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"They are coming!" THE LORD OF THE RINGS Extended Edition Blu-Rays!

Nordling here.

At last.


THE LORD OF THE RINGS Extended Edition Blu-Rays are available for pre-order now at Amazon.  No word on the release date, but I'd imagine it's coming any day now.  For me, these are the definitive versions of the film and I held off buying the saga until these came out.  Now that it's definitely a 2011 release, my anticipation for them couldn't be higher.  No word on special features, but I'd imagine all the wonderful docs from the DVD editions would come back.  Here's a pic of the box:

Can't wait.  Whatever day it is, it isn't soon enough.

Nordling, out.

Edited to add: according to the Amazon listing, the special features that were on the original Extended DVDs are included in this set.  That's grand, as those documentaries are masterful and a terrific look inside the making of these films.  I know there's probably an "Ultimate" Edition coming along in a couple of years, with THE HOBBIT films included, but for now, I'll happily buy these.  Some films are worth the double (or even triple) dip.  These are three of those films.

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  • March 7, 2011, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Colour me

    by terrytips


  • March 7, 2011, 5:35 a.m. CST


    by David

    I've stared at the theatrical releases for months; these are well overdue for a marathon, but dammit, I wasn't going to give in on the blatant money-grab. Whatever the date, consider that following Saturday reserved!

  • March 7, 2011, 5:37 a.m. CST

    I'm more excited about Star Wars

    by Righteous Brother

    but I love LOTR too.

  • Even though we did get a warning upfront, it was still just a greedy studio going for a cash grab, Kind of like how lucas will magically restore the orginal cuts of his trilogy and release them on bluray in a few years

  • March 7, 2011, 5:42 a.m. CST

    All over these like a bad rash...

    by Pawprint

    The theatrical cuts are just completely redundant next to these.

  • March 7, 2011, 5:43 a.m. CST

    The extras on these DVDs

    by terrytips

    were definitive, and I have never seen them surpased since. The documentaries were so in depth, and they told a story of passion and dedication that rivalled the film's. Watching Jackson refuse to stop filming the last shot of principle photography was heartbreaking. This material makes these blu-rays worth it alone. I can't wait.

  • March 7, 2011, 5:44 a.m. CST

    what exactly IS a 'limited' extended edition?

    by ZaphodBB

    is it NOT the full extended version we got on DVD a few years back? I'm nervous about this ...

  • March 7, 2011, 5:58 a.m. CST

    limited extended edition probably means

    by Deathpool

    That it'll be in a fancy box with some extras like a Gollum action figure or something, a limited edition of the extended editions.

  • March 7, 2011, 5:59 a.m. CST

    It means that there'll only be a 'limited' amount released..

    by Righteous Brother

    however, like all things limited edition, there'll be plenty for all. It's just a marketing phrase, translation: 'Limited to how many we can sell'

  • March 7, 2011, 6 a.m. CST

    its gonna go back in the new line vault...hurry!! :P

    by Bouncy X

  • March 7, 2011, 6:05 a.m. CST

    that trailer was piggin' horrible

    by Obscura

    So bad and overly american. all they needed was Peter Jackson saying "ok, now they're on bluray, hope you like them." and id be there.

  • March 7, 2011, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Newly-shot scenes?

    by Latauro

    Any confirmation on this? I'm convinced the reason they haven't come out until now is so they can edit in new Bilbo flashback moments with Martin Freeman, so the whole saga ties together just that little bit more. The ravings of a mad man? Possibly, but let's see if I'm right first.

  • March 7, 2011, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Fuck this - i want a Battle LA review

    by barnaby jones

    Make it so !

  • March 7, 2011, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Limited extended edition as in...

    by nobodylistenstodestro

    back into the vault im assuming. When the hobbit gets released on bluray we get a "new" set and dont feel so bad double dipping because this set was limited.

  • March 7, 2011, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Also black friday ftw

    by nobodylistenstodestro

    I got the theatrical releases at 8 bucks on amazon. Could care less about having to buy both now

  • March 7, 2011, 6:39 a.m. CST

    will it have both the theatrical and the extended versions?

    by KilliK

    or only the extended?

  • March 7, 2011, 6:44 a.m. CST

    "Limited" means....

    by Customikey

    "Limited" means that they're pushing out a bare-bones version now, while anicipation for THE HOBBIT is revving up, only to release the super-super-extended-with-all-the-trimmings edition once the advertising machine for THE HOBBIT hits high gear. I see cash-grab, friends. And I usually don't see it. I own how many versions of the SW trilogy(s)?

  • March 7, 2011, 6:54 a.m. CST


    by Smööf

    We all now they are coming, but not when. This story does not change that.

  • March 7, 2011, 6:55 a.m. CST


    by Smööf

  • March 7, 2011, 6:55 a.m. CST

    I'm so over LOTR

    by BacardiRocky

    I've had the EE DVDs since they came out and have only watched them like twice since I got them. I have brand new upconverting DVD player that makes my DVDs look amazing, yet I hardly use it due to Netflix (PS3) and my WDTV Media Player. No need for the BluRay Edition of LOTR for me. Hell, I have a PS3 and don't even own a single BluRay. Netflix and my WDTV have held me down for years now.

  • March 7, 2011, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Can we get deleted scenes this time?

    by D.Vader

    Arwen at Helms Deep, Eowyn fighting in the caves, Faramir seeing Frodo as a Gollum-esque creature, etc etc. All the stuff not edited back into the EE's.

  • March 7, 2011, 7:04 a.m. CST

    "You have my sword....and you have my bow..."

    by Bobo_Vision

    "....and you have my cock.....and you have my ass...."

  • March 7, 2011, 7:10 a.m. CST

    I'll wait for the smell-o-vision versions...

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    Because you know Blu-Ray isn't the last format they'll come up with. I lied. No I won't. The EE DVDs work just fine for me. I was already annoyed when I had to shell out money to switch over from VHS to DVD. I can only imagine the pain you suckers go through when replacing your DVD collection with fancy Blu-Ray versions.

  • March 7, 2011, 7:15 a.m. CST


    by DVaderRIP

    A reason to buy the same product again! Have they grafted yet another ending to ROTK?

  • March 7, 2011, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Want So Bad . . . But Will Have To Pass


    Just started a new "budget diet". That means even the most sweetest candy, if it costs money, is off limits. Damn you, Peter Jackson!

  • March 7, 2011, 7:25 a.m. CST

    i will wait for the 3D blu-ray versions first

    by KilliK didnt see this coming.

  • then re-release in 18 months with additionally accumulated interviews etc... *EYE ROLL* To be fair, I've been waiting to buy until these were available.. I'm not into the double/triple/quadruple dipping running rampant in teh industry.

  • March 7, 2011, 7:34 a.m. CST

    "...and you have my balls... and you have my chode"

    by Larrylongballs

  • March 7, 2011, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Let the bitching commence....

    by Bob

    Seriously, I remember when the Theatricals came out on BD. The amount of pointless complaints from people comparing their cable tv HD copies to the BD release and saying the cable ones were better was absurd. 10 years ago they wouldn't have blinked at the DVD only version.

