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David Slade to make a sequel to Fox's DAREDEVIL?
Hey folks, Harry here...
I liked Ben Affleck as Matt Murdock in the original DAREDEVIL film from Fox. I was less enthused about Jennifer Garner's Elektra and Michael Clarke Duncan's Kingpin... and the overall theatrical cut which was brutalized by Fox management, and the director's cut DVD actually shows a far better effort with DAREDEVIL - even if - casting decisions did cripple the film quite a bit, and some costume design issues - especially with Elektra were just woefully handled... I did want it to continue. I didn't feel it was a sink the ship and build anew bad. I just thought they had a lot of ground to improve upon. That said, they pretty much crapped on the best DAREDEVIL storyline that there was to play with - so what really did we have to look forward to?
Well, it looks like Fox is moving ahead with a new DAREDEVIL film with Hard Candy's DAVID SLADE directing. Slade is a hard director to figure, he's been playing footsie with pulp and comic for a while now - being in talks on everything from a Justice League of America film to a science fiction ZORRO property to working on THE SHADOW for Sam Raimi to even talking about helming the latest WOLVERINE that went to Aronofsky.
The word has it that this will not be an origin story, but be a continuation of the character, albeit most likely recast - personally, I'd like to see Affleck back. The actor I saw in THE TOWN is greatly matured and ready for the real badass stuff that DAREDEVIL can bring us on screen. So now that we don't have a writer attached - or an announced storyline - what would you like to see David Slade do with DAREDEVIL - and who is Matt Murdock?
Feel free to discuss endlessly...
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Shame the film was a dud. But he should have a second lick of the lollipop.
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I think it had a lot to do with Jennifer Garner
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March 15, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST
Are there ANY Marvel properties that are NOT in some type of film development?
by gruntybear
I mean, come - the fuck - on. No more superhero movies. New fricken' IP's, Hollywood. New IP's.
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He's an acclaimed director and he's starring in an upcoming Malick movie. Fuck Daredevil.
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So he had a soft spot for the movie.... he wanted to like it
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Is a million times better than what was released in the theaters. It's actually pretty shocking. Oh well. I look forward to a sequel. I liked Ben Afflek in the role. I like Ben Aflleck in most things. He's fun to watch even if he isn't the greatest actor ever.
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As his butt buddy Kevin Smith
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Hes too old, presently
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And a red devil tail.
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March 15, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST
Harry, if you don't want them to reboot you have ZERO respect for the character.
by IndustryKiller!
that movie was garbage, and didn't capture a single fucking thing intrinsic to Daredevil or any of the surrounding characters. nothing. And that's objective fact. Harry you cannot keep saying you are a fan of something and then constantly advocate measures that hurt the property. Those two things are diametrically opposed.
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There's your sequel name, fuckers.
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March 15, 2011, 6:41 p.m. CST
Matt Damon... fucker looks like Matt Murdoch
by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview
That's all I got. Oh yeah... do the Born Again storyline but... keep Miller far, far, far away from the set!
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The Frank Miller original. Watch Daredevil lose it and then get it back. And then fight Ninjas.
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All other sources, including 20th Century Fox, are calling this a reboot with no connection to the Affleck original. Pay attention, Harry.
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Well done, keep it up!
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Daredevil comics were my fav as a kid. The movie had nothing about it that reminded me of them.
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and affleck probably would do a good job in the role without FOX fucking up everything...let him direct himself in the flick. that would be cool.
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March 15, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST
This is all about keeping the character out of Disney's little mitts...
by WriteForTheEdit
...and nothing else. Let's all watch it bomb like the new FF "reboot."
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I always said I'd love to see Guy Pearce as MM/DD. I think he would bring a great gravitas to the MM scenes and thing he has a better frame to fill the DD suit. I wasn't a huge fan of affleck, didnt think he looked, felt or sounded right as the man without fear. As for the bad guy? Who knows. i loved the DD vs Punisher run a few years back. But that cant happen as castle is back at Marvel.
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reboot it please.
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Get rid of Superhero movies and I'll make DAMN SURE wherever YOU like is next. No one is forcing you to watch them or even comment on them. That being said, I wouldn't trust Fox with an ice cream cone...
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Of course I know nothing about the character and never gave a shit what they did with him to begin with. That may have something to do with my zero expectations approach and the resulting "Hey, at least it wasn't Batman & Robin" response. Give Pancake Head another shot at it. He can definitely do better and his performance was far from the worst problem the first film had to overcome (much like Thomas Jane and The Punisher).
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Time for bed...
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After HARD CANDY, he seems intent on taking the road to hackery.
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March 15, 2011, 6:55 p.m. CST
i know its cooler these days to say things suck, but...w
by SupermanIsMyGod
I saw DD 6x in theatres, bought the DVD, the directors cut DVD, and then the director cut blu. I love the flick. Thought Ben did a great job, thought his interplay with Foggy Favs was superb, loved Farrell (who may still be picking pieces of the scenery from his teeth) , and thought Duncan did as well as he could have...the problem with the Kingpin is he looks like a fat guy, but he's solid muscle, like an offensive lineman. I don't think Joe Thomas of the Browns can act, so you do what you can with the casting. DD is one of my 4 favorite comic characters (Supes, Cap, GL) and instead of looking for things to shit on, I looked for things to love and found plenty. Is it perfect? Dark Knight quality? Of course not. But I'm a huge fan who owns all the Miller/Bendis/Brubaker work plus plenty of others, and ill defend it to the death.
