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Will Superman KNEEL Before Viggo? (Geez, That Sounds Dirty...)

Published at: Feb. 25, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST

Nordling here.

Some interesting casting possibilities for Zack Snyder's SUPERMAN: MAN OF STEEL coming out of Hollywood Reporter tonight.  Seems Christopher Nolan and Snyder are looking for someone to play the villain, and they may be thinking that Viggo Mortensen would fit the bill.

Right now Mortensen is negotiating to be in Universal's SNOW WHITE AND THE HUNTSMAN, but if that doesn't happen Snyder and Nolan would like to scoop him up to play that villain we're all going to have to kneel before eventually, General Zod.  So far he's just a "person of interest", which makes him sound like he's being sought for questioning in a crime, and no talks have taken place.  But if this article is correct, it does look like we're getting Zod as the villain, which is fine by me.  I even had an ad campaign in my head if Zod was to appear.  Could you imagine billboards across the country, with just a simple word on them in capital letters, white against black - "KNEEL."  Then later someone could spraypaint the Superman S on them.  Yeah, it's silly as hell.  Just a thought.

This isn't nearly a done deal yet, of course, but Mortensen as Zod would definitely be damn cool.  What say you Talkbackers?  Mortensen as Zod, or do you have someone else in mind?

Nordling, out.

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  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST

    the s sprayed on the words KNEEL

    by saint seiya

    would be fukin awesome

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:31 p.m. CST

    He eez Viggo!

    by Amazing Maurice

    You ahr leik ze buzzing ov fliez to eehm!

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Came for the Ghostbuster 2 reference

    by _Venkman

    Is leaving satisfied.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Viggo is a cool cat.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    And one of the few men that work on Hollywood films that don't have to dig too deep to play a bad motherfucker. Plus, he's just a cool-ass dude. I'd love to buy Viggo a drink sometime, shoot the shit. Maybe do some fishing...a little knitting ('cause I'd bet good money Viggo could knit like a mad bastard, and STILL be manlier than any of us).

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Well for one, he has the voice for Zod, second..

    by LowDevil

    He is a fantastic character actor, but can he pull off Zod?? What would he be wearing??

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST

    I DID IT

    by bakesalot

    Here....I was bored http://i.imgur.com/ExOxJ.jpg

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:46 p.m. CST

    A curious sort of life form.

    by MaxCalifornia.

    Viggo as Zod...I'm not really feeling it. Thanks to Terence, Zod is firmly implanted as British in my view.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Same Old Story- Give us something different!

    by TheMaskedSombrero

    Now don't get me wrong, Viggo is the man. However why can't they do a more original story using Brainiac instead of recycling the Zod storyline!! At least thank god it is not another Superman vs. Luthor story!!!

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:51 p.m. CST

    bakesalot

    by Nordling

    That's totally awesome. Can I put it in the article?

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:52 p.m. CST

    sure

    by bakesalot

    as long as Warner Bros doesnt come after me. :)

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Ron Perlman!

    by Juggernaut125

    Ron Perlman should be Zod.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Viggo/Zod works for me.

    by tylerzero

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Good casting but BAD choice!

    by You Have MY Voice

    I don't want to see Zod as the big villain for a while. I'm OK with Luthor as long as he's not THE villain. And I feel you have to build up to Darkseid, he can't be the villain right out of the gate because it's all downhill from there. But why the holy hellfuck can't we have Brainiac? Or Mongul and Warworld? Bizarro and CADMUS? Hell, I'd take Doomsday before Zod right now! That's not to say revisiting Zod should be out of the question. Just not the first play from a reboot. I'm OK with eventually getting to him, and Viggo is inspired casting that should be considered. But can we start with maybe a villain who hasn't been used yet...?

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:56 p.m. CST

    I'd rather see Jude Law as Zod....

    by Jobacca

    Of course,I would have rather seen him as Adrian Veidt in WATCHMEN and we all see how that worked out. As long as Matthew Goode doesnt get the part,I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Thank fuck that's not the real poster!

    by Jaster

    Scared me for a second there! I'm OBVIOUSLY super-down with Zod as the villain.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:01 p.m. CST

    We all know how this is going to go...

    by Jobacca

    First film-Zod Sequel-Luthor Third Movie-Zod and Luthor 4th Movie-Richard Pryors ghost 5th Movie-REBOOT!!!!(with Luthor and Zod)

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:03 p.m. CST

    @jobacca

    by bakesalot

    It will be CHRIS TUCKER!!!

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Viggo will be great as Zod, bu-u-u-t...

    by luke_lymon

    I was not wanting to see Zod in this reboot of Superman. I would like to see Superman build some credibility as the man who deserves to be Superman before he gets into beating up villains from outer space no matter which part of space they might be from. Being the guy who actually has to overcome natural disasters and crime would be a good way to introduce some special effects that might otherwise be unappreciated because we have to also focus on the alien evils that come to haunt the man of steel. I hope they don't get in a rush to stuff so damn much down our throats at once. But by all means, I think Viggo is the right man for the job if we have to have Zod

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST

    The Poster should be labeled as Not Real

    by kibbled

    I thought that was the official movie poster until I red the comments.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST

    @rise_of_fett

    by bakesalot

    I did it in like 10 mins man! SHEESH...everyone is a critic! ;)

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST

    @you_have_my_voice

    by luke_lymon

    didn't see your post, but I like your thoughts :)

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:05 p.m. CST

    @bakesalot, I'm not dissing your work

    by Jaster

    It just doesn't look polished enough for a real poster and that screwy "S" had me worried they were messing with the sheild. For something someone threw together in a few minutes just to see what the vibe would be, it looks great.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST

    The Smallville 2-hour Movie, series finale has..

    by jazzylg

    Darkseid as the villain, had Zod last season. The Smallville movie will be better than zack's movie!

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    RE: Superman Villains

    by bakesalot

    Lets face it, the studio is going to stay in the comfort zone. Many of Superman's villains are odd, and even more are less known. Everyone knows Luthor. Brainiac maybe...but hey "wasnt Zod in the second film". They want to make money off a comic book. A comic book that has a couple hundred thousand readers a month. They want millions of people to buy tickets, merchandise, and blurays. THEY MUST HAVE BUY IN.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Hollywood is full of shit

    by Phategod100

    They Hire a director and say they want to go a new route for Superman instead of rehashing what Donner did like Singer. But now there telling the same story he did with Zod

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Why Zod, why!?!

    by Kissmykiester

    Someone mentioned Brainiac, there's Metallo, Bizarro and a host of other interesting characters but we're back with Zod. Might as well have Bryan Singer do the sequel.

  • Instead of a rehash

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Terrance Stamp was cool, not Zod

    by BaronMunchies

    I am sick of the Mirror Matches in superhero movies. Spiderman 3, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk... Two superfast, superstrong humanoids fighting one another is not compelling. Superman is at once the most heartwarming character (All Star Superman) and DC's story with the most far-reaching consequences (Death of Superman series). I'm starting to regret that we didnt get Tim Burton's Superman; it would have been suprising at the very least.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Give us a Superman villain we haven't seen on the big screen

    by Jet Jaguar

    Putting in Zod would make it feel like a rehash of Superman II. Give us someone like Brainiac, Metallo, or Bizarro (Save Darkseid for the sequel). Someone who can physically hurt Superman, without removing his status as the sole survivor of Krypton. And keep Lex Luthor but make him the corporate tech mogul, not the real estate-obsessed goofball of the Donner-Singer series. Don't make Luthor the main focus villain of the first film. Make him appear good, but Superman gradually discovers that Luthor is really the one pulling the strings.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Jude Law?

    by nman45

    I don't know. Kinda trite, I'll admit, but Law looks a bit like Stamp & I think he's due to play a good villain.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST

    By making Zod the villian they just made the movie more padestian

    by Phategod100

    Now how many people will compare it Superman II the same way they did with Superman Returns.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Zod better have Ursa

    by Larry Knowles

    No Ursa...no Zod. Harry, please return b

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:36 p.m. CST

    NEWS FLASH! Brainiac was in Superman III!

    by Jaster

    I mean obviously they severely fucked with it, but that was Brainiac at the end. Bizarro was inj Superman IV until his scenes were cut. You can check them out on the Superman IV DVD. I frankly don't think Superman's villains are very good so they should just chuck them all and start over with new ones for the films.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Terence Stamp is Zod. . .

    by Rik J.

    And he is also Mehrunes Dagon. . . but that is another story. I love Viggo Mortensen, but as Zod, I'd have to see it before I made a judgment.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:41 p.m. CST

    I don't understand the poster

    by Toe Jam

    Why is the S spray-painted? Is Superman some sort of graffiti artist? Does he lead some sort of underground resistance? Methinks you liked "The Dark Knight" marketing pieces a little too much. Your idea for the poster makes no sense at all. Sorry.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Zod? Really? Great another re-tread!

    by darthSaul666

    I'm hoping Zod is a rumor.. If this film is a retread I'll skip this one. We need Mongul, or Brainiac, someone that's not fucking retread!

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Ugh, ZOD??!

    by LHombreSiniestro

    Don't get me wrong, Zod was great in Superman 2, but this may be the last Superman movie we'll ever see. Can we at LEAST see a living, walking BRAINIAC?

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Or for a trailer...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...several lines of text that appear on a black background accompanied by ominous musical stings: U.S. Naval Task Force sunk in the Pacific, all hands lost... American nuclear deterrence destroyed overnight, all missiles gone... Massive quake destroys Coast City, entire metropolis slides into the sea... Quick cut scenes of unbelievable destruction all across the world. Cut to scene of gigantic burning word cut across miles of the wheatfields of the American Midwest, it reads only, "Surrender". More scenes of destruction. Scene of mother and child surrounded by smoking ruins, kneeling to pray. Mother looks up as shadows cross her face and whispers, "Dear God..." Fade to black, then to Viggo's totally evil, megalomaniacal, smirking face as he sneers a single word, "Zod." Quick cuts of Superman fighting the Kryptonian villains, more titanic destruction, zoom in on Superman's "S" shield, fade to black Text: Superman: Man of Steel. Summer 2012.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:51 p.m. CST

    New villains fucking please!!

    by darthwaz1

    Follow the Batman routine, bring back an old villain for part 2 if you need to..but for the first one give the audience somethiing new!! What the fuck? General Zod seriously? He's not even one of Superman's cooler enemies in the comics.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Really? Zod again?

    by Chewtoy

    Way to tread old ground.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:54 p.m. CST

    This is why all the superman movies fucking suck.

    by eggssupreme

    No threatening villains. Nothing cool to look at. This is gonna be the next episode of "Heroes"

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 9:55 p.m. CST

    That S looks like the Superman Kingdom Come Symbol

    by Jesiah

    Didn't they, as in Snyder, say he's going to be older than what we're used to? If that's true, than I think it's really cool that the Superman Kingdom Come symbol, complete with the futuristic S and black background instead of yellow, would be awesome.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Bad idea, bro

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    That shit would only work on nerds

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Great. The One Villain They've Already Done Right

    by Acquanetta

    Too bad they backed out of pitting Brainiac against Reeve's Superman, because then maybe the studio would consider him a viable option. I never would've thought that properties like the Transformers or a Disney theme park ride would end up being bigger movie franchises than Superman. Yet they are, because audiences actually enjoy over-the-top fantasies. Meanwhile, the one superhero that can do just about anything and has one of the most batshit crazy, intergalactic rogues galleries can't seem to get in the game. We got to see him lift a bunch of stuff and learn he had a kid. Now we're getting ready to watch him do a little soul-searching and face General Zod again.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:06 p.m. CST

    I just caught ALL STAR SUPERMAN

    by blackwood

    Never read the comic, and the film itself came across kind of slap-dash and schizophrenic, BUT it still managed to be one of the most interesting Superman stories I've ever seen. [Note: I grew up in the time of Image with a side order of Marvel so I haven't read many Superman stories.] I used to think the two Donner films did Superman as much as he could be done. I didn't hate RETURNS. It was just a bit dull. Poor Routh -- I thought he was great. Spacey really killed the film. And, you know, the script. But ALL STAR was the first time I felt really intrigued by Superman as a character. I'm going to check out the book -- anyone have any recommendations for the best Supes collections? I hear people mention RED SON a lot. I'm all up in Batman, and did a brief tour with the relaunch of Wonder Woman a few years ago -- does Superman have his "Dark Knight Returns"? Oh, and the movie. Uh. Yay. I guess. Now that I'm all into discovering Superman I doubt the film will be brave enough to tell an awesome story.

