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PETER PAN BEGINS??

Merrick here...

Not much is known about this project so far, so look upon this as more of a food for thought/fodder for discussion sorta snippet.

THIS piece in THR says that producer Joe Roth (Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND, KNIGHT AND DAY, Sam Raimi's upcoming OZ, THE GREAT AND POWERFUL), scripter Billy Ray (VOLCANO, FLIGHTPLAN), and Duke in Stephen Sommers' G.I. JOE movie are shopping around a package. Essentially, it's an origin story of the Peter Pan character, called PETER PAN BEGINS.  

It's been a few years since we had a large-scale PETER PAN movie, the most recent  efforts include P.J. Hogan's unmemorable PETER PAN back in 2003...

 

...and Steven Spielberg's belabored HOOK in 1991.  

 

Let's hope this one, if made, fares better.  

I'm not altogether captivated by the title PETER PAN BEGINS, although I suppose it'll sell better than...say...PETER PAN FINISHES.   

 

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  • March 2, 2011, 11:12 a.m. CST

    FIRST!!

    by darthderp

    That is all.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Could it be????

    by DangerDave

    ?

  • March 2, 2011, 11:12 a.m. CST

    by one second!?!?!?!!

    by DangerDave

    DAMN YOU GOVERNMENT COMPUTER!!!

  • March 2, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST

    I liked the 2003 Peter Pan

    by Mahaloth

    Quite a bit, actually.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Dangerdave....

    by darthderp

    A government comp? Must be a conspiracy....

  • March 2, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Peter Pan 2: Cruise Control

    by Mickster_Island

  • March 2, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Can I get a Rufio movie instead?

    by Doctor_Strangepork

  • March 2, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Because no one demanded it.

    by Larry Sellers

    The 2003 Pan movie was actually not bad.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    slow down there with the 'unmemorable', buddy!

    by maxwell's hammer

    I thought the 2003 version was probably the best the material could ever hope to be treated on the big screen. It wasn't a huge blockbuster, so I guess Box Office wise it may not go down in history, but as an adaptation of Peter Pan, it was very good.

  • Not knowing everything is the key: -did we need to see the Clone Wars? -did we need to know Hannibal Lecter's backstory? -isn't half the fun wondering how Peter Pan became a boy who never grows up?

  • March 2, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    The Original JM Barrie stories were dark.

    by yamayama

    In one sense we already had the dark Peter Pan in the film version of "Lord of the Flies". Look how kids are so quick, fickle and savage when they agree to disagree. If they REALLY want to do it properly the they will have to cast 8 or 9 year olds in the parts and have them go feral. Really savage. Have Peter Pan like a child version of Benecio Del Toro's character out of "The Hunted".

  • March 2, 2011, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Peter Pan Finishes..

    by ShogunMaster

    Could be a good porn title. Though the fact it's about young kids might not go over that well...

  • March 2, 2011, 11:21 a.m. CST

    hook was the first and the last time..

    by emeraldboy

    the berg and julie roberts worked together. the berg found working with her so tiresome that he vowed that he would never work with her again.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:22 a.m. CST

    A: Saucepan

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Q: Who was Peter Pan's wino brother? Carnac The Magnificent, ladies and gentlemen!

  • March 2, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    belabored? What the FUCK are you talking about merrick?

    by golden tribw

    HOOK is a goddamn classic. Julia Roberts as Tinkerbell, Dustin Hoffman giving the one performance of his career in which he's completely unrecognizable as Dustin Hoffman because he absolutely disappears into Hook, and Bob Hoskins stealing scenes as Smee. How could anyone not love this movie??? Good christ. "Belabored." Piss off.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:25 a.m. CST

    And I'm looking forward to the part where Peter meets Tinkerbell...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ...and asks, "Does it come in black?"

  • March 2, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST

    also, give us anything but an origin story (about anyone)

    by golden tribw

    Origin stories have been done to death but for some reason Hollywood writers/producers haven't clued into the fact that, ESPECIALLY for major/classic/franchise characters, backstory is completely unnecessary, we'd rather be launched into the story. Even for new characters, sometimes it's nice to begin in medias res ... everyone got a boner for Inception, the first 20 minutes of which simply cannot be understood immediately the first time you see it, so what's the problem?

  • March 2, 2011, 11:28 a.m. CST

    And the scene where he'

    by WriteForTheEdit

  • March 2, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Ahem... where he's learning to fly and he plummets and...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ...Michael Caine says to him, "And why do we fall, Peter? So we can learn to pick ourselves up."

  • March 2, 2011, 11:31 a.m. CST

    HOOK is awesome

    by D.Vader

    Bangarang.

