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Paul Greengrass Goes To MEMPHIS!

Published at:  Feb 23, 2011 1:54:45 PM CST

Nordling here.

Deadline is reporting that Paul Greengrass will bring his considerable talents to bear and tell the story of the Martin Luther King Jr. assassination next, in a film titled MEMPHIS. Greengrass will be both writing and directing the project, and the film will be produced by Scott Rudin.

The script, which takes place during the final days of King's life, has been around for a while, but funding has been secured and filming will start in June.  It's unclear whether or not the film will follow King or the surrounding events of his death, and it's also unclear whether MEMPHIS will delve into the conspiracy theories surrounding King's murder.  No casting has been announced, but now that filming will start soon that should only be a matter of time.

Considering how Greengrass has handled true event films before with BLOODY SUNDAY and UNITED 93, I'd be surprised if the film focuses on one character or storyline.  Obviously this horrific event was a turning point for the United States, and I imagine Greengrass would want to cover as much ground as possible - King's life, James Earl Ray, and the events of the day.  Very interested in this one, as UNITED 93 devastated me and I think is the definitive film version of the events of 9/11.  I hope MEMPHIS will be just as definitive.

Nordling, out.



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  • Feb 23, 2011 1:53:40 PM CST

    first

    by osamp1

  • Feb 23, 2011 1:59:29 PM CST

    They should get

    by osamp1

    Jeffrey Wright to play the king. He did a brilliant job in 'Boycott'. But I wouldn't go against no name taking the role.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:00:07 PM CST

    Mackie would be a good choice for the role.

    by tamethecunt

  • Feb 23, 2011 2:01:56 PM CST

    definitive film version of the events of 9/11.

    by tamethecunt

    I really don't understand how folks out there could believe that garbage.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:12:01 PM CST

    DEFINITIVE FILM VERSION? Dead wrong, Nordling.

    by stifler's mom

    United 93 was a grand exaggeration of the events of that day. There is no evidence of a passenger uprising on that plane. Paul Greengrass felt the need to fictionalize that tragic flight, when he could have told any one of the hundreds of TRUE stories of bravery and heroism that came from that day. FUCK him and FUCK that movie.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:13:35 PM CST

    @tamethecunt

    by syn_flood

    It's pretty easy if you believe facts, rather than conjecture.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:22:53 PM CST

    Definitive film version my ass

    by d.vader

    That said, its just his opinion.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:23:33 PM CST

    Also

    by d.vader

    What other non-documentary "film versions" are there? World Trade Center? That movie with Edward Cullen and James Bond?

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  • I'd say it WAS a pretty good representation of what happened on that flight. Please explain what he got wrong...

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:31:48 PM CST

    Imagine an Oliver Stone version of the same story...

    by the dum guy

    Got nothing after that.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:37:00 PM CST

    Here come the Truthers...

    by thommcg

    Ugggh. Go back to watching Loose Change.

    Reply to Talkback

  • and any cunt who complains that they can't understand what's shown on a greengrass movie, they must be mistaking him for Michael Piece Of Shit Bayass or Jar Jar Puke Abrams. Or that cameraman who went wild and undirected who shot QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:40:40 PM CST

    About time...

    by myphdisdoom

    A movie about this was made. I'm looking forward to it. Bloody Sunday is an amazing film you guys should check it out. United 93 was misguided and I think it a good example of how the United States has not done well with 9/11 stories. That movie was simply "Too Soon". I get people not believing the uprising but try and not look at it as a true story, I know it's hard but take yourself out of it. It's actually a good movie it's just people's emotions get into it. Those who believe it didn't happen that way should relax. Look at how Pearl Harbor is portrayed on film. Many more people are starting to believe the attacks were not exactly a full surprise, but you'll never see that put on film. So just take movies as entertainment and if you want to learn more well read a book.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:43:35 PM CST

    United 93 was an incredible cinema experience

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Those dissing it should go back to their DVD copies of Transformers 2 and JJ's Star Trek.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 2:44:37 PM CST

    Best 9/11 conspiracy film?

    by thommcg

    South Parks "Mystery of the Urinal Deuce"... ok, not a "film" but, uhh...