  • So Luthor could be saved for a possible sequel, when he is the U.S. President. As for Zod, I'm not against the idea of him as the baddie. I hope there's a second villain in this -- and I would say there probably will be, since the script is from David Goyer who has put in two villains for each of the Batman movies he's helped to write. So let's assume we more than likely will have Zod in this. Who will be the second villain? Doomsday?

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:13 p.m. CST

    CASEY AFFLECK or JUDE LAW as ZOD

    by masticators

    Casey Affleck could go all crazy-eyes with Zod, and really knock that role out of the park! Anyone see him in "Killer Inside Me"? He was fantastic in that. I like the suggestion someone made of Jude Law, too.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:14 p.m. CST

    He could wear the same costume he wore in The Prophecy!

    by rev_skarekroe

    Think of the money they'd save!

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Javier Bardem as Zod

    by masticators

    I'd love to see Javier's version of Zod, too, though I don't think he'd accept the role.

  • So how could Luthor be mentioned significantly in this movie yet not seen? They want this movie out in 2012 -- which will be a Presidential election year. Perhaps Luthor will in fact be running for President and we'll see his campaign posters ("LUTHOR 2012") throughout the movie. That would set things up for Luthor's appearance in a sequel and him being President would obviously raise the stakes for Superman in that story.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:21 p.m. CST

    I've never seen the Donner films

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    ...but even I think Zod's a bad idea. To me, it's not so much that he's been used before, but compared to the entire rogue's gallery that Supes has, there's many, many better choices. Aside from Darkseid, Luthor, and Brainiac as the obvious choices, even Parasite or Metallo would be better suited. Hell, even CADMUS with the ascension of Luthor as President would be better. But that's just me. Although, seeing Viggo being considered in this movie is fantastic. The man is an actor that simply excels in every role he's been in. I haven't seen his entire filmography, but even in his lower profile stuff like A Perfect Murder, or A History of Violence, the man just brings awesomeness to the table. And he was good as Aragorn too.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:22 p.m. CST

    It's called the man of steel

    by Adelai Niska

    So the villain should really be metallo

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:23 p.m. CST

    TERENCE STAMP TERENCE STAMP TERENCE STAMP

    by circletimesquare

    Terence Stamp! He was the original, let him reprise the role

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Love it! Also they should use that poster...

    by Andrew Coleman

    The idea of Superman being an under dog that society starts rooting for would be amazing. Think about how cynical we've become as a society. If Superman existed today most people would flame and hate him. Imagine though a worst dude coming into power and society backs Supes again. Would be cool. If this rumor is true they have won me already because Viggo would be great.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Sorry Vig, but Terrance Stamp owns that role.

    by cookylamoo

    Like every other part he's ever played.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:27 p.m. CST

    as much as I do genuinely love Viggo

    by TheSeeker7

    Pretty much immediately after I first heard of the possibility of Zod being the villain many many weeks ago, I pictured Jude Law. He's a fine actor, and I think he even (at least) slightly resembles Terrence Stamp, at least has sort of similar bone structure in his face.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST

    ahh, that's what I get for posting before reading

    by TheSeeker7

    I see I'm far from the first person to bring up Law :)

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:29 p.m. CST

    I would kneel before Terrance Stamp

    by cookylamoo

    The dude never disappoints.

  • Same ole sh!t I see.

  • Darkseid has an entire planet and a ton of Super powered minions to bust Supes chops until them two go at it. I have no idea why Zod is being used yet again.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Charlie Sheen as Zod!

    by Ivorkite

    Just to make up for Jon Cryer being in the series.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Fuck you, phucko

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Zod is one badass black mother fucker. Not all of us are white and 30 something.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:53 p.m. CST

    If this turns out to be true, FUCKIN' A!

    by Troy McNamara

    No disrespect to Terence Stamp but casting Viggo Mortensen as Zod would be like one of the best casting decisions I've EVER seen! He's one of the absolute BEST actors of his day at the very LEAST and he makes anything worth watching even if you don't think it has any reason to be seen! He has a very strong head about choosing projects and I believe that a role like Zod in a Superman reboot produced by Christopher Nolan would be the exact kind of superhero movie role he would take! So, I'm all for it! Sign him the fuck up, PLEASE!

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Re: Rise_of_Fett

    by brocknroll

    That robot at the end of Superman III wasn't Brainiac. It was simply a Cyborg. When Ross and Lorelei were escaping from the computer machine, Vera was pulled into it turning her into a machine instead. In the original script for "Superman III" Brainiac was written as a character for that scene, but Warner Bros. ordered the writers to take Brainiac out of the movie, they didn't like the direction. Supergirl was also originally supposed to be in "Superman III", but she was written out too. Get your facts right before posting things please.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Vigo the Carpathian > Viggo Mortensen

    by hegele

    the scourge of carpathia the sorrow of moldavia... command you!

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Viggo could match the Terence Stamp Zod easily

    by brocknroll

    I can totally see why Snyder and Nolan would want Viggo. Viggo is a red head, that's the problem. With a good hairstylist and good make up artist, they could make Viggo match the Terence Stamp, General Zod quite easily. Why are people complaining about General Zod? Would you rather see them use Lex Luthor again? Viggo's a great casting choice.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:10 p.m. CST

    If the Boyz n tha hood dont get it, is that really a bad thing?

    by Sean Finnesey

    Half of them cant read anyway.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Bill Nighy as Zod.

    by Larry Knowles

    I like Viggo, but Bill Nighy would make a better Zod. Still need Ursa, tho. Also, I don't know the cannon, is Brainiac from Krypton? Could Zod and Ursa possibly bring Braniac along for the ride?

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST

    @Jobacca...bitch are you crazy

    by Majority

    Jude Law can suck a dick...and Mathew Goode was amazing as Adrien Veidt.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Viggo not menacing or angry or devious enough.

    by Larry Knowles

    He's just too calm. There needs to be a real desire for power beneath the surface of Zod. He needs to be seething with hatred for the sone of Jor-El. I don't see Ziggo bringing that to the table.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Viggo's eyes are too sympathetic.

    by Larry Knowles

    His eyes don't convey malice.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Great actor, wrong villain

    by Doctor Manhattan

    Viggo is a great actor, and plenty menacing. He was a savage when he needed to be in A History of Violence. But Brainiac would have been the far better villain for these modern times/this early reboot of Superman's life.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:25 p.m. CST

    No One With Good Taste Wanted BJ Routh Back

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    That's why, you fucking moron.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Zod is boring without Ursa by his side

    by Larry Knowles

    No Zod without Ursa please.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Zod: The original metrosexual!

    by Mel

    He should be in a Devil Wears Prada sequel

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Fear not!

    by edgardevice

    This is a Nolan production. There will be multiple villains.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Viggo better as Pa Kent

    by Larry Knowles

    Get someone else for Zod. Like Bill Nighy. Someone with real malice.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Jesus Tits, AICN ran a story confirming Zod back in OCT

    by Pop_aristocrat

    And again like a month ago. Do you guys forget your own posts that quickly?

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Here's why Zod is the villain:

    by hank henshaw

    It's the same reason Singer picked Luthor for Superman Returns. These Hollywood people (be it Singer, Nolan, Snyder or Goyer), all they know about Superman is what they've seen in the Chris Reeve Superman movies. I wonder if they think Nuclear Man should appear in the sequel... Seriously: Braniac, Mongul, Darkseid, Parasite, Metallo, Bizarro... hell, even Doomsday. Not good enough? Zod sucks ass.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:37 p.m. CST

    I ZOD AM VIGGO

    by Shubniggorath

    Bill Murray as Jimmy Olse... oh wait he hasn't read the script yet.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Why not Gus Gorman instead of Zod?

    by hank henshaw

    Or what about drunk-with-5 'clock-shadow-Superman as the bad guy? Either option is better than Zod.

  • What the fuck?? If they proved you can use a second tier villain and still make the story work, why not repeat that formula w/Superman??

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Just have Richard Donner direct the movie if you can't be original.

    by Thanos0145

    Now the Williams theme should definitely be used if they are using Zod and Ursa again. Why did Warner Bros form DC Entertainment if they aren't going to listen to the writers and artists who understand these characters?

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Brainiac would be more 21st century

    by smudgewhat

    Especially the wild depiction from All Star SupermaAm. Zod feels like they're low on ideas?

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Mini Superman vs Aragorn

    by CeejayNightwing

    Why they picked Henry Cavill over Joe Manganiello still boggles the mind but Cavill is one of the shortest guys to play the man of steel at only 6'1. He's way shorter than Joe Manganiello who's 6'5 and Christopher Reeves who was only an inch shorter than Joe at 6'4 as well as Brandon Routh who's 6'3. So I guess with Vigo Mortensen being a mere 5'11 they're gonna cast a bunch of short ass actors to play along Cavill to make his lack of super-height look more impressive.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Zod isn't bad but...

    by Sithtastic

    Does anyone really want to move Kal-El out of Donner land and do something different? While the first two films were near perfect, do people mean to tell me an epic hero like Superman can't have an epic villian? Am I to seriously believe we have to go down the multiple villian combo of Luthor/Zod again? Really? Why is it so terribly hard to go the Nolan route and have the first film set up a rogues gallery. Brainiac and Darkseid easily spring to mind as intergalactic villians at the very least worthy of a cameo. Metallo or Doomsday are good standbys for an all out brawl that still have compelling stories behind them to keep a conflict interesting. Keep Luthor in the shadows, manipulating things or perhaps go the Silver Age route and take him back to his evil scientist roots a la All Star. Why is this hard, Hollywood? Why so desperate to suck out all the potential a reboot should rightfully have?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Paul Bettany as Toyman

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    Yeah, that's right. I went there.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:07 a.m. CST

    What "Holiday" in 2012?

    by ReportAbuse

    Not very specific. Not allowed to say the C-word?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:12 a.m. CST

    No KNEELing

    by QuietMan297

    First off, bakesalot...great job. If you're not working in graphic design in some capacity, you should be. HOWEVER... ...I think/feel/sense/perceive that if there's going to be a new Superman movie, they need to completely break away from anything having to do with the Richard Donner movies. Much the same way that the Batman Nolanverse wiped the slate 100% clean of anything having to do with any of the previous movies, the same has to happen here: new actors, new theme music, and no carry-overs from what came before, INCLUDING Zod's famous catch-phrase. It's bad enough that it's going to be another origin story which will include Pa Kent (although it's not bad that Kevin Costner will be playing him). But the slate needs to be wiped clean. The new Superman movie needs very hard not to suck.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:31 a.m. CST

    TELL SUPERMAN I'M FUCKING COMING...!

    by MaxCalifornia.

    Terence Stamp should play Zod again, this time with LIMEY attitude.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Daniel Craig as Zod

    by george

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Viral campaign

    by MaxCalifornia.