  • March 7, 2011, 7:36 a.m. CST


    by Hooded Justice

    With the perspective of some years, I can now see that the LOTR trilogy wasn't that great. The first one is the best by far - but it's the law of diminishing returns with the other two. As the series wore on it became flabby, unstructured and top-heavy with CGI. Even at the time, some of the CGI wasn't the best - but a lot of the effects have aged quite badly now.<p>The key problem is that Jackson was given way too much freedom and money. As a film-maker myself, I can say that this always leads to lazy film-making. You need a strong producer to reign you in. I'd go so far as to say that lot of the best moments in movies emerge from restrictions being placed on the director/writer, forcing them to be more inventive and economical. One famous example of this is the yellow barrels in 'Jaws' - used only because the mechanical shark didn't work. But the barrels were way more effective.<p>Unfotunately, as each LOTR film did so well, Jackson was given more and more money to film extra material and add more swooping camera shots of endless, marching CGI orcs etc - to the point that the last forty minutes of Return Of The King is mostly CGI/ effects shots. Jackson thereby broke a Golden rule of film-making: AVOID effects shots unless ABSOLUTELY necessary - and the corollary to this, AVOID using CGI to tell your story unless you ABSOLUTELY have no other choice.<p>But on top of all this, the movies are just too long. If the studio had insisted that Jackson keep them under 2 1/2 hours each, I guarantee they would have been much better - Jackson would have been forced to remove the weakest material and focus on improving the storytelling.

  • March 7, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    This will probably come out to promote "The Hobbit"..

    by darthwaz1

  • then I'm not gonna buy them. I don't care how much better the picture and sound quality is on blu-ray. I'm so sick of seeing great films which I have special editions of on dvd that have loads of great bonus features, end up with nothing on them once they are released on blu-ray.

  • March 7, 2011, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Standard double dip pioneered by Lucas

    by vorlonkosh

    Glad I held out for these. Very exciting!

  • March 7, 2011, 8:17 a.m. CST

    theatrical quality was poor and no new extras

    by drunkenmonkey73

    If you want me to purchase these then it better have excellent HD new extra material. It should also have theatrical cut but I doubt that, that would be bad business.

  • March 7, 2011, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Re: hooded justice

    by darthwaz1

    I totally agree, long drawn-out, epic cgi battles do NOTHING for me..whether it be Star Wars or LOTR, it just bores me and takes me out of the movie. Even small scale movies nowdays suffer from cgi overkill, like "Let me in" for example..

  • March 7, 2011, 8:27 a.m. CST

    One of the dumbest moments from FOTR EE.

    by Behemoth

    When the group meets the elves who are going to lead them to Rivendell, it's daylight in the forest. The elves hear Gimli's loud mouth and surround our heroes. There's a brief exchange. In the EE, we then cut to NIGHT TIME as the party is being led by the elven warriors. NOW, the main elf, the one who made the comment about the "dwarf breathing so loud" earlier, asks Aragorn who he is and who he's with. REALLY, PJ, you sniveling nape??? The elves lead this group of imbeciles through the forest for what must be at least a couple hours and only THEN do they ask who they are in fact leading?? That is truly lazy editing and quality control, although I do prefer the EEs for the most part. Now, if only the EEs would cut, say, 20 of the 243 CUs of someone uttering "Saruman!" menacingly or, say, 52 of the 368 scenes with an orc about to kill a hero only to pause and offer a witty quip right before a sword or spear bursts through their thorax from behind.

  • March 7, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST

    needs more dinosaur stampede.

    by vulturess

    thats worth at least an extra 20-30 minutes.

  • March 7, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Exactly right, hooded justice

    by Behemoth

    FOTR was a spectacular film, nearly perfect as far as I'm concerned. The other two began a nosedive of "Lucasitis." Sure, they weren't bad films by any stretch, but as time goes on, their flaws become so much more apparent. I DESPISE the overuse of typical cliche where an enemy is about to kill a hero only to pause and utter some mocking insult just before being impaled from behind by another hero. You could see these moments coming from miles away. And as the films went on, there was less and less sense of danger. The once intimidating orcs turned out to be the biggest pussies imaginable. Even their gigantic hordes in TT were no match for a few riders with swords, led by Aragorn, who ride out into the throng and just start hacking away. The "battle" between Gandalf and the Witch King was moronic. That should have been absolutely epic. Instead, Gandalf basically gets his ass kicked and there's no tension there whatsoever. Sam and Frodo became whimpering buffoons by ROTK, and the scene I hate the most in the entire trilogy is Frodo HANGING BY A FINGER over the ledge at the end of ROTK. Gee, think Sam will pull him to safety? Ugh, just pathetic. PATHETIC. For me, the problem was with the idiot writers who thought they knew better than Tolkien how to tell HIS story. Sure, you have to make cuts and you have to reshape somewhat for film, but they made way too many and steered the whole thing toward pedestrian clichesville. I hope Jackson doesn't repeat these mistakes in the Hobbit. But judging from the bloated crap that was King Kong, which was even MORE overblown than ROTK, I don't have incredibly high expectations.

  • March 7, 2011, 8:38 a.m. CST

    They're Not Just to Behold...

    by Twisk

    ...They're to Be Held!! (sorry, I'll never be able to get that line from the Burger King glass tie in commercial out of my head)

  • March 7, 2011, 8:39 a.m. CST


    by NeonFrisbee

    Awesome! 12 hours of midgets and hippies walking around... in Blu-ray! Can't... wait... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz<br><br>Nah, I kid, I know LOTR is, like, the holy grail of nerddom. I liked it. Bit long, but I liked it. (I was always more partial to the Rankin Bass "The Hobbit," though. I always liked "The Hobbit" book better too. It's more economical and straight forward. The LOTR books are mostly about people telling each other how many different names they have.)

  • Man i loved these when they came out but now all i can see is bad CGI and atrocious acting. The battles are so bland. They can't show much in the way of humans getting torn apart but common the helms deep battle is just clanging metal and swords. I realize they were PG-13 but that PG really hurt these films in regards to violence. The Orcs have black blood so it'd ok for them to get decapitated but now humans. Also the Ghosts in Return of the King do not work at all. Jackson was originally going to cut the ghosts out but wanted to stay true to the books and I think that was a huge mistake. All of a sudden this giant mammoth battle is finished in seconds thanks to these termite ghosts things. I don't care if it's in the book not everything translates well on screen. FellowShip is the strongest film by far with the best score but the other 2 films are so laughable bad at times. There are some cool badass moments through out don't get me wrong but Sam just gets on my nerves. The only good preformance is by Ian Mckellan and the dude who played the king of Rohan(his name escapes me). So take your geek goggles off and realize Peter Jackson isn't that great of a director and needs to stop with the CGI money shots! I hate Michael Bay and everything but the man knows how to shoot CGI. Peter Jackson has these epic sweeping money shots where everything in the frame is CG but the camera moves to smoothly and focused right away our eyes pick up that it's fake. It pains me to say but when Bay shoots CGI he moves the virtual camera like he would a real camera where not everything is so smooth and fluid. Look at Jacksons King Kong the man can't control himself with these CGI moving camera shots so everything looks fake. Common guys it's time to view these films for what they are; A lazy, poorly written(almost as bad as my post here) poorly acted CGI show reel that is no better or worse than the Star Wars Prequels. These movies are like the Austin Powers movies they DO not hold up and you wonder why they were popular to begin with. And yeah I know Jackson deserves cred for shooting these movies back to back and il give him that but they aren't the great epic films most people make them out to be. Lawrence of Arabia had more of an Epic feel and they had NO CGI. So if David Lean could do a real horse charge in the '60s why does that look better and more convincing that the battle scenes in the Lotr films?

