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Zack Snyder Talks SUPERMAN (MAN OF STEEL!?)


Merrick here...


THIS piece at the L.A. Times catches-up with Zack Snyder and discusses the status of his now-ramping-up SUPERMAN movie.  

The article pointedly indicates the title we've been hearing for a while now - MAN OF STEEL -  will probably hold, but is quick to point out that final nomenclature has yet to be determined.  

Other snippets of interest from Snyder...

”Respect the canon but don’t be a slave to the movies.”


“Literally, the one thing that everyone can start to think about is that we’re making a movie that finally goes with the approach that there’s been no other Superman movies,” Snyder said.


“Our Superman, he’s got things to figure out, but he’s a physical cat.


Regarding the Supes costume Henry  Cavill will wear, Snyder reveals that the studio will be preemptive in its reveal.  A smart move  - guess they learned something from Sony's AMAZING SPIDER-MAN spy photo debacle. 

"We’re going to have to show it before we shoot, probably a while before that because [otherwise] someone will be on the set and get a picture of it.” 


I'm really interested in seeing where this picture heads, but I'm not at all certain Superman should be a cat in the movie.  I'm just not feelin' that at all. 


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  • March 17, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST


    by darthderp

  • March 17, 2011, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Heh...Faster than the average talkbacker...

    by darthderp

    ...also known as right place, right time....carry on.

  • March 17, 2011, 10:48 a.m. CST


    by darthderp

    Bullshit you say!!!

  • March 17, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Wish them luck

    by Lemure_v2

    Costume needs a drastic change - the primary colours/pants over tights look is silly nowadays. Not saying it should be all black either though. As for a new score: good luck, you'll need it.

  • March 17, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST



    should play the physical cat

  • March 17, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST

    I just hope they don't make it too dark.

    by Ghostpirate

    That didn't work for Superman Returns. What makes Superman work is the opposite of what works for the Batman movies.

  • March 17, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST


    by Justin Atkinson

    Who cares?

  • March 17, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST

    movienut401 - eat shit and die

    by Lamerz

    FIRST posters eat fat, hairy, sweaty ass.

  • March 17, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST

    "...he's a physical cat."

    by BoggyCreekBeast

    Uh, WTF!? Dig what Zack says and dig it DEEP!

  • March 17, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Go easy on the darkness, and big on the action

    by Cletus Van Damme

    ...and PLEASE don't go crazy with the uniform.

  • Nice one, Merrick. Reminds me of something Arthur Dent would say.

  • March 17, 2011, 10:52 a.m. CST

    The costume is fine

    by Jake Pantlin

    He is an alien. It's an alien outfit. Nuff siad.

  • March 17, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    cletus - the uniform?

    by Lamerz

    What, is he working night shifts at McDonalds?

  • March 17, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST


    by Jake Pantlin

    The man isn't dead.

  • March 17, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I am sure he was refuring to Cat

    by eric haislar

    as in Person. Like a cool cat. Not superman is cat like physically.

  • March 17, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Do not change the costume at all

    by eric haislar

    Who cares if it is silly by modern standards. It what superman should wear.

  • If Superman had just raped Lex once in prison, it would have probably set him straight.

  • March 17, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST

    I lolled at the cat joke

    by rev_skarekroe

    Good one.

  • March 17, 2011, 11 a.m. CST

    Kryptonite Hairballs

    by Stallion_Cornell

    That is all.

  • March 17, 2011, 11 a.m. CST

    Another origin story? let me guess, Lex is the villian?

    by Chain

  • March 17, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Snyder can't direct for shit

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Better get shooting it fast before Sucker Punch bombs.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:02 a.m. CST

    RIP Alfred

    by matchesmalone2380

    Michael Gough, who played Alfred in the Burton/Schumacher movies has passed away at age 94.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Yeah, sadly Michael Gough did pass away.

    by Chewtoy

    I really enjoyed his performances in the Batman films.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:03 a.m. CST

    The first part of "respecting the canon"

    by Snookeroo

    is to not fuck with the costume.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Hey, Lamerz...

    by darthderp

    Now, now, now...happy thoughts; it's almost the weekend. I agree, "first" is overrated, but you gotta get goofy every now and then, right?

  • March 17, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I see Snyder has learned a lesson from The Amazing Spider-Man

    by Chewtoy

    Hopefully it will include "don't give your hero tiny silver slippers" as well. Isn't it interesting that Marvel was able to hide Captain America in full costume for so long? The best anyone got was a snapshot of a stuntman.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Thundercats crossover.

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Fuck yeah.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST


    by ROBRAM89

    Zack Snyder and Kevin Smith are the only people who talk like that anymore. PS - If Cleese is alive I will come back and kill all of you.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    RIP This Movie

    by WriteForTheEdit

    So sad...

  • March 17, 2011, 11:10 a.m. CST

    He'll Be A Real Physical Cat, Dig? A Real Hep-Cat Daddy-O.

    by NeonFrisbee

    *cue bongos and upright bass.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Will he be a jellicle cat?

    by Frank Conniff

    Long live Cleese.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Eight nipples on Supercatsuit!

    by buggerbugger

    In 3D! With a free bowl of milk!

  • March 17, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Snyder will fuck this up somehow

    by Mozzerino

    After WATCHMEN, I have lost all faith in this dude. Just make weird CGI-Porn like SUCKER PUNCH, Zack! Stop messing around with geek icons. You just don't have it in you.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST


    by Professor_Monster

    I know the diet coke drinkers over at the WB have their crayons out trying to get their picture hung on the fridge but listen -- fucking stop. Just stop it. The returns costume was a joke - all of those little S mud flap designs resting on a rubber body suit that I'm sure Singer saw at some parade, right next to a collection of Divine look alikes. The suit NEEDS TO BE MADE OF CLOTH - NOT RUBBER. Superman doesn't need armor. Pull the Reeve, Helen Slater, Gerard Christopher (Superboy) costumes out and learn -- that's the comics. UNtouch. I know you guys think with a costume change you get differently dressed action figures - but resist it. Snyder's movie will suck - there's absolutely no hope for it at all - so at least give us a cool costume.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Sigh, we still have 'First!' morons..

    by jack Bauer

    I thought that had died like their brain cells. As for Cavill, he's not that tall is he? Also not as yet very bulked up, I'm sure Supes isn't supposed to be a super midget? Looked at the Dylan Dog trailer and I still say that Brandon was right for this...Pure Reeve more and more...