    This would actually be a fun viral marketing campaign like they did with The Dark Knight. Have these mysterious "ZOD is your leader" and "Your possessions, your homes, and your very lives belong to ZOD" billboards and posters pop up out of nowhere, and then Zod himself on a billboard proclaiming "Is there no-one on this planet who can even challenge me?". Then slowly release the aforementioned "defaced" versions of them with the S logo sprayed on, and an underground web-based anti-Zod campaign complete with a "Where is Superman?" site with bogus, blurry sightings. Well anyway, food for thought. Oh and The Rock should totally play Nuclear Man.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Michael Clarke Duncan as Darkseid...

    by CeejayNightwing

    Michelle Monaghan as Lois Lane Mark Strong as Lex Luthor Katee Sackhoff as Mercy Rupert Grint as Jimmy Olsen Alec Baldwin as Perry White Hugo Weaving as Brainiac Joe Manganiello as Shazam Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as Black Adam Jude Law as General Zod Kate Beckinsale as Usra Vin Diesel as The Parasite That pretty much sorts out the casting for at least 4 or 5 movies. ;-)

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Re: Poster mock up

    by eveelcapitalist

    Ya'll need to make it clear that poster image is just a mock up. All my idiot friends are telling me, "Have you seen the new Superman poster?" And then they swear up and down that it's real no matter how much I tell them it aint. Fuck me, I need new friends. Anyway, it's pretty convincing, straight down to the uber-PC "Holiday 2012" release date. But it needs to be made clear that it's a fake, with credit to the creator. Jesus, don't people know how to do their fucking jobs around here anymore?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:55 a.m. CST

    'What "Holiday" in 2012?'

    by eveelcapitalist

    Saint Patrick's Day, I think. Maybe Independence Day, I'm not sure. I'll have to consult the Obami. I just paid my taxes, I think I might be able to get a few seconds with Him.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Viggo is inspired casting

    by thegrayghost

    Zod could very well work. If Begins/Dark Knight is any indication, they could have multiple villains just like those movies. Luthor as the corrupt corporate super genius with political aspirations, Zod could have a smaller role in helping in the telling of Krypton's demise, and Brainiac as the main villain. Didn't Brainiac shrink the Kandor and placed it in a bottle? So both villains had a role in Krytonian history, so it's not too big a stretch to have them all together in one story. The sequel could then go into Darkseid.

  • Zod ? Seriously ? Man, I can't even begin to imagine if Snyder tackles Braniac. But no... it's.... Zod. (yawn).

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 1:09 a.m. CST

    WE. WANT. A. NEW. VILLAIN. YOU. STUPID. CUNTS.

    by SilentP

    Well, all of us except Nordling apparently. WTF is wrong everyone who gets ahold of this franchise? Is it just that they've never read the comics? They've only seen the movies? THE MOVIES ARE BASED ON COMICS, GUYS. THE COMICS HAVE MORE VILLAINS THAN LUTHER AND FUCKING ZOD. JESUS CHRIST.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 1:29 a.m. CST

    I have something else in mind (not someone)...

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    How about NO Zod? What say you Hollywood? Ready to hold your nutsack and actually take a risk for once? NO ZOD STORYLINE! Zack Snyder, you're already disappointing me, dude. Really, really disappointing me.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 1:30 a.m. CST

    NO Luthor either!

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    You uninspired fucks!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Some good Zod

    by Darth Dean

    http://tinyurl.com/4ny2rdu

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:25 a.m. CST

    i suppose nobody mentioned a certain man named javier bardem?

    by JaredP

    i mean come on anton chigurgh as zod? how fucking awesome would that be? not that araogorn isn't a good choice but the mother fucker that scared the shit out of me in NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN would blow me out of the water off the radar and whatever the fuck

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:29 a.m. CST

    by JaredP

    i would rather see a new villain like darkseid or metallo but who knows? just wait and see

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:31 a.m. CST

    $200m movies need recognisable villains!

    by Pedro_Voted_For_Me

    Once again, they're not making this just to satisfy the comic book fan population! They need to be able to market it to as wide an audience as possible. If you nerds don't like it, why don't to ask your moms to raise your allowance and you all club together and make your Darkseid Braniac Supereman spit roast that you're all dying to see

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Yes, pedro...

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    They should just keep making the same movie over and over again, with the same two villains. After 33 years, audiences are still not ready for a new villain in a Superman movie. Yeah, you're right.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Paul Bettany

    by Ecto-1

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:18 a.m. CST

    JUDE LAW IS ZOD!

    by dailysportspages

    Cmon Nolan, its not that hard. Law is perfect for the role. The trades get details wrong all the time, its very possible that Viggo is being looked at for Lex Luthor. How awesome would that be? Its about time we got a fit Luthor, and not some bungling pudgy old dude. I loved the take the way Lex was presented in the new All Star Superman animated movie. Viggo could so pull that off.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:31 a.m. CST

    That poster should be the other around really

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    The Superman logo should be already there and "KNEEL" should be spray-painted over it in red. Anyway, I've no issues with Zod in this movie. Nobody complained about watching The Joker again, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

  • Pathetic.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Viggo's cool but . . .

    by Thall_Joben

    Superman has outstayed his welcome. This campaign would never work. Supes wouldn't tag he's far to wholesome/dull for that. Now if he died in the first two minutes of the movie and stayed dead, then I'd go see it.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:37 a.m. CST

    Superman VI: Safe and Boring

    by -Halfscan-

    "You'll believe a man can do everything you've already seen him do before!" <p>The character is starting to close in on 100years old, and all the studios can think do do is another origin story & Zod (or Luthor)? <p>Take a page from All Star Superman.. the character is iconic enough that his origin can be wrapped up in less than 2 minutes then give us something we have never fucking seen before for a change.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:38 a.m. CST

    It's a Shame Richard Pryor is dead, he would be great in this turd.

    by the Green Gargantua

    At least I would get a laugh! Avengers will own this movie.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:43 a.m. CST

    agreed with halfscan

    by chien_sale

    it seems like it will be safe and boring because Return tried to be arsty and people thought it sucked. now it will have more action but it will be pretty uninteresting and unoriginal.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:44 a.m. CST

    To be fair...Superman's villains suck.

    by A for Aristocrat

    He only really has Luthor and Brainiac. Darkseid got co-opted but he wasn't originally a Superman villain. Regardless, if they do a Zod movie and follow it with a Brainiac and Darkseid thats 9 years.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Isn't Zod a movie creation?

    by BenBraddock

    Did he even exist in the comics before "Superman - the Movie"? Why this fixation with what's already been done?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Viggo for Zod is a good choice

    by lv_426

    But why not do a new villain since this is supposed to be a remake/reboot of the Superman films. This just reminds me of the rumors for the next Star Trek possibly using Khan for the villain.

  • Larry, if you don't think that Viggo can portray menacing then i suggest that you check his performance as Lucifer in The Prophecy. And to maelstrom "I haven't seen the Donner films" zero, you sir have thirty six hours to watch those films or you will be forced to return your geek card. And the clock starts.......NOW!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:36 a.m. CST

    Nice!

    by JD Lee

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:44 a.m. CST

    Zod, but without the Studio 54 outfit

    by Tristan

    He should be in Kryptonian military uniform, looking like a nazi. Speaking of which, Christoph Waltz would make a fabulous Zod. He's probably over doing villains since his Green Hornet gig. If this is a movie about Kent deciding whether he should be Superman or not, I guess Zod turning up will do the job. But please, Braniac for one of these movies!! Or use a villain from Batman's rogue gallery. Wouldn't that be interesting?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:48 a.m. CST

    Mortensen brings very little to the table

    by brobdingnag

    in terms of range but he should be fine provided you don't put him in any scenes with any talented actors or that are intended to do anything other than move the plot forward.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:01 a.m. CST

    Also, All Star Superman is good?

    by brobdingnag

    You have got to be shitting me. SPOILERS: Lois and Lex both getting Superman's powers from a potion? Superman dying from too much sun (the thing that makes him powerful)? all the worst horse-shit fortress of solitude crap dredged up from the 50's - 70's like robot guards? Using his powers repeatedly right in front of Luthor while in his Clark Kent identity (Earthquake !!!!!!!). That movie was a poorly conceived and badly edited chaotic mess that injected very minor characters from the Superman mythos for no reason. I didn't read the comic series but the film is a turd.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:17 a.m. CST

    benbraddock

    by Tristan

    Yeah, Zod's been in the comics since '61. Not being a hardcore comic guy, I thought he was invented for the movies for years as well. Check out the Wiki page.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:19 a.m. CST

    CUT ALL TIES TO THE DONNERVERSE!!!!!!

    by deano velvet

    Seriously we might as well have the superman returns sequel. I have a funny feeling this film is going to fail. I don't want it too as i'm very much a big superman fan but I feel we need a complete change. Can't someone come in and have a new take on this material? The last incarnation to give us something that doesn't refer to the donnerverse is Lois and Clark! As a Superman fan i'm scared as Warner Bros are not going to keep making superman films if their not successfull. Fingers crossed the tv division get the ok to make smallville tv movies after it's over.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Why the bad guy from ghostbusters 2 to play Zod???? ;)

    by sam jacksons wig

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Mortensen brought a fork, spoon and a loaf of bread to the table....

    by sam jacksons wig

    ....but I had to give the bastard a knife. Fuck him!!!!!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Mortensens range is excellent.......

    by sam jacksons wig

    ......the very best thing and as evil as fuck in "Young Americans" when he is treating cock-er-nee chavs as dispensible toys...(" You're special....") ...portraying doomed dad in "The Road" to spectacular effect. Who didn't feel every weary mile trudged on his way to death? ...multi-layered in "Eastern Promises." Trying to bring down a Russian drug/whore empire whilst trying to protect Ki-rill...? Who wouldn't want to see him try and smash Kal-el? Just the right amount of menace.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:48 a.m. CST

    jim jam bongs

    by ChickenStu

    I love that suggestion! Luthor shouldn't be seen in the movie, only mentioned/hinted at, and maybe briefly seen only at the end! I think having him appear as the main villian in the sequel to this thing is a FANTASTIC idea! Also, I think Superman should find out about his origins in the sequel. The new first movie coming out should just be a kick ass Superman adventure, with him not really knowing much about himself. Just two hours of rip roaring action adventure. Use the sequel to bring in Luthor and the story of Krypton's destruction. That's workin'.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:49 a.m. CST

    sam jacksons wig - A: I think that guy's dead... and B...

    by ChickenStu

    Apparently he was a fucking asshole.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Why do you say these things?

    by BookhouseBoy

    When you know I will kill you for it!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:54 a.m. CST

    ceejaynightwing

    by David Cloverfield

    I agree with every single one of those casting ideas. Holy shit. Monoghan as Lois, Duncan as Darkseid... inspired choices.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Good casting

    by hallmitchell

    Alternative: Christoph Waltz as ZOD!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:55 a.m. CST

    deano velvet- cutting ties aint so easy.

    by sam jacksons wig

    We're constantly rehashing origin stories for the Ipod generation (see Xmen first class et al...) for them to TRY and have some kind of emotional buy in to the characters they unfortunately have not grown up with. There-in lies the issue. Where all that is required is a balls to the wall actioner pitting good vs evil, an inordinate amount of time is being spent on re-introducing key characters and giving them an "emotional arc" for others to connect to. Who needs that shit anymore? Unfortunately movie studios do- hooking you with a new spin, a new face and the promise of a "darker" take and then bludgeoning you to death with diminishing return sequels until the next inveitable reboot. Check the new Spiderman. They have sent him back to college. Does that mean that we will see him bitten by a radioactive spider AGAIN? I will be suprised if it is anything other. Give it another 10 years and Warners will be thinking of re-imagining Harry Potter. I shit you not. "Well, the first couple of movies were excellent for their time, but we feel that CGI and FX enable us to retell the story as we meant to blah blah blah blah blah...."