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March 15, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST
elijah17 - yeah, 39 is too damn old to play a hero unless you're in a wheelchair
by TheKiller7
too old alright
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There was a reason they said that many years ago
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not really big draws no matter how close they get to the comics.
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Something about him screams "Lawyer!".
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I say in this day and age that if after the first attempt at making a comic film/movie stinks, you just abandon the thing and quit flogging the horse.
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...and yes, I am serious.
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DD and Punisher Team-Up movie - real nasty possibilities :)
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I wouldn't say I hated Daredevil because it was better than Fantastic Four and Batman & Robin, but it was still very disappointing. I know Nolan's approach to Batman gets thrown around a lot, but Daredevil is something I'd really like to see get that treatment. Maybe not so much the realism, but definitely the grittiness. Give me an R-rated Daredevil.
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With the playground fight? And the Evanescence song? I liked Colin Farrell a lot, and I think Affleck could do a good job as Daredevil, but I thought this was one of the most condescending pieces of terrible writing ever produced. Elektra doesn't realize something's up when the blind guy can take the ninja in a fight, and indeed starts one in the middle of a see-saw? What's a private attorney doing as a prosecutor in a criminal case? What's Daredevil doing killing people? Mark Stephen Johnson clearly knows the material and cares about it, and this and Ghost Rider demonstrate that caring about the material isn't enough. You need to know what you're doing and treat the audience like grownups.
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March 15, 2011, 7:07 p.m. CST
Daredevil was really good and the theatrical was superior.
by Mahaloth
I know. My wife and I adore the original theatrical cut, but disliked the director version. One of my favorite superhero movies. Better than Spiderman 1 and 3 and better than Batman Begins.
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March 15, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST
tikidonkeypunch has yet to see HOWARD THE DUCK - worse Marvel movie EVER
by TheKiller7
fact
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Affleck was decent, Jennifer Garner was hot, Ferrell was a steal-stealer, Duncan was serviceable, Favreau was comic relief, and Pantoliano was fabulous. The DC was far and away better, though.<p>I think fans of the movie and people who hated the movie can agree that "Daredevil" was "Citizen Kane" compared to the steaming pile of crap that was "Elektra."
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As one of my favorite superheroes they should ask Brian Michael Bendis to write the new film. The last daredevil comics are a blast. But I guess too mature for a big budget film. Paul Bettany could be a good choice for the part. http://www.entertainmentwallpaper.com/download/30019909/
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When I was a kid, Daredevil was by far my favorite Marvel character (just a nick ahead of Wolverine and The Punisher). The idea of having a blind superhero was kind of brilliant in its own way.<br /> <br /> That said, let's just forget about Fox's DD and do a new redux. In fact, since Punisher/Daredevil crossovers were alway a big part of both titles, I think I'd like to see T.P. as a villain in the next Daredevil movie. It would be cool if they reboot both franchises by having the Punisher show up as a villain in the first DD flick then eventually get his own movie.<br /> <br /> If this is just a continuation of the first film, it'll be crap like "Punisher: War Zone".
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The original film - both the theatrical and director's cuts - were inferior to Frank Miller's "Born Again" storyline which would've been the no-brainer to adapt for a theatrical film, sans Captain America's and Thor's cameos. Mark Steven Johnson apparently thought he could write a better story but alas, he could not. I guess Fox is worried about the character rights reverting back to Marvel Films and thus they are going to make this film to prevent the transfer...probably straight to video.
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C'mon. Lets cast someone born in the last 2 decades
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Even though HTD was crap, as a child I was entertained by it. Elektra was just BAD.
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March 15, 2011, 7:15 p.m. CST
Actually, "the best DAREDEVIL storyline" has yet to be adapted.
by LoneGun
It's called BORN AGAIN, written by Frank Miller and illustrated by the amazing David Mazzucchelli. Issues #227-#233. That was the most phenomenal DAREDEVIL ever and one of the best stories Marvel ever published. According to Wikipedia, "The first issue of this storyline was voted 11th greatest Marvel Comic of all time by the fans in 2001." Personally, I welcome the news of David Slade taking a crack at Daredevil, one of my favorite comic book crime fighters.
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I can think of one... Abslom Daak. However, Panini might actually own that character following Marvel UK selling off "Doctor Who Monthly" and other titles to Panini during Marvel's bankruptcy a decade plus ago...
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Anyone involved in that craptacular film needs to be dragged into to streets and shot with a cannon.
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i wanted daredevil done by marvel studios but nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Is Michael C Hall fully cancer free or did he relapse? He'd also have to change his speech pattern a bit. Dodge seems to have made him speak deeper in their latest commercials. I'm also a big fan of Matt Bomer; he would've made for a great grad student Peter Parker [FFS, he looks like Nick Hammond!] had Sony opted to not reboot Spidey back into high school...
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Hi, Harry. Good to know you are finally strong enough to start shitting on the dvd section. Once again, dear sir, fuck you very much!
