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So What Day Will The Extended Edition LOTR Blu-Rays Arrive?
Nordling here.
June 28th, 2011, according to the LOTR Trilogy Official Facebook page. Save up. I can't wait. The box is going for $83.99 on Amazon at the moment.
Hey, you clicked, didn't you? Neener.
Nordling, out.
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We can all agree that it must
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To watch these for the first time. Are they good?
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Or Phillipa Boyens? Or anyone else that happens to be wandering by? The LOTR movies are completely schizophrenic, full of great scenes and moments and awful ones. I guess the result of shooting three movies at once, not a good idea at the best of times.
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March 22, 2011, 7:54 p.m. CST
that would make up for Tesco swindling me and other drunks at the toilet vending machines
by Smack_Teddy
Seriously - at the risk of sounding like an old man - who thinks they're obviously buying a cockring from supermarket toilet vending machines? F---ing sort it out Tesco.
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So, the extra feature that I'm still waiting for is the trilogy blooper reel that was apparently shown at the filming wrap party. Anyone hear if it has been included, or if any of the extras are new?
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I've watched the extended versions of all three movies a ton of times, and I didn't recognize that line of dialog, or even who said it. Are these supposed to have scenes not even in the DVD extended editions?
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March 22, 2011, 8:07 p.m. CST
Incredibles in April, Aliens in May and this in June. I need money.
by Mr Nicholas
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I hate post conversion 3D... it makes the actors look like cardboard cutouts, and Tron Legacy was no exception.
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They've got 3 very long movies worth of final soundtrack to choose from, and they didn't think any of it was worth using in the trailer?
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more to add to the collection before I actually buy a decent blu ray player.
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but I doubt it's on there
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That line is "This, is my power!". It is in the dvd extended editions and it is indeed said by the Witch-king Ring-wraith. I realise it is internet protocol to spout off without checking, so fair enough.
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What's taters, precious?
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Ppppbbbbbbt! (little dribble of spit)
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Not seeing anything that's not in the DvD extended editions. I know this is blue ray and all that jazz but, who cares?
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After The spectacular FOTR, each one got more self indulgent. And then we got King Kong. I hope PJ will reign himself in for the Hobbit.
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March 22, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST
Hopefully they fix the CGI that ruined the first blu ray releases...
by darthwaz1
The CGI on those looks fake and pasted on, really bad how it shows in 1080, hopefully they integrate it better for the extended (true) versions..
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The line is indeed, "This is my hour." It's direct from the book, I believe.
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March 22, 2011, 9:21 p.m. CST
I read that only Fellowship is remastered from a 2K for this set.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Towers and King's HD must date back to the HD master when they were released on DVD. Methinks Peter is not involved with this release. I'm still waiting for his EXTRA GORY VIOLENT VERSION that he talked about back in the day, he said it would be a hard R for the fans. Instead, we got the extended versions, which are nice, but they're missing the gore and violence that Peter promised.
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March 22, 2011, 9:22 p.m. CST
Because, Dreammaster, The Two towers trailer proved one thing:
by starmin76
That Lux Aterna + LotR = EPIC ****ING WIN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wek5UClasY8
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I completely agree that it would have been much better to use Howard Shore's music throughout the trailer ... but as to why the piece heard during the latter half was used, the answer is that it's been strongly associated with the franchise since being used in the trailer for "The Two Towers." The title of the piece is "Requiem for a Tower," and it's a reworking of "Lux Æterna" from Clint Mansell's score to "Requiem for a Dream."
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Too long. "My precious."
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March 22, 2011, 9:27 p.m. CST
I'm getting this during Amazon's Black Friday Week, it'll probably be $40 or less.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Hopefully they release these without the bonus DVDs, 'cause I already got those. Yeah, the more I think about it, I'm not dropping more than $40 for this. If the Bonus DVDs had been 1080p blu-ray, then, Hell yeah, I'd pay more.
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In 2002 the used the same music in The Two Towers Theatrical trailer. It was well received and that is probably the reason it is being used again.
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Not "This is my hour."