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  • Feb 23, 2011 3:27:25 PM CST

    United 93

    by sgodfrey

    took no more liberties than most of the wartime or political films we all hold as canon. Loose Changers, I got nothing.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 3:29:02 PM CST

    starring matt damon!!!

    by vulturess

  • Feb 23, 2011 3:43:10 PM CST

    I hope it's filmed in Memphis.

    by mr spork

    There have been movies and tv shows set in Memphis lately that haven't been made there.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 3:46:24 PM CST

    oscars london

    by logan1974

    hey anyone know anywhere in london showing the oscars?

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  • Feb 23, 2011 3:53:19 PM CST

    Asi's "redneck" comments

    by d.vader

    Are just a blanket statement indicative of his anti-American stance.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 3:59:27 PM CST

    Asi called Greengrass a "Failmaker"

    by d.vader

    Hehehehe, Freudian Slip?

    Green Zone put me to sleep. Literally.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 4:00:40 PM CST

    bloody sunday

    by emeraldboy

    is a masterpiece. that scene with nesbitt warning the brits towards the end about how they breathed new life into the provos. really makes the hairs stand up on the back my neck. especially that line and you will reap a whirl wind.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 4:02:59 PM CST

    So no one believes that United 93 was shot down?

    by sithmenace

    And the black box was replaced?

    Trust me, I hate that we can't trust our government, but to believe the official story of everything that happened that day is naive. I don't think the government had an active role, but I do believe it was passively allowed to happen so the American people would rally behind Bush and Cheney and their "war". The same thing happened with Pearl Harbor, so we could go to Europe and pull the country out of the Great Depression.

    I also believe 93 was shot down before it could hit whatever target in Washington it was aimed at. They had their war after the towers were hit, and 93 would have served no positive purpose in their agenda.

    The government has been conducting black ops in other countries since the early part of the last century, things we never find out about and probably never will. But the ones that go wrong like Watergate and the Kennedy assassination, prove that these things happen. I can't even be sure the King assassination wasn't a type of Manchurian candidate situation.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 4:05:24 PM CST

    seriously, Asimov, eat my ass

    by stifler's mom

    United 93 is a pandering fairy tale aimed at sentimental rednecks. Even a mediocre melodrama like The Perfect Storm is more competent storytelling than United 93, in that the events of The Perform Storm movie don't directly contradict evidence of what actually happened to the ship.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 4:12:14 PM CST

    god, conspiracy wackos are fucking annoying

    by badmrwonka

    I wish Lord Xenu would just swoop down and take them all away. the worst thing the internet has brought the world is greater access for these ding-dongs to get together and make up more and more nonsense and falsehoods to spread.

    of course, what do I know? I'm just one of those sheep that believes in verifiable facts and logic.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 4:15:08 PM CST

    Truthers - take it somewhere else, lunatics

    by steve rogers

    Seriously, no one wants to hear your bullshit. Fuck off.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 4:15:50 PM CST

    United 93 - flagwaving?

    by steve rogers

  • Feb 23, 2011 4:26:58 PM CST

    Will this movie star Leo DiCaprio?

    by bigpale

  • Feb 23, 2011 4:41:23 PM CST

    God I hate 9/11 conspiracy theorists...

    by kidicarus

    Casting everyone as naive sheep while standing on a podium and proclaiming to know "the Truth" based on conjecture and limited knowledge strung together to make a cool "What If?" scenario.

    Fuck off.

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  • That sir, is gargantuan in the hemisphere of Alex Jones batshit crazy! Is it simply to unimaginable to believe such a tragic thing can occur in these times? I don't want to believe it either but coming up w/ these conspiracy theories about everything is nuts.

    JFK, RFK, the moon, Waco, OKC, 9/11 et, al,. all have interesting theories but that's just what they are. Theories. It' baffling to me how many folks actually believe fairy tales.

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  • I just believe that it was allowed to happen. It's already been proven time and again that your government lies to you, why would something as convenient (to the administration in 2001) be any different?

    All I'm saying is that you can't believe everything the government feeds you. The amount of power and money up for grabs in Washington is too great for the egos running rampant there to do everything in the best interest of the people. They try to fuck each other over on a daily basis, why would they think twice about doing it to people that don't have the power to stop them?