  • March 17, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Slow Motion Superman

    by twogunjames

    I expect at least 25 moments of the film slowing down and speeding up during fight sequences and rescue sequences. AT LEAST 25 times. Hell, Snycer may even start doing it while Clark Kent is walking down the street.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    NO underwear on the outside of his pants!!

    by darthwaz1

    Take at least that hint from the Batman costume..please get rid of those undies! so ridiculous-looking

  • March 17, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST

    This Superman is a cool frood who really knows where his towel is.

    by Centauri

  • March 17, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST

    I still wish he'd use John Williams' score. It's fuckin' epic.

    by Royston Lodge

    I mean, I still with Nolan had used at least a FEW elements from Danny Elfman's Batman score. The music from the first season of Batman: The Animated Adventures took Elfman's themes and REALLY gave them life. It would have been nice to hear the "da-da-da-daaaaa-daaaaa" flourish at least once during Nolan's flicks.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Just don't make him a gay stalker and you're cool

    by performingmonkey

    Well he could be gay, I wouldn't care if he was, just don't make him a pussy and a stalker of his family. Also, don't try too hard to pull off the bullshit of no-one recognizing Clark as Supes even though all he has is fuckin glasses on. A new reason for why no-one knows would be welcome IMO.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST

    So this is an Elseworlds story...

    by buggerbugger

    ...where Kal-El's rocket crashlands on Earth and the baby Superman is raised by two cats, Meow and Purr Kent?

  • March 17, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Snyder brings to Superman

    by Brian Hopper

    the same "virtues" Singer brought to it: a leaden sensibility, latent homosexuality and utter humorlessness. Gee, can't wait.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST

    How about going with the approach...

    by -Halfscan-

    .. that EVERYONE knows Superman's fucking origin, history, and backstory and give us something new for a change?

  • March 17, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Origin story

    by Inadequate Sandwich

    We haven't seen a Superman origin movie on the big screen since the 1970's. It's been over 30 years. I wouldn't mind seeing another take on the big screen, as long as it's done differently than in Donner's film. On the other hand if Midwestern conman Lex Luthor shows up and starts going on about a real estate scheme I'm leaving the theater.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:38 a.m. CST

    WTF? A cat?? Snyder is on crack...

    by firewhale

    First he says respect the canon, then he goes an makes Kryptonians have a feline-like physiology - direct quote: "[Superman's] a PHYSICAL CAT" (caps mine). What a fucking hypocrite. Maybe it should be retitled "Mancoon of Steel"? "Boycatt" this movie!!

  • March 17, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST

    "he’s got things to figure out, but he’s a physical cat"

    by red_weed

    God I hope that means he's at least bi-curious... that would be hot.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST

    I'm not worried about Superman's costume

    by Yaroh_Meringue

    Snyder actually did very well re: superhero costumes on Watchmen. I'm worried that he's going to give us an grim, angry, heat vision-abusing Superman. I've been worried about this since he said he was doing a Jim Lee Superman. I love Reeve's super-square (not naive like the Paul Dini cartoons) but super-smart Superman and I hope something of that characterization continues.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Can't help be find him irritating.

    by Inadequate Sandwich

    I try not to be all that negative, and try not to be a whiny "hater" as it were - there's nothing more idiotic to me than spouting hate for people and things incessantly on the internet - but the whole "physical cat" thing just further illuminates one of the things I find incredibly irritating about Zack Snyder. I hate that psuedo-hip "cool guy" speak he uses from time to time. I always feel like I'm listening to some fanboy with no real insight into characters or film making in general. The kind of guy who's most in depth and insightful commentary seems to run along the lines of "Yeah, Superman, it's really cool."

  • Really? Let's examine that statement for a moment. Here's a buff guy in bright blue tights, wearing a flowing red cape, with red knee-high booties, and a large, stylized "S" symbol on his chest. Not to mention a spit curl hair style. And the red underwear is what makes him look "ridiculous"?

  • March 17, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Nate Dogg, then Michael Gough...

    by darthderp

    ...anyone want to speculate on number 3?

  • March 17, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Why didn't they just call Watchmen

    by Brian Hopper

    "Giant Blue Penis"? It would have been a better marketing approach to attract its natural audience (the same audience as 300): gays.

  • March 17, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    So, he's a physical cat but will he be...

    by cushing1967

    A gentleman, a scholar, what an acrobat?

  • March 17, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST


    by SmokieGeezer

    "You're a pushy little bastard but I like that!"

  • March 17, 2011, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Aronofsky OUT on Wolverine film

    by Punisherthunder

    Aronofsky is out on the Wolvie film because he doesn't want to film overseas for so long. Surprised that you guys haven't picked up on this yet.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Really, the Aronofsky story is pretty huge.

    by Chewtoy

    Ah well... one less super-hero film to worry about on my radar.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST

    snookeroo - Because they were Singer friendly french cut bikini briefs

    by Liberal_Warrior

  • March 17, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    At least Stephen Sommers wouldn't blow JFK's head off.

    by Pvt. Duke

    Snyder makes over-wrought trash. I always thought Sommers was far-and-away the worst director going, but at least he seems to have fun with his glorified B-crap.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST


    by amin

    Snyder doesn't give a shit about superman . he said before that superman wasn't sophiticated enough for modern audiences.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Holy fuck, Aronofsky IS out of TEH Wolverine...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ...that sucks big time.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Aint it late on the wolverine news

    by knowthyself

    Bummer. Meanwhile...still excited for Snyders vision of Supes. I love his idea that "no other film existed before this one." Love it.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST

    The costume need to be classic

    by SKOTTO

    Sups needs to be in his classic Red Blue and Yellow. Not some "Black" leather thing.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    I've been rewatching "Lois & Clark" and...hey, come back!

    by spacehog

    Seriously, all the seasons are on Netflix Instant and while I feel like I need to write an essay justifying why on earth I'm watching it, I will instead plow ahead with my weak point. Which is just that "L&S" reminds me that a Superman origin story barely feels like a Superman story to me. What I like about the character is that he's basically God, a benevolent God who's just here to help and is completely unphased by, like, an invasion from another dimension. The last thing we need is yet another movie where he's learning to use his powers and ends up doing things like stopping bank robbers or lifting heavy things. We need God-Superman, Morrison-Superman, who can hear and discern every single heartbeat on the planet, who leaves the key to the Fortress of Solitude lying around because he's the only person in the universe who can lift it. I'm still unclear what "Man of Steel" is going to be like but I gather it's yet another origin story? Is this really the phase of his career that's the most interesting?

  • March 17, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Snyder has proven his commitement to source material.

    by knowthyself

    So I'm not worried about the costume or how the character will be portrayed. The man did Watchmen as faithful as humanely possible and if he can do that than he can adapt anything.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Well if it's a reboot I guess I see why Routh was left out.

    by The Founder

    Still don't like it, it's not gonna fool the public .