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March 22, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST
"In 2002 the used the same music in The Two Towers Theatrical trailer."
by Dreamwriter
Yes, but in 2002 they didn't have completed music for the movie. Now they do and thus have no excuse for the false advertising.
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though I didn't get the theatrical blu-ray. This would be so much more worth it though if they use the youtube voice over version of Frodo waking up to his friends all coming in the room. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LSP7zFIWX0
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March 22, 2011, 10:08 p.m. CST
YAWN! Most overrated films of our generation. Needs more Robin.
by Mr Headache
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From digitalbits.com: "A lot of people have asked about the new 2K remaster of Fellowship. Specifically, a few people have wondered if WHV was cheaping out by not remastering at at least 4K. We've confirmed that 2K was the resolution of the final post-production/editorial master for the film. So unless and until someone goes in and rescans all the film elements at higher resolution, then rebuilds the edit and re-renders all the visual effects at the higher resolution, 2K is the highest resolution element available to master a Blu-ray from. And that's what WHV has apparently gone back to. Today, this kind of film mastering work is mostly done at 4K, but back in 2000-2001, 2K was standard." Hope that helps.
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"It was just a regular DVD upconverted. it looked pretty damn nice. " If it was a DVD, then it wasn't a BD. Do you actually know what Blu-ray means? Duuuh!
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March 22, 2011, 10:17 p.m. CST
Films this great seperate the men from the popcorn-boys, I can't wait!!!
by CeejayNightwing
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March 22, 2011, 10:25 p.m. CST
2K versus 4k: lazy argument, they have done it for FX vintage movies.
by Mr Headache
These just don't warrant the HD upgrade. Very underwhelmed by previous release. Whats the point? Just put your cash in an envelope and post it to John Smith.
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March 22, 2011, 10:30 p.m. CST
2001: was 4-6k transfer, WHV are just being lazy. These look like CRAP!
by Mr Headache
Or good DVDS which they were.
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Wasn't Aliens on Blu-ray upconverted from 2k to 4k? I also know a little post work was done on some shots too. Cropping, Digital Panning. I never saw a good article explaining the mastering on the Aliens Blu-ray and would like to see it. Let me know if you know anything about it.
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but will these be basic blueray conversions? Or will there be a bit more re-working going on?
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Two Towers essentially just ripped off the battle from Army of Darkness(I'm somewhat joking). The third one was just not enjoyable for me. The first one in my eyes is amazing and perfect.
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Avatar, of course, is a more recent example.
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I'll get it when they have The Hobbit/LotR extended boxset comes out in few years. It'll be a good way to kill a 3 week vacation.
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My sword's poking up and under my waist band at the thought of seeing every minute this amazing epic in high def. ESPECIALLY the third one - and yeah, that includes every ending. And I disagree about LOTR being an example of the bandwagon effect...unless by that you mean people jumping on the "Hey you're right, this trilogy was a bunch of shit that nobody ever REALLY liked and were not even very well reviewed" bandwagon of revisionist bullshit that completely ignores their ongoing success and popularity.
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Is Frodo's expression in that screen-shot on account of busting a load off in Sam's mouth? I wonder if they've incorporated that scene into the film or it's part of the bonus features.
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You know, the one where people got overly excited about a good movie that spilled over to the decent second film that eventually went haywire with the horrible last effort.
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I love that you can only watch that youtube trailer for the Extended Blu-Ray Editions in 360p. Who are the ad wizards who put this together? It stinks of a cash-grab.
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The bandwagon has to do with the people that watched the films. It really doesn't matter if they made all three films at the same time, or if they made them in the future and sent them back in a DeLorean for release.
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I really don't need duplicates of those, the EE movies would suffice to me.
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this thing comes with 15 discs....so you're obviously going to have to do the same disc swapping you did with the DVD EE's. Fucking pisses me off, especially when you consider how slow bluray movies load. And dont tell me they cant fit it on a standard Bluray. They could. Hell, 3D movies need twice as many frames as standard movies, which essentially means the movies are twice as long. Yet they fit. The Boogie Nights DVD had a 3 1/2 hour movie, 3 audio tracks, and lots of other shit on it...and it fit.