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  • Feb 23, 2011 4:57:27 PM CST

    United 93

    by proevad

    Didn't make me feel any better. If that was it's aim. It failed. Being put in the shoes of the people in charge of responding to that clusterfuck....succeeded.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:01:13 PM CST

    Yes, United 93 was shot down.

    by jefferylebowski

    But don't take it from me, or anybody else on a movie news talkback, or idiots like Asimov. Ask somebody who was in active military service during September 2001, somebody that trusts you enough to speak off the record.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:02:35 PM CST

    So you're saying it's not possible that it was shot down?

    by sithmenace

    Even if the government was completely taken by surprise on 9/11, with three targets hit and a 4th plane headed for an unspecified location, you don't believe the air force would dispatch fighters to take down the plane to prevent further loss of life at whatever target is was heading for? Especially if it was a political or military target?

    I know there are some whacked out conspiracy theories out there about 9/11, most of which are ridiculous, but to consider the military wouldn't shoot the plane down to cover it's ass is naive at best.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:03:18 PM CST

    United 93=Perfect Storm

    by jefferylebowski

    Stiflers Mom is right on the money, United 93 is a gross Hollywood fabrication of a far less inspiring story.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:06:03 PM CST

    What ever the real story was behind united 93...

    by nightvip

    ... the film experience and the quality of the direction was exceptional. An emotional, harrowing film that really delivered. Sometimes we got so caught up in the rationale of real events / true stories it's effects and overshadows the output e.g. a film. Having a director of Greenglrass' talent with this type of source material could be something special.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:10:36 PM CST

    Mattman, the info is all over the place.

    by jefferylebowski

    Like I said, DONT take it from me. If you're close to anybody who was in active service during 2001, ask them.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:13:38 PM CST

    mattman

    by sithmenace

    The first three strikes were relatively close to each other. By the time they realized what was happening, they were only able to get the last plane. The plane also came down, if you remember, in the middle of a field in a rural part of Pennsylvania. Convenient, for many reasons.

    I'm not saying I believe that's what happened, but I also don't think it's completely far fetched. It was discovered later that the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which practically guaranteed escalation of US involvement in Vietnam, was faked. It's not fairy tales, it's our government.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:16:36 PM CST

    Yawn ...

    by ginge_muppet

    "I'm Right"!! ........ "NO, I'm Right" ......

    Bunch of twats .... You all know NOTHING.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:22:42 PM CST

    mattman

    by jefferylebowski

    Nobody needs to be silenced. It's not consipiracy. Just spin. ALL of the people I know who were in active duty at the time of those events believe that the actual fate of 93 is different than what went on record. It's not a huge conspiracy. It's simply political spin. The plane was shot down, and that detail was never publically acknowledged. There you have it.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:26:20 PM CST

    cocknasty_buttstank

    by angel_svn

    Tyler will play MLK and his wife.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:28:20 PM CST

    Just look at the Flight 93's crash site.

    by ganymede3010

    It's not consistent with any other crime-scene before or since. Imagine a cop investigating a murder in your house, and you told the cop that the alleged victim shot at you first, however the cops find no gun residue on his hand. Do you actually think the cop would accept the event as being an "anomally"?

    I don't think so, they'd hall your ass to jail because the facts on the ground don't back up your version of events.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:33:06 PM CST

    Since Greenpants hates America ...

    by angel_svn

    I'm sure you blokes who think United sucked got the wrong impression. It's just a story to Greencraps. He doesn't want to make America look heroic. He wants to make the individuals look heroic. So grow up, and we'll all be okay.

    It was an awesome film.

    And no, the plane wasn't shot down. It was flipped over and hit nearly straight into the ground and disintegrated. Body parts were found every where.

    If you think the government could cover up the carnage they supposedly unleashed on 9/11, you're a billion times more naive than the people you accuse of being naive. And so when you say I'm even more naive than you, you've just added to your naivety. So suck it.

    I imagine Memphis will be about the racist American culture and will attempt to tie that event to the apparent racism today. It will be BS like JFK, but it will be a great film, just like JFK.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:42:02 PM CST

    The Definitive 9/11 Film...

    by tomandshell

    ...is Remember Me, starring Robert Pattinson.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 5:58:31 PM CST

    "Body parts were found every where."

    by starship captain

    Angel_Svn, just because "body parts were found every where" wouldn't DISCOUNT the plane being shot down. It was a fucking plane crash, whether it crashed of its own accord OR took a missile in the side and THEN fell to Earth. Either way, OF COURSE there was debris and body parts every where -- that's simply an obvious end result.

    I don't know if United 93 was or wasn't shot down. But those who can't grasp just HOW MUCH the government -- or more importantly, the military -- were in full blown panic mode on 9/11 are brain dead. And panic modes ALWAYS lead to bad decisions. So I'm sure that to this day there are PLENTY of 9/11 "behind the scenes" decisions that the public still doesn't know about.