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And they are indeed good, not just a rosy memory of my younger years. The problem with the Afflick DD (whichever cut you choose) was that it tried to be slick, fantastical kung-fu, post-Matrix shit. Which, put the carriage is front of the horse. DD's strength is that it's hard-boiled crime noir with some kung-fu thrown in, not the other way around. If the writer/director of the reboot understand this, they'll probably make good movie. If the sentence that begins this paragraph is mysterious to them, don't bother. Period.
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Catwoman was worse
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I know Disney already paid four billion for Marvel. But I wish they'd just go ahead and buy the movie rights to Spider-Man, X-Men, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, and Ghost Rider. It seems so odd that several of Marvel's most popular characters aren't at Marvel.
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March 15, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST
FATSO HARRY HAD SEX WITH DAREDEVIL AS HIS ORIGINAL REVIEW PROVES
by Nabster
And it was a rotten piece of shit. In fact, all of AICN basically had sex with Daredevil. They simply jizzed themselves in enjoyment, calling it the Unforgiven of superhero films. Even now Fatso Harry is defending this repulsive, evil, abortion of a film. Even a horrible tramp like Tara Reid said and I quote, " Daredevil was like pissing after vd." For godsake Harry fats, even a shameful syphalitic villain like Tara Reid has better taste than you!
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he needs a better script, and a director with a better vision of what a Daredevil movie should be. No one was let down more by the first movie, than Ben.
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Yeah, Daredevil doesn't need a reboot, but Spider-Man sure as hell does! Sometimes I can't believe the shit I read on this site. Daredevil sucked bovine ass. If any Marvel property needs a reboot, IT WOULD TOTALLY BE DAREDEVIL!!! Are you kidding me? Seriously! This is coming from a guy who thinks that reboot is a four letter word! I hate all this reboot shit. But Daredevil? Yeah, reboot city baby. Give me a Daredevil that looks and feels like The French Connection. Give me a Kingpin that looks like he does in Amazing Spider-Man #84 (for instance). Give me some art direction that puts Daredevil in NYC, not a Vegas version of the greatest city on Earth. Just don't give me something totally stupid involving the great Daredevil ever again.
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friggin amazing.
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March 15, 2011, 7:48 p.m. CST
I'd like to see Affleck come back, but the original has aged terribly.
by cinemixtape.com
Both versions are nigh unwatchable in 2011 because of a number of issues: the bevy of shitty alternative rock songs, the awful CGI, the innumerable bad performances and cringe-inducing pieces of dialogue, etc. If they want to do this right, they should bring back Affleck but make damn near everything else around him drastically different. If they're not going to bring him back, Bradley Cooper would be a good choice (assuming Wahlberg gets the role of Nathan Drake in "Uncharted). Bradley Cooper IS Nathan Drake, IMO.
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I was just about to agree with you till you changed horses er... ducks...to cats... HOWARD THE DUCK was an amazing, subversive comic book and a far more interesting character than CATWOMAN, who's at least already had a couple of less-than-risible screen incarnations. My young mind was freaked that they were going to make a movie of HTD - I was expecting a surreal, halfway-adult satire. But what we got wasn't a cigar-chomping Tom Waitsy duck in a crumpled suit. What we got was a midget in a nasty-looking duck suit and a fucking George Dubya bomber jacket and more shitty perms and dancing paedos than you can wave a Europe CD at. Ironically, performance capture could now give us a great HOWARD but Lucas so royally fucked it then salted-the-earth that no-one will ever be able to touch it again. Unlike Catwoman, who's just about to crop up in TDKR. The DAREDEVIL movie was okay-ish, but it could have been a whole lot better. Worst for me was the fact that massive-headed Affleck looked such a numpty in the skin-tight leathers they had to dial the colour and lighting way down to quell the waves of hilarity. It's a pretty stupid costume on screen anyway, because it's so basic and red as a dog's cock. They need to find some way around that.
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And honestly, I wasn't shocked.
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Just give to him. Affleck wants nothing to do with it now.
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keep affleck away.
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I really liked the 1st one and when it was released wished they jumped on seaquels more quickly. Thought Affleck did a good job in it too, but isn't he too old now?
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Daredevil should look like a Ginger acrobat. 'cause that's what he is. Kingpin should look like a gigantic fat white guy, 'cause that's what he is. Elektra should look like a black haired Greek lady 'cause that's what she is. But they'll probably just cast Yao Ming as Stilt-man, Charlie Sheen as Electro, and Betty White as The Vulture. The Hand will be played by a buncha CGI'd Mike Myers' running around tripping over stuff.
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March 15, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST
Hey, let's dial it back some guys...
by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview
...DD came out in 2002, before the first Spider-Man movie back when all we had for superhero movies was Blade and the bad smell left on Batman by Schumacher. At the time, I liked it, figuring "oh well, that's the best we'll get from Hollywood." Sure today, it doesn't hold up, neither does the Raimi Spider-Man, though SM2 is still entertaining. Let's hold out some hope for the reboot. BTW: Nothing could ever be worse than Howard the Duck... that's when we all should've gotten clued in that Lucas was an empty sweatshirt-and-jeans combo.