  • March 17, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    franky 5 fingers eeats dickc

    by NightArrows

    SoRRyk that's the fightino iroisjh in me speaking

  • March 17, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST


    by micturatingbenjamin

    You should invest a couple bucks in a dictionary, and then turn to the 'L' section and look up latent. If you only remember the five or so minutes where you can see a CGI cock out of a three hour movie... 1. Grow the fuck up. It's a dick. A big glowing blue dickpole. Also, it's blue. So, not even a real dick to get your pants knotted up over. It's like saying the flick was about rape because of that scene where Comedian attempts to rape Silk Spectre. Or that the movie is about mannequins because of every scene Malin Ackerman is in. 2. 300 was drawn by Frank Miller in that way. It's exactly the way he shot it. So, a bunch of ripped dudes in loincloths are stabbing the shit out of each other in slow motion? If that makes you think of sex...again, it's called being a latent, man... I can introduce you to my younger brother, but I gotta tell you he likes more mature guys. :) 3. Sucker Punch is gonna have LOTS of chicks doing awesome chick shit in it. I'm just busting your balls, man. Just because a particular flick has a dick in it, or buff dudes, doesn't make it gay. Being nervous about naked dicks? That's another story. MB

  • March 17, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Of course Aronofsky is off The Wolverine. You didn't see that coming?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Who goes from an Oscar nomination to the fifth version of a one-note comic book character? Seriously.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Michael Clarke Duncan as Lex Luthor?

    by Ryan Vaux

  • He made a movie, Watchmen, that to any normal human being is completely unwatchable. What's there to fathom?

  • ...and if the film is well received, then that will stay as the basis for his costume going forward. If it isn't (but yet still does well enough to warrant a sequel), then they'll say it was his "proto" Superman Suit and move closer to the traditional one in the sequel. Either way, from the moment the first images are shown of a majorly tweaked Supes design, defenders will be rushing the net to proclaim "It's an early suit he wears when he's just starting out!" and, as such, it "makes sense".

  • March 17, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST

    People who say Synder's Watchmen was faithfull...

    by Mozzerino

    or a shot-for-shot retelling are fucking morons and obviously don't get what is great about Alan Moore's masterpiece at all. Seriously, my mind boogles when I read stuff like that. I wouldn't even know where to start on that topic. Go back to the graphic novel and read the thing with your brain-helmet on. Then watch the film. If you still think it's the same, there's nothing I can do for you.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST

    subtitles off: Really. Nolan never had the Oscar nomination...

    by Chewtoy

    ...when he went to the fifth version of a one-note comic book character. Really though, according to reports it has to do with his break-up with Rachel Weisz and custody of their son keeping him from wanting to go live in Japan for a year's worth of filming.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    As long as Snyder remembers that

    by Yaroh_Meringue

    Masculine is not the same thing as angry. Action is not the same thing as violence. Batman is the bad guy to bad guys which is why he's dark and scary. Superman is art deco Jesus. You shouldn't make a 'The Dark Knight' about Superman. Reeve's Superman never once lost his cool when facing Zod in Superman II. He beat HIMSELF up mentally over being selfish, but he never took his mind off protecting people. He beat Zod by outwitting him, not outpunching him.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    I love Watchmen, but who's Alan Moore?

    by Ryan Vaux


  • March 17, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns costume was fine

    by elsewhere

    Aside from that it needed to be red and not maroon.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Araonofsky off Wolverine

    by montessaurus

  • March 17, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by montessaurus


  • March 17, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    I'm fine with making the costume textural and dimensional

    by Jaster

    But they TOTALLY fucked it in Superman Returns. Superman wears BLUE and RED. He has a FLOWING cape, not a fucking leather shower curtain! And while we're on the subject.....the cape comes over the shoulders not sprouting out of his neckline to hide muscle padding! I could go either way with the "S" on the back I suppose. Superman does NOT have a monogrammed belt buckle and he DOES NOT have a fucking "S" on his go go boots! He also does not wear fucking HOT PANTS! I would really like to see Superman have slicked back hair and not some fashion salon poofy feathered bullshit. Above all, make sure he fucking BULKS UP HUGE! This is Superman goddamnit!

  • March 17, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Re: I'm sure he was refuring to Cat

    by amnesiac108

    I can't tell if you're some kind of comic genius or not.....

  • Fighting Irish is apt, you're a sneaky little fuck Leprechaun who I'll never actually see.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST


    by micturatingbenjamin

    That's debatable. For a flick, it's as close as any studio, even the studio whores that OWN the property are going to get to being faithful to a long ass novel with pictures. I don't think anyone can honestly say 'It was a shot for shot' style remake. I liked the flick for what it was: the best version of that film that could be made as a feature and not as a miniseries on HBO. Also, I love Watchmen as a comic, but the more time that passes between 1985 and the current age, the more dated the book is. In about ten years, it's going to be one of those books like 1984, where the devices and 'visionary' science are quaint, almost laughable. Alan Moore's talent and depth of the comic, were a statement about the medium of comics. It was not meant to be a film. Ever. So, I think given that the thing wasn't supposed to be a movie, ever, Snyder has balls for trying, and didn't do a terrible job. Some things were awesome, some were outright goddamned horrible (Malin Can't Act-erman), but I can watch that flick every couple months or so when I get in the mood to look at it again. But you didn't like it doesn't mean that folks who did are fucking idiots. I haven't found a guy or gal yet who flat-out LOVED that movie. I have found people who enjoyed it when they saw it in the theater. The Director's Cut is pretty good, though. MB

  • March 17, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Just like Singer, you know Snyder

    by Brian Hopper

    will make a movie that should be called Superman: Turn Off the Gay.

  • Subtitles_Off Seriously.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST

    But what about The Wolverine?

    by wrx

    Aronofsky's off the Wolverine movie?????WTF????

  • March 17, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST

    New Costume: Superman should wear a hat

    by Ryan Vaux

    But since it's Snyder he'll probably be waxed and shirtless or wearing some kind of magic face sock.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST


    by TallanDagwood

    I certainly can not speak for any but myself, but my reasons for not being enthralled by the movie Watchmen, basically are the opposite of what you posted made it entertaining for you. That is: A shot for shot telling, and replacing the squid with Dr Manhattan. The shot for shot problem is this: It does not allow for the difference in media. A movie does not have the same pacing and flow as that of a novel or comic book. You remove the 'vision' and authorship of the director by adhering so closely to the source. What works on paper, does not necessarily translate well to the screen. Now that is not the case in all circumstances, but I think it is such for the Watchmen. It became dull and plodding and a bit boring because he put everything- but the squid, from the book into the movie. The book gave you context and layers and hours of reading that you could take a break from. The movie - even as long and faithful as it was, felt superficial Almost a highlight reel, like he was saying 'I have to do this, then this, then this' . As for the squid. I have no objection to changing the monster from an extraterrestrial squid to, well something else. But making it be Dr Manhattan for the express purpose of uniting the world against a common threat ignores the singular fact that Dr. Manhattan is viewed worldwide as an American. So, even though NYC was one of the cities leveled, it would not stop most people from assuming it was still an American driven agenda, and thus it undermines the reason for murdering so many millions in the first place. The squid looks ridiculous, and like I said could have been replaced, but using an American was not the answer.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST


    by Mozzerino

    Good point well made. But in my defense, I never said, that people who like the Snyder-movie are morons. I said that people who think that it's the same as the novel are morons. Big difference there. But I reject the notion that Snyder did the best film-version of that material possible. No he didn't. He made a lot of bad choices on that film (Malin Akerman being one of them). Too much of them, that I can list them here now. He made a few good ones too, I give you that. Still, the bad overweighs the good in my opinion. And the argument "Hey, he did the best he could with the hacks at the studio peaking over his shoulders" doesn't fly with me at all. That's the case with every movie.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Sounds good

    by Keith

    I like Synder and I love Nolan. I really excited about this movie because I think they cast the right guy, and that is always the first step. I felt the same way when Christian Bale was cast as Batman. I have nothing but trust for these guys.