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Really like the extra little moments of Boromir sprinkled into the Extended Editions of TT and ROTK. I think they really add to Faramir / Denethors characters and relationship. Although Boromir is kind of a flawed character I find him rather more interesting than Aragorn, and Sean Bean really nailed the character imbuing him with emotions and doubts that perhaps weren't on the written page.
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The extended versions just put in so much crap that I didn't care about, bogging down the pacing.
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March 23, 2011, 7:52 a.m. CST
Cool, Now I Know Exactly What I Won't Be Buying On June 28th
by NeonFrisbee
LOTR was a well done series, and I liked it; liked it so much, I foolishly bought the extended editions, watched them once and never again. Never even bothered watching any of the behind-the-scenes stuff. That was an incredibly stupid waste of money. I've realized, over the years, that buying these movies is almost completely pointless. I have a TON of dvds I watched once and that's it. From here on out, I'm only buying stuff that I LOVE, instead of stuff I just liked.
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Not mastered at 4K and no toy. Bummer.
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Still can't wait to see them on bluray. Love this trilogy and the extended versions are the only way I can watch them.
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What a load of rubbish, it doesnt need to be on two discs, its blu-ray not dvd. The whole idea of blu-ray was to get more info on the disc (better picture quality, sound) and longer films. just wait in 12 months time, surprise everybody now we have the extended movies on blu ray but magically have been able to fit them on one disc. This Sucks !!
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Two discs is rubbish per film on blu ray, but the extended editions are the only ones I've watched with any kind of regularlity since seeing both versions for the first time - so the blu rays are a no-brainer. The shorter versions (with the exception of the first film) now feel truncated and insufficent. The extendeds for me are far richer. A little nervous about how some of the effects will translate under the closer scrutiny of high def though. Oh, and the docs on the extended editions are GREAT and worth a looksee: entertaining, enlightening and at times, very funny (Viggo kissing Billy Boyd to get a reaction out of Sean Astin during the wedding scene comes to mind), unlike the fluffy b.s. found on the theatrical releases.
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Who cares when they come out on blu-ray? Those movies are the lowest of cinematic fecal matter.
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enjoy 12 hours of tedium in HD. Lovely.
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Totally agree with you. My collection has hundreds of only watched once BD and DVD. The only films I buy now are ones that I missed at the cinema or saw and loved. The ones I missed are rarely bought new. I wait three months and get them half price. I think I've only bought 2 films in the last six months.
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Boromir was indeed a more fully-fleshed out character in the films. He was the only character I felt PJ did any justice to, yet the majority of that credit goes to Sean Bean. PJ shat all over Faramir, a character I loved in the novels, and who was a perfect counterpoint to Boromir. The cinematic version was a pouty asshole despite his change of state by the ridiculous Osgiliath release of Frodo and Sam. And Aragorn was a much stronger character in the novel. He knew who he was, what he would become, and what he had to do to get there. Jackson once again fucked that character up by having him be mopey, insipid and indecisive about his role as the would-be King. Fucking terrible change that was NOT needed.
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I refuse to SQUANDER even a single penny more on "Peter Jackson's LoTR". When some other filmmaker produces a version that bears more than a passing resemblance to the source material...well, we'll see when that happens. And yes, this includes the films underway now. I was jazzed that GDT was doing it, but now that the project has changed hands there will be a huge undertaking to "fix" a lotta stuff that doesn't need fixing. No. Interest. Whatsoever.
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So funny how if an actor gets famous ( or new to you ) when you go back and watch an old movie and he or she is in it it freaks me out. Now I'm going to have to pull out all my LOTR and fire it up to watch.