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:03 a.m. CST

    Who I'd cast:

    by ChickenStu

    Ray Liotta as Lex Luthor (Can't believe no one's thought of this) Kevin Bacon as Brainiac (Cause, why the hell not?) Patrick Stewart as Jor-El (Bit of an obvious choice, but you know it'll work) Robert De Niro as Perry White (This, and along with a reteam with Scorcese, could be just the thing to re-ignite DeNiro's career. And plus, I think he'd do it too...) Haley Joel Osment as Jimmy Olsen (About time this guy had a comeback. Movie and a part like this? PERFECT.) Kate Beckinsale as Lois Lane (She's hot, sassy, and plus, her being a little older than Cavill makes it more believable that he'd really want to bang her with nuclear proportions).

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:04 a.m. CST

    I'm calling it right now

    by kwisatzhaderach

    This movie is going to be fucking terrible.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:07 a.m. CST

    maelstrom_zero

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Um, you really need to see Superman: The Movie. Like, now.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:18 a.m. CST

    Viggo was Nolans first choice to play Ras Al Ghul

    by elsewhere

    Unfortunately that didnt work out, so I guess Zod is the next best thing. I'm still not crazy about having Zod in another Superman movie, but whatever.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Brainiac, a bit of Luther, Kandor, Krypto.

    by L. Ron Bumquist

    and some skyscraper sized robots. Is it really so hard for fucks sake.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:30 a.m. CST

    WHAT SAY YOU??

    by PoppaRotzi

    Oh, God... No....ZOD.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:41 a.m. CST

    so ZOD is the villain? i thought this was going to be an

    by KilliK

    ORIGINAL movie and not a yet again rehash of the classic ones? jesus

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Billy Zane for Lex

    by KilliK

    i saw the bald greek last night in a b-movie playing an evil mastermind,and the guy has the perfect mixture of charisma and menace.Billy Zane,DO IT.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:45 a.m. CST

    Waltz for ZOD? FUCK YEAH

    by KilliK

    make it so.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Bill Hader as Zod

    by Bobo_Vision

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:11 a.m. CST

    HOLY SHIT THAT POSTER IS AWESOME

    by BringingSexyBack

    Snyder's the man. And Viggo definitely has the balls to play Zod hardcore. My excitement has ramped up.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:12 a.m. CST

    WHICH HOLIDAY IN '12? CHINESE NEW YEAR?

    by BringingSexyBack

    We need specifics, Zack.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST

    juggernaut125 Perlman should be Zod...And DREDD!!

    by marineboy

    Dredd producers f*cked up I think - Big mistake...HUGE MISTAKE! Perman for Zod sounds cool tho ;)

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Another reason why Superman may fail to work?

    by sam jacksons wig

    Erm..... he's superman. Not much really hurts him does it? Look at the backlash that Brian Singer received when he decided that the man of steel needed to tone down on the good ol' red white n blue, and concentrate on the love angle to make him more "human." What's the way to hurt the man of steel? Hurt those who he loves..... ...didn't really work did it? To make Superman seem vunerable, throw a big bad the likes of Doomsday at him- not really well known, but they did batter each other to death infront of the daily planet, and it could be handled JUST right to lead into a sequel of sorts with a mother fucker of a cliff hanger.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:16 a.m. CST

    I'd rather see Superman fight a crack addiction

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    than Zod again.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Make mine Michael Sheen

    by Patrick

    He's played a super powered character in Underworld, a terrorist in Unthinkable, and a politician in The Queen. Physically a similar presence to Stamp, and on-screen just as compelling.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:32 a.m. CST

    All Star Supes comic definitely worth a read

    by smudgewhat

    Some things work, some don't, but it's actually interesting and strange. Usually Supes is so flat and predictable, but this is much more trippy. I enjoyed it, even with some reservations. The artwork is fantastic either way.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Definetly Viggo not Ron perlman for these reasons....

    by drunkenmonkey73

    Ron perlman or any big action guys wont work for me as been Zod and the powers he has has nothing to do with physical size. I do like the sound of Viggo or Sean Bean but that broad Yorkshire accent may be a problem, aye up Superman

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 7:47 a.m. CST

    KATE BECKINSALE AS URSA

    by BringingSexyBack

    She looks good in leather.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Jason Statham as Darkseid. He's a mean looking dude, it would work.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Jennifer Connelly as a sexy Lois. Prauge as Metropolis. Paul Bettany as Chaucer ('cause he's fucking awesome as Chaucer)

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Viggo's eyes are too sympathetic.

    by Larry Knowles

    His face lacks any real malice needed for this role. Viggo would make a better Jonathan Kent.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Zod is good, Zod is great

    by Larry Knowles

    But you sir, are no General Zod.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Reverse the poster

    by Mike Smith

    I think it would work better if the poster was of the Superman logo and the word "kneel" was spray painted.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:44 a.m. CST

    This will be Superman: Earth One

    by Bubba Gillman

    Only with Zod as the villain instead of Alice Cooper.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Do you actually think...

    by richievanderlow

    That Nolan's script will tap into that iteration of the Zod character? The one that wants everyone to kneel before him? The poster is a cool idea and all, but I don't see Zod being portrayed as he was in Superman II.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:50 a.m. CST

    furst it was Zod - then it wasnt - now it is again?????

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    damn....when was zod confirmed as the villain???? viggo is awesome...........but seriously - FUCK zod

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:50 a.m. CST

    You nerds just do not get it, do you?

    by Lemure_v2

    Want to know why you can't have Darkseid, Metallo, Kandor, Krypto, Darkseid, Warworld, Bizarro, etc etc etc? Because this movie is not being made for comic book nerds. If they want to make money it has to appeal to EVERYONE. Mainly people who DON'T READ COMICS. It has to be EASILY ACCESSIBLE. Zod and Lex are just that. Make it too "comic-booky" and the core audience is turned off. Metallo? A cyborg with a kryptonite heart? Yeah, right, what century is this set in? Sounds like something that belongs in Smallville. Won't work with those who don't read comics. Please try to understand, it'll make the talkbacks sound less like whiny nerds. You can bitch back at me all you like so long as you remember that I'm right.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:56 a.m. CST

    MORGAN FREEMAN AS RONALD REAGAN

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:02 a.m. CST

    that promo would be more Smallville-ish than huge movie

    by alienindisguise

    as much as people wanna piss and moan about smallville, at least they made attempts to bring in most of supermans villains since it seems no film producer has the nuts to bring in a big screen Darkseid or Doomsday. And to those saying it has to be accessible to a mainstream audience, that's bullshit. Look at the green lantern. A mainstream audience won't have any fucking idea what's going on with that shit but dc didn't negate characters of that franchise so they shouldn't do it for the biggest character on their roster. If a few dipshits don't get it, so fucking what?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:08 a.m. CST

    @ alienindisguise

    by Lemure_v2

    You're right about Green Lantern but it hasn't yet been released, it could flop. I wish you were right, but DC/Warners are not going to take any risks with one of their flagship characters, not to mention 200million. Batman's easier because the villains are all "psychotically" evil, rather than "superpower" evil.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST

    I think you all might be forgetting one wee thing...

    by AT

    Viggo? In a Superman movie? Or a superhero movie of any kind? I seriously doubt he would actually do it. I mean, I guess everyone has their price, really... but I would be shocked if he were actually into doing this. We aren't exactly talking about a character with oceans of depth here.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Do Supe's Origin the same way the AllStar Superman Comic did

    by Jet Jaguar

    "Doomed Planet. Desperate Scientists. Last Hope. Kindly Couple. Superman." Short and concise. Don't spend the first hour on the origin story. It could even all be explained in the opening credits, in a similar fashion to THE INCREDIBLE HULK and SPIDER-MAN 2. Regardless of whether or not the iPod generation doesn't know Supe's origin, movie audiences in general are starting to tire of superhero origin stories. But I also kinda like creepythinmanlive's idea of a Kryptonian dictatorship preventing people from leaving the planet.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:26 a.m. CST

    No Zod please.

    by Chris

    Batman Begins had two second tier villians and it worked. I'm all for Luthor being a billionaire running for president, not seen but covered by the Daily Planet. Origin story, if needed, could be handled in the opening credits. I want the first third of the movie with no supervillians at all. Take some hints from the animated series.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:36 a.m. CST

    The villians are Brainiac and Lex.

    by UltimaRex

    With possible cameo parts for Intergang plus Zod and co. I have known this for a year. Wake up.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Even if Zod is in this who is to say he is the main villian.

    by MRJONZ72

    Could be a small role or possibly setting something up in a sequel? Just waiting until I hear an official word.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Fucking Zod!

    by mastermold

    I loved the General Zod character and Viggo would make for an interesting Zod. But like so many people have already said, doing Zod is a rehash. It's sad - how many Superman movies have been done and we still have seen the best of Superman's rogue gallery (Brainiac, Darkseid, Mongul, etc). Besides, having extra Kryptonians dilutes the uniqueness of Superman's character. One of the things that makes Superman so interesting is that he's the sole survivor of a extinct species. I never likes the idea of introducing so many extra "survivors" in the comic books and as someone already said, the first movie should be to establish Superman as Superman and as being unique. At least they did that in the original Superman movies.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:47 a.m. CST

    @ ultimarex

    by Lemure_v2

    Tell us how you came by this info - considering nothing has been officially announced yet. Please. Is it from the same source that said Tom Hardy was going to play Hugo Strange?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Why in the hell...

    by Hipshot

    Are they referencing Superman movies, all five or six of 'em, rather than 60 years of Superman comics, covering a couple of thousand stories? It makes no sense.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Thanks Neuromantik

    by BenBraddock

    I did just that - had my eyes opened! Still think that resurrecting him for the Superman re-boot is an incredibly stilted idea

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:51 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    Yeah, watching Superman's on my to-do list. Ironically enough, I love geek film in general, but I never saw many of the classics of the 80s--partly because I was young at the time, and also because I had very conservative parents that didn't think movies were good for kids. So that translated into me never seeing films like Robocop, Ghostbusters, Superman, Back to the Future, Aliens, Mad Max, and a bunch of other films that are classics, but I never ended up watching. Hell, I only recently saw Predator for the first time about half a year ago. That film was fantastic. But yeah. Eventually I'll sit down and get through all these classic films. I've crossed Predator and Blade Runner of my list; I'm trying to work through the Shining and Mad Max right now.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:54 a.m. CST

    @ maelstrom_zero

    by Lemure_v2

    Genuinely interested, what's your favourite film?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10 a.m. CST

    One word: Milonakis.

    by venvariants

    That's right, you heard correctly.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Viggo is THE FUCKING MAN

    by golden tribw

    He's got presence on a level with Clint Eastwood, Laurence Olivier, Anthony Hopkin,s and Colm Feore.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Ra's Al Ghul and Dr. Octopus were far from household names.

    by hank henshaw

    Saying that they need to use Zod again, cause other villains are not recognizable enough, or too comic-book-y is bullshit. Average Joe Public only knows the Batman rogue gallery (Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler) cause of the Adam West show, and no other superhero has had that benefit. Still, that didn't prevent Hollywood from using "unknown" bad guys like Dr. Ock, Scarecrow, Ra's Al Ghul, Two-Face, Bane, Poison Ivy, Sandman, etc. in movies with 200 million dollar budgets.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    @Hank Henshaw

    by Lemure_v2

    Scarecrow and Ra's were massively toned down for film, and Two-Face was barely in it. Bane, Poison Ivy and Sandman were in films that bombed critically. That says a lot. Doc Ock worked because the character/film was well written and Spider-Man is more suited to "comic book". But why do you think they're using Lizard in the new film? It's a riff on Jekyll and Hyde: accessibility. Darkseid, for instance, will NOT translate easily to film or Joe Public. You can carry on wasting your time with arguing the fact or you can accept it.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Why ?

