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Confirmed: D.J. Caruso To Direct PREACHER!

Beaks here...

Looks like Peter Sciretta's source was correct. D.J. Caruso, the sometimes-decent/sometimes-horrible company man behind THE SALTON SEA, DISTURBIA, TAKING LIVES, TWO FOR THE MONEY, EAGLE EYE and I AM NUMBER FOUR has announced via Twitter that he will direct the Neal Moritz-produced neutering of Garth Ennis's deliriously sacrilegious graphic novel PREACHER. And with that, I'm no longer looking forward to PREACHER.

Not that anyone who's read the comic ever was. There's just no way Ennis's unrepentantly profane tone could be served by a major studio production. I'm sure screenwriter John August - who penned the adaptation - did his best to retain some of the material's dangerousness, but the PREACHER I loved worked because it wasn't afraid of catapulting itself way over the line. Done right, PREACHER would be NC-17 - and that just ain't gonna happen.

But by all means start fantasy casting!

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  • Feb. 22, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    CONFIRMED....get on with this fucking film

    by BILLY

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    I still give DJ CARUSO credit just becasue of Salton Sea

    by BILLY

    It was pretty cool.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 2:47 p.m. CST

    DJ Caruso sucks fucking balls

    by Sardonic

    He's only slightly better than hacks like PTA.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST

    I've got the Feaver

    by loki965

    If we're going to neuter it let's neuter it right. Cast Justin Bieber in every major role.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST

    and by PTA I actually meant Paul W.S. Anderson

    by Sardonic

    You know, the shitty Paul Anderson.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST

    So this is going to be Constantine again right?

    by dastickboy

    Just so I can set my expectation accordingly.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Dwayne McDuffie, RIP

    by Terrence

    Man, totally out the blue with that bullshit. Miss the guy already.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Hey....I know a great way to make a good PREACHER film:

    by Fuzzyjefe

    You write the script, hire a director, actors, and all the other crew; you shoot the hell out of the thing and edit it together....and throw it out the fucking window and just read the comic.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST

    He DID just work with Timothy Olyphant!

    by popeofchilitown

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:09 p.m. CST

    No way is this film is going to be anything other than shit!!

    by Gabba-UK

    First admendment or not. *spoilers* This is going to be so watered down, so insipid and devoid of anything that made the books so good in order to prevent the right-wing religious nutters from launching a holy crusade against it that if will be Preacher in name only. Seriously just the amount of animalistic fucking in it will set their copies of the bible alight. And what the hell will they make of a desendant of Christ being an inbred, moronically stupid fucktard killed by an obese member of the church falling on him?? This film will be a waste of celluloid.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Just read the 1st 3 books and man was that fun

    by korkie70

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Yep, somewhere Rachel Talalay is saying "Fuck!"

    by Monkey_King

    since she was attached to direct this like, what, 10 years ago? Ben Affleck was rumored to be playing Preacher then, with Elijah Wood as Arseface. A lot has changed since then. Methinks Paul Rudd could pull off Preacher.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Hey korkie70...

    by Fuzzyjefe

    You're in for a treat, 'cause that shit's just gettin' warmed up.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST

    I hope its The Salton Sea DJ Caruso and not the Eagle Eye DJ Caruso

    by JackSlater4

    This budget doesn't have to be huge, they should be able to make it R. NC-17 is stupid, when I go to the movies and parents have their children in there watching Bam Margera pull out his 3D cock and piss in their faces, what's the fucking point. The MPAA can give anything an R, and ever since they started adding reasons (R for graphic violence, drug use, etc.) We shouldn't still need NC-17.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Okay - I'

    by johnnybronto

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Rufus Sewell...

    by Desk

    10 years ago.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:25 p.m. CST

    No way is this happening

    by MrEkoLetMeLive

    I believe the movie's getting made as much now as I did when I read Sam Mendes was going to direct it.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:26 p.m. CST

    The coolest comic in history watered down for the masses

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    Good luck with that.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Spoiler Alert

    by dznutzforu

    Some of the things he does in that book just get under my skin and bother me like nothing else I've ever experienced. When he tells the guy to 'go fuck himself' and the other guy on the beach who has to count all the grains of sand! I remember thinking neither one deserved the torture he puts on them! It's a very powerful book and yes it can't be done by a major studio. I always thought that perhaps it could be done pretty good as an HBO series, though. There's just so much there. Even a three hour movie would leave out 75% of the stuff.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Okay - I'll Bite... Casting.

    by johnnybronto

    Jesse - Clive Owen Tulip - Katee Sackhoff Cassidy - Colin Farrell Saint of Killers - Javier Bardem (I mean, come on) Herr Starr - Terry O'Quinn God - Russel Brand .... Sigh. If only. If this movie happens at all, it's going to be studio driven pile of crap instead of a passion project (Like Peter Jackson and LOTR). Will probably end up starring Keanu Reeves or Will Smith. FML. I'm a huge fan of the comic and would rather this movie not happen at all than be half assed.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:31 p.m. CST

    PREACHER doesn't need to be NC-17 at all

    by slone13

    R rated would work fine.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Nathan Fillion IS Saint Of Killers

    by schadenfreudian

    There you go.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:40 p.m. CST

    The unfortunate truth is that 'dream casting'

    by Fuzzyjefe

    isn't all that possible with this one. I mean, in the book, both Jesse AND Tulip are in their mid-to-late 20s, with Tulip being a couple/three years older. Jesse ran away from Angelville when he was what.....seventeen? They weren't together ALL THAT LONG before he was brought back home, and it had been five years since then when the story starts. So expect a young Jesse & Tulip. Now...the Saint.....that can be whatever bad-ass you want. Cass is ambiguous as well.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    I'm expecting something along the lines of Jonah Hex

    by rev_skarekroe

    I mean, I hope I'm wrong...

