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FIGHT CLUB DVD extras!
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Hey folks, Harry here, and The Mechanical Willie has cranked out another scoop for us, this time concerning FIGHT CLUB and... boy oh boy, how I would have loved that first alternative ending being the real ending. It would have sooooo fucked with people's heads. Warning... if you want to be surprised by the alternative endings on the DVD... stop reading... if not... continue... this is the latest word. I can't wait for this DVD to hit shelves...
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Checking in once again from the Fox Home Video department. Since you liked
the movie so much, I thought you would appreciate this news.
The word is that on the Fight Club DVD, there are going to be a couple of
alternate endings. One in which Edward Norton's half of Tyler dies, and
another one even rosier than the screened end, something along the lines of
"Jack and Marla live happily ever after," whatever that means. I'll pass
along more as I find out.
Fox is also apparently really getting on board the DVD train, and will start
amping up their DVD releases considerably, to compete with the feature-heavy
releases that are doing so well, especially Warner Bros.
Mechancial Willie
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I love me some DVD extras! The best discs I've seen are the new A Bug's Life Collector's Edition, which has commentary, AND an entire extra disc of stuff!!! Contact, Silence of the Lambs Criterion, Armageddon Criterion,
& The Matrix(even though the Wachowskis didn't do the commentary, & no trailers!)
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...and Starship Troopers! Great disc.
As for Fight Club, I hope it has a running commentary from Fincher more than anything. That movie was brilliant & Fincher is amazing, I would love to get into his head. -
Is a toss-up between Chasing Amy, (in which Director Kevin Smith proclaims, "First off, I'd like to say 'Fuck DVD!!'" Oh, the head-swimming irony.), and From Dusk Till Dawn, featuring an amped-up Tarantino, in his only feature-length commentary to date, and Robert Rodriguez, talking for the first time about "possible sequels and prequels to FDTD". I still remember the halcyon days when that prospect actually held some excitement, before I witnessed the atrocity that was Texas Blood Money. But enough of that. Tarantino is really interesting to listen to for like 2 straight hours. He's quite mad you know. Also, Ben Affleck and Jason Lee's roles as straight man and insult boy are completely reversed in real life. In case anyone cared. Best overall DVD for extras has got to be Mallrats, the Special Edition. Simply for the fact that it's inherently funny that such a thing as a Special Edition EXISTS for such a flick as 'rats. Over an hour of lost footage, a 40 minute documentary, made this year, on the whole concept of a Smart Porky's (the studio line on the film), many trailers, music videos, it's beautiful. -Renly
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Is one of the alternate endings the ending from the book, where the bombs fail to go off, the Narrator does shoot, and winds up in a hospital which he delusionally considers heaven? Anyway, despite what certain people think, I love this movie and the book and am eagerly awaiting this...this and Chasing Amy as the previous poster are the special editions I'm waiting the most for. -Loki
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It was a toss up for me between this flic and The Matrix for coolest of the year, and, like the Matrix DVD, I'll own this the day it comes out. That Fincher commentary track (yes, there is one) is gonna rock.
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You gave away the ending to the Fight Club novel. Dagnabbit. Oh well, I'll live. . .
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I heard the Chasing Amy actually shows the cut scene of fingercuffs in action (with both Banky and Holden AND Rick Derris and Coey). I'm getting several copies just for that! After all, it's gonna be lonely when Hillary leaves me...
Love, Bill Clinton
ps. I can't wait to pause the DVD to see crazy Tyler appear in that one frame early on in the movie (where HBC walks down that alley). -
It's one thing to have your incredible visions placed on the movie screen and an entirely different thing to have to talk about them. I'd get the DVD just to hear Fincher's reasoning for the "nice big cock" porno splicing within the film-- it should be good for a laugh.
