Review

Harry is flirting with loving SUCKER PUNCH, but doesn't propose just yet...

Published at: March 24, 2011, 5:59 p.m. CST by headgeek

 

I don’t love SUCKERPUNCH, I respect it.   I love themes, ideas, notions, sequences…  but in the end, it doesn’t quite gel for me upon a single viewing.   At the screening this afternoon though, I was watching the film with a pretty miserable audience.   One that certainly didn’t respect the film, I know this because the second the last line was spoken, they began guffawing and shouted talking to one another…  but thankfully they left pretty quickly.   Not caring to watch the credits – not watching to see the pieces of what looks like 4 or 5 separate musical numbers that were cut from the film.  

 

I’ve never understood this type of film critic.   The type that leaps from their seat as though it is the most important thing they can do, to begin instantly talking, instantly either praising or ridiculing the film while the credits still roll.   While imagery is still on screen.   Showing a complete and utter lack of respect for those that are trying to listen to the end song number, take in the brief glimpses of the musical interludes which were cut, for some reason, from the film.   

 

When I finally left the theater after the credits rolled, I found myself face to face with the Studio Rep who asked what I thought of the film.   My first pass at a thought was to call the film a glorious mess.   A spectacular spectacle that tragically doesn’t entirely connect upon first view.  Then, as I was headed away, Quint said something to Hai (the rep) and I turned and said, “I find it hard to be gleefully dismissive of this film like the dismissive little shits, because there are things in this film that I’ve never seen done as well as what I just saw.”

 

25 minutes later I was comparing the film to Ridley Scott’s glorious mess, LEGEND.   I’d also say it feels as messed up as Gilliam’s studio cut of BRAZIL before it was fully restored.   (btw: Drew caught me on this,  but I'm in a very odd perspective on BRAZIL, as I never saw it originally Theatrically because it opened the weekend after my mother took me from Austin for her divorce.   1st time I saw the film was the studio cut that aired on Network TV. )    Now – I’ve no idea why the huge musical numbers were cut.   It’s possible they didn’t work at all.   But the film is the boldest, bravest & most strikingly original and arresting film that Zack Snyder has ever attempted.   This is his attempt at complete originality.

 

 

This film is a fantasy built upon a fantasy by a possibly wrongfully incarcerated, but more likely, insane disturbed woman that happened to be traumatized by her mother’s death.   She was committed after she tried to protect her younger sister from her wicked stepfather – now her bullit hit the light bulb in the room, so I’m curious to re-watch that scene to see if I can more clearly determine what happened.   Whatever happened, the trauma of losing both her mother and baby sister, renders her pretty much in total shock.   The step-father has her committed to a disreputable Insane Asylum.

 

Now – back in the 30s – this was unfortunately very common place, my own great-grand-aunt was placed in an institution and was given electic-shock to cure her case of lesbianism.   NO SHIT.  

 

Often times, girls that simply didn’t behave got committed.   There were the real mental illness cases, but the system was abused for years.   Whatever, the insane asylum has been the starting place for some amazing tales – just ask Dorothy Gale, one of the reasons I loved RETURN TO OZ so much.  

 

Zack is very definitely playing with the same type of fantasy as Baum, but incredibly helter-skelter.    The film takes place in 3 different levels of reality.  

 

The 1st is a hyperstylized 1930’s-esque world where the girls are all in a real insane asylum that seems like it is run by Oscar Isaac’s very heightened Blue Jones.   As “Baby Doll” is taken in, she listens to her Stepfather have a conversation with Blue Jones which is all about what the Stepfather has planned for her, which is to be lobotomized.   The asylum has a large theater space, which is where Emily Browning’s BABY DOLL is first shown around.

 

It is most likely this setting that caused her brain to suddenly and inexplicably leap to another reality.   One where the big bad that she was getting in 5 days wasn’t being lobotomized, but being sold sexually (a virgin) to Jon Hamm’s HIGH ROLLER, who in reality is actually the Doctor.    This level of existence is also set in a very 30’s/40’s vibe, with the exception of the music – which like MOULIN ROUGE is mainly contemporary music, but anytime Baby Doll dances we’re sent to the next level…

 

Then there’s the third level or reality, which isn’t so much a  level of reality, as much as it is an anthology of empowering femme fantasy, where the oppressed “insane” inmates that are fighting to escape with BabyDoll  become allies and fight to obtain objects that are key to their escape.  This plane of existence begins in a snowy, very Japanese & massive Pagoda – where Scott Glenn is mysteriously the embodiment of the helpful master – who gives Baby Doll her weapons – a gun and a katana, both spectacularly embellished (like everything in this universe).    THEN you get the trio of demonized samurai gigantic warriors – like something from a fevered Kurosawa geek’s dreams.    I found this fight to be spectacular.

 

After we’re introduced to the 3 levels of existence & Baby Doll returns to the second level of reality, pretty much ignoring the Asylum aspects – going for the more comfortable world to mentally handle – of the brothel.  Here she recruits the other girls for her bold plan…  which basically makes zero sense.   I mean, yeah – getting a map of the grounds, pretty important.   Getting FIRE for a distraction, yeah, that’s good.   Getting a Knife in case you need to kill someone.   And the KEY – yeah, very important.   You have to have a key in order to get anywhere in the asylum.    This is better explained here, than in the film, mind you.   Where these items are written on a black board, to be crossed off.

 

The additional fantasy aspects are three different adventures – the first is an excursion to a steampunked WWI trench warfare universe, where the Kaiser has reanimated via steam and clockworks, his fallen soldiers with the idea of pressing on.   This is the MAP fantasy.   

 

Next is the FIRE fantasy, which takes place in a fantasy universe where there are knights in armor laying siege to an orc-ish castle, which holds deep within its belly, a baby Dragon and a badass mama Dragon (still not as great as DRAGONSLAYER).   Here, the girls are now in a WWII era Bomber – which will give rise to some pretty amazing visual eye-candy.  

 

The final fantasy, is to get the knife, which takes us to what could be a colonized moon of Saturn – or some like ringed fantasy sci-fi’d planet.   Here you have a bunch of robots that seem hell bent on blowing up the big city – and the girls must get on this crazy space train, kill all the robots, disarm the bomb, take it off the train, with their Jet Packs.   No shit.   This one goes a bit rough.   But like the others, is visually spectacular.

 

NOW – it is important to note that much of this film is in the mind of BABY DOLL – she is not a reliable storyteller…   she is most likely criminally insane.   Some, after viewing the film, may question Zack Snyder’s sanity, but I will say – I was never bored.   The overall feeling I had was that of a missed opportunity.   An incredible misstep to sort of be in awe of.  

 

I’m in no rush to judge this film with any manner of definitive statements.   This is very much a movie with a lot on its mind.   I feel that a rush to declare it great or rancid would be foolish.    Zack is too good of a filmmaker to do that.  

 

I loved Emily Browning, Abbie Cornish, Jena Malone, Vanessa Hudgens, Jamie Chung and Carla Gugino on the gal side.   I liked Scott Glenn, though I couldn’t figure out for the longest time why he was even in the film, when it was revealed – it makes me wonder if anything we saw in the film ever happened at all.   Which takes us back to the unreliable nature of our storytelling main character, who professes that this isn’t her story – is that a nod to Zack – or that this is actually another of the girl’s ultimate story?   I do not yet know.

 

All I know for certain about SUCKERPUNCH is that this is  spectacular visual experience.   Larry Fong’s cinematography in many ways echoes & comes up a bit short next to Scorsese’s SHUTTER ISLAND and the stunning work of Robert Richardson.   Rick Carter’s brilliant Production Design is just incredibly impressive – and I wish I’d gotten to seen his amazing design work that probably was amazing for the musical numbers.   Then there’s just the beautiful make up and visual effects work that went into this film.  

 

That’s the main thing.   So much pure imagination just exploded on that screen, that I find so much that I love about the film, that ultimately – that it doesn’t all come together, that it isn’t quite all there…   and then knowing, positively that this isn’t at all the original intent that the studio & Zack went into the project wanting to come out with – that the musical sequences are gone entirely…  well it just makes me really wonder about the greater story of this film.   What was the original intent?  What happened exactly behind the scenes that changed that plan?   Was it Zack’s decision – or someone else?   

 

I’ve always wondered about these sorts of things.   I’m a film geek that grew up hearing about a rumored brilliant Welles take on TOUCH OF EVIL, that eventually I got to see.   I remember reading a review of James Cameron’s THE ABYSS that called it the greatest science fiction film of all time – mentioned all kinds of sequences that I never saw in the theater, but eventually I did.    There’s no guarantees that that will occur on SUCKERPUNCH, but it could.

 

I’m planning on taking YOKO to see this at the IMAX this weekend, because she’s been wanting to see it – and after her Wisdom Teeth removal – she deserves a little pain and pleasure – and that is what SUCKER PUNCH gives you.  

 

There’s metaphors built upon metaphors built in insane minds – and when you see films like these, on multiple viewings you tend to catch a ton of things that you missed initially.   That may not occur with SUCKER PUNCH, but I suspect that there’s more to this than watching the film once and running out into streets laughing.  

 

And at the least – you’ll see Zack doing his pulpy horror sci-fi rip on both MOULIN ROUGE and SHOCK CORRIDOR.   It is literally a crazy experimental trip that I can not, not recommend.   Even if you hate it, you’ll passionately hate it in that way that keeps you talking for a while.    If you love it, you’ll passionately defend it.    And if you’re flirting with both sides like me…  shit – you get the experience of deciding where you come down on this film with leasure and joy.   It’s certainly fun as hell to chew on.   That much I’m certain of.

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  • March 24, 2011, 6 p.m. CST

    post 0

    by HEADGEEK

    Harry is flirting with loving SUCKER PUNCH, but doesn't quite propose yet...

  • March 24, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST

    FIRST!

    by Beaverduck

    YES!

  • March 24, 2011, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Harry discovers paragraphs!!!!

    by Simpsonian

  • March 24, 2011, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Glorious Mess...

    by ScriptCunt

    ... okay.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Three reasons to avoid this movie

    by Beaverduck

    1. Looks really shitty 2. Zach Snyder is a hack 3. Harry won't dismiss it like he did Inception

  • March 24, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    I still want to see this movie and I will

    by SoylentMean

    If it's really all over the place crazy then it could turn into a cult type thing. I hope it doesn't fall flat like Sky Captain (which was crazy in its own right and pretty damn cool). <P> Been looking forward to this.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:14 p.m. CST

    A lot of reviews feel like they are trying not to offend Snyder

    by estacado1

    It's bad, but they can't say it outright. The criticism (if it can be called that) are cushioned in consideration to what Snyder has and will contribute to geekdome. Some personalities are just too big to be panned outright. You also have to also keep in mind that most "big" reviewers will get a chance to interview him when Superman nears its release. To miss that opportunity is not an option. It is just too big of a movie.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Is it better than Muppet Babies?

    by Robusto

    Just looks lifeless and hollow. The characters like cliches from other movies. In the trailer when Scott Glenn says his "if you dont stand for something.." line I cringed. Someone actually put that on paper and took credit for 'writing' that.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST

    I'll admit: visually, it looks like it would be spectacular

    by gruntybear

    It's just that lame "it's all in her mind" plot that makes me seriously hesitate to bother with the film. To me, it reeks of South Park's "Imaginationland;" or that DVR commercial (for which company escapes me at the moment) with the incredibly saccharine animorphic cartoon bunny, holding the paw of a lion and saying something like: "Only if you beweeve in the *POWER* of fwendship." Plus, I'm hearing lots of talk about all of the murky gender politics that don't seem to really work in the context of all of those huge effects. Honestly, I'm thinking "Suckerpunch" would have been a terrific candidate to test a simultaneous theater and on-demand release. Having been inundated with "almost there" genre releases these last few years, I just can't bear to sit through another.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST

    if it's fun I'll watch it.

    by Datascream

    There have been a lotta movies people have shat on and I still loved. Jet Li's 'Kiss Of The Dragon' was one of those. It was just simple great fun. Great action and pacing. I think this will be like that to me.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    JAMIE CHUNG, SEX WITH ME, DO IT!!

    by AzulTool

  • March 24, 2011, 6:24 p.m. CST

    @beaverduck

    by KGB3317

    how can you say it "looks shitty"? That's the one thing that this movie undeniably has going for it! Any examples of your "shitty"shittiness that you can put out there?

  • March 24, 2011, 6:24 p.m. CST

    I just wish I could get a good print of Scott Glenn's "The Challenge"!

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    Seriously, "The Challenge" is a movie I'd die to see at the Alamo with the right audience. I used to love watching it in the early days of cable before it mysteriously disappeared into the mists of cinema myth. Why don't we have "The Challenge" on DVD and Blu-ray, and who do we have to kill to make that happen. I have no interest in "Sucker Punch". Never have had any. It always looked like an X-Box 360 game with shallow babe eye candy, dime store psychology and kitchen sink geek iconography. In all honesty, however, I've never been a Zack Snyder fan, being one of the only people who saw "300" early at BNAT that not only didn't like it, but thought it was kind of terrible and hollow. The only Snyder film I've enjoyed is his remake of "Dawn of the Dead", but I'm not one of those crazy, delusional individuals that thinks it's better than Romero's original.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:26 p.m. CST

    going tonight but

    by Arteska

    I'm already primed to like this based on the reactions I've seen - many seem to be willful misreadings (particularly those greeting the fetish on display with virtually no nod to subtext that is obvious from trailers alone). Whatevs. I think Snyder is a great geek filmmaker. I don't get comic shop dwellers that greet him with disdain. As for the rubes that can't get past a mashup wider than rom-com - who cares what they think?

  • March 24, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    @Headgeek

    by KGB3317

    off topic here, but where have all the contests gone on this site? Screenrant stealing all your thunder? You guys must have crates of loot from SXSW...

  • March 24, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Harry respects Sucker Punch?

    by Beaverduck

    I'll be the first to admit that I'm obsessing over the fact that Harry wrote Inception off completely. He was really grasping at straws when arguing his points for hating that movie. Not disliking that movie, but HATING It. But SOMEHOW Sucker Punch earns his respect????!!! Despite being fucking terrible? He's too afraid to like it because he knows how much shit he'll get, but he's too afraid to hate it or Zack Snyder may not call him anymore. P.S. I don't come here for the good stuff, I come here for the schwag.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    @kgb33

    by Beaverduck

    Silent Hill felt like a video game, but looked like a movie. This movie looks like a video game, and probably feels like one too. I'm sure it's visually stunning, but I personally just don't care about "awesome" visuals if they do not come bundled with great writing and interesting characters. That's me though. It's interesting to me that gamers want their games to look more real, but moviegoers are willing to settle for a downgrade.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Hah... another "I don't quite love it" review from the big guy...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...either this flick is sheer brilliance, or absolute, sub-even-AICN-standards shit! I'm betting on the latter.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Yeah, boy, add this one to the "not very encouraging" reviews pile.

    by WriteForTheEdit

  • March 24, 2011, 6:38 p.m. CST

    @beaverduck

    by KGB3317

    No, I agree completely about the writing and characters...I was just trying to call you out on your eloquent "looks shitty" comment. Whenever people ask me how an awful effects-laden movie was, I tell them: "It felt like watching someone else play a videogame". People should be very worried about the potential for a hollowed-out Superman movie.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    SuckerPunch=

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    Inception dumbed down enough that Harry stays awake.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:41 p.m. CST

    No Naked Pillow Fight. No dollars from Kong.

    by Darth_Kong

  • March 24, 2011, 6:41 p.m. CST

    @kgb33

    by Beaverduck

    Ultraviolet. That's what Sucker Punch looks like to me. That's my example of "shitty" shittiness.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:43 p.m. CST

    the reluctant austinite

    by SonOfChiba

    Right on, bro - I got it on DVD-R from ioffer.com. It's an OK print, uncut at least, but yeah, why has this flick seemingly vanished? Sucker Punch looks great, can't wait for it to the UK.

  • Not posting leaked pics from Prometheus is the same as this. I feel abandoned.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Did the bright colors and bang bang noises keep you awake Harry?

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    Christopher Nolan, take note!

  • It was either this or LEGEND OF THE GUARDIANS, and I can't stand owls.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Yoko's wisdom teeth.

    by JudasPriestly

    Yeah, I had all four removed a couple years ago. That was just painful and was in bed for two days straight after the surgery. I'd like to think that Sucker Punch may be this year's Scott Pilgrim, but won't know until I see it.

  • March 24, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST

    massawyrm destroyed this movie

    by Billy_D_Williams

    at least he has the balls to make a decision about it...harry sounds like a little girl afraid to offend her puppy dog crush.

  • March 24, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Of course it's the most original thing that Snyder has done...

    by PhineasFlynn

    ...when his other film credits are "Dawn if the Dead" (remake), "300" (adapted from a graphic novel), "Watchmen" (again, a GN adaptation), and "Legend of the Guardians" (adapted from a series of novels). That said, if this is what ol' Zach comes up with when he's not playing in someone else's sandbox (which he will presumably do with Superman, assuming he doesn't get yanked from that project), then maybe we're better off with him keeping all of his original ideas to himself.