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST


    by JackSlater4

    I bet he is pretty busy these days though, and I'd rather see him play Eddie in the Dark Tower

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    they should cast against type...

    by schadenfreudian

    Justin Beiber as The Saint Of Killers.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    If they cast Shia Lebeouf as Jesse...

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    God will laugh his ass off.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Cass really would be the role of a lifetime for Colin Ferrel

    by JackSlater4

    But he's already playing a vampire in Fright Night and looks awful as a blond

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST


    by Fuzzyjefe

    Maybe Beiber as God. 'Cause God knows, he's EVERWHERE these days.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST

    January Jones for Tulip

    by JackSlater4

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Rufus Sewell

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    should have had this a few years back. Always thought he'd have been perfect.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST

    in a 20 part 2 year run on HBO

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    of course. A two hour Preacher film? Get ta fuck!

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Elijah Wood could still play arseface

    by JackSlater4

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST


    by johnnybronto

    Is all that comes to mind in this news....

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Katie Sackoff as Tulip. Like it.

    by Gabba-UK

    Saint of killers - Micky Rourke. Jessie- Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Herr Starr- Hugh Laurie. God- David Mitchell. But like I say, this film ain't going to made anything close to the books.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST


    by -Halfscan-

    Shit director. I was actually interested when Mendes was circling the project a while back, now... not at all.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST


    by jasper Stillwell

    I'm really glad you said that, I thought it was just me! Because everyone I know seems to love this book and, like a lot of Ennis' stuff, to me it rarely rises above shock value. Each to their own I guess.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST

    I have a feeling that if this DOES actually happen

    by Fuzzyjefe

    that Arseface is gonna be the first character to go. He does NADA to move the story along, and Sheriff Root would be just fine without him. And kiss the Meatman storyline goodbye too. And the sex detectives. I mean it...even if they went EPIC TRILOGY with this, there's SO MUCH that 'could be' excised.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST


    by ORIONgods

    hollywood can't u let me be happy once

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST

    when the Event gets cancelled, Jason Ritter will need a job

    by JackSlater4

    I think I like Jason Ritter for Jesse

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST

    I'm not normally one of them haters...

    by Bvc79

    ...but this is not going to work as a movie, at all. It should have been a mini-series on HBO :(

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:01 p.m. CST

    i like Olyphant or Hamm for Jesse's dad

    by JackSlater4

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:07 p.m. CST

    It'll be Timothy Oliphant

    by Datascream

    mark my words. And not really a bad idea either.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:11 p.m. CST

    oh my...

    by Koyaanisqatsi

    Seriously, people with any kind of good taste all know that everything that takes place in the comic after "Not enough gun" is stupidity of the highest degree. You will be hard pressed to find another comic series that gets that retarded that fast and then manages to get worse before it ends. It's too bad because up until then it's good harmless fun.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:13 p.m. CST

    so it's going to be a teen flick then

    by D o o d


  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Controversy does not sell

    by beastie

    Dogma, Fight Club, Showgirls, Kick-Ass and so on. Americans seem to flock to controversy in the tabloids, but as soon as they have to pay $9.00 a ticket for matinee, they avoid it. I'd imagine this would/will flop no matter who directs it. Churches will boycott, it'll be all over Fox News, psychologists will give do reports about how it affects, and the hype will boil into the stratosphere, but ultimately, not many people will see it. I don't understand why Hollywood keeps trying to make this.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:21 p.m. CST

    This is gonna suck major testes...

    by Mariusz

    Caruso's ONLY good film was his 1st: Salton Sea. He's followed that up with turd after fuckin' turd! Preacher is arguably one of the greatest comics ever and this was never gonna work as a film anyway. Premium cable network was the only way to go with it. One word comes to mind with this announcement, fellow geeks: DESECRATION.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:21 p.m. CST

    But will there be a LOOM?

    by johnnybronto

    This is going to get the WANTED treatment. Guaranteed. The oven mitt says you have to die.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Arseface will now be known as...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...Butthead. Cassidy will now sparkle in sunlight. Jesus' retarded descendant will now just be... Jesus. Saint of Killers will now be an angry southern sheriff. No animal buggery will be tolerated. That is all.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Well, as bad as it'll no doubt be...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview way it can be worse if that HBO series directed by that idiot who directed Daredevil and Ghost Rider had come to fruition.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:29 p.m. CST

    great read over at hit fix

    by stringerbell

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Kevin Spacey for Jesse!

    by blackwood

    Haha, remember when? I don't know, Hollywood. I just don't know anymore. Maybe it will work. Uwe Boll made a two-star film once, so anything is possible.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:31 p.m. CST


    by maxin n relaxin

    theres no way this movie will happen the way any of us want it to

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Re: This movie is unfilmable.

    by johnnybronto

    They said the same thing about watchmen. It just takes the right director to be passionate about the material and it would be made. As of now the film might just be unwatchable.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:40 p.m. CST


    by originalmemflix

    The Saint of Killer's back story CUT! Cassidy's beheading: Cut! Preacher cutting bald head guy's (whose name escapes me) head to look like a dick: CUT! Making the scene where Bald Headed guy gets raped in the alley, funny: CUT! the scene where Bald Headed guy gets raped in the alley: CUT!