  • Should be nothing but producer on this project. There's absolutely NOT a single role he could play in this. For one, Peter Pan is a kid. Two, every character is british and I don't see accents being his forte.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Hook was and still is great

    by DrPain

    pure and fun fantasy with an excellent score as well.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Rufio! Rufio! Ru-Fi-Oooooooo!

    by UGG

    I can barely remember Hook other than that, a fake food fight and a giant dead croc somehow eating Cpt Hook.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST

    2003 version

    by enderandrew

    Before the 2003 version, there really wasn't a live action traditional Peter Pan. It simply didn't exist. I thought having Mr. Darling and Captain Hook as the same actor was actually a brilliant move. And while the 2003 Peter Pan isn't amazing on the whole, it is a servicable verison of Peter Pan.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST

    One of John Williams' best scores of all time

    by D.Vader

    Up there with Star Wars, Indiana Jones, JAWS, Superman, Jurassic Park... Its beautiful.

  • I believe its been that way since the first productions of Peter Pan. Even the Disney version had the same voice actor for both.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Hook was good as a Spielburg fairy tale

    by sweeneydave

    But it betrayed everything that Peter Pan stood for. The 2003 Peter Pan compromised some of the legend (Captain Hook flying) but was far closer to the spirit of the story than anything I've seen. I love that Peter Pan was a spoiled brat who knew how to be a good husband to Wendy, but refused because it would mean growing up. I love that version. I remember sitting in the theater with my wife shortly after she confessed to cheating on me. We both sat there wishing we could escape to that world where we didn't have to deal with grown up things.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Did you guys know that Rufio

    by sweeneydave

    did the voice for Prince Zuko in the Avatar: The Last Airbender cartoon?

  • March 2, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Pan does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    I thought PETER PAN 2003 was pretty good too.<p> In fact all things considered I'd say it's my fave movie version of the tale.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST

    "I've just had an apostrophe!" "I think you mean an epiphany."

    by D.Vader

    "Lightning... has just struck my brain." "Well that must hurt."

  • March 2, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Couldn't agree with ya more D.Vader

    by achapin14

    The Movie was amazing and that Score from John Williams was Epic!!! I hear him Live at the Hollywood bowl a few years back and him playing the Hook Theme Live was Amazing!!!

  • March 2, 2011, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Hook = One of my Childhood Favorites!!

    by achapin14

    Amazing Flick! It had the perfect amount of Humor, and Action, and Drama!

  • March 2, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Vader and other HOOK fans, sorry to disagree but I didn't think much of it (save for the score).<p> It seemed a very 'fake' movie to me, with very obvious film sets and OTT performances. Plus Robin Williams at the height of his most schmaltzy and annoying period.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Brom

    by fastman309

    The Child Thief would make a much better movie

  • March 2, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    The Peter Pan Rises?

    by Tarantinos_Forehead

    That would make more sense

  • March 2, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    I saw HOOK for my 10th bday, Cobra-Kai

    by D.Vader

    It will always take me back to being a kid again. You sound like those that never saw the Goonies as a kid in the 80s and watch it now and don't see the appeal. No harm, no foul. If you want Robin Williams at the height of his most schmaltzy and annoying, you must be talking about Patch Adams.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    "This is it, don't try to stop me this time, Smee!"

    by D.Vader

  • "... Try to stop me."

  • March 2, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST

    SCREW PETER PAN...CHOOSY MOMS CHOOSE JIF

    by Darth Busey

  • March 2, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Hook was horrible

    by Acappellaman

    One of Spielberg's worst movies ever. The acting was wooden and forced, especially Julia Roberts. Normally Spielberg's movies do really well with child actors, but not in Hook. Just not good. Not good at all.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST

    "You can fly, you can fight and you can crow!"

    by DrPain

    and the whole "Oh there you are, Peter" scene is brilliant.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Dark Peter

    by DaBUU

    If there is any story out there that needs a gritty reboot......its Peter Pan

  • March 2, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Hook

    by Mr Lucas

    less "the shit" and more just shit.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST

    tallboy6t6- That was Prince of Thieves w/the Ewok village

    by TheSecondQuest

    The Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves toy line reused the Ewok Village playset (they just added some leafy tops to the tree trunks), not Hook.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST

    That kid in the "Oh *there* you are, Peter!"...

    by D.Vader

    Yes, its a brilliant scene. But that little kid looking over Peter's face, when he looks through the glasses, he looks like a little old man with an ageless face. Its such a cool moment and a weird effect. Great scene, fantastic music there.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Birthday does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Vader, I wish i'd been there at your party, sugar rushing on cola and hopping around in the chair while HOOK played out.<p> Instead, I spent my 10th birthday scaling the razor sharp rocks of Mount Fukkytalltall, where at the top I fought a duel-to-the-death with a rival student for the honor of being trained by master Han-Shu-Greedo-Firs.<p> I won the duel, and though close to death, implored my master to give me my first lesson.<p> He said "Drop and give me twenty."<p> It was around that point I realised I might need a new master.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 was horrible, nothing redeeming, his worst film

    by IndustryKiller!