  • March 24, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    It's a terrible, terrible film.

    by Adam

    Reposting from Massa's side of things... I love a lot of things, but at last night's screener for it, I was let down tremendously. The point is that the fanatasies get tiresome. I feel asleep in the third and fourth, realizing that what's going on doesn't matter whatsoever in the grand scheme of things. As well, the resolution of the "real life" events is terrible. Prophecies about nothing. Lastly, there is a musical number over the end credits that is so cut-and-paste that it sickened me. I found it completely pointless given the result of the plot, and actually was an insult to anyone paying attention to the story elements. It seems they had an extra scene from the middle of the film that they felt had to be tacked on to justify the budget. I know this was made in Vancouver and I do try to support our industry, but it's crap. This man should never have so much creative control ever again.

  • March 24, 2011, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Watching it @ midnight tonight...

    by Mariusz

    Hope to like some of it. Not holding my breath, though.

  • March 24, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST

    When you have a new geek film...

    by tailhook

    And Harry I-Like-Everything-As-Long-As-It-Isnt-Conservative Knowles can't find a justification to lie about liking it... you're fucked.

  • March 24, 2011, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Nothing is better then Muppet Babies

    by shutupfanboy

    This looks like Avatar where if I don't see it in a theater, I never will. Which is why I avoided Avatar like the plague. I may see this if I nothing going on in the next few weekends.

  • March 24, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Seriously......

    by LLcruize2

    If you have been waiting for Massa, or Harry or Nordling to convince you to see this, then stay the hell at home. If you can't make a decision on whether you want to go and see something just because YOU want to see it, I say stay out of my way so I can see this in peace and quiet without hearing your bitching. I have wanted to see this from day one and I will be in the theater tomorrow morning at 11am with popcorn and drink in hand. Freak'n sheep.......

  • March 24, 2011, 7:32 p.m. CST

    The Challenge ...

    by Yer_Maw

    ... oh man I'd forgotten all about that one. Fight choreography (or 'martial arts advisor' or somesuch) by 'Steve' Seagal, no less! It shows, too. Very cool. Also - I thought Inception was so-so, and Scott Pilgrim sucked arses. Strangely, then, I think 'Suckerpunch' looks like messy way-too-much-CGI fun.

  • March 24, 2011, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Interesting take

    by ltgalloway

    For a "popcorn flick" this is causing a lot of discussion. I have some preconceptions that I'll try to put aside until after actually seeing it. Thanks for your perspective Harry.

  • March 24, 2011, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Harry likes it. You know it's bad.

    by Executor

    Read Massa's review. The truth.

  • March 24, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Snyder's going to bury Superman

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Singer's shit-fest is going to start looking like a masterpiece in comparison. Snyder is intellectually braindead, he's a 14 year-old given huge budgets and pissing it away against the wall. How can Del Toro and Cameron not get Mountains of Madness made yet this clown has carte-blanche to make whatever he wants? Only in Hollywood my friends. Bring on Prometheus and Elysium.

  • March 24, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Calling this Snyder's most original work is laughable

    by kungfuhustler84

    Since it's obvious from just the synopsis he's pulling from a lot of different inspirations. I'm knocking him for that though, since it's in the nature of studio productions nowadays. Also, why do people say something is inspired by Kurosawa whenever a samurai shows up in armor in a movie? He didn't just make samurai pictures, and most of them except maybe Ran and Kagemusha don't even depict the warriors in full armor. Those guys are definitely more of an homage to bosses in video games than anything else.

  • March 24, 2011, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Well Harry, did they cure your Aunt?

    by Majority

  • March 24, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    *not knocking him for it

    by kungfuhustler84

    being derivative is just part of making movies in the studio systems. Even if it doesn't make for very exciting or original cinema, it's safe business practice.

  • March 24, 2011, 8:25 p.m. CST

    A glorious mess that never gels? So it's Watchmen with chicks?

    by Cash907

    That's basically what I'm getting from you here Harry. I'm still taking the girl to go see it, because she's a glorious mess too, but I'll be sneaking in some Clubs with me, and she's driving home. Half drunk is probably the only way I'll feel I got my money's worth.

  • March 24, 2011, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Serbian Punch

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    you come up with punch line

  • March 24, 2011, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Harry can you Tweet about or start some conversation about "The Challenge"?

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    There are a lot of reasons why "The Challenge" is awesome and would invite some badass dvd extras and commentaries. Several TalkBackers have already acknowledged the badassery of "The Challenge". We need to find out why it has all but disappeared. I'm assuming there is some kind of corporate bankruptcy and rights issues involved, but I know nothing for certain. Can you use your magic powers given to you by your postion as Head Geek to sort this mess out and help us give the world back "The Challenge"?

  • March 24, 2011, 8:59 p.m. CST

    i remember the challenge, my brother loved playing it on old vhs ' patience'

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    yes a true kickass movie, bet that copy has more streaks in it than pam andersons pubic hair

  • March 24, 2011, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Wow I'm totally gonna' see this now --

    by MooseMalloy

    -- on DVD.

  • March 24, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Hot babes, monsters, and shit blowin up...

    by MagicJesus

    what is ya...ignirant???

  • March 24, 2011, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Superman

    by huskerdu2

    Pretty obvious why Zack's making Superman now. He needs to! But Supes will work fine as long as the material Goyer and Nolan give him is decent and Snyder is (studio) controlled in what he does. Expect to see more of the Dawn of the Dead/ Watchmen Snyder on show than the 300/Sucker Punch version is my prediction. Could still fail though. One of these puppies will tank eventually...though Green Lantern's looking the most likely so far.

  • March 24, 2011, 9:38 p.m. CST

    One doesn't have be apologetic or feel burdened...

    by justmyluck

    ...with trying to embrace an excuse for svelte babes hopping around a green screen stage, or the resultant CGI.

  • March 24, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST

    What? You don't like original ideas? How about another remake...

    by Jacks_Raging_Bile_Duct

    Everyone complains about the lack of original stories in Hollywood. Every time news of a remake or re imagining surfaces, critics complain that there isn't enough originality anymore. Then a film like Sucker Punch comes along and people pan it and say it's an epic failure. You know why you don't like it... because it's too original, too far outside the box of what has been spoon fed to you that your mainstream mind can't grasp the means to appreciate what is being attempted. Then you say, well Inception did well and was liked by everyone. How many Oscars did it win? We should be celebrating the fuck out of original ideas in Hollywood.

  • March 24, 2011, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Poor Yoko, dentists are all evil butchers!

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    There's not a decent one south of the Mason-Dixon line either... not enough people of the Jewish persuasion. Now, I know that sounds like reverse-racism or something, but the fact is, the best dentists I ever had were while I lived in NYC and both were Jewish. More power to the Hebrews, man, without 'em, this country would be a doctor-less, dentist-less, lawyer-less hellhole. Fact! Anyway Har, nurse that girl back to health and give her anything she wants, she's way too good for you, ya lug!

  • March 24, 2011, 10:08 p.m. CST

    figures

    by matthooper8

  • March 24, 2011, 10:11 p.m. CST

    "How can Del Toro and Cameron not get Mountains of Madness made...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ... yet this clown has carte-blanche to make whatever he wants?" They're called blowjobs, kwi. Either that or he's met important folks over the ol' e-meters. It's either the Gay Mafia or the L.Ron Mafia... it's GOTTA be!

  • March 24, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I am not doubting Snyder's Superman..

    by darthwaz1

    Snyder is a fine action director. I haven't seen Sucker punch yet, I'm sure it's all over the place like these reviews are saying, because it's Snyder being let off his leash... But I have no doubt that when he's contained by Nolan and Goyer, his version of Superman will rock. If their script is good, Snyder won't fuck it up is what I'm saying..

  • March 24, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I have always trusted your reviews the most, Harry

    by antonphd

    I have been worried that the film was a fantastic mess, but that wasn't going to stop me from watching. A film doesn't have to succeed as a whole for me to enjoy it. But it's good to know what I am in for from someone who's seen it from the same point of view that I have of film. Thanks for having the respect for films you have, Harry. It's the primary reason why I have read your reviews since Titanic.

  • March 24, 2011, 10:21 p.m. CST

    mattman

    by antonphd

    Legend is a beautiful wandering mess of a film. Even the great Ridley Scott fucks up.

  • March 24, 2011, 10:35 p.m. CST

    So Harry kinda likes Sucker Punch, but he dislikes INCEPTION?

    by TheKiller7

    I don't get it. Inception is in every way superior to SP. It's basically dealing with similar stuff. Maybe Harry feels he has to like it because of his ties with the film?

  • March 24, 2011, 10:43 p.m. CST

    here's an interesting review in Salon:

    by oisin5199

    http://tinyurl.com/6ybvl6g and I hope that fucker above me gets banned.

  • March 24, 2011, 10:50 p.m. CST

    I am curious to see this, still don't know what to make of Snyder...

    by SAILOR_RIPLEY

    I really liked Dawn of the Dead, fully expecting to hate it being a huge fan of the original. 300 was absolutely horrible, but it grossed eight gazillion dollars. Which means all the people that made that movie a success are responsible for Snyder being able to make this, which they are now knocking. Kind of ironic. I actually enjoyed Watchmen, knowing nothing about the source material. This looks pretty, but I have a feeling it will be more in the vein of 300. All style, zero substance. Then again, I don't think anything could have less substance than 300, jeez that movie sucked bad.

  • Spectacle for the sake of spectacle. Shock rock. Punk. Layers of influence. Layers of design. Yet with the use of modern film tech, it's also dada. Most people don't get dada. That's just fine with me, Watchmen is the bomb... I mean Dr. Manhattan is/was the bomb.

  • March 24, 2011, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Which dream level has the GIANT SQUID?

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    I kid.

  • March 24, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST

    In harry's defense...

    by SAILOR_RIPLEY

    It is kind of irrational to make concrete statements about a film that you just watched for the first time. How many times do people not care for a movie upon first viewing and learn to appreciate it after seeing it a few more times? It's like judging an album after one listen.

  • March 24, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Waiting for the ultimate mega director's supreme omg cut.

    by UltraTron

    With all the musical numbers restored

  • I remember seeing movies like 'The Matrix' and 'Little Miss Sunshine' which my family and classmates gushed over...and I just felt, 'good, but not great.' Sucker Punch really was a great way for Snyder to do something of his own, after adapting 300 and Watchmen, as well as re-imagining Dawn of the Dead (which a co-worker tells me will shock me). Seeing the full film definitely made me able to accept the concept of a Samurai Warrior wielding a mini-gun in the mind of a 1930's blonde wearing a sailor suit uniform. Strange as that all sounds, I was able to accept this strange mish-mash on almost the same levels as I did 10 years ago watching 'Moulin Rouge.' That to me is what Sucker Punch feels like: Moulin Rouge taken to another level. Even Harry saw some of the similarities. Hope Sucker Punch helps Yoko through her wisdom teeth aftermath. I remember in high school having all 4 pulled in one day, coming home all drugged up and my Dad popping in ID4 which had just come out on video. Needless to say, I was knocked out before the aliens destroyed our landmarks.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:33 a.m. CST

    BOTTOM LINE: HARRY GOT A BONER

    by BringingSexyBack

  • March 25, 2011, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Inception vs. Sucker Punch

    by lv_426

    Seems to be that both films deal with similar subject matter, yet in very different ways. Inception was very clean and focused, while Sucker Punch sounds all over the place. For some viewers, all over the place is not necessarily bad. Personally, I like a film with a cleaner narrative that knows what it wants to be. Note, that doesn't mean to say I only like simple films. For example, to illustrate this point, compare something like Jaws against Deep Blue Sea. Jaws tapped into the primal fear of being hunted and eaten by a shark. It added onto this element of fear, a simple but effective story about the town sheriff and his allies hunting the shark down. Deep Blue Sea, on the other hand, had some mumbo jumbo about genetically engineered sharks and Alzheimer's Disease research and whatnot. It sounded like a bad plot idea for a third rate airport novel. Jaws was to the point and actually believable. Deep Blue Sea was convoluted as hell. I haven't seen Sucker Punch yet, but it seems like its primary problem is that it is convoluted to the max in trying to cram so much "cool" stuff into one film. Hell, the part about the WWII bomber fighting a dragon sounds like it could spawn a whole fantasy/war film hybrid in and of itself. That alone would be enough to keep an imaginative writer/director busy he or she wanted to tell a story that didn't focus solely on eye candy, but still had a fun and fantastical element to play with. Think of the pitch as: on a routine bombing run, a veteran B17 crew becomes separated from their squadron, and in their search for their airfield, they are attacked by a large and hostile fire breathing dragon. That sounds cool. I'd go see that. There would be tons of storytelling and character development opportunity in something like this. From the trailer and reviews for Sucker Punch, it seems Snyder is more interested in style over substance. It feels like pickles and mint chocolate chip ice cream on BBQ pizza with taco sauce and jelly beans on top. Separate from each other, those things can be great, but all in one bite...? At least they didn't try to delude audiences. The trailer seems to telegraph that this film is all about the spectacle.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:39 a.m. CST

    BY DISMISSIVE LITTLE SHITS ARE YOU REFERRING TO MASSAWYRM?

    by BringingSexyBack

  • What a pitiful, sad person they must be to type such things about someone they do not know. I feel sorry for him.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Dismissive little shits?

    by Traumnovelle

    Go fuck yourself, dude. That's ridiculous. Who the fuck are you to scorn people that may have hated the film? If I am let down by a movie and I can't wait to get the fuck out of the theater, I will bounce out of my seat and begin talking about how much I was let down. Just because someone doesn't want to sit through the credits and watch production sketches or whatever it is they show in Suckerpunch, I don't think you should rush to your website and call them 'dismissive little shits.' Someone sits through an entire film respectfully, no cell phones, no talking, but you're now lambasting people for GETTING UP TOO QUICKLY AND DISCUSSING THE FILM?? Seriously...go fuck yourself.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Forgot to add

    by lv_426

    What I was trying to get at is that we are seeing the end of movies that have a single cool high concept that can be explored in some detail and with some tiny fraction of respect for the audience's intelligence throughout the course of a film's 90 to 120 minute running time. These days, instead of Aliens we get Aliens vs. Predator. Instead of WWZ, we will probably be seeing Zombies vs. Robots. Instead of Dracula or Salem's Lot... no, scratch that, instead of something even as low on the totem pole as Blade 3, we get Twilight. Of all the amazing possibilities with a property like Star Trek, instead of creating new characters and exploring new worlds, we are stuck with a half-ass and disrespectful reboot of the Enterprise's original crew and a vengeful Romulan aping Khan. Not only that, but they had to destroy Vulcan to ring out any bit of true emotional sweat from an otherwise silly film. With Bay's Transformers films, the entire experience feels like torture by way of overly excited characters who can't shut up and actually display any type of normal human rhythm. The human characters in the Transformers films look almost as silly as the ghetto-speaking monkey-modeled Autobots from the second film. I bet the military could use these films to torture people. Maybe they already are? And finally, instead of a movie featuring a fresh take on the classic dragonslayer story, or samurai warfare, we get Sucker Punch. I guess Hollywood feels they need to turn the over-stimulation knob all the way up to 11.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Disappointing

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Very disappointing what I am hearing about this film. Do you think Warners is getting worried at all with this guy in charge of Supes, or given Supes non-originality etc, that they are feeling there is only so much he can do. Hopefully Supes will not be doing a dance number.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST

    and Harry your Great Aunt

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    whatever happened, was she cured ? I kid

  • March 25, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by lv_426

    "How can Del Toro and Cameron not get Mountains of Madness made yet this clown has carte-blanche to make whatever he wants? Only in Hollywood my friends. Bring on Prometheus and Elysium." Thank God for Prometheus and Elysium. Peter Jackson directing The Hobbit is probably going to be a huge breath of fresh after the films of recent years. Del Toro directing Pacific Rim sounded good too, but with the disaster in Japan, I don't think it will be made anytime soon, if at all in the next five or more years.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST

    So is it a POSITIVE or NEGATIVE review?

    by Punisherthunder

    I'm sick and tired of these kinda like it/kinda don't reviews. At least with Ebert's thumb you know where you stand.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:06 a.m. CST

    "At least with Ebert's thumb you know where you stand."

    by lv_426

    That sounds kinda gay.

  • March 25, 2011, 2:49 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Should have sent Harry's great aunt to see me... I am the only known cure for lesbianity.

  • March 25, 2011, 3:07 a.m. CST

    INCEPTION does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    "For a dream, INCEPTION is just too grounded. To Nolan I would repeat his own line, "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling." The reason that bugs me so is here we have a filmmaker that can capture in lucid clarity pretty much anything, and when he creates a property that could deliver anything, he delivers a very limited level of imagination." Harry that's your summation of INCEPTION. Perhaps now you've got SUCKER PUNCH you've discovered that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting?