  • March 7, 2011, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Nobody seems to question these movie narrations.

    by Super Joker

    Just listen to it. It's been this way my entire life, I'm fucking bored of this shit! It's always either soundalikes of this gruff, super-serious guy or if it's a comedy or kids film it's "Da derp de derp da derpy derpy dum". And every trailer for a blockbuster seems to have the same fucking music that they use on shit like X-Factor. It's one big homogenised, safe, risk-averse, greed-fuelled, grey glob of pasteurised mediocrity.

  • March 7, 2011, 8:48 a.m. CST

    12 Discs

    by tomandshell

    You will get each of the films in high def on their own Blu-ray, then nine discs of previously released extras in DVD. For each film, you will get the two bonus feature DVDs that came in the four disc set, plus a disc with the documentary that came with the seamless branching edition. So they are packing in nine standard definition DVDs that have been around for years and that most of the fans already own. We are buying a very expensive second set of DVDs just to get the extended editions on Blu-ray with ten year old transfers. Post-Hobbit, we should get remastered versions with the deleted scenes and bloopers that PJ has been holding onto for the fancy HD release, which this is not. This is a "limited edition" (without PJ's involvement) catalog rerelease to shut the fans up, which will be out of print by the time the fancy ultimate boxed set comes around with newly created bonus material.

  • March 7, 2011, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Excuse mistakes, typos etc im writing from my cell

    by ndally

    But I'm sure you can piece together what i was trying to say. Doing this from my cell as quickly as I can has it's draw backs. Hope that post is coherent enough

  • March 7, 2011, 8:53 a.m. CST

    KING LONG Was One Of The Worst Of The Decade

    by NeonFrisbee

    It was *excruciating* to watch Peter "Hubris" Jackson all but strangle anything good about the original King Kong under a mountain of awful cgi. He should be ashamed.

  • March 7, 2011, 8:55 a.m. CST

    People happy with DVD

    by Mr Lucas

    Yes, the DVDs were very good transfers, but if you have a huge (i.e. 50") TV or an HD projector, then you really notice the difference Blu-ray makes. A smaller 1080p TV with poor scaling tech. would also benefit.

  • March 7, 2011, 8:59 a.m. CST


    by jimbojones123

    Why can't we get a version with both to unclutter my shelf? I'd pay 50% more, but I don't want that much more space taken up with extra boxes.

  • March 7, 2011, 9:01 a.m. CST


    by Mr Lucas

    Padded cell, I assume? "Common", you cannot compare these movies to the prequel abortions!

  • March 7, 2011, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Love these this trilogy.

    by knowthyself

  • March 7, 2011, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Amazon says it'll have 26 hours of extended features....

    by Paul

    Here's the 411 on its extras: Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Over 30 minutes of footage incorporated into the theatrical release of the film Four commentaries (by Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Philippa Boyens, the design team, the production/post-production team and actors including Elijah Wood and Sir Ian McKellen); Easter egg: MTV Movie Award Spoof (The Council of Elrod) Costa Botes Documentary: The Fellowship of the Ring: Behind the Scenes The Appendices, Part 1: From Book to Vision (on DVD) Peter Jackson introduction J.R.R. Tolkein: Creator of Middle Earth From Book to Script Visualizing the Story Designing and Building Middle Earth Middle Earth atlas interactive The Appendices, Part 2: From Vision to Reality (on DVD) Elijah Wood introduction Filming The Fellowship of the Ring Visual effects Post-production: Putting it all together Digital Grading Sound and music The Road Goes Ever On... ---- Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers *43 minutes of new footage, with four audio commentaries (see above, plus the actors commentary by 16 cast members, including Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, Andy Serkis, John Rhys-Davies, Orlando Bloom, Christopher Lee, Bernard Hill, and Miranda Otto) Easter Egg: MTV Movie Awards clip (Gollum accepting award) *Costas Botes documentary: The Two Towers--Behind the Scenes *The Appendices, Part 3: The Journey Continues Peter Jackson introduction J.R.R. Tolkein: Origin of Middle Earth From Book to Script: Finding a Story Designing and Building Middle-Earth Gollum Middle-Earth Atlas interactive New Zealand as Middle Earth (map with video location) The Appendices, Part 4: The Battle for Middle Earth Elijah Wood introduction Filming The Two Towers Visual effects Editorial: Refining the Story Music and Sound The Battle for Helm's Deep is Over ------ Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 50 extra minutes with the standard 4 commentaries incorporated into the film Commentary track by writer-director Peter Jackson and writers Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens Commentary track by the design team Commentary track by the production/post-production team Costas Botes documentary: The Return of the King: Behind the Scenes The Appendices, Part 5: The War of the Ring Peter Jackson Intro J.R.R. Tolkien: The Legacy of Middle-earth From Book to Script Designing and Building Middle-earth Home of the Horse Lords Middle-earth Atlas: Tracing the Journeys of the Fellowship: interactive map New Zealand as Middle-earth: interactive map with on-location footage The Appendices, Part 6: The Passing of an Age Elijah Wood/Sean Astin/Billy Boyd/Dominic Monaghan intro Filming The Return of the King Visual Effects Post Production: Journey's End The Passing of an Age Cameron Duncan

  • March 7, 2011, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Mr Lucas

    by ndally

    padded cell? I tip my hat to you sir. Good one

  • March 7, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST

    i will wait for Will Smith's remakes with his kids.

    by KilliK didnt see this coming either.

  • March 7, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    you guys didnt like king kong?

    by robamenta

    really? wow. i think its amazing. some of the shots where people are running next to the dinos look bad. no doubt, but thats just a tiny tiny critique. theres so much amazing in that film. the bug sequence. the final death on the empire state...kong looked amazing. no shot of him did you think he was cgi

  • March 7, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST

    epic! this is the version i've been waiting for!

    by LabattsBleu

    got screwed on the regular DVD releases tho...but Blu-Ray kicks ass.

  • March 7, 2011, 9:23 a.m. CST

    As a rapid LOTR fan...

    by kidicarus

    FOTR is by far the best of the bunch because while epic, the story is centered on the core Fellowship and their journey. The whole part of the journey from the Shire to Bree and Rivendell is bliss, partly because it's more exposition-heavy and CGI use is limited to a few key scenes. Story always trumps action for me. While I still love TT and ROTK, there is a bit of the "unlimited creative freedom" visible that has ruined many a film. Fairly early on in the Battle of the Pelannor you lose a sense of scale of just how large this battle should be and the urgency is lost on the audience. It would've been better to focus on those inside Minas Tirith and only occasionally look out to the deafening hordes outside the gates. The perfect example of how to shoot ridiculously large battles while maintaining a sense of scope and personal danger will always be the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan. Only at the very end of the battle does Spielberg (briefly) pan out to reveal the naval fleet at the beach.

  • March 7, 2011, 9:29 a.m. CST

    this has the Costa Botes documentaries!!!!

    by ghost_matt

    according to the special features listed on Amazon!!!