    Even Ford fell flat in it, a terrible shame.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    there you are peter (youtube)

    by golden tribw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezx3fXBYdUI

  • March 2, 2011, 12:33 p.m. CST

    incredible music!

    by golden tribw

    Such a great score

  • March 2, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Things I hate: HOOK, fun, children, laughter, positivity, nostalgia,

    by golden tribw

    peace on earth, optimism, friendship, ...

  • March 2, 2011, 12:44 p.m. CST

    remember the imaginary food scene?

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • March 2, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Enderandrew and d.vader

    by lyleblake82000

    When doing the stage version of PETER PAN, it is standard practice to use the same actor for Mr. Darling and Captain Hook; I think it’s probably specified in the script, as it has been done hundreds of times. Murky psychological overtones and all that.

  • March 2, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Is this a Harry Knowles biopic?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • March 2, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Peter Pan Finishes...

    by Dave

    will be the porn version

  • March 2, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Tinkerbell plays with a young boy's Peter.

    by Royston Lodge

    Wakka wakka wakka!

  • March 2, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    I'm a sucker for Peter Pan

    by MacTard420

    from the Disney original, to Hook, and the 2003 version! I love 'em all!! This news has me excited...as long as Mr. Tatum isn't Capt. Hook!

  • March 2, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    "Boil-dripping, beef, fart-sniffing bubble butt!!!"

    by Han Cholo

    "RUFI-OHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"

  • March 2, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    PETER PAN RISES!

    by Wookie_1995

    did nolen approve of the first title you thought of?

  • March 2, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Peter Pan is creepy as all hell.

    by David Cloverfield

    Immortal child abducting other children to another world, where people don't age (and an insane pirate captain literally runs away from the ticking clock.) Say what you want about Hook, but that movie captured the creepiness of the concept.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Robin Williams prancing around

    by David Cloverfield

    was supposed to make you uncomfortable. That was the whole point of the movie. I loved the rules of that world and how feelings effect it (like the kids forgetting their parents if they have too much fun)

  • March 2, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    The 2003 PETER PAN film was absolutely wonderful!

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Anyone who didn't think so obviously didn't grasp the essence of J. M. Barrie's work.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    I have NEVER liked Peter Pan

    by Jaster

    I've seen the Disney cartoon several times. I've seen Hook and the play (never bothered with Disney's Peter Pan 2 or the 2003 film), but I just always thought it was a dumb-assed story. Basically, Peter's kind of an asshat and I can't bring myself to give a shit about him one way or another.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Honestly - you can't do better than Jason Issacs as Hook...

    by 5_day_forecast

    Unless you get Daniel Day_Lewis. I drink YOUR pixie dust!

  • March 2, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Hook was BOOOORING

    by David Ortiz

    Boring script, Robin Williams was awful, the kids were horrible, everything about it was lame. Except for maybe Dustin Hoffman, who at least was trying to have some fun with it. One of Spielberg's worst, along with Indy 4 and A.I.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    2003 Peter Pan

    by Customikey

    I'm in with the crowd who thinks the 2003 effort was marvelous. It was overshadowed by RotK that year, but it's going to be rediscovered slowly and will achieve it's rightful place as the classic it is.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    2003 Pan was a respectful look at the material.

    by knowthyself

    Unafraid to hint at all of the very strange and bizarre relationships between Pan, Hook, and Wendy. Great movie that I can rewatch even to this day with little complaints.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Will Smith's kid as Peter

    by Sanyi

  • March 2, 2011, 1:39 p.m. CST

    I always thought Hook was well received

    by Transhuman

    and went down as a classic. I don't remember belabored.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    by the way...

    by Sanyi

    I loved Indy 4 when I saw it at the theater. It was fun. Not as great as the first 3 movies but good old-school fun. Don't be too harsh on it...

  • March 2, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST

    How on earth is Indy 4 worse than Hook?

    by knowthyself

    Not even close.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    No way Mattman

    by D.Vader

    The ant scene is one of the very best parts of Indy IV.

  • But I do remember "Hook" getting some piss-poor reviews, including a complaint that his pirate ship never sails, an egregious missed opportunity. And didn't Julia Roberts earn the nickname "Tinkerhell" with her shitty on-set attitude? Yeah, it made money, but I don't think it's considered a classic by all that many.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Merrick does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Merrick, I just clicked on the link you provided where you wrote "P.J Hogan's unmemorable PETER PAN back in 2003"..<p> And it took me to Amazon where the PETER PAN movie has a whopping 403 customer reviews and a staggering 4.5 star average. Kinda makes the 'unmemorable' comment you made seem rather.. well... wrong.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Another version...anyone knows?

    by sputo

    I don't remember if I read it here at AICN or somewhere else, but wasn't there gonna be a movie dark and gritty version of Peter Pan where he and the lost boys were all vampires?...hence eternal youth?..that would be interesting to see if done correctly...read it a couple of years ago, anyone knows more about this?