  • March 25, 2011, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Scott Pilgrim and Sucker Punch both start with SP

    by CT1

    The only "levels" that exist here are the levels of your transparency, Harry, the main Inception itself being "cover your ass" for when Superman time comes rollin' around and it's time to buddy buddy up to Zack "Rockstar" Snyder with this non-review. I do have to commend you on easing up on stirring up the hornet's nest, what with you being able not to mention Inception once whilst almost every other reviewer has pointed out a minor likeness in their reviews. And with having Massawyrm make the sacrifice and be the bad guy by writing an HONEST great review, maybe you CAN bring Gotham back.

  • March 25, 2011, 3:30 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    SP does equal SCOTT PILGRIM / SUCKER PUNCH. But which will bomb harder? btw, I watched JONAH HEX last night out of curiosity... DAMN YOU CURIOSITY!!!!

  • March 25, 2011, 3:44 a.m. CST

    TankGirl

    by Ciderman

    The various opinions on this movie put me in mind of Tank Girl, another like it or (most people) loath it explosion of light and sound, music and and animation, where story and consistency take a back.seat to kicking ass, I am sure you may determine I am a lover of that film! My biggest problem is who to go and see it with that will forgive its sins and love It for the canvas it paints...

  • March 25, 2011, 4:37 a.m. CST

    buddy saw it...

    by SunTzu77

    He thought it was a mess too. All he really said was, "I'm worried about Superman now."

  • March 25, 2011, 5:48 a.m. CST

    If they didn't like it, they didn't like it

    by Sicuv Uyall

    Get a grip, Harry.

  • and take a very serious look at his approach to Superman. Sucker Punch may be the necessary failure he needed to make the Supes franchise great. Remember, they always think in terms of trilogies, so he's got a lot of work ahead of him. I fully believe that Superman will be a great movie, particularly since he didn't write it.

  • March 25, 2011, 7:09 a.m. CST

    LAST!!

    by Tristan

  • March 25, 2011, 7:22 a.m. CST

    I paid to see Snyder's owl movie

    by justmyluck

    Technically, all the renderings and 3-D were ace, but it was just a bore and somewhat confusing due to nondescript owls. Beyond the Rorschach storyline, I didn't much enjoy WATCHMEN. I think when Nena's 99 LUFT/RED BALLOONS popped onto the soundtrack, it tuned me out for good. The reviews on SUCKER PUNCH, which are mostly coming in as pans, seem to agree it's also confusing and has similar pop/rock song issues. I really enjoyed 300 - Snyder had a blueprint with the graphic novel and that helped quite a bit. He has a very bold visual style, but it's becoming apparent he doesn't have a story to tell. I only say this because I think there is real talent there, and maybe it's time to stop jumping from project to project and live a little outside of the green screen stage and post-production labs http://twitter.com/JimCameron/status/32884841095774208.

  • March 25, 2011, 7:32 a.m. CST

    If you believe this to be "wonderland with guns"

    by knowthyself

    Than the shit that makes no sense also didn't make any sense in Alice in Wonderland either. I can't dismiss the movie either. It's weird, it's funky, and its just hard to judge on just one viewing.

  • March 25, 2011, 7:52 a.m. CST

    great-grand-aunt lesbian shock

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    I too, would like to know the outcome to this little nugget of Harry's family history. I couldn't care less if you liked/disliked, or, "respected" this film (or any film for that matter). I stopped caring a long, long time ago. Just don't leave us hanging when you drop something as explosive as your great-grand-aunt getting shocks to, well, shock the desire of snatch out of her.

  • March 25, 2011, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Not a great endorsement of the film. I won't waste my time.

    by vorlonkosh

    Appreciate the insights....

  • March 25, 2011, 8:18 a.m. CST

    HEY HARRY! 95% Of Earth Hates This Flick! You Are In The Minority!

    by Graphix67

    Good Lord... The amount of man-goo that Harry so eagerly loses over some of the most hopeless movies is truly mind-boggling.

  • March 25, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST

    More worth your time than almost anything else so far this year

    by Arteska

    And the number of ignorant reviews out there this morning make it even more so. If anything it seems that a lot of men are either very uncomfortable with the implications made in the movie or literally too ignorant to decipher them. Faraci's is so far the only one with any insight worth your time.

  • March 25, 2011, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Burn, fucker, burn

    by AssyMuffJizz

    I hope every shit that Zack the Hack does burns in fucking hell. I wouldn't piss on that shit to help put out the flames. And Snyder can go fuck himself up in his fucking ass with his shallow ass schemes to rob money from others with his dumb fucking movies. Zack the HACK should shipwreck himself in some deserted island in the middle of the antarctic ocean with Michelle Bay and Jar HJar Abrams without food, so the fucking fucks had to eat each other to survive. And the final sole survivor would then get abducted by aliens and get anal probed. Fuck this fucking clowns and the bullshit they do.

  • March 25, 2011, 9:24 a.m. CST

    There's An Over Abundance Of Trolls Out Today!

    by Real Deal

    Pretty undeserved little fan boy hate. So what if you didn't like the film? Harry deserves an opinion also! If you read around the web he's not the only one who might like it but the jury's still out. I get the feeling it's that kind of film. I haven't seen this film yet. But it couldn't possibly justify the over the top rude crap I'm reading in the talkback. I may not like this film ( once I see it ) but I do like Harry's site. You guys are just lucky we have a place like this to read about films from this perspective. If " Sucker Punch " is a mess it still has to have a lot more going for it than the immature crap I'm reading here in the talkback.

  • March 25, 2011, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Harry the Pedo

    by townshend

    Spot on, mate. I wish some of your posts hadn't been cut off. Harry is a worthless, fat piece of shit. Everyone knows he has no objectivity, and anyone looking to him for movie guidance is misguided. He is nothing more that a starfucking attention whore. I would gladly tell him that to his giant face if ever given the chance. I used to love this site. I feel like it has really deteriorated in quality over the last couple of years. You guys have two excellent, thoughtful writers in Mr Beaks and Massawyrm...and also a wonderful TV guy. That's it. Everyone else should be deeply ashamed every time they call themselves a "writer". Furthermore, there is rarely good reason to visit for news anymore. Everyone beats you to the punch. EVERYONE. And the site really looks old. It is one cunthair more modern than geocities. I respect the love and admiration this site and the people that work for it have for film and pop culture in general. I really do. It is impressive. But it takes more than passion, it takes focus. I would love to see this site be great again, but I think it would take an awful lot of work, a massive decline in ego and hubris, ditching many writers, and getting "spies" that actually produce. While I'm at it, Quint, I love the rare pictures but a monkey could do your job. Some writing classes would do you wonders.

  • March 25, 2011, 9:38 a.m. CST

    lv_426

    by 2007

    interesting theory, however considering the success of both Kill Bill and Inception I'd say..Think Again. to follow your line of thinking. "instead of a heist film ala the italian job...we get the confusing to some, exposition heavy Inception." Genre blending is a gift to cinema not other way around.

  • After this multi-million dollar debacle?

  • Isn't everyone?

  • March 25, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST

    harry blocked me on twitter!

    by Laguna_Nigel

    lol

  • March 25, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    I saw this movie and...

    by Colonel Activity

    Harry is fat and ugly. Enough said.

  • March 25, 2011, 10:31 a.m. CST

    In Harry's defense....

    by v3d

    He is on pain killers.

  • March 25, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I think Harry confuses a glorious mess with a good looking mess

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    which makes a lot of difference. So is this Snyder's Southland Tales?

  • March 25, 2011, 10:40 a.m. CST

    LOL Why YOU MAD THO?

    by doom master

    Again with the hate for this movie.... Not enough cock n nuts for Harry, or any other male on this site...or anywhere else? I havent seen a chick's review of this flick but Im willing to bet its more positive than a man's review. Cmon people WTF were you expecting from the trailer anyway? You want male on male action go watch Expendables or some 80s action flick..... This movie is a Video Game version of Girl Interrupted.

  • March 25, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    I just don't have a Desire

    by Wcwlkr

    I really have no interest whatsoever in this. And to the Inception haters. Nolan gives clear example of how to make a Visually Stunning movie, that is both complex & ENTERTAINING.

  • March 25, 2011, 11:29 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    v3d, in Harry's prosecution I present exhibit A... "At the screening this afternoon though, I was watching the film with a pretty miserable audience. One that certainly didn’t respect the film." You mean, like FALLING ASLEEP during the film big boy??????

  • March 25, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    I agree with some of the comments here...

    by Miss 45

    Sounds like you don't want to offend Mr. Snyder but you didn't point out anything that would make me want to see it. And the reviews ain't good my friend. On another topic, sorry about your lesbian Aunt. That sucks.

  • March 25, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    But yeah, that harry_the_pedo guy definitely deserves to be banned. What a horrible asswipe.

  • March 25, 2011, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Hey cobra, do the hyphens signify anything?

    by Astronut

    Like, how many times you got banned or something? I was just curious, not trying to start anything...

  • March 25, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    doom master

    by AssyMuffJizz

    There's quite a lot about filmmaking that you are still to know, i'm affraid to say. All those Snyder camera and CGi gymnastics, that's not the mark of a quality filmmake,r but one who not only borrows and steals form better filmmaker,s but one who has nothing to say or show and disguises it with show off. That shit might impress the early teens, but as an adult one should not fall for such easy tricks.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    CHOPPAH reviews SUCKER PUNCH:

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    SUCKER PUNCH is conceptually alluring but laborious and visionless. And it is a nightmare for audiences looking for coherent fiction. It's hard to connect with a movie when it tries so hard to fool you; is this a dream, is it not, is it a dream within a dream? Who cares? Just commit to something and get on with it. A crushing bore. Snyder's latest is so slow and so confusing that you may actually fall asleep. Or wish you were really dreaming and could wake up and dream another movie. If you had to explain it to someone--and I'd wish you luck in doing so--you might say it's sort of like Charlie's Angels, but with Nazi zombies, airplane-eating dragons, and whole cities in flame. Only someone who never saw--or appreciated--Dark City would be able to call it visionary. What is the point of having an imagination, I ask you, if the only thing that can be imagined is mayhem, perpetrated without regard for even the appearance of human life? The story--about girls in a mental institution who detach from reality--often sidetracks in favor of cool visuals that don't necessarily make sense. None of this prattling drivel adds up to one iota of cogent or convincing logic. You never know who anyone is, what their goals are, who they work for or what they're doing. By convoluting the various planes of experience, by overlapping and obscuring ostensible realities and ostensible dreams, Snyder deprives us the opportunity of investing emotionally in any of it. If you recall the scene in DAHMER where Jeremy Renner as the deranged killer drills holes into his victims' heads, you'll know what watching this Freudian claptrap of a thriller is like. SUCKER PUNCH is a rather juvenile brain-teaser lacking an effective emotional core but bursting with cool visuals. Unlike the most powerful dreams it doesn't stick with you. If the career of Zack Snyder is any indication, we've entered an era in which movies can no longer be great. They can only be awesome, which isn't nearly the same thing. A false dawn.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Hold on a minute...

    by Lucky13

    You guys are telling me that a movie about hot chics in sexy outfits, fighting hordes of CGI enemies... that happens to be PG-13.... isn't good??? I mean... The movie is supposed to kinda cash in on male hormones, yet offers no nudity or even R-rated violence.... so it basically offers nothing. LOL... think I'll pass, thanks.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST

    ..."Serbian Punch"...That's some funny shit

    by Jeffrey

  • March 25, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST

    The films biggest flaw? Having THREE realities.

    by knowthyself

    Without explaining where the second one (the burlesque house reality) came from. It just appears out of nowhere and suddenly this reality has another reality inside of it brought about by dancing. In order to accept that Alice has gone down the rabbit hole we need a transition scene showing her going DOWN it. Sucker Punch lacks this very important scene and lacks any build up towards it. No chasing of a white rabbit. No drinking of shrinking potion. This huge flaw takes a lot away from the rest of the film.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    What's with all the Harry hating?

    by steve

    You don't agree with him, don't go to his website. I don't get the hate. Trust me, you won't be missed if you go somewhere else.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Harry the pedo. Couldn't we find out who he is?

    by steve

    A journalist did that recently. He was sick of the 'anonymous' insults and tracked some of them down. Of course, when confronted they turned into polite, apologetic little pussies. I'm pretty sure the same would happen with this 'guy'

  • March 25, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Honest Review

    by herman

    It is nice to finally see a review by someone who has seen it and can be honest that it was a good time. I have seen it and it was fun and entertaining.

  • March 25, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    hunter, I couldn't agree more.

    by Astronut

    I'm so sick of the crap posted by that miserable, drunken POS. He contributes nothing substantive or useful to this site... only darkness and deprave.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    astronut, I do not normally speak of those dark days before the dojo, but seeing as you asked... When I first forged Cobra Kai from the assfires of Vindaloo in the land of Krackvunoff the log in didn't work. The dark magic was too mighty. So then I tried again, but now the name was considered taken by the site so I had to add a hyphen. Yet still, the log-in recognized the danger of the dojo and rejected me. And lo on the third try - with two hyphens to my name - I did gain access. And from that moment on nothing could stem the avalanche. Their world crumbled. The cities exploded. A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men. On the roads it was a white line nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice. And in this maelstrom of decay, ordinary men were battered and smashed. Men like Choppah. The warrior Choppah. In the roar of an engine, he lost everything. And became a shell of a man, a burnt out, desolate man, a man haunted by the demons of his past, a man who wandered out into the wasteland. And it was here, in this blighted place, that he learned to live again... But I digress.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Cobra: The arrangement was I wouldn't kill you.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Instead, we shall CHOP together.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Okay then!

    by Astronut

    More than I expected but, um, thanks. Am I reading that right... you're also choppah? My brain is about to explode from that insane narrative.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Its 23% ROTTEN on RT and getting worse!

    by Mr Headache

  • March 25, 2011, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Visionary Director Synder Makes Cheesy 80's style Visuals.

    by Mr Headache

    Nothing new or contemporary about his work.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    CHOPPAH appreciates Snyder, sure.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    CHOPPAH always appreciates an easy target.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST

    A critical re-appraisal of SUCKER PUNCH, from THE_CHOPPAH

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Zach Snyder’s SUCKERPUNCH burst forth onto the screen like so much of my spunk onto the face of an Asian prostitute. 60 caliber loads skeeting her up proper. For all you ‘mo’s out there who adored 300.…just stay the fuck home. Snyder got it right this time by putting a whole shit ton of poon on the screen. The only thing missing was Malin Ackermans bare titties classing up the place. All the triumph of WATCHMEN, DotD, 300 and that owl movie are group sexed together into one mighty soft core wet dream. Emily Browning plays Babydoll. A luscious little bit, that battles dragons (penis), ninja swords (penis), samurai with mini guns (big penis) and never struggles to keep it sexy in the process. Will she make her escape? Will she win in the end? Will she be able to take all of Scott Glenn’s manhood? All these questions keep the plot ticking like a clock. It fluffs, squeezes and strokes the audience to full release. Another paragon of the industry. Hollywood should be throwing coke, hookers, money and any project he wants at the feet of Snyder. Thank God he is at the helm of SUPERMAN. With any luck Cavill will “Oedipus” Diane Lane and then Snyder should work in all these SUCKandorPUNCH bitches into Kal-El’s harem. Well done Zack. Full fledged Choppahood granted. 1,000,000 out of 10 stars. SEE THIS MOVIE.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    A review that suited the movie, I feel

    by david starling

    All I know so far is that this film you may love or hate, but you will have plenty to say about it. I feel the same about Harry's review - but at least he had the balls to say how he felt this time, whatever the reader may feel. Thanks Harry, you've made me want to see the film more than I already do (which was already a lot). Hey, I'll see a film before I choose to criticize it people!!

  • March 25, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    And this is why

    by veritasses

    you can't call him a "great" director. He does do certain things very well. That's evident. But I think those that keep defending him as a "great" director are so enamored by the geek-works that he's helped bring to the big screen as well as all the visual eye candy, that they've become blind, deaf and dumb to his major deficiencies as a storyteller. For Superman's sake, I was hoping this would be something mind blowing. Now, I'm very, very worried.

  • March 25, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    i dont get Harry's taste in movies at all

    by sunwukong86

    seriously Harry, I dont get you

  • March 25, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow

    by Simon Butler

    Did no-one learn anything?

  • March 25, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Great review Harry!

    by sweeneydave

    As much as I love your virutally incomprehensible gushing reviews that you usually give, a calm thought-out review like this is a breath of fresh air. Keep spewing your usual insanity, but don't forget to occasionally toss one of these more focused reviews out there too. I dig it.

  • March 25, 2011, 2:12 p.m. CST

    sky captain?

    by herman

    sky captain was written by 12 year olds, which is why it sucked. sucker punch was made for 12 year olds which is why it is fucking awesome!

  • March 25, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST

    i'm curious why you geeks are worried about superman

    by animas

    the whole superman universe is about as deep as sucker punch, plus it has already been done to death. so, zack is probably still the right shallow director for the job (or any comic book shit).

  • March 25, 2011, 2:34 p.m. CST

    nice re-appraisal, choppah

    by Frank Conniff

    Sucker Punch sounds awesome.