    But there is one FACT we've learned since: there were plenty of people in the chain of command who were more than willing to shoot down ANYTHING off course, even passenger jets, rather than risk a hit on another civilian target.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 7:19:23 PM CST

    All you conspiracy theory cunts

    by caruso-stalker217

    You are pathetic. And cunts. That is all.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 7:19:58 PM CST

    United 93 was powerful stuff

    by american mythos

    I watched it on opening night and never once since then. It had such a "real" feel to it, that I was uneasy at the outset, knowing the events to transpire. When it ended I was actually numb for a few moments; even walking back to my car was a surreal experience. It's an amazing film.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 7:25:50 PM CST

    Looking forward...conspiracy theory?

    by rhizomeman

    Looking forward to the movie. I think many on this site need some perspective.

    1. False flag operations are an historical fact (do some research).

    2. The head of the ISI at the time (Pakistani intelligence agency) wired a large sum of money to the supposed lead hijacker Atta shortly before 911 (fact - do some research).

    3. In 1997 Loyd Jowers a jury found Loyd Jowers guilty for complicity in King's murder, along with government agencies (fact).

    I'm not necessarily saying what these facts "mean" but people should base their opinions on substantiated info.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 7:28:07 PM CST

    So the family members who got calls from the passengers were lying?

    by ashokforgiven

    They were all in on the whole thing? OMG CONSPIRACY, LOL.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 8:11:39 PM CST

    Ashokforgiven...

    by starship captain

    The passengers obviously wouldn't be "in on it." The whole point to staging a successful shoot down (and staging a subsequent conspiracy) would be to let them believe, right up to the tragic end, that they were simply people in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

    As a result, they'd then make calls to their families on the ground about the hijackers and their situation, and in turn those calls would make all of the details SOUND more credible. So as for the families being part of a conspiracy -- no, they wouldn't be active participants. But given the circumstances, the end result WOULD still be the same. They would have been tricked into believing certain things, which in turn they'd believe and push on the public for the rest of their lives.

    But just for the record, I do believe United 93 crashed because of the passengers rushing the cockpit. If there's any true conspiracy about 9/11, I think it still rests with all the hidden details about the hijackers and who knew "what" in our government, as to how credible certain threats were, how these guys could have been checked out, etc.

    I still believe to this day there was some MASSIVE behind the scenes butt covering over 9/11, and there are LOTS of government people who deserve to be fired over what happened that day.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 8:33:28 PM CST

    I used to smoke...

    by gwynplaine

    ... Green grass. But I quit. Ah, the good old days.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 8:38:59 PM CST

    More fodder for Identity based theology

    by brobdingnag

    It's hard to keep collectivist statism popular these days. One way is the provide entire classes of people excuses for being unproductive. That is the point of this film.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 9:05:47 PM CST

    Folks, there are huge conspiracies out there.

    by the_choppah

    JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, the Moon, Watergate, Iran Contra, 9/11, the financial "crisis," the ongoing unrest in the Middle East.

    They're all connected. Wake up.

    They're all part of one plan.

    One plan to bring about the next conspiracy theory.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 9:06:33 PM CST

    Now now, brobdingnag.

    by the_choppah

    Don't be so hard on Triumph of the Will.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 9:08:00 PM CST

    Shit I think Fareal got banned

    by d.vader

  • Feb 23, 2011 9:08:30 PM CST

    The Next Great Conspiracy Theory

    by the_choppah

    Coming to FOX prime time this fall!

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  • Feb 23, 2011 9:09:33 PM CST

    United 93 really was shot out of the sky.

    by the_choppah

    By JESUS!

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  • Feb 23, 2011 9:10:43 PM CST

    ... He must have known the TRUTH

    by d.vader

  • Sorry, man.




    *Even though you got me banned, too ....

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  • Feb 23, 2011 9:16:23 PM CST

    Didn't you get banned first?

    by d.vader

    Really, it was YOU who got me banned because I went into another talkback asking the talkbackers there if they knew what you had said that was so offensive they had to ban you for it.