  • March 2, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Ants actually do climb on top of each other, Mattman

    by D.Vader

    That little scene was very realistic (and looked it too). I'll give you the "dragging" scene as looking a bit CGI, but on the whole the effects look great. That entire sequence is creepy and fits in perfectly with the snakes, bugs, and rats from before.

  • March 2, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Sputo

    by D.Vader

    Maybe you're thinking of that other version, the Noir/Sin-City script where Hook is a detective in a city and Pan is a serial killer or something bizarro like that.

  • March 2, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST

    For modern film geeks, Indy 4 is INFINITELY worse than Hook...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ....because Indy 4 was an abomination compared to its prior classic chapters (including TLC, I think), and therefore a crushing disappointment after ALL THOSE FUCKING YEARS WAITING FOR ANOTHER INDY ADVENTURE. Hook was just a not-so-great (as I've heard) sort of Peter Pan sequel thing...

  • March 2, 2011, 2:05 p.m. CST

    d.vader

    by sputo

    No, didn't know about the one you mention either, sounds interesting, is it available somewhere to read? I remember about 7-8 years ago reading about this "vampire" version of Peter Pan, and from what I can recall it was getting made, and it would be violent. If anyone has confirmation or other news about it, much appreciated.

  • March 2, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Peter Pan 2003 was very good.......

    by u.k. star

    . ..It was a real shame that it wasn't a big hit, it deserved better. I remember a lot of annoying American parents' groups getting all arsey about the "kiss". I just wanted to scream, "READ THE FUCKING BOOK YOU IGNORANT, BANDWAGON NO-LIFES!” It also had a horrendous release date. Come out less than a week aftr ROTK and against Cheaper by the dozen; so the fantasy angle got the boot from Lord of The Rings, and the family angle from Cheaper, and to a lesser extent Rings again. Love the film and Jason Isaacs was perfect as Hook.

  • March 2, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Unmemorable? Up yours, Merrick!

    by Drath

    AICN led the charge of hype for it with Moriarty's script review, and the movie was very good! Merrick, FAIL!

  • March 2, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST

    I am here to defend Peter Pan 2003

    by KevinMuller

    I thought that movie was amazing. The sets, the score, and the themes were handled beautifully. I think that was my favorite film of that year.

  • March 2, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST

    The idea of Peter Pan and the lost boys as vampires

    by sweeneydave

    sounds amazing. The indians would be the crazy cult that worships them. And that would put Hook and the pirates as the good guys trying to stop them from stealing away any more children. I want to see that movie.

  • March 2, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Not sure if I read it right?

    by BigMick

    Merrick, not sure if I read your article right and what you thought about Hook. Maybe I'm completely misinterpreting your words, in which case I apologize. But are you kidding me? Hook was fucking awesome!

  • March 2, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    The idea of Peter Pan as leader of vampires has been done

    by Jaster

    It's called....wait for it.....THE LOST BOYS! I mean come on folks. You need it fucking spelled out for you? Didn't the frog brothers even put on indian war paint at one point?

  • March 2, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST

    That's it, I'm done with the movies

    by lv_426

    Peter Pan Begins? Are you fucking serious?

  • March 2, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Will there be a scene where

    by lv_426

    Pan (because you know they'll shorten his name from Peter Pan to just Pan to make him sound more hip and dangerous) kicks one of Hook's minions off the branch of a tree or off a pirate plank while he yells "this is Neverland!!!!!"

  • March 2, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Unmemorable? No. Under-appreciated? yes

    by SifoDyasJr

    The 2003 Peter Pan was extremely good an very faithful to the spirit of the book--it just didn't get the attention it deserved. It also makes a good double feature with Finding Neverland.

  • March 2, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Dear God

    by SmokingRobot

    Please make it stop.

  • March 2, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Peter Pan 2003

    by United States

    I agree that the 2003 Peter Pan was a very good movie, and played very true to the play and book. Jason Issacs was brilliant as Captain Hook. A great movie. Merrick should watch it again.

  • March 2, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    HEY! I like "Hook" dammit!

    by Mike_D

    in fact it's in my dvd collection.

  • March 2, 2011, 3:35 p.m. CST

    'Peter Pan Begins'?

    by buggerbugger

    Hollywood, just... go away. Go away and don't come back until you've come up with some really good ideas or at least optioned some really good ideas that someone else had while you collectively sat there, slack-jawed and drooling vacantly into the distance. Because all of this '...Begins' and '...: The Prequel' and '...: First Class' and '...: The Reimagining' shit just isn't cutting it. I don't want to know how all of these rehashed characters "began", I want to see *where* *they* *go* *next*, but that seems to be an increasingly rare fucking thing on the silver screen. 'Spider-Man 1 Again', 'X-Men 0', 'Planet of the Apes -1'... fucking fed up with this shit.

  • March 2, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Peter Pans of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Box Office

    by Mel

    zing.