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Why can't we have Mark Pillow recreate his famous Nuclear Man...genius character backed up by Shakespearian standard acting...it can't fail. The worry is that nobody seems to be able to think up anything new to make a Superman film worth doing. If you can't make a decent go of it why bother.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:48 a.m. CST

    lemure_v2

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    Honestly, I don't know. . .it's probably a tie between Empire Strikes Back and The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly. I remember watching Good/Bad/Ugly for the first time like. . .5-6 years ago? I was blown away by the whole thing. Everything about that film is pitch perfect, from the way shots are framed, to the musical score, to the cinematography, to the characters. And everything looks gritty and grungy and real. I mean, every time I watch a western now, I keep expecting it to be like Good/Bad/Ugly--except it turns out being different, and I end up being disappointed. Hell, I was disappointed in 3:10 to Yuma, Unforgiven, and True Grit just because it simply didn't compare to Sergio Leone's classic, even though I recognized they were good films. And then I love Empire, but that's pretty self explanatory since every self-respecting geek loves Star Wars. But aside from those 2 films, most of my film taste skews towards recent stuff, just because that's mostly what I end up watching--mostly anything post-2000.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Is Nordling running the site now?

    by SK229

    Seriously, is it just me, or does it feel like every single article is coming from him now. He's a good writer, it just seems that he came out of nowhere and now contributes a shitload here. Could he be Devin's gentle alter-ego?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST

    STOOOOOOOOPID!

    by drdoom_v

    Wouldn't it be cool if Viggo was Zod? uhhh hell no! Are you retarded? Yes!!! lets re-hash old villians from the good Superman movies! Because it worked so well in Superman returns.---I do hope the sarcasm is coming accross but there are so many retards who don't get it I have to make sure! (You know the retards that think bringing back General Zod is a good idea!) Here's an idea for a villian: Brainiac, Bizzaro--should I go on? Or can I stop there? Ohh thats right creativity is dead now right---we have to retread on stuff that has already been done--then act so surprised when it falls flat-- Forget the Jews Mel--- It's the retards the run hollywood. (yes the small "H" is on purpose--retards!)

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST

    sk229

    by 2LeggedFreak

    I am just pleased that Nordling now has his own black text box. He spent so long sucking up to these creeps but not being given his black text box that it was getting embarrassing to watch. Now he's made the leap from official lickspittle first class to active member, I for one could not be more pleased for him. Its fantastic to see that if you are able to ditch any self respect and creep like crazy to a fat ginger Jabba the Hutt clone, you too can be a contributor to a site that is now a laughing stock. Well done Nordling

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11 a.m. CST

    That's a highly retarded poster

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    Spray-painted 'S' symbol? What is this, some lame attempt to get to the retarded urban crowd with their vandalistic tendencies? This isn't a lame rap movie.

  • Yes, taking on new villians will take balls. Which I thought both gentlemen have. Proven wrong with Zod as the villian, though. Sigh.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Nobody says Superman will actually meet Zod in this movie

    by Snookeroo

    It may just be back-story set up for a sequel, like in the first Donner movie.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST

    "Spider-Man is more suited to "comic book" "

    by hank henshaw

    ... and Superman is not? Superman is what then, a docu-drama? I never said Poison Ivy, Bane, or Sandman were well done in the movies, just that they were used, despite being no-names. Two-Face appeared a lot in the (awful) Batman Forever movie, before his brief appearance in TDK. So, if the Lizard is Jekyll and Hyde, which I agree... one could say Bizarro is the Frankenstein monster. You can tell whatever story you want with any villain. All I'm saying is that using Zod, again, before trying something different is stupid. Some people were correct to guess Singer was going to screw up with Superman Returns, some people are beginning to suspect the same will happen with Snyder...

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    I agree with snookeroo

    by brocknroll

    Snookeroo is right. They maybe interested in Viggo to play a villain but that doesn't mean he's playing Zod. Maybe they have a different villain in mind. Maybe Viggo will even be Lex. Never know.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:29 a.m. CST

    you point is bad Lemure, let it go

    by BaronMunchies

    "Doc Ock worked because the character/film was well written" I think we will all concede the point that if the characters are poorly written, they will fail with uninitiated audiences and the movie will tank. This is exactly the difference between Batman Begins and Batman and Robin. Ra's Al Ghul and Scarecrow were essentially non-entities outside of comics readers, but a good movie is a good movie. Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze and Bain are essentially non-entities outside of comics readers, but a bad movie is a bad movie. If you would like to make that point that the EASIEST way (not "best", mind you) for this particular team to make money on Man of Steel is to use Zod and Lex, fine. But don't be so smug in your assertions that only TB nerds would enjoy some originality in their flicks. Imagine what might happen if the characters/film were... well-written.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Mr. Mxyzptlk

    by khaos751

    The world is ready to see an imp from the 5th dimension!!!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:45 a.m. CST

    I would like to nominate the following actors for rolls.

    by Juggernaut125

    <p>Smallville</p> <p>Lana Lang - Jewel Staite</p> <p>Jonathon (Pa) Kent - Kevin Costner (since he is all ready rumored to be in it)</p> <p>Martha (Ma) Kent - Virginia Madsen</p> <p> </p> <p>Lois Lane - Zooey Deschanel</p> <p>Perry White - Nick Nolte</p> <p>Jimmy Olsen - Michael Cera (Who COULD be good in a supporting role, but not for carrying his own movie. Just cut his damn hair.)</p> <p> </p> <p>Metropolis</p> <p>Lex Luthor - I would LOVE to say Clancy Brown because he OWNS Lex the way Mark Hamill owns the Joker, but I think he would be a bit too old for the role now. Lex, even more so than Clark NEEDS to be an American actor. Symbolizing America's capitalism, greed and xenophobia. But he also needs to have an immense ego and presence. Maybe Josh Brolin. In fact, yes. I nominate Josh Brolin for the role.)</p> <p> </p> <p>Other villains</p> <p>General Zod - Ron Perlman</p> <p>Ursa - IMDB lists Lindsay Lohan as rumored to play her, but Kate Beckinsale would totally rule in this role.</p> <p>If they go with Non in this as well, he should obviously be some hulking wrestler with no lines but huge presence.</p> <p>Brainiac - Jude Law</p> <p>Mr. Mxtlyplyk (sp?) - Donald Glover</p> <p>Metallo - Vin Diesel</p> <p>Darkseid - Michael Clark Duncan</p> <p>Mongul - Dolph Lundgren</p>

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST

    @ Hank Henshaw

    by Lemure_v2

    Put yourself in the shoes of a Warners/DC executive: You're going to spend around 200 million making a tentpole summer blockbuster, and you want profit back on that. Bearing in mind that using the more obscure villains rarely works in film - especially now that "grittiness" and "realism" is the in thing. Do you: A, use a villain that nobody outside of comic-book fans has heard of and hope it works? B, re-use a villain much loved and portrayed over the years that is already in Joe Public's consciousness? And Superman Returns was nothing more than a homage to the original two. Further proof that the studio won't take risks. I'm not defending the studios, just saying how it is.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Argue away...

    by Lemure_v2

    It's not going to change a thing. Studios will not take risks like that nowadays, and Joe Public are going to laugh at the idea of a city in a bottle. example: Spider-Man 4 with Vulture? Not a chance.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Mr Mxyzptlk?

    by Lemure_v2

    My point exactly. Joe Public will LOVE him!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Warner Bros press release:

    by Lemure_v2

    Hey Joe Public. In the next Superman film, he'll be up against an imp from an alternate dimension that likes riddles. Box office success guaranteed.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST

    I am ok with it.

    by shutupfanboy

    Viggo is a great actor and he can bring the goods to any project. He has the leader of men vibe and has a great presence. Both are needed for Zod. I am also ok with using Zod as the villain since I have the feeling that Nolan is going to give us easter eggs like he has done with Batman for Brainiac, Luthor or even Darksied. Smallville fucked up Zod by hiring an actor who had none of the abilities Viggo has and going with the New Krypton storyline that a blind man could see coming.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Warner Bros. press release:

    by Lemure_v2

    hey Joe Public, in the new film Superman will face Darkseid: an evil god from a planet called Apokolips who can shoot "death rays" from his eyes. He travels around via "boom tube". Of course, they could alter that but look at the upset caused among the nerds when Green Lantern didn't have his white gloves. Thor without a helmet? No wings on Captain America? Can't have your cake and eat it...

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Daniel Craig as Zod.<p> Apologies to any other tbers if you've suggested him too.<p> He's got those striking otherworldy eyes and also the physicality to intimidate Superman.<p>

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Zod is a terrible idea

    by Tigger11

    I love Zod in the 2nd movie, but why use him instead of any of the other villains we haven't seen in a Superman movie. Luther was a terrible idea for the last movie, this is the same for the 2nd reboot movie. Do a new story, dont repeat an old one. Zod terrorizes world with his Yellow sun derived powers eventually Superman beats him, thats pretty much what we say in Superman II, how about a new story with a new villain.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Weak Ideas vs. Strong Talent

    by GOB Adama

    Honestly, this sounds to me like an epic clash of Short-sighted Executive Mandate against Talented Artistic Concepts. If we HAVE to get a decent Superman film franchise up and flying (Sorry, "Smallville" fans, but your show has gone so far its own way off the continuity Ponderosa that it'll always be a quirky side-thing rather than the main-line screen Superman. Not knocking your show.) by rehashing Zod, then at least it seems to be in the hands of people with a good chance of cooking up the leftovers into something tastey. We will see if they deliver.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Wow

    by GOB Adama

    I can really mix my metaphors.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Cobra-Kai

    by richievanderlow

    Great choice.. but won't Craig be busy with the next Bond flick for awhile?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    They need Brainiac... Or at least set him up for the second

    by Andrew Coleman

    You have to remember this movie is setting up what they are hoping to be a series of movies. Starting with Zod is fine I guess. Frankly I would have started with Luthor and Metallo.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST

    DONNER DID ZOD! C'mon! Original, PLEASE?! GEEZ!

    by Mennen

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    ZOD HAS BEEN DONE! Distance yourself, Zack. Be ORIGINAL.

    by Mennen

    Donner did Zod. It was great. This has to be bullshit, right? I mean you don't go on and on about how different this will be only to use the same character... RIGHT?!

  • That way, you'd have Neil before Zod.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Zod? Again?

    by Super Joker

    Really? Brainiac, Darkseid, Parasite, Metallo? Where's the love? I hope Lex Luthor gets re-imagined as the ultimate human adversary (the ruthless, untouchable, politicking industrialist) we all know and love from the comics as opposed to a retread of Gene Hackman's moustache-twiddling buffoon from the fucking 70's.

  • Yeah, giant robots.

  • It's getting quite boring now.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2 p.m. CST

    "Argue away, it changes nothing"

    by Larry Sellers

    I will. Thanks! That's the fun of the internet. So...Parallax and Hector Hammond are well known characters, then? Because I'm sure MOST people would only know of Sinestro as one of Green Lantern's villains. Green Lantern has a budget of $150 million and they're banking on a big headed scientist and a golden space entity for convincing antagonists. Studios have taken pretty big risks with comic book flicks in the past. It's all about how you sell it. Going to the Mr. Mxyzptlk extreme is silly. But building up some kind of invasion from Apokalips and Darkseid? Why not? Please direct me to the original issue in which Ock's inhibitor chip fried, his wife died, and his tentacles tried to take control of his mind? Faithful? Not quite. But well written and convincing. Before SM2, if you were to show a picture of Ock to someone in his orange and green get-up they'd laugh at the thought of him being in a movie. No one said Ra's and Scarecrow were NOT toned down. Only that now they are WAYYYY more recognizable to your average non-comic book reader after BB. And Bane is a bold choice (as primary villain of TDKR) as well since Batman & Robin nearly ruined the chances of the character ever being seen on screen again. Dude. They made Watchmen into a movie...well most of it. Warners openly called Superman Returns a failure. They're not going to fuck it up again. And if they do, it's going to be a brand new way of fucking up. Zod is indeed a "safe" villain for rebooting the series. However, I don't think it's fair to say that every other weird antagonist from the books is off limits. Stranger things have happened.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST

    So zod rehash, then braniac rehash

    by INWOsuxRED

    which could be decent, then Nuclear Man rehash. I'm looking forward to that one the most.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Audiences don't know what they want until they see it...

    by matineer

    "Hey, it's like this kid has toys, and they, like come alive when he leaves the room. The whole movie is talking toys!" Or: "It takes place a long time ago in a galaxy..." Or: "There's a shark, and a boat, and the shark eats somebody..."