    Stupid me.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 9:32:54 PM CST

    Yeah, whatever.

    by the_choppah

    CHOPPAH's been hitting the wacky tobacky, cut him a break.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 9:35:57 PM CST

    Greengrass has never hated America

    by misterdarcy

    But he unquestionably hated the Bush regime.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 9:50:38 PM CST

    the_choppah

    by brobdingnag

    A very apt comparison given the similarities between the Hitler youth and the collectivist indoctrination going on in public schools. Children forced to participate in songs worshiping Dear Leader. In fact there is a paramilitary youth group dedicated to Obama that meets at the PUBLIC high-school in my neighborhood. Obama Youth, I shit you not, you can find footage of their drills on youtube.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 10:00:18 PM CST

    I heard the Earth was flat...

    by maxjohnson1971

    Must be true.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 10:20:09 PM CST

    All I can say to that, mr ahole ramirez, it this:

    by the_choppah

    Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

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  • Feb 23, 2011 10:33:33 PM CST

    "it this"? "IT THIS"???

    by the_choppah

    CHOPPAH needs to put the pipe down.

    Or a simple little edit function.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 10:37:52 PM CST

    Not a Ghostbusters fan, AHOLE?

    by d.vader

    Its a quote by Rick Moranis when he's possessed by the Keymaster.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 11:06:16 PM CST

    This talkback should be about the KING assassination.

    by dauphin534

    Did any of you know that in 1999 a Tennessee jury found that the 1968 assassination of Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. was the result of a murder conspiracy, and not the act of a lone gunman?

    The real conspiracy of our times is that the media completely ignored one of the biggest stories ever. it took 10 years before I even heard of the fact that the trial had happened at all. I randomly came across the book, Act of State by William Pepper, who was King's lawyer and friend, then became James Earl Ray's lawyer trying to get him an actual trial up until Ray's death, before finally representing the King family in this civil case. The book is filled with tons of evidence from the trial and literally blew my mind. I repeat: A jury ruled this assassination a conspiracy and literally stated that it involved unknown government coconspirators.

    What's most disgusting is that every year in January, America trots out the I Have a Dream speech as if that's all the man ever stood for. A speech he made in 1964. They completely ignore the fact that by the time of his death in 1968 his anti-Vietnam war stance made him a pariah even in the civil rights movement. Many of his allies had turned their backs on him, and yet he was in Memphis working on a broader poor people's campaign that he saw as even bigger than civil rights. The US government and most of America at the time had labeled him a communist(today he would be called a terrorist) who deserved to die and he was under constant surveillance. But today, he's like a Santa Claus figure that comes out every year and says, "ho ho ho, I have a dream!"

    sorry for the rant, people.

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  • Feb 23, 2011 11:20:50 PM CST

    Caruso, I bet you're a birther arent you?

    by ganymede3010

    Here's what I don't understand about you Republicans. A vast majority of you believe President Obama is a Muslim, and he doesn't have a birth certificate to prove he was born in America.

    With that being said, if you ask the same Republicans do they believe 911 was an inside job, they'd say it's impossible, because the CIA, NSA, FBI etc. would never allow a secret like that to be held. Why don't they apply the same standard to their conspiracy theory? You actually believe the FBI, CIA, NSA would allow a foreigner to control our nuclear launch codes?

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  • Feb 23, 2011 11:32:10 PM CST

    ramirez, re:king family forgiveness

    by dauphin534

    Well , for Coretta, by the time of the trial, she didn't think she really had anything to forgive James Earl Ray for. They were all convinced the actual gunman was a sharpshooter police officer in the Memphis PD. If you're at all interested, read the book. Truly crazy stuff. The investigating department cut down bushes and mowed and cleaned the area the shot was probably fired from that same day!

    Anyway, i'm skeptical of this movie getting into any of this. Not if it's a well funded A list movie, which I think this is gonnna be. it will probably get into the vietnam stuff and the sanitation strike, and all the angsty King stuff shaky-cam style, but not the actual circumstances of the shooting. No way.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 12:23:12 AM CST

    WOW IF MEMPHIS TURNS OUT TO BE ANYTHING LIKE BLOODY SUNDAY

    by bringingsexyback

    This'll be an instant masterpiece.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 12:27:03 AM CST

    I think our former great leader said it best...

    by the dum guy

    "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty."

    George W. Bush - 43rd President of the USA

    and...

    "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

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  • Feb 24, 2011 12:37:29 AM CST

    YEP, THE NEOCONS GOT A FREE PASS FOR 9/11

    by bringingsexyback

    Their globalist, Rothschild-backed cabal are busy setting fires around the world to avert a full-scale investigation and to distract from the lingering effects of their Iraq/Afghan misadventures.