  • March 2, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST

    'Peter Pan Begins' FFS??

    by SpawnofAchilles

    You've got to be fucking kidding me with that title and this concept. Enough with the pointless, creatively bankrupt fucking origin stories.

  • March 2, 2011, 4:13 p.m. CST

    couldn't agree more...

    by exador

    bought that for my kids to watch not that long ago, and they absolutely love it...even more than the disney cartoons....as far as i'm concerned, its a fantastic movie....

  • March 2, 2011, 4:14 p.m. CST

    2003

    by exador

    i mean the 2003 version that merrick doesn't seem to dig...

  • March 2, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST

    2003 Pan

    by Shaner Jedi

    count me in as one who thinks the 03 version is great. It was well made, acted, and was a great adaptation of the material.

  • March 2, 2011, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Peter Pan and ATLA...

    by The Dreaded Rear Admiral

    Hmmm, Dante Basco (Rufio in Hook) did the voice of Prince Zuko. Jason Isaacs (Capt. Hook and Mr. Darling in Peter Pan - 2003) did the voice of Commander Zhao. AND the series was about a 110 year old kid who never grew up... Coincidence...yeah, probably. Still, pretty neat!

  • March 2, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Jaden Smith as Peter Pan

    by tommyleespenis

    and Willa Smith as Tinkerbell. If Will Smith is attached NO other kids will be allowed to audition for these roles.

  • March 2, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Dave Barry

    by robert0

    Has written a series of Peter Pan prequel books, published by Disney press. My kids love them. Any plans to make movies based on those? I believe there are 3 or 4 of them.

  • March 2, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    How old are you HOOK fans?

    by slone13

    You must have all been 10 years old or under when that flick came out, because it was fucking AWFUL. I'm a huge Spielberg fan, but HOOK had no redeeming qualities at all. The gaudy sets, so obviously built on sound stages. The completely miscast stars. (For the record, Capt. Hook is supposed to be fucking scary, not some tiny loser with an inferiority complex.) The terrible overacting from every member of said cast. The United Nations version of The Lost Boys. Rufio? What the fuck is a Rufio? Glenn Close as a male pirate? What the fuck??? Horrible, virtually unwatchable waste of celluloid in every way.

  • March 2, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    The child thief

    by levithegreat

    I recently read a book by Brom called "The Child Thief". It is a darker take on the whole Peter Pan mythos. I highly recommend it and it would make a great movie some day.

  • March 2, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Hook wasn't great, but it's not an abortion of film either.

    by Orbots Commander

    It's just a kind of 'eh' mediocre flick that was entertaining due to Hoffman's Hook and Hoskin's Smee. Williams and Roberts dragged the movie down whenever they were on screen though. Oh, and the John Williams score is an underrated gem. As someone else has said, Spielberg has rarely, if ever, made an out-and-out horrible movie. The one movie he filmed that was tough to sit through was 1941. I can never go the full way through that flick; the guy with the talking dummy on the ferris wheel always makes me reach for the remote.

  • March 2, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST

    So HAPPY to see all the PP (2003) support!

    by ColinSL

    I was quite annoyed at seeing Merrick's casual shrug of Peter Pan (2003). It is the best depiction of Peter Pan I've ever seen on film and has several very memorable scenes, one of James Newton Howard's best scores, fantastic acting by everyone from the pirates to the children cast. UNFORGETTABLE scenes: Mrs. Darling explaining the less obvious bravery of their father to her children and using the heartbreaking, but illuminating allegory of opening up a drawer to look at past ambitions and the sacrifices he made for his family. The narrator voicing this line as John and Mrs. Darling run up the stairs right as Peter is convincing Wendy to go to Neverland with him: "It would be delightful to report that they reached the nursery in time... but then, there would be no story." The awesome reveal scene when we think, for a split second, that Hook is only called Hook because he HOLDS a hook, but we then see his deformed stump of a hand before screwing the hook on. The completely ruthless Hook, killing his crew and casually murdering Wendy's fairy guide with a quick: "There's no such thing as fairies." The childlike, dreamy and absolutely fantastic scene of children, adults and pirates everywhere chanting "I do believe in fairies! I do! I do!" Hook accepting his demise: "Old. Alone. Done for." And many others accompanied by beautiful cinematography, a rousing score and dedicated direction. Simply put-- If you don't like Peter Pan (2003), you don't like Peter Pan.

  • March 2, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Pan 2003 - one of the greatest kids' movies ever made

    by performingmonkey

    It's been shown plenty of times on TV here in the UK and every time I turn to it it keeps me hooked (get it??? GET IT?????? HOOKED! It keeps me fuckin HOOOKEDDDDDDDD!! Get it?) till the last frame. It's a perfect adaptation with brilliant performances, awesome cinematography, design and music. No-one could have asked for anything better. Also, the girl who played Wendy, my my did she grow up to be such a beauty.