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I actually saw the two with their roles entirely reversed from the books. I think Jackson wanted a character that we could admire through all 3 films... and it worked. Sean Bean was perfectly cast... FOR FARAMIR. (ha! ) Yet, I honestly prefer him as boromir. It makes him a multi dimensional character... Faramir in the books was just a superman type character... like Gandalf... he could do no wrong and he wasn't even tempted by the ring. I know Jackson mucked with the books a little tiny bit too much ( like having Frodo hang out with Faramir for one thing... to me that's a greater sin.. I mean Frodo looks face to face with a wraith who SEES the RING. That's total BS. To me that's the greatest sin of the films )
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I really liked that he wasn't tempted by the Ring. That was a nice bit of irony in that Boromir was the golden boy and yet fell to the temptation. He was also a nice haven for Frodo at the time when he could trust no one. I hate that Jackson messed with that. That Wraith scene was indeed the greatest WTF moment in the entire trilogy. How the fuck does he get away with showing the Ring to the Wraith, and that the Wraith's mount is scared off by a FUCKING ARROW. Lamest of lame thinking there fatstuff. Aragorn was the biggest disappointment though. Had I never read the books I would have been fine with the character, but as it stood, no way. There were moments of awesome, but on the whole, the entire "BUUUUT I DON'T WANT TO BE KIIIIIING" bullshit was wretched.
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I only bought the extended versions on DVD so I will just be double dipping. I did not buy the regular versions or the other blu versions. This movie was made for blu-ray. I musssts have itsss. It'sss my preciousssssss. Oh yeah. Fuck all you haters.
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nightarrows, good points but I do understand why PJ made Aragorn a little more worn down by doubt about taking up the mantle of king. Tolkien wrote in a fairly Old Testament style at times, and that kind of black & white approach doesn't necessarily work with films. I hate to drop buzzwords like 'character arc' but Aragorn doesn't have much of one in the book. I mean although he goes through a lot of events, there's no personal development. So I don't mind that PJ made him a reluctant king-in-waiting. It makes enough sense to me that if you'd spent so many decades as a 'wilderness man' you'd be hesitant to give up your freedom and step into a role of massive responsibility. You've also got to credit Viggo for bringing so much conviction to the role. The one 'Aragorn' moment I miss actually is when he addresses the 'fighting Uruk-Hai' from the walls of Helms Deep. That's a brilliant scene in the book, which let's Aragorn 'show his quality' in fine style.
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It is nice to have that little break in there for such long films, kinda like those intermissions that films had back in the 50's and 60's. I wish more of the so called "epic" films released these days would do this in the theater. That way you can go to the bathroom and refill your popcorn and soda without missing anything.
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All you're getting is the extended cuts. No one needs the DVD extras. weve all got those already. so this is a pretty lousy package, honestly....2 discs per movie, and 9 DVD's.
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Doesn't interest me, but if you want a set of 7 5" X 7" character portraits, the WBshop's offering them as an exclusive with a pre-order there for a buck more than on Amazon. http://www.wbshop.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-WB-Site/default/Page-Show?cid=The-Lord-of-the-Rings-Extended-Edition-Blu-ray-Gift-Set
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There was indeed more of an arc to Aragorn in the film, though I think it could have been handled as it was in the book without being a bore. In the novel, when they paddle past the Argonath and Frodo (and everyone else IIRC) notices a change in Aragorn, from posture to presence, that was awesome and I feel the film missed out on something special with Aragorn. By the time he felt like getting off the couch and doing what he should, there was 30 minutes left in ROTK. It seemed like such a waste. Plus, the whole handing over of Anduril was, hmmmm, a little too 'Rocky-esq' for the type of content we were dealing with. Viggo did an outstanding job (especially his tender side, very well handled), though yet again, I think he was missing presence and, man, that voice, so light and reedy! When he addressed the men at the Black Gates, I felt he was going to pull out a pan flute and start dancing. Lower the testicles Viggo! I had always pictured Aragorn as taller (for certain) and with a baratone voice that was soft when needed, and commanding when called. All this is nitpicking of course. The films are what they are and I do love them for the most part. I also enjoy discussing film here in a real voice versus the "GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER while eating a flaming bag of dicks, twat bag" tone. And how the hell do you make a line break here?
