The Behind the Scenes Pic of the Day celebrates the final Discovery launch with some Roddenberry love!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes Pic!
I had a request to commemorate the final launching of the Discovery shuttle here in the BtSPotD column. Always eager to please I combed through the archives and found something that makes me smile.
I almost went with another model ship image… got some good ones from Alien, Battle Beyond the Stars and Star Wars that will see the light of day in the coming days, but since I just featured a big model shot (The Black Hole) I figured I’d hold off and instead focus on Gene Roddenberry, the man who almost single-handedly captured the optimistic dream of what NASA could represent for the future of mankind.
I love this image because it seems to be a perfectly captured moment of a man content with life, surrounded by his dreams. He has the love of his life in his arms and is sitting on the bridge of his legacy. It’s a lovely picture of Gene and Majel Barrett Roddenberry on what looks like the set of
Star Trek: The Next Generation. I mean Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Ahem... Hope you guys enjoy it!
Tomorrow’s Behind the Scenes Pic takes real good pictures!
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Feb. 25, 2011, 6:31 p.m. CST
glad to see the shuttle program go
Feb. 25, 2011, 6:38 p.m. CST
Feb. 25, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST
Touch screen and white paint = Enterprise-A from the end of Trek IV.
Feb. 25, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST
and from what i have read about the Man,he had even more pussy than the womanizer Kirk.or is this a hoax?
Feb. 25, 2011, 6:48 p.m. CST
as that was the only bridge that had that sort of ancillary equipment around the science station. Check it: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/bridges/enterprise-refit-bridge.jpg
Feb. 25, 2011, 6:55 p.m. CST
Feb. 25, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST
That was the first bridge to use the touch screen displays, and it was white.
Feb. 25, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST
Quint have you ever even watched TNG .... ?? Picards bridge had class, not like this shite or JJ's light filled crap hole.
Feb. 25, 2011, 7:06 p.m. CST
Feb. 25, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST
by Mr Soze
Sorry...Bill Shatner is awesome though
Feb. 25, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST
If she's sitting in his lap, it's logical that she's got her feet propped up on the counter ahead of her... ...I am such a geek for noticing that and pointing it out.
Feb. 25, 2011, 7:52 p.m. CST
A) Those are Majel's shoes. She has her feet propped up on one of the science station's auxilliary consoles that roll out from the wall. and B) They're ont he set of the Enterprise-A bridge as seen in the last 60 seconds of "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home". The only time that set was painted white and the only time that set in that configuration has Michael Okuda's backlit touch screen control panels. That picture of Gene and Majel was taken for an issue of People magazine that was published in early 1987. That set was soon to be revamped as the "battle bridge" of the Enterprise-D in a couple of appearances in the first season of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" (the pilot, "Encounter at Farpoint" and a late first season episode called "The Arsenal of Freedom"). It was later revamped into something of a multi-purpose set, and was used as a starbase courtroom in the second season episode "The Measure of a Man" (which was not a gay porno) and as a medical lab in the fourth season opener, "Best of Borth Worlds, part II". The original cast got a new bridge set with their next movie, the ill-fated "Star Trek V - The Final Frontier". I know my shit.
Feb. 25, 2011, 7:57 p.m. CST
Feb. 25, 2011, 7:58 p.m. CST
by Voice O. Reason
It is the same basic set as the one used for the first three films, except it has touchscreen buttons.
Feb. 25, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST
Looks like a bunch of iPod's up the wall. Or maybe Zune's?
Feb. 25, 2011, 8:06 p.m. CST
The scuttling of the shuttle program -- without creating a significantly more advanced fleet to take its place -- feels like another nail in the coffin of manned space flight. Growing up in the 60s and 70s, Roddenberry's original series gave me hope that we'd reach the stars in my lifetime. The moon landings proved we could get off this rock and land on another; STAR TREK posited just how much further we could go. In those days it wasn't preposterous to think that we'd have lunar colonies by the '90s. Or land on Mars by 2000. Or even send men into the outer solar system or even beyond. Perhaps this was just the naive thinking of a child. Then again, humans made the jump from the first brief flight at Kitty Hawk to setting down on the Sea of Tranquility in less than 70 years. Who knows what would have happened between 1969 and 2011 had our country -- or any other nation -- put more into the manned space programs? I've given up on NASA or any government agency leading the way. The private sector seems to be the only real source of innovation for space travel (provided they can make decent money off of it). We shall see. But hey, if it doesn't come to pass -- we always had Vulcan.