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:44 p.m. CST


    by rob5d4

    WHY!! WHYY!!! Horrible news I dont care who is cast as who, it's gonna be fucking ruined just like every fucking cool thing business jerkholes get ahold of. Why is it so difficult to not douche-up real art.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Must remember to miss this...

    by ChickenStu

    Sounds shit.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Fuck you, Hollywood

    by UtopiaComplex

    For making one of the single worst choices of director for one of the greatest original comic stories ever published. This would have been a challenge for even an accomplished director. Now, I'll be surprised if it's much better than Jonah Hex. Crossing my fingers what we'll at least get Olyphant in the lead, even though he's a bit old for the part now. I'm just going to imagine what Sam Mendes may have accomplished with James Franco (pure fantasy).

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:02 p.m. CST

    DJ Caruso does NOT suck

    by D.Vader

    And the reason I give is the excellent sex scene he directed with Angelina Jolie in "Taking Lives". Can't hate the guy that much for providing such excellent Bank filler.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST

    watchmen was unfilmable

    by maxin n relaxin

    but they did it anyway, and completely fucked it up. it should be at the very least a mini series. same with preacher. theres just too much content. maybe not unfilmable, but definitely not made for theatres

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST


    by KGB3317

    Well, this news is not cool at all. But if it has to be done this way, then Olyphant for Custer I guess.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:08 p.m. CST


    by ToshiroShimura

    Precher is without a doubt one of the best comics ever created. I heard rumblings before about an HBO series, which would have been fantastic: every issue could have been an episode, and the detail needed to give the adaptation justice, would have been there. HBO was a bunch of pussies though, and figured vampires were a safer gamble compared to blasphemy. Alas, we now get a watered down, 2 hour max adaptation, that could only shit on the story, themes and meaning behind the greatest comic in the last twenty years. Consider it boycotted

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Re: Johnnybronto

    by johnnybronto

    The article asks for fantasy casting. Some might be a kind of reach, but then again these are off of the top of my head. I think Katee Sackhoff for Tulip and Colin Farrell for Cassidy are spot on for what their respective roles would require. Do you have a better suggestion(s)? I mean this is all theoretical at this point. I've seen all the actors in several roles, I think they have the appropriate range.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:10 p.m. CST

    D. Vader makes a good argument.

    by KillDozer

    All depends on the casting of Tulip O'Hare now...

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:13 p.m. CST

    UtopiaComplex, you're being a bit overdramatic

    by D.Vader

    "Fuck you, Hollywood by utopiacomplex For making one of the single worst choices of director for one of the greatest original comic stories ever published." Uhhh, there's a list miles long of director choices that would have been MUCH much worse.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Well at least he won't be directing Y: The Last Man!

    by Andy Pandy

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Casting means shit

    by ToshiroShimura

    Regardless of who they cast in what role, this movie cannot work. I don't care if the very best actors, who already have a love for the source material, are cast in the most perfect melding of actor and role, this will not work. Unless they plan on making at least 6 movies (which they certainlly are not) forget it

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST

    At least it's now Uwe Boll.

    by johnnybronto

    So say we all?

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST

    NOT Uwe Boll rather.

    by johnnybronto


  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:18 p.m. CST

    I agree, this is not something that can be condensed into one movie.

    by johnnybronto

    I really liked the idea of a multi-part series on HBO or another premium channel. Best part of being on TV? It won't be in fucking 3D.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:20 p.m. CST

    So say we all, johnnybronto

    by ToshiroShimura

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:21 p.m. CST


    by MainMan2001


  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:34 p.m. CST


    by raidahguy

    Hollywood hits me square in the nuts again and walks away without a care in the world...

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:45 p.m. CST

    They won't greenlight Bioshock?

    by moorE12

    But somehow someone will get behind Preacher??? Is this going to be direct to DVD?

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:52 p.m. CST

    It would be best if

    by deelzbub

    they focused (filmed) on the first leg of the story, and alluded to everything else. If it makes money come back and do a sequel. Dont try to shorten the whole thing into one movie.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Which quality actors would even touch this movie.

    by moorE12

    This movie just cannot happen in Hollywood. The subject matter won't fly.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Shia labeouf as Jesse Custer

    by Duka


  • Feb. 22, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST

    What?? Michael Bay was'nt available?

    by drdoom_v

    What about Roland Emmerich, PT Anderson or Joel Shumacher? Seriously why even make it if you are going to FAIL so early in the production?---Just take the production money and give it to the homeless. There ya go!

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Let's all agree on a PG-13 Preacher. That will be fun for everybody!

    by otakuoverlord

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 6:23 p.m. CST

    You'd think Walking Dead would've illustrated...

    by brodiebruce_405

    ...that TV miniseries is the only way to do justice to the story. Issue per show, a graphic novel per season, it would be beautiful. A movie will stink. Nic Cage as Custer?