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  • Yet it's still blamed on the lone gunman.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 12:44:26 AM CST

    KING WAS LIKELY KILLED FOR HIS ANTI-WAR STANCE

    by bringingsexyback

    Same goes for John Lennon. If there's one thing the military industrial complex doesn't cotton to, it's a peace monger.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 1:58:54 AM CST

    My (previous) post was...

    by the dum guy

    not sarcastic, it was factual.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 2:20:59 AM CST

    I know h

    by padfool

  • Feb 24, 2011 2:20:59 AM CST

    I know ht

    by padfool

  • Feb 24, 2011 2:22:02 AM CST

    I know this is behind the curve

    by padfool

    but just what exactly is it about trying to review films in talkbacks that turns people into cunts? Hmm.

    Also, FM-first-two-posts

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  • Feb 24, 2011 2:40:26 AM CST

    Just logged in

    by proevad

    to see if I was banned and to make a marijuana/911 joke, but you guys covered it already.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 2:49:57 AM CST

    proevad

    by the dum guy

    R

    U

    High?

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  • Feb 24, 2011 3:25:39 AM CST

    Here's my question to conspiracy theorists:

    by industrykiller!

    The conspiracies touted typically would involve a cast of hundreds if not thousands, particularly those on 9/11. How do they keep all those people silent? You have one Bush cabinet members after the other writing books and squawking about EVERYTHING, spilling the beans on the administrations negligence and outright lies, but the workers and peons who fire rockets at commuter planes, collect intelligence then ignore it, blow up civilian buildings, etc. somehow stay silent FOREVER?? Book deals, movies, Diane Sawyer interviews all just waiting a keystroke away and all these people, the AT LEAST hundreds of them, are just someplace keeping their mouths shut? That's patently insane. It just does not make any sense that could even be remotely true with coinciding with reality. Simply put, it just cannot be.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 3:29:29 AM CST

    Question what happened on 9/11 and the insults start flying

    by awepittance

    I don't see many people here calling out 'truthers' in a way that is actually going to lead to a useful discussion. Most people who find 9/11 truth 'conspiracies' distasteful seem to let themselves get overly riled up with emotion.

    If you believe that Jessica Lynch was ganged raped, Pat Tilman was killed by Al Queda, than sure believe that 4 heroic passengers overtook the plane.

    I'm not sitting here saying people who believe that are assholes, but look how often someone who questions the official story gets called an asshole.

    the people who have problems with these questions usually resort to nothing but ad hominem attacks.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 3:31:58 AM CST

    for those interested in MLK theories, look up WILLIAM PEPPER

    by awepittance

    look him up you will not be disappointed,

    he represented the King family in a civil trial of sorts, the king family unanimously believes that James Earl Ray was not the assassin. Don't trust what i'm saying though, go look up Petter, very interesting story. He's kind of like the Jim Garrison of the JFK assassination.


    also interesting tie-in with celeb judge Joe Brown

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  • Feb 24, 2011 3:33:54 AM CST

    re: dauphin534, you beat me to it!

    by awepittance

    thanks for your very informative post, more people should take notice of what you've written. If Greengrass doesn't cover or go into this territory whatsoever in his movie i have to say the guy might have lost his balls a little bit, i hope the praise from the neo-cons for United 93 didn't get to his head too much!

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  • it's that simple. They lied about their inability to do anything to stop the attacks, they lied about the specificity and the frequency of warnings they got regarding hijacked planes being used as weapons. They lied about many more things, things that you'd probably agree with me on such as WMDs in Iraq, the end of combat operations in Iraq, Anthrax being from arab terrorists (oh whoops that might too far out for you even though it's been widely admitted to the be the case)

    I don't know what happened on 9/11, but i know we were lied to about many aspects of it.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 7:24:47 AM CST

    Damon/RFK crossover

    by american mythos

    What studio is making "His Life" (RFK biopic starring Matt Damon) and "Memphis"? If they're the same, and even if they aren't, it would be pretty cool to incorporate crossover cameos of each character into the other's film. They weren't friends--Kennedy did afterall have King's phone tapped--but they were sympathetic allies toward the end, especially after JFK's death and the fact that they embraced many of the same causes: civil rights, poverty, and workers' rights.