  • March 7, 2011, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I can watch Fellowship over and over.

    by Super Joker

    It has just enough contrast and adventure. But the other two? The Two Towers was only interesting with the Boromir scenes restorred. Return Of The King kinda bores me. I think it's because it has that ridiculous ending. I mean just look at this:

  • March 7, 2011, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Yeah, King Kong was great, especially when ...

    by Behemoth

    ... a guy shot bugs off another guy with a machine gun. Yeah, that was beautiful. Flailing a machine gun wildly and shooting bugs off another douche while said douche doesn't get a scratch. Once I saw that, I realized that PJ had totally lost the plot. What kind of IDIOT shoots that and thinks it's good, even within the realm of fantasy? Shockingly stupid. And yeah, the Flintstones open looked more realistic than the Bronto-chase with Jack Black. Makes me sick to even think about it. HATE ... RAGE ... ANGER ... HATE ....!!!

  • March 7, 2011, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Color me....

    by Marshal_Lannes

    ...non-plussed. I have the DVD extended editions and that's good enough. I loved the films when they came out, and maybe it's just me, but they're not holding up well under repeated viewings, mainly because of the atrocious tin-ear dialogue that pepper the films. A lot more than I initially realized anyway....

  • March 7, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Gay hobbits in 1080p?

    by SmokingRobot

    No thanks. Sean Astin really as Sam was the weakest link in that movie.

  • Don't get me wrong, class piece, but when it's next to the rest of the LOTR it seems really out of place. Plus, it's not like the LOTR sound track is missing equivalents of unecessary. And generic voice over man... Christ.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST


    by BilboRing

  • March 7, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Now we think LOTR is mediocre?!

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    I'm way late to this AICN party. I guess after running out of one-liners to bash Star Wars, you guys need a new target.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:12 a.m. CST

    They aren't being released "any day now"...

    by Kremzeek

    At least according to Not until the Holidays. Just trying to help temper Nordling's expectations. =) These are my definitive versions as well. I skipped the original releases on both the DVDs and now for Blu. That 3 year wait for all 3 on DVD was painful! At least these are being released at the same time.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:13 a.m. CST

    by seign

    Do they have to put that horrid looking blue band on EVERY blu-ray release? It makes the packaging look terrible in my opinion.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Flawed, flawed films

    by proevad

    And I don't give a fuck. The awesome outweighs a few bad cgi shots and a tiny bit of eye rolling dialogue.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Ultimate Editions still on the way

    by Kremzeek

    Also, there are "Ultimate Editions" being released around the same time the Hobbit comes out in theatres. Not sure what they'll entail yet though. Rumour has it they will contain both versions via seamless branching, but we'll see.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:17 a.m. CST

    clint mansel lux aeterna was used in TTT trailers.

    by knowthyself

    Nothing new using it for this trailer.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:17 a.m. CST

    LOTR does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    I'm a little more excited by the STAR WARS Blu Ray set, simply because of the promise of unseen material, etc on the bonus disc.<p> However, as for simply watching movies... I personally think the 11 odd hours of LOTR is superior to the 13 hours of STAR WARS.<p> You can quibble about which of the LOTR movies is best but the simple fact is they were shot as one entire entity... one epic movie.<p> I think that gives them the edge over STAR WARS by keeping consistency and quality throughout.<p> However... it is disappointing to say the least that this set still doesn't seem to have the deleted scenes that fans have heard of but never been able to watch. It might well be that some of those scenes are disappointing or unfinished with fx.. but still it would be cool to see them, wouldnt it?

  • March 7, 2011, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Ultimate editions or..who needs theatrical cuts?

    by knowthyself

    Clearly the extended cuts are superior.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Re: Knowthyself

    by chrmani

    Appreciate that, it was remixed and I believe it was called 'Requiem for a tower'....and it worked within the trailer for the TTT game. But when it has the official soundtrack either side of it, I think it sounds too out of place. And seeing as so many people now use the piece, it is effect is dampened for something as unique as LOTR. The soundtrack for LOTR is quite iconic, not Star Wars iconic, but iconic none the less. Regardless it is certainly strong enough not to need help from something that wasnt delveloped with the rest of the soundtrack.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    In my younger days I would have preordered these by now..

    by moorE12

    but as I get older, wiser, and more financial obligations I realize I don't need these. I am happy with my regular special additions. Every couple of years I re-watch them, but its really hard to find 10 hours to sit and watch them.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST

    FOTR theatrical cut is perfect, everything else flabby

    by performingmonkey

    Okay, at the time it was great to see more nods to Tolkien's book, and also they made a few improvement to various technical issues in the Extended Editions, but as far as looking at them as movies in their own right, TTT and ROTK need completely new edits, real director's cuts with storytelling in mind. TTT Helm's Deep is great and I would leave that alone, but plenty of flab can be cut from all round. ROTK is wayyyy overlong and gets boring. Like someone else said, suddenly there is no danger from the orcs, you feel like you're on a cruise rather than the ride of your friggin life like it should be. FOTR made the orcs menacing and you felt like the fellowship were in real danger. The Moria sequence is outstanding, one of the most masterful 15 minutes in cinema history - fact. The end fight with Boromir's death, coupled with an ending that leaves you itching, dying for more! I felt exhilirated on first viewing. It's still perfect and the extended version messes with the pace too much. Oh fuck just bring on the Ultimate versions with new cuts, new effects, incorporated stuff from The Hobbit shoot etc.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    latauro: RE: New Scenes

    by Celicynd

    I doubt they'll use Freeman in re-shoot scenes (even if they're going to have to film the scene again for "The Hobbit")... I mean, they couldn't be bothered with redoing the CG in the extended editions for Gollum in Fellowship, with the finished version of the model after RotK.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    "You have my sword....and you have my bow..."

    by Bobo_Vision

    "...and we're gonna need that shit back, 'cause like, we never said you could borrow it."

  • March 7, 2011, 11:05 a.m. CST

    New Easter Egg

    by I. B. Proxy

    The Making of: Gimli's fart

  • March 7, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST

    I prefered

    by goodguy

    the theatrical versions of the films. The extended material was well done, but there's a reason it was cut- it wasn't needed, and in some cases, just slowed the movies down.

  • March 7, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST

    hopefully these are on 1 disc each

    by Bouncy X

    love the EE dvd collection and i was glad i waited the 3yrs for it but the fact the movies were split onto two discs because of the damn commentaries was stupid and annoying. hopefully the blu discs can handle both.

  • March 7, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST

    These are great films

    by Frank Conniff

    Though I agree with proevad that they are flawed, especially TT and RotK. Both of those movies have some really stupid parts, but I can overlook those since the overall level of quality is still excellent. Anyone comparing them to the Star Wars prequels needs to think a little bit more about what they are saying. I think a comparison to the original Star Wars trilogy is much more apt. And for the record, I think the ending of RotK is one of the best parts of the entire trilogy. If it goes on too long for you, maybe you should take some Ritalin and watch it again. I will probably hold back from getting these on Blu-Ray until I see what other editions will be coming out. For now, I am happy with my EE DVDs. I would love to see some of the cut scenes that have been mentioned. I also have always thought it would be cool if they filmed some additional scenes showing the fates of the different members of the Fellowship, like Legolas and Gimli departing for Valinor together after Aragorn’s death, Sam as mayor of Hobbiton etc, though I am sure that won’t happen.

  • ...really is bogus. I love all the CG monster shit to death, but the central "romance" elements are retarded. And the late night walk down a NYC street? Not a single person notices a gigantic ape? Not one? Fucking super-retarded.

  • March 7, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Taking a page from Lucas

    by donkingkong

    I just bought BluRay theatrical releases over Christmas, I knew it was a mtter of time but i needed my LotR 1080P fix.