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 6:31 p.m. CST

    I'd bet money on no Arseface

    by PorkChopXpress

    They'll excise the whole Arseface subplot...guaranteed.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    no farrel for cass

    by Bryan

    Cillian Murphy all day fools and a black haired Charlie Hunnam from sons of anarchy for the preacherman

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 7 p.m. CST


    by Bryan

    not only are they both physicly alike their respective characters, they are both cheap and could keep the budget down allowing for a balls out R rating

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST

    If you look at the violence...

    by Lobanhaki2

    in Preacher, it's just absolutely NC-17 nasty. So, yeah, I expect it'll get toned down. But really, folks, naughtiness doesn't require fullbore blood and guts. It's the naughtiness that made Preacher fun. The real question is whether they're willing to step on as many dicks as the series stepped on. There are just so many people who will get offended by the content in those books that it's not funny.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Somehow I don't see this working out well

    by toshiro-solo

    I can't see a major studio putting any serious money behind this without watering it down severely. We're generally pretty OK with depraved sex and violence in movies, but when you mix those things with RELIGION? Shit tends to hit the fan. For fuck's sake, think of the messed up shit in this movie: <p> SPOILERS <p> An angel and a demon fuck and create an entity that's essentially as powerful as God. God exists, and he's pretty much a petty, useless dick most of the time. A vicious killer is made a saint and ends up killing God. Jesus has a living descendent because he was fucking the womens. That last living descendent is a blatantly inbred retarded kid who flings his own poo around and repeatedly says "Humper-di-doo." This last living descendent is killed when a gigantic fat man who is pretty much the Super Pope falls from a helicopter and squashes him. The gigantic fat Super Pope also quite often eats just for fun and then purposefully vomits his food back up. And these are just the things that touch directly on the religious pieces of the book. That doesn't get into men fucking meat-women, gay-ass Anne Rice vampires, sex detectives, unbelievably fucked up sex parties, cannibalism, Arseface, penis-looking-heads, or any of a dozen other fucked up things that could be brought up. This is not filmable in a non-neutered manner with a major studio. Don't care who's cast. Don't care who's directing. Leave it on the page. And this isn't like LOTR where the concern is the volume of material (although God knows there IS that concern, too). The concern here is the tone of the material. I just don't see how it can be done.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Not interested in seeing the afterbirth...

    by AidanJames

    of what is possibly one of the best pieces of literature being smeared across the movie screens of the world. But this will be at least the third time around that it ends up in development hell so there's really no need to worry. At worst it'll get studio-pandered down so far that they wont even be able to call it "Preacher." But seriously: Fuck anyone who thinks the story can be done properly in anything less than at LEAST a good 10 hours of screen time.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Preacher? Artistic? I guess...

    by Johnno

    But I've know some artists throw actual shit at a wall claiming to depict Christian themes and social commentary and claim it is art... And I suppose you are free to attend their exhibits too... Having read a few issues of this book, I can tell you it's just your typical 'Let's take religion and all things sacred and twist it all up and make it all gorey and sex filled and blasphemous and controversialize it so comic book lovin hipsters will be like, "Omigosh! Dude! You like totally shat all over religious people's dearly held beliefs! That'll show 'em! HAhaah rock on! Have you guys read Battle Pope? lolololol Ohhh social commentary!!! Deeeeep maaaan!!!!" Hell, actually its so juvenile in concept and tries so hard to be alternative and indie and purposely provocative that it is simply laughable on the level of a poorly done exploitation film with chainsaws and girls gone wild and hobos with shotguns and maybe even zombies if those were popular at the time and everything under the sun. As in, it tosses everything in there it can like there was a checklist of shit that needed to cover all the bases, you can practically see Garth Ennis checking it off with every page to ensure it meets his target market's expectations. Actually, bastardizing this film might make it better and more respectable to watch and waste my time on. Jeez louise. Here's a reality check. Yeah as you might expect, religious people won't like this. Actually anyone with any taste for anything above shallow exploitative takes on religion wouldn't. In fact I'm betting religious people probably just won't care. Ooooo a blasphemous whackily over the top film, we haven't encountered something like that before! Some of you might be imagining some big controversy with people picketing this, but hahaha, no... Unless the marketing goes out of its way to offend them, everyone will pretty much ignore it. Preacher is the cumulative effort of the been there done that school of ways to offend religious people and get rich tryin'. I'm all for being true to the source material. But this one is only intellectual and artictic in the same way that the original Speed Racer is considered an animated masterpiece. In other words, bullshit. Change it up however you like, it'll definately be better, or better yet, respect the fans of it and not do it. Either way I'll be happy. Read Hellblazer instead. But I guess there's nothing wrong in liking campy poorly conceptualized premise comics either... They also have their inherent entertainment value. Maybe if you're lucky Preacher might be made into a nice hentai anime OVA. Hey, the pointlessly raunchier the better, right? Isn't that pretty much what Preacher is? If youre gonna do this movie right, you might as well just make a collage of the offensive scenes without any context whatsoever, I bet that'll make it more edgy and provocative. Well y'know what? I'll give Preacher some credit in the 'artistic' department. At least the dialogue was well written and interesting things kept happening and the artwork is digestable. As a comic book, it can be seen as influential and 'relevant', but Watchmen this ain't. And there's really not much substance here to its main concept except "Oooo let's be edgy!" Here's a tip. If you're trying to get other people interested in graphic novels... don't bother with Preacher, by and large people will see it for the hollow attention seeking thing that it is. Unless they're of 'that' sort... you know those ones... Anyway, why do I feel the need to say this much about it? Did Garth Ennis offend my religious sensibilities you wonder? Well I am kinda pissed that I checked this one out based on such 'high' recommendations, but I honestly can't take the thing seriously. These graphic novel things aren't cheap. Then again I'm talking about the hardcover... Thankfully you can get them at cheaper prices where I am. Support your local comic stores kids. Better deals and selection on books than retail. Give me a call when Ennis does one called 'Imam.' At least this will be a little different...