  • March 25, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Don't give these guys your money

    by Sunhawk7

    Nolan is a brilliant filmmaker, but he is nearly joyless. Combine that with a director like Zack the Hack, who has demonstrated time and again that he makes empty, souless movies and you've got two of the worst choices for a movie like Superman. I don't care if Zack the Hack makes endless masturbatory sequels, I don't have to waste time and money on them. But please--- just keep him away from Superman.

  • March 25, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Cut to the chase...

    by Moonrocks

    This movie is about pseudo Anime steam punk chicks in cliche' (though nice cliche') wet dream outfits taking video game monsters "downtown to china town" as Robert DeNiro once said. That's where everyone should let it live.

  • March 25, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Choppah...

    by Moonrocks

    Very fucking funny...

  • March 25, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Wow, yet another FX heavy mess!! Alert the media!!

    by Arkhaminmate001

    Hollywood spends 200 million dollars on SFX & 5 bucks on scripts these days. All the forum bitching won't change that.....The suits in the boardrooms just crunch numbers all day, none give a toss about - story or faithfulness to source material, They all sit. Stroke Chins. Write list of movie requiements SFX/Slooomooo/loudmusic/teenagers/emo angst/SFX/more loud music/productplacement/tieins/SFX/SFX/SFX/sloomoo fight/ if they have any budget left they cobble together some MTV-Facebook hip script (But this is not crucial) then post blogs and swamp forums saying how Kick Ass this new movie is.....sad. Not holding my breath for Snyder's glam rock Superman movie.

  • March 25, 2011, 3:36 p.m. CST

    UDAMAN! I hear ya Bro!! lol

    by Arkhaminmate001

  • March 25, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Harry_the_Pedo's attacks

    by D.Vader

    I thought it was a bit obsessive, but funny. And honestly, he was spreading a bit of truth, I think, regarding Harry's past activities.

  • March 25, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    20% on Rotten Tomatoes and falling.

    by Mr Headache

  • March 25, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    If I were Harry, I wouldn't ban the guy

    by D.Vader

    I'd keep his posts up too. Harry has thick skin. I think not reacting would show the higher character.

  • March 25, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Snyder had to cut 18 minutes out of this movie.

    by Kevin D

    I saw an interview with Zack Snyder a couple of days ago in which he stated that they had to submit the movie 7 times to the MPAA to get their PG-13 rating. He stated that they shot the movie intending it for a PG-13 rating but that the MPAA had huge issues with the overall tone of the movie. He also stated that the director's cut that will be released on blu-ray is a full 18 minutes long. Most of that stuff were things that had to be cut out for rating purposes. He mentioned that there were huge sections of violence that he had to excise to appease the MPAA. So I'm not going to bother with the theatrical cut as it is truthfully a compromised version of Zack Snyder's original vision. I'll just wait for the director's cut on blu-ray to watch it and then make my opinion.

  • March 25, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    follow up to my post.

    by Kevin D

    I meant to type that Zack Snyder's full director's cut is a 18 minutes longER. Not, 18 minutes long. I guess you all know what I meant. Pretty funny how that original post reads though. Ha!

  • Here me Beaks, you cucking funt!

  • March 25, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    redzonecuba

    by Frank Conniff

    But no nudity was cut out? Guess I will pass on the director’s cut too. He should have made it R rated in the first place, anyway.

  • March 25, 2011, 4:15 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    astronut, no Choppah and I are not one. But we are post-apocalyptic buddies. While he's scrabbling for shotgun shells with the bommerang boy, I see myself more as the Gyro-captain, ready to hit and run with the blond ponytail chick.

  • March 25, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Loved it!!

    by LLcruize2

    Saw this at 11am today. I had looked forward to it since the Comic Con footage from last year. It did not disappoint in the least, if anything, far surpassed what I had hoped for. 2011 is starting out great, I hope all the other films on my "must-see" list live up like this one did. I can't wait to get the Blu-ray of this.

  • March 25, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Harry grow some balls and man up!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    What kind of film critic is Harry?? He can't even admit when a bad movie is just a...bad movie! All these excuses he kept making in this review was pathetic! And now he going to IMAX to force himself to like something that he knows stinks! Harry you should feel embarrassed!

  • March 25, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    llcruize, are your a brother of Robert's (Plant)?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Haven't seen you around here before.

  • Get her ponytail caught up in that gyro of yours and she'll stranded in a wasteland of pure grungyfuck bliss.

  • March 25, 2011, 4:42 p.m. CST

    To Christoipher Nolan:

    by AssyMuffJizz

    Dear ;r Christopher Nolan, it's still soon enough to corect the worst mystake in your whole career, the hiring of Zack Snyder as a director for this movie. I really hope he gets replaced in a hurry, like once MCG was for a previous superman movie project. Really, it's something i'll never understand, this constant hiring of hacks to make big important flagship movies, with some notable exceptions liek Nolan himself for the Batman movies. Really, talented directors actually work for this type of movies too, one doesn't need to be reduced to the miserable untalented fucking hacks like Zack The Hack Snyder. The movie is fucked, no matter who is producting or writing it. Nolan migth as well step down from producing and give it to Jerry Bruckheimer, for the hamr that is already done. Goyer migth as well give the writing job to Jar Jar Abrams and Porci and Klutzman, for the harm that's already done.

  • March 25, 2011, 4:46 p.m. CST

    tv.s_frank

    by Kevin D

    No, no nudity was cut out. It was just violence and a lot of the musical numbers got cut out or almost down to nothing. I agree that he should have just gone for a R rating instead and not worried about a PG-13 in this case. This is R rated material no doubt.

  • March 25, 2011, 4:49 p.m. CST

    There's nudity in this? That changes everything!

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • if it was a crappy movie Harry would love it...but because he only likes it then its got to be awful.

  • March 25, 2011, 5:51 p.m. CST

    I loved the action sequences

    by disfigurehead

    Craziness. Giant samurais, zombie nazis, orcs, terminators. Bad ass.

  • March 25, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    You have to be a victim of abuse to understand this movie.

    by antonphd

    I think people who think this movie is hollow completely miss the point, but that's ok. For this movie to resonate with you, you have to understand where these girls are coming from. I was a foster kid and I completely understand this movie and I'm really surprised that Zack Snyder had the nerve to tell this story. This is a story about surviving being traumatically violated. If you have been then you get every single moment of this film. Especially the fantasy. This movie is a basically a little kid's finger painting about what has been happening at home. Zack is a brave person to make this movie. It's not for mainstream audiences. This movie is for victims. Myself, I was choking up at the end watching the girl on the bus. That's the dream of all people in that situation.

  • March 25, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST

    correction: a victim of trauma

    by antonphd

  • March 25, 2011, 7:04 p.m. CST

    braindrain - yes, exactly

    by antonphd

    only it's a fantasy instead of a nightmare

  • March 25, 2011, 7:12 p.m. CST

    thought it was fantastic

    by robamenta

    the more i think about it, the better it is..a rarity these days..gonna see it again in imax, reminded me a bit of terry gilliam early films, a big effects film that is ultimately very touching...

  • March 25, 2011, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Sounds like this one might require a few

    by master_of_realty

    bong rips.

  • March 25, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST

    3 reviews and no one mentions Heavy Metal?

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    Seriously I would have thought that would have been cited as a huge influence on this movie. It sounds like it could have done with been influenced by it even more, actually: Embracing the male-fantasy aspect of it all more fully, having more of that kind of music etc.

  • March 25, 2011, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Superman is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

    by TheNipplesofGodReturns

  • March 25, 2011, 8:47 p.m. CST

    RE: Choppah

    by LLcruize2

    LOL, that is right, I like the film therefore I am a plant. Dude, been around here for awhile. Post every so often. Mostly just read the updates and just come by and watch the sheep as they chew on the grass and let others form their opinions.

  • March 25, 2011, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Harry, did you take medication prior to writing this?

    by Jaka

    Dude. This is so bad I had to stop reading. One of the worst pieces you're written in a very long time.

  • March 25, 2011, 9:22 p.m. CST

    reviews

    by Ripper99

    Wt a lot of reviewers and people look past, is what is the purpose the filmmaker is trying to get across. A popcorn flick? A deep, thought provoking film? Some feast for the eyes and ears? I went to see Battle LA and enjoyed it. Why such negative reviews? Did they go to see Platoon? No...it was a bunch of marines fighting aliens...just as I expected. I didn't expect 2001, I expected an escapist action movie. That's what I got. And I was satisfied. Of course there are some films that go above and beyond what we expect...The Dark Knight...The Lord of the Rings...District 9...but Zack Snyder has not got that rep yet...or the chops yet. Go into these films looking at what the director is trying to do, and you will look at film differently. Not just what gets your balls hard. Have you seen anything Dali filmed? Is he trying to get an oscar? No. What is Zack trying to do? He is ultimately one of us, a fan boy. If any of us had the funds and toys to play with like he does...what would we film?

  • March 25, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Pan's Labyrinth?...So I will be bored.

    by Bartleby T. Scrivener

  • March 25, 2011, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Do they give the audience game controllers?

    by kevred

    Because this looks and sounds just like a video game.

  • March 25, 2011, 10:25 p.m. CST

    A honest geek's vision: my new fave movie of Zack Snyder

    by _Lizarkeo

    And I went nuts for Watchmen (but not 100% nuts. The editing in the Blake's funeral could be better done. The 2 versions of it. Loved the new ending without the squid, but I wanted my bloody "piles and piles of corpses" massacre, heh). <p><p> But SP (Scott Pilgrim? Heh) has ORIGINAL VISION. BAD ASS GEEK STUFF mixed with sincere drama acting. The dude is insane, how could... So, I appreciate more the original stuff. Like Cameron's Mother script (= Aliens). <p><p> I did read all the reviews from AICN (except the last one, from Beaks) before watching myself two hours ago here in Brazil. Nordling was the hopeful one (for me, the fan). Massa, well, after watching myself, I can't fucking understand all the hate. The fella watched another movie, no way. Harry, great review BTW, was the midway. <p><p> Based on Massa and other dudes' reviews, I was expecting a Metal Hurlant(Heavy Metal) kinda of plot: kinda not so interesting (to me). Maybe confusing. Maybe nihilistic. But, dude, the plot on SP is SO FUCKING EASY to follow. Since the beginning the five goals/objects are FUCKING announced to anyone PAYING attention. Even the "big" twist at the ending was foreshadowed. [SPOILER] was using the BabyDoll wig in the start of the movie, duh! The whole thing really happened. It's all explained in the end. It's not a David Lynch movie. Ah, and how about the third crazy dimension? Well, welcome to the CREATIVE WORLD, chumps and chumpettes. If you can't get Parnassus or the other SP, forget about this one. <p><p> And of course Zack did the movie to the women. It´s a movie for chicks who plays (action) videogames. The actresses were all drama good (not Oscar caliber, but not phony or bad acting either). But Gugino was so great (and not because of her usual hotness). Scott Glenn was my second fave (I know, the dude was having fun. When Tarantino gets older, he could play this kinda of role with satisfaction, heh). Jena Malone has the best arch (I am such an emotional dork). Emily kicked all kinds of shiny metal asses, heh. After beating the samurais, I believed she totally could kick Scott Pilgrim's sorry ass, heh. Ok, stop. <p><p> The costumes are sexy indeed (thank Lord Snyder for the fan service), but the word here is RESPECT. Even the dudes weren't total abuser creeps. They beat and kill because the plot demands. If you stay until the last credit (like Harry and me), you can see that Zack did the movie for a very special woman in his life. Damn, even his wife co-produced the damn thing. Kudos for both of them, whatta couple, the best since Cameron and Anne Hurd. <p><p> The insane killings are PG-13 videogame killings: zombies, robots, dragons, monster samurais. To me, the best kind of killing, heh. <p><p> The music was awesome, gotta get the OST. This Tyler dude got three WINS one after another (I love Quake II kinda of tunes with my cinematic action). Along with Bear McCreary and Michael Giacchino, he is my fave genre composer now. <p><p> The photography and the action scenes, no need to state the fucking obvious. I'm still in heaven, man! The robot set could be a lil' bit shorter, but NOW I kNOW: Superman will TOTALLY FUCKING DESTROY on big screen for the first time! Give TDKR to the man next!! <p><p> Cheers.

  • March 25, 2011, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Where is Harry's Rango review?

    by Nathan Adame

    Rango is being overlooked by the man that got me interested in this site over a decade ago for his astute knowledge of film. Rango is a movie that deserves his dissection and yet we get a review for some fanboy wetdream movie that fulfills the movie lexicon far less than Gore Verbinski's labor of love. Where are you Harry and when are you going to review Rango?

  • March 25, 2011, 11:35 p.m. CST

    True… Rango review please…

    by blakindigo

    Did you see it yet?

  • March 26, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Just saw it, and holy crap was it awful.

    by Orbots Commander

    I'll give Sucker Punch this: it had some cool visual concepts and the soundtrack was rocking....and that's about it. It's basically a string of slow-mo music videos strung together into a feature length film. What that film was about, I couldn't tell you, as I lost track somewhere after the 3rd or 4th reality or fantasy that the girls bounced around in. My entire theater was packed and nearly everyone left laughing at how bad the movie was. Just awful. I "get" what the movie was trying to do, but sorry Mr. Snyder, both Nolan's Inception and Scorsese's Shutter Island did the "dream within a dream" thing much, much better. Sucker Punch was just an incoherent mess. Seriously people, save your $8.50 and the two hours of your lives. The movie is really that bad.

  • March 26, 2011, 12:50 a.m. CST

    First post, fun at SXSW & this crazy ass movie

    by Blake

    That movie was crazy. Like, literally insane. So many bad ass things dropped like a glorious turd in a wacked-out toilet wonder land of trauma and hot chicks. It could have been 4 or 5 of the best music videos that have ever been made, but stitched together into this "story"... it was like a hot chick with a skid mark on her white bikini. Sexyyyyyyohmygawd! Just from browsing AICN opinion, it runs the gamut from "artful dissertation on child abuse", to being likened to the fantasies of a "furiously masturbating 13 year old". I can't totally rule either of those summations. My best recommendation if you're just dying of curiosity, is to get wacked out of your mind on the substance of your choice and feel free to take a leak after each of the 4 dream battle things. That's the only way I can see this movie being a truly winnable proposition. And I hate to say it, because 300 is awesome and Watchmen is in my top 10 favorite movies list. Oh yeah, and I'd like to sop Emily Browning up with a biscuit. That girl is a size C set of boobies away from being perfect. Harry: the panel I saw at SXSW was super fun. Definitely cemented the idea for me that it's not just possible to disagree with y'all at times and like you at the same time, it's actually a big part of the fun!

  • March 26, 2011, 1:38 a.m. CST

    iT was something else, not, like the other movies out...

    by The Dum Guy

    A lot of things in this movie is fun to see... I think that taking a few mushrooms of the drug variety would make this the gr3atest experience, unless you can fight a dragon.

  • March 26, 2011, 5:43 a.m. CST

    What were you expecting?

    by Raggles Wimpole

    I place myself in what is probably the minority of people who like Zack Snyder's movies. I thought 'Dawn of the Dead' was one of the few modern horror remakes that actually worked, though it is nearly ruined by having the zombies run. I loved '300' & 'Watchmen' & thought 'Guardians' was a decent kids' movie that tried to return to darker films like 'Secret of Nimh.' If you've been following the trailers, then you know going in whether or not you're going to love it or hate it. I found that the previews do a good job of selling to the audience exactly what they can expect from 'Sucker Punch' : cinematic junkfood. Not every film has to be stuffed with metaphors & symbolism. Every once in a while it's nice to see something that doesn't require multiple viewings to understand. So, consume your choice of chemicals, turn off your brain and let the amazing visuals wash over you.

  • "Harry is humping with cumming on Sucker Punch, but isn't drunk dialing just yet...." <p> "Harry is masturbating with frotteurizing on Sucker Punch, but isn't exposing himself just yet..." <p> "Harry is licking with sucking on Sucker Punch, but isn't deep throating just yet....."

  • March 26, 2011, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Jamie Chung is laughably bad

    by mypalfish

    I got a kick out of the movie since it is really a huge mess, but it's always interesting to watch. However, Jamie Chung might be one of the all-time worst actresses. How on earth did she get this job? She looks like any generic Asian girl you'd see on any college campus.