  • March 7, 2011, 1:07 p.m. CST

    The HD conversion had better be better than the theatrical versions.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    The theatrical blu-rays were not very good when it came to resolution and movement, lots of artifacts, very messy. I was very disappointed in those, good thing I only paid $24 for that shit, and I only have a 40inch 1080p screen! On anything larger it will even look shittier. If this is an ALL NEW HD SCAN of the Extended Versions, then I might be interested. Unfortunately, it appears that this release is from the HD masters from back when they were released on DVD; this means it will have the poor screan quality of the theatricals. It's a sad day in Middle-Earth.

  • Lord of the Rings Extended Trilogy Star Wars Saga Jurassic Park Trilogy Hopefully we'll also see the first three Indiana Jones films released on blu as well. I don't mind buying the LoTR films again. I picked up the theatrical edition blu-rays for about 7 bucks a piece this past holiday on Amazon, so its not like I spent a ton on them so far. Also, I don't have the Costa Botes documentaries as I never purchased the limited editions on DVD. I'm glad that they are gonna be included with this set.

  • Yeah they can't do that now for the simple reason that TO DO that today the budget of the first LOTR movie would have been the budget for all three movies combined and in no way profitable. Oh, and Kong was terrible. Someone was supposed to reign in PJ in the editing room. Unfortunately no one did. Would have been a good film if he had actually scaled it back a lot.

  • March 7, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Frodo - It's wonderful to have them on Bluray Gandalf!!!

    by Orionsangels

    Gandalf - All you have to do is wait for the Torrent copies.

  • March 7, 2011, 1:45 p.m. CST

    I don't re-buy on Blu

    by SithMenace

    But this I might.

  • March 7, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    The story of declining quality

    by gooseud

    FOTR: fantastic, quick moving, great movie. TT: moments of greatness surrounded by moments of flab, bad dialogue, and general boredom. "Big Speech in front of army" fatigue begins to set in. ROTK: awful. After the 17th "Braveheart inspirational speech in front of army" speech, ridiculousness is in full effect. No sense of danger, terrible dialogue, overwrought pretentiousness at every turn. Has aged horribly, and wasnt even really that well recieved at the time (the jokes about the endless ending started up pretty much right off the bat).

  • March 7, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    I'll wait, thank you!

    by Zardoz

    Until they're dirt-cheap or the ultimate "splooge edition" comes out in 3-D. And I'm not buying Star Wars in Blu, either. Why should I? They're coming to theaters again in 3D, so I'll wait for that. Sorry Peter and George, you've got too much of my money already! I'm going to wait a while until I give you some more...

  • March 7, 2011, 1:54 p.m. CST

    wasn't even that well received at the time?

    by slappy jones

    you mean apart from the fact it was success in every single possible way you can measure a films success? It won a ton of Oscars - so peers liked it. Over a billion at the Box Office - so filmgoers liked it and it was well reviewed - so critics liked it

  • March 7, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Re: "ultimate 'splooge edition' "

    by WriteForTheEdit

    When PJ finally cuts back in all the hardcore porn stuff he shot, for sure, then I'll buy to own. You haven't seen bukkake until you've seen elf bukkakke.

  • March 7, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    I like it when people complain about problems in the movie...

    by glenn_the_frog

    that were absolutely inherant in the original books. And then folks go on about how the books are superior, when they have a ton of pacing problems. I read the books to see what the differences were, and the "vastly superior" original product, and... a lot of it was in the source. Jackson's version was overlong, but it was still shorter than Tolkien's, better paced, and had fewer digressions - all hallmarks of a good movie adaptation - and it corrected a bunch of Tolkien's errors, like neglecting half the cast for hundreds of pages at a time, going on for an entire book after the end of the story, and constantly dropping the tension entirely by giving everyone a massive rest break every other chapter. You know, all the things that having a competent editor would have helped Tolkien fix in the first place. Things that get a lot of hate like Sam's preechy speech about hope and people being remembered in stories at the end of Two Towers... is IN THE BOOK, almost word for And the characters didn't stop to sing a song every fifteen pages.

  • March 7, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Only EE I don't like is ROTK

    by Phimseto

    <P> And I like most of what is in the ROTK EE. Where the film fails is in that space between when Aragorn goes into the paths of the dead and his arrival at Minas Tirith. In the theatrical cut, everything flowed perfectly. Even though you knew Rohan was en route, it seemed like *just* enough happened that when they arrived, it was happy surprise. Now, there are three scenes that ruin it (at least for me): <P> The scene with Merry and Eowyn en route. Rohan is perfect off-screen from when they roll out and when they arrive. <P> The scene with Aragorn versus the reavers. Completely ruins the reveal of the ghost army at Minas Tirith, and again its so much better when Aragorn says, "what say you?" and then you don't see him til he arrives. <P> I like the showdown between Gandalf and the Witch King, but the pacing/scoring for that sequence always seemed off. Take a look for yourself, and see if you agree. It's like they didn't have the footage to cut it together right or something.

  • March 7, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    RotK Awful? Revisionist history much?

    by Drath

    Holy fuck, the Jackson backlash is in full swing now! Return of the King was awful? Only to fucking limpdick numbnuts. King Kong was long with too much CGI? Well yeah, you KNEW that going in dickheads. Shit, AICN's talkbacks have been useless for a long time I guess, but by now its fickle "we hate was popular five years ago" bitchiness is now clear as crystal. I'm already seeing comments that Avatar was Cameron's worst film, as if it was was huge flop reviled the world over. Re-goddamn-diculous!

  • March 7, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST

    The documentaries are a trilogy unto themselves.

    by knowthyself

    I cried at the end of the ROTK documentary. It's just as much of an emotional journey as the films themselves.

  • March 7, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Return of the King was boring

    by Eliywahoo

    I said it and mean it.

  • March 7, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST

    I love the Mouth Of Sauron scene in the ROTK EE

    by SithMenace

    Super creepy and cool. Although I understand why it was cut theatrically.

  • March 7, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Yeah, it was awful

    by gooseud

    I'm 36 years old, and I've been in only two movies in the theater in which there were audible pissed-off noises of annoyance from the audience at the endless length of the film. One was Eyes Wide Shut. The other was ROTK.........unless actual groans and uncomfortable, "Are they serious with this?" laughter is what PJ was going for with the now-infamous Frodo bedroom romp. Now, you can say that those movie goers lacked taste and were According To Jim-watching philistines, is what it is. In my opinion, trying to pretend that everyone loved ROTK at the time unconditionally is the REAL revisionist history. See, heres the thing: theres a show coming on HBO in about a month, based on a series of books by George R.R. Martin. Now, if you have actually READ those books, there really isnt any going back. I fully admit, my perception of LOTR may be colored by the fact that those works are to Tolkien as Twilight is to Near Dark. Check the next Game of Thrones TB in Herc's section, you'll see that "Tolkien rejection" is a common affliction for anyone who has read even one chapter of those books.

  • March 7, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Turd-coloured glasses

    by kiwicanuck

    Look, opinions are fine and dandy, bring them on (hopefully with a healthy dollop of insight and logic), but fuck, when you throw things out there like "not well received at the time" as fact, that is horse shit of the highest order. I would argue that ALL the Rings movies have their moments of "flab," but despite these issues I was drawn into TT and ROTK moreso than the first. Sure the endings if ROTK were ridiculed, but if you look back at most of the major critiques of the time, it was one of the best reviewed films of the year - and in fact recieved some of the most stellar reviews of the series. And even though you could argue that its Oscar for best picture was rewarding the series rather than one movie, if it dropped the ball as much as has been insinuated, it wouldn't have trumped everything else would it?