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:12 p.m. CST

    super joker

    by INWOsuxRED

    Don't forget that the next villain will show up and beat up the old villain, just to prove how awesome they are. Depending on the variant in the formula, the hero may be forced to team up with the old villain just to survive this new threat...but can they actually co-exist together?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Why not use Bar-El and Lilo instead of Zod?

    by Drath

    Not so much because I don't like Zod, we really do have to look at some NEW supervillains for Superman, and while I'd prefer Parasite, Brainiac, or Metallo, it'd be cool go get the two drunk-with-power Kryptonian astronauts instead of re-establishing the Kryptonian criminals again and playing out "Kneel before Zod" again.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST

    I. AGREE.

    by ugh

    Btw Nordling, your poster ideal is awesome. I hope the producers scratch you a check!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Everytime I see Viggo...

    by Joe Damiani

    In a interview, I always think of a hippy. But a badass hippy that'll take his left foot and kick you in the right side of your face.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Josh Brolin for Lex?

    by Jaster

    FUCK YES! That would be amazing. That's if it would even be a good idea to have Lex in this film which I am definitely not sold on. Personally I don't think Zod will be in this. I think they will go the Brainiac route. Why? Because of Transformers. From a marketing point of view they'd be stupid not to. Brainiac has been depicted many ways including some Transformer-ey configurations. Personally I would like to see Brainiac grow throughout the film beginning like the MCP from Tron then going all Demon Seed, then Terminator and finally Megatron. Don't even play, you would cum in your fuckin' shorts.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:39 p.m. CST

    FIRST MOVIE - BRANIAC, SECOND MOVIE - LUTHOR

    by ChickenStu

    That's how they should do it.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Great job bakesalot, i thought it was legit

    by angry_spacboy

    then again, i am pretty retarded. Also, kudos to Nordling (for once) for putting a piece of fan art in his article.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Gary Oldman as Zod.

    by christonomist

    If you have to do Zod.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    If not Viggo, than Fassbender or Ralph Fiennes.

    by AnnoyYou

    Fassbender has the looks, voice and scariness, and Fiennes needs to erase the thought of Hades from the minds of filmgoers. I mean, he'll always have Voldemort and (even scarier) Amon Goeth & Francis Dollarhide in his villain pantheon, but he could use another big one (especially after Hades). If they want to do a young Zod, Tom Hiddleston (Loki in the upcoming Thor) or Harry Lloyd (from the upcoming A Game of Thrones and Doctor Who) would be excellent choices.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Here's a fan poster for ya

    by Darth Dean

    http://tinyurl.com/4ny2rdu

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Uninteresting villain for uninteresting superhero

    by Mgmax

    Terence Stamp did all that could be done with such a part. "You are master of all you survey." "And so I was yesterday. And the day before."

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:29 p.m. CST

    christonomist, about Gary Oldman...

    by ChickenStu

    Isn't he trying to move away from bad guy roles? AND, isn't he too entrenched in Nolan's Batman series? Nice idea, but those two factors (probably the second more than the first) probably make that impossible.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    and darth dean...

    by ChickenStu

    Interesting stuff dude...

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:36 p.m. CST

    why not Bizarro or Metallo or Doomsday or Parasite?

    by stu_pickles

    or anyone that is fresh for that matter. They can all put up a fight against supes, some even with the ability to kill him. still standing by my Doomsday movie idea. some day, stu, some day......

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    i actually wouldnt really want to see Bizarro in any serious fashion

    by stu_pickles

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST

    stu_pickles...

    by ChickenStu

    Aren't they all a bit too "side"? They'll go for a heavy hitter like Braniac, Luthor, Zod... Darkseid at a push. And as for Doomsday, dude, that died LONG ago. With the aborted Tim Burton idea, and the character's overexposure in the DC animated movie AND Smallville... the film-makers won't go near that one with a ten foot pole.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    too bad. i, like most people, would love to see Brainiac

    by stu_pickles

    and i really think he's a movie plausible villain. bottom line, though, we need to diversify our villains. maybe it would be a good idea to think about the lesser baddies and give them convincing origins. actually convincing origins arent even that necessary. I hated Spider-Man 3 but one of the things i had a least amount of problems with was how they just kind of shot Sandman into the film with a short and sweet radioactive accident story. it fit and i'm sure no one gave it a second thought.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Not my words...

    by GOB Adama

    Just a pretty good summation of how movies get made. May answer some questions. <p> "The Complaint: <p> 'There are no original ideas! Look at the top-grossing 25 films of the 2000s -- 23 were remakes or adaptations! How lazy can these writers get?' <p> The Problem: <p> Even if you know nothing about how movies get made, you know that there are very specialized tasks -- the sound guy is an expert in microphones and audio but probably couldn't be trusted to do stunts. And, you assume that when it comes to thinking up the ideas for what happens in the movie, somewhere it's all just some writer hunched over a keyboard -- a professional who is an expert in story, plot and character. <p> Not so. <p> In almost all cases, the initial ideas for movie plots don't come from screenwriters at all, but from producers (basically, the people in charge of the money side of the project). So most of the movies playing in your nearest theater didn't come from some writer thinking up a story he wanted to tell -- they came from some producer saying, 'There hasn't been a ThunderCats movie yet, has there? Avatar was full of cat people -- we can't miss!' <p> At that point, the producer and whoever else is involved (other producers, maybe a famous actor if they're lucky) will then hammer out a rough idea for the movie that will appeal to at least two of the four market demographics (young males, young females, older males, older females). So if it's an action movie aimed completely at young males, you throw a romance in there for the ladies. It's only then that they will give a screenwriter a call. In other words, in most Hollywood films, the writer is basically there to fill in the dialogue holes and think of clever catchphrases for Ryan Reynolds to say every time he socks a guy in the jaw. <p> For Example ... <p> The Halloween franchise wasn't cooked up by a plucky man named John Carpenter who had a dream about a man in a creepy mask. Instead, two producers approached him after they decided it would be cool to have a movie about a psycho stalking babysitters. <p> It's a tale as old as time. <p> So what about those screenplays that your friend working at the video store is constantly writing, in hopes they will some day get made and star a naked Natalie Portman? In reality, even the great ones are treated as spec scripts (basically, a literary audition). The script is proof to the people in charge that the writer is, for the most part, not illiterate. So if you submit a powerfully emotional piece that deftly explores the facets of love and loss, you might impress someone enough to get a job co-writing Transformers 4. <p> On the rare occasion that an original script does get picked up for production, it's likely to get swept up by one of the big franchises. I, Robot was initially an original script called Hardwired that no one would touch until a famous Asimov title was attached to it. Die Hard 2, 3 and 4, Ocean's Twelve and Starship Troopers were all original ideas that were snapped up and rebranded as franchises. So if you're working on a passion project, maybe it's time to let the dream die and just start focusing on a gritty reboot of She-Ra."

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:07 p.m. CST

    How to set up your Trilogy.

    by Err

    Movie 1: Past - Brainiac: Tie Brainiac into the destruction of Krypton. Have Supes fight him when Brainiac comes to Earth. Reveal that Brainiac is the reason Krypton is destroyed. Supes destroys all but a mysterious small remnant of Brainiac allowing for him to return. Movie 2: Present - Luthor: MAKE IT FUCKING BRAINS VS. BRAWN. I want my Luthor smart. I want him devious. I want him 50 fucking moves ahead of Superman. I want his 12th level intellect. Luthor must go to jail. Movie 3: Future - Darkseid: Luthor and Supes v. Darkseid. Luthor realizes he can't allow Darkseid to destroy Superman because he wants to.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST

    inspired casting

    by Smack_Teddy

    safer than Jim from the office for Captain America, but an awesome choice.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Metallo is a glorified henchman

    by vadakinX

    Seriously. All Supes needs to do is fly up about 50 feet into the air and pick him off with his heat vision. In fact he could theoretically do the same with Doomsday and Darkseid. I find it interesting that the only flying foes Superman has are either some form of clone/copy or other Kryptonians. The likes of Darkseid and Doomsday can jump fairly high if they want to but Superman can always fly higher and inflict damage at distance.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    not white or 35

    by papalovedoug

    every self respcting superman fan knows who general zod is.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:39 p.m. CST

    meh

    by lead_sharp

    A villain over used in the live action makes it look like an easy play, can't be bothered.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST

    It's not just Zod. It's Zod and Ursa.

    by Larry Knowles

    You get two great villains for the price of one.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST

    err, here's how I'd do it...

    by ChickenStu

    Movie 1. Clark already has his job at the Daily Planet and is saving people in secret. He knows nothing about his origins, but already has all his powers. A strange craft is entering Earth's atmosphere. He gets a call from his parents. He goes back to Smallville, Jonathan and Martha tell him they found him in a rocket ship, and since the ship has entered Earth's atmosphere... the rocket ship has been doing something. He goes to investigate, and is transported to the Arctic where the Fortress of Solitude builds itself around him. Jor-El appears, tells Clark he'll answer all his questions soon, but he must defeat the threat, which is Brainiac and save Earth. He does. It ends with Superman known to the world, Lois Lane in love and a bald man staring out of a high rise window chuckling to himself. Movie 2. Clark and Lois get an exclusive interview with Lex Luthor who is running for President. At first they think he's an OK guy, but Clark investigates his past finding evidence of shady deals, and a trail of dead bodies. Also, Lex seems to know a hell of a lot about the fate of Krypton. Also, Jor El begins to appear to Supes in visions, detailing more about his origins. Clark and Lois are framed for a murder and have to go on the run, and Clark uses his guise of Superman to defeat henchman, and so forth. No super-powered villian? How about Lex in a Kryptonite powered suit at some point? Or Metallo as a henchman? Superman faces down Lex, and manages to clear Clark and Lois' names, but in a surprise move, Lex frames Superman for a murder. As Lex is elected President of the United States, his first executive order is to declare Superman an enemy of the people of Earth. The film ends with Superman going on the run... and Luthor discovering the existance of the Phantom Zone... and Lois discovering that Superman and Clark are one and the same. Movie 3. Lex Luthor, now president joins forces with General Zod to defeat Superman for good. By facing Zod, Supes discovers the COMPLETE truth about what happened on Krypton. The stage is set for a final epic battle where Supes must defeat Luthor, save the Earth and clear his name, all the while protecting Lois who has become a target, for her knowledge of the secret. And we're done.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    I wonder if they'll do a "bio suit" like GL's gonna have..

    by darthwaz1

    Supes outfit should be some sort of alien technology, not lame like that Tim Burton bs costume...but something cool that's not too far from the original, but not out of left field either, and not just spandex...and PLEASE no underwear on the outside of his pants! they didn't give batman the underwear, so no reason for superman to have it!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Thank God they're going with Zod again...