  • March 17, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Two things I got from the article...

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    Zack Snyder's ideas are awesome (according to Nolan). Future casting news is full of awesomeness. What a fluff piece of journalism that was. Can we get some actual news next time?

  • March 17, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    "The man's worked hard, you know"...

    by UltimaRex

    And he likes to do things right, so he has a straight Schweppes tonic, cos IT'S GOT CITRIC BITE. Strrraiiiight Schwweeeeppesss, (yeah!) You know it's riiiggghhhtttt...

  • March 17, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    I wonder if, like in Watchmen, there will be

    by Brian Hopper

    a giant blue penis in Superman. Although I suppose in Superman it would be a giant red penis. In any event, it's a Zack Snyder movie so you know there will be a giant penis in it.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    by UltimaRex

    For those who missed out. Now sing along with me. Strrraiiiight Schwweeeeppesss.....

  • March 17, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST

    The Superman Returns costume actually was a little gay.

    by Chewtoy

    Or a little more gay, if you're going to be specific about a blue-tights and red boots outfit to begin with. But since that's the accepted Superman wear, I count that as kind of baseline. As a concept artist by trade, it's easy to recognize that the design had a slightly elevated sexual bend to it, and in a way that was more feminine than masculine. The proportions of the Returns suit reduced the chest emblem which traditionally emphasized the broadness of the chest and shoulders, a very masculine trait, while lowering the belt line to create an elongated torso that emphasized the abdomen, a feature common in emphasizing feminine sexuality. It's subtle, but that's the result of combining a low cut brief with a high-set chest emblem. Superman was totally coming on to you and wanting your imagination to dip lower still... That saucy bitch.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Snyder's Watchmen had some beautiful moments.

    by knowthyself

    One being Dr. Manhattan's chapter on Mars. He translated many of the books ideas into some beautiful imagery. For me the pro's outweigh the cons and yes for the most part he kept the comic intact embelishing the action to suit his needs but keeping the characters similar to their comic counterparts. Like any good adaptation he changes what has to be changed so that the film and the book remain two seprate entities both successful on their own terms. One bad song choice or one bad fight scene doesn't ruin an entire movie for me. Watchmen is a love or hate flick but I'll be damned if I didn't love it and the Ultimate Edition being the best version out there.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    chewtoy - Astute observation on the Returns suit.

    by Brian Hopper

  • March 17, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    This is not your gay brother's Superman!

    by cookylamoo

  • March 17, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Watchmen blue penis jokes....

    by knowthyself

    ..comic book nerds cry that nobody takes their art seriously. Snyder dares to do so by showing a naked man on screen and all they do is bitch and cry about having to see a penis. You deserve your bad comic book adaptations. This is why Aronofsky is off Wolverine. Cause when he shows some Jackman slong people are just going to bitch about the hard on they got watching it.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    More excited for this than Avengers

    by bishopfan85

    Zack Snyder is pretty much the ultimate choice for a Superman movie that has the ability to take the true weight of the iconic character and put every pound on screen. Frankly I can't imagine this not being designed to include some of the best action sequences, most intriguing story elements and those elements that will lead to audience cheers in theaters and a lot of buzz as they leave mystified by the resurgence of this classic character. I personally consider this the most anticipated Superhero film to come even outdoing the Avengers.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST


    by micturatingbenjamin

    Exactly. Boy panties are gay. But, I've decided to explain it thusly, because I try to find something good in every comic book movie... because I remember when comic book movies were so rare, I had to watch fucking Condorman. So, I explain the suit in Returns like this: Superman only has business casual to hide his alter ego, so his Super-Suit needs to be fucking outlandish. So, when a six three dude blasts through your wall after a bank robbery, wearing a leather cape, cowboy boots, a union suit, and leather boy panties over his big-boy pants, with a spit curl, the last fucking thing you're looking at is his face. Seriously, Clark Kent doesn't need the glasses, because when people see Superman, all they see is that weird ass outfit. For example: I have a hard time picturing William Katt's face without that bitchin blonde perm and a red Greatest American Hero suit! :)

  • March 17, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Lois Lane sits in a chair wistfully stroking her pussy

    by Jeff Myers

    The only physical cat I want to see in a Superman movie.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    There was nothing wrong...

    by Grrrr....

    ...with the Superman costume in Returns. Period.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    The Returns costume was fine.

    by knowthyself

    I was more troubled by the script, plot, and the almost religious observance to the Donnor original.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST

    The Returns costume looked liked the prize entry in a gay pride day contest

    by Liberal_Warrior

    The movie sucked as did singer

  • Discuss.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Oh, I don't think the costume sank "Returns" at all.

    by Chewtoy

    For me, the pacing and the retread of elements I had seen before killed off my interest in the film. And while it wouldn't have been my choice in designing his look, I can overlook a little fanservice towards a segment of the audience as well. Superman doesn't have to be the manliest man in the history of men for my sake. I just don't think we need to bury our heads in the sand about the design choice either.

  • Singer loves injecting his orientation where there is no need to do so. It is more a commentary on him than anything else. See his Xmen equating mutants to homosexuals and turning magneto into a gay blade as well casting choices. I can't quibble at all with McKellen, but Spacey?

  • March 17, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Cat is a figure of speech

    by Warren Fahy

    You turkey.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    micturatingbenjamin - Gimme a break. Watchmen

    by Brian Hopper

    has more penis screen time by far than any other non-X-rated film ever made. How they talked that one past the notoriously prudish MPAA and got an R rating, I'll never know. Merely pointing out that Watchmen has a hugely distracting giant blue penis in it does not reflect latent homosexuality (unless you mean Snyder's...)

  • March 17, 2011, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Superman ain't no jive turkey!

    by beane2099

    He's a real physical cat. And that is one bad OUTFIT, Jack!

  • March 17, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    The returns costume had a few issues but not many

    by Adelai Niska

    Maroon cape should have been red. The boots had huge thick heels. Not sure the raised chestpiece makes sense under clothes. THAT IS ALL. The Superman costume is iconic and should not be altered to avoid talkback asshats who think tights are gay.