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I really enjoyed Fight Club and am looking forward to the DVD. [SPOILERS]
I especially enjoyed the projection booth sequence, but something just occured to me. Modern home video releases of films don't have "cigarette burns" in them but the reel change is a big part of the gag in that section. I wonder if they will add them so that part makes sense or leave them out so makes almost none. Just curious. -
there's a great commentary by Terry Gilliam on the 12 Monkeys DVD, and it also has a documentary. Gilliam is really entertaining to listen to, because he goes off on other tangents like dealing with the studio system. Dark City has 2 commentaries, the director's, and Roger Ebert, who picked it as his favorite of last year. For those of you who don't appreciate Ebert's reviews, this disc shows exactly how knowledeable he is. The English Patient has a commentary that comes with the VHS gift set which I'm assuming is also on the DVD, and features the director, producer, and writer of the novel. It is actually this commentary that made me appreciate this film for the true masterpiece that it is. There's so much going on that I didn't recognize on initial viewings that they clarify, and it's pretty amazing. If FOX is finally going to put some decent product out there, does that mean we may someday see a Barton Fink DVD with bonus materials? I can only pray...and I don't think Miller's Crossing is available either. There is so much on Fox it's sad. And really lame that this whole Indiana Jones repackaging is only available on VHS. Lucas of all people should know that VHS is the worst quality material, audio or visual, that you can possess. To rob videophiles of a good copy is idiotic.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Chasing Amy Special Edition on DVD. Disney already cancelled it. It was due in September in Canada (distributed by Alliance) and was packed to the gills. Disney was gearing up their own campaign for their shitty, overpriced discs and got pissed because some little Canadian company was outclassing them in the features department. So they cancelled it. Soon, we'll get a movie-only edition from the Rat with features like "Scene Access"! and "Artwork on the disc"! To be fair, I did buy "The Little Mermaid". But I soon discovered something: It was struck from the same lousy print as the video re-release. Sure, the sound was remastered, but the picture still looks grainy and washed-out. The opening scene is evidence enough.
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I read somewhere (cinescape perhaps) that the Fight Club DVD would have commmentary from Fincher, Pitt, and Norton. I'm really looking forward to it. By the way, probably the best commentary on any disc I own is Blair Witch. It has all five of the Haxan guys speaking, and they are so excited and in disbelief that their little camcorder movie has been so successful, that the enthusiasm is catching. Check it out if you haven't already. It's the only way you can watch the movie if you're home alone.
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First of all, I gotta say to the person that said matrix was dumb... that was probably the best movie of the decade, in my opinion.
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To the previous poster, the release date is 4/18/2000 according to dvdexpress.com. Fox may be releasing DVDs with lots of cool features, but the $39.99 SRP of Fight Club will keep me from owning it. I mean, c'mon the DVD of the Matrix was loaded and only cost $24.99 SRP. I bought mine for under $12, whereas Fight Club will be double. I love the movie, but I'm protesting Fox's pricing. We deserve to have the Fight Club set at $24.99 unless it's got 2 discs, then maybe as high as $34.99. Di$ney and Fox are ripping us off.
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Your all a bunch of loser for payin between $5 and $20 more for a movie you can get on video!!!
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I pay an average of $8.00 per DVD I own (more than 60) Plus I doubt Fight Club will be available at sellthrough pricing when first released on VHS.
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I rank this movie right up there with Natural Born Killers as the two worst movies of the decade. The funny thing about both movies is this, they are marketed and written to appeal to the "non-conformists" among us. Yet the "non-conformist" sheep all buy into the message and not the film. Because both films are BORRING AS HELL! It's not the violence that is bad, it's the pace. Look if your life is so pathetic that an Ikea catalog drives you to beat yourself up. Then buy a magazine rack from them, because you have alot of issues. As the great Chris Lock always said, "Heh, I want to be a non-conformist. Just like that guy over there."
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here is the list of special features according to amazon:
Edition Details:
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Heard from a couple of different sources that Rourke was the original choice to play Tyler Durden, but that he was fired.
Does anybody know if any actual footage was shot before this happened?? Is it like a Keitel in Apocalypse Now deal where it'll never see the light of day.
Curious.