    by schreck

    ...I mean seriously; Darkseid, Brainiac, Parasite, Metallo, etc. are all lame villians anyway. Who the hell wants to see any of them in a movie? I just really hope they revisit the Robert Vaughn character for the next movie. And after that I want another Luthor real estate scam. I think we're long overdue for a return to that. Finally, the fans are getting what we've been begging for all these years.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Incidentally,

    by schreck

    (and seriously this time), I've always thought Ron Perlman, who was mentioned above, could be a great Darkseid. Maybe that's just lazy fan-boy casting but I genuinely think it could be great. It's not like the character is a re-hash of Hellboy, so why not?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Brainiac would work in the orgin the most

    by Super Joker

    The Animated Series did a stellar job of making Brainiac of making Supermans beef with Brainiac really personal. In the series Brainiac is actually responsible for Krypton exploding - he was the Kryptonian council's AI who refuted all of Jor El's warnings about the imminent danger and instead told the council a whole heap of bullshit. Brainiac wanted free and allowing the Kryptonians to die. I thought that was a brilliant tale. Brainiac being up first would make more sense because it's a way of having a refreshing villain with a legitimate connection to the protagonist. Zod however is one of those villains who works best further on down the line. Also, because Zod is in the film, doesn't necessarily mean he will be the villain. He could simply be on trial in this film and then presumed dead when the planet explodes. He might not show up as an antagonist until part 2 or 3. If you think about what the origin will likely be about under the new direction, it will likely be an origin which concerns identity and the chief villain will be there to make Superman question it. Brainiac would be linked very closely to Superman's identity and destiny and would be a suitable villain. It would also be a chance for Superman to let rip due to Brainiac being a machine and therefore a fantastic punching bag for Superman's powers. Then again Zod could work, in that bringing him in earlier would make Clark question who or what he is and what side he really should be on. But that version of the origin has been coverred in Smallville recently. And then again Brainiac could be brought back for an alliance with Luthor in part 3 or something. Like Luthor spends all of his time in 1 & 2 kinda in the background as a silent threat or master manipulator, but in part 3 he comes to the fore at last, maybe he brings Brainiac back or uses the technology to become physically on-par with Superman and tries to take him on (the Justice League cartoon did a brilliant Lex/Brainiac uneasy alliance story arc, they go well together) There's loads of possibilities I guess. Let's just wait and see.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:33 p.m. CST

    darthwaz1

    by Super Joker

    His costume IS alien technology. It's Kryptonian, hence why it's always intact when he flies through fire or blasts through a wall.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Update Zod by turning him black,then

    by KilliK

    OOPS.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Again, Gary Oldman kind of is Zod.

    by christonomist

    I know, he's Gordon. But they've made it pretty clear the Bat & Supes universes don't overlap. Besides, Oldman buries himself in every character he plays. Oh, and insert Chris Evans argument here.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    how about a female Darkseid? name her Pinkseid

    by KilliK

    besides we need new original characters,right,RIGHT?

  • ... and this news is boring to me. If there's such a vast universe of potential out there, why in the world re-use the villain from a 30-year-old movie?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Kneel before Aragorn!

    by Dave Neville

    You say silly as hell... I say awesome sauce! Mortensen would be fantastic as Zod. He once played Satan, so I imagine Zod would be a breeze!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 6:57 p.m. CST

    The Rock as Non and Emma Watson with short hair as Ursa

    by KilliK

    search your feelings,you know it.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Jürgen Prochnow IS Zod !!!

    by Hellspike

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST

    It's kinda funny...

    by GOB Adama

    How many people are suggesting "an original approach" to Superman and then layout what has already been done in one of the Animated shows.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Non...

    by Larry Knowles

    I suppose if you're going to have Zod and Ursa, you better have Non. Don't use him for comic relief, tho. Non should be a mad dog bodyguard. He should be completely obedient to Zod, but a real physical threat.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Superman fails. Hope is lost. Clark returns home.

    by Larry Knowles

    You know, the real beauty of Superman lies within his wholesome midwest childhood. Not in his other-worldly superpowers. But in his innocent boy scout view of the world. I always wanted to see a scene where Superman is dealt a losing hand, the world is in great peril and Clark returns not to the fortress of solitude, but to the farm. To his earth parents. He has a down moment and his earth mother gives him hug. And he is able to put life back into perspective. I always felt that Superman's Fortress of Solitude relationship with Jor-El was too overplayed in the movies. It would have been nice to see a scene where Superman tries to find solace in the fortress of solitude but finds it cold and alien and Clark realizes that he is more human than Kryptonian.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:48 p.m. CST

    No thanks. Absolutely stupid poster.

    by Bob Cryptonight

    I'm all for Mortensen as General Zod--but for chrissakes move ON from the Donner films!!!!!!! Use the theme if you must, but just totally reinvent Superman...different tone, different pacing, different acting choices. And don't do a Nolan, either!! Put Superman in the film A LOT!!!!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:49 p.m. CST

    All the more reason to have Zod in the movie...

    by Larry Knowles

    This movie needs to tempt Clark with a Kryptonian destiny. He needs to have to choose between two worlds. Zod and Ursa tempt him with life as a Kryptonian king. But he is reminded of his humble human upbringing. No other Superman villains are able to bring that kind of conflict to the story. Zod and Ursa!

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:50 p.m. CST

    "like anyone's gonna know what that means besides 35 year old white guys"

    by Bob Cryptonight

    Correct!!!!!!!!!! Excellent point! Let's not coast on the fumes of an ancient movie (which I adore, by the way). Move on...

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Bakeselot

    by proevad

    That gave me an actual chill when I clicked into the article. Well done.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:56 p.m. CST

    saint seiya

    by proevad

    Sorry. Well done. It was your idea after all.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 8:58 p.m. CST

    lemure_v2 -- okay so go with zod or lex because its safe???

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    safe to package and sell to the masses that is? Ughhh....yeah, heaven forbid anyone ever attempt a project that could appeal to the masses/fan-boys and use a new villain that hasnt been seen before. I really don't think something like that is so difficult to crack, especially if they get the right script, right people and approach it with intelligence, creativity and common sense. Superman Returns played it "safe" and used Lex. Now everyone who worked on that film wont be ten feet near this reboot.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9 p.m. CST

    Jeebus

    by proevad

    some of you people are fucking stupid. Zod has been around since at least the mid 60's. Anyone who's ever picked up a comic book will recognize what that poster means immediately.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST

    proevad

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    people also recognize Superman brand........he's the real star of the film. All most of us here are trying to say is that they'd rather see Supes battle someone different onscreen. Thats not even a knock on zod and lex...they are classic villains, but fucking enough already. Why not save them for the sequel, like Nolan saved Joker for the Bat sequel? Honestly........ Would you rather see another safe rehash with zod or lex at the heart of things? Or would you rather see a new direction and at least an attempt at a different Superman villain? Keep in mind Joe public didn't know much about Ironman, he was a 2nd tier Marvel charcter....that is until RDJ and Jon Favreau took the character and made an awesome movie out of him.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Great Post Larry Sellers

    by MRJONZ72

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Will someone please tell me...

    by Larry Knowles

    ...why Darkseid or Doomsday or Braniac would make such great villains? The only justification that I've read for having these others as villains is that they havn't been used before in the movies. Aside from being physically menacing (and as yet unused in the movies) what do any of these bring to the story? Remember, Superhero movie is only as good as its villain. The villain has to be more than just a physical threat. They have to challenge the Superhero on multiples levels. They have to provide a challenge that can't be solved by brute force alone but by deep internal strife. Please tell me why any of these other villains deserve to be in a Superman movie?

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Hulk Hogan as Zod....

    by BatVomit

    "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD, BROTHER!"

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:01 p.m. CST

    John Malkovich or Kevin Corrigan for Lex

    by TheJudger

    Never understood why we went with Kevin Spacey. John fucking scares me. Kevin I'm sure no one is thinking about, but I promise you he would make an amazing Lex.

  • Feb. 26, 2011, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Please just let Superman punch somebody in the face.

    by GornPirate

    Even if its a giant robot and not a major villain. Just let him fight like a man and punch somebody right in the face this time.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Punching seems silly

    by Larry Knowles

    Punching would look silly. The bigger blow would come from Superman flying full force at his opponent and getting his full body mass behind the hit. Punching something just seems silly. Silly I tell you. Also, Harry, please give me a call. I love you. Larry

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 12:32 a.m. CST

    You know that this movie needs?

    by tommyleespenis

    Giant spiders and gay robot sidekicks

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Reboots of origins

    by Nonoche

    I just don't get why all the reboots HAVE to include the origins part, moreover seeing that these by definition pretty much define the canon and don't ever vary slightly. Why tell over and over a story that's exactly the same and that everybody knows? As cool as it is to see the origins of a superhero unfold before our eyes, it's just a waste of film, time and money story wise IMHO Anyway you turn things, at the end of the day Peter Parker is going to get bitten by a modified special spider in order to become THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. I just don't see why they'd want to tell us again, moreover seeing it can be explained in a single phrase if they really insist to have the reboot to stand on its own. So I hope this reboot won't include the origins of Superman, we've been through that already and for those who are too young to have seen the Donner movie, they had a heads-up on Superman Returns anyway.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 2:49 a.m. CST

    At first I wasn't happy, then I rejoiced.

    by Marat

    Because let's face it, anything's better than Jude Law.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Damn, maybe Childs should write the new film...

    by Stegman84

    He seems to know his shit, and I'd trust him more than I would Goyer. lol. I do have faith in the Nolan/Snyder team up though, I will remain to do so until proven otherwise. The usual fanboy "it's gonna suck and be the worst thing ever and I know this because we have seen and heard almost nothing so far, so clearly the good credentials of the film makers involved means nothing in the shadow of my almighty precognitive powers, even if I have been wrong in the past more often than I have been right" outcries don't mean shit to me right now, I'm just going to sit back and watch this take shape and hope that, finally, we'll get a good Superman film again. And my gut feeling is that we just might...

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 5:03 a.m. CST

    A drunken superman punching babies

    by KilliK

    yeah i would pay to see that.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 6:38 a.m. CST

    @braindrain

    by ChickenStu

    That idea is quite like the ORIGINAL concept for Superman III. It's original title was "Superman Vs Superman". Seriously! Look it up! :-)

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 6:40 a.m. CST

    ZOD = Stalin who thinks Totalitarianism is the only

    by KilliK

    way to save a world who is in corruption and decay.keep the megalomania and aristocracy aspect of Stamp's incarnation but volume down his arrogance. SUPERMAN = Jesus who wants to let the people have their free will and make a better world by themselves.he will interfere with their progress and help them when it is absolutely necessary. both super beings are homeless so they view Earth as the new home they want to live in.They understand that the world of the humans is flawed and need of guidance but they have their own way of how to fix things. Zod is impatient and wants to save the world by himself before watching his new home being destroyed exactly like his old home-planet.we get the revelation that Krypton was not destroyed by its sun,as Superman thought,but because of a civil war between the factions of the planet. The irony is Superman's father as a scientist and leader of one of the main factions involved in the civil war,was responsible for the creation of the weapon which would end the war but unfortunately it ended up destroying the whole planet. That's why Zod wants to help humankind because he doesnt want to see them repeat the same mistakes like his own people did and lose again another home.unfortunately since he is a soldier,he thinks total control of everything is the only option for the humankind to be saved. Superman learns the truth about his father and the civial war in Krypton.That saddens him but that doesn make him choose Zod's side and follow his way of helping mankind.Lois shows him to have faith in humankind and together with his need to redeem his father's past sins he is determined to not let humankind have the same ultimate fate but instead to help humans as much as he wants while letting them choose freely their path towards a better or worse future. all the above lead to an eventual clash of ideologies between Zod and Superman which will end with an epic brawl between Superman and Zod. oh and that doomdsay weapon? well an idea is to be the Phantom Zone Generator.Jor-El created it as the ultimate weapon (like the nuke in ww2) which would imprison (temporally) the faction armies in the phantom dimension thus terrifying the leaders of the fighting factions and forcing them eventually to come to their senses and make peace for the good of the Kryptonian civilization. Jor-El succeeds with his plan,the factions make peace and the civil war ends but unfortunately as a side effect,the use of the phantom zone created gravity distortions in the local time-space in Krypton which affected its sun who started turning into Red Sun and eventually exploded destroying Krypton. oh and the Phantom Zone generator is fueled with radioactive Kryptonite,an element which is dangerous for the Kryptonias regardless if they are super-powered or not.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 7:35 a.m. CST

    He's Vigo! You are like the buzzing of flies to him!!

    by Axl Z

    That would be great

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Hugo Weaving as Non!

    by QuietMan297

    Sure, Non is a big, hulking brute with just about NO brain capacity, why not just go the whole other way with it? While I'm at it: —Tina Fey for Lois or Ursa, as she exudes sex. — Will Ferrell would shred as Jimmy Olsen. An older take. — Alec Baldwin as Perry White. He'll own the movie. — Hell, why not just make it a comedy/musical, throw in some showtunes and dance numbers, bring in Joel Silver to help orchestrate, and voila! Can't be worse than anything that's come before.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST

    quietman297

    by Juggernaut125

    I was discussing the idea of casting this movie at work yesterday and my coworker suggested Kelsey Grammer in the role of Lex Luthor. Although he was serious, I think this would work pretty well in your scenario.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Eh, I like Viggo in pretty much everything he's in

    by Gozu

    Still, fucking General Zod? Again?