  • March 17, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST

    writefortheedit: I think the answer is definitely "no".

    by Chewtoy

    But I also think there's a certain disservice in suggesting that none of a director's sexuality makes it through to the final film, or that it should never be acknowledged. These things influence our passions and our preferences without hindering our ability to communicate universal ideas at the same time. Even more, however, I think that it's entirely possible for a work of expression to actually have a gay subtext to all or parts of it regardless of who created it, and that it's okay to acknowledge that as well. The sexual signals of fashion have been subverted and manipulated for ages... there's no reason that Singer or any other director can't play with them. Lord knows rock stars of the 70's and 80's loved to subvert them without any hits to their popularity. Johnny Depp scored his biggest hit by playing his character "gay" (in the estimation of a great many viewers) before revealing he was basing it on one of those rock stars as well. We can argue with the way people are reacting to these things, but there's no reason to pretend that these things don't exist at all.

  • March 17, 2011, 2 p.m. CST

    m6y No, mentioning blue dicks

    by micturatingbenjamin

    Doesn't make you a latent. But this is the second time you've alluded to being driven to distraction by said penis. You've even logged the number of minutes the dick's on screen, and I think you're exaggerating, man. Unless, you mean you kept looking for the dick when Manhattan was in a scene and his dick wasn't out. I remember a dude was naked, and you're counting his dick-veins over here. Just saying, if dick nearby distracts you, and you find yourself being taken out of the movie by the mere presence of dicks, you might like looking at dicks. Nothing wrong with that, man. Be a dick-looker. Just don't say Snyder's gay for keeping the blue dicks from the comic in the film. He didn't invent blue dicks. Alan Moore did.

  • March 17, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    This groovy cat knows where his super dick is...

    by Arafel

    Zack Synder revealed everything that he plans to do with THE SUPERMAN, which will be the final title. He will take the character back to it's roots, which means it will be set in the 1940's, and Superman will be a reporter covering WWII. He will fight Nazi's, which means his main villain will be CAPTAIN NAZI. I can't wait!

  • March 17, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST


    by micturatingbenjamin

    Tights aren't gay, necessarily. But even the bikini briefs of Chris Reeve were less gay than the boy-cut panties they slapped on Singer's Superman. Also, his cape is red material, but not fucking leather with no symbol. Reeve's costume was damned cool. is what modern Superman looks like. Here's Singer's: If a guy says "Hey, I'm a gay filmmaker." and comes back from the drawing table with costume number two as his favorite of those two? I'm going to say, hey ding-dong, get back to the table, and make something that doesn't look like Bob Fosse designed it. And as for people saying Singer doesn't let his homosexuality permeate his flicks, in Usual Suspects, the cop insinuates that Spacey and Byrne's characters might have something more than friendship there. Just saying...dude has his sexuality on his sleeve sometimes.

  • March 17, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST

    micturatingbenjamin - A gay guy I know

    by Brian Hopper

    who (obviously) like penises found the giant blue Watchmen penis "annoying." Look, would you want to see a giant vagina on screen? I doubt it, and I doubt most people would. What I'm talking about is not a question of uncomfortableness with male nudity, or faithfulness to source material... I'm talking about plain old good taste, which Snyder (not just on this issue, but many others) sorely lacks. I have next to no faith in his ability to do justice to Superman. I felt the same way about Singer and was sadly proved correct. Especially in the tone of his work (bereft of humor and lacking in any sense of irony), I would say Snyder is a VERY poor fit for the world of the Daily Planet and Clark Kent.

  • March 17, 2011, 2:17 p.m. CST

    'Man of Steel' is a lame title

    by Lex Lybrand

    I get it. 'The Dark Knight' was really successful in that it made $500M+ domestic being the first and only Batman movie to not have "Batman" in the title AND the title succinctly wrapped up the film (largely thanks to Oldman's VO at the end). BUT... 'Man of Steel' doesn't sounds as cool as 'Dark Knight.' It just doesn't. Just like 'The Caped Crusader' doesn't sound as cool. Calling the movie "Superman" is good enough for me. Not "The Superman" or "Superman: Subtitle" or anything unnecessarily trendy.

  • March 17, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Zack Snyder is Lame

    by D o o d

    I seriously am not looking forward to his bullshit slow-mo over the top and clearly visible cheap special effects fest. I wish he had more class and taste, but none his movies show that!

  • March 17, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST

    liberal_warrior and chewtoy

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Spacey is GAY?!?!? Kidding. Agreed that a director is likely to and has the artistic license to inject some of his or her personality and preferences into their work. Also agreed that costume design is an area where such preferences are to be quite visible. Clothes, as they say, make the man (or woman). Do I think most would agree that X-Men have ALWAYS been about homosexuals, among other societal "outcasts?" I think so. Anyway, my question really was more about the fanbase's humorous reactions, rather than a more scholarly discussion about the subject. Boy panties. *GIGGLE!*

  • Otherwise it's just part of the tapestry of the film. So if you are fixated on the peepee, embrace your true nature, get some assless chaps and start singing 'It's Raining Men" at the top of your lungs cuz you got a cock-on!

  • March 17, 2011, 2:34 p.m. CST that a serious question?

    by Jaster

    Ever hear of a movie called Lifeforce?

  • March 17, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Waiting for the Superman/Thor crossover movie

    by Snookeroo

    "...which will result in a new West Coast. MY west coast." "Coasta-del-Lex, Odin-burg..." "Odin-burg??" "ODIN-burg??"

  • March 17, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST

    The Superman is a better title than Batman

    by David Cloverfield

    If you just think about the title The Superman, without the character it's majestic, exciting and a little creepy with all sorts of implications. Yeah, the name Batman sounds creepy and mythical too, but it's a little sillier not as primal as the name superman. So I get why they went with the title Dark Knight, but "The Superman" sounds pretty cool to me, no need to use Man of Steel. (Which I like, but THE SUPERMAN is better.)

  • March 17, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST

    The costume shouldn't need to be "revealed" at all

    by Movietool

    Just do the traditional costume, you nimrods. You know, the most ICONIC, RECOGNIZABLE costume in all of comic book history? The one NO ONE had any problems accepting in any of the TV shows or movies until Singer came along and decided that it needed to be "updated" because the modern audience wouldn't accept it. But no, they'll change it significantly somehow, because it is impossible for modern hollywood to do a movie about a famous comic-book character without pissing all over it to make it their own.

  • March 17, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Hackman should have shaved his head...etc..

    by ZOMBRE

    Superman in the comics looks like a male stripper spray painted with glossy paint. I mean he really looks ridiculous. (and i love him for it) I prefer the Siegel era Superman where he looks like he's wearing a costume. The Superman we love and know only works in a 40's setting. How cool would it be to have a period Superman movie? Like Rocketeer? And maaan aside from Superman II, Superman actually needs to fight a giant monster robot in downtown Metropolis for once for Pete's sake. We dont need more of this stubbly Superman flicking peanuts when theres no money for a story, or directors hiring a daytime soap opera star that they secretly have the hots for. Superman. Like the Fleischer cartoons. Make this Zack.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    I liked the Superman Returns costume

    by billF

    I think changing the colors to the shades or red and blue helepd a great deal. I love the Christopher Reeves movies but the bright color and design of the costume does make it look dated. (I saw it originally in the theater). So I hope this new movie goes closer in the direction of the Superman Returns costume.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:05 p.m. CST

    "[Superman] never took his mind off protecting people." DUDE...

    by Astronut


  • March 17, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Big Blue

    by D Jones

    WB will not allow to many changes to the suit unless they are involved in another gold mining lawsuit by Shuster & Siegles heirs.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Supeman can has you cheezburger?