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 9:32 p.m. CST

    I'm Expecting an Abomination...

    by Bald Evil

    ...that makes the movie version of 'Watchers' look like 'The Godfather'. I have no hope for this being anything more than endurable. And even that's a faint hope. If we're lucky it'll be no worse than 'Legion'. Which was terrible.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Constantine was a great movie

    by WhatTheHellHappenedToMe

    Just not a great Hellblazer movie. That said, it's *still* probably the best Hellblazer movie capable of being made. Some shit just ain't meant to be a movie.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 10:34 p.m. CST


    by WhatTheHellHappenedToMe

    This! A thousand times, this.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST

    oh fuck why

    by Smack_Teddy

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 11:24 p.m. CST

    another dream completely raped/shredded

    by Smack_Teddy

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 11:26 p.m. CST

    We will always have the comics, they can't take away from us

    by Smack_Teddy

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 11:26 p.m. CST

    ... We will always have the comics, they can't take that away from us

    by Smack_Teddy

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Is it going to be the whole story in one movie?

    by shitstorm23

    I can see cutting out a bunch and only telling the main storyline, but would they do that or try to do a Push/Jumpers type thing where they plan on doing sequels if people go see it?

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Sooo....are they gonna try to fit it all into one movie?

    by sonnyfern

    I mean there's a part of me that thinks it COULD be done...just cut out all the filler and stick to the main plot of the book, that means a hell of a lot can be gone...but there's a lot of that book that doesn't NEED to be in there for the story to play out. Skip the New York bit at the start and cut right to Jesses family, skip most of the stuff in the middle and get right to Cassidys past...skip a lot of crap towards the end and get right to War In The Sun and Alamo. Gonna be interesting to see how they tackle it...and if they blow it...well shit was always have the books.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 12:29 a.m. CST

    They've also, nearly, almost, finalized The Catcher in the Rye...

    by The Dum Guy

    Not really, but I'm sure Hollywood will fuck that up as well. Anyone else try to watch I AM NUMBER 4, I left after the first 30 minutes, so I'm not sure how it all played out..?

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 12:44 a.m. CST

    on second thought

    by Bryan

    after dos equis and darts i need to say tom hardy for jesse with hunnam as a back up

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 12:55 a.m. CST

    johnno is a simpleton who can't read Preacher properly

    by Smack_Teddy

    and gets blinded and spazzed out by all the flashing lights of gore sex violence and taboo subject matter being matched to religion. Don't listen to him if you've never tried Preacher before. Its fucking awesome.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Cast of Preacher

    by Sean Bray

    I think the cast of the Crazies plus the guy that played the creeper in Jeepers Creepers would make for a watchable cast.

  • is Meg Ryan in Top Gun now.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 1:09 a.m. CST

    Oh johnno! You're Soooo cultured!

    by ClaireRedfield

    So glad you can rise above this shallow exploitative crap story that you couldn't be fucked to read beyond a "few issues". Your admittedly ill-informed opinion and kneejerk reaction to "offensive" imagery is a goddamned inspiration to right thinking Christian Americans everywhere. You, sir, have an insight that is to be admired. Your overly generalized opinion of those who enjoy reading the book is enlightening. It serves to illustrate not only the poor taste of those sad souls, but also what a judgmental douchebag you are. I salute you!

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 1:52 a.m. CST


    by TravisBickle

    Please. For the love of God, just DON'T. This is almost as bad as when Mark Steven Johnson was attached. But that's not saying much, as when MSJ was attached I almost put a gun to my head. Our only hope now is for me to make it in the film business and head a "let's pretend the other ones didn't happen" remake. Wish me luck, guys.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 2:11 a.m. CST


    by TravisBickle

    Ha, actually I could see Paul Rudd as Jesse. Recently I thought of Joseph Gordon Levitt as Jesse, and (somewhat obvious) Cillian Murphy as Cassidy (although Colin Ferrell wouldn't be all bad). Oh, and there's a long list of actors that could easily fit O' Starr, but the answer is obvious: GARY OLDMAN.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 2:18 a.m. CST

    I never like the Preacher that much

    by tomimt

    It always felt like a piece of work written by a man, who was pissed off after being restrained by Marvel/DC rules of writing friendly superheroes.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 2:47 a.m. CST

    I loved Preacher man

    by mutombo

    Seriously. Although now I do see the criticism of some of the talkbackers above and sure, it's sometimes going overtly 'Grindhouse' in a couple of places and it can be campy. But for me it was always about friendship at the heart. One of the few graphic novels that I know of which had laugh out loud moments too. For me it has those good things which weigh up against the bad (the whole plot with the bald angry guy, I forgot). I like that it's kicking against religion. I like the fact that it's an original take on the buddy/romance/road movie genre. I like the humor. And yes, I like the fact that it brings out the boy inside me; the warm fuzzy feeling of having friends and being able to cause havoc and kick people's asses because you're with friends. If Caruso gets the heart of the film, which for me is to make every man feel like an adventurous boy again who's dealing with his friends and love life, while watching a Preacher kick God's ass, he'll have done his job. But we all know it's just going to be about the ass kicking. Fuck you Michael Bay.