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    The more I think about Zod

    by Super Joker

    The more I think he's right for this movie. There's been a few comments on here already which have demonstrated the potential angles they could come in with this character. I think they will be attempting to re-establish Superman as a hero. In order to modernise Superman they have to go far beyond the idea that he is intrinsically good and wholesome - that just will not cut it. A hero is someone that does something out of their own free will which they understand to be difficult, or impossible, and place what they believe is right for others above what is right for themselves. Also, truly heroic acts are often unsung, sometimes to the detriment of the hero. I'd like to see how Zod could bring that out. He could be like Pacino in Devils Advocate - hugely charasmatic and likable. I want to believe that if I were Clark, I would be tempted by his offers too. I want the Clark on screen to do something heroic which puts him right on the side of the humans in a convincing manner. I think that's where the heart and interest of the Superman character really lies. He's a God that understands the dangers of corruption and temptation to seize power. Someone like Zod would facilitate many aspects of the origin of Superman.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 11:36 a.m. CST

    I want to see Vigo as Luthor, not as Zod.

    by Orbots Commander

    Mortensen as an evil-Tony-Stark version of Lex Luthor would be a total 180 from the Hackman/Spacey LL screen portrayal.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST

    @EVERYONE:Dear god, People are STILL CONFUSED

    by mattforce7

    After reading through all the chat between everyone, its still obvious that NO CREDIT or explanation has been given to the ambitious amateur who took it upon himself to make this poster. Saw it, read the talkback, awesome. Im glad bakesalot made the poster, shows initiative. Im sure everyone could glimpse this PArticular vibe: It was very much akin to the "WHY SO SERIOUS" ad campaigns, which is why EVERYONE who has not read any of these TBs still believes its a real poster. @bakesalot, great job for effect, i just wish some MOD on the SITE could FIX/CLARIFY the article. Because according to like 5 people on here, their friends are bitching over the poster being authentic. I sure hope someone fixes this...Cheers

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 12:58 p.m. CST

    WEll, this site is on the ball...kidna

    by mattforce7

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/superman_movies/news/?a=30878

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST

    @ juggernaut125

    by QuietMan297

    YES!!! Thank you. And if the role hadn't already been cast, John Krasinski as Superman; and Bill Maher as Braniac.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Sorry, the baddie AIN'T Zod.

    by RetroActive

    At least I hope it isn't. Why is everyone assuming this?! Is it because of the lame-o remake of Singer's? C'mon! There are so many more possibilities. Screw Darkseid, too. Just make a cool movie without all of these silly casting rumors. Viggo's awesome. But I don't care about Zod, not right now. I thought they were not following the canon anyway?

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Besides...

    by RetroActive

    I'm rooting for Brainiac, if any of the primary Supes villains were to surface in the film.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Viggo as Zod yes, but Zod in Superman no

    by bishopfan85

    I'm still extremely excited about the thought of a Nolan/Snyder Superman but truly it would be great if this film could entirely veer away from any prior Superman incarnations and introduce Darkseid as Superman's major antagonist. Bringing back Zod will immediately do what the last Superman did to make it such a let down and that's immediately lead people to have to compare which one is better. And obviously the original Zod is an icon and regardless of how much "better" Viggo is acting wise he'll never be able to live up to that childhood imagery of the original.

  • Words fail me. Superman needs a major over haul - he's about as 'with it' as Mickey Mouse'.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 3:21 p.m. CST

    billybatson1000...

    by QuietMan297

    ...joining the ranks of all the other morons who post before they read, you failed to observe that the poster was rendered (quite well, I might add) by an AICN reader, at the request of Nordling towards the end of the article. It's not supposed to be the official poster....wait, was that your brain yawning? Okay, I get it.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    somebody's eating a bag of shit!

    by AllThosePowers

    Why put Zod in a reboot? What the fuck are they doing. I hope everybody working at Warner Bros. were all been raped anally as soon as they were born.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Harry said it best...

    by QuietMan297

    ...years ago, after having seen a trailer for the Halle Berry Catwoman movie, he described Warner Brothers executives as "older men in suits, laughing while peeing in the mouths of children and snapping polaroids." THESE are the fuckers who are bringing back Zod, after we trudge through yet another origin story.

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  • Feb. 27, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST

    So, it's Zod for sure?

    by catlettuce4

    Because that's stupid. Again, we are just remaking the Chris Reeve films? There are other characters for Superman to contend with besides Luthor and Zod!

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 9:47 p.m. CST

    larryknowles

    by catlettuce4

    Darkseid and Braniac have already made great villains, at least in the animated series. If you're unfamiliar with the characters then don't ask people to explain themselves because you are lazy, just research the characters yourself, this is the internet. There's more to them than being physically tough or not being used in a live action film yet. However, one of the things many fans desperately want to see IS Superman having physical fights, which they seem reluctant to put onscreen for some reason.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 11:14 p.m. CST

    rebber!

    by Juggernaut125

    Mavin Johnson is right about Howard Johnson being right... I mean catlettuce4 is right about people wanting to see Superman in a SUPER FIGHT! Something to put the Neo vs Agent Smith smackdown to shame. Something to make the collective audience's jaws drop to the floor as we all think 'Holy SHIT! The magnitude of this donnybrook is end-of-the-universe-INFUCKINGCREDIBLE!' That is what is going to make or break the next Superman movie.

  • Feb. 27, 2011, 11:46 p.m. CST

    ZOD'S BEEN DONE!!! C'MON! WTF is up?

    by Mennen

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 12:57 a.m. CST

    If they use Zod AGAIN

    by TheNothing

    I will punch Zack Snyder in the ovary.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 5:36 a.m. CST

    Wait..I thought..they said... it probably wasn't gonna be Zod?

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    meh. Viggo would be cool, though

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 5:42 a.m. CST

    11.04.10

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    Snyder also debunked speculation that General Zod, the Kryptonian villain from the Superman comic books who appeared in Superman II and on the Smallville TV show, will be the villain in Man of Steel, saying that the wild internet rumors reporting to the contrary are "just wrong." He added that people who report such rumors on the internet have "no idea what's going on."

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Oh God, Not Zod!

    by Stalkeye

    I was hoping for Darksied of even Doomsday to a lesser extent in which we can see supes get his hands dirty as oppossed to lifting planes or an Island full of kryptonite. *Wink*

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 8:08 a.m. CST

    I have to say, I think the fake movie poster would be better...

    by Astronut

    ...if it were reversed. Have the standard issue "S" logo as the main image and then have "KNEEL" burned across it. You know, from heat vision.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 8:09 a.m. CST

    By the way, I'm also a little sick of Zod...

    by Astronut

    ...and Luthor. Can't we get, like, Brainiac? Geez.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Viggo, awesome-rumored stories..not so awesome..

    by Omar

    Think out of the box. Make the Supes updated, action-packed. If you're gonna cast awesome people, set the bar high, and let the stars shine. Don't let them suffer because of a weak story, or an overdone reboot of the same stuff. Brandon Routh was awesome, but a victim of a poor script/story. I was excited about Superman Returns, until I watched it a second time, and then saw Hancock with Will Smith. Not that Hancock outdoes Superman for me. But in this case, Hancock was more relevant with the world today, and had him fighting true to life bad guys and whooping butt. I think Superman deserves at least this much, and can be great again. It should be a movie that sets a new standard for kids growing up today. It can be violently good with Superman getting rid of the bad elements in neighborhoods, drug lords, etc. We do need a Superman that gets things done now, and doesn't keep re-hashing the past.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Regurgitating the same old crap.

    by will2power

    I really wish they would stop regurgitating. You'd think that in like 70 - 80 years of Superman, he spent the whole time fighting Lex Luthor and Zod. I don't want to see them redo Zod. I'd like to see them give us something new. Actually sit down and read a few Superman comics and try a different villain. It's worse than another Superman Origin story. It doesn't matter who you cast, this whole premise sounds like crap.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Williams Superman Theme

    by Mike

    You know, at first I had no problems with them not going with the Williams superman music, but I changed my mind. I'm a HUGE sports fan, especially a packers fan, and while listening to sports radio the other day, I heard an Aaron Rodgers interview, and before they officially started the interview, they led in with the Superman theme and just let it play, and that's when I was reminded about how perfect and iconic and how perfectly iconic that theme is.... its a shame they're going away from it.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    No Zod!!!!!

    by George

    It's just a terrible idea to rehash this in the first movie.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Alien Armada....

    by crazypants

    Watching the trailer for Battle for LA - I thought whoever the villain the main set piece for the new Superman movie should be Kal-El vs and entire alien armada. Just thousands upon thousands of city sized ships and millions of smaller fighters and terrestial giant robots and AT-ATs. That would be fantastic. The lack of a major physical threat has been the downfall of the movie Superman franchise - so just throwing a billion laser firing things at him would look great on film. Superman flying through the mothership from Independence Day, heat visioning the smaller fighters, punching a Transformer type bipedal robot - all the while keeping civilians from getting crushed by debris and stray energy weapons and shoring up damaged buildings - that would look so frigging cool on the big screen.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Person Of Interest = How Much Is The Paycheck?

    by AsimovLives

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 3:31 p.m. CST

    I could pass on Zod. But at least no Natural Disasters

    by Wcwlkr

    I could actually pass on Zod. Though Viggo would be awesome. But at least it means they're not just doing Superman vs. Natural Disasters. Which is why Superman Returns and the previous Superman movies sucked so bad. But why not have him vs. Braniac someone who could threaten him physically.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST

    @ astronut

    by GOB Adama

    I was thinking the same thing.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Or how about a brand-new villain that's never been in the comics,

    by WriteForTheEdit

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST

    or in the movies, or on TV, or the animated DVDs, or whatever...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ...like a completely new creation? So it will be a surprise? I'd like that. I really would.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Cavill sucks

    by Jon Brand

    He IS NOT SUPERMAN. This movie is in flames. Fuck this movie. fml.

  • Feb. 28, 2011, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Zod as the villain

    by Der Aggravated Piscine

    Feels premature. This is a reboot. Do we really need one big bad? Think BATMAN BEGINS.

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