Feb. 25, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST
How the hell do you mistake this for the TNG bridge...
Feb. 25, 2011, 10:31 p.m. CST
They have a program in place, it's been there for years. It takes time and money to develop the new one. They have to stop the current one for a number of years before the other one "takes off." It costs $500 million for each launch.
It's the TNG bridge if you're a goddamn moron! Damn it Quint, this makes me rethink all your, "I believe that's John Johnson behind the camera on the right" bits.
Feb. 25, 2011, 11:12 p.m. CST
He died shortly before the release of ST:VI, on October 24, 1991 to be exact. That bridge does look to be from ST:IV, since that was the ONLY time that the bridge was painted white. Also the 'Okudagrams" on the panels are indistinct, meaning that they were some of Michael Okuda's early work after he started with Paramount.
Feb. 25, 2011, 11:33 p.m. CST
Seeing that picture of Majel Barret brought back a lot of memories for me. I had a chance to meet her at a star trek convention in Australia when I was 12, and she was just the nicest woman I had ever met. <p> About the nasa stuff. The space shuttles were a waste of resources. Who cares about low earth orbit. If the apollo program had of been continued, humans would have walked on one of saturn's moons by now. That said, it's amazing what nasa can do with less than 2% of the money that the US spends on its military. If the US cut military spending by 25% (which would still leave it way ahead of the rest of the world), and put all the money into NASA, inspritational stuff would be possible. <p> Curse the military industrial complex, and all the money that is spent on war.
Feb. 26, 2011, 12:46 a.m. CST
by frank cotton
that was, WHAT IT IS TO BURN, and, ARMS FULL OF EMPTY, by DROWN , off HOLD ON TO THE HOLLOW, backed with, ALONE IN A DIRTY WORLD, NEED THIS NEED, and, THE DIRTIEST HAND, DROWN, again, from PRODUCT OF A TWO FACED WORLD. and, as you, may have already guessed, those, set the tone for tonite's LOST HIGHWAY, with frank cotton, on your, way, seriously, alternative reality, music channel. or, whatever. frank's, in a mood, again, and, if you're curious, he'll tell you, why. the WORD of the DAY, is, FILTH, and we, are, gonna get, really, really, nasty, dirty, and...bear with me, please. tonight's, truly, FUCKED UP NEWS, picks up, where, we left off, last time, that is, right after, frank, got sick. not, actually sick, just, sick, in a, sort of, GODAMNED FED UP AND SICK AND TIRED, sort of way. why? because, of ZAHRA, that's why. ain't heard of her? well, we'll fix that, right up for ya! but, first, some more music to further establish the unease. let's have, HEY JUPITER, by TORI AMOS, off BOYS FOR PELE, SILENT ALL THESE YEARS, and TEAR IN YOUR HAND, TORI again, from LITTLE EARTHQUAKES, INNOCENCE, by THE AIRBORNE TOXIC EVENT, same again, and, VAPOUR TRAIL, RIDE, and RIDE. hey...do ya'll understand, the true definition of, the word, MALEVOLENT? i'll see, if i, can't clarify it, somewhat, in a moment here. it's all i can do, to keep from screaming. for those in the dark, it seems one, MRS. ELISA BAKER, step - no, godamnit. ZAHRA BAKER, ten years old, who had already lost a leg, and most of her hearing, to cancer, went missing, in late september last, altho it wasn't reported for some two weeks. from what frank's pieced together since then, his ANGEL...'undetermined homicidal violence'...the slattern, responsible for her safety and well-being, no, i won't dirty the word, has been charged with, 'abusing, murdering, and desecrating'. her. god's little ANGEL. the, just what the fuck, do i call this, piece of shit, who was also responsible, for her safety and well-being, thinks, that we're, all, stupid enough to believe that, he had 'nothing' to do, with this. not him. no, sir. there has been mention, of rape, but, that's all, just mention. for quite some time, there was, apparently, some question as to who (?) did it, but, well, who do YOU think, did it? i'll tell you, it was, DEFINITELY, HER, and, more than likely, HIM, and, they should, BOTH, be DEAD ALREADY! the 'man' is at home, making plans, to go back to Australia (sorry). you see, god doesn't care much, at all, for war, or, violent homicide in general; the usual, assholes being assholes, shit, that's been going on, since, whenever. but what really, turns his stomach, what really, gets him in the mood, to, see the entire surface of the earth, burnt, to cinders, is this, this EVIL. there is, nothing, else, to call it. there is, wrong, and, there is, way wrong, but, even crimes of passion, can be forgiven. some (very, very few) war crimes, can, even be forgiven. but, this, sort of, sickness, CAN NOT BE TOLERATED. it has been, for, way, way too long, and, if you wonder, just what sort of, abomination, brings on the FULL-BORE, WRATH-OF-GOD, well, now, you know. this, shit, happens, every day, after day, after week, after...if you want to know, what the last straw was, here it is. ZAHRA, is the catalyst, the beginning, and the end, all in one, as in, THIS WILL CEASE. PERIOD. i know, we don't like to even speak the words, 'vigilanty justice', but, this world is, way overdue for you (NO, not ALL of you; we all KNOW, who WE are, don't we?), spineless, couldn't-care-less, sorry motherfuckers, to get off your soft, pampered asses, and, go out, and, STOP SHIT LIKE THIS FROM HAPPENING TO BEGIN WITH. you KNOW, where the crack houses are, BURN THEM TO THE GROUND! you know, where the rapists, and, wife-beaters, and, child molesters, and, the rest of the monsters are, so, DEAL WITH THEM! before frank's life turned, entirely to shit, he spent the better part of a year, prowling thru drug-war-zones, at 4:AM, looking for KATT, who almost hated him, because he was so kind to her, trying, to save her from, herself, and, the parasites that that fed off of her, and her misery, and her despair. he was up, all night, three or four nights a week, chasing after her, because, NO ONE ELSE WOULD, and he, fell asleep on his job, and, lost a lot of weight, and, he's pretty sure that, everyone thought he, was on the pipe, too. but he wasn't. he just, loved her. and, he lost his job, and, his new car, and, his crib, and, his friends, and, his life, essentially. and, his mind too, as far as most are concerned. the reason he stopped was, because he was killing his mother, and, so, he had to make a choice. and he did. he still feels like he, failed the girl, altho he did do, the best he could. he, at least tried. and, idiot, that he is, he'd probably, do it again, if, everyone didn't keep such a close eye, on him, now. and, that's a big part of how, frank found out, why, he was here, and, that is, to help the ANGELS. they clumped together, in groups, the lost girls, and, frank, gave them rides, and, bought them food, and gave, some of them, knives, which, he now figures, they probably sold, but, it seemed, like a good idea, at the time. never once, did he so much as, touch, one of them. any, of them. ever. he did, get a psycho, ex-boyfriend locked up, and, turned in a bunch of, worthless, crack-dealing, bottom-feeders to, the vice squad. he sure, as hell, did. even considered, a little, BOONDOCK SAINTS kind, of action, but, well, he'd have had to answer to, MOMS, if, he'd got caught, so, he, let that idea go. WOMEN, god's own ANGELS, were NOT, just an afterthought. and if any, fuckhead, out there, thinks, that any of these ANGELS are, anything, less than, god's CROWNING ACHEIVEMENT, said fuckhead, will, be answering, to him, personally, one day. one, fine day. and then, we'll see, who, the real man, is. or, in your case, isn't. that'll do, pig.
Feb. 26, 2011, 3:03 a.m. CST
what the hell is that
Feb. 26, 2011, 3:13 a.m. CST
Just to confirm what others have said.
Feb. 26, 2011, 4:23 a.m. CST
You can tell from the whiteness of the set and the touchscreen panels. Now I'm er, off to deal with the many important things that occupy my life, y,know? Surprised they actually let him on the set - Roddenbury was a pain in the ass to everyone throughout the movies until he died. He was basically sacked as writer on TMP, he leaked the news about Spock dying, leaked the news about the Enterprise being destroyed, and kept pitching a shitty story about the crew going back to prevent Kennedy's assassination as a plot for every film.