  • March 26, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Harry's review is far too kind

    by david__001

    Harry's review is far too kind. Personally, even from an early stage, I thought the trailers provided ample warning of things to come. The film itself, in my view, was unsettling, manipulative and disconcerting. The main problem I have with the film stems from its rating. In its *PG-13* form, I found it to be exploitative and seedy. It knows what it is, but it will not place its cards on the table. Instead, there is lots of *implied* happenings (which are grim) and suggestive imagery of course. I have a problem with a big-studio/big-budget movie which purports to be "empowering" to women, when, in fact, it is the *direct opposite* of that. It is the *disingenuousness* that irks me. What is going on in the "real world" during BabyDoll's "fantasies" is grim and nasty -- she is not “empowered” in any shape or form. I am talking about exploitation, subjugation, rape, brain-damage and ultimately death. During the "fantasy" sequences, which are in themselves pathetic attempts to "escape" a grim reality, the girls are dressed-up in hyper-sexualised tight-fitting fetish outfits -- fighting, crawling around, shooting weapons, and generally looking *extremely* hot. We get thigh shots, belly-button shots, ass shots, crotch shots -- you name it. As man, I can say that these girls have *tight* bodies and are very sexy. **HOWEVER**, bear in mind that this is during a film with some pretty seedy elements going on “in reality”. Also bear in mind that this film has obtained a **PG-13 rating**. Then we have the "barely legal"/jailbait-esque BabyDoll, who is dressed as if about to play a sex-game at any moment. In my view, all of these things do not sit well together. I don't have problem with fetish and/or kinkiness. However, I do have a problem with the presentation of these things -- right along-side much seedier elements -- in a “dumb action movie” under a PG-13 guise. Also disconcerting is the thought of younger audiences watching this and the memes that may be implanted (e.g., men are obese, sweaty, feral rapists; women are subjugated, disconcertingly cute victims, who have hyper-sexualised fantasies of themselves kicking-ass in school-girl outfits; retreat to your “happy place” and everything will be fine.) My conclusion is that this film is an incongruous, under-handed and quite disturbing affair, which *should* have went for a strong R-rating. If it were rated R and pressed-ahead to indulge in its own seediness, it would, at least, be slightly more congruous, albeit not much.

  • March 26, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Seriously disappointed

    by aaron

    I really really wanted to like this movie. Me, my wife and a close friend had been super hyped about it since we glimpsed the first trailer. I have read some really hateful reviews and the nerd rage on this site has been overwhelming, but I went in last nite super positive and was hoping like hell the movie would prove all the haters wrong. It short, it didn't. Not by any stretch of the imagination and believe me I can turn my brain off at the entrance just as easily as the next guy. I mean I even own Armaggedon and the directors cut of Pearl Harbor. I was so bored. I have never seen so much stuff being thrown up on screen while falling completely flat. Oh, and Jamie Chung is as "mypalfish" described "laughably bad". I cringed every time a word came out of her mouth. Well heres to hoping Snyder gets back on track with Superman, Nolan better be breathing down his neck the entire time.

  • March 26, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST

    These reviews are why I am worried about Superman

    by richievanderlow

  • March 26, 2011, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Fuck this. I going to see "Zaroz" in 35MM at the Midnight Movie tonight!

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    Enough of this disappointment of the week. I need a palate cleanser. Anyone who lives in the Louisville, KY area, I invite you to join me tonight at the Baxter Avenue Theaters to experience "Zardoz" at the witching hour tonight in 35mm! Full disclosure: I've seen a lot of weird shit, but I've only seen "Zardoz" once many years ago and it was the only film that has ever completed defeated me. I had no idea what the fuck "Zardoz" was all about. Over the ensuing years, I've read a little about it and its connection to "The WiZARd of OZ" and can now understand how it fits in the classic science fiction mold of "Metropolis" and "The Time Machine", but it's still one of the most batshit head scratchers of a film that I've ever seen, and I can't wait to face it down again with a bunch stoned hipsters and nutjob film fans. Who's with me?

  • March 26, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    reluctant austinite

    by ISmith70

    Are you the same guy who replied to my comment on MovieBob's thread on The Escapist? (For those who didn't see it, he also liked the movie, and I thought his review made a lot of great points) Because he also said he was going to see Zardoz. Like I said there, I think comparisons between that movie and Sucker Punch will be apt. Sucker Punch seems to be perceived as a self-indulgent, incomprehensible mess, much like Zardoz was and still is today. But if you dig deep enough, there are some big ideas there that few other movies addressed. And both movies I think are pretty ballsy for what they do, in that both leave it up to the audience to draw their own conclusions rather than spoon-feed them. And where movies like "Brazil" has their protagonists' fantasy sequences take a secondary role of importance, to have them instead placed front-and-center like Snyder is doing in Sucker Punch I think is also pretty gutsy. So I can see in that respect why this movie would be polarizing. Though for the life of me, I don't get where all the Snyder hate is coming from. I liked his DOTD remake, loved 300, and thought Watchmen was brilliant (Owls of Ga'Hoole though was a little too slow-paced for me). He hasn't steered me wrong so far, so I have a good feeling I'll be satisfied with Sucker Punch.

  • March 26, 2011, 3:18 p.m. CST

    ismith70, I'm not that guy, but I am on the yellow brick rode to "Zardoz"!

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    I don't know MovieBob, and I'm not the droid you're looking for, but I will be at the Midnight screening of "Zardoz" tonight at the Apex Baxter Avenue Theaters in Louisville. Like I said, I only attempted "Zardoz" once and it was on VHS way back in the 80s. It blew my mind, but there's no possible way I could have written a plot synopsis at the time because I had no idea what the hell was going on. Floating, speaking heads, Sean Connery half naked with a ponytail, "Prisoner" type atmosphere; that's about all I remember. It was the weirdest film I had ever seen at the time. It should be fun to revisit it with 20 years of education and experience to back my brain up this time. Oh, and Zack Snyder is no John Boorman!

  • March 26, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST

    I just watch Sucker Punch

    by Miguel De Barioz

    My brother get VHS of Sucker Punches - I thought it most thought provoking film I see this year apart from Intreption, Adjustement, and that Dan Shanks film where he steals the bitches dreams. I thought all the hookers were good fun. We only got to watch first 50 minutes because man chase my brother out of cinema. The camera was shaking throughout - I thought this Zac Synder was making movie like Private Ryan & The Germans - I turn out to be my brother pulling away at his Peniellos all the time. Film make no sense though - Like most films nowadays! Maybe when I see full film I will understand.

  • March 26, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    hey Choppah

    by sith_rising

    there were no Nazis in World War 1, you video game playing fucktard

  • March 26, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Hope you get ball cancer xiaolinlijun

    by MagicJesus

  • March 26, 2011, 4:21 p.m. CST

    i didn't hate it, OR like it

    by jules windex

    I saw this today. I thought as a coherent, intelligent film it was way off the mark. But as purely a visual and kinetic film I really dug it. Gugino was awful, but the rest of the gals were complete hotness. Of course, calling this a "female empowerment" story is laughable and we all know it. It is a really neat looking exploitation movie.

  • March 26, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST

    about the end credits (incredible movie.)

    by warrenE33

    i'm curious why you think the end credits were full of deleted scenes, and not designed that way from the start. insider info? I thought the idea was that they were showing us the dance scene we'd been denied during the movie, as a commentary on the idea of credit sequences. a peek into the space you were supposed to be looking during the film proper. Specifically, I assumed the dance/singing were all taken from the performance on stage during babydoll/sweetPea's escape. Ie, I thought we were seeing "the big number" that the heroines avoided. anywho. just curious about this one detail of this review.

  • March 26, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    (er, typo above)

    by warrenE33

    " a peek into the space you were supposed to be looking during the film proper. " was meant to be : "a peek into the space you were NOT supposed to be looking, during the film proper." (more clearly: the film sets you up to see the sexiest sleazy girl dance ever, but instead shows you what she's thinking about during her performance - and you see that her mind is more interesting than her body's dance.)

  • March 26, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    CHOPPAH reviews Zack Snyder's latest masterpiece, The Sucker Punch:

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Sucker Punch takes everything that I hold dear as a both a warrior and as a human man — working hard, contributing to society, not being an entitled cunt like it’s my job — and rapes it to death with a stiletto that costs more than my car. It is 109 minutes long, which means that I entered the theater in the bloom of youth and emerged with a family of field mice living in my long, white mustache. It’s a pity Sucker Punch isn’t a sequel, the number two would describe it in its totality, if you get my drift. Weak though the ordeal has left me, the film has considerably enlarged my turgid dream-life; it has broadened now to admit that scene in which I tell Mussolini, 'And what's more, you can't make a movie that anyone would watch. You old Duce, you.' You can see for yourself how flat that would leave him. Like all of Snyder’s films, Sucker Punch is muddled, derivative, his much-touted compassion strikes me as false (he makes his characters suffer in order to solicit your pity, his highly praised visual acumen — "rhythmic" and "evocative" are the tags that you see most often — comes only at the expense of precision, which is to say, of truth. It would have been more merciful for Snyder to have rented Baby Doll, Sweet Pea, Rocket and Blondie out to the Saw franchise, or to Rob Zombie, so we could watch them get shot in the head or skinned alive by Arkansas rednecks. Everything else in this deadly, brainless exercise in pointless tedium is dedicated to the screeching audacity of delusional self-importance that convinces people the whole world is waiting desperately to watch two hours of platform heels, preposterous clothes and disabused notions. It is to movies what fried dough is to nutrition.

  • March 26, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Movie Rocked!!!

    by hipnosismag

    I loved it. It was a geek's version of 2Fast2Furious but with dragons and zombies and hot babes....its just fun. There are a lot of trolls who just love to hate Snyder, and hell even "babes"...but I loved it.

  • March 26, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST

    What are the rules in these fantasies?

    by lagomorph

    You know, the ones that give the action some kind of weight? At least in Pandora's Labyrinth you feel like the kid might be in some kind of jeopardy. Here, it's just Charlie's Angels... hell, that had more depth. I really like Snyder's work and I even enjoyed some of the visual design but nothing in this movie felt like it meant anything and even the end just hit the wrong note for me. His music choices were also obvious and silly... again. "Sweet Dreams" "Army of Me" "White Rabbit" ugh.

  • March 26, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Synderman next

    by AssyMuffJizz

    I don't understand why Holywood keeps giving this big blockbuster movies based on long established popular multimedia franchise to be made by the people who seem to be the least qualified, in fact the worst qualified, to make them. I don't understand. Is it because all this hacks are incredible bullshiters to can fool the studio suits into their bullshit? Don't the studio executives understand the concept of what is a bad filmmaker besides "guy who did a commercial flop with his last movie"? Are they this clueless? It's puzzling, because contrary to popular belief, the majority of the people who works for the studios are actually smart intelligent hardworking people. Maybe they are also ignorant about other subjects then financing and are a bit touched by madness, but really what's so hard to understand when a filmmaker is an untalented bullshiter hack who amkes crap dumb shitty movies? Don't they care their movies have a modicum of quality? It's not that the bad dumb movies have the complete monopoly of the box office results, smart well made great movies like RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, JAWS, STAR WARS, THE DARK KNIGTH, INCEPTION, DIE HARD and LOTR made a lot of money which put their studios swimming in money. Shoudn't an artisan have pride of his work? Shouldn't an artisan try his best to make the best work possible to the best of his abilties? Should the employer who hires the artisan for a job desires and demands the best work for their investiment? Shouldn't the costumer deserves and demands the best work for their money? Isn't this how things ought to work? Then why the fuck give this movie to be made by a somebody who is a less then capable filmmaker whose movies are made out of trickery and bullshit? Does WB actually hates their superman property and are deliberatly sabotaging it, THE PRODUCERS' style? Is that it? The Snyderman movie is a fiscal trick to escape taxes?

  • March 26, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST

    the end credits show the deleted dances

    by mypalfish

    you can see each of the characters and tiny bits of their specific dances during the end credits. they were all cut from the finished film. i hated moulin rouge, but i actually kind of wish snyder had just left them in the film. he threw everything else against the wall, so why not some musical numbers, too. might as well go full batshit crazy...

  • March 26, 2011, 6:36 p.m. CST

    @majority

    by angry_spacboy

    Well Harry, did they cure your Aunt? Fucking brilliant pal. aic has the best talkbackers, shame the rest is pretty shit these days, with the possible exception of Masas reviews.

  • March 26, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST

    pic of the day is pretty good too.

    by angry_spacboy

    but only for the talkbacks they spawn, not quint.

  • March 26, 2011, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Why is Sean Connery wearing Talisa Soto's "Vampirella" costume in "Zardoz"?

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    Just another question to be answered tonight at Midnight at the Baxter Avenue Theaters in Louisville or on DVD where ever you are. Come back with the answers tomorrow!

  • I'm not trying to say Sucker Punch is shit and Zardoz is awesome, as everyone is free to see both films and make up their own damn mind, but from the reviews of Sucker Punch, it sounds pretty damn senseless and narratively bankrupt.

  • March 26, 2011, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Thank you, halfbreedqueen!

    by Clabog592

    I've been defending this film constantly because most of my friends hated it, and whenever they question Snyder's directing abilities I point out that each of the fights was filmed in a different way, but my friends for some reason, can't see that (and these are a bunch of film students, mind you). So thank you for noticing that as well, I personally thought it was a really nice touch in the film. I think this movie has a lot more to it then people are giving it credit for, and the fact that some people are saying Snyder should never direct again completely baffles me.

  • March 26, 2011, 11:33 p.m. CST

    God help me...

    by Dranem

    I absolutely loved this movie. First movie in a while I just went to see by myself. It was basically and excuse for Snyder to work in a bunch of fantasy motifs and I thought it was really cool. People on the way out were complaining how confusing it was, but it really wasn't. That being said, I think this is a very personal preference type movie and I can't recommend it to anyone. I understand the negativity around this film, but I had too much fun to subscribe to it.

  • March 26, 2011, 11:39 p.m. CST

    ZARDOZ

    by AssyMuffJizz

    ZARDOZ could be considered a great movie. It certainly is a smart and very ambitious one, offering literary hints and references a dozen a minute. It's a movie that is the opposite of many, if it has a flaw is that it has many, many, maybe too many ideas. It's not a movie for everybody (understatment there). Most would probably hate it, i wouldn't be suprised. It's a hard movie to get into, but for those who do, it's very rewarding. And it has Sean Connery dressed as a bride, which is hillarious beyond belief. How can you not love that? And yes there was a giant head in ZARDOZ. A floating flying giant stone head.It was worshipped by murderous barbarians. And it said stuff like "The penis is evil. The gun is good." And vomited guns out of it's mouth. God, i love that movie!

  • March 27, 2011, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Loved it. Saw it twice.

    by Darth Philbin

    Not going to bother to play the "point-counterpoint" game but I figured it all out by dragging my wife the second time around. The movie at it's core is a "chick flick" that is packed full of shit that makes fanboys hard. See the first time I saw it it was at a midnight showing of comc-reading kid-touchers and mouthbreathers and afterwards they were all in the lobby pissed off because there was (a) no sweaty men in loincloths in the film (b) no giant blue dongs swinging around in the film or (c) was no midnight showing of WIMPY KID 2 letting out and therefore no children around to attempt to brush against in the restroom. Now the second time I watched it I brought the wife and the theater was mostly full of normal people - you know like with day jobs and mortgages that marry and date and drink alcohol and vote and pay taxes. After this showing there were like women crying and men wearing baseball caps discussing how awesome the action was. Even 1 of the 3 latino gentlemen that was sitting next to me (that was practically dancing in the aisle during the "Fast Five" trailer as if in the prescence of The Christ) clapped with glee when Babydoll stabbed that dude at the end of the movie. So look here neckbeards, SUCKER PUNCH does actually contain a complex and emotionally deep story presented in typical Zack Snyder ass-kicking fashion. However if you have issues with movies that require you to multitask and use your brain for thought and imagination at the same time then you will hate this movie and you probably hate other shitty movies like A CLOCKWORK ORANGE and BRAZIL and THE ADVENTURES OF BARON MUNCHAUSEN and PEE WEE'S BIG ADVENTURE and THE WIZARD OF OZ and NAKED LUNCH and DONNIE DARKO and MOULIN ROGUE and THE BIG LEBOWSKI because those are too hard to understand as well.

  • March 27, 2011, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Fucking Loved it.

    by Zurge

    Will see it again with my girlfriend, and lady friends.

  • March 27, 2011, 3:41 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    viggeo, friendly advice. Stick to trolling. Comedy really isn't your forte. Cunt.

  • March 27, 2011, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Much better film than a lot of CGI-ridden crap out there....

    by hipnosismag

    People are giving it negative reviews, but it was a much better film (and much more ambitious) than movies the critics loved like Avatar, Inception, and Alice In Wonderland....all which had stories that made little sense or where easily very 1-dimensional films. People love those films but hate Sucker Punch....are they on crack? How about the Transformer movies???? They all were flat-out boring stories with tons of really, really bad blurry CGI and yet people flock in droves to watch that mindless crap, yet say Sucker Punch is bad....are you kidding me? How old are you, 4????? I know this site is filled with lots of very emotionally crippled trolls who hate everything posted because their mommy doesn't let them out after 7pm and because girls think they are fat and creepy, but does that give you the right to knock everything posted? Honestly, maybe you trolls need some mental help...cause in the real world, you act like that you get your ass kicked really hard.

  • March 27, 2011, 9:04 a.m. CST

    I'm curious about the cut musical scenes

    by Carlos Salinas

    How would they fit into the narrative of the film? It seems what Zack Snyder was doing was pretty cut and dry. 5 objects...5 action set pieces (minus 1?). Would they be spread out or take place all at one time? Was there a sub-layer that was removed? The movie is already long, how much would it have added overall? Answer me damn it!