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No where in my topic does it state that the message of NBK or Fight Club is about non-conformity. Especially not NBK. Although I do think that part of the statement F.C. is about non-conformity and not fitting in. My point was, the film is ment to appeal to non-conformists, not that the message was about non-conformity. As for the statement that I am a "dumb shit" I always find it quite entertaining on message boards when people result to high school name calling. Perhaps I should call you poopy pants? After all I wouldn't want to insult you in a way that would require you to get out your dictionary. Fight Club and NBK are both incredibly self indulgent and pretentious films. I love when a movie produced, made, and marketed by a Hollywood studio tells us all how evil the media is. I would of respected it more if they wouldn't of done a magazine cover or a TV commercial for it. The message of Fight Club and NBK is similar in one sense. "Don't Believe the Hype!!! Wait, I mean except for the hype about our movie. Believe it and buy it. Don't consume. Except for our stuff."
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how exactly were these said films marketed?
both were renound for being relative flops at there times of release because of bad advertising?
and i only said you were a dumb shit if you were what i said you were, as you proved you were not what i describied you are not a dumb shit, so please read my posts more carefully before dissin me ;) -
My comments: Fight Club rocks. Nuff said.
I have a LaserDisc Criterion version of Se7en, with Fincher's commentary, Andrew Kevin Walker's comentary, the set designer's and I think some one else's. It;s got storyboard sketches of alternate endings, one where Somerset kills John Doe...a diluted version of the film's bleakly shattering evil-wins ending, among stills of sets and other extras. For some bizarre reason, this is not on DVD. Does anyone know if it ever will be?
And anyone know anything about The Ninth Gate? Polanski is sick, and Depp is cool but the preview looked quite cheesy and the book was a red herring.
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Tarantino's commentary on the FDTD DVD? The one released in america or the cancelled canadian one? If it's the cancelled one how did you get it? And more importantly how can I get it? Email me.
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I can't believe paramount has done such a crappy job in putting extra stuff (commentary, interviews, and what makes a dvd most desirable DELETED SCENES)
Paramount did a great job in the 80's of pricing videos low enough to be bought by the general public. Why do they suck now, why aren't the great 80's paramount films available on dvd with good extra stuff. We want more extra stuff in our DVDs! -
El Dorado: The book is brilliant. Lots of fun, very full with literary refs, and somehow also has a soap opera-y edge to it. I can see it as a big-ass and beautiful Polanski film, but I could also see it as a plot for Days of Our Lives. Last time I heard, it was to be released sometime this winter, nothing new since then.
And about Fight Club. Fincher is a very talented director, but the biggest and bestest part of the film is the mind-blowingly fun (if it hasn't already been spoiled for you) conclusion. A plot device that was the creation of the book's author, not Fincher. As for the acting, again, the characters are clearly delineated in the novel. Pitt and Norton never really deviate very far from Palaniuk's (I so cannot spell his name correctly)descriptions. So who's the genuis? Not one individual ... good films happen when all of the elements come together ... and IMO for this movie, more of the hard work was done by the author, not Fincher.
And yes, it is pretentious as hell. And yes, whomever made the sheep comment above wasn't exactly very far off. The response to this film was semi scary ... I mean, its not like Fincher and Palaniuk (again ... too lazy to go seek out correct spelling) are the first 2 people to ever do a satire of consummerism and the modern lifestyle.