  • March 2, 2011, 6 p.m. CST

    I hate, I hate, I hate Peter Pan

    by TaLoNe

    nuff said....This should just be LEFT ALONE

  • March 2, 2011, 6:34 p.m. CST

    So in Peter Pan Begins...

    by darth_ghidorah85

    Will Captain Hook first train Peter Pan in sword play, only to betray him at the end of the movie? Hook: "Your abduction from England was not your fault...It was your Father's!" Hopefully Liam Neeson is cast as Hook and our Mighty Lord Bale as Peter Pan.

  • March 2, 2011, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Surely, surely, surely...

    by CountryBoy

    ... they're not ACTUALLY gonna call the final film "Peter Pan Begins"? Then again, this whole idea is so bankrupt they may well be just as lazy and cash-grabbing with the title as that.

  • March 2, 2011, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Coincidently i watched the 2003 version on tv

    by KilliK

    a few weeks ago.i didnt even know that there was a new PP movie,apart from Spielbergs older one. And i have to agree with the above talkbackers,i found the 2003 version much better than HOOK.

  • March 2, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST

    2003 Peter Pan was awesome!

    by Cap'n Jack

  • March 2, 2011, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Hook had almost nothing to to with the original concept

    by AshMcQ

    But it was ok ,I guess. Much preferred the 2003 film, I totally love that film actually. I wonder if they use some of the material in Loisels PETER PAN Origin story. Basically, peter is some sort of a oliver twist character in this one. Extremly cool.

  • March 2, 2011, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Hook sucked

    by dukeroberts

    I hated it. My favorite is the animated Disney version. It's also my favorite Disney movie. The 2003 version was really good. It put Peter and Wendy right at that age where love begins to blossom in the hearts and elsewhere. Tempting Peter at that age, to possibly give it all up to be with Wendy, after feeling the magic not caused by pixie dust was wonderful. Hook was just a noisy mess. I can't even remember the score, but we're not supposed to understand Tink. So, why did we understand that stupid, red-headed Tink? I don't care if it is Julia Roberts. Mere humans are not supposed to understand her. In the 2003 version, Tink was a sexy little pixie, played by Ludivine Saugnier. Tink should be sexy. She's a pixie. Julia Roberts is not sexy.

  • March 2, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah

    by dukeroberts

    And this "Peter Pan Begins" idea is effin' awful!

  • March 2, 2011, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Joining the Pan 2003 Love Club

    by HapaPapa72

    I never cared about Peter Pan until I had kids. We rented it on a whim and I loved it. Made me realize how much I don't want to grow up either. And Jason Isaacs just chewed up Captain Hook. And Tink and the mermaids were hot...

  • March 2, 2011, 7:49 p.m. CST

    fox's peter pan and the pirates was

    by davy

    was one of the better/underrated incarnation of the peter pan mythos in my opinion

  • March 2, 2011, 8:20 p.m. CST

    "HOOK had no redeeming qualities at all. "

    by D.Vader

    That's gross hyperbole.

  • March 2, 2011, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Fox's Peter Pan and the Pirates...

    by D.Vader

    Had Tim Curry voicing Captain Hook if I remember correctly.

  • March 2, 2011, 10:12 p.m. CST

    d.vader Re: Fox's Peter Pan and the Pirates

    by spire_walk

    Tim Curry as Hook was the single best thing about that series. Too bad Curry never reprised the role on the big screen.

  • March 2, 2011, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Glad to see the love for the 2003 Hogan version...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...I've also got to along with then-USA Today critic Mike Clark, who said that Rachel Hurd-Wood was "a Wendy for the ages". Quoted for truth, as the kids say.

  • March 2, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST

    The 2003 version is very true to the original 1904 play

    by TheHumanBeingAndFish

    including having the same actor play both Hook and Mr. Darling. It was great.

  • March 2, 2011, 10:55 p.m. CST

    In my previous post...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...it should read, "got to go along". This joint still needs an edit button.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Turd (he said affectionately)...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...oddly enough, the question of Spielberg's worst film came up in conversation just last night. I chose Armistad. The opening slave rebellion on the ship is fantastic; after that, it's the dullest thing he ever made. And Matthew McConaughey is as miscast as he is in Contact, which is really saying something. Indy 4 is deeply disappointing, but it's still a more watchable film than Armistad. Lost World isn't Jurassic Park, but I don't have serious problems with it. And 1941...(confession time...) I enjoy enough to have seen a couple of times since it came out. It's big and loud and noisy...but inventive and clever, too, and it has some great setpieces, like most Gale/Zemeckis scripted movies. (Love that USO dance.) It's not one of his best, but it's not at the bottom, either. (But then I like It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World too, so whaddaIknow...). Like mattman, I think Hook is an failure with good incidental things about it. It's certainly not bad in terms of craft, no Spielberg film is ever less than accomplished. The problem is James Hart's concept: a movie about The Boy Who Never Grew Up...growing up. It pretty much misses the whole point of the story.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Jack Before the Beanstalk

    by Jollymorphic

    Where'd those beans come from?