  • Well it wasn't. It was just him doing his own thing. Admittdly he was pissed out at many aspects of his roman catholic surroundings when growing up i think<p>but i find it really sad that some people cant see past the surface of preacher or the fact its 'taboo' to peoples more conservative tastes.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 4:12 a.m. CST

    I don't give a shit about this movie.

    by V'Shael

    I loved the book. They will always stand. But if this ain't being done in a mini-series, then I just don't care. Maybe one day, a network like STARZ, or AMC, will tackle it. They seem to be the only places to go to now, for decent entertainment. Hollywood has disappeared up its own asshole.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Nathan Fillion isn't a bad shout for once

    by Sigourneys_Beaver

    Alright, he doesn't exactly resemble Jesse, BUT his turn as that mad bastard Preacher in Buffy was spot on. He'd do. Might as well save some money not hiring a massive star too, cause this will tank.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 6:04 a.m. CST

    This has genuinely put me in a sour mood

    by Smack_Teddy

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 6:06 a.m. CST

    would love to see...

    by rich

    ... Clint Eastwood as Saint of Killers, but unfortunately it wont happen.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Eastwood as the Saint!

    by the_knightfall

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 6:28 a.m. CST


    by rich

    ... sam rockwell as cassidy

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 8:28 a.m. CST

    I want to give it a chance but...

    by FieldmanNo.1

    There is something so frustratingly "OK" about Caruso's films. Preacher needs a fucking nutjob in charge who will defend the material and put up a fight. And have the sensitivity to handle the sneakily complex relationship dynamics that 'Preacher' demands.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 9:02 a.m. CST

    The problem with Caruso

    by BlaGyver

    Is that from what I can tell, he always starts out with a pretty cool idea that has potential to be awesome, but he's painfully susceptible to studio influence, and Preacher is the LAST movie that needs the studios doing what they think is right with it.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Best Comic Ever

    by CuervoJones

    It does not need an adaptation.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 9:29 a.m. CST

    smack_teddy, claireredfield

    by Johnno

    Suppose we're watching Michael Bay's Transformers, and right in the middle of moms smoking pot, dogs humping, social network jokes and explosions and megan fox photo shoots, we all of a sudden get an amazing sweeping scene of relevant artistically directed, moving soliloquy by Shia leboueff about American consumerism and love and AI sentience and social commentary on foreign policy... and then we're right back to black smack talking robots and dangling construction balls and flames on Optimus... would anyone be able to suddenly take any of that depth, however intriguing it may be, seriously? That's what Preacher is. If there's anything of worth in there then it is buried under stuff that's PURPOSELY MEANT TO OFFEND!!! That's the entire reason for all the things surrounding Preacher! If I attend a lecture on some dude whose topic may be about criticizing something I believe in or follow or whatever, and amidst any relevant or eye opening criticism he takes time out every now and then to moon the audience of flash his dick, am I supposed to be able to magically continue paying attention? That's precisely what you have in Preacher. You cannot get past the fact that the book's main premise is making things up simply to be edgy and offensive. Then you expect a large segment of the readership who it is going to lengths to piss all over to take note of it and give it kudos for anything it might do right? Hey by all means, read it if that's your thing. But it is exploitative stuff. That's what it was written as and meant to be. You can enjoy it as an exploitative and edgy work. And that's fine as a graphic novel fan. But if you're going to call it a sublime work of artistry and then act all indignant and worrisome about right wing Christian groups getting all upset like as if that's not to be expected, then that tells me your investment in Preacher is for reasons other than simply interest in a comical over the top story. I like my share of wacky things too, including some that take liberties with religion to spin a fascinating yarn, but Preacher is simply trying too hard here, and for me I just can't keep any interest. But don't act all surprised that many people won't dig it. The material itself was written specifically to get such reactions. And guess what? It does! Will wonders never cease...

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST

    i smell an enormous hobofart and its called the Preacher movie

    by larry burbridge

    Good God this will suck.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Well dont take this the wrong way Johhno

    by Smack_Teddy

    but i think your clearly overly-sensitive to such things on a personal level, and this is blinding you from being able to see it as anything more than shock awe and taboo tactics. Go read up on Ennis a little<p> The phrase:<p> "You cannot get past the fact that the book's main premise is making things up simply to be edgy and offensive" <p> Bullshit, total bullshit that completely exposes your naivity and ignorance towards an approach to the subject matter and reason or meaning looked for behind it. Yes you can easily get past that 'fact', because its not really a fact, its a deluded overly subjective point of view you hold. Sorry. You get that reaction from your impression, its like a cat or dog chasing its own tail

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to the pg-13 rating...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Until the ratings system changes Hollywood will never get its balls back. The suits are simply too scared to make adult movies. It's way too easy to water things down and cross your fingers teens will see it. It's pathetic but the ratings system has created this monster. They are obsessed with the rating of movies. Preacher will simply never been done well because Hollywood is scared shitless of parents groups and religious groups who would rather blame movies and Hollywood instead of their horrible parenting for when their kids go fucking or doing drugs. Every once and a while we get a movie that breaks this mold but it's far too rare. Remember when Wolverine was coming out and they told us nerds forever it would be "A rated R action film"... But when it came down to it Fox blinked and made an utter shit fest they knew could be sold to morons and teens.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST

    How about a Blond Mila Kunis for Tulip?

    by Duka

    Sean Bean or Rhys Ifans as Cass Terry O'Quinn as Starr, a good departure from Locke. Ron Perlman with scraggy hair and a bit more weather beaten as The Saint of Killers? Oh and Josh Brolin/Timothy Olypant/Michael Madsen bastard love child as Jesse.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, noon CST


    by schadenfreudian

    the next time someone recommends a trade edition of a comic, maybe you should try checking it out from a library (those are those big buildings where they keep the books) or borrowing it from someone instead of dropping the money. Also, I'd advise you to stay away from Transmetropolitan, The Boys, The Invisibles, Sandman, and Hellblazer books. Well, unless you're looking for more material to post online dissertations about.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Johnno, again, you mostly missed the point

    by BlaGyver

    Not to beat a dead horse, but Preacher isn't about shitting on religion. As odd as it sounds, the blurb on the back of the first volume sums it up pretty well. Preacher isn't about criticizing religion, it's about friendship, love, and redemption. It's about a journey of faith. Honestly, every time I read a volume of it, I come out with the same thought: That was beautiful. I have never and probably never will describe another comic as being beautiful but Preacher. The beginning of the third volume, I believe, has one of very few comic issues that has gotten me misty-eyed. It's the one where Jesse runs into a man that was in the army with Jesse's father and it's absolutely perfect. It's easy to only focus on the graphic aspects of it, and it's certainly one of the things that made the comic famous, but what you wrote is much more on point with some of Mark Millar's works.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 12:39 p.m. CST