Feb. 26, 2011, 8:11 a.m. CST
That version of the bridge was a redress of the Movie Enterprise Bridge seen in STs I-III. Its the same shell but the readouts and boards are all TNG'ized. No more buttons, all backlit, smooth 'touchscreen' design. The redress was abandoned for all new bridge in ST V.
Feb. 26, 2011, 9:34 a.m. CST
...thanks again to President Tom.
Feb. 26, 2011, 9:40 a.m. CST
by puto tenax
Believe these were the first ones from artist Michael Okuda for Star Trek IV, "The Voyage Home". Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the bridges from the prior 3 have working buttons? They worked with plexiglass (soon to be transparent aluminum) to cut down expenses.
Feb. 26, 2011, 9:43 a.m. CST
by puto tenax
Right with you on Majel. What a class act she was at conventions. I spent many times just watching her speak with everyone she could. Long lines were always present when she was in Austin. Great lady.
Feb. 26, 2011, 10:39 a.m. CST
by Kentucky Colonel
But, even though he was a pain in the ass (ask Alexander Courage about royalties he had to split with Roddenberry because of Gene's "Lyrical Contribution") it would have been nice if they'd have let him sit in the captain's chair. I have a photo in a scrapbook (nerd) from USA Today with Gene in the captain's chair surrounded by some members of both casts. I think it was taken at the 100th TNG episode or something. Too bad it's 25 year old newsprint or I'd scan it and submit it my own damned self. For anyone interested in some real good reading about the day-to-day/nuts and bolts behind the scenes shenanigans of TOS check out "Inside Star Trek" by Herb Solo & Robert Justman. There are a few on eBay for about $20 (some well used copies are <$6) and WELL WORTH THE COST. I about shit when I saw the only copy on Amazon (used) for $180. I did fart, though.
Feb. 26, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST
by Kentucky Colonel
Not to be confused with that other guy.
Feb. 26, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST
by Kentucky Colonel
Geeze, I'd have liked to have seen that. Where have the links to all the previous POTDs gone? I don't get a chance to AICN every day, and those were nice to "catch up". Eh?
Feb. 26, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST
That bridge set is the one created for the relaunching of the Enterprise at the end of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. Given that neither Rodenberry, nor Barrett had anything to do with the 5th film, it is likely that this photo was snapped in 1986 on the set of Star Trek IV.
Feb. 26, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST
by Paul Bucciarelli
Fuck you, you racist piece of shit. Just how exactly is Obama an Uncle Tom?
Feb. 26, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST
TMP simply did not have LCARS, none of the bridges did until ST4 (and TNG of course) when Okuda came on the scene.
Feb. 26, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST
Doing 10-13's on teen runaways who are addicted to crack and meth and ice. Calling and dealing with and Threatening Drug Dealers trying to find said Run-Away. Been there, done that. It's a waste of time. You know why. Both parties are to blame "The pusher and the user" Both are just as vile in some respects. It's is very hard to witness a family member or friend go through addiction, and yes some people will actually take matters into their own hands when they discover that Law Enforcement doesn't give a fuck about busting and bringing justice to drug dealers (this is very true) Why would a cop risk being killed to save a junkie who is being their own slef-destructive- When he can still make his quota as an enforcer of the law by pulling over traffic and speed violators. They don't go to work thinking I'm cleansing the world of scum and protecting the good/meek. They see us all pretty much as scum. We live in a world of cowards. Of what of your message I could follow. It was the wrong way, it may be the only way, but it is still the wrong way. There will be no wrath from god. We are the devil. When are you religious fucks gonna figure this out. There is no figure outside of us that is him. No one to blame but yourself for the actions you do! No one! There is no God and there is no Wrath. Recovery is a personal decision, The act of changing comes from within . It is not affected by outside influence (the greatest chance couldnt stpp the golden voice from doing drugs) Outside compassion and drive to save and change people in these shoes- has very little effect if at all any. I never saved anyone kicking in doors and pulling them out of crack-houses. I never rid the world of a dealer by beating their ass or turning them into the narcotics. The person I tried to save eventually saved themselves- they appreciated my compassion and my drive to save them but the choice to stop was their own, and it was a very personal choice, that had nothing to do with my