  • March 27, 2011, 9:23 a.m. CST

    "empowering femme fantasy"

    by The Wolf at the Door

    If you mean "empowering your fanboy cock to erection", fine. If you mean "empowering real-life women" ... jeebus, come on. This is as legit as saying that "He's Just Not That Into You" is "empowering" to men by giving men a fantasy in which they're sensitive, caring and ready to make a commitment to a deserving woman ... you know, all those things that men really want to be (as seen through the eyes of single women eager to settle down with Mr. Right). Nothing wrong with fanboy porn (and I'm sure there are certain women who will enjoy this film and may even find it "empowering"), but let's not pretend this is some feminist manifesto, or anything but wank material for guys who think "gender equality" means giving a stripper a long sword.

  • March 27, 2011, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Horrible movie

    by TheDudeinLA

    music video and video game. They could have supplied a game controller! At least that would have been interesting.

  • March 27, 2011, 10:23 a.m. CST

    FOR ME, SNYDER IS 3 FOR 3 IN A BIG WAY. I LOVED SUCKER PUNCH, UNEQUIVOCALLY.

    by BringingSexyBack

    3 for 3 because I didn't see DOTD or the owl movie. My gratitude to Anton for sharing his personal insight. Amidst this overwhelming wave of misguided and unwarranted (and for the most part uninformed) Snyder-bashing, his posts helped me go in with the proper frame of mind to appreciate this story. If you haven't seen SP yet, it would help tremendously to read Anton's take first. He really provides the proper reference to understand that, basically, you are witnessing, from beginning to end, a girl's fantasy used to survive her circumstance and cope with her inevitable fate. It's such a tragic tale. By the end, when Blue kisses her, I was the one feeling violated. But, thankfully by that time, she had already freed her soul from suffering that violation. Now, did the action scenes rock? This is Zack Snyder. Of course they rocked. My eyeballs were fucked deep and proper in IMAX. But, curiously, the lingering feeling after watching Sucker Punch is not the visceral experience of watching a loud, action movie. It is the haunting feeling of identifying with a victim of abuse. If you come out of the movie feeling the way I did, you'll understand truly why it's called Sucker Punch. Sure, it's at 19% on RT. But the audience rating is 65%. That just proves that Snyder has succeeded yet again. I have no doubt Superman will be a triumph.

  • March 27, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    This movie will be gone by next week

    by TheDudeinLA

    just wait and see.

  • March 27, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Your lesbian AUNT, Harry??!!!!???

    by JackSmack

    Is there ANY aspect of your family's history that you won't spill just to pad the length of your reviews? Honestly, this autobiographical compulsion is creepy, Harry. It doesn't personalize your articles, it just makes the skin crawl.

  • March 27, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Donkey Punch? This is a movie??

    by Dark Doom

    Donkey punch is slang term for an apocryphal and potentially lethal sexual practice supposedly performed during anal or vaginal sex. The purported practice involves the penetrating partner punching the receiving partner in the back of the head or neck (what is known in boxing as a rabbit punch, after a technique to kill rabbits). The alleged goal is to cause the receiving partner's anal passage to tense up, thereby increasing the pleasure of the penetrating partner....

  • March 27, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Oooops sorry wrong subject...

    by Dark Doom

  • March 27, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    I refuse to believe that it's worse than 300

    by noiretblanc

    a passably entertaining movie, on the basis of sex kittens being greater than Chippendale dancers.

  • March 27, 2011, 4 p.m. CST

    Harry sugar-coating his words about SUCKER PUNCH. So funny!!

    by AsimovLives

    Read between the lines and what Harry is really saying is "i was pretty underwhelmed, but i can't say so openly because i don't want to burn bridges".

  • March 27, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST

    assymuffjizz, your latest post, the words are familiar to me.

    by AsimovLives

  • March 27, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Sucker Punch made the #2 spot...$19 million for the weekend

    by Billy_D_Williams

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaaaa

  • March 27, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST

    "Apocryphal and potentially lethal sexual practice"

    by BurnHollywood

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

  • Ladies and gentlemen: SUCKER PUNCH. The good: Hawt chicks and cool video game cut scene sequences. The bad: Everything else. The ugly: The creepy misogyny pretending to be empowerment. I'm surprised nobody brought up Pan's Labyrinth or Brazil -- they seem to be closer to what he was shooting for... and missing... by about a hundred thousand light years.

  • ... but so it intelligence and wisdom. The later two Snyder has none.

  • ...makes me think this is actually worth watching.

  • March 27, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Sucker Punch beaten at the box office by Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodrick Rules...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...I feel a Ted Kord Laugh coming on!

  • March 27, 2011, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Asi, re: Hack's wife putting up with things...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...not to mention Hack's flaming gayness and trade school intellect.

  • March 27, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Where is Harry's Rango review?

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    "Saw it, thought it was kinda meh. Meds kicked in and I fell asleep." (Or something similar, I'd imagine.)

  • March 27, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Oh, WB suits? Mr. Nolan?

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    Sucker Punch came in second to a low budget, crappy kid's movie. The world is aking, begging even... can you fire Snyder off Superman already?

  • March 27, 2011, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Nowhere NEAR as bad as expected

    by Behemoth

    "Career suicide." That's how Massa described this? Insane. It was far from a great film, but I enjoyed it heartily.

  • March 27, 2011, 8:35 p.m. CST

    I went there expecting the worst . . .

    by James_Camera_On

    and was sure I would be writing a hate note regarding it here on this very thread. Didn't happen. I found myself loving the movie. Have no problems with it. At. All. The tard critics who bombed this thing need to send back their film school certificates. And to the audiences who are abandoning Sucker Punch, enjoy Transformers III. You deserve it. But on a happier note, congratulations to Mr. Snyder on a great job. Well done, and yes, the suits may well make you pay. It's tragic but that is how hollywood rolls. Let us all weep now for the fate of those who take big risks in the world of cinema. For those of us who love films, their fate is ours.

  • Are you really afraid of offending Zach Snyder AND Seth Rogen that much? Harry, let's bring some integrity back, old chum.

  • March 27, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Risky? Seriously?

    by TheDudeinLA

    How is making a music video and video game risky? How about making a movie?

  • March 27, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Admit it Harry, you're trying too hard to like this crap

    by VermithraxPejorative

    Harry, Your review reads much like my thoughts during the first twenty minutes of this film. I wanted to like it, but the more I tried the mroe I felt I wasn't just merely suspending disbelief, but patronizing the movie. This was embarrasingly bad. I knew I hated it once I realized we were in the second dream sequenceand I would still have to sit through two more. I just wanted the film to end; it was just BORING! WHen you have a film like this, which takes place in an altered state of reality, or not reality at all, you need to ground it in a story and a logic the audience can accept. This movie has no story..."get five items" is about it, and there is no logic. When we view the dream sequences, we know in truth that it is just a bunch of people standing in a room watching babydoll dance. seriously STUPID. I loved 300, thought Watchmen was pretty kickass, but Zak dropped the ball on this once and totally insulted his audience expecting to accept this style over substance abortion of a film. There is no story here; there is no film. It's simply Zak snyder looking for reasons to show cool stuff on screen, but sadly for him, people aren't quite as dumb as he thinks.

  • March 27, 2011, 11:51 p.m. CST

    its good to finally be vindicated

    by Billy_D_Williams

    ive been calling Snyder a hack for years...he got attached to cool properties and geeks started licking his nuts, when in reality, its just the properties...anyone can make something look cool...your crew helps you do that...that doesn't take much skill at all... but can you elevate the material? can you make it special and not just film the storyboard? its what Carpenter did with The Thing...what Spielberg did with Jaws...what Lucas did with Star Wars...what Zemeckis did with Back To The Future...what Scorsese did with Goodfellas, what Cameron did with The Terminator and on down the list...Snyder hasn't even made a movie approaching those levels of genius and he's lauded as some visionary God's gift to cinema...and im glad to see that glorified 2nd unit director falling on his face. I even think Michael Bay is better than he is...and thats saying alot. Say what you want about the man, but he elevates the material...his first few movies anyway. Snyder is fucking tone deaf and tone is probably the most important sense you need as a director. I mean, the guy put the Dylan song "The times, they are a changin" over a montage of the times changing in Watchmen. Thats the mark of a bad filmmaker...no grasp of subtext or tone...heavy handed, ham fisted...a child driving the power loader from "aliens"

  • March 28, 2011, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Warner gave a blank check to a retarded neanderthal

    by chien_sale

    Who has Snyder blow to get this much play?

  • March 28, 2011, 12:59 a.m. CST

    I know to disregard fan criticisms

    by pax256

    What that abortion of a director Michael Bay is said to be better than Zach. Sorry But Zach has made good to great flicks since DOTD. Bay has made vomit in *everything* Ive seen since that godawful Pearl Harbor. If SP is his weakest film it very much will likely be better than *anything* Bay has done in the last 15 years.

  • March 28, 2011, 1:40 a.m. CST

    pax256

    by Billy_D_Williams

    The Rock, Bad Boys and Bad Boys 2 are all very good action films...after The Rock, Bay kind of went off the rails, but Snyder has yet to make anything interesting...he's just not very good. at all. in fact, he sucks. alot.

  • Connery couldnt save that action crap. So far DOTD is Zach's weakest film and it shines above anything Bay has made. And no it has nothing to do with my obscene love for modern zombie flicks. Screw the critics. The critics abhore Highlander. Its one of the best genre flicks ever. I distinctly feel SP will find its way into the hearts of genre lovers after some repeat viewings and a dir's cut Bluray along the way.

  • March 28, 2011, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Highlander is 7.2 at IMDB at 43 000+ votes. I rate it a 9.

    by pax256

    SP a close 6.8 at 5600+. Give it time I say.

  • March 28, 2011, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Zach does better action than Bay...

    by pax256

    And you care for his characters more. That last is not the cornerstone of a great action flick. Good characters and bad action will always sink an action movie. But without it like in Bays' flicks where its absolutely absent its no comparison.

  • And i have yet to like an action movie where i didn't give a care about the characters. It's fundamental that i like the characters or at least find them interesting. Without that, action movies are just a bunch of shit blowing up, and that type of crap doesn't interest me because i'm no pyromaniac.

  • March 28, 2011, 3:55 a.m. CST

    harryknowlesnonexistentinceptionreview

    by AsimovLives

    Snyder dosn't have trade school intellect. It's mor elike kindergarden. i have a 4 years old nephew who comes up wiht ideas like in Snyder's movies. They are to be expected in a 4 years old, but not on a guy pushing 40.

  • March 28, 2011, 4:02 a.m. CST

    @ beaverduck

    by sai_justin

    Wha--? You have no idea what your talking about, and your incoherent ramblings make you sound f*cking retarded. Sorry if the character development & CGI in my post isn't good enough for you, you incredible tool.

  • March 28, 2011, 4:07 a.m. CST

    @ viggeo_morgenstein

    by sai_justin

    Shut. Up. Your lack of self-esteem is showing.

  • March 28, 2011, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Looks like it's going to bomb: beat out by Wimpy Kid

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    SP couldn't even pull in over $20 million. With a projected budget of just over $80 million, bad reviews and not too enthusiastic word of mouth, this looks like it's heading to be the second biggest box office bomb of 2011 thus far. (The first is Mars Needs Moms.) Even more of an insult to SP: Diary of a Wimpy Kid made back its budget already! Egads.

  • March 28, 2011, 6:27 a.m. CST

    bringingsexyback is clearly Snyder in disguise

    by Wonderboys

    Let it go... Snyder is a hack, even worse than Michael Bay...

  • March 28, 2011, 7:28 a.m. CST

    mattman

    by AsimovLives

    I'm sorry you had a bad weekend, but really, trying to chill out and make the problems go away by watching a Zack Snyder movie? Wrong move. I wouldn't be suprised at all if you came out of the movie feeling more depressed then when you entred the theater. Because, for me, that's what i feel everytime i see a bad movie made by an hack boy like Snyder: they depress the shit out of me.

  • March 28, 2011, 7:30 a.m. CST

    pax256

    by AsimovLives

    You are right about Michael Bay but wrong about Zack The Hack. But i give you this, Snyder is better then Bay, but on account that nobody is worst then Bay.

  • March 28, 2011, 7:33 a.m. CST

    billy_d_williams

    by AsimovLives

    There is no such creature as a good michael bay movie. They are just various degrees of awfulness. A good michael bay movie is like the unicorn, it's this mystical thing that some seem to believe it exists, but which there is none such thing in real life.

  • March 28, 2011, 7:35 a.m. CST

    braindrain

    by AsimovLives

    The case of the reception of the first Bayformers movie is an interesting case. If you read the reviews, the positive reviews, they really just say one thing only: the effort many made to try to like the movie and find the most strange and nonsequitur justifications to give it a good review. Basically, people making an effort to like the movie. Periodically, such a thing happens. Why it's so, i haven't a clue.

  • March 28, 2011, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Wimpy Kid beat Sucker Punch?

    by jimmy_009

    Eesh, that's embarrassing. I consider myself a geek, I actually like Zack Snyder movies, and this STILL held zero interest for me. I guess I wasn't alone.

  • March 28, 2011, 10:21 a.m. CST

    The only thing I trully hated about Sucker Punch was the end voice over.

    by noiretblanc

    The movie could've done without the beginning voice over too. Other than that, I enjoyed the movie. It's not as bad as people make it out to be, but it's not an excellent movie either. It's better than most mainstream movies: blockbusters or genre-fares. In a broad sense, it's the top of the bottom of the barrel, which makes it mediocre; though, on a personal level, I think it's better than that; I like a wide range of movies for my own reasons, not a vague general consensus.

  • March 28, 2011, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Harry The Shill

    by Dyslexic Palindrome

    Sure thing Harry. Maybe it would've been better if there were Werewolves and Vampires, like you wanted in 'Matrix Reloaded'. The movie sucks and instead of admitting it, you complain about the attitude of the poor schmucks who just sat through 109 minutes of mental anti-freeze. Since when did being a lover of film require a lack of integrity? I don't mean to sound disrespectful and I apologize for my rudeness, but this movie could easily have been so much more. However, it wasn't. And comparing it to Inception is a total and complete insult to film in general.

  • March 28, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Sucker Punch needed some better budget management.

    by knowthyself

    If it only cost 45-50 this opening weekend would have sat better with the studio execs. How did this thing balloon to 85 mil without a single star and special effects that are pretty normal.

  • March 28, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    The reason inception succeeded where SP failed.

    by knowthyself

    RULES. Nolan always made sure you understood the rules of his dream universe. Snyder never explained to you how or why anything in the movie happens or how it connects to the real world or why each reality even exists. He never sets up the rules of his world and thus the viewer always feels lost and confused as to why they should care or what is and isn't happening on screen during the fantasy sequences. Nolan also added the element of danger to the dream world. Something SP lacked.

  • March 28, 2011, 11:31 a.m. CST

    CGI has become a soulless can of Tuna!

    by Orionsangels

    CGI has become a soulless can of Tuna, that gets churned out by the millions at the factory. The problem is it's so easy to create. That it's creators barely have to struggle to create it. You take classic movies like Star Wars or even Jurassic Park. The special effects makers had to create the effects as they were making the movie. Their heart and souls went into making those special effects. It was an uphill struggle all the way. There's nothing like a challenge to bring the best out of someone and that's why we have those magical special effects. Today it's so easy. The only challenges a special effects artist has today is what the special effect is going to look like and what it's going to be doing. It's certainly not whether they can do it or not. (Edit comment)

  • March 28, 2011, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Was taken to this film last night against all of my warnings

    by UltraTron

    to everyone that there were no good reviews. Yet these people taking me just had to see it. So I went in with no expectations. Knowing how bad it was going to be I was able to enjoy things in the sound design and some aspects of the film while they were completely tortured by something not as good as any sequence in uncharted 2. I'd say the superhero action is refined to a new level of polish and some of the best ever -but it's completely empty of any element of danger. If it were wonder woman fighting superman and then they fuck while shattering a mountain it would have been great. Go back in time and make that instead

  • March 28, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    by Jake Pantlin

    Sucker Punch is a dreadful film. I went with my brother an saw it at the IMAX. I don't think I've ever been so bored at a movie in my life. None of teh characters are fleshed out. Baby Doll - the lead character - is so fucking boring. I loved that they added a voiceover to say she was "20" when they are checking her form for the asylum. Oh please... it was clear she was suppose to be a teen - 18 at most! And you never see her dance once, yet we have to look at all these stupid expressions on the actors faces who have just seen her dance (presumably when she is fighting in the other world). What the fuck? If the actress can't dance, get a fucking body double to do some moves like they did for Natalie Portman. Hell, you never see ANY of the girls dance. You just hear them talk about it. It's lazy filmmaking. And that stupid "dance routine" at the end during the credits was pointless. The editing is done so fast that you still don't see anyone dancing. Don't try to fool your audience in such a pointless fashion. Don't get me started about the costume designs. Nothing was sexy or risque. It was all paint by numbers. Every costume was forgetable. Not one original image in the film. Man, what an insulting film. Completely void of story. After the show, I went and saw HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN, and it was fucking fantastic. Definitley helped get the bad taste of Sucker Punch out of my mouth. That film got huge applause at the end, and people were cheering throughout. Sucker Punch was like leaving a funeral. Do yourselves a favor - if you have to see a movie this week, see HOBO! It was fantastic. Sucker Punch - christ - you will feel like you were sucker punched after seeing it.