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And we as comic book fans would watch... Problem is Studio execs need to realize not every comic is kid freaking friendly people die. in these comics rather grisily and violently... It's not all family fun time! Marvel in there lifetime needs to do one, just one of them justice!
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I wouldn't go for a hard R but this might the role he was meant for.
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March 15, 2011, 9:03 p.m. CST
harryknowlesnonexistentinceptionreview - Lucas was merely the PRODUCER of Howard the Duck
by TheKiller7
He needs only to be blamed for making it happen. But all the fault and blame goes to the director and screenplay writer, Willard Huyck & Gloria Katz
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March 15, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST
Re: Blade 2002 harryknowlesnonexistentinceptionreview
by Norman Colson
Blade came out of left field and was a cult classic. still is matter of fact the second topped the first and for once a rated r comic book movie kicked ass!!! I loved it. damn shame i slept on the first one when it came out, wtf was I doing!???
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Sorry bud but X-men, and Spiderman came out before Daredevil.
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March 15, 2011, 9:21 p.m. CST
If Slade has to consider a Daredevil storyline, either he should look at "Born Again", "Guardian Devil", or Bendis' outing Daredevil
by MrMysteryGuest
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At SDCC the summer before it came out, the audience was digging the teaser footage. The following summer, MSJ was at Comic Con plugging Ghost Rider and they opened the floor up for questions. This one kid stands up and says, "I have a question for Mark Steven Johnson?" ""Yeah?" Said the director. "About 'Daredevil...'" "yeah?" "What the fuck, man? I mean, seriously, what the fuck?" Great moment from the nerd to the self proclaimed nerd at the panel. MSJ genuinely had no answer. As for the theatrical cut vs the DC--the theatrical cut was a turd inside some Wonder Bread. The DC was that same turd but with whole grain bread, some sprouts, some gourmet cheese, dijon mustard...looks pretty good! But in the end, it's still a shit sandwich.
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March 15, 2011, 9:26 p.m. CST
REDUX!!! USE THE 1ST HALF WHEN HE WAS A KID THEN REMAKE THE REST
by zenith1226
THEN WITH HIM IN COLLEGE AND MEET AND LOVE ELEKTRA...NEW TO THE STREETS DAREDEVIL COSTING KINGPIN $$....INTRODUCE THE ROSE...TAKE OUT SMALL VILLIANS LIKE THE OWL AND THE JESTER...BRING IN ROSE AS FULL VILLIAN IN SEQUEL...AND KINGPIN IN 3RD MOVIE WITH VANESSA'S DESTRUCTION...
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because while I wouldn't mind Ben Affleck back (he played the role well) I thought that his costume was very well designed, and logical (it looked like leather to me, which makes a lot more sense, besides being more 'realistic,' than all the rubber suits in vogue at the moment. I also didn't mind the Michael Duncan Clarke-version of Kingpin, though perhaps he could have been made even more massive. Though I get the feel that the director was going for with him. A flawed film, though a worthwhile effort. David Slade, I am not so sure about. To me he doesn't necessarily rise any higher than the material he has to work with. In other words: You give him shite, you get shite back.
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Sweet!
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30 Days of Night, I'll see it. I'm liking the suggestion of Guy Pearce for the role of Matt Murdock. Maybe a bit too much. Even his look in some films is pretty damn close to what I picture Murdock in a realistic environment... well, minus the blindness. Also have to say that I didn't hate MCD's Kingpin. It would have worked better if he'd been an actual kingpin of crime and not some shitty mogul that may or may not have had criminal connections. More badass crime lord, less rap mogul thuggery, I guess is how I'd sum it up. Sadly with this reboot, we're certain to get another origin story shoved down our throats. Maybe this time they won't erase the fact that Stick trained Daredevil.
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It was a fine effort. Affleck,Duncan,and even Garner/Mrs. Affleck all need to come back and just make this an awesome sequel.
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we don't need to go over the origin story again. Even if they continue the story, the film will be recast and stylistically rebooted, so it's the best of both worlds. I thought the first movie was pretty decent for its time. I agree that Affleck was fine - some of his scenes were downright chilling. It was Garner and Duncan that were miscast (and no, not just because he's black). But yeah, I think they need to do a full-on crime flick. I know everyone's trying to rip off Dark Knight, but I think Daredevil would benefit from that approach - mixing criminal bad guys and supervillains. Frankly, I'm less interested in ninjas and the Hand. Perhaps do Bendis' "King of Hell's Kitchen" storyline. Have it be about Murdock losing his mind trying to clean up the streets, going for the power grab. Or do the storyline about being outed, or going to jail. There's so many to choose from, especially from the Bendis and Brubaker runs. Whatever you do, make Ben Urich a central character. Give him some pain. No Elektra, but maybe a real Kingpin this time, but not necessarily the main villain.
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March 15, 2011, 10:22 p.m. CST
If they can make a sequel or whatever there doing with Ghost Rider
by Phategod100
WTF not? right.
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Great post BTW. <BR><BR> I personally think they should go batshit crazy , have an older grizzled DD, R rated with shit loads of inteligent bloody violence . Noir as fuck,the dark grey and red costume, and cast a totally unexpected actor in the role like Ron Purlman , and do a "Dark Knight Returns" kind of fuck fest on the senses. <BR><BR> Maybe they could do something like this as a T.V show (On AMC) , like a cross between "The Wire", and Nolans Batman. As long as its crime noir and adult, you can't go wrong.