acts to make them stop or get help. I cant follow all of what you said, i don't agree with giving a weapon to a addict. Bringing the cops in starts a paper trail and pretty much nothing else. I fucking hate cops. Most of them- not all- are crooked ego maniacs with a simple high school education. This is where the uneducated jocks go when they preformace abilities in sports a free jump into college. They don't do the public service we asked from them. They catch dealers mostly in traffic and speeding violations or domestic disbute calls- They have to respond to these calls- 10-13's are bullshit. You want to get a cop involved go to the house and start a fight. Then call 911. You will be going to jail by the way. No doubt, and you might get the dealer caught but you wont save the junkie your trying to help, you might make matters worse for them, and yourself. Of course the law knows where the crack-houses are. They don't care. Hell some of them go there trying to get free head from the crack hoes. You have no idea how fucking black this world really is. There is no god to cleanse it. That is your Thumb sucking Linus Blanket talking to you. That's the wish inside of yourself, you hope to be true because all of this- Which is hurting you and someone you love is completely out of your control to change. You are hoping a god will do it for you. He wont. You have to let the addict hit rock bottom. They will either want help one day or they wont. Plain and simple. They will either overcome this or they will die. You cant change it, and God wont either. Sorry. Also this isn't the place to talk of such things. But I feel your pain so I'm just trying to help you understand. Go to an Al-Anon meeting and find some peace.
Feb. 26, 2011, 3:35 p.m. CST
Feb. 26, 2011, 3:57 p.m. CST
...Because he never misses a chance to kowtow to you crackers.
Feb. 26, 2011, 4:50 p.m. CST
He was hardly a one-woman man.
Feb. 26, 2011, 6:47 p.m. CST
Feb. 26, 2011, 7:02 p.m. CST
But then I thought, 'Hey, if I could fuck a bunch of beautiful actress's I probably would'. What the hell.
Feb. 26, 2011, 7:33 p.m. CST
by frank cotton
thanks for taking the time to read it. it was about five years ago that i did that, and you are right about the futility of trying to help those who have, for the most part, just quit, are simply waiting to die, and trying very hard to speed up the process. but i learned one important thing, and that is that, even the hopelessly lost are people, too, or at the least, they were at one time. some will recover, and true, it does have to be their choice, and most, won't. but before all that, i saw them all as not even worth considering, as wholly to blame for where they wer, and what they'd become, and in most cases, of those i met personally, that wasn't entirely true. and while it is also true that, if there weren't addicts, there wouldn't be dealers, it is true that without dealers, or supply, you can't have addicts. this is a generalization, of course, but if i had to put disclaimers on everything i post, well, all i'd have time for would be the disclaimers. again, thanks for reading. i've got all of it @ OBSESSEDARTIST.COM, keyword 'nil', if you'd like to read more. and, at least until HARRY cuts me off, there'll be lots more to come.
Feb. 26, 2011, 8:44 p.m. CST
The great bird of the galaxy was a money-grubbing sex addict. What made Star Trek so great was that the right people ended up working on it. Roddenberry didn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. It wasn't Roddenberry's idea to make Kirk and Spock friends--he hadn't even thought of it until it was suggested to him as a way to keep Shatner's & Nimoy's egos from killing each other. He didn't even create the Klingons for god's sake! Gene Coon did! Just read "Inside Star Trek: The Real Story" by Solow and Justman. Roddenberry was just fucking lucky and in no way a visionary.
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Feb. 28, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST
by Damned if I can login
According to Bob Justman in "Inside Star Trek", the original pilot was rejected for a reason the general public knows nothing about. The popular story is that it was "too cerebral". Bob Justman says the network worried that the original pilot was too erotic. Gene had a rep as a womanizer, and it carried over in studio politics. And Justman says a lot about stuff Gene R. did, such as the womanizing, "incorporating" ideas from others, maximizing his profits (TOS theme lyrics), taking credit where none was due, jumping ship from TOS, and my personal fave....rolling his own, um...ah...."cigarettes". But Justman does say that Gene did manage to get the show on the air, and back in the mid 60's that was truly amazing. Justman and Solow make no secret of the utter *contempt* the studios had for science fiction in that era, so just getting there was an accomplishment.
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