  • March 2, 2011, 11:38 p.m. CST

    I could never have been a Lost Boy...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...too much Pan in my peter. (With thanks to Norman Spinrad, whose character Pater Pan in his book Child of Fortune has a name encapsulating the whole problem with Hook.)

  • March 2, 2011, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Have to go along, however, with those praising Hook's score...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...perhaps the best thing in the movie.

  • March 2, 2011, 11:44 p.m. CST

    "After all, what would the world be like without Captain Hook?"

    by jazzgalaxy

    I freaking love that movie. People who don't like it don't deserve to

  • March 2, 2011, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Orbots, I'll give you the guy with the dummy...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ..my least favorite thing in 1941.

  • March 3, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Peter and Wendy

    by blackwood

    Christ, do people read books anymore? Peter and Wendy is a fantastic, layered, kind of creepy, psycho-sexual story that could do to be filmed... and never will be. Mr. Morgan/Hook ARE the same character. There's a lot to the story. It's great. Read. Also... I liked HOOK a lot when I was a kid. Haven't seen it since, but I remember it fondly.

  • March 3, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST

    I loved Hook

    by Marat

    Why do we need this?

  • March 3, 2011, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Please leave this Alone!

    by hallmitchell

    How more Peter Pan based flops do we need!

  • March 3, 2011, 1:39 a.m. CST

    I really enjoyed

    by Juggernaut125

    the 2003 Peter Pan as well as the cartoon Peter Pan and the Pirates. There are some parts of Hook that are still watchable, but honestly, Julia Roberts would've been better served playing the crocodile than Tinkerbell.

  • March 3, 2011, 2:04 a.m. CST

    2003 and Hook

    by Dasinfogod

    "Hook" is arguably the weakest effort Spielberg has ever concocted. Nice little prologue with Maggie Smith as the elderly Wendy, but the Neverland stuff and that skateboarding Rufio bullshit makes "Welcome to Pooh Corner" look like fuckin' "Citizen Kane" in comparison. Don't be dissing the 2003 version - the only decent version of the story ever dramatized. Oh, and hello to Jason Isaacs!

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  • March 3, 2011, 6:15 a.m. CST

    "Hook was originally a musical..."

    by buggerbugger

    Peter's backing dancers being Pan's People? Ah, showing my age again.

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  • March 3, 2011, 8:55 a.m. CST

    HOOK

    by Aaron

    Loved it. I was in the target audience when it came out, of course. And that 2003 version was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Very painterly. That dude was a good Hook.

  • March 3, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST

    I don't mind the Prequel idea too much...

    by Lobanhaki2

    ...if they do it right, but they've got to have a better (and less joke-inducing) title than "Peter Pan Begins". Here's a free one: "Peter Pan: The Lost Boy" It's not that hard.

  • March 3, 2011, 11:19 a.m. CST

    "What the hell do you mean Peter Pan Peanut Butter Alert?!"

    by Josh

  • March 3, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Fox's Peter Pan and the Pirates

    by Han Cholo

    I loved that cartoon. It was very well done and it captured the essence of Peter Pan perfectly. If anything, they should make a movie based off that cartoon as it was the next best thing to a prequel to the book.

  • March 3, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST

    By prequel, I meant sequel

    by Han Cholo

    Oh and Tim Curry was perfectly awesome as the voice of Hook.

  • March 3, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST

    emeraldboy

    by AsimovLives

    Not just with her, but with movie stars, period. Though he never said anything public about it, he also found it tiring to work with williams and Hoffmann. Spielberg got so tired of working with movie stars, he only broke his promise 3 tiems by reworking with Harrison ford, Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks (who was already a close friend of Spielberg before he actually became big thanks to BIG). Really, just check out Spielberg's career, and notice how few big stars are actually in his movies, even in main roles.

  • Until CRYSTAL SKULLFUCK, that was the movie from Spielberg i had no problem declaring it a bad movie. Even LOST WORLD is merely banal and trite. HOOK was the bad Spielberg movie. Then he made CRYSTAL SKULLFUCK. Well, asfer SKULLFUCK, HOOK doesn't look as terible as it used to me, but it's still a movie that i have very little positive things to say about it. But at least it's not SKULLFUCK.

  • March 3, 2011, 2:35 p.m. CST

    mattman

    by AsimovLives

    I'm trying to think of anything interesting in CRYSTAL SKULLFUCK, and i can't find one. CRYSTAL SKULLFUCK is wholesome failure. The only interesting thing about it may be how much they missed the mark. how much they missed the mark. As much as Michael Bay missed in Pearl Harbor, and that's a lot, baby!