  • March 28, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Do yourselves a favor - see "Hobo with a Shotgun" instead!

    by Jake Pantlin

    It is a million times better than Sucker Punch.

  • March 28, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    orionsangels: just shut the fuck up.

    by UltraTron

    Yes I'm talking to you- FUCK WIT. Where did you hear that opinion I wonder. How bout bitching about movies that use natural candlelight to light scenes. The pr

  • March 28, 2011, 12:44 p.m. CST

    The problem with candlelight is that it's so easy.

    by UltraTron

    All they have to do is light a match.

  • March 28, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    The only headline I want to see on AICN now is this...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ..."Zack Snyder Off Superman"

  • March 28, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    I think the critics and fanboys are being way too harsh.

    by sweeneydave

    I saw it this weekend. It reminded me of the film Fantasia. A series of musical vignettes that are entertaining and beautiful to watch. But they need to be watched separately. Maybe one a day. Or one a week. I love Fantasia. I could just pop it in the DVD player and watch it. But I will never watch it from start to finish. It's just too much and it will put me to sleep. That's Sucker Punch.

  • A similar flop at the box office, and this one pounded by a kids/family flick with the title (which seems kind of ironic in this context) Wimpy Kid. Critics have put down SP (Sucker Punch) as looking like the cut scenes of a video game, and you know what? I think Sucker Punch would be a far better and more enjoyable concept as a video game. The friend I saw this with came up with an excellent description: This is like a bad movie based on a popular video game, but in this case there isn't a video game. They skipped that part. What I saw on the screen was a waste of possibilities. Sucker Punch should have been a simple Wizard of Oz type of tale set in one otherworldly setting -- perhaps the heroine and her friends are transported to an actual other world realm, that is futuristic, where a war is raging. This could have played out as an homage to Oz, Barbarella, Heavy Metal, the 80's Flash Gordon movie, Zardoz, Tank Girl, etc.. Snyder needed to keep this shit simple and coherent. Also, it should have been either Jena Malone or Abbie Cornish as the lead.

  • March 28, 2011, 2:17 p.m. CST

    I liked 300, Watchmen, and I still have faith in Superman being good...

    by Jake Pantlin

    All that said, Sucker Punch sucked balls. God that movie pissed me off. Did I see potential on screen? Sure. But why should someone pay good money just to see "potential" on the big screen? The story was dreadful (ie: their was no story). This movie was all about the special effects, and in truth, most of those effects were not that special. No movie should ever just be about FX. You have to tell a good story if you want to really capture the imagination of the audience. This movie is not one that will be remembered fondly by the masses. I can't even see it developing a cult following. The film is a mess.

  • March 28, 2011, 3:15 p.m. CST

    atheron...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...You're a victim of "magical thinking" then. Sorry.

  • March 28, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST

    I'm proud to say that I'm one of the minority...

    by wacko3205

    Who shelled out the $9.75 for the matinee, the $3.25 for candy, & $4.00 for a small white cherry icee...& to be honest...I was the most pissed off about the cost of the icee & candy. Sucker Punch aint all that bad. At the end of the day...YES...it's a bit of a brain turner offer...but therein lies the issues. Amidst all the breasts, bullets, & multiple bustiers...there IS a plot & there is a lot more to be seen than what’s slammed in your face in all its CG glory. I was well prepared to hate it...I really was...but I think that all the negative reviews & the fact that several of my chums left without a clue as to what the hell was going on. The bulk of that began directly after the High Roller was about to drive an orbitoclast directly into Baby Doll’s prefrontal cortex...for those that haven’t seen it...that’s in the first ten minutes & that’s when everything goes crazy after that. I’m not here to write a review or bash anyone/EVERYONE (!!!) that hated it...but more so...I can see why many of you didn’t like it...but I’m sure that there are plenty of people out there that did like it & honestly...I didn’t feel quite as robbed by Snyder as I did the concession standers. If anyone was rapped...on film or not...it was me. Go see it...its loaded with lots of fun shit.

  • March 28, 2011, 4:19 p.m. CST

    mattman

    by AsimovLives

    Hey, friend, easy. I go to the movies to be entertained, what else would it be? But bad blockbusters from hacks don't entertain me. Why should i be such an "avis rara" for feeling like that? And easy on the hostility, friend.

  • March 28, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    atheron

    by AsimovLives

    You will love to know that it took years for Snyder to write the story of SUCKER PUNCH. Years! Like, 5 or 6. Think about it.

  • March 28, 2011, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Zacky Snyder and his CGI toys

    by AsimovLives

    It seems that nowdays Snyder and his AICN fans think of him as this CGI virtuoso, who pulls amazing CGI stuff in his movies. Well, last weekend i saw a real CGI virtuoso who mannaged to create amazing CGI with the budget of a lunch, by the filmmaker himself. That film is MOSNTERS. And that's even more amazing about that movie is that it was directed by a CGI animator, and yet he made a movie where the CGi wasn't the focus at all but this two human characters, and the movie was their story. THe CGI was just there to support the story. So, a CGI SFX tecnician showed more sensebility and filmmaking flair with a micro-budget then any thing Snyder has ever mananged to do with millions and millions. But Snyder is the one called a visionaire. Bullshit!

  • They woulda delivered the goods, and did it artfully (or trash-artfully), and made an exceptional, interesting film.

  • March 28, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Sucker Punch.. this decade's Blade Runner

    by tailhook

    People forget that when Blade Runner came out, it tanked. Its still unwatchable to me and most people(I try every now and then but it bores me to tears), but for a growing minority they seem to enjoy and 'get' it. Even more will claim they like it just to not go against the perceived grain and be 'part of the crowd' but wouldn't watch it again if you paid them. Sucker Punch is going to be quite similar, it'll be remembed in the same vein as the years go by and people discard the baggage they brought that skewed their perspective.

  • March 28, 2011, 7:58 p.m. CST

    I really liked "Dawn of the Dead"... a lot.

    by ufoclub1977

    and I think "Watchmen" was visually admirable, even if certain choices (like the sex scene on the owl ship are laughable), and even there's a sense of energy zapping pretention to the whole thing - that could have been avoided with sticking more to the simple, crisp DC feel of the comic. And "300" is like a pop Frazetta-land come to life. That's not easy, and it has been influential. I wouldn't consider this director to be a hack at all. I guess the best way to tell is to see what he would do with an ultra low budget. You know, where his core personal authorship is forced to surface.

  • March 28, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    tailhook...'This decades Blade runner'? you MUST be joking.

    by warpspasm

  • March 28, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    @reluctant austinite

    by Zardoz5

    "Zardoz speaks to you, His chosen ones."

  • March 28, 2011, 9:16 p.m. CST

    I'm not.

    by tailhook

    ... and don't call me Joking.

  • Fuck, even transformers or inception. This is like an 80's boyband video, cheap and nasty.

  • March 28, 2011, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Warners are laying shit eggs apparently!

    by Mr Headache

    Blades will swing, heads will fall. They spent another 60-80 million on marketing..ouch.

  • March 28, 2011, 9:47 p.m. CST

    HATERS ARE MORONS

    by PRESIDENT BALTAR

    Anybody who comes to this site is supposedly a film geek. How anyone can consider themselves as such, and not love "Sucker Punch boggles the mind. Honestly, what's not to love? Any one of the short fantasy sequences has more action, better special effects, and cooler moves than any other fantasy movie does IN IT'S ENTIRETY, EVER. All of you fake ass, impostor "geeks" who are bashing this film should be ashamed of yourselves. This movie represents everything you have ever asked for, or wanted to see. And it is absolutely incredible.

  • March 28, 2011, 11:03 p.m. CST

    and now, with the LAST WORD, frank cotton...

    by frank cotton

    appears that the majority of the, fucktard haters, must be of the, 'keep 'em bare-foot and pregnant', ilk. ilk. sounds, like something you'd, scrape, off, the bottom of your, shoe...hell, maybe you'd, want to just, throw the shoe away, get yourself a, new pair, forget, about that, shit, you, stepped in, entirely. i've got, news, for yous, boys; the stone age, ain't comin' back. can't just, grab 'em by the hair and, drag them off to, wherever, for, whatever, ya know. EVOLVE. OR DIE. the choice, is, as always, up to YOU

  • March 28, 2011, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Let's face it

    by Teddy Artery

    The general reviews of this movie have not been kind, and that level of dissatisfaction is a darn good indicator of a sloppy trainwreck (if I may mix metaphors).

  • March 29, 2011, 1 a.m. CST

    looked awful from the get go

    by IndianaPeach

    i'm amazed they pulled in 18 mil opening weekend. There is no demographic for this movie...maybe pervy late 30's? Superman is roooned...roooooooned i say.

  • Harry said he didn't like inception mainly because it wasn't imaginative enough with the dream sequences. Hate Sucker Punch all you want but the imaginary landscapes where full of giant samurais, dragons, people jumping from planes to the ground with no repercussions, etc., very dreamlike. So everyone asking, "Harry hated inception, but he respects Sucker Punch?", yeah, pretty clear cut as to why there's a difference in review. 

  • ........................WHAT

  • March 29, 2011, 7:14 a.m. CST

    inception needs more gore n more girls........zombies too

    by ORIONgods

  • March 29, 2011, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Sucker Punch Is Not Going To Be Re-evaluated ala Blade Runner

    by NeonFrisbee

    It's going to be utterly forgotten as anything other than another in a long line of disappointments. I suppose it could grab some kind of cult following, but I think it's gonna be a pretty small cult. There will be a ton of girls dressed as Baby Doll next Halloween, though. So there is that to look forward to. I dunno, maybe if this rumored 18-minute-longer director's cut somehow miraculously fixes everything that's wrong with it, then maybe, *maybe* it will gain some more respectability. But I doubt it. Sometimes a turd is just a turd and that's it. It's not like people didn't "get it" -- they got it, and judged it a failure. And it is. An unmitigated one. An embarrassing one.

  • March 29, 2011, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Show me your moves!

    by Christopher Bynum

    Donkey kick! Donkey kick! hoouh! Donkey kick! Donkey........Punch! Punch! Punch!Donkey........Punch! YES! Donkey kick! hoouh! Donkey Kick........HOOAAHHH!!!!

  • March 29, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST

    I *highly* doubt many girls will be dressing as Baby Doll this Halloween

    by Jim Jam Bongs

    Frankly, I found SP insulting to young women in a patronizing way, and I am certainly no male-feminist type. This movie is simply un-sexy. I predict more girls will be dressing up as Nina from Black Swan. That character to them is like the way Ledger's Joker was to young guy geeks who dressed up like him for Halloween and cosplay conventions.

  • March 29, 2011, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Oh, I Agree It Was Insulting To Women

    by NeonFrisbee

    But they're still going to be dressing up as Baby Doll on Halloween. It's about attracting suitors and being the center of attention. I mean, you've seen the various iterations of Sexy (Fill In The Blanks) costumes, right? Sexy Schoolgirl is one of the biggest sellers. Maybe *some* girls will dress up as Black Swan (which, imho, sucked just as badly as Sucker Punch), but most are going to go for some iteration of sexed-up whatever. I mean, you know, the sexy girls or girls who want to be perceived as sexy.

  • And, really, what is it about Baby Doll's appearance and outfits in SP that stand out, which are memorable? I cannot recall. Any girl dressing as Baby Doll may as well just dress as "generic bimbo ho" (which I have no problem with).

  • March 29, 2011, 3:25 p.m. CST

    The Movie Will Be Forgotten, I Agree, But Her Costume Won't Be

    by NeonFrisbee

    Again, Sexy Schoolgirl. But Sexy Schoolgirl with a sword and gun! I mean, okay, basically its an anime trope that's been done to death, but I could see it being a big Halloween costume thang. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like that's the one thing that will linger in the mass pop-culture mindbrain; especially considering that the dvd will be out by then. Again, admitting that I could be wrong.

  • March 29, 2011, 7:02 p.m. CST

    This will be a cult movie, like Blade Runner or...

    by Van_Dammes_Forehead_Lump

    Kick Ass.. That having been said, I fucking MUST have it on Blu-Ray.

  • March 29, 2011, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Even the presence of T&A couldn't save this

    by bobsjohnson

    It was a lot of schlock. There were no consequences to anything happening. Even when characters were killed, going back into the "third" level of reality, you knew what was going to happen. By the end I was so bored, even by the "third" reality, that I was looking up at the ceiling. Even the girls weren't enough to save it for me.

  • March 29, 2011, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Oh my, Harry!

    by IKilledSuperman

    Your writing is atrocious. Your punctuation and grammar are all over the place, and the whole thing doesn´t have any structure. Commas in the wrong places, constant switching of "that" and "who".....Jesus Effing Christ. After muddling through half of the text I even scrolled up to see if you are really the author of this (not so glorious) mess. There are whole sentences in your review that don´t even make any sense.

  • March 29, 2011, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Or as you would say

    by IKilledSuperman

    There are literally very whole sentences in your review who don´t even very definitely make any lots of much sense.

  • March 30, 2011, 5:49 a.m. CST

    having not seen this...

    by bowtiehoon

    I don't understand the love for pan's lab and the late for this...both with most of the movie in the main character's mind...both pointless...just saying...

  • March 30, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    hatethenet... despised movies...

    by tailhook

    You need to go no farther than TRON. God that movie was H-A-T-E-D when it was released. Its one of the things i vividly remember, everybody and his dog saying how stupid and unrealistic the movie was. Same thing with The Black Hole. Its only through retconning that geeks tried to convince people this type of movie was in any way popular on first release. They weren't. Their fanbase grew over time. Heck, The Terminator was a dud on first release. It grew legs on video and through premium channels in the years following its release. Oh, and the only people that even remotely liked the Dune movie were those who had read the book and could somewhat follow what was going on. To everyone else it was simply an incomprehensible mess.

  • March 30, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    neonfrisbee, look up what the word "unmitigated" means.

    by BurnHollywood

    That is all.

  • March 30, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Spoiler - my take

    by inneeduvasuperhero

    It's all in the head of the boy on the bus. Sweet Pea see him in Nazi Zombie land and again getting on the bus. Baby Doll states it's not her story. The fantasy worlds are not from the mind of a girl in the 30s, but from the mind of a young boy that dreams of warrior strippers but isn't ready to see them naked yet. Every time Baby Doll starts to get sexual we cut to fantasy land. Young boy sees hot woman (Sweet Pea) all alone looking sad on the bus, dreams up a wild fantasy about where she came from, and why she is so sad. That was my take anyway.

  • March 30, 2011, 6:25 p.m. CST

    snyder: all style no substance..hollow films

    by FleshMachine

    and he's doing superman...bummer

  • March 30, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    any film that is described as "looking great"...actually sucks.

    by FleshMachine

    this looks like that film

  • March 30, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST

    re: blade runner comparisons: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

    by FleshMachine

    puh-lease kiddies.

  • March 30, 2011, 8:22 p.m. CST

    The funniest part...

    by tailhook

    there really isn't even a lot of tits and ass. Certainly not in a way that is meant to titillate. The outfits were certainly sexy but not overtly so. Its like those who tried to claim Hitgirl was meant to titillate when she was completely covered pretty much from head to toe and brought no sexual connotation. See, the problem is in the interpreter... not the content itself. Its like women can't be violent and look good doing it without people claiming it was meant to get the boys off. Trust me, in this movie.. it wasn't. But hey, if thats your hangup(and really, guys can get off to ANYTHING), grab the kleenex and find a corner.

  • To quote Mr. Spock: "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."

  • March 31, 2011, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Harry must be on some good drugs

    by rollermonkey

    For this to be watchable to him. The audience hated it because it's a horrible, horrible movie. Superman is so screwed...

  • "...For Uncomfortable Feelings Towards Another Man's Body". This isn't 4chan, dumbfuck..."gay" isn't an epithet here.

  • March 31, 2011, 9:16 p.m. CST

    HAHAHA "an anthology of empowering femme fantasy" HAHAHAHAHA

    by kateowyn

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA You've got to be fucking kidding me. There is nothing empowering about this fucking bullshit. I know for me that when I imagine kicking ass in trench warfare, I am NOT wearing a fucking mini skirt and just hoping some 14 year old boys will masturbate to me and then wipe their cum into their comic books. SICK. This movie is fucking awful. Anyone who thinks this empowers women is a misogynist. End of story.

  • March 31, 2011, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Super Underwhelmed

    by Terminocity

    One can only hope this is a lesson for Snyder on his limits: http://tinyurl.com/3dsfb5h

  • April 1, 2011, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Unmitigated = Absolute

    by NeonFrisbee

    Ergo, absolute failure. Your point?