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I will agree with you about Natural Born Killers being one of the worst films of all time. It ends up deifying what it holds profane. Making those two into some sort of heroes? Bullshit. But Fight Club never intended to make Tyler Durden a hero. First and foremost, this film is about a man being driven insane with the mundane life. You must understand, "Jack" is in no way a good person, and neither is Tyler. "Jack" is a guy so monumentally fucked up that he *SPOILER* had to create another personality to do what he wanted. Tyler keeps spouting about how we should all live our lives without corporate sponsorship, but here's the funny thing - he's a myth. "Jack" is so helpless that he can't think of any other way except through violence, and even then not through himself, but of someone else of his own making. "Jack" is pathetic. he can't change his own life, only excpet through Tyler. The movie's message - and it does have one - is that you chosse your own life, and the path you've chosen for yourself is yours alone, so live with it, no regrets. If you don't like something about yourself, change it, with no excuses or bullshit. Don't cop out the way "Jack" did. What Tyler says is true (excpet for the blowing-shit-up bit) except that "Jack" is too much of a coward to do it. I think Fight Club is one of the best films of the decade, and certainly the best film of the year. You managed to grasp all the surface points without trying to dig deeper, or maybe you didn't pick them up at all. In no way does this film advocate violence. The violence of the film just shows how much of a failure "Jack" really is, that he can't change his life except through violence, that he's not man enough to stand on his own, at least, until the end. NBK, in my opinion, actively advocated violence as a means to an end. Not so with Fight Club. It was just sad that it took guys beating the shit out of each other to change their lives, when they had the power all along. Funny ending, though. I am eager to carry on this debate, if anyone is interested.
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I like reading these posts about what people get out of movies. I'd also have to be one emotionally damaged person to spend my time railing about how bad a movie is just to pick fights with people. "Cuthbert": You are absolutely right! You win! Happy, now? Now to those who are not manically angry: I think this movie is about conformity issues, but I think they are all about what goes on in one person's head. Remember how Ed Norton and H bonham Carter argue about who gets the whole brain when determining who gets to go to what groups? Or in the end when he holds her hand and says (paraphrase:)"I'm going through a really traumatic time right now?" I think the movie is about what goes on emotionally (and sometimes violently) with every individual when they become involved with someone else. Not only does Tyler not exist but nobody exists but Jack and Marla. Its ALL in his head. Well... just an idea.
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Hey, I think Dumas was craftily written, but I confess the main aspect of the book that attracted me was the occult aspect, and when reading the book it seems as if the supernatural and the literary have some strange connection, book freaks trying to unleash the devil or something (granted, it's kinda weak, but up my alley), but when all is said and done, one of the two mysteries in the book ends up to be completely innocuous and unconnected with the supernatural aspects. Disappointed, but I walked in with other expectations.
And why you decide to negate Fincher's talent is beyond me. He has vision, like all the best directors, and his films have purpose. They all have intelligent things to say regardless of what you think of his opinions. And Im sorry, but sure, Chuck P. had some great ideas and that plot twist rules, but Fight Club was made by Fincher. Its a hyperkinetic ride through a person's insanity in a world with too many false solutions, and I'm sure Fincher saw that plot twist as a perfect fodder for his mind-fuck style of film. In Seven, the bad guy wins because he's right, the world sucks, and Mills actions prove nothing except that it's going to continue to suck, no matter how many Somerset's try to save it. In The Game, the whole point is to jar Mike Douglas out of his midlife crisis by making him literally live out his father's suicide as catharsis. The plan was for him to jump from a roof, just like his father, because it is the only way to wake him up, to stop his own world from sucking. And in Fight CLub, the twist is about regaining your life and your sanity no matter if there's a city falling around you or not. He was finally back in control once Tyler was gone. It's your choices that decide your life, like someone else said on this message board, and sometimes it takes a jolt to make the right ones. It doesn't matter if the world sucks as long as you've got control over yours. -
Jan 10, 2000 4:41:26 PM CST
Fight Club, Splicing, Cigarette burns and for those who care
by sinned4life
I work as a projectionist and manager in a theatre, We stayed up untill 6 o'clock in the mornin watchin Fight Club. Loved it. for those how tend to pay close attention to cigarette burns, which I tend to do, for some reason, the one Tyler points out in the movie are fake, the actual set (they come in twos) come like 5-10 minutes after that. Also just out of couriousity, I checked to see if that last shot of the penis is just one frame, its not, its 5 frames. It lasted way too long, that shot of Tyler in the background as Marla was crossing the street was more like one frame
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STEAL IT! That's the point! Don't be a sheep and think you can buy happiness! Fight Club can bring you 2 hours plus happiness if you buy it, but it can bring you a real sense of self-worth and rebellious glee if you reject the notion that theft is wrong and STEAL IT! (oh boy, this should be fun...)
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