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If Newline want to continue milking this cash cow, then one way to go would be to release re-cut versions of these movies that are designed for people who prefer quality over quantity. The idea of EXTENDING already bloated movies is absurd. A bad joke. The rabid My-LOTR-Right-Or-Wrong crowd have had their way for too long. Surely it's now the turn of those who can see the potential in Peter Jackson's films (buried beneath a pile of mediocrity). Time for some one to turn the LOTR trilogy into great movies by CUTTING stuff out. LOTS of stuff. Some of my suggested alterations are as follows. Cut out Rubber-Legolas and the elephant jump. Cut out Rubber-Legolas and the horse jump. Cut out Rubber-Legolas and the troll jump. In fact, cut out Legolas entirely. He's bland and drags the films down. Also, the films will benefit greatly if they cut: Weepy Sam Teary Sam Speech-making Sam Weepy, teary, speech-making Sam. Homo-erotic Sam (no offence to homosexuals - it's just not what Tolkien intended and it kind of jars with the story - sorry!) Cut: All scenes where orcs act like mindless drones. Less is more = they start to look like a genuine threat = more tension and jepordy = better movies! Battle scenes: cut as many wide shots of CGI soldiers as possible. They just look like a load of marching ants. In a video game about ants. With bad graphics. Less is DEFINITELY more. Cut out Gimli, totally. I hate to lose him but he's portrayed in the movies as a blundering bufffoon. And for the exact same reason: Cut out Marry and Pipppin. There, I've said it. I understand wanting to turn them into comic relief but..........they're just not funny. And they don't work in serious scenes either because they just aren't very good actors. And they've been given awful lines. Who wrote this? It's almost like it was written by people with little or no prior writing experience.... Oh. "Emotional slow-mo" scenes. Cut them. The audience will now have the space to experience the emotion rather than having it shoved down their throats. The movies will be shorter too (remember the golden rule here:shorter = better). Any scene where two characters resolve the dialogue by having a fist-fight. Who wrote this? Oh. Gollum sitting on an invisible toilet at Mount Doom, having a very difficult bowel movement. The climax of the story! What were they thinking?!
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If Newline want to continue milking this cash cow, then one way to go would be to release re-cut versions of these movies that are designed for people who prefer quality over quantity. The idea of EXTENDING already bloated movies is absurd. A bad joke. The rabid My-LOTR-Right-Or-Wrong crowd have had their way for too long. Surely it's now the turn of those who can see the potential in Peter Jackson's films (buried beneath a pile of mediocrity). Time for some one to turn the LOTR trilogy into great movies by CUTTING stuff out. LOTS of stuff. Some of my suggested alterations are as follows. Cut out Rubber-Legolas and the elephant jump. Cut out Rubber-Legolas and the horse jump. Cut out Rubber-Legolas and the troll jump. In fact, cut out Legolas entirely. He's bland and drags the films down. Also, the films will benefit greatly if they cut: Weepy Sam Teary Sam Speech-making Sam Weepy, teary, speech-making Sam. Homo-erotic Sam (no offence to homosexuals - it's just not what Tolkien intended and it kind of jars with the story - sorry!) Cut: All scenes where orcs act like mindless drones. Less is more = they start to look like a genuine threat = more tension and jepordy = better movies! Battle scenes: cut as many wide shots of CGI soldiers as possible. They just look like a load of marching ants. In a video game about ants. With bad graphics. Less is DEFINITELY more. Cut out Gimli, totally. I hate to lose him but he's portrayed in the movies as a blundering bufffoon. And for the exact same reason: Cut out Marry and Pipppin. There, I've said it. I understand wanting to turn them into comic relief but..........they're just not funny. And they don't work in serious scenes either because they just aren't very good actors. And they've been given awful lines. Who wrote this? It's almost like it was written by people with little or no prior writing experience.... Oh. "Emotional slow-mo" scenes. Cut them. The audience will now have the space to experience the emotion rather than having it shoved down their throats. The movies will be shorter too (remember the golden rule here:shorter = better). Any scene where two characters resolve the dialogue by having a fist-fight. Who wrote this? Oh. Gollum sitting on an invisible toilet at Mount Doom, having a very difficult bowel movement. The climax of the story! What were they thinking?! Who wrote this? Oh. Frodo dangling over the edge at Mount Doom. "Reeeeeeeeeeaaaach!" For the love of Jesus, cut this. The "people of Rohan". Stop laughing. Don't worry, they're cut The "people of Minas Tirith". Control yourself - they're gone! That's just off the top of my head. The goal is to get these movies down to about two hours each. And for those who say you can't cut any more stuff out: believe me, you can ALWAYS cut more stuff out. And the LOTR movies can afford to lose PLENTY. What's that? The reduced cuts would be unfaithful to the book and not make a lot of sense? Don't blame me. I didn't create the problem; I'm just trying to fix it.