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    Physical cats needz cheezburger.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    You know he'll be wearing jeans, a hoodie and a blue t-shirt...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...that he draws an "S" symbol on in the final act. This ain't like whatever the current canonical origin of Superman is in the comics (fucker's had like 5 in just the last decade alone) where Ma Kent sews the costume using that Kryptonian super-blanket from the old spaceship Pa's got under a tarp in the barn. I swear to god, though, if they use that stupid "heat vision as blowing his wad" theme when Lana kisses him I'll bolt from the theatre, fly to LA, and smack Snyder in the jaw with an axe handle.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST


    by Astronut

    JJ Abrams' version of TREK was freaking CITIZEN KANE and STAR WARS wrapped into one compared to what it would have been if Snyder got that job. The only thing worse would have been if Michael Bay got it. I am so, so worried about wtf he is going to do to Superman. God help us all.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST

    rise_of_fett - Is Captain Picard's

    by Brian Hopper

    giant blue penis in Lifeforce? I do remember Matilda May's breasts, on the other hand...

  • March 17, 2011, 3:23 p.m. CST

    It was important that Manhattan be naked.

    by knowthyself

    That shows plenty of maturity on Snyders part. But what do you expect when you're dealing with such an immature fan base of comic book fans. "Watchmen comic is TEH MATUREZ!" Then it's, "OH NOEZ DEZ BLUEZ PENIZ!"

  • March 17, 2011, 3:34 p.m. CST

    I'll ask him. He's here at NBC/U today.

    by Pixelsmack

    And I love his Aston. A man of taste.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Superman: Earth One

    by Bubba Gillman

    Has its fans and its detractors. But the suit as illustrated in the book would make a great basis for the movie. Subtly updated while retaining the iconic look.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST


    by NoMotivatioN

    I dont think thats what he meant by using the word "cat" but it did make me laugh at the end of the post/article/news. This sounds good cant wait, dude, the worst news of the year is that Wolvernine isnt being directed by...... wrong page for that ... SUPERMAN MAN OF STEEL yahhoo ;/ damn the haters of Synder.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Zack snyder can barely talk. and what he says is banal and silly.

    by AsimovLives

  • March 17, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST

    If only the new film could have stuff

    by Brian Hopper

    as good as (for example) the single shot of Superman swooping down onto Lois's rooftop pad in Donner's Superman as he arrives for their interview... the music, Reeve's poise and confidence, the sense of romance and adventure, not to mention the incredible wire work and Unsworth's photography. I mean, to the extent Superman Returns recaptures any of the occasional magic of Donner's Superman, it's because Singer borrows directly from it (e.g., Williams' perfect score). *sigh* Can Snyder get any of it right? I doubt it.

  • March 17, 2011, 3:57 p.m. CST

    When is this movie comin out?

    by NoMotivatioN

    God damn it, no CGI COSTUME please and please no In.Hulk type movie... make it more like Matrix, in tone and look no thats not what I mean but Use Film like Inception,pase like Star Trek no wait not what I mean lol who cares lets just get a movie we've never seen, something new, use every damn resource known to the movie world. Make us cry, cheer,clap,laugh and in the end make an ending so out of this world that you return over and over to study, oh and action that Mr.Carmen goes "shit that rocked!"aaand oh have another pINT. St.Patricks day and Im drunk, what the hell, is that an impossible movie to make? nahhhhh im sure he can do it ;/

  • March 17, 2011, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Keep The John Williams theme or I will find you....

    by SmokieGeezer

    I'm Talking to you!

  • March 17, 2011, 4:21 p.m. CST

    SUBSTITUTE V could be made with Coke/Whore budget for this movie.

    by SmokieGeezer

    Kneeeel before Karl Thommason!

  • March 17, 2011, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Re: Braindrain - agree wholeheartedly...

    by SK229

    And I'm not even a fan of Abrams, but fuck me if Snyder isn't worse. This probably sounds whacky, but I feel like he's Richard Kelly if Kelly didn't try so hard to make smart films. They remind me of each other for some reason that I can't put my finger on.

  • I'm freakin worried Snyder decides to make a personal 'stamp' on the character by changing the costume.

  • March 17, 2011, 5:07 p.m. CST

    This film will suck.

    by Shaun1138

    "Sucker Punch" looks like a video game. Superman all new origin story with no classic superman costume will blow the biggest cock of them all......mine.

  • March 17, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST

    ”Respect the canon but don’t be a slave to the movies.”

    by KilliK

    oh right,that's why you are bringing back Zod from SM2 ?

  • let me guess: ripping off Avatar there mr Snyder? shame on you.

  • March 17, 2011, 5:44 p.m. CST

    What is wrong with you people

    by Mummy_Under_Your_Bed

    I could take or leave Zack Snyder, but I do think he respects the subject matter. I'm sure some fanboy will come in and say that if he DID respect the subject matter, then he WOULDN'T have made Watchmen, but whatever. His Watchmen is probably as close to the book as anyone can come in a 2.5 hour movie. I'm sure he realizes the gravity of being in charge of the most iconic superhero/comic character.

  • March 17, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Snyder's crap..

    by bufordtannen

    .. it doesn't matter what he says, he'll deliver shit. Jus look at his face, it's the face of an incapable buffoon who's been lucky.

  • March 17, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Superman's costume "not fashionable"

    by hank henshaw

    Sometimes people talk about Superman's superhero costume, and how it can't be used in a contemporary setting, because modern audiences wont accept the silly looking outfit. Like people in 1938 were running around in primary colors tights, and a cape wrapped around their necks. The bright colored costumes is what superheroes wear while doing their super-heroics. It's kinda like circus performers: you don't see acrobats or clowns in their bright colored costumes at the supermarket, or waiting in line at the bank.

  • March 17, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST

    OK, so he used the Watchmen comic as a storyboard...

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    ...but he didn't understand it. If he had, the characters wouldn't have been superhumans, falling through rooftops, running through fire, doing backflips, punching walls! They were meant to be ordinary people in middle age, hence the huge impact Manhattan has because he is truly more than human. Then you have the amendment of the alien attack to it being the USA's number one weapon! Anybody who doesn't think that Russia would have nuked America the second 'Manhattan' destroys the world's cities is either a liar or an idiot. Then you have Veidt's arc destroyed. "Nothing ever ends...". Watchmen is a shit film. I'm not against changes, but these ones contradicted the film's own logic. I've no hope for Superman. If it's decent that will be a bonus.