    I read this book called "The Last Campaign: Robert Kennedy and 82 Days that Inspired America." It's stunning to see just how engrossed Kennedy was in black culture, to an extent I never knew. There's a scene in the book where, during his presidential campaign, he's meeting in a motel with a bickering group of black activists, including one that would have pretty munch been RFK's equivalent of Reverent Wright had the media been as 24/7 then as it is now (I forget the man's name). Kennedy gets right in their faces in the motel room while they're arguing with each other; he was as passionate as MLK, though in a relatively measured political way.

    I know "His Life" will have to have King scenes in it. They had met and Kennedy did give that speech in Indianopolis on the night of King's death, urging calm among the minorities gathered, many of whom were just hearing of his assassination from Kennedy. He also walked with mourners in King's funeral procession and was of course himself killed the following June. There's a poignant memorial called the Landmark for Peace in Indianopolis that captures just what was lost with the murders of RFK and MLK. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3412/4575661460_a273c33725_z.jpg

    I think it would be great way to tie each film and each man's life together by having a few seconds of each in the other's film. Better than doing it through stock footage.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 7:27:37 AM CST

    Oops, I misspelled Indianapolis

    by american mythos

  • Feb 24, 2011 8:01:52 AM CST

    Emilio Estevez's BOBBY

    by spandau belly

    I never saw it, but apparently despite its subject, it was some weird attempt at a LOVE ACTUALLY multistrained type movie about totally fictitious characters with no connection to Kennedy's assassination, they're just in the same hotel.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 8:32:06 AM CST

    Most conspiracy theorists...

    by nightarrows

    ...are dumb cunts. Many of which stink for lack of personal hygiene (that's not a stereotype but rather based on personal experience), and are as relevant to ANYTHING on this planet as Paris Hilton is to ANYTHING on this planet. Most of them contribute little, if anything, to society (and you can't count "spreading the truth"), and MOST of them are unbalanced whackadoos that should be given meds and monitored by a doctor. The next conspiracy theorist I come across in person to call me a "sheep" in that agitated, "I took 1st year philosophy and Poly Sci so I know what I'm talking about" tone, gets a fucking punch in the throat.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 8:50:25 AM CST

    Yeah, BOBBY was very... weird.

    by american mythos

    It had excellent performances (even Nick freakin' Cannon came off pretty well), and had a brisk enough pace to get you through it quickly, but the characters had zero depth and the stories were ones I found hard to care about, even given the subject Estevez chose to weave them around. It was obvious the film was made with care and effort, but even then it was so lacking in ambition I've only seen it once. It's hard to believe there's never been a definitive big screen film about MLK or RFK. I'm glad to see these movies are finally getting made.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 8:53:01 AM CST

    THIS WILL BE AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!

    by mainman2001

    No doubt in my mind. Flight 93 was one of the best movies of the new decade(top 5) and it captured that day to a fucking T( I was living in Brooklyn when everyone from the Towers came over the bridge to my street.)

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  • Feb 24, 2011 9:50:33 AM CST

    I think its about time most americans were told..

    by emeraldboy

    what happened to JFk, rfk, Edward Moore kennedy and his political stitch up. and Martin Luther King. Bobby was one of the worst films I have ever had to sit through. An irish tv station broadcast an exemplary and illuminating documentary about Robert Kennedy and how because of his socialist causes he was deemed an enemy of the us state. the state blames Sirhan sirhan. and keeps him locked up. in another documentary it explained the real reasons why the kennedy brothers were shot dead. It had to with the over throw of castro. There were a team of a bout 12 cia operatives sent to cuba by John Kennedy to take castro down. six of these operatives were killed. and remaining six were left behind. when they came back to the us these 6 men were furious and plotted revenge for their abandonment by kennedy. so some say it was the cia and some it was the mob who killed john kennedy. regarding Robert Kennedy. people blame sirhan sirhan, and he was there on the day and was sent there on behalf of the syrian govt to tell them to get out of palestine. and the middle east. but i think the state played its part. There is a picture of a dying kennedy on the floor. the man towering over kennedy is reportedly the real killer and was expert marksman. who ended up indoneasia. the us state came down on sirhan sirhan. there was a young camera man who saw something. his film was taken and was later destroyed. that guy fought the lapd and the judgement was damning 11 police officers were indited on tampering, perverting the course of justice, destruction of evidence and other serious charges. these 11 officers appealed that case. the outcome was unknown.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 10:09:09 AM CST

    I guess that makes me a cunt. Deal with it.

    by jawsfan

    I believe James Earl Ray was the patsy in the MLK assassination.