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With spelling this shit Harry should give me a job on AICN ...
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just saying
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Just make this please.
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Worst Best 2 minutes in film history -- Search youtube -- Lea Thompson in Panties :)
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I'd love to see Born Again, Guardian Devil or any of the Brian Michael Bendis & Alex Maleev saga.
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March 15, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST
I'm really, really pleased with this news. I liked a lot of the Daredevil movie....
by moonlightdrive
Even though I'm not really a fan of Affleck. Could have done without Garner though as I don't like her and don't want her character, Elektra in it anyway. Just stick to Daredevil. I really like the Daredevil character. Great news! Hope it continues to fruition.
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Nope, Daredevil came out in 2003. Nearly a year after Spider-Man.
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...it's gonna be a reboot and we all know it. Also, the director's cut fucking sucked and kind of ruined the movie by making Foggy Nelson into a joke of a lawyer, inserting a painful "comedic" appearance by Coolio, and making it so that we literally see EVERY SINGLE MINUTE that Matt spends with Elektra - which means that one of the "only two people" he ever loved was someone he knew for a sum total of about 45 minutes. Christ, at least in the t-cut they get some off-screen time together.
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Then, personally, I'm a fan of Kevin Smith's Guardian Devil run. It seemed to me to have a cinematic scope already anyway, and had a lot of the key characters from the daredevil universe that would translate well to film...
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March 15, 2011, 11:55 p.m. CST
Hopefully this never happens and Marvel gets a crack at it
by King_of_all_Squares
Slade is a hack, Fox sucks at genre film-making and there is no way in hell that anybody at that studio "gets" Daredevil. As a twenty year daredevil reader here's what I'd need to get my ass back in a seat: 1) Michael C. Hall as DD. Michael Beihn as Bullseye. Lance Henriksen as Stick. Bring back Michael Clarke Duncan but tell him to act less like a dumb Mob Boss and more like a calculating Bond Villain. 2) Good fight choreagraphy. No shaky cam and no wire-fu. I just want to see DD kick the shit outta crime ala vintage Seagal. 3) No more bleach bypass, metallic filter crap. Shoot NY like Friedkin and Aronofsky shot NY or like Nolan shot Chicago. Like a real fucking place. 4) Do the villains right. No more flat 1-dimesnional cartoon characters. 5)Write a god-damned script worthy of the best work by Miller, Bendis, Brubaker and Nocenti. Those old funny books have got character and tragedy and drama and amazing fucking ninja fight sequences. People die, shit changes forever and Matt usually ends up the worse for it. Treat us like grown ups, don't give us dumbed down crap.
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I had zero problems with DAREDEVIL. It was a good, gritty and dirty little comic movie where the characters lived in a real crime infested world, much like Nolans BATMAN-not a cartoon world ala X-Men and such. I would love to see Affleck reprise his role. THey have NOTHING to apologize for on that flick. It stands up by itself.
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.....and George Lucas writes the most eloquent dialog.
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but then again i like jennifer as anything shes in
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from Variety, the original source of this news: "Fox has been looking to redevelop the character since, but people close to the project say it's not a reboot per se -- more a continuation of the "Daredevil" saga." all the other sites are assuming reboot. So back off, asshats.
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That is a friggen great idea! As well as fighting ninjas! If it is a reboot, it has to start with a wild bar room brawl like in the first one, but with some good action direction instead. The spirit of the first one was there, but it lacked execution. I have to agree with Harry when he said the first film crapped on the best story line DD had going for it. But if it is a sequel, I'd really like to see Bulls eye come back and have the devil kick his ass in the boxing ring where his dad made his last stand.
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....red lingerie gown/bustier from the original comic.
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Thought you were saying David Spade was going to make a Daredevil movie!
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get the kid who plays green arrow and put it on the cw
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Honestly.. I am excited by the IDEA of a sequel.. Affleck is a BETTER actor than he's given credit for.. BUT.. and this is a BIG but.. he has to have a good and strong director to pull him in. As for how well the first film went with the comics.. can't say I know really.. but I do agree with SOME of the points.. about the over CG.. and over wirefu.. just make DD brutal.. and.. HELL on.. well leather boots, since he doesn't have wheels. I never really saw DD as that much a finesser.. but just flat out BRUTAL.. the last fight actually I enjoyed quite a bit. BUT.. the one thing they did try to do.. was make this more an accessible almost. chick flick kind of super hero movie.. which.. worked in parts, but.. not others.. and over all didn't really mesh as well with the whole super hero thing. I can only say I've read ONE complete run of DD and I KNOW the fanboy/tb'er hate on for Kevin Smith. but I thought his run Guardian Devil would be an excellent starting off point.. if not an adaptation.. just that tone and style. Its very gritty.. and dirty.. and well obviously very R-rated.. somethine about DD was just too light and fluffy.. the whole fight in the park? was cute. but.. is cute what we're looking for in a super hero movie?
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The back to back abortions that Fox slapped the Fantastic Four name on. Just sayin.
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the saddest attempt at trolling on the interweb
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Period. They need to do Born Again.