    And fantasy casting

    by BlaGyver

    James Marsden as Jesse. I'd say Matthew McConouhay (no idea how to spell that) but the only way he could get a GREAT performance is with a GREAT director. Timothy Olyphant wouldn't be bad either. I like whoever said Terry O'Quinn as Herr Starr. And if they don't cast Collin Farrell as Cassidy, they're just plain stupid. Really is the role of a lifetime for him.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Johnno missed the point but he's still right

    by Koyaanisqatsi

    <p>This is just my opinion and if you'd like to respond please tell me why instead of just disagreeing with me. I'm taking the time to explain myself, so should you. Thanks. </p> <p>Preacher is just not all that great. It's poorly written (in most cases) and laughable. Cass and Tulip are completely useless characters beyond being devices to spell out theme and "narrative" word for word. No one except Jesse comes across as having any kind of real human depth, everyone else are just archetypes and not actual characters. Ennis' attempts at a southern dialect/accent are some of the worst cases of getting it wrong I've ever seen and they get worse as the series goes on. I dare anyone from the south to disagree with me on that front. I'm glad I stuck with it and read the whole thing as there are some interesting ideas every other couple of hundred pages or so but nothing that ever really pans out in an interesting or thought provoking way and I'll never read it again. Or recommend it to people as anything more than a brief diversion between better things. It's not all bad, though. The art for the first graphic novel collection and the backstory for the Saint of Killers is quite spectacular. Also, Blagyver mentions the scene with his dad's army buddy and that one does stand out, but almost everything else rings hollow as soon as you turn the page.</p>

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST


    by Johnno

    Then what is the main driving force behind the book? Is it not to take a religion and twist it such that the events behind this initial premise in it drive the characters? Is it not the spark that sets off the chain of events for everything else to come and follow through? That's the hook! The rest is a subsequence of that. It's simply this. The book's driving premise is divisive. It will gell with some people who are cool with that sort of thing, with others it's too outlandish and grotesquely vulgar in a juvenile way to take anything else about it seriously. So it's exactly as you say. I can't get past that to enjoy anything else it brings to the table. Any good storytelling in there aside from the focus of the main premise could arguable also be done well enough under a different set of circumstances without the trappings of a purposely blasphemous twisted version of religion going onin the background. But like it or not, it's in there, and without it Preacher wouldn't be the Preacher you know and love, and so long as this is the case, then it's hard to get past it and therefore the rest becomes hard to appreciate.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST

    my favorite parts of Preacher

    by oisin5199

    have to be the issues that focus on Cassidy, especially his role in the 1916 uprising in Ireland and his emigration to New York. That not only was beautiful storytelling, it's a loveletter to NYC. I dare you to read those and tell me it's all about being 'edgy.' so I disagree with Johnno, but I get where he's coming from. I believe that Garth Ennis is best when he's somewhat restrained, like the Heartland miniseries that was a spinoff of Hellblazer in Belfast, but not a demon or anything supernatural in sight. It focused on Kit, Constantine's girlfriend, and her family history in Belfast, giving you a day in the life of 90s Northern Ireland and the situation with culture, family, gender, and race. Just a brilliant piece. I don't even think there's that much violence besides a pub brawl. funny that Johnno said he'd rather read Hellblazer - you do know that Ennis wrote that one for a while, right? Not that I have any faith in this adaptation, but you could actually make a good Preacher if you toned down the silly over-the-top violence and focused primarily on the Jesse-Cassidy-Tulip triangle.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 2 p.m. CST


    by Johnno

    You're right. Though unfortunately local libraries around me don't carry much in the way of graphic novels, at least not these ones. I've checked out the other titles you've mentioned. Transmetropolitan, Sandman, Hellblazer. I've got no problems with those, granted I've not read all of them. They do touch upon similar things and aim to twist things in a manner similar to Preacher, well particularly Hellblazer more so than the others, but I feel they're done better, more to my liking. Preacher, in my opinion, aims to be deliberately up in ones face and more unsubtle, which can be offputting. I don't deny that there is some talent here, and I can see why some others see it as being influential because of its overall style and characterization. But I think any acclaim it gets is for things other than its main premise. Although those who've recommend it to me, do so on the basis of its 'amazing story' and specifically because of its take on religion that they see specifically as one of its main appeals. That was the package it was sold to me under, and certainly I expected some liberality in a way I guess similar to say... Spawn. But this just takes the cake, the forks, the napkins, and doesn't do much that I'd even consider that clever in its overall scheme. Now there are certainly some intriguing stories in there. But as a whole I just can't get into it. It's like I'm being constantly reminded that there is an unsubtle attempt there to remind the reader that these stories are being used as an opportunity to throw in some more disparaging images of religious iconography/ beliefs etc. It takes me out of the picture. And when that happens you can't enjoy it any longer.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST


    by OSAMP1

    Should I get the first book or not. Really interested in the series. Is it that good.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    ^series, but is it that good.