  • March 17, 2011, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Hey can have this idea for free....

    by presidentevil

    instead of clogging up the movie, with an often redundant origin (most already know) about you guys film it , then release it on whomever you guys have cable or network release deals with as an appetizer prequel, then tack it onto the bluray or dvd as an extra, with the OPTION of it playing before or meshing with the actual film. It would wet the appetites of John Doe and the Fanboys and make some money from the networks to show it for either half an hour, or an hour (or take a loss and call it a tax right-off...whatever) that way ya can get to the meat nd potatoes of the story... now that would be a hell of an advertisment, would only work if the studio would have some balls and stand behind the movie though...anyways maybe a good idea, maybe not....there it is

  • the ending to the movie Watchmen made more sense than the book.

  • March 17, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST


    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    Out of interest, in what ways do you think the Watchmen film's ending was better than the book?

  • March 17, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST

    cocknasty_buttstank you dick...

    by MurderMostFowl

    You made me google all over myself for that shitty John Cleese falsehood.

  • ...where Darth Vader tells Luke that he's his father. Everybody already knows! The cat's out of the bag. Everybody knows Superman is from Krypton, was raised on a farm, and believes in truth, justice, and the American way. Skip that and you can focus on putting together one kickass Man of Steel story!

  • March 17, 2011, 7:19 p.m. CST


    by AllThosePowers

    ...responds neither intelligently, coherently or logically to any question posed to him. This thing that most choose to refer to as a 'man' is in fact a walking disaster. Lord knows what it thinks, but I for one shan't be persuaded to sit through a product of what it says. It is quite simply beyond the incomprehensible the studio, the writer, producer and director all believe with complete conviction, might i add, they are able to dethrone the 1970s classic. What in heaven earth and hell has possessed them to even believe they're equipped to snatch away that crown so they can wear it themselves. The origins cannot be bettered, it's futile to even attempt to capture that bolt of lightening, it cannot and will not be ever done. So move on you......

  • March 17, 2011, 7:22 p.m. CST


    by AllThosePowers


  • March 17, 2011, 7:29 p.m. CST


    by luke_lymon

    the forgotten one! He must be part of this legacy

  • March 17, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST

    and of course im right

    by Smack_Teddy

  • March 17, 2011, 7:55 p.m. CST

    This is why I can't stand fanboys.

    by cotygeek

    It used to be in movies you couldn't please everyone. Now it seems that you can't please anyone.

  • March 17, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    I hope the title really is SUPERMAN (MAN OF STEEL!?)

    by CountryBoy

  • March 17, 2011, 8:19 p.m. CST


    by MrMysteryGuest

  • March 17, 2011, 9:12 p.m. CST

    my two cents

    by deelzbub

    I think Snyder did fine on both 300 and Watchmen. If those movies had been made by any other director or studio, do you really think they would have been better or as close to respecting the source material that they achieved? And walking around with his big blue dong hanging out was part of Dr Manhattan's schtick. If Snyder had left that out, it really wouldn't have shown Manhattan's godlikeness, his disconnect with the conventions of humanity. It was part of the story, cats. I wasn't pleased with the old lady make-up on Carla Gugino, it took me out of the movie waaay more than the absence of the dead squid. But I did think leaving the squid out was a mistake. And Superman returns was a big waste of film. They took something that could have been great, and tried to make Superman 5: Quest for Paternity. And the costume was the worst version we have seen...of course, not including Tim Burton's Disco Superman. As much as I enjoyed the Superman movies as a kid, I never thought Christopher Reeve was the definitive Superman. I don't think that man has been found yet. George Reeves was close. Christopher always looked like he was about to bust out laughing while he was delivering his lines. Picture Hader doing Stefon. Hopefully Snyder will take his cues from the Fleischer Superman cartoons. Then I will be happy.

  • March 17, 2011, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Where's the Michael Gough story?

    by darthSaul666

  • March 17, 2011, 9:20 p.m. CST

    @ Hank Hershaw

    by deelzbub

    the thing about the circus performers wearing their get-ups in public. Since the superheroes costumes were kind of based on those and wrestler's costumes, let me tell you something. Alot of wrestlers wear some pretty outlandish shit in public on a daily basis. So it is really not that out of the way. I could tell you some stories. Those guys live life like 3 year olds who never grew up. They are the closest thing we have to comic book-style superheros we have walking the planet.

  • March 17, 2011, 9:38 p.m. CST

    No Zod I want Mongel!!!!!

    by darthSaul666

    Or Brainiac... or even Darkseid.... I'm sure someone will troll out on this but really enjoyed Watchmen... It was about say 75% accurate to the comic IMO... Sin City takes the record for being about 95% accurate the books.... Honestly I'm hot or cold for Snyder.... The DOTD remake missed the point. I didn't like 300 as a comic book so can't really have a fair opinion on the flick... I have some rather high hopes for Supes if they are willing not to retread old flicks!!!!!!!

  • March 18, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST

    EMO Supes? PASS!

    by quantize

    seriously.. He's part of popular culture now..just deliver a fucking kick ass movie, dont bother with yet more completely totally unnecessary fucking back story.

  • March 18, 2011, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Just get a good villain and big fight scenes...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Movie will make a boat load and sequels will follow. Singer didn't do this and failed.

  • March 18, 2011, 3:56 a.m. CST

    Regarding the costume, if they were smart...

    by Jaka

    ...they'd develop a website with a bunch of costume choices/design elements and let people discuss them there. The best thing that could happen is that they'd actually listen and produce a costume that appealed to as many people as possible. The worst it would do is allow people time to get pissed off about the costume before seeing the movie (and maybe even get used to it). <p> I've liked all of Snyder's movies, so I guess I don't share the hate that so many of you have (although that's how I feel about most talkbacks these days, because there is always a group that hates whatever is being discussed). I don't think ANY of his movies are perfect, but they've all been enjoyable for me to watch (and re-watch). Also, I don't hate his use of slow-mo, or whatever the affect is called. Its his thing - no big deal.

  • March 18, 2011, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Hey I got a great idea.....

    by The Chebb about keeping the original costume!

  • March 18, 2011, 8:20 a.m. CST


    by ColloquiallyBorn

    .. you had me at "giant vagina"...

  • March 18, 2011, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Diane Lane casting as Ma Kent..

    by ColloquiallyBorn

    She said “I’ve always wanted to raise a good man,” .. I can reply back to her "Oh don't worry Diane.. You did make lots of good men get raises!" Lane as Ma Kent.. sexiest Ma Kent EVER!

  • March 18, 2011, 9:15 a.m. CST


    by Lucky13

    What I really needed was another Superman original story, since I hadn't seen one in any previous Superman movie... or a 10 yr running (incredibly homosexual) TV show... So I'm totally psyched to see YET ANOTHER origin story on Supes. I'm sure we, the audience, will learn much about his life on the farm. Fuckin' hell.

  • March 18, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    That's "origin" story

    by Lucky13

    Not "original" story... fuckin' edit buttons, Harry. For fuck's sake!