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Once upon a time on AICN everyone whispered of how great these films were, and you daren't utter a bad word for fear of being branded a heretic. These days, no-one seems to care. As good as they are (Two Towers is my favourite), its amazing how things turn around. I wonder what ever happened to MorGoth? Never have I laughed myself so close to vomiting!!
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nightarrows, yes I remember that Aragorn moment at the Argonath. In the film he did acknowledge and comment on them but it wasn't the majestic moment that it was in the book. To make paragraph breaks you used to have to enter < p > (without the spaces) but nowadays you just have to put in a line with the enter button. Simple. hooded justice, you should check out fanedit.info, there are downloadable re-edits of many movies there including LOTR (also Adywan's definitive version of STAR WARS which is a must see for any geek!).
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That should have said you used to have to enter P!
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March 23, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST
If each film is split across 2 f***ing disks I'm not buying them
by Jeff Myers
There's no need for this. There's tons of space on Blurays - the reason we're all buying them. The Fellowship (for me) is ruined in its extended form by being split across 2 disks. The emotional build of The Council of Eldron scene is lost by the intermission.
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they're making me all depressed. I won't be able to watch these films now without all the negative comments at the back of my mind. I might just listen to the BBC Radio version instead...although Merry and Pippin are rather annoying in that...damn. At least Gimli wasn't a buffoon and Legolas was played by an actual actor. Plus - much more Ian Holm!
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March 23, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST
Hells yeah, this is the day I've waited for ever since Blu Ray was invented
by zillabeast
June 28th that is. Home Butt-Numb-A-Thon.
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Blurp Blurp
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By the way, I don't hate teh LOTR films - they've got a lot of good bits. But the project was just way too big to keep the quality consistent. That's why they really needed to cut it down. Peter Jackson's original plan to make two 2-hour movies was definitely more achievable. Sure, lots of stuff would have been left out/compressed - but the quality of the movies would have been much higher. And I'd argue that two great movies is far better than three good-to-mediocre ones.
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I remember a day when even the merest mention of liking PJ's efforts on a LotR Talk Back was met with trolling and cries of "sycophant!" It didn't matter what your opinion was because, of course, you were "an idiot" for praising Jackson. See how that sword cuts both ways? docpazzu was right on the other TB: LotR revisionism. Plain and simple. Jackson hating: there's your bandwagon.
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But I have said all along - and will continue to say - that his was a *very* poor adaptation of the original source material. As bad as the Rankin-Bass cartoon of RotK is, it's actually more faithful to the original story, and that's a real shame. And I've been on this site for more than 12 years now, and I don't recall anyone being trashed for saying they LIKE these films. In fact it's the exact opposite - those of us who have said we are disappointed with the films are the ones getting trashed. So if ya wanna brand me a hater for having a negative opinion AFTER I've seen the films (not BEFORE), so be it. But I make no apologies to the fact that I love the books, and I was hoping to see *Tolkien's* story on the screen. I didn't. Thus my referal to the films as "Peter Jackson's LotR". Cause they ain't Tolkien.
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Limited?? it is the same extended versions we all know and love or something else? Is there anything different between it and the current 3 box extended version, other than Bluray?
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March 25, 2011, 8:03 a.m. CST
Oh we won't give in, let's go living in the past...
by Gorthaur_the_Cruel
...For velvet-sloane and halfbreedqueen. Compliments of Jethro Tull. <P>
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Yes, thank goodness for the internets, Blu-ray AND Peter Jackson. Oh gorthaur, you really ARE cruel. But, y'know, in a good way!
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Well met, sir and your flattery is noted. Would you like me to show you just how good I am at cruelty? Have a seat while I search for my pliers.
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