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Mel Gibson as Mysterio.
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Let's face it. Guardian Devil is one of the best stories out there.
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1. Script. No punch at the end. 2. Fox interference. 3. BMB said it himself. Too much crammed into one film.
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I kinda liked the Daredevil movie. Never understood the hate for it, but I was 12 years old. I mean...I was a child so forgive me Lord for loving it.
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Anyone who likes that insult to humankind should consider themselves to be vile hateful human beings. After watching Daredevil an angry crowd in India, was so repulsed and traumatized by what they witnessed that they burned down the theater in a frenzied rage. They also gladly killed every white person in sight for revenge against Ben Affleck.
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Director's Cut was an improvement and Harry's right about the casting. Let Slade and Affleck have a sit-down with producers and see what pans out.
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March 16, 2011, 5:28 a.m. CST
Since they insist on getting foreigners to play superheroes
by noiretblanc
they'll probably get Jude Law.
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March 16, 2011, 6:01 a.m. CST
Affleck was baddass as DD i wouldn't mind seeing him return.
by NorthTronic
bullseye was whack though, elektra didn't even watch it......
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They have the chance to start from scratch! And you want them to get Affleck who was nothing like Matt Murchoch. Think of all the great people that could play the character,that looks like the character. And you choose fucking Affleck? Guys like you deserve bad movies.
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There's no way to make an engaging movie about a blind acrobat ninja lawyer who dresses like satan. It's going to be stupid no matter what. It's like somebody took Batman and added a bunch of silly gimmicks to the character but couldn't think of anything for those gimmicks to add to the story.
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March 16, 2011, 6:28 a.m. CST
Paul Bettnay would be interesting. Creepy/Cold Blind guy
by chien_sale
He would be like a supernatural being with the shades on.
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And i must admit the rated R cut was far superior (give it a chance!). I must admit that i blindly purchased Elektra due to having a crush on Jennifer Garner at the time. I promptly turned it off once she and Typhoid Mary kissed (figuring the movie wouldn't get much better). I am happy with that choice.
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I think Damon and Wahlberg look more like Daredevil, but Affleck was OK and I would be cool with him back.
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Would like to see "Frank Miller" Resurrection storyline.
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starring joseph gordon levitt.
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No Affleck. He was miscast but more importantly that movie sucked. SUCKED. The only good thing about it was Bullseye. Recall the playground courting scene between Elektra and Matt Murdock. TERRIBLE. "Gritty" and "realistic" are usually not the way to go with superhero movies, but with Daredevil, you gotta.You cannot have him jumping around like Spider-Man in a movie.
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He's a terrible, TERRIBLE actor, but he was exceptionally terrible in DD. It was a ridiculous, awful film from start to finish... due largely in part to the horrendous cast. Thing is, though, that DD *could* make a great movie or even a cable tv show or something. With the right cast, good writers, and competent director.
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Michael C. Hall for Matt Murdock. That dude has a serious jawline that would look awesome in that horned, red mask. Plus he is already in pretty good shape. Three months under the tutelage of the guy who whips Jackman into shape for Wolverine and you are all set. Besides, with only a dozen or so episodes a season for doing Dexter, he has plenty of free time. His Cancer's in remission, right? Personally, I liked MCD as the Kingpin. He had the real physical presence to pull it off. Who cares if he wasn't white. I believe one of his suit's was.
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March 16, 2011, 8:55 a.m. CST
Liked the Director's Cut. And Affleck. I'm sure they'll reboot though.
by Mr Nicholas
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March 16, 2011, 9:05 a.m. CST
Sadly, I think a reboot is the only way to go. Affleck has stated many times he doesn't want to play DareDevil again...
by ChickenStu
...and apparently Jason Statham is desperate to play the part.
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and I'm with Harry, the film had a ton of problems but wasn't as horrible as Hulk or GR. The director's cut proved that the film COULD HAVE worked, it just didn't. Affleck and Favreau were right for their roles, and I think Affleck would do a good job coming back as an older, more beaten down Murdock. Let him direct and give it another go.
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Colin Farell was great as Bullseye, so much that marvel writers have since been inspired by his portrayal. I'd like Affleck to reprise the role.
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Guy Pierce would be great as DD, and Jason Stathom is Bullsey.
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and maybe Seth Rogen as Foggy too !
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electra of course
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I always pictured Guy's chiseled jaw underneath DD's cowl and I don't know why Marvel/Fox hasn't proceeded with a continuation of this character's franchise. (I realize that Guy is probably too old for the role now.) For an unknown to the public character, it opened at #1 and stayed there for 2 weeks back in Feb 03. It was profitable (more so than "Hulk") and they got a double dip out of us with the Director's Cut. Yet the PTB made sequels to Fantastic Four, Hulk and Ghost Rider. Daredevil was the gritty film that I wanted Spider-Man to be and I want to see more!
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I'd rather they did a Dark Knight Returns (comic not movie), have Afleck back as an older, worn out Daredevil doing it "just one more time" kinda scenrio. Now that would be cool.
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would Ellen Pompeo reprise her role Karen Page from the first movie to play a heroin addicted, porn star? She would be perfect for the role now because she looks like a heroin addict half the time.