  • March 18, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    I've said it before, I'll say it again and again...

    by Subtitles_Off

    rogueleader, go fuck yourself. Seriously. You're wasting your time with me, bub. One of The Choppahs probably needs an ego boost. Run along.

  • March 18, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Sack Snyder get Darren Aronofsky

    by bufordtannen

    Do it now! Now!

  • March 18, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST


    by NoMotivatioN

    Those movies are weak, suck and never ever worked your just feeling your child hood boner over them and it. Superman Returns had one good sence , the Airplane falling sence and that was it. Can we stop talking like the Donner superman was great cause its super annoying, yes it was cool then or fun to watch on channel 13teeen buuut a movie now ,today that looked and was shot like that (superman returns) would fucking blow. Give Synder a chance. Plus people here should love him, he got a late start and his first movie was made at the age of 40? right or close to it. Which all have been good filmed movies. He gets the story hes tryin to convey lol i need to get his cock out of my mouth, all im sayin is , that those movies arent as great as your makin out to be, fun , cool ,watched as a kid now still like em but not as great as your making out to be. RELAX

  • March 18, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST


    by Smack_Teddy

    is everyone's penis supposed to be red? All of a sudden I'm seriously worried somethings wrong with me or mine.

  • March 18, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Well i don't know about the costume

    by Smack_Teddy

    but i definitly pick up a 'gay' subtext in Superman Returns, not a 'homoerotic one' like fast and furious or top gun, but a 'gay' one.

  • March 18, 2011, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Will Clark Luthor be in this movie?


  • March 19, 2011, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Tits to Superman - how about doing 'Zenith' from 2000AD?

    by BiggusDickus

    Now that's an entertaining superhuman story!

  • March 19, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST

    I have toi say I'm with Prestigeworldwide...

    by Steepdog1

    on the "Watchmen." I also dont get why people don't like that movie. In fact, I think I would have utterly no interest in a new superman movie if not for the fact that I reallly liked "Watchmen." I do agree that it tried a little TOO hard to follow a source material that was nearly impossible to adapt to the letter. And I completely agree that making Dr. Manhattan the threat at the end, while fitting nicely into the plot, completely undermined the point of it originally being an alien in the first place. Other than that though, If you just take it for what it was... I still don't see why people didn't like that movie.

  • that manages to break through Synders other work and feel quite emotional and soulful but in a weird anthropological like way, with the combination of images and sound (feel free to call me autistic or something on this one), where the main character you identify and resonate in cinematic feel with outside of Rosarch is in fact Dr Manhattan ... which is ironic or a shame i guess depending on how you look at it because the change in the ending really did undermine or switch the point of Watchmen and its original one... but Watchmen was very 'specific' in design overall as a piece of co-authored work with all its characters and their history's/identity's combined into the whole structure according to the comics material it reflects upon in a 'real life' interpretation... whereas Superman has a broader context and intepretation to the character, the material and its history, a single character, despite sharing alot in common with Manhattan... so for these reasons im calling slight of hand mistake/interpretation on Synders part in deciding to change the ending to give the audience more of a grasp in a cinematic context/medium - a progressive-ridiculous-bizarro-like gender reversal of kiss me deadly if you like - rather than that of the comics, and the house came tumbling down there, but all the same i still find a Zack Synder Superman really interesting at this point and have faith that he can nail cinematically a single character study, one that exists outside of an amazing piece of one-off authored work.

  • March 19, 2011, 8:17 p.m. CST

    we shall see

    by ihatefanboys

    Honestly cant be any worse than SUPERMAN RETURNS. singer totally fucked up the last movie by allowing a scene with Clark kent in smallville with glasses. I shouldnt even have to explain that to anyone here. If i do, then youre dumb. toss in the lamest version of luthur ever seen, and i love kevin spacey, the kryptonite island, where its complete kryptonite but superman can stand on it and not be weakened till someone actually punches him, wtf. the asthmatic offspring. the totally out of character lois lane, turned from wisecracking reporter into movie of the week damsel in distress. top it off with superman being stupid too. anyone knows u dont grab an airplane by the weakest point on it, the wings, duh... lets forget that abortion of a movie, and move on....i personally wish they would just give us tom welling and michael rosenbaum....the two BEST clark and lex portrayals EVER....

  • March 20, 2011, 7:51 a.m. CST


    by UltimaRex

    You just undermined your entire rant by mentioning Welling. Things are supposed to get better not worse.

  • March 20, 2011, 8:09 a.m. CST

    John Cleese isn't dead

    by Peter David

    He's just resting. Or perhaps he's pining for the fjords. PAD

  • There was so much more fucking up SR, like the Kryptonite Island idea and the weird stalker shit going on, that only Aspies are going to be worried about the Superman costume. Movie viewers don't give a fuck about the nuances of his costume. It's always been ridiculous. Is the story worth a fuck?

  • March 20, 2011, 3:18 p.m. CST

    I trust Snyder

    by catlettuce4

    He will make this look like Superman is supposed to, I have no doubt. I worry about the "origin" script, and that it will still be a "setup" type movie rather than one where Superman is already established and can do Superman-like things. Time will tell.

  • March 20, 2011, 10:32 p.m. CST

    They should completely ignore the canon

    by Teddy Artery

    when it comes to the costume. The traditional Superman costume is absurd. What they did for the X-men suits, they should do for Superman.

  • March 21, 2011, 7:54 a.m. CST

    The Anti-Life Equation!

    by Arafel

    loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding x guilt x shame x failure x judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side

  • March 21, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Superman's costume was NEVER fashionable.

    by Wazoo

    You didn't see dudes in the 1930s and 40s running around in shorts over tights with a cape! It's one of the things that makes him unique. It's not so much a costume as it is a uniform that makes him stand out. The iconic costume should stay. It stands out in 2011 just as much as it did in 1938. Now the line...up, up, and away.....that can be deep sixed.

  • March 21, 2011, 2:25 p.m. CST

    in real life dammit!

    by Smack_Teddy

  • March 22, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST


    by Stalkeye

    "There was so much more fucking up SR, like the Kryptonite Island idea and the weird stalker shit going on, that only Aspies are going to be worried about the Superman costume." Fucking comedic gold! XD

  • March 22, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Wassamatter Smackf@ggy, did spire hurt yer widdle feelings?

    by Stalkeye

    And for the record, I know what aspergers syndrome is, and judging from a few posts (including yours) i am more than enlightened on said subject. Cheers, Queer.

  • March 22, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST

    stalkeye i call bullshit you infant goatfucker

    by Smack_Teddy

    up yours, mummy/daddies twat for brains

  • March 22, 2011, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Eradicator suit for the reboot!

    by Detective_Fingerling

    Minus the yellow shooting glasses.

  • March 22, 2011, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Go with the George Reeves suit

    by Crimson Dynamo

  • March 23, 2011, 3:23 a.m. CST

    LMMFAO Now look who's the "sad whino bitch"

    by Stalkeye