  • March 7, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Slappy Jones

    by kiwicanuck

    You put much more succinctly what I rambled on about so un-succinctly. So true.

  • March 7, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST

    The words Limited Extended sort of contradict, no?

    by kafka07

    it's just odd, that's all.

  • March 7, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Bedroom romp

    by kiwicanuck

    Yeah, that scene was ripe for satire right out of the gate, but jesus, goes to prove how strong the material was though, that the movie as a whole was and is still amazing.

  • March 7, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST


    by BilboRing

    I only bought the extended on DVD years back. I will be buying this ASAP. Gotta have it on Blu. Some movies I don't care if they are on DVD. I won't upgrade to Blu. But certain movies LIKE THIS I will double dip. It has to be special. And this, you fucking haters, was a special movie.

  • March 7, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    As for audiences groaning and bitching

    by kafka07

    I think it really depends what theater or what crowd it was. When I saw them in theaters around here people loved these movies. Many even sat through the end credits attentively. If you get the kind of illiterate douchebags that like to throw candy into the audience, piss in the theater, or talk on their cell phones during the movie then go to a theater that's not in a white-trashy part of town. Sorry to sound all nasty and biased, but this is based on things I've witnessed.

  • March 7, 2011, 3:45 p.m. CST


    by BilboRing

    I love all things Tolkien and I think he was an amazing writer and talent. The movies are nowhere near as good as the books but I still love the movies to death. Nothing will ever beat a book but I knew going into the movies that they were going to have to Hollywood them up a little for the dullards who don't read. So I love both books and movies. As for Game of Thrones, I am going into the series with the same ideas as I did the LOTR flicks. Nothing is better than those books but I can't wait for the show. It's going to rock...and at least hold me over until July 12th!!! WINTER IS COMING!!!!

  • March 7, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST

    All this promo does...

    by PorkChopXpress make me realize how shitty most of the movies we get every year are. This is THE trilogy.

  • Sure they aren't the same movies but both were seminal parts of the culture zeitgeist at the time and we can now look back at what holds up and what doesn't. And the dude who quoted my Lawrence of Arabia statement well Mel Gibson did just fine in 1995 with braveheart(as far as battle scenes go) and that cost less than fellowship and had no CGI horses or landscapes. How much did Lawrence of Arabia cost? Adjust that for inflation and see what we get. Last year there was a video of all the Oscar or Golden Globe nominees including James Cameron, Quintin Tarantino etc anyways they were asked by the dude who was doing the interviewing what their least favourite part of the film making process is and Jacksons response was Dialouge scenes. He hates shooting scenes with characters talking. That says everything right there. Face it folks when it comes down to it this trilogy(besides Fellowship which most seem to agree is the best) they do not hold up. Just look at Jacksons work after Lotr. The Lovely Bones? If it doesnt have a major CGI action sequence chances are Jackson will drop the ball. The only good thing to come out of the rings trilogy is Howard Shore who is criminally under used. Maybe he's an asshole or something but why hasn't anyone hired him for a badass superhero theme? Common Hollywood get on that.

  • March 7, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST

    And speaking of King Kong, that Harry animation has got to go already.

    by WriteForTheEdit

  • March 7, 2011, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Return of the King

    by proevad

    Got a standing O at a theater I saw it at in Texas--a state not exactly known for elite film snobbery. (wasn't in or near Austin)

  • March 7, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST

    full extended edition coming later

    by Dreamfasting

    I believe there are still scenes (or at least snippits) that were filmed but didn't make it into the extended editions we've seen. My impression was that there would be yet-another-release timed for the release of the Hobbit.

  • March 7, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST

    World of Warcraft

    by KilliK

    in capable hands it will become the ultimate fantasy movie.until then we will get the Hobbit.

  • March 7, 2011, 7:48 p.m. CST

    "Fully extended edition"...

    by Zardoz

    is my nick-name for my erect penis!

  • March 7, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Why the non-LOTR music in the trailer?

    by Jaka

    That's really weird. Otherwise, totally looking forward to this set. But I agree that there WILL BE another one to tie into The Hobbit releases. Probably after all the films and editions have been released to theaters and homes, though. Don't think they'll be scenes tying the two together, however, because they're being made by different companies.

  • March 7, 2011, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Wasnt a white trash city

    by gooseud

    It was Annapolis MD, a city roughly on the level of Milan Italy as far as snobbery level LOL not in income, but in snootiness. I'm not even some hater, I WANTED to love ROTK, I actually liked TT more then most people, but it just didnt do it for me, and my distaste has only grown since then. I just think it suffers from Hangover/Austin Powers/Episode I (to a lesser degree) syndrome, where the hype and expectations combine to create an un-hateable movie. I mean, how awful would that movie have had to be for you to walk out saying "Goddamn that movie SUCKED!!". It gets tedious seeing these people be like "Ohhhhh 5 years ago, you LOVED ROTK, now it sucks?!!? HATERS!!". As if it is impossible for time, changing tastes, changing technology, changing culture, and changing perception of a director's body of work, to change a person's perception of a movie. 5 years ago, everyone had a ton of emotional investment tied up in loving that movie. Now, with a little distance, people (like say, 50% of the people in this TB) have come to find the movie's flaws to simply be too glaring. It happens.

  • March 7, 2011, 11:06 p.m. CST

    The Eventual 5-Movie Re-Edit

    by emvan

    ... won't happen until maybe 10 years after THE HOBBIT but it is has clearly already been planned for. The "Concerning Hobbits" segment of FOTR is the first thing Bilbo writes in his journal and needs to ultimately begin THE HOBBIT instead: it'll make no sense coming after two movies called THE HOBBIT. That's the reason Elijah Ward and Ian Holm have been brought back to frame the new movies as a tale told by Bilbo to Frodo.<br><br> In this Ultimate Version, you'll very likely see PJ fix any CGI that looks bad to him. And having had his huge error designing the Wargs pointed out to him by GDT (they need to be super-wolves, not weird hyena hybrids), it's likely that the LOTR Wargs will be re-designed to match the Hobbit ones.<br><br> Finally, it's possible that he'll do some slight restructuring ... we know he has at least one flashback scene (Aragorn meeting Arwen in Lothlorien) that he never did figure out how to use, and given twenty years to think about it, it's possible he'll have some good second thoughts about putting all the pieces together.

  • March 7, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST

    A solid trilogy.

    by spire_walk

    Period. I don't know what fucking stars aligned to make these movies not fail miserably, but for all of their minor flaws, they are more solid than any other movie trilogy. Stop hating on it and appreciate it for it is, the only trilogy that is by and large consistently excellent. How many other movies get fucked with CONSTANTLY by the studio with script doctors coming in to shit on an otherwise great script? Who would have thought New Line Cinemas would fucking produce a fantasy epic that didn't suck? Have you seen the rest of the shit they make? It's a goddamn miracle, and you probably won't see a success story like LOTR for another generation. This is coming from someone who got to see all of his favorite franchises destroyed... Star Wars, Terminator, Matrix, Alien, Predator... you name it, something ended up ruining them.