  • March 3, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST

    For the most part, I'm done with big budget event movies

    by SithMenace

    The only way to see anything original is to watch smaller, character driven films. I'll still watch a few, like Spider-Man, Batman and Super 8, but I'm kind of just done with soul-less unoriginal rehashes.

  • March 3, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST

    david cloverfield

    by AsimovLives

    Robin Williams prancing around was not supposed to make you uncomfortable, it was supposed to be a crowning momentof awesome for the character and the audiences as well, it was a moment supposed to ravel with. But because the movie is so badly conceived from start to finish, it all just wrong absolutly wrong. The basic mensage of the movie is "act irresponsible adn childish and you will be alright, regain your hot trophy wife and your kids affection". As a story about an adult learning his way in the world, it's beyond immature and irresponsible. and i watch that movie and i can tell, froma distance, how forced Spielberg must have felt making it. I can tell that Spielberg's heart was not in it. He no longer believed it anymore, all that Peter Pan stuff. He was already the man who years later made SCHINDLER'S LIST. And it was actually SCHINDLER'S LIST that really reinvigorated him as a filmmaker, and not the infantille juvenalia of HOOK or even JURASSIC PARK.

  • March 3, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST

    sithmenace

    by AsimovLives

    Of all the few blockbusters you now elect to watch, why SUPER 8? Why you decide to chose a movie made by one of the worst filmmakers alive? Certainly you cna find soem other more meritous blockbuster other then one made by the Jar Jar. I know it's hard to look for one, but it's not impossible, you just have to pay atention. You want some help?

  • March 3, 2011, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Lost World had its flaws, sure...

    by SmokingRobot

    But it had DINOSAURS. VELOCIRAPTORS FUCKING EATING PEOPLE. DINOSAURS, FUCKERS. And Julianne Moore. That puts my ass in a chair right there. And yes, 'Hook' was a terrible movie.

  • March 3, 2011, 5:01 p.m. CST

    "You're doing it, Peter! You're playing with us!"

    by kidicarus

    Hook is one of the greatest movies of my childhood. May Rufio live in our hearts forever!

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  • March 3, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST

    My kids adore the 2003 film...

    by workshed

    ...maybe because they've grown up with it.

  • March 3, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Hook = Crazy Fail. 2003 = Win.

    by menacingphantom

  • March 3, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    I didn't state it strongly enough

    by menacingphantom

    So here it is: In France there is a rod that is kept at a constant temperature and which serves as the universal standard for precisely how long a meter is. Hook is that for movies. It is the "1" on the scale of one to ten. It's just science.

  • March 4, 2011, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Errrr this film has allready been made. Its called Neverland

    by TheFunkyEnigma

    And here be the trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSgXvQbuljs&feature= related get rid of the last space

  • March 5, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST

    The Lost World

    by dukeroberts

    That movie is not that bad. In fact, if it weren't for Jeff Goldblum's "precocious" gymnast daughter it might be considered pretty damn good. She was cloyingly bad, like Cousin Oliver on The Brady Bunch bad. There are some awesome scenes in that movie. When the RV is hanging off of the cliff and they slam against the glass, the glass crack tendrils spreading with each tiny movement. Awesome! T-Rex in San Diego, has a late night snack of dog on leash. Super! The scene where we get the overhead shot of the raptors tearing off through the high brush, and you just see the plants going down and trails being made. Cool. I wish Spielberg had made Jurassic Park III. I can't remember a damn thing about that movie. And Hook.....ick. Peter Pan is a boy who never grows up, so why do we see him as an adult? Who wants to see "What if Peter Pan grows up?" It sucked, but this "Peter Pan Begins" idea may suck just as bad. Oh! In the animated Peter Pan sequel, Return to Neverland, there is one beautiful scene at the end....years after the events of the original film, Peter has gone on an adventure with Wendy's children. The children have just returned, and Wendy looks out the window and sees Peter. Peter sees her. "Wendy?", he asks. Beautiful little scene, but it might have been better had they just looked at each other, her with near tear-filled eyes and he with a look of recollection on his face, and a smile, no words spoken. Sometimes words are not necessary.

  • March 5, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Indy 4

    by dukeroberts

    I enjoyed it in the theater. I even dressed up in full-on geek Indiana Jones gear to go see it on opening day. I took the day off from work! I saw it twice. After some recollection, some things really bothered me. For one, Mutt. I hate when they bring kids into sequels. Leave out the damn kids! I didn't care for the ant scene. It was too fakey and dumb to boot. And the swingin' with monkeys scene. "Hey look! They have hair like Mutt! Hardy har har!" Lame. It was muddled, but aside from those things it was okay. I do also disagree with Indy getting married. Indy should not be tied down. I hope the next one has no Mutt, no Marion, no CGI (or at least very little, but especially no CGI creatures) and kicks ass. There should be lots of spiders in one scene. We haven't seen spiders yet, and spiders are the creepiest. And invite Sallah and the adult Short Round back.