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March 16, 2011, 10:56 a.m. CST
they made Colin Farrel look like a pissed off Andre Ahgassi.
by Datascream
It's true.
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March 16, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST
Yes, Guy Pearce would be awesome, but he already turned it down.
by johnnybronto
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/02/guy_pearce_on_getting_offered.html
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Affleck was totally wrong as Daredevil and the majority at the time reflected that same opinion. Now Affleck has reinvented himself as a filmmaker and now all of a sudden people are saying he was a good Daredevil. He was wrong then and he'd be wrong now. Recast!
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March 16, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST
Charlie Sheen as Murdock, Britney Spears as Electra, Pee Wee Herman as King Pin!!
by Arkhaminmate001
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That could be a fun comic.
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was more hot lesbian action and anal sex. Listen up Hollywood, nugget of gold here.
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As far as origin/first movies go. The problem with Kingpin, as supermanismyguy states, is his look, not the actor. I just don't see any way to do justice to Kingpin without CGI. I wish the second movie had come out right away, adapting a Miller story with the Sin City look - now, thanks to Sin City, 300, The Spirit, etc., it's been done to death, but that pulp/noir feel fits this character. Jennifer Garner was miscast as Electra, but Farrell was spot on, as was Fogy Nelson. I love this character and would love to see a studio do right by this, but I'd rather get nothing instead of a midling effort. Affleck looked - at least to me - perfect as DD.
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March 16, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST
I never got the hate for the first movie. It's a solid Comic Book Flick.
by Mitch
The Director's Cut is even better.
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Director's Cut is the only one worth watching... Still has weak points but waaaayyyy better than the theatrical cut....
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Even before the 1st Daredevil movie, I would have thought he was perfect casting for that part. I found Affleck to be more likeable in that movie, than in any other I'd seen him in. Not perfect casting, but he was a better match than say Tobey was for Spiderman.. It's never going to be Affleck again though, as he's bitched about how playing the role was a source of personal humiliation for him, and his wife certainly didn't enjoy the Elektra movie..(Though we can all sympathise with that sentiment.) On Dark Horizons they're saying it could be the Born Again story being adapted. I really hope so, as I think that's probably the best character arc on a marvel superhero that's ever been done, and could make for a fantastic movie. I just wish the rights had reverted to Marvel as this would be one movie, where a guest appearance by Cap, and cameos by Thor & Iron Man would be fully justified as they all appear in the original story. As for the reboot issue, I think it could be similar to what they did with Hulk. i.e Picking up after the origin, roughly where the original left off without it being a sequel as such. (i.e Different cast.) Thus Kingpin would know DD's identity, and the story could naturally follow on from that..
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Things are really skewing much younger these days I guess. When I was growing up, we liked our heroes with some age; with a little gravitas. Harrison Ford, Eastwood, whoever the hell was Bond at any given time, these guys were "older" and it worked great. Apparently now we need somebody born in the last two decades for DD? A teenager? Like Spiderman? Peter Parkers' young age is what makes him unique amongst most super heroes. Do we need to scale him back to age seven now? Sigh, sorry just bitching. And very depressed...
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Nuff said!
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Why start with a story where Daredevil barely appears? Born Again should be the third film. Have the second film end with Karen Page selling Murdock out. Otherwise there's no emotional weight to it.
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Any time Harry slobbers over something like this, which, is a pretty lame piece of news anyway, you can pretty much rest assured that it'll turn into a steaming pile of crap. Dear God, where is Quint when we need him?
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Affleck won't do it. He's an arrogant cunt now. Aaron Eckhert could do it. Thomas Jane!
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This'll be an unpopular point of view, but this is the sequel I've been hoping for. Affleck was ideal casting - very much the Matt Murdock from the comics, and the movie portrayed the darker, grittier side of the superhero world, as shown in the comics. (Or as near as you can get when the lead character is blind and has radar senses as a special power). I didn't think that the film would've made much impact at the box office, after all, Daredevil isn't one of the top tier comicbook characters -he's not a Spider-Man, a Superman or a Batman. He's a second level character with a niche audience, and I'm not saying the film didn't have it's faults - the whole handling of Elektra for example, but the directors cut WAS a marked improvement on the theatrical cut. I'm glad they're not going the reboot route, and hope they'll cast Affleck again - I for one would love to see what he could do in the role about five years on, and his age shouldn't be a barrier.
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Does that mean the Garner Elektra movie exists in the same universe. How can we erase this mistake?
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You should try using Cottonelle brand flushable wipes instead of just toilet paper. It gets your ass nice and clean without having to wipe for 5 hours.
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March 16, 2011, 9:13 p.m. CST
Fox will castrate this movie again but my casting choices
by BabyJesus
I like to see Ryan Gosling as Matt Murdock. Will settle on studio's choice of Garrett Hedlund. No Matthew Fox! Sorry Lost fans. Get over yourselves with this trendy pick. Please let this film be somewhat an attempt at gritty
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Jk...but they will seriously go after someone younger to draw in the young audience.
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He was wrong for Superman. Pales in comparison to Christopher Reeve and Tom Welling. However he might be right for Daredevil, a less demanding role.