    I don't believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.

    I think the "official story" behind the 9/11 attacks is largely bullshit.

    I do believe we landed on the moon.


    If that makes me a cunt, then I'm a cunt and I could give a shit if you disagree with me. I am an intelligent, educated, rational adult and the official 9/11 account is largely bullshit and I will go to my grave believing that.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 10:58:42 AM CST

    Um, This Is A Movie Website Guys...

    by freebeer

    As for Memphis, Terrence Howard for Martin Luther

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  • Feb 24, 2011 11:45:22 AM CST

    Alright, I'd go that far awepittance

    by industrykiller!

    fair enough

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  • Feb 24, 2011 12:09:23 PM CST

    prove the conspiracy

    by shaner jedi

  • Feb 24, 2011 12:13:02 PM CST

    9/11? Again? Really??

    by harryknowlesnonexistentinceptionreview

    That shit was almost 10 fuckin' YEARS ago... get over it! Life goes on. Geez, in 1951 people weren't still obsessing over Pearl Harbor. Conservatives are so goddamn anal about EVERYTHING!

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  • Feb 24, 2011 12:28:26 PM CST

    Everyone knows that Hoover was behind King's assassination.

    by stalkeye

  • To kill a Pacifist who would never advocate violence against his enemies. And not to mention those tapes about King's adultery courtesy of the FBI because Homo Hoov didn't approve of Martin's stance for Civil Rights? or mostly because he was Black?

    The CIA or the KKK knew better not to make a assassination attempt on Malcolm X's life but instead he was taken out by his own people mostly due to jealosy and the hypocrisy of allah jah muhammed.

    Greengrass has potentual and I liked both United 93 and yes, The Green Zone but doing a movie about that tragic day is like opening old wounds don'tcha think?

    What's next, a Roots remake...


    ....? (don't get any ideas Hollyweird!)

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  • Feb 24, 2011 12:46:48 PM CST

    emeraldboy you know, normally I would say..

    by stalkeye

    ...it's just another conspiracy theory, but i wouldn't be suprised if it were factual. (the truth behind the Kennedy's assassinations.)

    I also heard that the brothers were responsible for King's wiretaps.Ergo, they are not the patron saints of the Democratic party that many are quick to believe.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 12:47:06 PM CST

    as george bush said:

    by eddie_dane

    Yes. Quite simple to pull off, really. All I had to do was have explosives planted at the base of the towers, then on 9-11 we pretended like four planes were being hijacked when really we just rerouted them to Pennsylvania then flew two military jets into the World Trade Center filled with more explosives and shot down all the witnesses in Flight 93 with an F-15 after blowing up the pentagon with a cruise missile. It was only the world's most intricate and flawlessly executed plan ever.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 12:58:30 PM CST

    Funniest (and revealing) scene in HBO'S Rat Pack Movie/Bio.

    by stalkeye

    The Kennedy brothers are having Ice Cream at Frank (Sinatra's) Mansion.

    John: "Bobby, how do feel about mixing Peach and Chocolate"? *Grins*


    Bobby: "Oh, I'm against it".


    Both laughs.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 2:54:45 PM CST

    eddie_dane

    by sithmenace

    Like I said, most conspiracy theories are retarded.

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  • Feb 24, 2011 6:22:26 PM CST

    It's not about conspiracies

    by rhizomeman

    The overwhelming majority of 911 truthers are simply demanding a new "independent" investigation to answer many unanswered questions - the families of the victims deserve that.

    The "conspiracy" - that 9 Saudis who could barely fly smaller planes and controlled by Bin Laden from a cave hijacked four planes and tried to crash all, etc... was PROMOTED by the Bush Admin. Time to do some research, carry on...

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  • X to the zibit!

    he's a deadringer for MLK and if u don't like his voice then he won't pimp ur civil rights movement.

    Love,

    -Xzibit

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  • Feb 25, 2011 6:46:39 AM CST

    Ice Cube for MLK

    by shubniggorath

    STRAIGHT OUTA MEMPHIS!

    ...oh wait. Kid's movies now. Damn

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  • Feb 25, 2011 12:15:07 PM CST

    An Intriguing Way to Blend the Races

    by _maltheus_

    Since with Greengrass's crappy shaky, quick edit bullshit, you won't be able to tell the black people from the white. We will all truly be one!

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