  • April 1, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST

    "Sucker Punch" movie review cartoon

    by AssWhole

    Found this today, a different take on this abomination: http://fb.me/Tz1GAYmo

  • April 1, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST

    It opened in the UK today, and so I went to see it.......

    by david starling

    .......Granted, its a mess, but its a highly entertaining mess. To me it felt like an extended pop video, which I'm sure is not what the director had in mind. My main issue was that the "dream" sequences were hugely breathtaking stylised fuckups in their own right, mixing up some amazing moments. Its a shame the plot and pace in the "reality" segments was so disjointed, they felt unexplained quite often, and there wasn't the room to breathe, and thus provide a reasoning for the viewer to properly make up their own minds. I enjoyed what I saw, but I would be interested to see the director cut - if, indeed, there is one. Oh, one more thing!! For those that actually saw it, did you see the young Rorschach climbing on the bus? Same kid that was in the opening credit montage of Watchmen!!

  • April 1, 2011, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Sucker Punch, to me, makes "sense" on a very metaphorical level...

    by kK stoned

    First, I want to address something with regards to the multiple "MacGruffins" in Sucker Punch: to me, it didn't make sense for these girls to gain these items in the brothel reality, because why couldn't they just get them easily? I mean, getting "fire".... why not just get a match? BUT, you have to realize how it all connects to the mental institute--since the brothel reality is what Babydoll places as a skin over the mental institute reality, those items they are trying to get actually are difficult to get in the asylum--which is the real world backbone to the brothel reality, but it all correlates. So, when they have to get fire, you have to think about that it's gonna be difficult to get fire in the hospital. I wrote a review of Sucker Punch that you can find in the link below; I'm curious as to y'all's thoughts: http://www.barkingherald.com/index.php/2011/03/29/sucker-punch-my-review/#more-498

  • April 2, 2011, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Why do people love Inception & Shutter Island?

    by alpha

    Seriously? I thought Inception was beautiful but much like Shutter Island I thought it was a mess. Shutter Island - I called the plot in the first scene on the boat and then watched it as it tediously unfolded until it's final annoying resolution. The whole thing was basically Angel Heart without the cool voodoo elements. Inception was cold. It looked beautiful but not once did any of the characters have an iota of true emotional resonenace. That's partly DiCaprio who basically plays everything in a way that detaches me and secondly the plot which disconnects you from them as people because it's likely they aren't really the people you are seeing. I'm of the school that believes that DiCaprio was the victim in Inception and it was in fact Murphy who was working with his team to confuse Leo ... if you watch the sequence where he gets off the plane there is enough evidence to suggest that as one of the possible solutions. I liked that you could interpret the ending as you liked but it still didn't matter so much because I really couldn't care less about any of the characters. In Sucker Punch at least there was an attempt at emotional connection. It is by no means perfect but it's exactly what Harry said it was, a great attempt that almost but never quite succeeds in pulling off what it's trying to achieve. I think Harry nails the kind of feeling it creates. It's not a great film but it did try to be one. All three films have huge flaws but out of all of them at least Sucker Punch made me care a little about the characters.

  • April 2, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    I've never seen Shutter Island

    by david starling

    Mind you, everyone who's seen it has told me its very similar in feel to the Cape Fear - which, if true, fills me with dread - couldn't stand Scorcese's Cape Fear, it was a long, boring, trawl, if felt like it was being narrated by William Shatner, after he had been fed sedatives. Thinking about Suckerpunch the day after having seen it, I can only think about the brilliant, and the ill-realised - however, for a film to make me think like that, has succeeded in some way - I saw Battle:Los Angeles a few weeks ago, and although it was entertaining, the moment I left the cinema I forgot about it completely. I saw Monsters last weekend, and that blew me away - Suckerpunch isn't on the same plane, but both films are very different. Can I ask lastly: why is Snyder being villified? I can think of worse crimes for movies, and directors. Even if he is only provoking his audience into arguments, surely thats something?

  • April 2, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Harry, your website designer is an overpaid dickwad.

    by BurnHollywood

    ...Unless you're paying him in dog turds, that is, in which case, you're definitely getting your money's worth. I made a 5 paragraph post yesterday going into detail why this movie isn't (as neonfrisbee has it) an "unmitigated failure", and today it's fucking gone. Apparently, the site's "fake refresh" feature fucked me over again (where it appears your post has instantly been added, but then disappears when you do a "true" refresh). Fire this fucking asshole and hire somebody who knows what an "edit" button is.

  • April 2, 2011, 11:04 p.m. CST

    This movie pushed it with me

    by KevinMuller

    It is a film if I didn't have a "no walk out" policy...that I would of walked out on...a failure on every level.

  • April 3, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Like a ps3 cutcene without any story you care about

    by UltraTron

    and added film grain to try and make it look less like a videogame. Play crysis 2 today and have some actual fun instead

  • April 3, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Best W.I.P. movie ever

    by maxsterling

    My favorite type of movie is the low budget exploitation film--you know, the kind of movies that inspired Quentin Tarentino. Netflix is a wonderful thing as it lets me watch low budget exploitation films from the USA and all around the world, both recently made and decades old. Whenever I watch any movie, I always evaluate it as a low budget exploitation film, even if it's a mainstream blockbuster. I don't watch too many mainstream Hollywood films--their endings tend to be too happy and their production styles seem too slickly homogenized. I have seen at least 3 dozen Women-In-Prison movies and Suckerpunch is my favorite one.

  • I know that I unabashedly love Snyder's movies. The only thing wrong with Dawn of the Dead was its title. Despite sharing a similar premise with George Romero's original movie, it deserves to stand on its own as a lean, mean zombie horror flick — with strong, intelligent female characters to boot (Sarah Polly and the gun-wielding grandma spring to mind). 300 and Watchmen got a lot more right than they got wrong (Frank Miller's graphic novel does not depict a single white character yet the movie was primarily cast with white actors, and Malin Ackerman was terribly miscast as the getting-a-little-long-in-the-tooth Silk Spectre) That said, I find that I cannot defend Sucker Punch. I went to see it for the awesome action promised by the trailers, and on a visual level, it delivered, big time: the fierce battle with the Samurai giants, the commando squad and bunny-mech versus the steampunk nazi zombies, the business with the B52 vs. the dragon, all those scenes. Taken on their own merits, they were each breathtaking and spectacular, and I have no doubt that Zac Snyder has the technical proficiency to paint any picture he wants on screen. I just thought it was really fucked up that within the context of the movie, this is what we watched while Baby Doll was dancing for her captors. I'll even go so far as to say that perhaps Snyder didn't think too hard on the framework for the green-screen scenes. Because I honestly feel as if they belonged in a whole other movie, one that wouldn't be taking this bashing if the story — any story, one slightly more conventional and (gasp!) mainstream — had been written within the context of the more fantastical reality. It might not have been The Godfather, but then it wouldn't be this total wank fest pretending not to be a wank fest, either. Bottom line: Zac Snyder can film anything. He just needs to stop writing his own shit.

  • ...Then why are you the one talking about sucking "fecal matter"? (Anyone else ever notice how closeted homosexuals have a habit of outing themselves with their alleged contempt for gay activities they know *just a little* too much about?) LMAO. Good luck explaining your boyfriend to your parents when you just can't keep your secret anymore...your mom and dad are cousins, and your dad's mistress is a sheep, so I'm sure they'll be open-minded about it...

  • April 3, 2011, 11:51 p.m. CST

    I think Suckerpunch solidified two things...

    by bishopfan85

    1) That Zack Snyder is more than capable of bringing a Superman to screen that can be the living breathing embodiment of the powerful Superhero that you see in cartoon and comics and 2) He is a visionary director but like many others (George Lucas I'm talking to you!) should have a team of equally talented people handing the writing and various other aspects of his films.

  • April 4, 2011, 4:01 a.m. CST

    Superman...

    by tailhook

    Probably what is most up Snyder's alley with Superman is he's fairly adept period pieces and bringing a look and feel of another time to his films. Superman in the modern world just won't work. Probably the dumbest mistake they ever made was when they addressed the nuke issue with Superman IV. To give an example, Superman fighting Al'Quada would be lunacy or say.. making Superman a Deadbeat Dad(HI BRYAN SINGER). The world of Superman needs to be fairly similar to our own while harking back to days of yore with the action grounded in villains that belong in that world and provide a reason for Superman to do his thing while courting Lois Lane. Nail that... the look and feel, and the rest is negotiable. Don't nail it, or try to inflict him with modern problems and its crash and burn.

  • April 4, 2011, 6:46 a.m. CST

    im fearful for superman now

    by Obscura

    i used to think Snyder was ok... not great, but ok. Dawn of the dead and 300 were alright. Watchmen was a bad idea from minute one, but he didnt totally ruin it. BUT, suckerpunch is easily the worst film i've seen in a long time. Visually, he was skill... but i cant think of a worse story teller making films right now. We all have to hope really hard that Nolan can keep Snyder on a short leash and make sure the script works.... he needs to be treated like the idiot kid in the school thats only skill is coloring in..

  • April 5, 2011, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Fatso Harry delivers another disgrace of a review

    by Nabster

    This movie is an insipid evil piece of shit. I read a statistic that over 70% of the people whom have seen SuckerPunch, did not even stay till the end. Apparently some kid in Bulgaria, after watching this film, went home and killled his entire family, in some bizzare protest to this evil cowardly film.

  • April 5, 2011, 2 p.m. CST

    "I'm gonna chock this up as another "W" for me."

    by BurnHollywood

    The same way you used to scratch a mark in your bedpost every time a guy achieved balls-deep penetration in your ass, until the bed collapsed one day and you were nearly smothered to death under a 300 lb bear in leather ass pants? And the fact that you're a mouthy 13 year old gay tween who wants my beefsteak up against your tonsils doesn't make me a pedophile...it just means it's time to save up your meager male prostitute earnings so you can finally achieve she-malehood by the time your old enough to drive to your first Nicky Minaj concert. It's your lifelong career goal to be a throwaway semen receptacle, after all...might as well get it right.

  • April 5, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    I had a wonderful thought...

    by BooBoosDaddy

    So in my imagination, Warner's execs say, "Zach, we saw the numbers Sucker Punch generated. We saw the movie. We can't take that risk with Superman. You're off the project." Then..."Mr.Cameron, what will it cost for you to drop whatever project you are working on right now, and write and direct Superman for us--a Superman movie with no Lex Luthor, with kick ass action scenes, and a shit load of heart, that makes people believe in the first superhero again? And it needs to be out by the end of 2012. 1 billion dollars, you say? Done. The money has been wired to your account. Start work tomorrow."

  • April 5, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    just saw sucker punch

    by NoMotivatioN

    and , well? what can I say, I love masterbation. If thats what the nerds here are calling it then jerk it all the way my friends ;)

  • I've got Sucker Punch. But seriously...at least SEE a movie before you rag on it. And this movie should've been rated R. Not for TnA but for content. 13 yr old brains can't handle stuff like this.

  • April 6, 2011, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Only two things, really, Love and .45

    by dead-battery

    After some hestitation based on all the mixed reviews, I just saw SUCKER PUNCH yesterday. For sure, it is far from perfect and it is not a movie for everyone, but I found it strangely moving. Yeah, I get that it is easy to dismiss Zack Snyder's SUCKER PUNCH as voyeuristic live action anime/ CGI video game for guys to get their kicks from, an exercise in geekery from its own sake, or a misguided girrllll power film. There is more than a adult dose of manichean misandry in the flick which did bug. Overall, there is something else going on with SUCKER PUNCH than the obvious complaints would indicate that make it worth watching. Admittedly, Snyder unloads a blunderbuss of SCOTT PILRGRIM geek subculture references in SUCKER PUNCH: the SAILOR MOON garbed Baby Doll packing her 1911 and Katana, mingun-weilding phallic samurai, steam punk WWI German soldiers, giant zeppelins!, a HEAVY METAL B-52 engaging in a firefight with a Dragon over some forgotten castle of Middle Earth, Knights of the Old Republic looking robots, and, for good measure, defusing a bomb on a train as it rolls into TRON City. He also delivers a “puzzle” type film, like INCEPTION, to leave us scratching our head somewhat at the end. Like INCEPTION, it is part heist move. It’s also small platoon behind enemy lines war movie as well- “SAVING PRIVATE BABY GIRL”. And for good measure, there MOULIN ROUGE gangster flick aspect to SUCKER PUNCH. And that, as they say, as not even the half of it. A lot of it really is creative, kinetic, cool, full of geeky goodness, and lands on target, because, you know, Synder using a blunderbuss, as opposed to a M-14 DMR. To be sure, there is a “Jesus, this poorly done X-Box game” quality to SUCKER PUNCH that can be distracting. However, after the first "fantasy", when Baby Doll fights the gigantic samuri, it becomes far less noticable, and compared to say, SKY CAPTAIN, it might as well be a 320dpi of an alterntive reality, albeit one with, you know, giant mini-gun wielding samuri. Also, as another talk backer pointed out, Synder does a poor job setting up the “rules” of the world that makes it much harder to connect everything a coherent whole; there is a hallucinogenic quality to the narrative that could drive you batty if you are not prepared for it, i.e., have not brought a half pint of Popov with you. The thing to keep in mind, though, all that the things makes the movie, in as Harry stated "glorious" and a bloated visual and narrative mess, serve as a distraction. You’ve got keep your eye on the ball. In the opening of the movie, Snyder spells out that Baby Girl's step-father was abusing her, and was going to abuse (or did) abuse her sister. The abuse of the girls in the asylum was played out in the brothel setting. As noted up thread, if SUCKER PUNCH actually showed what was really going on, without the layer of fantasy, it would be pretty god damn horrific. As a movie telling the story of an abused young girl's attempt to escape such a hell, Sucker Punch is actually a fairly serious movie, and a moving story. I mean, how many of escape into fantasy and make believe in facing far less serious troubles in our own lives. Also, the didactic nature of the film is not just limited to just to victims of abuse. There are all sorts of prisons. It is equally true that it is not all about us. We are not always the hero of the story – despite whatever the legions of narcissists and borderline sociopaths always barking and preening amoung us may believe. Sometimes we are a character in a bigger story; Sometimes we are the guardian. And, without a doubt, we have all the weapons we need -- even if it’s not a shiny 1911 and bad ass katana. We just need the strength and encouragement to pick them us. Its rapped up in a pretty fantastic visual package, but that’s what I took away from SUCKER PUNCH at least. Not such a bad message. And, really, not that bad a movie.

  • "...I am a professional Troll (aka asshole), and you're just not worth my time. I will be posting this reply in other threads so everyone can know of your inadequacies." Not worth your time, but on the other hand, will be taking up this supposedly "worthwhile" time posting this crap in other threads. Hunh. A troll who doesn't understand contradictions trolls themselves...as do long-winded, self-loathing homosexuals. And the only thing you're close to being a professional at is ball-gargling for nickels and dimes, as mentioned previously. See how effortless that was? Quick and to the point. Take notes and you might learn something, little lady.

  • April 8, 2011, 5:37 a.m. CST

    My complete explanation of Sucker Punch

    by kK stoned

    I wrote a really long article about my interpretation and explanation of SUCKER PUNCH; it's in the link below: http://www.barkingherald.com/index.php/2011/04/07/my-explanation-and-analysis-of-sucker-punch/ Here's a snippet: "Zack Snyder’s Sucker Punch is a fairy tale with multiple realities. In the movie Snyder does not give an explanation for why Baby Doll’s dances throws her at the feet of steam-powered soldiers, dragons, and robots that are all trying to kill her. Or, why the hell there’s even a brothel reality (that most of the film takes place in) at all. One cannot view the film straight on and ask questions like “Wait! Why is she all of a sudden a burlesque prostitute?” To that, I answer “the same way Fred Madison suddenly turns into Pete Dayton in Lost Highway.” We shouldn’t have the same expectation watching Sucker Punch that we have with, say, Alice In Wonderland; where we anticipate Alice falling through the hole to get to Wonderland—Snyder doesn’t exactly use that sort of narrative trope."

  • April 13, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST

    This was an amazing work of visual story-telling...

    by pieman0226

    It blew me away at the end of the film. I didn't anticipate how "epic" of a feel this seemingly hum-drum theme was going to produce. It had the visuals of an Anime-film brought to life with perfection. The story had multiple layers that require a number of viewings before all pieces can be brought together. The femme fatal aspect was fun to watch, encouraging, and as the audience I felt for each of the girls. It was sad watching them get capped off one at a time. This film was rich in color, in visuals, in sub-text...I can't believe that Harry is knocking it. I thought it was cinematic genius and I think so much more of Snyder now, because of this work. For example, the first 5 minutes had no dialogue, and with just visuals we're given the main characters entire B.G. and motivation, and then all of a sudden we're brought to these other worlds that we don't fully understand. I went into this movie only hearing word of mouth that it was fun, but I was blown away. It was like Moulin Rouge (sp?), crossed with a realistic Spirited Away, in the setting of a noir'ish One Flew Over the Coocoo's Nest. Absolutely fantastic film, a must get on blu!