  • March 7, 2011, 11:19 p.m. CST

    I Hope The Blu-Ray Transfer Is Better Than On The Theatrical Editions...

    by Darth_Nader616

    Because that was lousy. Someone gave a review who has a blu-ray recorder he got in Japan and who recorded off of HD Satelite. And his home-made copies were signifcantly better than the ones he bought. He also said that the Blu-Ray releases were in some places of poorer quality than the DVDs. So since I have HDMI upconvert, I am sticking with the my DVD copies with all the extras until I read multiple reviews tell me better!

  • The feast of Rivendell the night before the Council of Elrond. Etc. Also I can only hope he filmed the rumoured epilogue that shows what happens to the fellowship after The Gray Havens, taken from the appendices. With a voice over by Galadriel. I know they filmed the Aragorn and Arwen death scenes, but I'm not sure what else.

  • March 8, 2011, 12:56 a.m. CST

    People who nitpick LOTR...

    by CeejayNightwing

    Simply don't have an inkling or a minute clue how monolithic the production was in its basic undertaking. The reason these films gained such acclaim and awards is because the sheer dedication by so many over an intense FIVE year production with insane high standards in creativity, prop design, set and location utilization... the list is endless. Nothing in cinematic history has ever been so huge and intensely produced in such a short time by a filmmaker who literally undertaking a task the majority of his peers thought impossible, utterly and totally impossible! If you've never watched the extras and documentaries on your EE DVD's then you're a moron without a clue and understandably still nit-picking about scenes and performances while totally missing the forest for all the tall trees. These movies are not perfect, but they are outstanding in their achievement and entertainment value in terms of presenting a vision to screen. If you don't want to revisit them, then go watch something that took a regular 3-4 months to film and a year to beef up with special effects like any old run of the mill Hollywood studio flick. If you want more blood then watch another sick and contrived Hollywood slasher film with teenagers being chased all over the screen by a guy gone crazy for all the dumbest reasons. There are simply thousands of stupid ass films and lazily produced special effects showcases out there to feed the nit picking mind of the average fanboy and talkbacker. ...these films are so beyond that simply because of the ground-breaking and unique quality never before seen in this genre, a result of their dedication to the production of which we are not likely to see again for a very long time indeed. Ignore this all you like but the fact is there is more to admire acclaim these films for than there is to nitpick.

  • March 8, 2011, 2:18 a.m. CST

    dr. egon spengler LO


    lol...LOTR-bashing is almost as old as AICN. Can't wait for these. Guess I'll have to sell my EE-DVD's to the used-place/Amoeba pronto

  • March 8, 2011, 3:45 a.m. CST

    I don't care about the extras

    by tomimt

    I'll just want the EE movies on blu-ray, as I all ready got the DVD versions with all the extras. So gimme a bit cheper edition with only the movies please.

  • March 8, 2011, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Flawed, awesome, and flawed

    by NightArrows

    I both love and loathe the LOTR series. I loathe them for what Fatty Arbuckle (at the time) did to Aragorn (pussiefied, watered down, wishy washy bullshit. Reforge the sword and walk the line of being King already.), the things he added that weren't needed (showing the fucking ring to the Wraith at Osgiliath? REALLY? END OF FUCKING QUEST RIGHT FUCKING THERE). For ruining Faramir, who I loved in the novel as he was a direct contrast to Boromir (a character I prefered in the cinematic version), and for making Gimli running joke. One of the greatest flaws is all the time spent in slow motion. Jesus Christ, 90% of it was unnecessary and really spoils the films. However, there is much to love, and I'm not sure why there is so much hate for Return of the King. It has, on the whole, some of the greatest scenes put to film. The Ride of the Rohirrim is FUCKING INCREDIBLE. When Theoden gives his speech, and the charge begins, my blood is fucking BOILING for a fight, it gives me chills just thinking about it. When they charge through the lines, my god, one of the greatest scenes put to film EVER. I don't think any scene has ever done that to me, or at least consistently has upon repeat viewings. You don't like that scene? You can go fuck yourself because you are dead inside. The entire scene at the Black Gates as well, simply awesome. The addition of the Mouth of Sauron was REALLY needed. One of my favourite parts of the series because Aragorn acts like he should. With conviction, and force. Not back on his heels forced to act as Jackson created.

  • March 8, 2011, 8:05 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Kong is a tragedy. It really is. Jackson took what to me was a standard monster movie in the original, and added a real depth. There is a whole lot of incredible in that film. The emotion when Kong defeats the final T-Rex, when he's on the Empire State building, all tender and tear jerking. The, that scene is one of the CREEPIEST and terrifying scenes EVER done. HOWEVER, the film suffers from Jackson's inability to control himself. People shit on Lucas for making silly decisions and for slapstick? Jackson has taken that crown my friends. The sauropod stampede has to be one of the most fucking ridiculous scenes ever created. People get trampled by BULLS, and yet these retards are running through a stampede of SAUROPODS like they're on a Universal theme park ride? And taking the time to jump kick and out run RAPTORS at the same time???? FUCK YOU JACKSON. God AWFUL. And the T-Rex fight, while incredible, is just TOO MUCH. One would have been perfect, 2 T-Rexes? OK...but 3? Give me a fucking break. Govern yourself Jackson. And the list goes on and on. It's too much silly in a film that is trying to build a serious tone about a giant gorilla and it's love for a blonde. A premise that is already hard enough to sell without all the horseshit. And if you come to the defence of that stuff because it's "just for fun"? FUCK YOU. FUUUUUUUCK YOU. You're the reason there is suffering in this world, and why there's drought in Africa. Kong COULD have been perfect. But Jackson needs someone to tell him his ideas are fucking stupid.

  • March 8, 2011, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Sad but true

    by Hooded Justice

    I appreciate the comments from people who also feel the LOTR trilogy is hugely overrated; I expected to be roundly condemned by the Jackson-is-God brigade. When the LOTR movies were out, I allowed myself to be swept up by the clamour of voices (this site included) that claimed the movies were masterpieces - even though I found them to be increasingly mediocre as the series went on. But I've stopped kidding myself, and so, it seems have others. The CGI in LOTR becomes extremely tedious and at this point doesn't even have the same visual impact as current video games. And dramatically there are some seriously misjudged inclusions in the theatrical edits and even more so in the absurd extended cuts (a stronger producer would have insisted they never see the light of day). And then there is that truly awful last twenty minutes of ROTK that, I would argue, undoes all the hard work done in the entire three movies up to that point: a bizarre and surreal mash-up of false finishes, grating slow-mo, appalling writing, terrible acting, bad make-up, homoerotica and cloying sentimentality. Truly a train-wreck to rival the dinosaur roulade of King Kong. And I just want to add to what people are saying about the stuntwork etc. The sad fact is that, for adventure films, the action scenes are exceptionally dull - even in FOTR, which is the one flim that demonstrates the potential this franchise had. The problem is the way the movies handle the orcs who are the principal baddies the Fellowship faces. They are treated the same way as the Stormtroopers were in Star Wars: mindless, incompetent, cannon fodder. They pose absolutely no threat, because even Saruman's super-orcs (despite their armour and nastiness and massive size) can be chopped down like daisies by hobbits who hit them on the helmet with stones. And this kills the tension. Not only that, but it poses a big credibility issue: If the orcs are covered in thick plate armour, how exactly are they being killed? In Star Wars, it was all laser beams, so that made sense. But in LOTR, a member of the Fellowship swings a sword in the direction of a group of savage Uruk-hai - and two of them fall down stone dead! No feeling as to how the sword penetrated their armour (in fact the sword clearly missed them by inches). This isn't just to do with the PG rating - it's to do with faulty design of the action sequences (do the orcs really have to wear heavy armour?). It's just one of the things that pulls you out of the movie. It's a real shame because FOTR had some terrific moments in it.