    by OSAMP1

    Edit button please.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 2:12 p.m. CST


    by Johnno

    Fair enough, I get where you're coming from. But like I've said before. The trappings and overall scheme of things that makes Preacher what it is is problematic for me to see any of the beauty trapped below the surface. The package its wrapped in is the issue. Maybe I'm being too critical of it, but in all honestly it's hard to make a case that Preacher doesn't go out of its way to shit on religion. It's overall story, it's representations, it's imagery indeed does take religion and present it in a twisted and shocking manner. And that takes a certain amount of passion on the part of its creators and how they feel about religion to get this done. Even if that is arguably not the main point of the book, and I'm sure there are plenty of themes, stories, and sweeping human emotions etc. etc. in there that you and others see; it wouldn't get any sort of acclaim without them otherwise. But the purposely blashemous trappings are intended to be vulgar, and neither are the concepts behind it something grand enough to be interesting. Certainly not all the stories have that in center focus, but I believe that a graphic novel/story whatever should be judged in the overall scheme of things. I don't jump into a TV series in the middle or judge it based on a few episodes and scenes. I'd prefer to watch it from the start and I'll feel a certain way about it based on the story/side-stories in their entirety. That's how I'd recommend things to others. Anyway I think I've said all I need to say here. Apologies to anyone if I implied you're less of a person for liking Preacher. But this ain't for me, and I do believe it gets a bit more credit than it deserves and will appeal to only the most hardcore of graphic novel lovers, but not to the majority of people simply because the premise of Preacher goes out of its way to alienate them. So don't go about saying religious people are the reason Preacher doesn't get enough love, and that's why Hollywood will dumb it down, like it's their fault for not getting on board with it. Of course they woudn't. Preacher itself decided to see to that. And no select moments within it are enough to sanitize it of its chosen decor. You're either dining in that restaurant beause of the style of food it serves or you're gonna go find someplace else that provides the same meat in a more appetizing manner.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST


    by BlaGyver

    Just wanna say that I respect your arguments and the fact that you addressed everyone in a way that didn't make you come across as a dick. Despite this, since we disagree on an internet debate, we clearly can never be friends and you aren't invited to my birthday party.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST


    by schadenfreudian

    Fair enough, man. At least you're giving reasons for why you don't like the book. Frankly, I'm a little put off by your civil tone and politeness. Don't you read these boards? You're supposed to call me a cunt and threaten me in an act of anonymous internet bravado. I'm not sure how to react to this pleasantness.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Arseface should be played by...

    by crazybubba

    Michael dup bup...thank you thank you I'll be here all night.

  • that's it.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 9:45 p.m. CST

    I could not be more disappointed.

    by Chang-A-Lang

    Preacher done right is a fantasy, so I shouldn't be surprised. They should save their money and leave this one alone. We'd all be better off.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 9:51 p.m. CST


    by Chang-A-Lang

    As long as you're not easily offended, it's an awesome ride. Over-the-top in every way. The language is terrible, the violence is even worse, and the story is great.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Before I go...

    by Chang-A-Lang

    Robert Carlyle as Cassidy.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Dont know if you guys heard it yet,

    by deelzbub

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 11:21 p.m. CST

    Nic Cage is playing two roles in GR2

    by deelzbub

    Blaze and a bad demon.

  • Feb. 23, 2011, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Just like Jackie Gleason in Smokey & The Bandit 3

    by deelzbub

  • Feb. 24, 2011, 8:31 a.m. CST

    OK, I must've read it wrong

    by deelzbub

  • Feb. 24, 2011, 8:35 a.m. CST


    by deelzbub

    Cage is playing JB and Zarathos, not a dual role as the villian. That doesn't really count as Jackie Gleason/S&TB3-level insanity.

  • Feb. 24, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Thanks chang-a-bang

    by OSAMP1

    Sounds right up my alley. I am going to order it today.

  • Feb. 24, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST


    by Smack_Teddy

    I would need you to elaborate on or explain further the point or reason that "Cass and Tulip are completely useless characters beyond being devices to spell out theme and "narrative" word for word", before it would be worth responding to properly. In the mean time, As for the lack of depth, i guess i would feel comfortable saying that Preacher does wear its heart on its sleeve on the surface yeah, and in all kinds of ways.

  • Feb. 24, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST

    by Smack_Teddy

    "It will gell with some people who are cool with that sort of thing, with others it's too outlandish and grotesquely vulgar in a juvenile way to take anything else about it seriousl"<p> I guess that might become relative to how others view religion and strict religious scripture/interpretation itself... and Ennis would like to turn this inside out onto the surface with admittedly punkish sensibilities yes, but to display those grotesque qualities you refer to that he sees in this form of religion on the surface, blow them open and explore them in a way Ennis and others find more realistically or truthfully telling as artistic-spiritual interpretation with a true emotion and depth at least of sorts, certainly in the commentary that follows or alternates from the premise and beyond. This is where Jesse, Tulip and Cassidy become vital as characters, even if they are archetypes a bit, in their own right, and in their particular dynamic, and in relation to the events and others around them. Also why Her Star is so over the top in this respect: hes kind of a symbol of those qualities you bring up, grotesquely vulgur in a juvenile way, utterly exploiting and degrading himself and others in his ultimate position of authority as a consequence. <p>This is just one reason why the statement "Any good storytelling in there aside from the focus of the main premise could arguable also be done well enough under a different set of circumstances without the trappings of a purposely blasphemous twisted version of religion going onin the background" is not true, on many levels.

  • Feb. 24, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST


    by Smack_Teddy