adventures from this point onward.
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March 30, 2011, 7:15 p.m. CST
So... it'll be like a stiff turd sticking up out of he toilet?
by LargoJr
When you buy a ticket, does it come with a plunger and your parents yard stick to beat it back under submission?
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Chow bought Knightly because he thought she was the goddess Calypso. He thought controlling her would be a big thing, had nothing to do with rape (although that's what Knightly thought at first). And the first mate didn't automatically allow Knightly to take command, he at first said he would never follow her - he didn't call her captain until everyone was being threatened and asked who was captain. Then later on she was instrumental in their escape, before becoming Pirate King.
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March 30, 2011, 7:29 p.m. CST
I've just never cared remotely about any of these movies
by CountryBoy
They're reasonably fun while I'm watching them; but at the same time, they all seem sort of stupid and pointless to me. Looking back I can't even differentiate among them, they're like one interminable movie with random years-long pauses. Sure, there are some cool effects, and some good jokes I guess; but Sparrow is such a goofball nothing seems to matter, and the plots are beyond convoluted. They're just a mess. It's truly diusheartening to think there are THREE MORE of these slogging toward us...
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You will not forget about it then!
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March 30, 2011, 8:28 p.m. CST
I miss the days of compleyely standalone sequels
by Nasty In The Pasty
John McClane, Indiana Jones, James Bond, Harry Callahan, Riggs & Murtaugh...we saw each new film of their respective franchises not because of some bullshit "To Be Continued!" tag at the end of the last film, but because we simply wanted to see another adventure with these characters. Nowadays, if they made Magnum Force, it'd end with Harry's apparent death, and suddenly the Scorpio Killer would walk out of the shadows eating an apple. See you next summer, kids...!
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Jesus, EDIT FEATURE, please!
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You know.. the PROBLEM with the 2 films shot back to back.. is more or less.. ONE or the other of the films, if not BOTH.. is not really a COMPLETE experience.. without the other. I am not saying that you HAVE to view them together.. but if you don't.. you just.. kinda go.. meh.. Matrix Reloaded.. sets up for a great stand up drag own FIGHT.. and botches it in the FINAL (3rd film) act... same with Pirates.. while I LOVE the.. bitter sweet ending.. the whole Depp wandering around? WTF was that? EITHER of these films (part 2 or 3) are just UNFULFILLING..whereas I'd point to Zemeckis' Back to the Future 2 and 3.. and most people seem to have a dislike for BTTF 2.. and I can admit, I actually prefer 3 to 2.. I loved some of the fun paradox gimmicks.. BUT.. know what? I CAN watch BTTF 2.. all by itself, or in a MASSIVE orgy with the other 2 (same with 3) and when those credits ROLL.. I do NOT feel cheated. When I watch BTTF 2.. I KNOW there's more.. but I FELT like I had a full adventure.. and.. there's more waiting.. unlike Pirates.. or Matrix.. its just like they get to a CERTAIN story telling point and just CUT OFF!!! roll credits.. THE END?! It's not satisfying. there was an hour and a half of Jack Sparrow rolling on a mother flippin barrel and you have the balls to end it NOW.. JUST when it starts getting good? WTH?! So.. no.. a film NOT being stand alone is NOT the problem.. the film being a cripped and half baked narrative that can NOT stand on its own is..
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I dig it. It's the right idea. I also dig that Nolan is going to wrap up his Batman story and then the character gets 'rebooted'. I hate the reboot/remake structure that's infested Hollywood like a slime mould, BUT it makes sense with iconic comic book characters. Like authors and artists do runs. I can understand that. PIRATES is a franchise that should be a lot more like INDIANA JONES or BOND. Connected universe, some meta things -- more rewarding to consume in sequence, with call-backs and cameos, but not dependent on them. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. I wasn't looking forward to PIRATES 4, but I'm starting to.
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With all due respect, the new POTC trailer is the one movie I've heard nothing but positive responses too. Actual, out loud positive responses, I'll add. Heck, there's even a POTC Lego game coming out in early May. This will do GANGBUSTER business. Seriously.
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What the fucking fuck? Everyone I've EVER KNOWN thought BTTF Part II was amazing and BTTF Part III was UTTER SHIT! I mean...fucking DUH! NONE of the elements we all liked from the first 2 films are present in the third. There are no paradoxes, no threats of corrupting the future and as I recall the only relative was fucking Biff Tannen's. And that was just an excuse to do the same old shit again with having him be a bully and get turds dropped on him. This was a science fiction film that takes place almost entirely in the old west. No science. No fiction. All GAY! It was boring. It was stupid. It was lame. Everyone but you knows this.
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The whole ending spit in the face of the rest of the series, (and the rest of BTTF III as well) He makes a time machine while in the old west? He now travels around, interference does not matter because "we make our own choices"? WORST WRITING EVER An ending that would have made the movie good. Marty returns to the present, the time machine is wrecked, he does not race and does not get into the crash. He drives through town, see's things like "Brown's Pharmacy", "Brown's Gas Station". Women, men, (some of whom would be played by Lloyd in make-up)wave to him, with greetings like "Hi Marty", "Hey Marty, how's the family" etc. The Doc is gone, but his descendants are alive, and are living in Hill Valley. Yeah, its kinda cutesy, but it would be a nice comedic ending to the series.
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R U fucking kidding me? He is nothing more than a REALLY lucky butt-pirate. His movies are ABSOLUTELY BLOATED CRAP...nothing more! That includes his butt- pirate, crap movies. Bruck- the cock-sucking butt pirate
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In both BTTF2 and 3, Doc Brown keeps saying how he should have never have created that infernal time machine and wanted to destroy it.....and after Marty returns to 1985, all their troubles could be over, and all three films demonstrated the problems that arise from time travel....so what does Doc do? He creates a time traveling train. <p> What the fuck?!!!! <p> Also, one of Doc's kids at the end of BTTF3 motions to his groin......no, really...watch this: <p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq5-6PkVGCg
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It's the only film i'm thinking about!
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... so do I.
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They have always needed to be stand alone movies! but no lets try and make people care about stupid characters for three flims...jeezz
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The PotC films do a great job of developing the rules of the world and are much stronger on character and theme than typical blockbuster fare. They are all super fun and I commend the writers for bringing the bigger heroes journey elements to 2 and 3. I think people forget just how insipid and brainless most films are. It's not surprising people keep referencing the Indiana Jones series in this post because the PotC is the best action/adventure series since the Indiana Jones series.
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Seriously, they were awful. Worse than either Transformers movies. Worse than Sucker Punch. Very low expectations for this one. At least if Kiera Knightly isn't in it, there will be a 33% better chance I'll like it.
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I actually really liked Pirates 2 in as much as it was a set up for a third film. I watched it in the mind frame that it was NOT a complete story and only as a set up for the next movie, and in that light I really liked it at the time I saw it in the theater. I clapped at the ending reveal of Barbosa... By contrast, the third movie was SO bad that it actually made the second one bad by association! If they had made an awesome third movie then the second would have been good to me as being one half of a whole.
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Keep them coming! Davy Jones was one of the best villains given to us in a very long time, and this series is simply very fun storytelling.
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Oh, and he can't fucking act for shit!
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