  • March 8, 2011, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Hoodjustice! Yes! A trilogy dedicated to walking...

    by ZodNotGod

    I dug the first film enough, but the second two lost me. Espeically the second movie which is one of the worst edited films released by a major studio in years. So much build-up and for what? Such a terrible movie that has no re-watchability. The hobbits are pathetic little shits that I didn't care about by the second film and just wished they would grow a sack and fight. The third had potential but the dull and terrible effects botch it and of course the 93 endings didn't help. I just remember in the theater when Gandalf turned into an eagle and started flying....DUH! Why didn't he do that earlier and saved the hobbits from all that damn walking!!!!! One of the most mocked scenes I remember giggles in the theater too was the hobbits jumping on the bed like a pack of girls talking about Justin Beiber... I have no use for the series as it stands and wont be buying the blues. I've got Star Wars (flaws and all) this fall, that's enough for me.

  • March 8, 2011, 8:53 p.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    Taking forever to film something does not make it great. It shows lots of stamina sure, but its not great because of it...just saying.

  • March 9, 2011, 12:06 a.m. CST

    @jaka: re trailer music - it IS LOTR music ...

    by jazzdownunder

    but it was [I presume] written specifically for the FotR trailer ("presume" as it was never used in the movie itself as far as I know and not even referenced by Shore in the final/full score). It's called "Gothic Power" and was written by Chris Field...

  • March 9, 2011, 2:23 a.m. CST

    hooded justice

    by jake the muss

    hooded justice... as you're a film maker, I await your multi-Oscar winning, billion-dollar box office masterpiece with interest*. Great interest. * Whilst of course acknowledging the absolute fact that Oscar (TM) or dollars are far from the only measure of a good or worthy film.

  • March 9, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST


    by NightArrows

    Another moment in the first film that stood out and had our audience cheering and clapping was during Boromir's last stand. A fucking epic scene in itself, but when he's finally felled by arrows and that big ugle cunt comes to behead him and Aragorn shows up, wow. Silence and nary a breath in the theatre, the tension was outstanding, and when he finally lops his head off, you could feel the tension in the theatre ease and everyone erupted in applause and cheers. Fantastic scene. Elements like that are why the series pisses me off so much because for every moment like that, we get a slow motion turn around of Frodo when he's realized he's left his front foor unlocked, or his bush is getting to over grown, or Samwise calls his name.

  • March 9, 2011, 8:13 a.m. CST

    One more thing...

    by NightArrows

    Gandalf versus Sauruman? FUCKING RETARDED. When you see what was done in the Harry Potter films with Dumbledore versus whoever the fuck it was outside that chamber of glass balls or whatever, THAT was impressive. I thought "Why in the fuck couldn't we have seen that from Gandalf?" The breakdancing wizard fight was such a letdown.

  • March 9, 2011, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Hey, blame Tolkien for the Hobbits deadly stone throwing.

    by Wayne Tyree

    Jackson didn't make it up. Also, a lot of the Uruk weren't wearing helmets. Furthermore, it's an extremely minor point, particularly in the overall scheme of things. Amazing that someone could look at a movie of that caliber and stop enjoying it over something that trivial. The truth is that LotR is suffering from post de-facto "big movieitis." It happens to all big efforts and especially when people forget it's one story told in three movies. If you don't like TTT and RotK individually then it helps to keep the big picture in mind. All this talk about The Jackson Is God Brigade is just anti-fan reaction. In fact, does anyone see Jackson being defended as if he were incapable of making mistakes or errors in editing judgement on this TB? No, you don't becuase it's just as much a bit of ridiculous hyperbole to cry CONDEMNATION where there isn't any. Far from it as Jackson gets far more shit on this site than praise by my observation. Ringwearer 9 anyone? On another note, can't wait to pop these babies into my Blu-ray player and kick back with a nice bowl of Southern Star.

  • March 9, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST

    "I just remember in the theater when Gandalf turned into an eagle"

    by Wayne Tyree

    You might want to cut back on the shrooms before buying your ticket next time. Still, pretty amazing that Gandalf was actually in your movie theater much less turning into an eagle in the process. That fucking Jackson did it again!!

  • March 9, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST

    well nightarrows, I agree with Ya...

    by mattforce7

    But Kong Fighting 3 V-Rexs wasnt a complaint of most of our books. The Stampede on the other hand, fucking UTTER shit.

  • March 10, 2011, 1:32 a.m. CST


    by Jeff

    I'm one of those people whose optimal Lord of The Rings collection would be: 1. Fellowship of The Ring: Theatrical Version 2. The Two Towers: Extended Edition 3. The Return of The King: Theatrical Version But I'm still fired up to see the extendeds and their extras on Blu-ray!

  • March 10, 2011, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Last Word on LOTR's Enduring Popularity

    by emvan

    Some average user ratings from Netflix, based on 2 to 5 million users per film:<br><br> 4.6 FOTR EE, ROTK EE<br> 4.5 The Shawshank Redemption, TTT EE<br> 4.4 The Godfather, FOTR (Th.), ROTK (th.)<br> 4.3 TTT (Th)<br> 4.2 Casablanca, The Wizard of Oz<br> 4.1 Lawrence of Arabia, Pulp Fiction<br><br> Suck it up, haters. These films remain almost inconceivably popular.

  • March 10, 2011, 9:46 a.m. CST

    The Box Set is done wrong

    by Russman

    The packaging should be in a big red book with the words "There and Back Again". With some never released photos, some interviews, stories and then a number of slots to put the discs in and maybe some blank spaces to put the upcoming Hobbit discs in. I'd pay $150-$250 for that kind of collectors item.

  • March 10, 2011, 10:15 a.m. CST


    by whipped

    If you had a blu ray player or are you going to pull one out of your ass?

  • March 10, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST


    by BiggusDickus

    Troll-killer extraordinaire - I like your style!

  • I can't sit through them. They just go on and on. At the end of the day, you've got a 9 hour movie (12 if you watch the extended editions), and once you realize none of the major characters (except one) are in any danger of dying. They all survive, and the one guy that doesn't survive is redeemed by his brother's actions. I think Kevin Smith was right on this one, it was just 3 straight movies of walking...

  • March 14, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Oh! holy night!

    by Jungle Fish

    I will not deny that my heart has greatly desired this. I'm one of those really weird obsessive Ringers that have watched all the Behind the Scenes disks on my Extended collection multiple times. I find the story of the making of the films almost as magical as the films themselves. And the Extended Cuts are quite a treat over the theatrical release... though I do have to admit, some of the potency of the Return of the King was lost in the longer cut. But not by much. And the new scenes are fabulous.

  • March 14, 2011, 4:41 p.m. CST


    by whipped

    At least you admit you're an obsessive weirdo stuck in 2004. Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward putting the past behind you so you can move on. <P> Pal, put on some fresh undies and get some sun. You're looking positively Gollum-ishy.