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March 16, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST
I don't really understand why people prefer the director's cut
by Jaster
It was a bunch of bullshit. Did anyone really require an extra 40 minutes to explain the line "Word on the street is that Wilson Fisk is the Kingpin."? Yeah, me neither. Yet we are treated to many really awkward and unfunny scenes of Coolio acting horribly and pretending to be stoned. Then we have Matt going into an apartment and immediately feeling something on a desk and not only knowing it was recent, but somehow knowing it has something to do with the girl's death. Then there is the nigh-unforgivable subtraction of the walk down the street for Matt and Elektra that, you know, actually had them interacting before they decided they were in love. And of course the deletion of the fucking SEX SCENE! Yes, I agree that the fights were a bit more hardcore, and I appreciated that. But we have to slog through so much bullshit to get there that it's not worth it. Not to mention the fact it's just a shit movie from opening shot to end credits. I was literally EMBARRASSED watching it at the theater, that's how fucking bad it was.
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Born Again worked because it was the first time a villain learned what was the identity of the hero and used it to attack him. If you do this now without a build up, remember in the last DD movie, Kingpin and DD were new to another, then it comes off an underwhelming and cheap. It's like Batman Forever and every super-hero films that's ever been done about someone finding the super-hero identity. Also there's no emotional pull as Born Again occured years and years of DD and Kingpin fighting one another and then bang Kingpin learn of the identity of DD and procedes to destroy him. I say do a Trilogy and in the last movie you do Born Again.
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March 16, 2011, 11:03 p.m. CST
Charlie Sheen as Murdock, Britney Spears as Electra, Pee Wee Herman as King Pin!!
by crazybubba
HILARIOUS! Well played arkhaminmate001 well played
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March 16, 2011, 11:24 p.m. CST
I'm unsure who I'd like to play Murdock, but two directors
by mr.underwater
I'd like to see rather than Slade are: Walter Hill William Friedkin No diss on Slade because I'm not terribly familiar with him. but I am familiar with Hill and Friedkin and the thought of either of them doing a Daredevil movie makes my imagination reel in the best possible way.
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While not great the 1st movie was MUCH better than people give it credit for (especially the director's cut).
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Let's be honest guys.... This was a shitty movie
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March 17, 2011, 2:43 a.m. CST
Ben Affleck's head was soo huge they had to photoshop it smaller in the posters!
by CeejayNightwing
Worst looking person in a costume since Michael Keaton in his ill fitting Batman costume with HUGE mask from the first Burton flick. Ben Affleck's Daredevil was pathetic, his court scenes were a joke, his fight scenes ridiculous and the movie made a mockery of Bullseye and Kingpin with the worst casting ever for villains. Jenniffer Garner was the only good thing in that movie and her spin-off Elektra movie still sucked! Reboot this entire thing and forget this disaster ever happened!
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March 17, 2011, 2:52 a.m. CST
How do you get past the playgroud fight in this crappy film?
by CeejayNightwing
Honestly, stupidest scene ever in a comic flick. Broad daylight, Woman fighting a Blind guy in full view of passers by and even an audience of children! Somersaults, Kung Fu, acrobatics etc and NOBODY SAYS SHIT AFTERWARDS!!!!! Only dumb-ass blind fanboys can let things like that slide and still call this film "Good". And what's with the killing of criminals that he couldn't be bothered to get behind bars in a court of law by performing a decent act as a prosecutor? Worse, he even leaves his initials in petrol and fire to let the cops know he killed the guy! LOL!!!! Reboot this shite PLEEEEEASE!!
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Blind people can still comb their own hair properly, it aint rocket science! Ben Affleck's MM looked like he still couldn't find the only comb he owns around the house!
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March 17, 2011, 4:25 a.m. CST
The Dalai Lama said Daredevil was worse than the Chinese occupation
by Nabster
He also said and I quote, " This Daredevil is some rotten bullshit." Apparently it was the first time in his life he cursed. Thats how putrid and evil he found the movie. He actually pulled out his dong and pissed on the dvd of it. The Dalai Lama also believes anyone who defends this movie is a despicable demented pervert.
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March 17, 2011, 7:51 a.m. CST
Wasn't Slade supposed to write/direct a Deathlok film adaptation?
by Stalkeye
What the hell happened to that project? I always thought the marvploitation character was bad ass.That, and he appeared on the scene way before both terminator and Robocop. His film is lonnnngg overdue.
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I cannot believe you said that. I was a Daredevil reader from the first issue. I've loved Zatoichi for forty years. And it never freakin' occurred to me to see the two of them together. Good one!
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We should start a club on Facebook.
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Make it a tv series and give me John Goodman as Kingpin Jake McDorman as Matt Murdoc Robert Knepper as Bullseye Alexa Davalos as Elektra Emma Caulfield as Typhoid Mary Start with Guardian Devil and work your way through Brubaker's first arc.
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Because Aronofsky has dropped out...wtf!?
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March 17, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST
Matt damon would've made a far better Murdock / Daredevil.
by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder
Everybody knows that he's the brains AND the talent of that duo. Besides, he even LOOKS like the character. Smallish, Irish - Fuck. What DIDN'T they get wrong in that piece of shit. Fuck - Reeve's "Hellblazer" was more faithful to the book - Even with it's dumbass Holy Hand Grenades and everything else.
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